Divorce at Altitude: A Podcast on Colorado Family Law
Divorce at Altitude: A Podcast on Colorado Family Law
Managing Youth Sports in Co-Parenting: Tips to Avoid Sports-Related Disagreements | Episode 238
This week, Ryan and co-host Amy Goscha explore how youth sports intersect with co-parenting and divorce. From intense schedules to rising costs, sports can offer structure and joy—or spark serious conflict between separated parents. Whether your child is just starting out or already in competitive leagues, this episode helps parents navigate decisions with clarity and focus on the child’s best interests.
🔹 Episode Highlights
Why Youth Sports Matter
• How sports build resilience, discipline, and identity—especially during divorce
• The mental and physical benefits for kids navigating change
The Pressure on Parents
• Specialization, private coaching, and travel teams: where do you draw the line?
• Why the ride home might be hurting your child’s love of the game
Co-Parenting Conflicts
• Disputes over coaching, gear, scheduling, and attendance
• When one parent is all-in and the other isn’t—how to avoid loyalty traps
Legal Planning for Sports
• Including gear exchanges, coaching roles, and attendance rules in parenting plans
• Why “Unified Sports Philosophy” clauses may prevent future battles
🔹 Key Takeaways
• Sports can be a stabilizing force for kids during divorce—when managed mindfully
• The focus should stay on the child’s development and enjoyment, not parental agendas
• Clear communication and legal planning can minimize conflict
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Welcome to Divorce At Altittude, a podcast on Colorado family law. I'm Ryan Kalamaya. Each week, along with my business partner and co-host, Amy Goscha, or an expert, we discuss a particular topic related to Divorce or co-parenting in Colorado. In addition, we have created a short series of lessons that will take you through the legal process of Divorce and answer your questions from simple to complex. Divorce isn't easy. The end of a marriage, especially when children are involved, brings a great deal of loss and change. We hope these practical tips and insights will help you on your journey to a new. And better life. Welcome back to another episode of Divorce Altittude. This is Ryan Kalamaya, your co-host. This week I am joined as usual by my esteemed co-host, Amy. What's on the table for today's episode, Amy?
Amy Goscha:We're talking about youth sports. As a parent, I think we all feel pressure to make sure that we're giving our kids every opportunity. So I think this will be a good one. And it definitely becomes an issue that parents that are divorced or separated, need to navigate.
Ryan Kalamaya:Intense is what immediately comes to mind in for me with U Sports. I love sports. I think I've mentioned on the episode or the podcast before various sports references. I grew up in Longmont and I played so many different sports. I also went on to play division one baseball at University of Virginia, which was. A huge goal of mine. Growing up, I was really focused. I was really into it. But even now as a parent of two kids 11 and nine, I have been blown away, Amy, at how intense youth sports has become. It has completely changed since I was growing up. I don't know what your take is with your son.
Amy Goscha:Absolutely. I think it's just started a lot earlier and seasons spanned year round. For me growing up I was a competitive dancer. I danced five days a week. I went to la so it was pretty intense. I also played the piano, had lessons at 6:30 AM every week. So I did a lot, but I, it's not anywhere near what kids do now.
Ryan Kalamaya:Yeah, I've read, I've gotten really into it just'cause my son has started doing some competitive, like travel sports at the age of nine. This past fall I would drive down to Denver. You, you know this Amy. For him to do a lacrosse practice. So it was three and a half to four hours. We'd stay in a hotel and he would go to practice at Cherry Creek at high school on Sunday morning, and then we would drive back. It was completely and utterly insane. So I have done a lot of soul searching and, but I also have thought a lot about how this implicates. The cases that we work on when, for example, Eric and Melanie Wolf, when they're going through a divorce how much a parent's and child's definition. And I certainly related to this. When I hung up the cleats, who I defined or how I define myself really changed. It's something I've written about on my bio. When parents. Define themselves and get into it to the level I see it is earth shattering when they go through a divorce.
Amy Goscha:Yeah. And I think that these days a lot of families, even within my son's school, like they go to sports camps, it becomes like a family event. Like one whole family, they all play lacrosse. They go for two weeks and it's an intense camp. But you also raise a good point because you're in Aspen. I'm in Denver. You also see the extra layer of intensity because of like the distance and like where you're located. In Colorado we have a lot of people that, live in Vail, live in Aspen live in other rural areas. So I think that also increases the intensity.
Ryan Kalamaya:It does. Let's first talk about what the benefits of youth's sports are, just so we can lay some groundwork. And then we will also talk about in terms of kind of stages and other things for people to think about. And so really for me, when I think about sports, why I am such a advocate, I coach. Some of my kids' sports and we will talk a little bit about coaching and how that can cause some friction. But really for me, I love the ability of sports to have children. Fail. They mess up, they lose, they strike out. And they do it in a safe environment. I think so many of us, especially, Amy, I am sure it's the same for you, but like I used to just be able to run out my door and just go for hours. My mom would be like, don't come home until basically it was dark and. Kids can't just, things have changed. And so things are very comfortable. We I will admit, the first is we just wanna make our kids comfortable. We can give them so many, different comforts and alleviate pressure points, but that di that kind of adversity is something that later on in life really is a skill that they're gonna have to. D deal with, and so they learn resilience. They are frustrated. They have to recover, and they really learn the commitment of, devoting yourself to a team, the work ethic showing up and being part of something bigger. And the conflicts when you're in a stressful environment and your teammate doesn't, kicks the ball and doesn't score the goal, and, or you maybe that. That teammate, how do you really deal with that? But the honoring the obligations and really dealing with those issues is something that I think is really important. What other kind of benefits, Amy, can you think of for youth sports?
Amy Goscha:I think just leadership and just like you, you mentioned, and some of those life skills. I think just some of the life skills that you can translate into your adult life. I take. Some of the discipline of having to practice piano, for an hour every day. I think that really helped me, like in math and in just, like discipline in schedule. So I think it just helps kids, develop, like more so than just, academics in school.
Ryan Kalamaya:Yeah. The other benefits, I think they are worth mentioning is just the physical activity and the mental health, the movement, the stress relief, the kind of, we are have a sedentary, it's there. There is an obesity. Crisis in the United States. Getting out ki having kids physically active is good for them. And, the kind of draw to screens and video games and tho those kind of issues, especially with, the kind of addiction or other issues that could be referenced with social media and other components for children. I think is incredibly helpful. The other aspect is the relationships that people develop in sports and the sense of community. And I think that is really important when a kid is, has parents that are going through a divorce the sports that gives them kind of the teammates and the coaches they have a kind of a sense of belonging. It's also a release valve. And we'll talk about some of maybe the downsides that kind of relate to that kind of community and the pressure and whatnot that parents can have a tendency to engage in when it comes to youth sports and that can actually compound the stress that they're going through with a divorce, but, on its face. The ability for a kid to walk out on to a, a court or a playing field. How many times, Amy, have you heard a story where a, a football player or a basketball player fill in the blank sport? They've had something tragic happen to their li in their life. They lose their dad, they lose their mom. Something happens. And the next day they go out and play. And it's because, or like September 11th, how important that was for people to really gather around, but it was like a sense of escape and relief that I think is really important for people to understand when it comes to youth sports.
Amy Goscha:Yeah. And I think in the divorce context, the positive is that from the kids' perspective. Like the outlet of like better endorphins, like it leads to better sleep. We all know when our kids come home, like they need this hour of they can't just jump right into homework. Like having that hour of practice like really can help them, refocus. And then also from a parent perspective, like parents, if you're in a married situation, like you see your kids usually every day. When you're divorced, you don't, it can be touch points like for parents to still connect with, kids. So that can be the positive side, and I know we'll talk about some of the challenges, that it also can be, but that can be also, a positive a positive outcome.
Ryan Kalamaya:Some of my fondest memories with my dad and my parents are still married. But just the relationship that I have with my dad, he was, he loves baseball and we can go out and like just play catch or go do a baseball game and we can talk about history. So it's something, it's a connect. Point for, many parents, but as you mentioned, that can come with some challenges. But turning the page and, talking a little bit about different topic and that's to really highlight that there are these different developmental ages and what kind of age groups we're talking about I think is really important. When we talk. When we think about youth sports, so you know, Amy, you have a son who is younger than my 11-year-old daughter. And you know how what they are engaging in terms of sports, I think is important for people to understand. And so really from the ages of six to 12, you can define that as the sampling, era where they're playing everything, they're doing soccer, and then they go to basketball and then, they're doing all these different kinds of sports and they might drop in and out of, those sports to really figure out what, what's gonna connect with them and dance or some other kind of physical activity like that. Gymnastics certainly is within this kind of realm. But they should be really experimenting and having fun. The thing that has just completely blown my mind is the level of specialization and how early that push has been. I don't know about you Amy, but like that has changed so much since I was nine years old, like my son is. I
Amy Goscha:mean, I played on a soccer like club soccer team, when I was young, but now at age, like my son is seven, they're already split up into the developmental league where you like hire coaches and then the recreational league where you still have parent volunteer coaches. So it's definitely earlier. And the other change I'm seeing, and I'm sure you do with your kids, is that it's not just, soccer. Traditionally, when you think of it, at least for boys. I think it's played in the fall, but now it's. Fall, spring, summer, like year round.
Ryan Kalamaya:Yeah. I think that it's fair to say that we are developing better athletes at the age of 12. I think the verdict is still out as to whether we are developing better athletes at the age of, 18. And like Greg Olson, he's a commentator for Fox Sports, for the NFL and he was a Pro Bowl tight end. He has a podcast Youth Inc. That I've listened to, listened to frequently. There's. Pure athlete who is a former baseball player, major league baseball player, and they really rail against this whole system. And but the reality is that there is this culture and there is this, my son played lacrosse against these nine year olds and one team was from Oklahoma. The, another team was just purely Denver. These kids do not ski in the winter. All they do is at least my observation is that they play. They play lacrosse and I can speak from experience. I've really poured everything I had into baseball, but I did, so when I got to like high school, I played soccer and football and so many different sports, tennis, swimming, you name it I played it. I experienced burnout, and I think that there's a real risk now when you pour thousands of dollars and you have your personal trainers and you're going all over the place, all over the country for your 10-year-old, what's gonna happen when. At the age of 11, they're like, I'm done. And I think that there is certainly something to be said for kind of ha continuing to encourage kids to sample. But it is a thing and I think that's something that we'll put a pin in because we'll come back to those situations. When in the context of a divorce,'cause that can be a real point of contention, is when you're talking about the travel baseball or travel stick sport, whatever, fill in the blank sport. I, I, hockey, skiing, whatever it is, and one parent's on board and the other is not. Or what that means for Eric and Melanie Wolfe when they're going through a divorce.
Amy Goscha:I think the other thing is that I've noticed, and I don't know if you have with your kids is that like Hunter did not like soccer to begin with, but then he wanted to keep playing because his friends are playing. And then he just, it just clicked for him recently where he really liked it. So I think that sampling is super important. And not to just check it off the list just because quote unquote, your kid isn't into it, or isn't quote unquote good because they. Might be, they might have a moment where it just clicks. So
Ryan Kalamaya:Indeed I think continuing on in terms of that trajectory and the developmental if theoretically or optimally, ages 12 to 14 they're two to three sports that start emerging. Emerging, but they're still playing, for example, football in the fall and then they might. Do basketball in the winter and then they do baseball or lacrosse in, in, in the spring. But they're really still at the age of 12 to 14. Talking about different sports. There's gonna be some pressure and there are certainly programs that they require year-round commitment. My, my son, the travel baseball team they're asking him to play fall baseball. I I played baseball in college and I played fall baseball in my junior year of high school. And it was like. I was really on the forefront of that kind of, and now it's like a common thing these year round sports, but I, at least for me, my personal opinion is that kids should still be playing different sports. If I was a sports star and you asked me what should you change about youth sports? It's that, they should be playing different sports in different seasons, giving him, a break. I think Wing Gretzky is famous for saying, the best thing for him, one of the greatest hockey players of all time was putting, putting up his skates, in, in the summer and just not like taking a break. But that is, and we'll get into kind of the parent. Pressure next, but really after the age of 14, I think that's the true kind of specialization if there's a desire and there's talent and not because one parent's pushing it, but there are circumstances. We certainly see it in the mountains with like skiing. That is obviously a big thing. It's really expensive. We'll get into kind of some of the kind of competing. Affiliated issues with that. That 14 a, age group that really is where kind of the specialization begins,
Amy Goscha:right? Yeah. Let's turn now to what you said, Ryan, about parent pressure. What are you noticing, as a parent having kids in sports, but also, how does that translate into divorcing parents?
Ryan Kalamaya:I think the parent pressure, and I've certainly been guilty of it, where, you know you feel like you gotta push your kid and like they, you're getting nervous before games and it's really a question of, is this about you or is it about him or her? And, I think that. People, that parental guilt that the sports industrial complex is preying on is real. And everyone wants to give their kid the kind of advantage. So it's buying the gear, it's the private coaching, it's getting on the best teams. And a lot of that is driven by parents. I have seen parents yell and scream at their kids and it's it's awful. It's, I cannot. Believe the level of intensity that some of these parents exhibit the social media, the ability or rather the pressure of like college. College is really expensive and so a lot of people have identified this is a path for, Johnny to get into Harvard. And the reality is that parents, I think the statistics are, I saw something about how. If you asked, a parent, if their kid was talent worthy of kind of a college scholarship, something like 35% of parents say yes, that they think their kid is good enough to play in college, but the statistics are something south of 5%. It's it's, and so that disconnect I think is getting even worse. But then you combine that with the pressure of how much. College costs where they, everyone thinks that, okay, I can spend, this money and it's worth it'cause my kid's gonna eventually get a scholarship. And one of my good friends who I went to high school with, his daughter in California just recently got a scholarship. And I was like, that's great man. Like you guys made it. That's awesome. And he's yeah, but I spent$30,000 a year on beach volleyball for all the coaching and the travel and. Like I would've been better off just saving that money and just putting it in a 5 29 plan now. He would agree. Yeah, I don't regret it at all. He said because of the experiences and that time and that the skills and all of that. But from a financial calculus, it's, I think people are crazy to invest in that. And that's coming from someone where. I convinced my parents, I constructed a batting cage at my house, and I did it along the driveway and I pitched my parents and I built it. And I said, you should do this. You should invest in this equipment because I'll go and sell it, but it's gonna make it more likely for me to get into a college and get a scholarship. And I did, but. I think that's an exceptional, circumstance and I think that really, that was in high school when I was able to make that pitch.
Amy Goscha:Yeah. I think, the pressure, I also think from, like I'm a divorced parent. I mean that everyone knows that, or most people do, but I think that one thing that I have learned is that. Not to just assume that just because the other parent wants to have, Johnny play. Basketball that it's only because maybe that parent, played basketball. So I think it's like coming from a place of benefit of the doubt or giving someone the benefit of the doubt and not from a place of they're only doing this because that's what they want instead of what the child wants. I think that's really important when you're thinking about sports and dealing with that, as a divorced parent.
Ryan Kalamaya:Yeah. The, let's talk about the, what the issues are with the divorce and youth sports. Amy, talk to me a little bit about, not, and not, it doesn't have to be necessarily from your own experience, but what you observe in, for example, representing Eric and Melanie in terms of competing households. Like how does that kind of play out when you're dealing with a child in youth sports?
Amy Goscha:Yeah, I think it's scheduling. So we know we're looking at parenting time and how regular parenting time is allocated between the parents. And if Johnny is playing lacrosse, like lacrosse practice, if you're the parent who's the coach and it's the other side, they can, like determine when the practices are. Or games might be. Like on certain weekends or there might be a tournament over one parent's weekend. So really planning ahead of time and putting it in the parenting plan, like how that is determined. Like we were talking about in our other episode, on, making those decisions and reaching agreements and ahead of time. And having a dispute resolution mechanism is super, important. And also carving out. Most parenting plans will say parents can go to, like major activities and sporting events for the children. How has that impacted, is it clear in the plan? Is Johnny gonna feel in the middle? Because as parents have, like they're very contentious and so just the fact of them both being present, at a practice or a game does that. Impact the child. So it's all those kinda little nuanced things as the lawyer that you need to figure out and you need to make sure that it's addressed in the parenting plan to make sure that, it's dealt with and it doesn't cause conflict.
Ryan Kalamaya:Yeah. One thing that, in terms of the intensity that I've observed is parents, it's like regular for parents to attend practice. And Abby Wambach, who was on the us women's, national soccer team, she was recently, I think it was on Good Morning America, and she went. Off in terms of, that kids should be able to go to practice and not have their parents as spectators. She, her message was, let the kids breathe, let them play without an audience and let them fail without adult eyes. And now, and it has been, it's, and that it's all over the place in terms of parents will, like the Cherry Creek practice that I mentioned for lacrosse for my son. People pull up their lawn chairs and they're watching. And it was a little bit weird for me because I didn't have anywhere else to go. I had driven down there and there's definitely, at least in Aspen, a social dynamic where parents are talking, but then it becomes an issue of does Eric go to the practices? And then Melanie doesn't because she might be persona, not grata, she might not be comfortable there. But then Eric tells his son. I go to your practices and the loyalty kind of bidding of Eric is the one that buys the new brand new baseball glove and all the equipment. And he takes I remember I had a circumstance where, you know a wealthy father, he knew his kids were into soccer, and so it was during my client's parenting time and, it was like there was a professional soccer game and he said, Hey, I got tickets. I know it's your mom's parenting time, but I got tickets to this really cool soccer game. What do you think the kid's gonna say? And it's those sorts of loyalty bidding that I think that is can play out in sports. But the parents, one parent could be, we talked about in our other episode on summer camps is that the parenting styles. One parent could be at practice and they could be in the coach's ear trying to get, more playing time and this and that and critical of this. And, that, that player. And it's one of those things that when I was growing up, I, there was one guy on my team in football that his dad came to practice and he would sit in the bleachers and we would make fun of him. It was weird the games. Okay, but the practices, and so what you mentioned Amy, is like in parenting plans is often we'll say both parents can attend a game. Okay? There's a performance at school or some big event. Both parents should be able to go there. And they should be able, if they cannot, respectfully sit next to each other. I see, there's a divorced couple on my daughter's lacrosse team, and they're great. They've gone through divorce, but they co-parent like they can be there next to each other. It's fantastic. And I had, there's another situation where, you know both parents have new significant others and they go and they're cheering them on and the kids got four. Cheerleaders instead of two, and it's fantastic. But there's also the situations where they're arguing. They have the one parent is making comments about the other on the sidelines and it can cause conflict. And so go to your kids' practices or go to your kids' games. But you need to be able to it's about the kid. It's not about like the parenting exchange or some other kind of beef or something else. That's not the CI circumstance in which you have an argument and then you've got the kind of dynamic of one parent needs to take the other, the kid during their parenting time to that practice. And I don't know about you Amy, but frequently I see where one parent is not as engaged. They're not as committed. They don't. Feel the same passion of youth sports as maybe me, and they don't take the kid and they, then there's this conflict where there's always a stomach ache or there's something always that happens and that can cause so much. Conflict. And so it's a matter of showing up, being on time and doing that and having that kind of addressed in a parenting plan in terms of who's attending practice and, who's attending games and what are the kind of res expected conduct, in, in different situations. As much as it should just be common sense. I
Amy Goscha:think that there's like really prudent lawyers, and I know that we do this, like really putting detail in the parenting plan. Like thinking about, the exchange of gear. Like you don't want kids to have to haul their. Household to school. So how are you gonna, exchange the gear or are you gonna have two sets of gears, like just, walk, working through that? Or if people some people communicate on a parenting app and we have information or a communication provision that says, you're not to communicate except for an emergency. What it, how does that communication work if one parent is. The coach, and they're sending emails out to the entire team, so it's like the, just those kind of little nuanced things. But I also think that, one thing I've started thinking about in some of my cases is. Maybe not only having my client hire like a parenting coach, but for there to be like this joint parenting coach that's not just like a parenting coordinator that could work through and make sure that the dialogue is positive, so parents can move forward. You.
Ryan Kalamaya:Yeah. And I think that when the parent, when the coach is, when a parent is a coach, so I will often coach my son's teams and it's one of those things where, you know, that I've seen that in other cases where the parent is the coach. So then even though it's Melanie's parenting time, she's dropping off, Johnny at soccer practice and it's her time, but he's spending it with. Eric and then Eric feels invested. He's got control over the schedule. He's got this inside kind of the relationship with the, the teammates. And it's just one of those things that, and logistically doesn't make more sense for Eric to take Johnny to practice because. He's going there anyways. But then that kind of creates this power dynamic that is can be fundamentally unfair. And oftentimes in those circumstance the parent. Is the coach is gonna feel more invested undoubtedly in that sport compared to the other. But then they can also use it as a leverage point. So there can be allegations of gatekeeping, there can be favoritism, claims, scheduling, manipulate, manipulation undermining the other parent. And so judges, I think it's safe to say. Hate that dynamic. So people need to be really thoughtful. Does it make sense for a parent to step down as a coach to mitigate some of those concerns? And it's really keeping the focus on the kids. So anything else, Amy, that you think might be helpful for parents going through a Divorce?
Amy Goscha:I think one thing that we consider, like in our parenting plan is maybe alternating who is the tiebreaker, like on those types of decisions. That can help. You can say Melanie can make decisions related to, sports in the fall and Eric can in the spring or something like that. It does get problematic because of how it's, year round now, but at least. Like it does, a decision is made and a kid can participate and they're not missing and they're not being left out.
Ryan Kalamaya:I can speak from experience in terms of not going through a Divorce, but I think it's helpful for parents to have kind of a mission statement or do some kind of real thought into what are they trying to get. Out of what's the point of youth sports for their family and to really, I think, and we haven't done it, but I, in a parenting plan, it's implicit, but I am going to consider when I deal with kind of a family where this kind of is really at issue is to try to develop a unified sports philosophy. And it could be something where both parents, they really think about are we trying to. L are we trying to really reinforce the benefits of U Sports and putting the kid at the very forefront in terms of their development and listening to them and stepping back? Or are we trying to get them into college? Like what's the. Goal here, like what are they trying to get? And then from there, the cost limits, the number of sports, the communication expectations, the practice responsibilities, the travel decisions that kind of falls into place. But I think parents could really benefit. By having that joint kind of mission statement of what are the values? Because from there, at least when it comes to sports, the other decisions can start becoming a little bit more easy. And if there's a dispute, then the judge or the arbitrator or somebody else can really hone, really make a, an informed decision as to what. Is the right kind of path forward. But I think the kind of closing thing is I think that people should consider giving their kids a little bit more space. I certainly have tried to do this myself. Don't go to practices. I've stopped going to practices. I drop'em off and, I try to be supportive. But and they shouldn't weaponize or guilt the other parent who doesn't. Do that. Try not to micromanage. One thing that I've seen in the feedback is that kids, they stop playing sports because it becomes, it's not fun anymore. And it's not fun in large part because of that ride home. You ask every kid why they don't find sports to be fun anymore, and it's that ride. It's the, Hey, you did this and you did that. And I absolutely am guilty of doing that, and I don't do that anymore. I like, Hey I love watching you play, buddy. And I really have tried to improve on that because I want my kids to enjoy it. And when we put pressure, it's counterproductive. There's relationships between. Parents and kids, they can really be undermined because of the sports,'cause the parent just takes it so intensely. But I think that especially in the divorce, let sports be the kids' outlet. Let's not be the parents' arena. It's not about you, it's not about me, it's not about parents. It's about, allowing them just to like really have fun. And that's especially important, win. The children are involved in the Divorce. Anything else you wanna add to that, Amy?
Amy Goscha:Yeah, I really like that the mantra that comes to mind to me is like the, it's the journey, not the destination, and so that's so true.
Ryan Kalamaya:It is indeed. And it's something I've really tried to embrace'cause Greg Olson, the kind of the podcast and commentator he talks a lot about just improving, forever. And that's something that I think that I've really tried to embrace of like encouraging effort and just improvement and, if your kid strikes out or if they miss the soccer ball, just, be the positive force there to, Hey, you gave it your best. I saw you kick really hard. And one thing, a story I'll just kinda leave people with is kids say that their favorite fans are always the grandparents. And this story was like, the grandparent, the grandma said, to this kid, and this kid was telling, he's but. But grandma struck out like three times and the grandma was like, yeah, but you swung so hard. And I think, and people can probably hear, I'm getting like, choked up. It's that's so true. And so like when you are stressed as a parent and your kid, you're going through a divorce instead of brow beating the kid because they struck out three times. And I struck out three times, like really think about leave your issues with your spouse on the sidelines and like literally leave it there and really just be there for kids because I know everyone when they're going through a divorce, people have difference of opinions and but they love their kids. It just shows up in different ways. But I hope one thing that people take away from this episode is let your kids just enjoy sports, especially when you're going through a divorce.
Amy Goscha:Yeah, I agree.
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