The Deep Healing Project
The Wellness Brothers, Dr. Jake and Dr. Nick Hyde, talk about doctor stuff, or brother stuff, or sometimes both. Filled to the brim with humor, practical advice, and rich in-depth conversation, these brothers from opposite sides of the country connect on the topics that they truly love. Centered on holistic health, each podcast goes to the core of physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health and life.
The Deep Healing Project
What If Nothing Is Wrong With You?
The Hyde brothers explore how beliefs shape our health and how to update harmful ones that may be sabotaging our wellbeing.
• Beliefs powerfully influence health outcomes through placebo and nocebo effects
• The medical model's authority often limits our belief in the body's capacity to heal
• Jake shares how he healed "bone-on-bone" hip degeneration by rejecting limiting beliefs
• Core false beliefs like "something's wrong with me" create self-sabotage through subconscious programming
• Recognize beliefs as opinions rather than truth to loosen their grip
• Process underlying emotions to release limiting beliefs
• Use affirmations as destinations to navigate toward, not as instant magical fixes
• Setting intentions attracts both opportunities and necessary healing lessons
We can work with anyone anywhere in the world on updating beliefs and healing. Check the links in our show notes to contact us with questions or to work with us directly.
Welcome back to the Deep Healing Project. I'm Dr Nick Hyde. This is my brother, dr Jake Hyde. Hello everybody. So we are off to a nice Friday morning. We always like to bring the Friday feels, even though you guys are not listening to it. Maybe you are on Friday, I don't know. But yeah, we're two brothers. We're really trying to do this deep healing project thing. That's obviously why we called it that way, and we would also love to earn your subscription, so in all these channels that you might be watching us from, subscribing, liking all those things can be very helpful for our algorithms. We're not some huge company and doing, you know, a lot of support in the background no support for us.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, and speaking of, we kind of had a couple of questions come from the ethers here, and well, one was really on belief. You know we talk about belief a lot and the power of belief on your health and your life, and I thought it's a good idea to talk about it, not from square one, and you know we've had lots of episodes about belief, I'm pretty sure. So today I'd like to focus it on the specific kind of question. I get in clinic, some rendition of this which is basically how do I update my beliefs that are hurting me or working against me? And I think that's an excellent conversation, because we know that beliefs are powerful. We know the placebo effect, the nocebo effect, but the rubber hitting the road, how do we actually change them and switch them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I want to back up a little bit because I'm not sure everyone has heard of the nocebo effect. Because it doesn't get as much credit as placebo because placebo is always tested in medications and things right. So you test a med against the placebo it turns out placebos are pretty good too. Because it doesn't get as much credit as placebo because placebo is always tested in medications and things right. So you test a med against the placebo, it turns out placebos are pretty good too. Because in every drug trial, placebo is somewhat effective to very effective in treating whatever thing they're testing, which is interesting.
Speaker 2:I've also seen some data indicating the placebo in this last decade has gotten stronger, if you will, meaning placebos are now performing better than they have in the past, which I think is interesting. Now, if a placebo is this idea of like a belief around a positive outcome or experience, you're more likely to have it. The nocebo would be the inverse If you're believing in a negative outcome or negative experience, you're more likely to have one, and I think the nocebo, from what I understand, is even stronger than the placebo effect is, meaning you can really sabotage yourself into a negative experience or outcome by believing it's going to happen.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about some examples of beliefs that we come across, that we find important to update.
Speaker 2:So maybe you have an audio one. You want to take turns on false beliefs, sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a great idea. So one. I find I guess this is a general one, but you could make it more specific. It's basically believing in the medical model being the authority on health. Okay, so what would that look like? More specifics, it might be like I have knee pain and, you know, say it's somebody later on in life and they're like I have knee pain, you know I'm going to need to get a knee replacement, and it's like why will you need that? You know that's the question. They're operating on some belief and some premise that that's like that is the model. It's like at some point you get old enough and you run out of options and then you just need the knee replaced.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like having an automobile.
Speaker 1:It's like.
Speaker 2:I've got 250,000 miles on this bad boy. It's time to change out. The suspension Needs a new gearbox, whatever it is. It's like there's enough miles on this thing, it's time to get a new one. And that is not how the body works. The body's alive. Yeah, it's self-repairing, self-updating. You do have, on a cellular level, a brand new knee, depending on who you ask, but let's just say, every year and a half to three years you have a brand new knee on a cellular level. Every cell's been replaced.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So on a practical level, if you do want to heal and feel better in your knee, you need to update that kind of a belief on a practical level. If you do want to heal and feel better in your knee, you need to update that kind of a belief on a practical level, because it's like if I have this thing working against me, any of these therapies I do, I'm not going to believe in why? Because I think that the only way for me to move forward in my life is this knee surgery. So, practically speaking, you have to be like I'm open to the possibility that something else will help me as a practical thing. But if you really want to, if you really want to heal and you want to do it fast, you have to wrap your head around the idea that your knee you have to start bringing in these positive ideas that Jake just said. Like your knee is self-healing, self-repairing, that until you're dead, your knee has a chance to completely heal.
Speaker 2:Can I share a personal story? Oh yeah, I don't know if this has ever come up on the pod. Actually, no, it hasn't, because the second half of this story happened during our hiatus of five years.
Speaker 1:All right, so we got something fresh yeah.
Speaker 2:So when we were in school we had to learn how to do x-rays and imaging and things like that. Right, this is true, Nick and I didn't go to the same schools, True? So who did we x-ray? Each other? So essentially a full body x-rays through school and we were doing like a AP, like front to back pelvis shot for myself, and I remember the professor. We were like looking at it and the professor was just walking through the laboratory and looked over my shoulder and like that's a future hip replacement Looking at my x-ray oh my god.
Speaker 1:And I was like how dare you? Because of course you were already like on the best train at that point.
Speaker 2:So, like that technique that is already very holistic and has a really positive understanding of yeah, best, I was already starting to study, uh best, bioenergetic synchronization technique and I was already reading some books um offered to me by our mentor, dr phillips, who was like I think at that time I was reading biology of belief for the second time, and so I was like, just because all the medical textbooks say this is in fact a future hip replacement, I'm not buying into it. And it's true, though, it was bone on bone and I actually wasn't that surprised because my right hip had been hurting me since my last year of college basketball. Uh, my injuries, my ailments uh forced me into an early basketball retirement and it was hard to name, like, what part of my body hurt the most at the time. But my right hip was a thing and it did. It did have symptoms of osteoarthritis. In hindsight like, um, we don't have to get into that. But yeah, when I saw it, I oh, that actually kind of makes sense. But future hip replacement I did not believe, and I knew there's a lot of different things to work on. Like people will want to say, like what's the one thing you did to fix it? And it's like probably wasn't one thing. So something I did do was improve my functional movement. I had some movement patterns issues that certainly contributed to how many injuries I had playing basketball. So I cleaned up some of my movement, particularly like hip hinge and squat, and I also just worked on like core health beliefs about not just medicine, like you're saying, but just my own worth and value, what I deserve in life.
Speaker 2:Anyway, years go by, I don't really think about it. My hip actually every year is better and better feeling. So don't really think about my hip actually every year better and better feeling. So I never really think about it. But I had like a water skiing or like a wakeboarding accident and I'm like I think I might have, I might have broken a rib.
Speaker 2:So I was in my buddy's office who has an x-ray machine, just take a look. And I was like, hey, I want, I want to take a look at this right hip, just curious. So at this point it would have been see, I was probably 28 when I got the first x-ray and at this point I was probably 36, 36, so eight years have gone by didn't really think about it. But I'm like, let me see, I'll take an x-ray and it's a perfectly healthy hip. And I was like, am I imagining this. So I remember I tried to save a bunch of my x-rays and just to my email, just so I can reference back to him. And I looked and I found that ap pelvis and it was like, yeah, that was bone on bone. And now I'm looking at it again and it's perfectly healthy. Yep, this all checks out.
Speaker 1:Yep, nick's not surprised at all, yeah, but thank you for that Really awesome Real story. Yeah, real life. So we were going to go back and forth with beliefs here. Jake, is there something that comes up for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is another general one. It's what we would call in our technique a core false belief, meaning it's very common, a lot of people have this, but it's interesting to talk about. So it's the false belief that there's something wrong with me.
Speaker 1:Let that sink in yeah.
Speaker 2:Nick's nodding his head, he's chewing on it. So very common false belief. And it's easy to think because these core false beliefs, the idea is they typically download pre-memory like really early on in life and it makes sense. You can imagine being a little kid, like knocking over your parents, drink off the coffee table, just horsing around and then be like Nick, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1:And as a kid you're like well, clearly something you know or even like the first boo-boo you ever get and you're like, whoa, that happens yeah exactly there's something wrong with me.
Speaker 2:Or even like the first boo-boo you ever get and you're like whoa, that can happen. Yeah, exactly there's something wrong with me. It's easy to kind of let that one start to develop internally. One of the big issues with a core false belief is Nick probably knows the answer to this but it's these false beliefs that then ultimately lead to self-sabotaging in your life. Right, how does it do that? Well, turns out, and this is connected to the placebo effect. I'm kind of referencing Joe Dispenza's research on this. But your subconscious would rather alter your reality than learn a new core belief. So if you're holding on to this idea of there's something wrong with me, your subconscious, which is making approximately 95% of your choices for you, like 95% of your decisions throughout the day you're not actually consciously aware of your subconscious will rig the game to validate that core belief. And so when you're not paying attention, you'll find yourself in situations where your ego, your subconscious, could say see, we told you something wrong with us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Hawkins says that your ego would rather you walk off a cliff and die than be proved wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to prove it right, it'll walk you right off a cliff, just to be right. Apologies, though.
Speaker 1:On the way down.
Speaker 2:We said this was going to happen, so let's talk about working on like updating a belief like this one.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you're ready for the, for the practical here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so say you can identify with. All right, I probably do believe there's something wrong with me. Let's just change some perspective, cause the first thing to update a core false belief is can you recognize the belief when it's or the program that's called these beliefs programs? Can you recognize the program when it's, like activated? And if you do, you recognize that there is something that is potentially not you that you could let go of?
Speaker 1:Yeah and I'll. I want to step in for this, because the reason why it could be so hard to recognize it is because you don't look at it as a belief. You think about it as truth.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you're not like this is the belief. This is the way life is.
Speaker 2:But I have all this data in my history that proves this is the way life is, and it's like it's not data. It's not any data that proves the way this the way life is.
Speaker 1:It's data that indicates you've held this false belief for a long time it's still an opinion and and I like that term of it because it's like when you start to think about opinions, especially when opinions go wrong or sour for you in your life, you're like why am I holding this opinion? But beliefs can be pretty dogmatic. People will go into a religious war over their beliefs. But yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love how Hawkins kind of helps you become less attached to your opinions. It's by thinking of them less of this is my opinion into. This is an opinion I currently like or an opinion I currently agree with. It's a way of thinking about your opinions. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because, I'm open to my mind being changed here. And also, if someone says that opinion's dumb, you're like oh, maybe it is. But when we're like this is my opinion, someone's like that's stupid. You're like how dare you call me stupid? And it's like no, they were just critiquing the opinion, they weren't critiquing you. But we identify so much with our thoughts and our opinions that we take offense so easily.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So on that note, because we already brought it up general advice to getting rid of, you know, limiting beliefs, or programs as we're calling them. Don't think so highly of your own thoughts, don't find them, they're not that important thoughts.
Speaker 2:Don't find them, don't? They're not that important. No, no, most of your thoughts are just relics of your past experiences. Anyway, they're not even have nothing to do with you. All, right? Yeah, so here I am. There's something wrong with me. Can I recognize that? That is a program that I'm experiencing right now and maybe can I just shift the perspective? Can maybe I think like maybe there actually isn't anything wrong with me. Maybe I'm just not fully developed, fully actualized as a person. Maybe I'm just in my growth, which is very easily like, rationally connected to. It's very easy to get there.
Speaker 2:It's like, think about it like this, nick, if you and I and say our families are together and we're baking, we're making a cake, got the ingredients out, mixed together, put it in the oven, took it out five minutes later, we're like something's wrong with this cake. Does it look like cake? Something's wrong with this? It's like nothing's wrong with it, just it's not done cooking. You know, judge it for where it's at in its process. We don't give ourselves the same grace, do we? It's like I'm not done cooking. I don't know about you, nick, I'm not done.
Speaker 2:But if I were to evaluate myself as a cake right now, I'd be like no'm there's. This is not right, but if you evaluate it on like where you are at and a process, it makes sense. Like hawkins likes to use the analogy of a flower, I think we probably talked about this for sure in past episodes. But this idea of unfolding the perfection within, like a flower is perfectly being a flower when it's a seed or when it's a little bud pushing through the dirt, when it's halfway bloomed, when it's fully bloomed, it's always perfectly being a flower, just at whatever stage of its growth it's at. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:So that's everything. Everything in creation is in a process of development, whether it's a flower or a person, or a mountain range or a galaxy, nothing poofs into existence like fully actualized. So you and I, we have to go through this process. Well. So it's very easy to make an assessment there's something wrong with me. But if you hold that belief to be true, you will sabotage yourself to have experiences to validate that belief. But if you start to see yourself as a flower unfolding, it's in its process, meaning you can become compassionate towards yourself as you're having these difficult experiences, or compassionate towards yourself as you're having these, quote unquote we'll call them poor choices. Right, where it would be easy to be like, yep, something's wrong with me, it's like, nope, I'm in my process of growth, I'm learning from all these things, I'm unfolding the perfection within. Just you know, don't take it out of the oven. Let it keep going, let it keep cooking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know about you, jake, but when I first started to approach the whole like I want to update my belief game, I was into affirmations and I do have positive things to say about that, but I don't find that those are like the quickest solution and I think that some people would have to. So what's an affirmation? Sometimes people find a belief that they're like you know, it's like there's something wrong with me. Well, what's the positive way of framing it? You know, I'm it, I'm unfolding, I'm perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm perfect the way I am.
Speaker 1:I'm perfect at this stage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm in my unfolding of perfection, so I'm in my becoming, because I'm perfect just the way I am. While that, like in an ideal sense, might be true, the reality is you're not who you could be yet you haven't reached your potential. So there's work to be done still.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I never found that the affirmation was a great way for going about it with me. So the way I coach people through it, generally speaking now, so if they're having this kind of a belief, I have them. I mean, what do we always talk about? The letting go process I have them come to the understanding that a belief is a thought paired with a feeling and when we start processing the underlying feelings behind that belief, they just start to disappear. They're not held so tightly and dogmatically so, for instance, like there's something wrong with me.
Speaker 1:Well, the feeling behind that is probably having to do with shame, guilt, apathy. It's this feeling of like unworthiness, however you might want to frame it. And, as you're listening to this, if one of these listeners has this, you know, maybe false belief about themselves, they might start resonating with one of those words. Right, you know it's like a feeling of unworthiness and you can just do a whole life pattern update. You know it's like you go back all the times of your life, all the places, all the situations, the circumstances, the people that made you feel unworthy, the people that made you feel unworthy. I would retrace that as much as you can. Go into those places and those situations and think about those people, the time that you felt very unworthy, and just realize that that was just a feeling. So going into this evidence stacking up against me to say that this belief is true. But once you drain the feelings behind that evidence, it doesn't really matter so much anymore. So it's like you drain that swamp of emotion and then all of a sudden, it's much easier to say do I want to opt into this way of thinking anymore, or am I ready for the next phase of my life? Can I turn the chapter and start believing something that is better for me, that's more nutritious and nourishing for my true self to emerge? Yeah, yes, I think it's not too hard after that. So that would be my step number one and then my step number two, and then Jake could chime in with all of his thoughts and what he does.
Speaker 1:My step number two would be like okay, now how can you lovingly create the reality that you do want If you could choose from a whole library of options of like what do I really want for my life? Of options of like what do I really want for my life? What do I want in place of that belief? What do I want to run. You have to create that reality yourself. It doesn't accidentally happen. Usually for the positive. It's like I don't, you know, accidentally trip over something and have something, absolutely, you know, just astoundingly amazing happen in my life. It doesn't always happen that way. It can certainly, but you know we have to create it. You have to opt in and choose it.
Speaker 2:You can have a good fortune, good things can happen all on their own Totally, but yeah, that's not you and your creative process of creating your own story, your own life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and choosing into the positive beliefs might not be in the common current of the family, the friends, the church, the school or whatever people you have around you, and that's okay. You don't have to. You can be an individual and be an independent thinker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, can I give a quick? I just want to say something about affirmations. Let me endorse affirmations here for a second, because, I agree, not everyone really works with them. But think about an affirmation. Think of it as like not a magic spell. It's like a destination that you're setting for yourself. So if you're setting for yourself, so if you're working with an affirmation and it totally lands, you're totally connected to it. You probably don't need it. So if the affirmation is like ooh, I don't know if this feels really true for me, then it's like yeah, that's why you need it, because you're trying to update your beliefs, so you're reinforcing it with this truth. That's difficult for you. So it is like a destination for me.
Speaker 2:If you have an affirmation, it's because I want to be in a place in the future where this is true for me, right? So like a money affirmation someone might use I've used this one in the past. It's like money comes to me in miraculous ways. Okay, my ego, my subconscious, my beliefs might be like I don't know. I think I have to earn every cent that I get. I think I have to know how I'm getting the money. I have to have plans, I have to have things in order and it's like no, I'm working on. Money comes to me miraculous ways, and so when I say that it's like putting in a destination on my GPS or like my maps app on my phone, it's like I'm setting a destination to where I want to arrive. Yeah, and so much like my baking analogy.
Speaker 2:It's like I'm setting a destination to where I want to arrive. Yeah, and so much like my baking analogy. It's like, if you put, it's like all right, meeting friends at this restaurant, I don't know where it is, putting in my phone and pulling out of the driveway, and it's like you saying, not there, yet this isn't working. It's like no, you set a destination and so what you do with the affirmation, and what you try to do is you try to tune yourself to the feeling state of that affirmation, like what would it be like if I really felt this was true? Money comes to me miraculously. What would that feeling be?
Speaker 2:And as you tune yourself to that feeling state and then you go about your day, the things that are moving you in the direction of that being true feel more right to you.
Speaker 2:So it's like all right, I'm at a fork in the road in my day, I can go right or left. That choice is going to be more natural to go towards. Potentially, money comes to me in miraculous ways, versus the old programming that says what feels right to me is what is known or comfortable, which is I have to earn every penny that I get. Does that make sense? And so, as you're making these little micro decisions throughout the day. And so, as you're making these little micro decisions throughout the day, what's going to feel right to you is what feels normal typically, if you're just going subconsciously through your day and so you're going to reinforce these old beliefs and you are going to have to work hard for every penny, but if you're tuning yourself to the feeling, what's going to happen over time is those little micro decisions, things that feel like the right choice to you are going to be more aligned with that affirmation you're working on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that's just on a very psychological level, but it's also like in a spiritual way. Like you know, anytime we have an intention. So we're talking about setting the gps right, the things I'm also attracting into my life, the lessons I need to learn for that to be true as well. So it's like you know, if, for instance, I pick, health comes easily to me, right? Okay, this is a good affirmation for a lot of people, health comes easily to me, or like really good health, vibrant, vitalistic, whatever you want to say, health comes easily to me. And I start saying that every day. The objections, if you will, might start coming up.
Speaker 1:And this is probably why some people give up on affirmations, because you know, in the first couple weeks, couple months of them doing whatever affirmation, they might be like ooh, this is hard, it's not doing anything, I just feel worse. It's like well, you're, like you are cleaning up all the dunk that's between you and that thing, and and your highest self, your guardian angels, god, whoever you want to think about it this way is bringing the opportunities for you to heal and make that more true. So anytime we set an intention, it's really powerful. It's really powerful and affirmations are intentions and, and you know, if you're like setting a gps, you want to go see the redwoods and uh, you look outside and then you're in the desert. You know it could be like this isn't working, but it might be 12 hour drive. You know, yeah, you got to be able to have the endurance to, and then, and then, as you go, you're like, oh, it's starting to look more like that as time goes by totally exactly.
Speaker 2:You don't have to be concerned necessarily with the 12 hours. It's it's okay to keep in mind like this is a journey, this take time. I could be patient with this process, but really you have to be concerned with, like, the next direction and it's like it says up here. I have to exit at this place up in seven miles, and that's what you really need to put your energy towards. It's like what's the next direction?
Speaker 1:yes, thank you for sharing all that great wisdom. Jake, think this is a good time to put a cap on it. Please, though. You know we could talk about beliefs for a very long time, and you might have some excellent questions we would love to know and bring on the air. So, if you do, please reach out to us below. There's something that you could see us with, you know, in the show notes, whatever, and anything else before we wrap up, jake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, check the links in the show notes, or maybe you're seeing a YouTube clip or whatever. Either way, there'll be avenues of being able to contact Nick and I with just questions, or even if you want to do this work for yourself, reach out to us. We can work with anyone anywhere in the world, so don't be shy.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, peace out, everybody, love you guys. Later, brother, See you.