The Deep Healing Project
The Wellness Brothers, Dr. Jake and Dr. Nick Hyde, talk about doctor stuff, or brother stuff, or sometimes both. Filled to the brim with humor, practical advice, and rich in-depth conversation, these brothers from opposite sides of the country connect on the topics that they truly love. Centered on holistic health, each podcast goes to the core of physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health and life.
The Deep Healing Project
The Holistic Life Blueprint
Two holistic doctors simplify health by breaking it down into six essential categories that cover everything from what you eat to how you think. We examine how the basics of holistic health can be made accessible and practical for everyday life without getting lost in complexity.
• What we consume: eating real food, reducing processed items, and taking basic supplements like minerals and omega-3s
• How we move: finding sustainable exercise at about 60% effort, prioritizing walking, and strengthening key muscle groups
• Resting as an active process: identifying activities that recharge your personal batteries
• Breathing techniques like 4-7 breathing to reset your nervous system
• Connection with nature, other people, and spiritual dimensions as crucial health components
• Thought quality as a reflection of mental inputs and a determinant of physical wellbeing
Try these simple questions as a framework for assessing your own health: How am I consuming? How am I moving? How am I resting? How am I breathing? How am I connecting? How am I thinking?
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Welcome back the two most holistic brothers on a podcast that's happening today. That I know of my name is Dr Nick Hyde. This is my brother.
Speaker 2:Dr Jake, hello everybody, I'm here. It's good to be here too. Nick, it's good to see you, thanks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know we've been doing this gosh through the years. All of our pods have different vibes because we do it different times of the week. We did a happy hour one for a while Now. This is like a weekend coffee morning chat. We've had that a couple times. I like it. It's like Jake's in my living room with me Feels like it a little bit Would like to hug you.
Speaker 2:I would like to do that. You're too far away, but this will do for now. So, Nick, I had an idea for a podcast today. You want to hear it?
Speaker 1:I'm all ears.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, something that I've noticed over the years, like we touched on this last week but health has been very well complicated due to, like health expert, online, social media, just access to information it's very complex can be anxiety producing. Frankly, you know what I mean and you and I have learned quite a bit through school, becoming doctors, and then through years of being in clinic. However, I'm getting to a place of learning that health practices meaning taking care of yourself, like I'm learning enough to distill it out now to where it's starting to go from incredibly complicated, learning everything that we did into getting kind of simple, everything that we did into getting kind of simple, and so what I want to do today is talk about the basics of a holistic lifestyle. We'll break it down, keep it very simple for everyone listening today. So if you're listening to this, it'll be like all right, I don't really know. There's a lot going on. Maybe I've tried a bazillion things today.
Speaker 2:We're going to try to keep this episode pretty short and snappy. We're just going to go through the basics in different categories. So the categories that I like to do is kind of a it's kind of a riff on dr mortar six essential questions, but I've modified the six to these categories, so we're going to go through these and you and I are just going to discuss simple ways of applying these questions into your life in order to care for yourself more holistically and to create health in your life and in your family's life. So the six categories are what you consume, that's one, so that's like food, drink, vitamins, supplements, poisons. You know the basics. Two is how you move, so that's activity that your body does throughout the day or doesn't do. Three is how you rest. Rest isn't just inactivity, it's an active process. Four is how you breathe. Five is how you connect, so your your social health. And six is how you think done.
Speaker 1:All right, let's do it. I'm following this yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:That's kind of breeze through the two most trendy and obvious ones once people talk about the most as far as health goes exercise and nutrition. So the first one what?
Speaker 1:you consume. We've kind of did. I mean our last episode, I believe, was like all nutrition no, two episodes ago, I don't remember what it was, but we did it recently. Check the podcasts, yeah.
Speaker 2:But we're going to keep it simple. We talked a lot about nutrition. Yeah, we're going gonna do nutrition in like two minutes, and it's not just nutrition, I, I it's like what you consume, okay, so essentially like what becomes part of you, and so, all right, what do you? What's your approach? You want me to go first, you want?
Speaker 1:to think about it a little bit.
Speaker 2:I did spring this on you. Yeah, give me a second, well, nutritionally, we try to eat real food as much as possible, Obviously with littles in the house and a whole lifestyle kind of a thing. I am grateful for frozen chicken nuggets, or as my son calls them, nuggy chickens, I'm grateful I can throw that in the toaster oven. But like, uh, we just try to eat real food, not too concerned about macros. Uh, just real food, a lot of plants, high quality proteins, high quality fats, pretty simple I would agree with that.
Speaker 1:Just looking at it from a basic standpoint, if you had an animal that you were taking care of and you're like I need to make this animal healthy, I mean, this is what happens. I think people can relate with this, but they're like, everything that makes animal healthy is just being as much to its natural self as possible. I mean, this is even why, like, dog food has become it's like a raw trend lately, and because that's healthier for dogs and you'll see it, it's like dogs issues go away when they're on better food for them, right, and it's the same for us, right? So, trying to be as close to natural as possible and that could even mean, you know, overly commercialized food, including organic, can be like overly commercialized.
Speaker 2:Overly processed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, organic food can be quite processed, yeah, yeah, so the food basis of it wasn't sprayed with pesticides, but it could still be kind of, uh, foreign to your body yeah, so, and on that note, um, you know, like, if you had your own small family farm, that would be an understanding of like eat things that you would potentially be able to eat if you were living on that farm, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, keys, I don't stress too much about it, I drink a lot of good water. I like to drink phase four water, structured water, which you can buy an expensive machine we do not, but you can make it on your own, not too difficult. Actually, do you know how? Like mom and dad used to make sun tea, you can do the same. But with water you get not like a plastic jug, like a glass jar container. Put filtered water in the sun for a day. You can add minerals, so like celtic sea salt or something just a pinch minerals are important part of healthy water and leave it in the sun. We can go deeper in that another day. We're not about keeping this complex, but high quality water is very important.
Speaker 1:um, don't have to overdo that one, yeah, and uh, as far as, as far as me, I take a, you know I've done a lot of things over the years. I take a basic multivitamin, multimineral and essential fatty acid every day. I add other things in, but that's just uh, me covering my bases and not overthinking it. What do you? You just on a basic supplement thing yeah, I take an activated b complex.
Speaker 2:Uh, just to get the methylated forms just cover the basis there and I take a lot of. Yeah, I take like complex mineral supplements too. There's one called min checks from standard process that I really love. It's a great mineral source and I do add more natural salts, so I think that's an easy swap too from your basic table salt. If you're adding like a Celtic sea salt or Himalayan salt, you're adding like 70 to 90 more trace minerals into your diet than if you just use table salt Totally. So that's pretty easy. Supplements I do a fatty acid one while I take omega-3 fatty acids. I probably will take vitamin D this winter, but for the most part we're out and about outside so I don't worry too much about getting it. Oh, I do take creatine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, this is again. This is something we could break down. We're breezing over what we do today. These are some. These are some high quality basic things that you can have on a day-to-day basis. Uh, and creatine does help with brain health and hydration and other things, but again, uh, yeah, these are just. You know, I I used to be like very specific and clinical about like everything I was doing supplement wise, and then I just was like I can just go. I put myself on this subscription of a high quality whole food. So I'm doing an optimal health systems has one Cool, yeah, great, it's on subscription, get it every month. My son gets a gummy whole food, vitamin, mineral and great, I'm not gonna think too hard about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my son actually two chewables from standard process. One's like the multi and one's more for immune support. It's called cataplex and conga plex, if you want to look it up, and that's what we take. It's loaded with a bunch of your trace minerals, but also like glandular and organ tissue too.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised he actually likes taking these, but he does yeah, those can taste pretty funny thorn has one too, and that one I don't like the flavor of at all no, this, uh it.
Speaker 2:I mean you're, when it's loaded with minerals. It's not necessarily going to taste good, but he's a picky eater and he eats them, no fight. He actually likes them. So that's the supplements that the boy gets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he probably recognizes its benefit. I mean, he doesn't think about it that way, but his body and his taste buds are like this is good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe Our wife's nutrition maybe is more complex. But we can have an episode about women's health, particularly pregnant moms, which we have, and then post your wife a nursing mom. We can talk about their nutrition on their own episode. That sounds actually a good idea, all right. Second category how are we moving? So that's a question you can ask yourself how am I moving? I'll let you think about this as well, nick. I like to think.
Speaker 2:Well, I just, you know, inactivity is not great, so motion is really good. Walking is the perfect exercise, you know. If you want to like count your steps with some kind of tracker, great, you don't really have to do that, unless you have a particular health goal. Then it's not a bad idea to like see, you know, what am I actually doing day in and day out? Um, and as far as like basics, go moving around. However, you can obviously, if you're unable to walk, find some kind of motion that you can do to keep the body moving. But I also like spinal mobility. Every day seems really good. You can just stand in place, twist your body back and forth, just kind of rotating your spine, putting some motion in there. I think that's like a simple thing most people can physically do. That's like a no brainer Takes no time, it feels great, wakes the body up. What about you?
Speaker 1:yeah, well, I, you know, I think the context can be pretty good. I did, uh I was, very serious into strength training for a very long time, yeah, and then also high intensity interval training. That stuff is real stressful on on me these days. I've actually found that when I train really hard in that way, um, at some point my I'm having hormonal issues pretty much. So I like to stay in a like 60 effort place of training and then I could do it every day. So I do something every day that stays in that 60%, meaning it's really not too hard, it's not stressing my body out and it's kind of playful and fun.
Speaker 1:But I try to change it up every day, but that's been a big deal for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've done that too. Right now I'm in three days a week, I'll do resistance training. So I've done that too. Right now I'm in, uh, three days a week I'll do resistance training, so I will move something that's heavy, I'll pick it up, push it around and it's probably like 30 minute sessions that are just well-designed for efficiency. Hit all the major muscle groups challenge them, but that's a lot, you know, and some of these muscle groups that only get challenged once a week and that actually has been giving me really good results at my ripe old age of 40. Whereas, like I feel like when I was doing CrossFit five days a week which I love doing, that I wasn't necessarily like building muscle, like tangible muscle that you can feel on your body. Doing CrossFit five days a week, like I am just resistance training for 90 minutes a week, yeah, but it's different seasons of life, for sure totally, totally yeah, and I did.
Speaker 1:You know, like I said, I did the strength training thing and there's some really good strength training programs out there. I actually believe everyone should be working towards being stronger. It's very, very good for health overall. Um stronger is better that would be. Yeah, I mean, they even showed that just to like people who were had more muscle mass had less covid, yeah and uh, yeah, yeah, but that's another conversation. I would work, you know glutes gotta be strong.
Speaker 2:There's like one thing to get strong get your glutes strong, not for like vanity reasons, just for stability reasons. Protects your low back, keeps you mobile as you age, keeps you very functional.
Speaker 1:Glutes are big time glutes and, like I would say, shoulders, back muscles, very important yeah, a shout out to brandon brock who's like a super genius functional neurology person and like now on like the board of texas uh, state of texas's board, yeah, well, for for health and specifically childhood development or something cool, a cool title, really smart guy. But he said a good thing to look at when managing people long term always make sure they can get up and make themselves a sandwich.
Speaker 2:Well, interesting, like for an aging population, a really good predictive test for longevity is can you go from a seated position to a standing position unassisted? So that means can you like get out of a chair without having to grab something or hold on to something? If you could do that, that's.
Speaker 1:that's actually one of the best predictors for longevity, like quality of life moving forward yeah, and so if you're not even in that place of like I have to worry about that, get yourself as strong as possible, because then when you get there like it will pay dividends you know, Totally, but anyways next. Motion.
Speaker 2:But anything that's fun, just move. So I should say like it's how you're moving. The question is also like how are you not moving? Are you very stationary? Do you have to sit at a desk or a chair for a very long time, or in your car for a long time throughout the day? That's fine. Just try to find as much balance asactivity. It's like turning off your cell phone. Turning off your cell phone does not recharge the batteries, right. So for the human, we need to find ways to plug back into a source of energy.
Speaker 2:So resting isn't just a lack of activity, it's actually directed activity. I would say Directed activity, I would say so you can rest doing something that might be stressful to others. I was talking to one of my clients about that and one of his hobbies is mountain biking. That's very stressful for most people, but for him, because he's very competent at it, that's kind of when he gets into a flow state that's very restful for him, that recharges his batteries, even though it would be quite stressful to me. It's like some people. He gets into a flow state that's very restful for him, that recharges his batteries, even though it'd be quite stressful to me. It's like some people, cooking's a chore Other people. Cooking can be a resting practice if it's part of your creative outlet throughout your week. So resting doesn't just mean not doing anything. It doesn't just mean like churning your brain, your conscious awake mind, off at night when you go to bed.
Speaker 1:It's your brain, you know your, your conscious awake mind off at night, when you go to bed, it's about recharging the batteries. So what do you do, nick? Well, I do, actually probably my biggest practice. I will right now. The two keys I'm focusing in on if I have, I do qigong and prayer time in the morning nice and that's like it's a strong qi builder for my whole day.
Speaker 1:You know, it's all about life force and, like you said, like rest to me is about how much life force do I have? Right, that's the way I think about it, right?
Speaker 2:like you're talking about you know, charging the batteries, plugging back in yeah, source of like, what powers you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and yeah, and prayer time can do that, I think, a lot of times people's prayer times if they're, you know, doing something like that, or meditation, it really depends on what you're thinking on. But we'll get to thinking later. But what I would say to add to that is, again like Jake is saying, plugging into source. If you're doing a prayer time that doesn't feel like you're connecting to source or connecting to God, then that's something that could be majorly tweaked and have huge benefits. So likeitative prayer, um, is like that. So, anyways, yeah, that that.
Speaker 2:So a lot of these activities you do in your day can fall into one or more of these categories, these questions so like how am I resting and how am I connecting, which is like the fifth question. There's overlap there, for sure, because real good connection does charge your batteries, uh, and so if it's like a spiritual connection thing, that certainly can be a resting practice often is for a lot of people. Yeah, uh, resting, yeah, meditation, prayer, creative outlets so when you're really starting to feel creative, that can be a big time rest for you throughout your day. Even walking can be restful, so that's also activity. But it can be restful. Like I get up very early to beat my family awake so I can go walk for 30 minutes and I'll usually listen to something that I don't know primes me up, so it's not just like a pump me up kind of listen to thing. It's like david hawkins recordings of his old lectures or like one of his books on tape.
Speaker 1:That'll do um well, yeah and just to add to that, you we already talked about the movement and exercise, but I call it like therapeutic walking there's a point of walking where, all of a sudden, there's like a therapy that's been done on you. Yeah, and it's different for different people on different days, you know, but I think it's something to be aware of. Everyone has that feeling where, like, they've been on a walk and and at some point it's like, wow, their cares and worries are like taken care of or something, and they just feel better for having walked. You know, it's people that might not be an obvious thing for some people, but it's.
Speaker 2:it's something to work on and and get in touch with yeah, just walking, that cross crawl movement that you do and walking can also reset your nervous system, like your fight or flight switches. I'm stuck in the on position. A good 20, 30 minute walk maybe even less for some people can reset that. It can put you back into a rest and digest mode out of fight or flight, just simply by going for like a 15-minute walk. Good stuff, all right.
Speaker 2:Fourth question how am I breathing? A lot of us don't think too much about breathing because we'll do it all on our own, which I'm grateful for. However, we do know if we stop breathing that's a bad thing. We we don't necessarily think if I breathe better, that could be a big life enhancer for me. Yeah, so I used to do that, and this is in grad school.
Speaker 2:Mostly I would schedule in like it would pop up on my phone to take a one minute breathing break. So just like pop up and I'd be like, oh yeah, and then I'd do like a minute of intentional breaths. That's not a bad idea. If you need, if you're having a hard time making that part of your daily routine is like, just put it in your phone. Your phone will pop up and say take a breathing break and then you just do a minute of foldy breaths. There's a lot of different strategies we can maybe just share, like our favorite breathing techniques that you can do that are quite simple to do. You can do it in your car, you could do it in the shower, you could do it I don't know just at your desk.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of ways to do it. Yeah, I do want. I saw the potential of it clinically, you know, and I have so much to say about it now. Yeah, because I've been really working clinically on it. There's a lot to say about breath. I will say it's a, it's an ongoing project. For every single person who comes in my office now is I want to fix their breathing, you know, not their like. You know, we'll get into conscious breath in just a second. These, these like uh, breathing exercises, but your subconscious breathing, the breathing that you do 99.9 percent of the time. That's something I want to get to, because there's some exercises and some tests that I've been workshopping for the last three or four years.
Speaker 1:I'd love to do an episode on that. Honestly huge payouts. A lot of people's pain is just breathing.
Speaker 2:related honestly huge payouts a lot of people's pain is just breathing related. Yeah, or that book. Yeah, that book made the connection of like breathing and heart disease and stuff like that like an immune system and yeah, everything. So one of the takeaways from that book was, like one of the best things you can do for your kids is to make sure they're breathing through their nose. Basically, don't let your kid be a mouth breather. That's a huge gift you can give them Because it happens. Some kids just naturally do that, but there's things you can do about that so they don't have to live their life as a mouth breather, because that's going to set them up for some health complications for sure, according to that book anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally, some health complications for sure, according to that book anyway. Yeah, totally yeah. And people don't really realize that there's a lot of fascia that connects even in your mouth to your heart and to your lungs and so even just like tongue position can have a effect on people's like heart health. This is really cool stuff. But uh, again, this is kind of a teaser because I think it would be nice to say about like our conscious exercises that maybe we do to help us with breathing the simplest one that I like that has clinically proven to be helpful for things like anxiety, for example, is four, seven breathing.
Speaker 2:You breathe in for four seconds, you take four seconds to entirely fill your lungs, pause, exhale for seven seconds. Counting also seems to be part of the benefit too. Just for mindfulness, counting has this weird effect of making you more present from a nervous system standpoint. So, breathe in for four, pause, breathe out for seven. I think that's interesting because I used to always do four square breathing or rhythmic breathing, where you breathe in for four, pause for four, breathe out for four, pause for four, and that's really great too. I just think of counting to four every time my, like the mind wanders, whereas when you go four to seven, like you stay more focused. That's my experience anyway what about you?
Speaker 1:yeah, well, no, I exactly that. I mean, the research done on that is really profound and basically the key is having a longer exhale makes you more parasympathetic, which is that rest and digest. Really. There's like homes of research about that at this point. Yeah, so it's really really easy thing. Obviously. Come totally free, totally in your power. I'm a big fan of that, I also do, I do the, I do the wim hof, breathing sometimes a little more intense but tell us about it yeah, and it can be more involved.
Speaker 1:And there's lots of people on like, if you're kind of curious and you've never tried it, I would go look up just a breathing like do it with a person online. There's like a lot of youtube channels devoted to wim hof breathing. You can do it with wim hof. You could do it with wim hof. I actually wouldn't do it with wim hof. Uh, you know, sometimes the best teachers are not the primary person who starts something, but the people who've been around them kind of understand it in a more human way like translators.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's like the great minds, and then there's like the translators yeah, I mean I wouldn't say don't do it with wim hof, I'm just saying, if you want to learn it, you know, just kind of look around and um, because I did it, I thought I was doing it wim hof's uh, breathing, well, and then you know, over the years it's like I've gone to a different person just on youtube and I'm like, oh, and now I think I get it a little bit more.
Speaker 1:But the basics of it is you do very intense, full breaths, very quickly, and then you keep doing it for, you know, up to a minute, and then you completely exhale and you hold your breath for basically as long as you comfortably can, and that's a round, and you could do as many rounds as you want. And the recovery breath is then you, after you've done that you've you've been holding your breath out, then you take a deep breath and you hold your breath in. That's a full round. So I'll do that like maybe four or five rounds. Granted, I'm not doing this every day, but maybe I'll do it once or twice a week for four or five minutes.
Speaker 2:I'm sure there's people listening, like Nick. Aren't you hyperventilating? Are you becoming hypoxic?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, yeah, that is what you're doing.
Speaker 2:I know we could talk about the science of that on our We'll Do Breathing episode, all right. The next one is how am I connecting? All right, and this has for me. This is like social behaviors is a big part of this. Do I feel connected to people who actually know me, the real me, not some projected egoic me that I put out into the world, really me, and do I feel accepted by them and I can be vulnerable, like that's really important. And then there's also the connection, like I think connection to nature is really important to you, like being out in the elements, under the trees, in the dirt, under the sun, like getting connected to that which you are, which is nature. You are part of nature.
Speaker 2:We've removed ourselves from that, I think, actually by definition I forget which dictionary, I think it's Webster's it's like the definition of nature is anything that exists outside of what humans do or are, and I think it's as opposed to what humans make or are. So it's not even like different from us. It's like in opposition. It's us versus nature now, which is a big mistake, I think. And then there's spiritual connection as well. So we talked about that in our resting practices. But that's a big part of feeling connected, and feeling connected is incredibly important to our health.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Can't underestimate or undervalue that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Obviously, grounding is in this category and that's a huge part of my week especially. It was like this. This week was like a week in clinic, you know, and a lot of. There's a lot, just a lot of things going on with people, you know. There's deaths and people getting bad diagnoses and all kinds of stuff coming in. Um crisis, lots of crisis. At a week like that, you know, friday, when I get off work, I put my feet in the ground for two hours just playing. You know, it's easy because I have kids and they'll just be outside in the grass or whatever that's. That's enormously powerful for me. It's like after the two hours I'm like week's gone. Man, the earth transmuted that static in my life, but um, yeah, we uh, you know we don't live in santa cruz.
Speaker 1:Two hours in our backyard would be two hours worth of mosquito bites, so we're more of like the 15 minute type people but every weekend we do get out into a hike and there's like really great rivers and creeks where we get our feet in for a good extended period of time fantastic, um, and then I just wanted to add on that note there, that, uh, you know we're both married people and I think you know marriage deserves its own episode in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1:But connecting in a long-term relationship is super fruitful and that's why we get involved in it in the first place. But over time, it's really easy for wedges and rifts to like, start to build up and accumulate, especially with kids, oh yeah, so that's a great area of focus constantly to check in and be like how can we connect deeper and what strategy do we need at this phase of our life that helps us to really feel connected and loved by one another? So fruitful? Just the little things like that because it's probably going to be for most people who, who, who've entered into marriage probably will be the most meaningful relationship of your whole life and therefore also, uh, can be the most fruitful, um, also your primary relationship, which is you having to deal with yourself all the time.
Speaker 2:Like you want that to work. You want that to be a functional relationship too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, which I think that's that weighs well into, into how we think yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so that's the sixth question you can ask yourself is like how am I thinking? That's hard to do in real time, because we're probably aware of something like maybe 5% of our thoughts throughout the day. But I can also take an inventory and I know this is true, like if I'm exhausted at the end of the day or the end of a week, I can already know now, because I have enough data, that my thoughts have been low quality. Especially if I'm frustrated easily or annoyed easily, it's like my thoughts have been garbage and now my output. So it's like my inputs have been kind of low level and junky and now my output is also junky. It's like, you know, garbage in, garbage out kind of a scenario.
Speaker 2:So I also know like, all right, if I'm easily frustrated or short with people, it's like I haven't been thinking about the right things. I haven't been thinking about the right things. I've been focused on the right ideas. So that also comes back to what am I consuming we didn't talk about in that. But it's also like the things that you're putting in your head as far as entertainment goes in a large part becomes your thoughts. So keep that in mind, the input to your mind, what you're feeding your brain, will be reflected in your thought quality too. So if you're getting a lot of mental junk food all day long, uh, your thought quality is going to be junky for sure yeah, yeah, that's another thing, just as a parent, you know, parents are pretty aware of that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:They're like I'm not going to let my kid watch that, or do you know, whatever, right, but like we don't do that for ourselves in meaningful ways. Um, so that's a really good point there, jake. And uh, to add on top of that, you know, just positivity in general. I think that people think that their negativity is serving them really well. They're buying into this idea that like, well, you know, you know, all the pessimists out there think that they're just, they're truthful, right, they're like, yeah, I'm not living in some, you know, uh, you know living in the clouds, so to speak.
Speaker 2:Right, that they're they don't want to look like the fool.
Speaker 1:Fundamentally, that's a really good point, yeah, but they buy into like, well, it's because I'm so anxious that I, you know, make these good decisions for myself and whatever. But that's not really true, like you don't need to be anxious to make good decisions and it's just really like you don't need to be anxious to get insurance or something right. You could just be like that's a good idea right now for us. So you know, and they think that they're living in a truthful world, but they're just, they're still in a perspective, they're still loaded with opinion is what they are.
Speaker 1:And they have no experience of, you know, living in higher consciousness levels that always feel blissful and happier and they feel, you know. So that's just their, that's their reality and they're really opting. That's just their, that's their reality and they're really opting into it and that's okay. But it comes at a cost. So you know, positivity the cost of positivity is is lots of benefit in the body, right?
Speaker 2:so, yeah, well, it's an ego illusion that tries to tell you, like me, being fearful, worried and anxious is going to help us survive better. And that's just a new, an illusion of the ego. Um, and it might have been true to some degree as a kid, when you didn't have that much experience or life wisdom, and it's like, oh no, I need to like be aware of all the potential threats in my life. Maybe we could talk about that, maybe there's some value then. But as an adult, your fear is not making you safer yeah, cool uh, this is fun.
Speaker 2:We just kind of got to fly over some of these big ideas. But it's something you guys can do is just think about these six questions, take an inventory how am I doing these six things? And, uh, don't have to make it too complicated.
Speaker 1:You know, health isn't health's pretty simple yeah, and we'll try to get some of these more in depth very soon. So if you're like man, that one, that one, I feel like really resonated with me great yeah, we'll make them very complicated for you in future podcasts, but uh, just for fun.
Speaker 2:But anyway, nick, fun, quick podcast. I know you got to go, so all right, love to you all.
Speaker 1:Thanks jake for bringing the heat and uh look forward to next time. Yeah, love you guys. Bye.