All Things Sensory by Harkla

#131 - Rachel and Jessica's Birth Stories & the Connection Between Birth + Child Development

December 09, 2020 Rachel Harrington & Jessica Hill
All Things Sensory by Harkla
#131 - Rachel and Jessica's Birth Stories & the Connection Between Birth + Child Development
Show Notes Transcript

This episode is all about birth stories - Rachel and Jessica talk about their sons and how different their experiences were. No judgement, no criticism. Just stories. Can you relate?!

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Rachel:

Welcome to the sensory project show with Rachel and Jessica. We're here to share all things sensory occupational therapy, parenting, self care and overall health and wellness from a therapists perspective, providing raw, honest, fun ideas and strategies for parents and families to implement into daily life. Thank you so much for joining us. Before we jump into today's episode, we have got to talk about a company that we recently discovered Harkla. Not only do they make high quality, sensory products and supplements, but the owners are also local to us in Boise.

Jessica:

We had the opportunity to sit down and chat with them and our mission is totally aligned. You know that we only recommend companies and products that we trust and use ourselves, which is why we're so excited to share this amazing company with you.

Rachel:

Stay tuned to hear more later in this episode, as well as to get a special discount.

Jessica:

Okay, well, let's start today's episode.

Rachel:

Hey, guys, welcome back to another episode of the sensory project show. This is number 131. And I'm Rachel.

Jessica:

And I'm Jessica. And today we are going a little bit off our normal topics.

Rachel:

Even though it's all connected, it's it's not our normal episode and we aren't like we're just we're just sharing. Let's tell them what we're going to talk about Jessica.

Jessica:

We are going to talk about our birth stories today because we both have a child, a son, which is just, I think, actually kind of fun that we birthed boys. But we're going to talk about our birth stories because they are drastically different. But also because we think it's important to, you know, get the word out there that we as women need to advocate for ourselves more during pregnancy and birth.

Rachel:

Yeah and so when we were kind of brainstorming about how we wanted this episode to go, we were saying like, what are our goals with this episode? You know, it's one thing to just share your birth story. You know, women like to share that it's empowering and interesting to us. But more than just the birth stories, we want to we want to share, like our whys behind how our birth stories went, and what we would do differently and what was great, what wasn't great, what, what things we took away from our experiences, that will hopefully make your experience better if you are planning on having a kid or you want to have more kids. So that's kind of the direction that we're going to go with this episode.

Jessica:

So I'm gonna start and my birth story is more, we're gonna say traditional and like, up to date with what we are told nowadays. So when this episode comes out, my son Logan will be seven years old. So it's been seven years and I still remember a lot of the details, but some of it's fuzzy of course. So, I knew that I wanted to get an epidural because I was like, Nope, don't want to do the pain. So I knew I wanted the epidura but I also knew that like I didn't want to do C-section. But I was also very uninformed with compared to what I know now. At the time, I was very uninformed about the different things that I know now, right? Because I just wasn't as far along in my career. So because I had just gotten into school, I wasn't,

Rachel:

Could you walk at all? you know, I hadn't started my OT career yet, hadn't started the podcast yet., you know, I didn't know all of these different themes, all these different factors for development for a child to develop. So I remember I was like 39 weeks going on 40 weeks, and I went in and my doctor was super old school. He is very elderly. I mean, he's probably in his 50s or 60s. So he's very traditional, very old school. Also not very, like personable. I remember being like, man. I don't really like him that much. But I don't want to doctor hop, you know. So I kept him and went in and he was like, Well, it's lets wait another week, and then we'll see where you're at. So I want to say I was like 41 weeks when I was fine or 40 weeks. I was at 40 weeks and I was like look, my due dates. Let's just do that. So he said okay, well if you don't want to wait another week to see if you progress more, then you can go ahead and I'll call the hospital they'll have a room ready for you, and I said, Great, let's do it. Now, I wasn't having contractions, my water hadn't broke, ike, I wasn't having any anything, any symptoms that it was time to give birth. But I, you know, the doctors told me I was at 40 weeks going on 41 weeks, it was like, let's just go in and do it. So I did. So they broke my water, they induced me, and it was like three or four o'clock in the afternoon when I went in, and I gave birth to Logan at

like 7:30-7:

45 the next day in the morning. You know, more than like sick I don't know, was that like 16 hours a labor or something like that. But because I had the epidural, it was like, I was very out of touch with my body. I mean, I was numb all the way down.

Jessica:

Oh, gosh, no, I couldn't. My legs were completely numb, I had to have a catheter because like, I had no bladder control. I remember throwing up because I had such bad heartburn and acid reflux coming up, it was terrible. I do remember too in the third trimester, I had such bad heartburn that I couldn't even lay down and they prescribed me medication, a pill. I don't even remember what it was that I could take when I was having heartburn. So I was on like a little bit of medication for a little bit of time. Other than that, like my whole pregnancy, I didn't have any complications. No complications with the birth. Everything went really smooth. He came out, you know, he's healthy. Everything you know, looked great. So again, very traditional birth story. Very normal, quote unquote normal, had an epidural, they induced me, broke my water, that kind of stuff. But after he was born, I remember holding him and looking at his head. And there was like a dent in his head like a mark on the top of his head. So I asked them, I was like, what is this on top of his head? Why does he had like a hole or a dent on his head? And the doctor was like, he just brushed it off. He was like, oh, that must have been from where they broke your water and they, you know, went too far in his head. And it was like, what? I remember being very upset about that. I was like, that should not have happened. Like, what if they had gone even farther and totally punctured through his head into his brain? Can you even imagine? So? Yes, that's mine.

Rachel:

Man. So then afterwards, did you like did you bond okay? D id you have any postpartum depression or anxiety? Do you feel like afterwards everything went well and smoothly transitioning to the fourth trimester?

Jessica:

So I think it did. You know, I was on maternity leave for three months. You know, so I tell all my friends when they're, you know, getting ready to have a kid that, you know, for the first three months of Logan's life, he slept on my chest at night. You know, we didn't transition him to a crib until after the first three months because he was either on my husband's chest, in between us, or laying on my chest every single night. And he got great tummy time.

Rachel:

Yeah.

Jessica:

With that, you know, we weren't really worried about him, you know, sleeping on his back all the time. You know, he we also didn't have containers. You know, we had a car seats, we had his crib that he was he didn't even really get into

Unknown:

his crib until after the first three months, and then we had like an old school bassinet that like rocked, not electronic at all, you had to push it if he wanted it to rock. He took most of his naps in there, or on the couch, or on one of us like we didn't have any fancy equipment. Now, I will tell you, it was mostly because we, you know, couldn't really afford it. And at the same time, neither me nor my husband at the time, were like, Yeah, we want to get this fancy equipment. Like it just wasn't on our radar yet. And he had already had a couple of other kids so and he had raised his kids without containers as well. So you know, Logan did not have containers. He had one stroller, but it was literally like an old school little tiny stroller like it was not a fancy one. And, you know, I'm really thankful now that I know about containers that I didn't have them. I did not use any of those containers and I'm so thankful for that.

Rachel:

You said you always carried him or like carried him on your chest like with a wrap or something. Right?

Jessica:

So I didn't have a wrap so I would just carry him.

Rachel:

You just carry him. Okay.

Jessica:

We did a lot of hiking at the time and like, so it was born in November. So the following summer before he turned one, we did have a backpacking backpack that we used. And I think I had a small front carrier that I used maybe for just a couple of months, but not very often. Most of the time is caring and then once he started, you know, after a few months, once he was sitting up right. You know, when we went grocery shopping, he's sitting in the cart.

Rachel:

Yeah.

Jessica:

But as far as postpartum, you know, I don't remember a lot, mostly because I had to go finish school. You know, on maternity leave for three months, and then I had to jump right back into school so I could graduate. So I don't even remember dealing with a lot of postpartum just because I was so busy.

Rachel:

Yeah.

Jessica:

And I had a really good support system. I did you know, my husband at the time was an experienced father so he was was really helpful. And like, my parents were very helpful. So all of these were really helpful with that.

Rachel:

Good. And I just think it's so interesting, you know, you're talking about containers and how you didn't really, you know, you can't really afford them, and they weren't really on your radar. It's like, nowadays, the media just makes you think that you have to have all of these fancy containers and the cutest stroller and everything's so bougie and fancy, and, you know. It's just like, no, you don't need that stuff. Like my kids on the floor right now.

Jessica:

Where he should be.

Rachel:

Yeah, he's sleeping, but you know, he's on the floor.

Jessica:

So I will say, you know, if I ever decide to have another child, there are some things I would definitely do differently. And this goes along with, you know, what I've learned myself, but also Rachel, from you, because you did so much research while you were pregnant, just you know, took all those steps. And so there's definitely some things I would do differently. You know, I, as much as I look at it, and I'm like, I don't want to go through that pain. So to be honest, having the epidural was really nice, because I didn't have to go through all that pain, you know, and you look at me, and I'm like, Oh, I have some tattoos. But I will also admit with that, that I hate getting tattooed, because I don't want to pain. I like the after effects just like giving birth, like I liked the the baby that comes. But knowing what I know now I definitely would not get induced, I would not let them break my water, I would just wait for it to happen. Because knowing what I know, now we know that the body is meant to do this and so there are no complications. I'm just gonna let my body do it and, you know, brave it up and not scares the shit out of me. But you know, there's just so many benefits for just letting your body do what it knows how to do.

Rachel:

Yeah, I think it kind of sets the baby mom up for future success and that's, that's really why I wanted to do it that way.

Jessica:

Yes. So for those people who maybe have not seen your Instagram video of your birth story, Rachel, tell everyone about your birth story.

Rachel:

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Rachel:

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Jessica:

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Rachel:

Even before the whole birth process started like Jessica said, I did a lot of research. I followed the mama natural book and courses. So I highly recommend those and really I started just prepping my body for birth because I wanted to do a an unmedicated birth. I know it gets very, you have to be careful with what you say, I've gotten in trouble for saying like a natural birth because you know and so I have to say an unmedicated vaginal birth. So just know

Jessica:

We get to say whatever we want.

Rachel:

Exactly. So in my mind, it was I consider it just a natural birth. That's just how I process it. What I envisioned going on so I started drinking the red raspberry leaf tea at 35 weeks. Started eating dates, like six, no, I, you're supposed to eat six dates a dayI ate like three because it's a texture thing for me. I know it was hard and it was probably like, three to four days a week if I'm going to be totally honest. And so I was also trying to figure out how he was positioned. So he was head down for a long time. But I was trying to figure out his position. So which way he was turned, because I had found out that the way that he's turned in there can make the birth process a lot easier. So

Jessica:

Which is just so funny, because, you know, during my pregnancy, my doctor, my, you know, old school doctor did not tell me a single thing about that.

Rachel:

Yeah, well, I also went through a midwife and I think that made a big difference as well. And from the start, they knew that I was kind of a hippie and you know, weird about this stuff. So they knew that it was important to me and so I kind of had to advocate when we I think it was like 30 by 38 week appointment, or 37. I said, can you tell which position he's in? I know he's head down. So we did a quick ultrasound and he was they call it ROA, so right occiput anterior and they want to be left occiput anterior. No, ROP, he was posterior. I get them all confused. So he was right, we want him to be left and anterior facing. So my midwives gave me some movements to do to help get him to spin and also a good resources spinning babies.

Jessica:

I remember you walking on the curb with one foot, you walked with one foot on the road and one foot like up and down on the curb.

Rachel:

Yeah. So every night when we go on our walks, I've spent some time walking on both sides with the curbs. I leaned a lot. So I would lean forward on the counter over the therapy ball. I would like really try to stay out of the reclined position. So did all of that for a week, went in for my next appointment, did a quick ultrasound, and he was in the right position. And so I was like, so pumped. I was like, Oh my gosh, I actually did it. Like, if I can do this, and I can do I can do anything, you know. So really kind of set that motivation up for the birthing process. So 38 weeks, we did that and then 39 weeks, Jessica, you and I were recording on a Monday and I was telling you, I felt a little weird. Little crampy like more intense Braxton Hicks and I'd had Braxton Hicks throughout, like half the pregnancy. So they were just more intense that day, and I felt a little nauseous. And then went to bed that night woke up at like, two in the morning to my water breaking on its own. And my plan was just kind of labor at home and that didn't work out very well. Because

Jessica:

Let me just interrupt real quick.

Rachel:

Yeah.

Jessica:

Because it's so funny when you think about laboring, doctors want you to go in as soon as your water breaks. You start to labor so they can hook you up to the machines and monitor and I see it. I didn't want any of that. And so my midwives for like, you know, I sent them a message, I texted them, they were like come in. You can come in if you want or you can wait till the morning and so I'm like, It's fine. I'll wait till the morning and that didn't work out. So we ended up going in at about four o'clock and at this point, you know, the there's actually contractions happening, they're a couple minutes apart, and then I started throwing up. And I hate throwing up and I was not prepared to throw up as much as I did. So we drive to the hospital and throughout my pregnancy, I didn't have any cervical checks or you know, I no one ever reached their fingers in there and were like, Hey, your two centimeters dilated 90% efface like I just didn't care. I knew my body would do what it needed to do. So I get to the hospital and they did a cervical check, which was terrible. I was like, I'm glad I didn't do this. So they Of all the things to feel terrible about.

Rachel:

Yeah, I know. I was terrible. So I was like four to five centimeters. still throwing up, and they they hooked me up to the monitor for about 30 minutes just to check to make sure everything's okay. They asked me if I wanted, like my blood drawn for something just in case I hemorrhage they'd know what blood type I was. I was like, no, it's fine. So I declined that. So that you know, this is where I'm saying like, you don't have to have all of these interventions that the doctors and nurses are asking you for. You know, you don't have to be hooked up to the monitor at all time and so then we went down to the labor and delivery room, I hopped in the bath. I didn't get an IV because that was another thing they asked for if I wanted to be hooked up to an IV and I said, nope, I'm good. I did feel like I got a little dehydrated because my hands would like kind of claw up when I would have contractions and so I was drinking coconut water throughout that process. And so this is probably like, so we went in at four, this is probably like 5:30-6 ish, I'm in the bathtub laboring, then I'm like, I have to push. So we get out of the bathtub, we go to the bed, and I'm, you know, in these different positions. That's the beauty of not having the

Jessica:

It's not a thing. You do it right away, right? epidural is you can feel what your body needs and so I was able to be in these different positions to help kind of get the baby down where he needed to be. And we ended up which I did not want to deliver on my back, but I was it actually worked the

best. And by probably like 7:

30 in the morning, we were like, all right, pushing, and the midwife was like, okay, it's gonna take you about an hour to push this baby out. And I'm like, Oh, my gosh. I'm looking back on it now, the pain, the pain wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I think the the hardest part was pushing and when we when we got to the ring of fire is what they call it. Definitely the hardest part and I asked multiple times, like is he here yet? It was just it was really magical. Because once once he, you know, was crowning, and his head was just right there, the midwife, she stopped me, she said, push, push, push, and then stop, and then push, push, push, and then stop to help reduce tearing. And all of a sudden she was like looked down, and I looked down and there was a baby between my legs. And she's like, as calm as a cucumber, pull them out. And I was what like this, grab his head, pull him out. And so I just grabbed his head and pulled them onto my chest. And he was there and crying. And we were able to do the delayed cord cut, which I'm assuming Jessica, you guys didn't do the delayed cord cut, because you didn't know it was a thing, right?

Rachel:

Yeah. No, so we laid there and you know, you can kind of feel the cord pulsating. And so it gets all the nutrients in there. And Daniel was able to cut the cord. And then we just, we just did skin on skin right away. And we breastfed right away. And it was just such a relaxing, peaceful moment. Like, I would have 37 kids, if they could all be like that. You know, it was such a cool process.

Jessica:

And I think that, like I will say, I think we are both fortunate that we didn't have complications.

Rachel:

Absolutely.

Jessica:

Very healthy people like even I mean, gosh, back when I, you know, had Logan, I was not nearly as healthy as I am now. Like I wasn't, you know, focused on, you know, nourishing my body with food and working out, but I was still relatively healthy. You know, and so thankful for that. And then you of course are, you know, very healthy person, very mindful of what you put in your body. And so, you know, of course, those are very beneficial. But even still, there could have been unforeseen complications.

Rachel:

Absolutely.

Jessica:

In either of our pregnancies and I think we're both very fortunate that that didn't happen.

Rachel:

Yes. Because that would have changed the entire trajectory of my like, birth plan. You know, and, and I feel very grateful that we were able to kind of follow that plan, quote, unquote.

Jessica:

Absolutely and I think, you know, when you're describing it, and how aware you were of everything, and I just look back, and I'm like, yeah, it's been like seven years. But I was also drugged up. You know, I was I had these chemicals in my body that were unnatural and so my brain and my memory are definitely not as clear. And I wasn't as in touch with my body because half of my body was numb.

Rachel:

Yeah.

Jessica:

So it definitely changed the experience for me, for sure.

Rachel:

I think that's such an interesting thing you bring up I hadn't really thought of it that way. But you are like, when they induce you that pitocin, they drug you with that, and then they drug you with the epidural, and you aren't quite as clear looking back; whereas I remember every detail and every feeling that I had throughout the whole process. And I just think that's, that's magical. And I just I hate that, you know, doctors want to take that away, because it's easier, and it's traditional, and

Jessica:

Well, and, you know, I think one point to be made is that modern medicine definitely has saved a lot of lives.

Rachel:

100% Yes.

Jessica:

But I also think that the problem is is that now that's the norm. You know, it's not normal to have an unmedicated birth anymore, even though that's like, that's the way our bodies were intended to do it.

Rachel:

We think of birth now as a medical procedure and it's not a medical procedure unless, you know, you have multiple births, or you have complications. And thank goodness, modern medicine is able to deliver these babies. But, you know, believe in yourself and believe in your ability to trust your body, and know like, you are designed to have babies as crazy as that sounds. That's why we were put on this earth if we think back to the very beginning.

Jessica:

Yeah, no matter what you believe in, whether you believe in, you know, God, creating humans or evolution, like either way, our bodies are meant to produce more humans.

Rachel:

Exactly, exactly. So I just I think that's, that's why we're here. And you know, it can be a controversial topic. But just just know from our hearts like the reason why we're sharing this is just to, to share our positive experience. Like we both had positive birth experiences. Yes, they were different. One was traditional one was a little bit untraditional, but we have healthy kids, and we, we healed very well. And so no matter how, how it goes for you, it's going to be great.

Jessica:

We both agree that it is important, no not necessarily important, but I think both Rachel and I advocate for, you know, unmedicated natural births, especially now that we've both been through, you know, a birth of our child. I think that we can both agree and say that, if possible, do what you can to have an unmedicated birth, because of that experience that you're going to have as a mother, and how you're going to feel all these feelings and you're going to be, it's just gonna be such a different experience. But then, you know, let's talk a little bit about how it's going to affect the sensory system of your child, and how you know, the medication from your body is going to go into that child's body and how that natural birth of that natural vaginal birth is going to affect their sensory system.

Rachel:

Yeah, and the problem with these medical interventions is, it often turns into a cascade of interventions from from what I've learned. So you start, you induce the birth, and then you have an epidural, and the epidural slows down labor, so then they give you more Pitocin and then that speeds up labor, but then it's not how your body should be naturally doing labor. So then the baby starts, you know, the heart rate drops, and then there's trauma, and then all of a sudden, there's an emergency, and you have to have a C-section, because the heart rate drop too low. And, and so it's just the cascade of interventions, because it's not what your body is supposed to do, like, as great as these medical interventions are, and they can be, it's not what your body is supposed to be doing. And your body knows what to do. And so what can go from, you know, a great experience, you know, an uncomplicated birthing experience, it can turn into a traumatic birth really quickly, because of these interventions. And it kind of they, you know, they're kind of not helpful in that sense, as much as we should think they would be. But I just think if pain is what's holding you back, if you prep your body, and you prep the baby for the unmedicated birth, it won't be as bad as you think it is. I mean, my labor was like seven hours.

Jessica:

And anything about mine, where I was induced, and my body wasn't ready, and it was twice as long.

Rachel:

Yeah, exactly, which makes you wonder, like, you were induced. Yes. Somehow it took longer. I mean, there has to be a reason why, right?

Jessica:

Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't ready.

Rachel:

Yeah. So.

Jessica:

You know, we don't want to discount anyone's experience.

Rachel:

No.

Jessica:

We don't want to discount any of those parents who chose to have an epidural like I did, or discount any women who, because of medical reasons needed to have a C-section. You know, all birth is beautiful. You know, we're just saying that if you have the opportunity to have an unmedicated birth, try it.

Rachel:

Absolutely.

Jessica:

If you have that opportunity.

Rachel:

And the other thing that's important is if you aren't able to have that unmedicated, natural vaginal birth, be aware of potential challenges that you and your child could have down the road. I mean, research shows that C-ections are a potential cause for retained reflexes, right? Because those reflexes are designed to help push the baby out of the canal and get them to where they need to be. And so if if they aren't naturally doing those, then sometimes that the child can hold on to those reflexes. And even, you know, just going through the birth canal, there's microbiomes that are passed from mother to baby, and it kind of sets their immune system up for success. And if you aren't able to have a vaginal birth, then ask them to kind of, I mean, this is kind of weird, but you can have the doctors take a swab from your lady bits, and like, put it on the baby and the baby's mouth. Like there's, there's all these things that you can do just take the time to research. And so even if you're not able to have that experience, you can advocate for a gentle C-section, right? So it's not the typical.

Jessica:

And I think, you know, one more point, really quick, too, is just to advocate for yourself, you know, do your research. Like Rachel did so much research, and I'm so thankful for it, because you guys have such an amazing experience. And do your research, talk to people, but also, don't be afraid to stand up to a doctor that's telling you no, we're not going to do this. Say, Okay, I'm gonna go to a different doctor and just go to a different doctor, like, find the one that fits what you want.

Rachel:

Exactly. And don't be afraid to say no. If your doctor wants to do a cervical exam, and you don't want to risk, you know, getting an infection, or you don't want to do that say no, say no, I'm good. Thank you. Yeah, I don't need it. It's not medically necessary. We don't, it's just going to make me frustrated, because I'm going to find out that I'm dilated, but nothing's progressing. So don't be afraid to just say no and, and trust yourself and your body. We just want to share this because it's, it's not normal. Like it's, it's different. And that's okay to be different, and do things differently. We're, you know, obviously medical professionals, we are doing our research and our due diligence in these areas. So just don't don't hate on us for sharing these things.

Jessica:

Really, we don't need any more negativity in our life.

Rachel:

We don't. So we're just we're just sharing our stories, and everyone is entitled to their own story and their own opinions.

Jessica:

On that note, thank you all for listening.

Rachel:

Yes. If you guys want to share your birth stories with us, though, feel free. We will read those all day long. So

Jessica:

Totally.

Rachel:

And you know, maybe we need to compile an episode of a variety of your birth stories to just kind of share and promote how how things have turned out differently and what you notice and what you loved and what you didn't love. So that could be a thing.

Jessica:

Or how you would do it differently next time.

Rachel:

Absolutely. Yeah.

Jessica:

Okay.

Rachel:

All right, you guys.

Jessica:

That's it. We're out.

Rachel:

We're out. We'll chat with you next week.

Jessica:

Okay, bye.

Rachel:

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Jessica:

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Rachel:

We are so excited to work together to help create confident kids all over the world and work towards a happier, healthier life.

Jessica:

Just a friendly reminder this is general information related to occupational therapy, pediatrics, and sensory integration. We do not know you or your child therefore, we do not know any specific needs. Therefore you should always refer back to your pediatrician and occupational therapists for more information