Back in 2018, we released our third podcast episode all about bedtime and sleep. This episode is an updated version of that episode - Sleep 2.0! Get ready for a discussion on WHY many children struggle to get a good night’s sleep as well as our fav tips, tricks, and strategies to help the entire family feel successful with bedtime.
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Back in 2018, we released our third podcast episode all about bedtime and sleep. This episode is an updated version of that episode - Sleep 2.0! Get ready for a discussion on WHY many children struggle to get a good night’s sleep as well as our fav tips, tricks, and strategies to help the entire family feel successful with bedtime.
This podcast is brought to you by Harkla. Our mission at Harkla is to help those with special needs live happy and healthy lives. We accomplish this through high-quality sensory products, child development courses, and The Harkla Sensory Club.
Podcast listeners get 10% off their first order at Harkla with the discount code "sensory". Head to Harkla.co/sensory to start shopping now.
Welcome to the sensory project show with Rachel and Jessica. We're here to share all things sensory, occupational therapy, parenting, self care and overall health and wellness from the therapists perspective, providing raw, honest, fun ideas and strategies for parents and families to implement into daily life. Thank you so much for joining us. Before we jump into today's episode, we have got to talk about a company that we recently discovered, Harkla. Not only do they make high quality, sensory products and supplements, but the owners are also local to us in Boise.
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Jessica:Okay, let's start today's episode.
Rachel:Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the sensory project show. This is episode 137. I am Rachel.
Jessica:And I'm Jessica. And today we are going to be doing an episode, well we're going to redo an episode that we did way back in 2018. Episode number three, we did on sleep and so today we are giving you sleep 2.0.
Rachel:Yes and the reason why we decided to do this episode again, is just because it was such, it's it's a topic that we get asked about frequently. And you know, we were rookies back then. We have some new ideas. We have some new suggestions. So we figured we just put it all together into a new episode, and direct people to this one, if you're having a hard time getting your child to sleep.
Jessica:And that's a question that we get all the time not only online, but also in treatment at the clinic that we work at. Where we get these questions all the time of my child's not sleeping, my child's not following the bedtime routine, or my child wakes up constantly in the middle of the night, and it can be really, really hard because then no one in the house is getting sleep. So everybody is cranky.
Rachel:Exactly. So let's just start by talking about how we all know that reduced sleep quality in children is associated with a lot of things. So a couple of them, you know, reduced scores in school related cognitive tasks.
Jessica:Definitely challenges with emotional regulation and attention.
Rachel:And they also might struggle with short term memory and challenges with attention. Which that's a significant problem when you are in the school and you're trying to do well and make good grades. If you haven't slept good, then you're not going to be able to remember your homework. You're not going to remember, be able to remember the instructions. You're not going to be able to stay focused. So these are big issues that sleep impacts.
Jessica:And I mean, if you think about yourself as an adult, and what happens when you don't get enough sleep. I know that when I don't get enough sleep, I crash like halfway through the day. It makes me not want to work out. It makes me not want to eat well. I'm just I'm a crank, you know, I have no patience.
Rachel:Oh, yeah, I am so grumpy when I don't get it necessarily. It's terrible.
Jessica:We all are, right? If we're grumpy when we don't get enough sleep, then we can only expect that our children are also going to struggle when they don't get enough sleep. In addition to our children, who have sensory processing challenges or maybe a diagnosis of autism, and they can't maybe they can't even tell us how they're feeling or why and they just have no idea why their body feels weird.
Rachel:Well, and that's why one of my favorite things to do is empathize. You know, if you know your child isn't sleeping and you know they had a rough night, instead of being short with them and being frustrated and getting upset, just remember how you feel when you don't sleep and just step one, empathize and take a step back.
Jessica:Totally. Let's talk about some of the reasons why our kids struggle to get enough sleep. And the first thing that came to my mind was in 2021 so many of our kids are doing online school. I know my kid is doing online school and I tell you what, since he started online school last fall in 2020, I have noticed that he struggles a lot more to get to sleep. It takes him longer to fall asleep at night when he's been on a screen for a couple of hours during the day. When normally he wouldn't have been if he had been in a classroom.
Rachel:Oh interesting!
Jessica:It's been rough. I don't like it.
Rachel:Do you notice that it's only on the days that he's been on the screen more or just overall?
Jessica:Overall man. Even on days when, like on the weekends or when we have like a break, which, on the weekends and on a break, we're not getting to bed as early right. We're staying up a little bit later. But he's still it's I think it definitely affects every day.
Rachel:Interesting. Yeah. That's crazy to see it firsthand in your child.
Jessica:Yeah, I don't like it.
Rachel:Wow. Okay. So yes, 2021, 2020. It's been crazy, everyone's on screens more. In addition to that. We have to focus on the disorganized sensory system, because so many of the kiddos, not only that we've worked with that, you know, parents, if you're listening, your child probably has a disorganized sensory system. I feel like this is more common than people realize and they just don't know that it's a disorganized sensory system causing these challenges. So the first thing, the sensory system could be seeking too much, the arousal level could be too high, or it could be too low. So that's the first thing to keep in mind.
Jessica:And again, this goes back to screen time, where if your child is on a screen for several hours a day, their body's not getting enough movement, enough physical activity, to help organize that sensory system, you know. Our bodies are made to move, and especially kids learn through movement and so if they're sitting down the majority of their day, come bedtime, their sensory system is going to be so disorganized.
Rachel:I know that if I spend a weekend, you know, working or sitting down, relaxing, you know, quarantining, you can't leave, you know, if I noticed that when I'm not as active, I struggle to get to sleep and that should be step one for these kiddos. If your kiddo is not sleeping, it's probably because their sensory system isn't organized, and they need more movement. Because movement, proprioceptive input, those two things help significantly.
Jessica:Yeah. And you know, if you look at your bedtime routine, if you've got a pretty consistent bedtime routine with your kiddo, and they're still struggling, then we might need to go back and change the bedtime routine. Because maybe the bedtime routine that you're doing, maybe you need to change the bedtime routine to fit your child's sensory system better. Maybe the input they're receiving during the bedtime routine just isn't right for their body, you know. Everybody's so different. So you might need to tweak it a little bit.
Rachel:Or maybe it worked for them at one point, and they've grown, they've changed or sensory needs have changed, and they need a different routine. So I think, you know, finding a routine that fits their body and their style, rather than your lifestyle is imperative to look at. Sorry, guys.
Jessica:Sorry, not sorry.
Rachel:Yeah.
Jessica:Yeah, totally. And, you know, thinking about their sensory system, you know, maybe they need more proprioceptive input before bed. Maybe they need a longer time period to wind down before sleeping. So you maybe you need to extend the bedtime routine by 20 or 30 minutes and, yeah, that might mean changing your own personal routine a little bit. But in the end, it could be worth it.
Rachel:Yeah. And we're gonna talk about some more modifications to the bedtime routine here later on. But we definitely want to talk about the interoceptive system. So recognizing what's going on inside of the body and these children who struggle with that, they might not be able to either verbalize, that they're hungry or thirsty, or they have to go to the bathroom or maybe they so maybe they can't verbalize that. But also, maybe they don't realize that and they don't know that they're hungry, because they struggle with that interoceptive processing. But they're just laying there awake, or they're crying because something feels off. They just can't tell you. I'm hungry, or I'm thirsty, or I have to poop, you know?
Jessica:Yeah, totally. Or maybe they're constipated, and so their stomach hurts, and that's going to keep them awake all night.
Rachel:In addition, some kids might not understand the bedtime routine, they might not realize they might not get that cue that it's time to wind down and go to bed. So this is where our visual learners come into play and we should use visual strategies like a visual timer or a visual schedule or a chart. Some sort of transition item for bedtime.
Jessica:Yeah, and these kiddos who can't process auditory information, this can cause a lot of anxiety. If they are getting a lot of auditory input a lot of auditory cues for bedtime routine and they don't they can't process it and so it causes them to become anxious and maybe it causes some negative behaviors, and then your whole bedtime routine is thrown off.
Rachel:Like we said earlier talking about bedtime routines, if you maybe have an inconsistent bedtime routine, I know I have a very inconsistent bedtime routine, it is something that I'm working on. But, you know, it's it's challenging for these kiddos who thrive with routine. If you know, one night you go to bed at 8pm and the next night, it's 10pm. And, you know, even if the child isn't going to bed, right, when you put them in bed, you know, having that consistency, so they can have that, that time to wind down and relax and decompress. That will make a big difference as well.
Jessica:And we realize that life happens.
Rachel:No, we don't. We're robots. What are you talking about?
Jessica:The same all the time. You know, some nights might be more chaotic than others. But if you can get the majority of your evenings to a consistent routine, it really does make a huge difference for your kiddo and for you in the long run as well.
Rachel:Yeah, definitely. Another thing to look at is changing the bedroom scenery or the bedroom material. So here we are putting our sensory goggles on and you know, just viewing their room and their environment with those sensory goggles. So is there too much light coming in or is it too dark?
Jessica:Ooh, interesting. If it's too dark, yeah.
Rachel:It could be, yeah.
Jessica:You could also look at is there noise coming from outside? Or does the door not block noise from other bedrooms or other rooms in the house very well?
Rachel:Or do they need a noise machine?
Jessica:Hmm. Yep. And so the other thing and I've talked with a couple of different people about this. Does your child's bedroom have too many visual distractions? So the, the one that comes to my mind will be toys, right? So are your kiddos toys just all over the room or maybe they're, you know, put away but they're visually accessible? So your child is laying in bed and they can look over and see all their toys and they're like, oh, I want to go move the toys. So then they're not getting to sleep.
Rachel:Yeah, that's definitely a good point. Or maybe the way that you haven't decorated is too stimulating. You know, you've got the you've got this fun wallpaper, and you've got mobile's hanging from the ceiling and you have glow in the dark stars from the sky.
Jessica:Glow in the dark stars are kind of cool.
Rachel:They are. I do too.
Jessica:But for some kids, it might be too much.
Rachel:Exactly, exactly. So just, you know, realizing that it's okay to have a simple bedroom. Simplicity is the highest form of elegance, I believe.
Jessica:Absolutely. You know, maybe the bedroom is just their bed. Maybe they have a dresser with nothing on it and everything else is just put away in the closet or in a different room. And at bedtime. It's just a very simple, calm space.
Rachel:Yes. Another thing to look into is the bedding. Is the material too hot? Is it too scratchy? Is it too fluffy? Is it too soft? Is it not warm enough? Is it too cold? Is it cold on like on the skin? There are so many issues that we hear about, we don't necessarily think to rule out the bedding.
Jessica:That tactile processing is huge, especially for those kiddos who get overstimulated by tactile input. So if your child doesn't like to get messy, then you might need to look at their bedding and how it's affecting their tactile system.
Rachel:Exactly. So as someone who is a little bit more on the sensitive side to textures, I can tell you this is a huge thing. I am very particular about the bedding material like I can't stand if like my clothes get all twisted up in the sheets. You know if I'm using flannel or you know, just those little things that you don't think about.
Jessica:Yep, I was gonna say for me, it's like it's the way to blink. It makes me really really hot.
Rachel:Yeah.
Jessica:Sometimes. So I actually only use a weighted blanket if my feet are cold. Because if I use it at any other time, I can't go to sleep because I'm too hot or I'll wake up in the middle the night just like sweating.
Rachel:Do you like the weighted blanket on your toes?
Jessica:Yes.
Rachel:Oh my god, I hate it. I'm like uncomfortable just thinking about it. I just don't like it when my feet get like pushed down. You know?
Jessica:I love that probe.
Rachel:See and I use my weighted blanket but I like roll it up and put it on the side of me so I can feel my edges instead of putting it on top.
Jessica:Yeah, I don't like.
Rachel:See you guys look at us and our sensory preferences, how different we are, but we can verbalize them and we can identify how we feel, what we like, what we don't like. So it takes time to be able to figure out what your child likes, what they don't like, and what's going to be beneficial.
Jessica:Totally. So, I think the first thing is identify like why your child is struggling to go asleep or stay asleep. So you just gave you a whole bunch of different ideas, what might be the cause. There could be, you know, a bunch of other reasons that we haven't even talked about, but figuring out the why is going to help you figure out how to help them.
Rachel:Yes. And before we talk about some strategies to implement, we do want to just do a quick disclaimer that you know, make sure that your child doesn't have sleep apnea. Make sure that they don't need you know, a sleep study. Make sure that they're you know, if they're snoring, you you rule out that their tonsils or adenoids aren't impacting their sleep. So those medical conditions, make sure that you talk to your child's pediatrician about that, just to make sure that it's not a significant medical issue causing these sleep disturbances.
Jessica:Totally.
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Rachel:So we're trying to figure out the why and I think the first step would be to keep a journal. Just start tracking everything that you do everything that your child does. foods they eat, how much they're drinking, naptimes, snacks, constipation, pooping, peeing, just write it all down.
Jessica:All the freakin things journal at all and at some point, after a couple of days, you are gonna find you're going to find some similarities and you're going to find patterns. And that might help you to identify what specifically is the challenge. And it might be more than one thing. There might be multiple things that are impacting your child's sleep.
Rachel:Yes, but you also might not find a pattern to and that's going to be frustrating if you don't find a pattern. But if you don't just keep tracking, and don't be afraid to try different things. And trial and error is what we say.
Jessica:For sure and it's going to be trial and error until you find out what's just right. And then you know, Rachel mentioned earlier that sometimes a bedtime sleep routine is really really effective for a while and then all of a sudden it stops working because your child changed or they started growing or you know something changed, and you're gonna have to modify your routine.
Rachel:Absolutely. So let's talk about some sensory strategies to help throughout the day to make a difference in your child's sleep at night.
Jessica:I think the first thing is going to be to make sure that you have something in place to increase movement throughout the day. You know, obstacle courses, sensory diet that your child uses, especially if your child is doing online school, you need to get more movement throughout the day.
Rachel:Yep, another strategy if your child is doing a lot of online school or using the screens a lot is try some blue light glasses for them. So at least we can do is block that blue light from going into their eyeballs. Try it out and see if it helps.
Jessica:The next thing is going to be to create your specific bedtime routine sensory diet. Use a visual schedule so start putting together that bed time visual schedule and routine that is the same or at least really, really close to the same every night.
Rachel:Yes. First things first, try your best not to have any screen time for at least two hours before bed and it would be a great time to incorporate power hour. So every night they turn turn off the TV, they turn on music, they play play play for like one hour and they just all together as a family. And I love that so much where you like have that dedicated time together, playing, roughhousing, rolling, playing board games, whatever you want to do. Whatever fits into your family, you know, have that power hour every night.
Jessica:Yeah, without screen time.
Rachel:No screens, yes.
Jessica:Also limiting food and drink one to two hours before bed, it can be helpful for their digestive system, there, you know, bowels, for just all the things to not have to get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom.
Rachel:Yep. So you're also going to want to begin
decreasing vestibular input:lights, high energy tasks, about two hours before bed. Now, think about vestibular input, we want to avoid high intensity vestibular input, Rotary vestibular input. So spinning and jumping and swinging really high. Those types of vestibular activities but linear vestibular movement, like rocking in a rocking chair, or slow swinging in one direction on a swing could be helpful to prepare for bedtime.
Jessica:Yep, and then at the same time that you're decreasing these high intensity activities, you know, one to two hours before bed, increase proprioceptive heavy work calming activities once two hours before bed.
Rachel:Yep, so these are things like animal walks, pushing and pulling heavy items like load up the laundry basket and have your child push it across the floor.
Jessica:Using items like a weighted vest for 20 minutes or so before bed can be helpful. Use the weighted blanket while you're sitting in bed or on the couch reading a story book can be helpful. Also, dimming the lights. I think this is huge. I've listened to a bunch of different podcasts about sleep just for myself, because I struggle with sleep sometimes and one of the big things is our lights in our house, that artificial light, affects our brain's ability to know when it's bedtime and release those different hormones and chemicals to help us sleep. And so if you can dim the lights, if you can get different types of light bulbs that can be really helpful throughout the entire house.
Rachel:Yeah, and maybe just go for a short walk outside because it's going to be dark. You know, it's winter now. But it might be warmer, you know, bundle up, but at least your body is recognizing Oh, it's dark outside. That means it's time to get ready for bed. Now. So I think that can be helpful. But in addition to you know, the visual system, try some calm music. We love the listening program. Try some essential oils, we're going to talk a little bit more about that. Lavender essential oil is like the most common one for sleep, but also cedarwood and Bedivere, those are great ones for our sensory kiddos.
Jessica:Also incorporating some massage, deep pressure, maybe use the brushing protocol, take a warm bath with some lavender essential oil drops. All of those things can be really calming.
Rachel:Yes. Okay, let's move on to our environment. So we want to create a calm, relaxing bedroom space with as few distractions as possible. So the first thing to maybe look at is blackout curtains.
Jessica:Yep, if you've got just regular curtains, there still can be some light from outside your house coming into the bedroom, and that can affect sleep.
Rachel:Yep.
Jessica:So talks about changing light bulbs on throughout the house, but also in your child's bedroom. You can get specific bedtime light bulbs that have a softer light. You can get light bulbs that don't have any blue light. Red light bulbs can be really effective and helping with sleep as well. There's some studies out there about red light therapy. So check that out.
Rachel:Yeah, also, you know, a lot of sound machines have lights on them nowadays too that you can change the lights. So we have the hatch, and you can have a noise machine going and then you can also change the lights as well. And one thing that I like about you know, a sound machine with different lights is you can work on, you know, increasing your child's understanding of when it's time to get up. So if they're constantly, you know, getting up and coming into your room at you know, four o'clock in the morning, you can start training them that when the light in their room is red, that means that they need to stay in there. Red means stop and then when the light turns green, they can come out of their room. And so you know this won't happen overnight, but it's a great thing to start incorporating to your toddler. If If you have a toddler, start training them about how to use that and, you know, see if that makes a difference.
Jessica:Totally, I love that. We did talk a little bit about, you know, cleaning up the bedroom a little bit decluttering it so that there's not toys all over. Maybe you take, you know, your posters down, change the wallpaper or the paint, so it's not as distracting visually.
Rachel:Yep, and then also choose blankets and bedding that provide comfort. So we love lycra sheets, and Harkla has a great lycra sheet. They're affordable, they're calming, they provide a lot of proprioceptive input, and if you use the code sensory, it'll save 10% off your purchase. So there's that Oh, and weighted blankets weighted blankets. Harkla has a weighted blanket option as well. Just make sure that your child can, you know, get out from underneath the weight of blanket and the lycra sheets independently. We do have a podcast topic on using weighted items efficiently. So make sure that you check that out, we'll link it in the show notes.
Jessica:So one thing we really wanted to talk about was nutrition, and medication and just that overall like mind-body health of your child. So if your child struggles with bedtime routine, or if they are waking up in the middle of the night, and you're trying these strategies, but you haven't looked at their nutrition, or what medications they're on, that's going to be a route to go. And Rachel did mention, you know, some other underlying medical conditions to take a look at as well. This can be along that same route. So what is your child's food intake like? Are they on a very limited diet? Because if they are they only eat a few foods, we know that's really challenging, but what happens their body's not getting adequate nutrition and this is going to significantly impact their ability to sleep.
Rachel:Preach it.
Jessica:With that, you know, getting some feeding therapy. There's specific feeding therapists out there, occupational therapists, of course, speech therapists can all help with feeding challenges, but also look at, you know, a functional nutritionist because that can be a good route to go to help get more nutrition into your child's diet to help them sleep better.
Rachel:Yeah. So think about how much sugar they're eating throughout the day. Are they eating processed foods, soda? You know, where can you modify their diet just a little bit just to see if that helps them sleep. Are they drinking enough water? How is their gut health? You know, there's the whole brain-gut connection that we're not going to get into today. But think about if your gut isn't healthy, then your brain isn't going to be healthy. So maybe throwing in a probiotic or prebiotic, but definitely talk with your child's doctor before you do that. But keep that in mind.
Jessica:Another thing to look at is going to be medication. Is your child taking any prescription medication? What are the side effects? How is this impacting their ability to get up and move throughout the day? Is it affecting their appetite? Is it affecting their mood? While there are definitely some positives to medication, at times, sometimes the negative side effects outweigh the positives. So that can be something to look at.
Rachel:Yes. Unfortunately, we have to talk about that. Because you know, we like to look at the child as a whole and those medications definitely can just, you know, put them in a fog and put them in a funk. So if you're listening to this, and you're feeling discouraged, if you're like, oh my gosh, I'm causing all these challenges for my child. Don't think that way. It's not worth it.
Jessica:No, it's not your fault.
Rachel:No, we're here to just give you the information, give you the facts, give you our opinions, just our experience, and it is your job now to take this information and, you know, put it into action, create a plan, and just take it one day at a time, one step at a time.
Jessica:Yep. And always remember that it's probably going to get harder before it gets easier. You know, if you start implementing a new routine with your child, they might be resistant to it because it's new and it's different. But you just have to stay consistent. You just have to keep trying and don't give up because it doesn't work the first or the second or the third time, keep going and it will get easier.
Rachel:It will. A couple other things to look into is the listening program. like we talked about earlier. We've had significant results from families doing the listening program or the sleep genius through advanced brain technologies to help their body sleep at night. So look into that program, if you haven't already.
Jessica:We do have a discount code through advanced brain technologies. So that will be in the show notes so you can check it out and then the other thing to look at is going to be primitive reflex integration. So if your child's primitive reflexes are not integrated, and they should be based on their age, then that is going to be something that can also affect their sleep. And we have a crash course on primitive reflex integration that you can check out. And that'll be in the show notes as well.
Rachel:So going along with primitive reflex integration are rhythmic movements, and that can be really beneficial to help get your kiddo relaxed and calm and in just a more, you know, organized state. So we're going to link to a rhythmic movement training program that you can look into as well.
Jessica:Okay, so a while back, we posted on our Instagram, and asked our listeners, asked our, you know, our peeps, what their favorite bedtime or sleep routine activities were, and we got some good answers that I liked. So we're just gonna give you some more ideas, and then we're gonna let you go.
Rachel:Okay, first one, dry skin brushing with joint compressions. Now, this is the the Wilbarger brushing protocol and it's.
Jessica:So hold on so So I wonder if it is because I've heard of dry skin brushing where you use like a brush.
Rachel:Yes.
Jessica:And it's just like, but people a lot of times will do it to like, help their skin.
Rachel:Yeah.
Jessica:And their lymph nodes, right. So when we got this one, I was curious if it was that or if it was the Wilbarger brushing?
Rachel:Okay, so it could be either, but what I was going to say is if you are trying to do the Wilbarger brushing protocol, get trained by your therapist before you implement it. Because you can have more adverse reactions and positive reactions if you don't do it correctly. But if you're just doing some dry skin brushing to help your skin, help your lips, your lymphatic system, then get after it.
Jessica:I know I don't know. I just read that and I was like, I wonder which one that is?
Rachel:True. I'm glad you thought of that my brain went strictly to the deep pressure brushing protocol.
Jessica:The only reason I thought differently was because like the listener put in dry skin brushing and I was like okay, that sounds different. So I don't know.
Rachel:True. True.
Jessica:Only she knows.
Rachel:Yep.
Jessica:Okay, so another one that we got was foam rolling and stretching. Talk about all the proprioceptive input.
Rachel:Yes, I like that. This is a new one sweet dreams water, which is kids calm magnesium. Now, magnesium has a lot of benefits for sleep. So definitely check with your doctor before you implement magnesium.
Jessica:So the next one was an app and it was called sleepy paws by Moshe. Moshe? Moshe?
Rachel:Sure. I haven't heard of this one before.
Jessica:Yep. So we're gonna have to check that one out.
Rachel:And the last one, low lights, sound machine and books.
Jessica:All the things.
Rachel:Yeah. All right, you guys. Hopefully this episode 2.0 was helpful. If you want to hear our rookie podcast days, then scroll back to the archives and listen to episode number three and check out the first episode that we did on sleep. But, you know, leave us a review on iTunes. If you think about it. Let us know your thoughts about this episode.
Jessica:We will talk to you next week, I guess.
Rachel:Yes. All right, you guys. Good luck. Happy sleeping. All right, you guys. One more quick reminder about today's sponsor, Harkla.co, a family owned company that provides therapy and sensory equipment, along with supplements. We love them. We love their mission. We love their equipment and we love that 1% of each month sales goes to the University of Washington's Autism Center which funds cutting edge research and sponsors scholarships for children with autism to attend a summer camp. How cool is that?
Jessica:For real? I love it. They're great. They're local to Boise, which is really cool for us. But I mean, it's still cool for everyone else too. But if you're ready to jump in and check these guys out, go to Harkla.co and you can save 10% on any of their products by using the code sensory. Make sure you let us know what your thoughts are and definitely go check them out.
Rachel:We are so excited to work together to help create confidence kids all over the world and work towards a happier, healthier life. Just a friendly reminder this is general information related to occupational therapy, pediatrics and sensory integration. We do not know you or your child therefore, we do not know any specific needs. Therefore, you should always refer back to your pediatrician and occupational therapists for more information.