Our First Episode—We Have No Idea What We're Doing

This episode will cover: 

• Naming this podcast
• Aly's dog obsession and her new Australian Shepherd puppies
• How Vanessa went viral on Tik-Tok
• Advice for strong-willed children
• Life as working moms
  
  

Transcript

[Ridiculous Momversations]

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Intro: Welcome to ridiculous momversations, where sisters Aly and Vanessa open up about their often hilarious lives as working moms. Get ready to laugh along, and enjoy candid discussions on raising kids, being good humans, and how to stay sane during this crazy parenting ride.

Aly: Well, hello there, and welcome to the podcast. We don't know what this podcast is named yet.

Vanessa: Okay, but we'll talk about the name, let's talk about some names.

Aly: My name is Aly.

Vanessa: And I'm Vanessa [Inaudible 00:00:44.00]. I'm sorry.

Aly: We have guest stars, which we don't really want to be here, but they're here, and they're our children.

Vanessa: Right.

Aly: So we've got guest stars Aubrey, Violet, and Harper.

Vanessa: Their ages.

Aly: Aubrey's currently dunking her Oreos in milk. [Inaudible 00:01:03.08] I'm sorry if you want us to be millionaires one day, we need to get this podcast going.

So really, the point of this podcast is just to show other people when we have ridiculous conversations, so we think we should record it. And the second is being a working mom, is realy hard; both of our husbands are working right now. And we also work, but then we have to watch the children.

Vanessa: Where's my break?

Aly: Yes.

Vanessa: That's what I want to know. When's the break happen? I've been waiting for literaly 13 years for the break, so that's how old my oldest is.

Aly: So we're sitting at the dining room table, the children are running around, and we're just going to do this podcast.

Vanessa: So what do we name it?

Aly: Well, so you want something, sisters?

Vanessa: Well, I don't have to have sisters, but it just seems like.

Aly: It just feels right, though.

Vanessa: I keep thinking of twisted sisters like the band because we're a little twisted.

Aly: What about like dumb conversations with the sisters? Just admit what it is.

Vanessa: Yes, pointless conversations with sisters.

Aly: That's actualy kind of okay.

Vanessa: Pointless conversations, okay conversations.

Aly: Sometimes it's funny if you just admit what it is.

Vanessa: Yes, okay. So right now, we're just going to go with pointless conversations. Just know that we have not researched that at all; it could already be taken. So if you are pointless conversations podcasts, and you already exist, we're sorry, and we'll change it.

We'll look that up after this. But for right this second, it's pointless conversations or twisted sisters. If that doesn't work out, maybe. We're not sure.

Aly: Right. Or if we still like pointless, but it's already taken, we'll just add two T's to pointless brand new show, totaly different.

Vanessa: Yes, it's completely different, not even close to this.

Aly: Add a Z.

Vanessa: Conversationz, exactly.

Aly: We add that to our topic. Oh my god, add that to our topic. But this use Z instead of S at the end, and what are our thoughts all are on it.

Vanessa: All right,

Aly: [Inaudible 00:03:05.09] All right, so let's start the conversation with what happened this week?

Vanessa: It's been a tough week, everyone, just know that.

Aly: So Allison, you decided three dogs was not enough.

Vanessa: Listen, I love animals, okay. And I like them in my house. Children, zip it down. But listen, it's hard to tell a two-year-old to zip it down.

Aly: She's also only eating the marshmallows out.

Vanessa: Yes. We gave lucky charms we were like that is healthy enough of a snack to keep her busy. But then she only ate the marshmallows. So I think any nutritional value is gone.

Aly: Wait, can we veer off topic real quick?

Vanessa: Yes.

Aly: How come one of the things you don't have to teach children is to only eat the marshmallows out of lucky charms? If you just don't have to teach that, everyone does it, it's universal.

Vanessa: No, I think it's like a survival technique. It's like our hunter-gatherer comes out, and you're like, it's like a two for one like you're hunting down the marshmallow, and then you're gathering them into your mouth.

Aly: Right. And no matter what, it's like this is her first time with lucky charms.

Vanessa: She knew.

Aly: And she knew. She tasted the healthy green part, and then she tasted the marshmallow and said.

Vanessa: If lucky charms were around in caveman days, we might have grown and flourished from just marshmallow proteins. So just know that. We could be a whole culture of marshmallows like just everywhere you go.

Aly: I do think it's fascinating.

Vanessa: It's marshmallow like the marshmallow fluff man would take a whole new meaning. Stay puft marshmallow guy.

Aly: I agree. I also don't think that lucky charms, you know how everyone's like there's not enough marshmallows to grain ratio. Well, unless I think it's all marshmallow, I don't think it can be.

Speaker: I saw Walmart selling all marshmallows one time.

Vanessa: Well, I'll see.

Aly: You're secretly recording us, and I can tell because you're holding your phone in a very awkward stance.

Vanessa: Like, it's not even slightly like we don't know what's happening over there.

Aly: You think people are realy listening. All right, let's get back on topic, over committed. So you decided you're going to get two new dogs, not one new puppy, two new puppies.

Vanessa: Listen, the sequence of events was this. My friend posted that her dog, two Australian shepherds, were going to have puppies. So I said to myself, Australian shepherd puppies, I've always wanted an Aussie. Aussie's for short for any of you Australian shepherd owners out there, you know, hashtag Aussies.

So I said this could be my dream come true, because she put a picture of the mom and the dad dog, and it's like two supermodels we're getting ready to have puppies. And I said are you kidding me? Two supermodels of the Aussie world are going to have this like perfect puppy spawn. So I said to her, her name's Kelly for listening, I heart you. I said yes, give me that dog. And so I got one of the puppies, she was only like a day old when I committed to getting her.

Fast forward like six weeks later, then Kelly says, you know what? I got a lot going on right now; I'm not sure I can handle another puppy myself. She's like do you think that you know anyone that's interested in the second puppy, and I said yes, I do know someone, and the someone is me, okay. Because who wants to separate sisters? Okay, number one. Look at us right here, we're not separated, we're together right now making a podcast. And number two.

Aly: How much did you pay for each?

Vanessa: I realy don't want to say.

Aly: Oh, was it that much?

Vanessa: I don't want to say because I thought maybe that'd be a little embarrassing.

Aly: Oh my god.

Vanessa: It was the range; it was less than a thousand dollars.

Aly: Less than a vacation.

Vanessa: Less than a thousand dollars per dog, which is a steal in the world of puppies. What I will tell you is I paid less for two dogs than I would pay for like.

Aly: That's what people said when they bought GameStop originaly.

Vanessa: So now we have a realy interesting mixture of dogs, and my friend Christy pointed out to me once that I'm kind of unique in the dog owner world because usualy people just get like the same dog breed. But I just sprinkle the love around.

Aly: You realy do.

Vanessa: So I've got two elderly pugs.

Aly: Okay, definitions they're not senior citizens.

Vanessa: They are senior.

Aly: They're only ten.

Vanessa: That's seniors; they don't live that long; they can kick the bucket any day now, any day. I'm coping frankly. The rainbow bridge is ready for Frankie.

Aly: Yes.

Vanessa: Anyway, the point is they're on special like senior blood checks and everything like that.

Aly: Realy?

Vanessa: Yes. When they go to the vet, they're like, oh, we realy need to do this.

Aly: I didn't realize that senior.

Vanessa: Yes, we need to go to this, do the senior blood work and blah blah blah.

Aly: I didn't realize that.

Vanessa: No. I took Frank for his checkup this week, and Frank just everyone knows that I'm not heartless, but he's naughty, he's a very naughty pug. He likes to lift his leg all around the house and pee on things, and it's awful.

Aly: Even though you train him, he just cannot be trained.

Vanessa: He just can't.

Aly: He's also very loud, he's a little crying if you can hear him.

Vanessa: I mean he's constantly making like a lot of snoring.

Aly: A lot of people don't like him.

Vanessa: He licks you all the time.

Aly: Other dogs don't like him.

Vanessa: You know how a dog comes up and licks you like on the hand, and you're like, oh, that's sweet. Well, frank gives you like a tongue bath, and like saliva, it's like dripping off your foot, it's too much. Oh god, another child came, that gets here, the four-year-old. Hi honey, okay, good he's here to get the other one riled up, awesome.

But my point is they're seniors; I have two senior pugs, a golden retriever, okay. She's the realy the opposite of the pug, she's realy smart, and I kind of call her like the supermodel of the family. And now two Australian shepherds.

Aly: We will be making a web page, so people can see the super model.

Vanessa: She is beautiful. Also, we do have an Instagram for the Aussies.

Aly: You're talking off of the point of this conversations.

Vanessa: No, I have an Instagram.

Aly: You have an Instagram; we just plugged in the microphone; how did you make an Instagram?

Vanessa: Do people make Instagram's for podcasts?

Aly: Yes, and they put the quote clip.

Vanessa: We already have 58 followers.

Aly: That's great.

Vanessa: On willow_and_tootsie.

Aly: Okay. We'll link that in the button.

Vanessa: Follow us, follow us on Insta.

Aly: The show notes, the show notes that's how you say it.

Vanessa: We'll put it in the show notes.

Aly: Of course. I don't know if anybody cam hears my four-year-old is over here sounding like a velociraptor. Okay, so then also today. Yes, Violet, you have a question? [Inaudible 00:09:57.26] is being loud, thank you.

Vanessa: I agree.

Aly: We're recording a podcast, so everyone needs to be quiet, okay.

Vanessa: Anybody wondered what we're doing.

Speaker: Mommy, I want cheerio.

Aly: Go get it.

Speaker: No, I want fruit loops.

Aly: Go get it; I'll open it for you; bring me the box.

Speaker: No, I want milk.

Aly: Okay. Bring me the box, and I will get it all set up for you.

Vanessa: That was actualy on here. Think of it as.

Aly: Context switching?

Vanessa: No. It was effort required to.

Aly: Correct children's manners, oh my god.

Vanessa: I just wanted to say that; I thought it was a good topic.

Aly: This is why the more kids you have, the less you care.

Vanessa: And the more assholes they become.

Aly: But it's kind of like they beat you down. Like you cared once if they brush their teeth every day at bedtime and in the morning, and now you're like whatever, your teeth. I can't care more than you, that's not my fault thing.

Speaker: The four-year-old has brought milk and cocoa pebbles.

Vanessa: We need a bowl. Aubrey, if you can assist us so we can make a podcast, that'd be great.

Speaker: I already gave you my microphone, what else do you need?

Aly: Anyways, teenager attitude. Okay. So then, we'll talk about what happened with my week.

Vanessa: Yes, please do.

Aly: Well, I'm not sure if I want to talk about it; I don't want people to find it because it was a little embarrassing.

Vanessa: They can't find it. Delete it.

Aly: Nothing's deleted on the internet; we should start with that.

Vanessa: Whatever, it's just what it is; it happens. Own it and explain it so that people understand in case it is fun.

Aly: I think it does show that I have some social media skills, and I know how to go viral.

Vanessa: Let's use it for good on our pointless conversations podcast.

Aly: So I was working out one day, and I was thinking about that guy who would like record himself watching people do recipes. And so I was like, oh my god.

Vanessa: Gordon Ramsay?

Aly: No.

Vanessa: Be quiet. Is it the Kailyn, the guy that's on Ellen?

Aly: Yes.

Vanessa: I love that guy.

Aly: Oh my god, I love him. So anyway, that's where my inspiration came from.

Vanessa: Okay, whoa, the fact that was your inspiration is hilarious to me because your attitude and Caitlyn's attitude were completely opposite, which will come into play later in this show.

Aly: Well, I didn't realize what my attitude was.

Vanessa: I think you were exhausted from working out. And I think we should also know, you were exhausted from working out, and you were not in your prime glamour state, let's also note that.

Aly: But I purposely did that because I wanted people to see the real me. So anyway, so I decided, well, if Caitlyn can watch recipes and comment and be famous, I can watch workouts and comment and be famous. And so I made a Tik-Tok channel called work out watching, where we're watching workouts together.

Vanessa: [Inaudible 00:13:01.02] willow and tootsie.

Aly: Okay. And anyway, one of my posts, I had just started it, and six hours later, it had 100,000 views, ten thousand likes, about a little less than a thousand comments, and a hundred very mean direct messages. I'm going to have a little bit of, it's very tough. So Allison, would you like to be on the podcast or just look at your Instagram?

Speaker: I just wanted to see who the new life was, sorry. Go ahead.

Aly: Anyway, apparently I was a little bit rude, which I definitely see now. I definitely was rude, I was not trying to be rude, but I was. It definitely came off as jealous. No, I don't even feel like it came off as jealous. [Inaudible 00:13:56.18]

Vanessa: I mean, you're just kind of like you didn't eat; she didn't eat that whole pizza. Like they show a pizza, and this girl is showing off her body. And I'm not joking; I don't even know women could have that many abs. I mean, it was like so chiseled, so perfect. Are you serious? Both of you are too, YouTube and children positive or negative?

Aly: No, it's not, I don't know. It's like a necessity. You guys will not have the YouTube on; just go and put the YouTube on your room, and then we'll come back out. We're almost done with the podcast anyway. [Inaudible 00:14:38.08].

Okay, but anyway, point is if anyone that knew you would know that you also strive to be physicaly fit, you're constantly working out and constantly trying to watch what you eat, and you're doing this whole thing with like veggies first.

I'm going to eat my veggies before I eat anything else, and I'm all over here like eating a cookie first. So I know that you take health and working out serious. But apparently, if you take all the context away, then people are thinking that you're hating.

Vanessa: Well, that was the interesting thing. Is that my show notes, like on my Tik-Tok, the notes were actualy very positive to her. I was like, get it, girl, dedication, hard work. I put all those things, but it's fascinating that people don't read that. They just watch the video.

Aly: And then the thing that's more fascinating is not only do they not read that but then they go off because like the internet is just full of like trolls.

Vanessa: It was crazy. The thousand public comments were ridiculously mean to me.

Aly: So like just share how many likes did you get?

Vanessa: Ten thousand, a little less than ten thousand.

Aly: And how many views?

Vanessa: A hundred thousand in six hours.

Aly: A hundred thousand views of her watching someone else work out, let that sink in.

Vanessa: On a brand new channel.

Aly: Basicaly, we are now at the phase where we are watching other people watching things. And that's our form of entertainment. It used to be that we would like somehow participate, but now we just want to sit back and like heckle someone else who is not even doing it, but they're also heckling, then you're watching the heckler.

Vanessa: Mark said that I roasted her, and so then I got roasted back in the comments.

Aly: Well, I didn't realy feel like it was a roast. Because I know you, and I know if you were roasting someone, it would have been a lot meaner. It would have been real bad; it would have been just like a river of tears coming out there. But people were saying the meanest things to you. They were saying like at least I don't look like that when I'm 40. P.S Vanessa's 31, okay, so that's awkward.

Vanessa: And they said my teeth were yellow, I was fat. I had a mom body. My hair looked terrible.

Aly: Did you even show your body? I literaly think you could only see yourself from the neck up?

Vanessa: You could, but they could tell from the double chin, apparently.

Aly: That's just hereditary; we can't help that. That's just part of our family heritage. Also, maybe you want to have a slice of cake here and there.

Vanessa: But as they say, I wasn't spreading body positivity, which I actualy do spread body positivity. I was just joking. It was literaly a joke.

Aly: One example was like, wow, that's a nice boob job. Now how is that not being positive? [Inaudible 00:17:15.03]

Vanessa: I actualy thought it was a realy good boob job. Seriously, it was realy good.

Aly: To be fair, they were so perky.

Vanessa: They were so; I mean, if those weren't a boob job, then that's the best boobs I've ever seen. Literaly the best.

Aly: I mean, maybe, the redhead is getting anxious. But in general, I feel like people have nothing better to do with their time than sit around and be mean on social media.

Vanessa: Well, that's the thing I realy want to talk about the podcast, is because people were literaly like you should go K-I-L-L yourself.

Aly: Oh my gosh.

Vanessa: Yes, it was so mean.

Aly: Even my daughter Aubrey, so she plays games like Roblox, and she's 11, okay. And she says that kids are constantly in there being like you should go kill yourself.

Aly: It's just not right. So I just feel like, I think what was good for me about this was one, it was like an eye-opening. And actualy, now, I wish I hadn't, so I deleted the Tik-Tok and delete all the videos because I didn't want it to impact my like professional image.

Vanessa: Or just continue to have the like misconstrued on what your original intent even was.

Aly: Right. But I do wish I would have like saved it or taken screenshots because of the things that they sent.

Vanessa: Or you send to people.

Aly: No, I didn't take screenshots of the DMs. Because the things that people publicly commented me on the video were so mean, and the things that people direct messaged me privately were horrendous. Like you should have consequences if you send somebody stuff, for real.

Vanessa: It's almost like we should be able to send that to the police as like a death threat, as an example. Because if there's no consequence, people are literaly just spewing the worst like venom nastiness.

Aly: I can't even tell you how mean they were. I mean, they were literaly.

Speaker: I have a photo of the death note that someone [Inaudible 00:19:09.10]

Aly: Okay, thank you, Aubrey. Let's talk about context switching.

Vanessa: Okay.

Aly: I can't get a thought out, guys. Like, I don't know if you've been in this podcast this whole time, if you've listened to this point, dear god, thank you, okay. Because we can't get a thought out without five other people inserting their opinion, thoughts, and or personal needs. Oh, I need cocoa pebbles right now, mummy.

Vanessa: I know; it's so frustrating as a mother. Especialy as like a working mom.

Aly: My brain is like real tired.

Vanessa: I'm so tired all the time, and I feel like they don't do it to dads; maybe they do.

Aly: I think that dads might be on to something. In the sense that just ignore it, and so then the kids just don't ask anymore.

Vanessa: Yes. I do think it's self-inflicted some part of it, for real.

Aly: But why can't we ignore it as moms?

Vanessa: I don't know. But then I think, do I realy want to ignore them? I don't want to be the mom that's like shoot, my mom never hears me, I don't want that to be on the.

Aly: Seriously, right.

Vanessa: It's like college's couch in 20 years. So I guess this is what I'm saying.

Aly: Are we going through all of these topics today? I thought we were saving them.

Vanessa: I don't know how long this is going to be.

Aly: How long is it already?

Vanessa: Only 19 minutes.

Aly: We got to keep talking.

Vanessa: Yes.

Aly: It got to be at least 30 minutes.

Vanessa: That's what I thought.

Aly: Okay. So the context switching, though, I do think it's a woman's superpower, but it is very hard. And if you have any tips, I guess leave a comment or message us because I haven't figured it out.

Vanessa: I haven't either. I know, like sometimes they say I'm pretty sure like Dr. Phil said this or maybe Dr. Phil stole it from someone else, but like you teach people how to treat you. Talking about the dads.

Aly: But so I think in some ways like we're teaching them to treat us like that because like they are interrupting us and we're like stop interrupting me. But then we still do answer their request, because that's almost easier to get it done and over, so we hope we can concentrate on something else what the problem is, then they just come up with more things.

Vanessa: Right. Oh my god, that's a good segue into our next topic that we're going to talk about, is the effort required to correct children's manners?

Aly: Yes, oh my gosh, children's manners.

Vanessa: Because I realy do struggle with that, where it's like I got into a fight with Harper, it literaly took.

Aly: Harper is two, by the way.

Vanessa: Harper's two, by the way.

Aly: Yes, so Harper is two. And she said banana, and I said say please, and she said no, and literaly, I looked at this clock.

It took me like four minutes, which I know doesn't sound a long time, but that is like a long time because it's just one item this happens over and over all day to get her to say please before I gave it to her. And it's like at some point, I mean, it's like I just want to give her the banana and be like, oh well.

Vanessa: You know what, I wonder? I wonder what it's like to have an easy-going child. It's like people with easy-going children.

Aly: Well, Aubrey's easy going.

Vanessa: Sometimes.

Aly: Well, she's also a twinager, which is on our list.

Vanessa: Yes, twinager, yes. But it's like the easy-going child; they're so awesome. But at the same time, you know what I tell myself. I say like when they start acting like that, okay, well there's a strong will.

Aly: I know, and that's the other thing, and then you don't want to break it.

Vanessa: And also I tell myself well, they're going to be a leader one day. That makes me feel a little better about it.

Aly: I do struggle with that. Like what so what's your opinion Allison between like fostering their strong will, and big personalities. Versus like teaching them manners, and being polite and like fitting into society.

Aly: Well, I heard this once, and it realy struck a chord with me. Where it's like you have to think of your children as flowers in a garden, and so logicaly, you would never expect to plant a rose, and grow up a rose and then have it turn out looking like a sunflower, right?

So you have to realize that your child is a rose or a sunflower, or I mean, maybe they're over there being a poison ivy, I don't know.

But I think you have to realize that like the seed is kind of planted, and we're there to just cultivate it to the best plant it can be and give it the fertilizer. But at the end of the day, it's got to grow on its own. And there's going to be certain traits about it that are just there.

Vanessa: Right. Robin and I were having this conversation about her son is very strong-willed against vegetables. Like he will try them, but he doesn't like them. And she's like, well, do I just force him to keep eating them, when he like clearly is communicating like I don't like this.

Aly: Okay. So I think that compromising can be your friend there. So I think that you could say all right, listen, I'm not going to give you like a whole plate of vegetables, but you need to eat four bites if you're four years old. I heard once from a pediatrician that they should have as many bites as years old that they are.

So if they're two, they have to have two bites; they're four, they have to have four bites. And that could be for like vegetables or protein or whatever because that way at least you feel like they have gotten some nutritional value, and like they're not steamrolling over you. But that's the thing, is like when it goes back to teaching them how to treat you if you give them their way all the time and that's just what they expect.

Vanessa: Well, right. And that's where the conversation about where's the line between like respecting their opinions and thoughts and feelings, and then also like you said like cultivating the type of flower they are.

Aly: Right. So I feel like I'm constantly trying to plant seeds next to my flowers, right? I'm constantly trying to put the fertilizer on there, but at the same time, maybe there's a heavy rain that day and [Inaudible 00:25:02.16]. So I feel like, for my sanity, I have to feel like I'm doing a good enough job as a mom that I'm planting the seeds, but I'm not going to force it all the time.

Vanessa: That's good.

Aly: You know what I mean?

Vanessa: Yes. Because there's most parents who are just like so forceful with your their kids, you see them, and you're like why? Like some of the moms, like I mean, I realy admire them, but like they don't let their kids pick out their clothes. And I have personal opinions about that, but it's just like why? Like, I just think there are some instances where you just need to let them.

Aly: Yes. Well, I'm like kind of a queen of compromise and stuff like that. So I feel like okay, how can I get them to feel like they've won. But then I still win. So I would take a situation like with the clothes, where they want to pick it out themselves.

And what I would do is I would have two outfit choices myself that I've pre-selected, and then they can choose from those two options. So that way, I feel like I've won, and they also feel like they've won and that they have some type of control.

Vanessa: Yes, that's good advice.

Aly: Because who wants to feel like they never have any control. If you're a type a personality or raising more of a type a, the worst thing you can do is make them feel like they have no control.

Vanessa: That's how I feel about the clothes. And I probably take it to the reverse part, like it's currently roaring. This is another good one. By the way, I thought we had a good conversation about that. No right or wrong, we're not judging anybody if you make your kids wear the clothes that they wear.

I mean comment, send us a message, comment, I mean we'd love to hear your point of view. Because I think also the less judge we become of people and the more open conversations like maybe somebody who does require their kids to wear something like has a good point of view. Maybe they have a point of view that we've never even thought of.

Aly: Also, I realy am tired of like mom-shaming each other and stuff like that. Because whatever works for you might not work for me. The other day, my son Beckett who's four, he realy wanted to pick out his clothes, right? Guess what? It was like 48 degrees outside in Florida, which never happens. But he wanted to wear shorts and a tank top. [Inaudible 00:27:21.24]

Vanessa: It is currently 54 outside,

Aly: 54. But in this particular day, we were going to be outside. I had to go take Aubrey to cheerleading. He was going outside; he was going to be in front of other people where they were going to see him. And I strongly suggested, thank you, Harper, thank you. But I strongly suggested pants and a coat; I mean, he said no.

And I think sometimes we have to let children experience the pain of their mistake. And mom always tells us, our mom to like let them have the pain while the cost is still small. So to me, the cost was small of him going outside, feeling cold.

And he literaly looked at me within maybe three minutes of walking into the gym and said I'm cold, and I said maybe you should have worn those pants and that jacket I gave you. And you know what the next time I said you need pants and jacket, he listened. But he had to have the pain of that mistake.

And I think sometimes we're so concerned of being right, because do you think I wanted to be prancing him around outside? All those other moms? I mean there's literaly like a line of moms in cars.

Vanessa: Did you bring a jacket with him, like in the car?

Aly: No, I did not, nope. I also knew it was going to be a limited amount of time that we were outside. But I didn't want him to like just grab it and be instantly warm; I wanted him to be like, that's your choice, let's see how it works out for you.

Vanessa: That's an interesting point.

Aly: But I knew he was only going to be walking into the gym and walking back out of the gym to the car, so it wasn't like you're going to be hanging outside until he gets hypothermia.

Vanessa: [Inaudible 00:29:17.02]

Aly: Like, he's not going to get like ill from it, but he did learn a lesson from that. And I think sometimes the best thing we can do as a parent is to let them have some choices, and then experience the mistakes while the cost is small. Boom, mic drop, okay, there you go.

Vanessa: Your pen.

Aly: It was a pen, but I've just tried to simulate a mic drop. I hope anybody else agreed with that. It felt right.

Vanessa: So I guess this is the pointless conversations podcast, TBD.

Aly: We think it's called pointless conversations.

Vanessa: I like it, though. It kind of feels right, pointless conversations with the sisters. Maybe a bit long.

Aly: I mean, if I was going to come up with a perfect scenario, maybe we don't have 5,000 children hanging around us while we're doing this.

Vanessa: But I think it sets us apart; the market is saturated.

Aly: The market is saturated with background noiseless podcasts. This really spices it up, okay.

Vanessa: It's real life, welcome to the real life. We didn't have no babysitter. We have 19 children, 15 dogs.

Aly: It looks like a game of Jumanji's getting played in my house.

Vanessa: Right. But we wanted to do a podcast, so we made it happen.

Aly: That's what we did.

Vanessa: I think that's a good lesson, it's like you got to just put it out there, try. Don't wait for the perfect day, because it isn't coming when you have these many kids.

Aly: No, it's just true; it is not going to happen.

Vanessa: And sometimes you got to do something for yourself, even if it's not like the way you imagined it to be.

Aly: If it was, I believe we'd be in a fancy studio, probably went to the blow dry bar first.

Vanessa: Oh my gosh, could you imagine like charcuterie tray in front of us, snacking our best snacks.

Aly: With a sound engineer.

Vanessa: With a sound intelligence.

Aly: Telling me to laugh less.

Vanessa: Yes. There'd be like an on-air right light on the walls. [Inaudible 00:31:04.03]

Aly: We'll have advertiser breaks because we had advertisers.

Vanessa: Oh yes, advertisers cared. And said, let me put my product in there, they're going to really sell it. Yes, so if you have a product, want us to sell, hit us up. Hit us up, we're available.

Aly: Pointless conversations.

Vanessa: Yes, with Aly and Vanessa.

Aly: That's right, okay.

Vanessa: Thank you for joining us on this first episode.

Aly: Yes, seriously, thank you for listening. What other topics are we going to cover that we have?

Vanessa: Oh, there's a lot of topics.

Aly: Let's just give them a little teaser before we sign off.

Aly: So recently, Vanessa and I have branched out into bible study hosts, okay. I know you probably couldn't tell that by the one curse word we threw out earlier, but we love Jesus too, okay. So it's interesting because it's one of those things where we're like, I don't know, can I host a bible study? Well, why not?

Vanessa: Why not?

Aly: Just like this podcast. I'm tired of saying no to myself.

Vanessa: Yes, me too.

Aly: This is my year of yes.

Vanessa: Even if Harper is spreading all of these lucky charms on the floor right now.

Aly: Yes, so we'll tell you about our adventures into being bible study hosts. And our tips and tricks for keeping it spicy.

Vanessa: Yes. It's also digital, it's half in person, half digital, which is kind of interesting.

Aly: That's kind of a new concept. So we're giving a virtual option because, guess what, life happens.

Vanessa: It's also only for women.

Aly: It's only for women. But we're in this age of coronavirus, and people having to quarantine and stuff like that.

Vanessa: Or just being busy.

Aly: Or just being busy, like Vanessa had to have work done.

Vanessa: Or Jim had to pick up.

Aly: Or Jim had to pick up her child from early release at school one day or go to a doctor's appointment. So we have a virtual component, which I've never seen in any of the bible studies. It's always like you have to drive across town 30 minutes and then drive back and figure out child care.

And like for me, my husband is a pilot, and his schedule is awful. Like I never know what his schedule is going to be until like the day before. And so it's been honestly impossible for me on a regular basis to like come up with child care and stuff like that. And then Vanessa's husband is a lacrosse coach, and so he's constantly busy after hours. So that's something we're trying to hopefully correct.

A couple of other things we have to talk about; this might come out of left field, everybody, but I feel like it needs to be talked about, and we will soon, charging cords.

Vanessa: Oh, a whole episode just charging cords.

Aly: And battery life, I mean just setting boundaries, whoosh.

Vanessa: Another thing is, oh, here's a good one. Is there a right way to eat Oreo?

Aly: Yes. We have to talk about how your daughter eats Oreos.

Vanessa: Yes. It's just a special technique, and she claims that it's right, none of us agree. And really, honestly, she's been a little.

Aly: We're not going to tell people, [Inaudible 00:34:00.21] And then oh, we also want to talk about like if you have a business name, but then somebody already took it, and then the business just adds like z to the end.

Vanessa: Right. Does it class it up, does it set you, what's that brand message right there?

Aly: And also even like the URLs that people are using nowadays.

Vanessa: Yes, oh, put that on the list. I mean [Inaudible 00:34:24.22]

Aly: I mean it's like .biz., .pizza.

Vanessa: I mean, I like it you don't, so we'll talk about it, we'll debate it.

Aly: And then, I mean, we got a couple of other things on here. Talking about raising teenagers and twinagers, which I didn't know this. You already have a teen when you have a twin; nobody tells you that.

But if you thought you had more time till you got to teenager phase, wrong. I got two teenagers, and they're 11 and 13. I thought I had more time till I got to that phase, surprise, I don't. And then another thing is YouTube and kids.

Vanessa: YouTube, not even just YouTube, but just like children and devices.

Aly: Yes, it's a good topic.

Vanessa: Because our kids, our friend's kids. Just kind of what's right, what's wrong. Again, no judging whatever, it's just pointless conversations.

Aly: Like what's our technique, what we use, or any type of constraints that we put on. And if I was to rewind the clock, ten years, I think I would do things differently than I did. Now I'm too far in.

Vanessa: Right. [Inaudible 00:35:37.20] thanks for joining for pointless conversations. We will see on the next episode when we pick these topics; oh my god, edited by Aubrey Cletus, age 11. And right, thanks for joining us.

Aly: We're so happy you joined us today; took a chance on listening.

Vanessa: Subscribe.

Vanessa: And honestly just held in there. [Inaudible 00:36:02.23] right now, they're having an airplane and car fight right next to me, does that seem distracting? Yes, it does. But here, I'm just trying to ignore it, ignoring skills.

Aly: Tell us what you think.

Vanessa: Oh, that's a good one.

Aly: All right, we're pushing the stop button.

Vanessa: All right, bye everybody.

Aly: Next week.

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