All Things Sensory by Harkla

#140 - Interview with OT Entrepreneur Reema Naim from OT Studios LA

February 17, 2021 Rachel Harrington, COTA/L, AC & Jessica Hill, COTA/L
All Things Sensory by Harkla
#140 - Interview with OT Entrepreneur Reema Naim from OT Studios LA
Show Notes Transcript

A career in occupational therapy can take on many different characteristics and trajectories. Our guest today, Reema Naim, is a great example of this and she shares her unique path and how she built a business and lifestyle around her passions and strengths. 

We hear from Reema about her early forays into the world of health and the different exploratory steps she took before settling into the role of an OT. Reema was able to open her own clinic, and since then has increasingly pursued work as a writer on the subject, while still managing the OTs who work at the clinic she opened! 

This inspiring progress that she has made, chasing her interests and using her gifts, has resulted in the amazing Sensokids books, which we definitely recommend checking out! Reema explains to us that her ultimate goal for these is to turn them into a TV series one day! 

Our conversation also covers some of Reema's heroes, her attitudes toward parenting and balancing responsibilities, as well as the helpful role her dad has played in her career. Reema weighs in on the importance of trust and togetherness at a practice, explaining the time and energy it has taken to build a strong team that she can rely on. We finish off this wonderful conversation getting some advice from Reema about business, motherhood, and your life's goals. Tune in get it all! 

Key Points From This Episode:

  • Reema's morning routine currently and managing her motherly responsibilities.
  • Why Reema would love to sit down and chat with Beyonce!
  • Giraffes, pistachio ice-cream, and sensory quirks from Reema.
  • Reema's focus on pediatrics and sensory integration and her motivation for following a path in occupational therapy.
  • The winding journey of academia and career that has led Reema to her current position. 
  • Information on Sensokids, Reema's exciting book series!
  • Reema's love of magic and creativity and how she works that into her work in OT.  
  • The hopes that Reema has for her books and eventually turning them into a television series!
  • How Reema uses her Sensokids framework at her very own clinic!
  • The great advice that Reema's father gave her when she opened the doors to her clinic. 
  • Life and work in California as an occupational therapist; comparing Reema's experiences. 
  • Balancing numerous commitments and pursuits; how Reema's gets it all done.  
  • How becoming a mom has influenced Reema's therapy practice and philosophy. 
  • The process of building a strong and trustworthy team of employees at the clinic.
  • How Reema approached turning her passion and talent into something special and unique. 
  • Reema's advice about thinking outside of the box, self-love, and fearlessness! 

 

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Jessica:

Welcome to the sensory project show with Rachel and Jessica. We're here to share all things sensory, occupational therapy, parenting, self care and overall health and wellness from a therapists perspective, providing raw, honest, fun ideas and strategies for parents and families to implement into daily life. Thank you so much for joining us.

Rachel:

Hey friends, welcome back to another episode of the sensory project show. This is episode 140.

Jessica:

Thank you so much for being here. We are Rachel and Jessica and today we have an amazing conversation with Rima who is an occupational therapist from California.

Rachel:

Yes. Reema has accomplished so many amazing things and she also wants to accomplish so many more amazing things. And it was such a fun conversation that we had with her. So let's jump in and meet Reema. Before we jump into today's episode, we have got to talk about a company that we recently discovered Harkla. Not only do they make high quality sensory products and supplements, but the owners are also local to us in Boise.

Jessica:

We had the opportunity to sit down and chat with them and our mission is totally aligned. You know that we only recommend companies and products that we trust and use ourselves, which is why we're so excited to share this amazing company with you.

Rachel:

Stay tuned to hear more later in this episode as well as to get a special discount.

Jessica:

Okay, let's start today's episode.

Rachel:

Hi, Reema, how are you today?

Rima:

Hey, I'm good. Thank you guys for having me.

Jessica:

We're really excited to have you and we're excited to hear all the things you're going to tell us, but first, we have to ask you five secret questions.

Rima:

Okay.

Rachel:

First one, what does your morning routine look like?

Rima:

My morning routine looks like waking up at 6:30 in the morning to go feed my baby and make his bottle, get him get him up and ready for the day. Once he's fed and he's good, then I either eat myself or I get myself ready, get showered, and get ready for the day. But first thing is wake up, make a bottle, go to the baby.

Jessica:

I like that you like sometimes take a morning nap.

Rima:

I have to sometimes. I'm just so exhausted and it's weird because when he goes to sleep, I'm usually off the clock and I'm like, okay, I can take I can rest now. But I still feel tired in the morning. It's like, weird. It has to be a motherly thing. It wasn't like this.

Jessica:

Oh, it is Yeah.

Rachel:

I definitely feel that.

Jessica:

All right, if you could choose any famous person alive or dead to sit down and have a conversation with who would it be?

Rima:

I'm gonna say Beyonce. I just think based on what I've known about her, I've danced my upbringing when I was younger, and I always admired her. Her work ethic. I learned a lot about your story and how she got to where she got to and built this huge, insane empire. And I've always admired a lot of things about her from her class and from the way she conducts herself and to her being able to do so many different things in the field that she loves.

Rachel:

I love it. So good. All right. Would you rather: ride a zebra or a giraffe?

Rima:

I would have to say a giraffe. I think this is just because my son has a huge giraffe in his nursery and he's obsessed with this giraffe. Like every morning he kisses the giraffe. The giraffe is a part of the whole family. It's like a hugething and so I'm really into giraffes now. So I think the giraffe.

Rachel:

That's so cute.

Jessica:

I love it. All right, what is your favorite ice cream flavor?

Rima:

Pistachio.

Rachel:

Oh, like the Spaghetti Factory pistachio ice cream?

Rima:

I don't know if that's the Spaghetti Factory ice cream, but I love pistachio ice cream. So whether it's like ice cream, gelato, just this flavor of pistachios is really yummy to me.

Rachel:

That's a new one. I like it.

Rima:

Really?

Rachel:

Yeah. This is our last one and this is our favorite one. What is your sensory quirk?

Rima:

I rock myself sometimes when I'm when I want to sleep.

Rachel:

Oh.

Rima:

If I'm in bed, I'll kind of be rocking and then it kind of put me to sleep. If I have a hard time falling asleep, I noticed myself rocking.

Rachel:

I bet your son loves it?

Rima:

Yea. I know!

Jessica:

What is she doing?

Rachel:

Well, now that we all know your deepest, darkest secrets, tell us who you are, what you do, why you do it, and how you do it? All the things.

Rima:

So I am a doctor of OT, I specialize in pediatrics and sensory integration. Why I do it? I initially went into psychology and wanted to be a child psychologist. That was my kind of go to. I wanted to help children who were from abused homes and things like that. And I noticed that I was taking my home with my work home with me, and I was very emotional, and it was draining emotionally. And then I got introduced to OT. And what I liked about OT was, I mean, these kids that I was working with these kids that we were dealing with, they they had autism or they had sensory processing and so it wasn't like, it was something that I could steal them away from their homes and take them away from bad parents, or you know what I mean. It was something in another way that I could help, that wasn't something that I had to remove them from the situation. I didn't feel that guilt, that I couldn't remove them from the situation. So I felt like okay, you know, this is, this is an area where I'm not taking my work home with me, I'm actually feeling empowered and happy and excited that I'm making a positive impact on these children's lives in the situation that they were dealt with. And seeing the families, you know, seeing the impact that we make on families was huge, too. So I went in, I did my bachelor's and my master's in OT. And once I finished, I went in the to physical disabilities, and I started working in adult inpatient rehab and I thought that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to be in the hospital. I wanted to be, you know, hands on with, you know, physios cases and in that experience, I realized, no, I do not want to do this. My passion was always working with kids and I was like, I need to go back to that. So I went back to my to do the SIPT certification. I don't know if you guys have the SIPT to where you are, do you? Do the SIPT over there?

Rachel:

No, not consistently.

Rima:

The sensory integration and Praxis tests are in depth course on sensory integrationand I went in and did that and within doing that, that I realized, okay, nobody knows about sensory integration.

Jessica:

No one.

Rima:

Nobody is, like, all these kids have this issue and we have no way of really, I would educate parents and they would be like what? What are you talking about? And then they do anything I could read. And I would give them long winded articles. And it was just like, Okay, what is this? So it was at that point that I said, you know, what, I want to create something animated and fun that both kids and parents can easily understand information, complex information of this as much as possible. And that's when the SensoKids came into play. And I went to do my doctorate. And that was my doctorate was on animation in education, using SensoKids.

Rachel:

Very cool.

Jessica:

Okay, so then let's talk about SensoKids a little bit more so that we can know what it is.

Rima:

Yeah, so the SensoKids are four animated characters, and they represent the sensory systems that we work with. Each character, you know, we have touch, taste, all of that. But the two that most people don't really know about is vestibular and proprioception. So I took Vivian-Pro, and I gave them the personas of those sensory superpowers and basically what they do is SensoKids educate parents and children. We have the dolls in the clinic. So a lot of the times before playing with tactile play, we're playing with Theresa and if we are on the swing, we got to grab busy, we're gonna get on the swing. If we're climbing, we take Prone and climb the net So having an understanding of what your movements that your body is making, but relating it to animated characters, and I found that it's made things a little easier in terms of what I would usually do is in the beginning of a session. I would I would give the parents the opportunity there even in our emails, or welcome emails, the opportunity to go on our website and watch the intro video that we have on the SensoKids and basically, it would give them an idea of what set what the senses are and what sensory integration is. So when they come into the clinic, they kind of have an idea, and then we can get into questions if they have questions. It's my kind of creative outlet and way because that's, that was huge to me as a kid growing up. I was extremely creative, and I really was interested in fantasy, and I grew up in London, so it was a huge, you know, Harry Potter and very magical, whimsical worlds, you know. That was my passion and I wasn't able to go into that world because my family was kind of very, you know, doctor, lawyer, you know what you need to be and it's funny, because I married a director. I married someone in that creative field. So I get to exercise in through him. But it's interesting to me that you couldn't pull that out of me, it came out, even in OT. Whatever I would have done, that creative bug in me would have come out and I feel like when I look back now, I'm like, wow. It was just something that was super, super me to have something kind of magical and creative in the space of whatever it is I was doing.

Rachel:

Well, I feel like that's kind of the beauty of occupational therapy is you get to tap into that creative outlet every day in treatment and how creative you can be really depends on your personality and your background and you know, if you're a creative person. So I feel like it was meant to be that you became an OT, and went down that road and then on top of it wrote a book.

Rima:

have such a series of four books, and we have three more that we're coming out with. And my whole thing is, once all for books are out, my dream is to be able to take it into like a little television series, you know, like, educational TV series. That would be my dream and so you know, that's my, that's my goal, eventually, at some point, hopefully,

Jessica:

I would be so fun, just have like a series on Netflix all about the sensory systems and that'd be so cool.

Rima:

It would be so cool and it would really open the world's eyes to OT and what OTs do.

Rachel:

It's so needed. It really is.

Rima:

I mean, in my opinion, I think of Captain Planet, right? There's like earth, wind, fire, water, and then with our forces combined, where you bring out this magical being Captain Planet. So it educates you about the elements and in our environment. Inside Out. Pixar, they had, emotions, right? Happiness, sadness, joy, disgust. why are we not tapping into our senses? You know what I mean? We need our senses just as much as our emotions, you know, regulate our ability to function on a daily basis. So educating kids on your emotions is great, but why don't we also educate them on their senses and their sensory superpowers. So I feel like if those concepts were able to grow why can't this?

Rachel:

I think you should do that 100%.

Rima:

That's the next step up after we're done with the book series.

Rachel:

When are the books going to be out?

Rima:

I have an awesome, awesome illustrator who's in the Middle East, and I work with him and he's right now going through some procedures for some medical stuff that he needs to go through. So as soon as he's done with that, we already have everything ready. He just has to come through the illustration. So we're hoping that it's all done by we can start working on it again, early January. We're hoping by this spring, maybe we can get booked two out.

Rachel:

So exciting.

Rima:

All right, social media, we keep everything up to date on there and we like try to educate and let our social media fan base know like, this is what we're doing. This is what so all the updates will definitely be on there. When we get word of how close we are.

Rachel:

Good and we'll make sure that we link your social media and website and everything so people can follow along. Alright guys, let's talk a little bit more about today's sponsor Harkla. Like we said earlier, they make high quality products, things like sensory swings, weighted items, compression sheets, and supplements that everyone could benefit from.

Jessica:

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Rachel:

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Jessica:

Okay, stay tuned because at the end of this episode, we're gonna give you a discount for when you purchase an item from Harkla. Okay, so you mentioned that you use this in your clinic.

Rima:

Yeah.

Jessica:

So you own your own clinic? Is that right?

Rima:

I do. Yeah, I do.

Jessica:

Alright, let's talk about how that got started because I'm super interested in how you start your own clinic. Like I wasn't even happen.

Rima:

I always wanted to do like, and I did for a moment, I did a little class for West Coast University on entrepreneurship and OT, starting your own business. It was really tough because when I opened the doors. I'm the type of person I think perseverance is my strong suit. I go for things, I go full fledged. I don't sleep and go time, I have to have that vision to go, but when I have the vision, it's go time. When I had the vision of creating the clinic, it was within three month. I had become a contractor and interior designer. I had learned all about the vendors I needed to meet. I had gone to every doctor's office, pediatricians office, I had done everything within the span of around three months. I was just hustling every day. It was insane because, you know, when you first start a business, you think to yourself, like, oh my god, I put all this money into this. Am I gonna get any money back? Is it ever coming to grow? Is it ever going to be anything? And I literally, it was probably the scariest thing I had to do was get into, you know, starting opening the doors. But when I apply for the business license, it was like the boom, boom, boom after that. Because I felt like okay, now I have a business license, I have to do something. Like, okay, now there's the next step and the next thing you know, everything was coming along. But yeah, I opened the doors to the clinic and I was so nervous. I didn't get any calls. I remember the first day and I was just waiting for a fax from regional center or someone to send me a client and that was super nervous. It's me and my assistant and my dad told me he was like, go get a massage. Go relax and I was like, are you crazy? How am I going to go get a massage right now? I'm losing my mind, I'm freaking out, I'm so nervous. He was like, nothing is going to come to you with the state of mind. If you're going to be in this mind state, and if you're going to be so nervous and stressed and freaked out, nothing positive is going to come up. So my advice to you is go do whatever you have to do to relax and tomorrow, tackle this. So I did that and the next day, I got my first client. And slowly slowly Regional Center started sending clients and I went from me being the only OT to having another OT to have another OT to now I'm not even treating anymore. But having three OTs working at the clinic. So it was a five year journey. But it really went fast. The cool thing about it was, I thought all I needed to be was an OT, but I didn't. I learned that I needed to learn about law. I needed to learn about contracting.You know, we have suspended swings. How do the swings, you know, hanging from the ceilings? How are we keeping everything secure the design of the space? I became an interior designer for a minute and wore multiple different hats. I wasn't just an OT anymore. I was so many other things and that was the most exciting part was realizing that there was all in. Even when you read a book, I mean, this whole process of writing this big adventure with SensoKids, like I learned a new language. It's a completely foreign world that you go into. It's not just to read a book and you publish it. It's it's a whole world of different facets that you have to learn and understand. So. I got goosebumps when you were telling me about when your dad told you to go relax, I just feel like that is so important to keep in mind like you cannot progress and move forward when you are in that like almost like a fight or flight state. Right? You cannot move forward and I feel like when you have those experiences as an adult, as a business owner, as a woman, like it makes it so much better when you're training your kids. Because you can use those experiences to teach your kids like Hey, I was struggling with this and this is what I did. And it helped and it worked. And so that's why I'm here teaching you and helping you to be able to have the same skills that I have. Absolutely. When it came to writing these books. I had such a huge dream from the day I opened the clinic I knew I wanted to write children's books and I want to get it into a series and I want to do a bunch of things. But I was always pressured myself like when am I going to write the book? When I'm gonna read the book? What am I gonna write these books? What am I gonna get this done? Again, my dad was always telling you like it will happen when it's supposed to happen, don't force it, and I'm like what do you mean don't force it? I don't have time. Just wait and look, a pandemic happened. I had an OTD and an incredible OTP student, Dr. Ashley Bonzell, out who was, you know, looking for a place to do her residency, but with COVID, you can't go anywhere. So I told USC, I had a project, and I would love an OTDs assistance with it and she jumped on board. And we had all of COVID quarantine to collaborate, and go through the motions of how this could be structured. And you know, and I didn't push it. I didn't force it. I let it happen. But it was meant to organically happen.

Jessica:

That's perfect. I think I need your dad's advice in my life.

Rachel:

Yeah.

Jessica:

So you said that you have OTs working at your clinic for you. It's a little bit different in California than Idaho because do you guys have COTAs?

Rima:

We do have COTAs. I don't have any COTAs that we've employed. I have an OTD, who who's our lead OT, and she kind of like, runs everything and then we have two OTRs that are treating. We do have COTAs in LA, I just don't have any COTAs on staff right now. I think a lot of it also is the evaluations. We do have a lot of evals and we're in network with charter schools. So they also need to have that eval, and COTAs can't do it. So I think for that reason, I have but I mean, you know, down the line, if there's an opportunity for COTAs, I definitely would.

Rachel:

I'm just curious, like, what's it like working in California in OT? Like, I just I have this idea in my head of, of what it's like, but I'm just curious. It's gonna be different.

Rima:

It's really awesome. I think there's a lot of opportunity here. We have a lot of vendors. I don't know how the vendors are where you guys are. But we have like school vendors. We have contracts with insurance. We have regional centers. It's really grea and we're very heavily SI focused, which is super cool. I know, from what I know, I mean, I haven't worked anywhere outside of California. So I don't know too much of outside of California, but from what I've heard, some states are not very SI focused. So, you know, we do put a lot of emphasis on sensory integration. We have a lot of referrals. A lot of opportunities.

Rachel:

Yeah, I feel like it's growing in Idaho a lot like people are starting to recognize how big of a factor sensory plays, and we're getting more referrals as well for sensory kiddos and, and people are like, my kid has some sensory needs. Like that's the main referral. But with insurance, it's kind of frustrating.

Rima:

Yeah, I think it's really it's really great. California. OTs is really booming and growing. Lots of opportunities. I spoke to the doctorate class at USC recently and you know, there are a lot of budding, growing, great OTs coming out of there that have a lot to offer. Because I think, you know, I think we have a lot of positive stuff coming ahead.

Rachel:

Awesome. I love it.

Jessica:

Yeah. Well, and especially with your book and your future TV series, like it's all going to blow up.Let's put it out there.

Rachel:

Yeah. I want to know how you balance at all, as a new mom, as an entrepreneur as an OT, like, how do you do it all? Tell me your ways.

Rima:

I have a nanny who I love and trust and I think she's incredible. She has been with me for a while now and I think if it wasn't for her, I would not be sane or human. It's really, really difficult. I have so much respect for single moms and moms who you know, are doing this on their own because I mean, I mean, after you'd have a baby, with postpartum or with your hormones, and all the things that a lot of ups and downs and it was hard trying to have juggle everything. I don't know. I think it must be a personality thing, too. I think it's just the perseverance and the pushing and the feeling of like I have to accomplish. But don't get me wrong, I do also have moments where I'm like, I can't do this anymore. I'm burnt out. I'm dying. And then I think about it and

Rachel:

Yeah. I'm like, how am I so tired, you know, like, have I done so much? But after being a mom, I think it's also the mental, right? I'm constantly wondering, Is he okay? Did he eat? Did he this? Did he do that? So it's just overflow of thoughts and worry. Do you feel like I don't know almost like your therapy practice, do you feel like that has changed since becoming a mom?

Rima:

Yeah, I think after I got married, it changed. My husband is a director, producer. We go where his show is, where his opportunities is. So once I got married, I was working a lot while being with him on set. So wherever he was, I would go. Take my computer, connect with my girls, make sure everything was going well at the clinic, but I was no longer based in clinic. So after I got married, things changed, and then now that I have a child, I'm even more removed. But I decided that I love treating and I do enjoy it. But my passion is the SensoKids. My passion is the brand. So if I have an OT or lead OT that I trust, running the treatment aspect of the clinic, then I feel confident that that is being handled while I can explore my creative side with the SensoKids and that I can literally do from any city.

Rachel:

Yes.

Rima:

So I just need my laptop.

Rachel:

Yeah,

Jessica:

I like that you're able to like delegate. That's so important. You have to, yeah.

Rima:

But I mean, I've gotta be honest, it's very difficult. I think employees is the hardest challenge, you know. Be able to have employees that you trust, respect, believe in, connect with, you know what I mean? I think that's a huge, huge part and I think, if you have that part on lock, you're really set. But that's probably the hardest part.

Jessica:

How did you find employees that you could trust? What was that process?

Rima:

I had ups and downs and ups and downs with employees. Now I met a, I met a good space, you know. Obviously, COVID, everything got messed up and, you know, it was really difficult to keep everybody fully staffed. I think a lot of it is trust and communication. I think as long as you guys are communicating, and as long as you trust your staff, I think that's the biggest thing. Also, I control all the admin side. So I don't give them the responsibility of anything admin. Their responsibilities, you see your client, you write your notes, you're done. I make sure that everything from billing to vendor, communication, to initial client consults, I handle all that. So I still have my foot really heavy in the back end and I just expect them to treat.

Jessica:

You have been able to identify, yes, you're an OT, you love it, you've treated for years, you have that experience, and to be able to say, I'm still having my foot in the door, but I really love pursuing this creative side. Like, I feel like that's hard. As a therapist, I struggle with it myself to be able to say, I love treating, but there's these other things that I am really passionate about. And they can make a difference in so many people's lives, like your book series. It can really impact people and so I just, I bow down to you, because I feel like that's really awesome that you've been able to do that.

Rima:

Thanks. I think a big part of that, though, was taking what you love and finding how to be different. That was all it was for me. I saw multiple clinics. I saw everyone was the same. How could I be different? And once I created the SensoKids, I was now a completely different entity. I was an OT clinic, but I was so much more than that because I had the SensoKids. If you're an OT, and you and you have something that you love, whatever it is, finding what that is, and developing it is how you will kind of being able to still be an OT but have that other thing that you're super passionate. I think it's like you guys in the podcast, you know what I mean? Like, I think this is a great, this is a great idea. I remember when I saw you guys on social media apps, like senosry podcast, how cool is it? Like, that's such a great idea, you know, and a place where students, parents, you know, everybody can come to learn about some sensory integration. So I think, you know, you guys are also on to it as well, you know. You're setting yourself aside from being being different and doing something different.

Rachel:

Yeah, that's definitely what we've followed as we're ourselves, we're goofy. We're not the most, like professional on the podcast, but we make it relatable and people I feel like can kind of sit back and have a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, whatever and just like learn and hang out with us. And it's fun.

Rima:

I think that's so great.

Jessica:

Is there any like one piece of advice that you could give our listeners whether it's to the parents or the other therapists?

Rima:

It depends. If it's advice as an entrepreneur, if it's advice of some Mom, if it's advice, like I feel like.

Rachel:

There's so many avenues.

Rima:

There's so many avenues, but it for me, it would probably be as an entrepreneur, I would say, think outside the box. Be different in whatever it is you're doing, just find your avenue to stand out, you have to be original. The same thing over and over again, it's been done. As a mother, I would say be easy on yourself. I think for moms, it's really hard to compare parenting, compare, you know, ways of doing things, and there's the mom guilt, and there's all this stuff that brings you down. I think, trying to be optimistic and believe that you are the best mom for your child and your child is

Jessica:

That is great. here and is your child for a reason. And you are, you know, you're doing your best and being, not so hard on yourself. As an aspiring author, I would say, don't be scared. If you haven't written a book. Don't be scared, if you haven't done something. Step into it, give it a shot, give it a chance. I was so fortunate to have Dr. Bonzell on my team to flesh out ideas with you know. If that's what it takes to find someone who is just as passionate about something that you are passionate about and flushed out ideas. Don't be afraid, trust and believe in yourself, believe in your material and take the plunge. I think my whole life has been taking the plunge. Everything I did moving from, you know, from Europe to the US, some switching from hospital to peds, I means you know, taking all the steps that I've done to start the business to create. Everything was a leap of faith. Everything was a trust, like, I'm going to not be scared. I'm going to give it a chance. Obviously, calculated, right? You know, I'm not going to throw myself out without any like plan B. But create your boundaries, create your plan B, create your safety net, and then take the leap.

Rachel:

I feel like we could just chat with you and soak up all of your knowledge all day today. But thank you so much for letting us just pick your brain and share your wisdom with all of our tribe members, as we like to say so thank you,

Rima:

Of course. Thank you guys for having me. I think you guys are fantastic. I absolutely love what you guys are doing.

Rachel:

Thank you.

Rima:

I really, really appreciate you guys even for the knowledge that you're bringing about sensory integration and about OTs and what we do as a profession. I think that's huge. All of us combined, trying to get the word out and trying to get more awareness is so great. So I'm grateful to be in your company. Thank you guys for having me. So awesome.

Rachel:

Of course.

Jessica:

I'm gonna look forward to your TV show.

Rachel:

Yes, all right, my dear will talk to you later. Okay. All right.

Rima:

Thank you guys.

Rachel:

You're welcome.

Rima:

Bye.

Rachel:

All right, you guys. One more quick reminder about today's sponsor, Harkla.co. A family owned company that provides therapy and sensory equipment, along with supplements. We love them. We love their mission. We love their equipment and we love that 1% of each month sales goes to the University of Washington's Autism Center, which funds cutting edge research and sponsors scholarships for children with autism to attend a summer camp. How cool is that?

Jessica:

For real? I love it. They're great. They're local to Boise, which is really cool for us. But I mean, it's still cool for everyone else too. But if you're ready to jump in and check these guys out, go to harkla.co and you can save 10% on any of their products by using the code sensory. Make sure you let us know what your thoughts are and definitely go check them out. Okay, that was incredible and I hope you are all inspired by Rima and of course make sure to go check out her Instagram and get her book.

Rachel:

Yes, I love her book so much. I read it to Trip all the time. Even though you know it's a bigger kid book, but it still has so many great takeaways and we are so grateful that Reema took time out of her busy schedule obviously, to talk with us. So you can find everything in the show notes and make sure that you leave a review on iTunes for us as well.

Jessica:

Oh yes, those reviews on iTunes just do so much. Thanks for being here.

Rachel:

All right, we will chat with you next week.

Jessica:

Okay Bye.

Rachel:

We are so excited to work together to help create confident kids all over the world and work towards a happier, healthier life. Just a friendly reminder this is general information related to occupational therapy, pediatrics and sensory integration. We do not know you or your child therefore, we do not know any specific needs therefore, you should always refer back to your pediatrician and occupational therapist for more information.