Today on The Clean Body Podcast, I talk to the founder of You Again Priya Mullvihill about bio-balance, bio-individuality, Ayurvedic medicine and more.
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Prior to launching You Again, I spent nearly a decade working in both public and private accounting, more notably working in senior management roles at successful high growth natural food CPG brands (RXBAR and Your Super). With a personal passion for product development and my CPG experience, coupled with navigating my own health journey with an eating disorder, malnutrition, and hormone disruption (with the use of superfoods + adaptogens), I decided to bring You Again to the market in late 2020, realizing the world is in need of functional comfort food.
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The other thing that, you know, I think it comes down to a lot, which is something that resonated with me is our guts. And so in our beta, the gut is like, the epicenter is our fire. It's our [inaudible] , it's what fuels us. So we have to keep our belly, our gut as happy as it can be. Iraheta is about. Welcome to the clean body podcast. I'm Lauren Kelly, a certified nutrition therapist, and soon to be specialized holistic cancer coach with a certification in cancer biology from UC Berkeley. I am so grateful that you're here. This podcast introduces you to the souls and brains behind some of the cleanest food beverage and lifestyle products on the market, because what you put on in and around your body matters from cookies, bread, and mushroom superfoods to adaptogenic lozenges, clean medicines, organic mattresses, and fluoride-free toothpaste. We'll explore how the brands came to be how scientific studies drove decisions about ingredients and materials. And most importantly, how the products support all the physical and mental microscopic miracles that occur in your body every minute of every day. Thank you for being here. Let's get this started. Welcome back to the clean body podcast. I'm your host, Lauren Kelly. Thank you so much for being here today is a pretty special episode. We are diving deep into Ayurvedic medicine. Now I Aveda originated in India more than 5,000 years ago and is considered the oldest healing science around. In fact, it's serves as the foundation and inspiration for many popular functional medicine, beliefs and holistic healing systems, including Chinese medicine, Western medicine, a lot of the healing modalities you've heard of over time aggravate and medicine is all about prevention of disease and it aims to help individuals create balance in their lives, through diet lifestyle, and the use of herbs sound familiar. The cool thing about it is it is also super personalized. I, our Vader recognizes that everyone is unique and specifically possesses their own pattern of energy. That's driven by physical shape, mental characteristics and emotional tendencies. Sometimes for some people, it sounds a little complicated and overwhelming, but in this episode, the founder of you, again, Priya Mulvihill, and I really break down Ayurvedic medicine and practices so that they're easy to understand. And even to start experimenting with many people, associate our Aveda with being woo hippy or predominantly for women. But that is not the case at all. This approach to living and wellbeing is beneficial to everyone, whether healthy, sick, old, young male, female, non-binary everyone else in between. It is so relevant and prevalent. Now I'll be honest. I haven't tried a strict Ayurvedic lifestyle, but I do dabble with different practices and belief systems that I find interesting and I believe are beneficial for me individually. And that's what all of this is about helping you find what works for you. Some of the practices that I do do that are rooted and I are Vedic medicine include oil, pooling, tongue scraping, dry brushing, and predominantly eating foods that help to cool my digestive system down because as you'll learn about the different constitutions during this podcast episode, my energy tends to be rather Pitta, which means I tend to be more fiery. So eating foods like mint, peppermint, cucumber can really help to cool my digestive system down and you'll learn why that's important. But the episode overall is just really super interesting. And the fact that Priya is brand new, again, helps to easily introduce Ayurvedic eating into anyone's diet is pretty darn cool if you ask me so before we get to it, I wanted to tell you quickly about the synchronicity show, a podcast for those who are looking to take their lives to the next level and learn powerful wellness business and life strategies that will get you there. It's one of my favorites. And in each episode, host Kevin Wafi deconstructs the lives of world-class performers, those at the Zenith of their careers. And he teases out the habits, routines and rituals necessary to live a happy, healthy, and fulfilling life. This is unlocking your true potential crafted into a recipe for your ears. The synchronicity show is available on all major podcast platforms and complete show notes can be found at Kevin [inaudible] dot com slash podcast. So be sure to check that one out. All right. Well, we're just about to jump into this. If you love the episode and you want to try you again, PREA is offering 15% off to all the clean body podcasts listeners just use the code, clean body, 15 at checkout, and the link to the website and where you can shop for products will be in the show notes. All right, if you liked this episode, please rate, review, subscribe, share it with a friend, do all the things, be sure to follow me on Instagram at holistic Lauren Kelly, or you can follow the podcast at the clean body podcast. There's a lot more to come. I am launching some one-on-one coaching services, as well as some webinars and master classes. I'm going to be providing free resources. So be sure to follow me on Instagram, to get all those updates. I won't keep you here any longer. Let's get this episode started. Hi, welcome to the clean buddy podcast. How are you? Hi Lauren. I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm really excited for our conversation. I'm. So excited and I'm glad that our world somehow collided and you found me, so this is going to be really fun. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course. So to get things started, I would love for you to share your personal experience been to health and wellness and where you are today. Sure. Yeah. I could probably go on forever, but I'll try and keep it, um, and to the main points, especially with relevant, but yeah, let's see, you know, I, my story kind of goes back over the last decade. Um, but really from a health and wellness perspective and how I kind of got more and more into it over the years is really just, um, my own experience as an endurance athlete and then, um, ultimately facing, you know, an eating disorder. So to kind of rewind past that decade, um, you know, I didn't grow up really that crazy about nutrition or health or, um, even like being like moving and running. I was a dancer. I did like Indian dance and grew up that, um, culturally, but it wasn't something that I was like as a child, like concerned about, or even really thought about body at all. Um, which, you know, now I kind of unpack and think it's a little interesting to think about, think about that. But, um, over the years, you know, as I got into college and I started working out more right. Um, and then at one point I went abroad to Spain and I came back and I actually like, felt really like, not great, like my body had changed and it really hadn't done that in a while. And, you know, I, I grew up a very petite person, um, was kind of like the small kid, the small scrawny kid. Right. So I was never one that ever have to think about my body in that way. And then when I went abroad and came back, I was like, Ooh, something just doesn't feel right. And that's kind of one a flip switched again. This was over a decade ago. I was in college. And at that time, I don't know if you remember, but there wasn't really much, like there wasn't any social media, but there really wasn't much just out there except in magazines. So I just like vividly remember picking up like fitness magazines and like young adult or whatever it was called. Right. Like health magazines and flipping through it and seeing, um, just like workout plans and meal plans. And it was all very calorie driven. Right? Like we hadn't really shifted too much to a macro nutrient micronutrient approach. Um, Alicia, you know, at that time 11, 12 years ago. And so that's when I was like, oh, okay. Calories. And then from there it started as an innocent, you know, um, I'll just start moving more, I'll start doing these like Jillian Michael workout videos. And then I'll start like, you know, holding to this like plan and that, you know, really started to spiral into just a very, very nasty pattern through there. I really picked up running. Um, and I love running. I still do, but that's really where I kind of got into more of like a competitive running, um, longer distances. I met my now husband through college and he grew up as a runner. So together it was just like, it's something that we enjoyed. And to this day I love running and I think it should have a place in my life, but it became really, really unhealthy, um, to the point where I was over-training under nourishing. And at that time I didn't think anything of it. I thought, you know, I'm doing what everybody does. You know, you stick to a plan, you eat really healthy. You, you know, monitor your calories, you set aside 15 almonds for your snack and then, you know, an apple for your other snack. I was like, that's what people do when they're like, you know, trying to maintain their body. But it was like, I didn't need to do that. Right. And I didn't need to do that plus everything else. So, you know, over the course of five or six years, I had gotten into this really bad, um, essentially eating disorder. And I didn't know it, you know, it's funny because I'm like, I think I'm fine. You know, I eat like I don't just drink water all day I eat. But, um, what people don't realize, and I didn't realize is that's not really all that is what quote unquote eating disorder is. You know, there's so much more to that. Um, friends and family tried to step in and eventually, um, it came to a little literal breaking point. I was running in the Boston marathon a few years ago and I split my tibia in half during the race pull out around mile 24 and you know, both figuratively and physically, it was, uh, it was a wake up call and, uh, uh, you know, an interesting experience. And through that, I was like, Hey, something's not right. I hadn't had a period in, you know, close to eight years. Everybody was like, oh, it's okay. You're, you know, you're a runner, that's normal. I'm like, oh, it's normal. And then, you know, later to find out that's not normal. Um, phones were deteriorating, hormones were all off. My gut was suffering. And so okay, I need to get things in control. And, um, I saw, I went out and saw a functional medicine practitioner and I said like, you know, things are just not feeling right. And, and that's really how it kind of started to go into a right the better direction. And I started like healing, healing, those thoughts, healing, that lifestyle, healing, everything from within to kind of get my body in a more balanced place. Oh my goodness. That's quite the story. And yeah, you had a bevy of nutrient deficiencies and hormonal imbalance, all that going on. I am kind of curious about a couple of things. If you don't mind sharing, first of all, what do you think was like the root of your eating disorder? Were you fearful of eating certain foods or were you just super in control of what you put on your back in your body? Did you not? You know, what, what do you think was the basis or the core of your eating? I'm actually so glad you asked that because over the last years, I've started to think more and more what that was. Because like I mentioned, I have like a body image, you know, like a bad idea of what my body image was for a long time. What I think it was is, was holding myself to an identity and a validation. So once I kind of got into this pattern and I was, you know, losing that way, I mean, at one point I was, and I don't want to talk too much about weight because weight is just a number. And, you know, I don't even focus on that now, but back then, of course, you know, you know, I was down to like sub 90 pounds and it was just, you know, people were seeing me and they're like, oh wow, you look so strong or you run so fast, you know, keep leaving just, you know, one that race or things. People started identifying myself to a fast runner or to somebody that is the healthiest eater. Right. It would be working in a corporate environment and like, you know, maybe we shouldn't go out to eat there because you won't find anything eat, you know, is like the healthiest eater or, you know, I'd come into work and they'd be like, how many miles did you run today? And I'd be like, oh 11. And I wasn't being like, braggadocious about it. I was pretty humble, but I realized that I started associating myself to that identity, if that makes sense. Right. I was like, I'm am this person. And so I have to hold up this ideal. I have to hold up this, you know, I only healthy things when I go to a wedding, like I'm not the one that would eat a dessert. So I think that kind of just continued to be this box that I lived in and I had to live in and that's, it both fueled me from a very, you know, like messed up perspective. But it also like held me in a place where I couldn't, I didn't feel like I could get out of it for awhile. So. The other question that I wanted to go into is I'm just curious, you know, obviously there were a lot of nutrient deficiencies and hormonal imbalances, so what did a typical day of your diet look like? Oh, that's a good question. Yeah. Um, you know, what's interesting is that I wasn't, I did, and I have always been, like, I would say over the past 11, 12 years, and it's really kind of what eventually led to a more healthy relationship. And me watching you again as that I did, I was curious about nutrition and I did understand what things were, but I would, I think I just didn't eat enough. Right. So my breakfast would probably be like a smoothie, which is a smoothie now, too, but it would probably be like, just strawberries and like just, you know, a protein powder, right? Like, and maybe like this much of a banana, like, I was just very, very particular about what it was. And then my snack, like I said, would be like 15 almonds and like four raisins. And then like, my lunch would be some sort of just like vegetables. I went through a pattern of like, you know, then at one point I was like a strict vegan. And then I was, uh, you know, I kind of navigated all along the place. So I really was deficient in calcium. I was efficient in proteins. I was deficient in all And, and healthy fats is the main thing that really was, um, something that kind of took away my menstrual cycle completely too. So I don't know if that answers your question, but it was more so like this really small portions and really like limited, um, living within, you know, a very rigid plan. Yeah. Well, when you become so obsessed about the quantity of calories versus the quality of calories, it makes a huge difference. I think so many women and men went through that in the early two thousands or nineties, or even eighties, because so much focus was on calorie intake. And if you wanted to lose weight, eat less calories. Like there were even diets that were like 600 calories a day, you know, like that's crazy. Or you would stuff your body with those, like only a hundred calorie, low fat, low sugar crap. And it's all just like chemicals and toxins. And you're actually getting no nutrients. And I mean, it's, it's still persist today. Like I've had my friends who have children, you know, sometimes they'll laugh and be like, oh my gosh, she's like a banner child talking about how low the calories are and how good the ingredients are. And I'm like, okay, we need to flip this script. It is not about how low the calories are. It's about the quality of the calories that you're intaking. And also just in general, like we, as humans don't need to take up less space in the world, you know, we don't want to get smaller and be smaller and, you know, be less seen. And I just like that, that narrative that has kind of been taught for a couple decades. No, I completely agree. And not to like jump head or anything, but like, I think it's still kind of there because we'll get questions like, you know, your cookie has X amount of calories. Like, you know, like I could go and get this cookie, like a hundred snack pack Heller that only has a hundred calories. And it's like, okay, but it's not about that. It's about the ingredients. And it's about the macro and micronutrients that body with. So I think there's still a lot of work we need to be doing and the society to really educate people. And even the older generation, I mean, my mom is still like how many calories were in that? I'm like, mom, I don't get not like gotten past that yet. I know it's crazy. Um, I mean, my family members still drink like diet, soda and stuff. And every time they take it out, they're like, we know Lauren. We know, and I'm like, okay, you are consciously if you are educated and consciously making that decision then. Okay. But it's painful for me to watch, you know, so what came after then obviously you went to a functional doctor and you went on your own journey with superfoods and adaptogens and I'm assuming I are Veda. So what did that look like? Yeah. So eventually it kind of came to a point where, you know, fast forward a year or so after that injury. And I was realizing that things weren't right at that same time, um, you know, to be completely transparent, honest, it caused a lot of rifts between my like relationships, you know, with my family, my husband, friends, like I wasn't, you know, wanting to do a whole lot of things. And especially from a hormonal aspect, I mean, like, you know, this, like you're not having a healthy menstrual cycle. You have a zero libido, you have zero like desire, you know, you're just not believed there as a female. And so it did cause like a lot of, um, you know, things that I really needed to assess and work on from a relational relationship standpoint. And so that's really what was one of the things I was like, okay, I need to go and get help. Like this isn't only affecting me, it's affecting my loved ones. Um, and so I went first to see, you know, a functional integrative doctor regarding my menstrual cycle at the same time, because I was having really bad gut issues. And so you like your hormones affect everything. So just the fact that right, I wasn't, I was nutrient deficient and a lot of my hormone activity was just stalled. I wasn't producing the right enzymes to break down food. I was having a lot of inflammation. My liver wasn't processing down, um, foods properly. So I was starting to feel that. And so that was really the first catalyst into like me getting help. It wasn't so much like, Hey, somebody helped me. I have an eating disorder. It was more like my gut is bothering me and I need to fix my hormones. So that's really where it started. Um, and through that, I, you know, got, I saw, um, a gynecologist and they diagnosed me with quote unquote, like what is called hypothalamic, amenorrhea my saying that right. Probably know better than I am. Okay. Um, well it's basically where you are or brain, your hypothalamus is not sending the right signals to your reproductive system to end straight or to have your full cycle. And most of that is caused by a number of things, but stress is the biggest one. So it's either just overall stress. So sometimes people are going through a really stressful period in their life and they might notice that their menstrual cycle shifts or they lose it, um, or physical stress. So a lot of times, in my case, you know, it was one the stress of not nourishing enough. And overexercising a lot of the times endurance athletes as females. They have to be really careful because they'll lose their menstrual cycle because of the physical stress. So that's, what's hypothalamic, amenorrhea, um, a lot of boys to kind of heal that, but it starts with the mind nourish nutrition and the gut, right. They all go hand in hand. Um, and so through that, you um, specifically designed to heal the relationship, the relationship with food, um, which was kind of step one, because again, all of that's connected. And then again, through that process of healing, those hormones, I was introduced to superfoods and adaptogens. So again, I wanted to be really careful about what I was putting into my body. So I wanted it to be really natural and holistic. So I was introduced to things like ashwagandha and Maka and Rhodiola, um, all which are, you know, are based plants that have a health benefiting property on your body. They're called adaptogen. So they'll adapt to the stressors within your body to kind of tackle them and bring you back into, and these have been around for ages and ages, you know, dating back 5,000 plus years ago to India and a study called IRA beta, which I'm sure we'll talk about here in a second. But, um, that's when I started being introduced to them in my own diet and through that with super curious and started doing my own research, um, and realized that I was actually always exposed to it as a kid, um, you know, growing up, growing up here, but with an Indian heritage, it was just always around me learning about IRA beta, just not realizing it was what it was. Um, and so I kind of went down that research and understanding more and more about it and what that meant. Um, and that was kind of that journey. And I'm sure that opens up the next question. What is it and how does it impact everybody's life, right. Yeah. Well, before we get there, because I think we're going to spend a lot of time in iron Veda. The one of the first things I see when I go to the you again, website is bio balance and this isn't a term that I've heard a whole lot of people use before. So I'm curious what your definition of bio balance is. Yeah, it's funny. Cause I don't know that it's an actual term. Uh, we kind of, we kind of, I think married two words together, one being bio-individuality individuality and the other being balanced. So bio balance, um, the whole idea of that really, and kind of through my understanding and healing, my relationship was realizing that we're all unique and that we're all bio individually different. Right. So what that means is that each one of us is made up of different chemical energies, both like scientifically and also, you know, just, um, in theory I guess, but we're just made up differently. And so what works for you, isn't going to work for me, works for me. It's not gonna work for my neighbor. And that's like the whole idea that I think over the last several years in the diet world we have gotten severely away from. Um, and I think that's a huge problem that we're facing right now. That whole idea of like personalized nutrition is really what we need to start getting back to. And so that's the idea of bio balance. It's bio-individuality so you are all different. Everybody's different. We, as a company, we as myself, we understand that. And then there's also balanced. Like how can we kind of come back to balance in a place so far out of balance, both mentally with our gut hormonally, like everything, right? It's just a, it's a crazy world we're living in and it's, what's understandable, but that's really what that whole term bio balance comes from. Yeah. I mean, I love that. Um, you're so right, that everyone is so unique and individual in their body chemistry and what foods work well with their body and what foods don't and the different enzymes that they have, you know, there's genetic mutations that cause you to not digest brussel sprouts the same way as someone your neighbor could. So yeah, absolutely. I think the personalized nutrition is the route that we need to go. And of course there's the foundation, right? You can build a foundation of gut health and that will help improve your, the way you live your life in general. But as you go further down and continue walking that path, you start to discover things about yourself that work, and even like ashwagandha a, an adapted gin. Some people it helps relax them and make them really calm. And some people, it gives them energy and can be a stimulant. And again, that's the property of ashwagandha it's based on what your body is lacking and what your body needs, but that just kind of, um, visualizes the differences in everyone's body. What I need is different than what you need. And there are superfoods and adaptogens out there to help bring you to that bio balance. Exactly. You just summed it up so well, I should have just like wrote that down. I love it so much. And that is literally like what the premise and idea of IRA beta is. It's to honor our differences and the individual that we're all individually, um, unique really. So let's dive into Iraheta then it's not something that, as I kind of had told Tibet told you previously that I have studied in depth, I've read some things. I listened to some podcasts prior to this interview, but I am also new to IRF Veda, and I find it super fascinating. So I'm going to let you kind of take the stage and just introduce what IRA Aveda is, and then we'll go a little bit deeper into the principles and some of the practices with an IRA Veda. Sure. Yeah. Um, and the thing that I, you know, I want to start by saying is that iron Meda is something that you're not the only one that hasn't been, isn't too familiar with it, most people aren't, and that's really why we want to, you know, start to introduce it, but in a way that's really, um, you know, ground level, like nobody here is expected to be a major expert. We don't expect our customers or people that we're, you know, supporting to be there either. And the great thing about it is that when we talk about functional nutrition now or functional medicine, um, it's really your beta. It goes, ha they're the same thing. It's just, we're stripping out that like crazy, weird, unique word. I R Veda and we're it's functional nutrition, but, I, beta is a, um, form of medicine that has dates back over 5,000 years ago to India. So in Sanskrit, which is the, um, literature of Hinduism, it means the science of life. So, um, it really is about the entire ecosystem of the body, right? So the mind body soul connection, and you focus on that through lifestyle, through mindfulness, through nutrition. So how you're feeling your body plus how you're interacting with, um, everything around you with nature. And so it's really made up of, again, the idea that we're all chemically different and the properties of the earth and do everybody's, um, makeup, if you will. So really to kind of give you the overarching principles beta, there's really three elements, or excuse me, five elements, that's air, water, fire ether. And I think there's just four. What did I say? Air water, butter. Layer, ether. There is one more, I just listened to it this morning. There's definitely five. So the fact that we're all basically born differently because we're born with different parts of these elements, right? And so when we think about that, um, we think about, you know, the energetic beings that we are. And so Irene is really all about energy. It's about Pronto, which is life force, breathing, energy, what fuels us. The other thing that, you know, I think it comes down to a lot, which is something that resonated with me is, um, our gut. And so in I, our beta, the gut is like the epicenter. It's our fire, it's our Agni. Um, it's what fuels us. So we have to keep our belly, our gut as happy as it can be. And that's really what everything around Iraheta is about. So how you're moving your body, what you're putting into your body, your relationship with your mind, with the earth, all of that is about like how you can like digest, how you can absorb everything the best into your body. Yeah. That's what I hadn't heard that I found really interesting is it's not about what you consume. It's about what you digest. And someone made this really interesting synonym of like a banana peel. And I related to this because I'm like a gut health coach and I was having gut health issues last week. And I, I still am trying to figure out what that was caused by. But the synonym that they drew was that imagine leaving a banana peel in your car and you leave it there for a day, it's going to kind of stink. If you leave it there for a week, it's going to really stink. And if you leave it for longer than that, it's going to turn into something else. It's going to melt into your car. It's going to create this terrible odor. It's going to create toxins, all kinds of stuff. And that's what happens when we consume certain foods that don't work with our bio-individuality is they get stuck in our digestive system and they create this really inflamed, gassy, toxic environment. And you feel that in the way that you show up in the world every day. And so I thought that was really interesting because usually we talk about, you know, what you put in your body matters and you don't really think about like, but also what you digest is even more. Yeah. That's exactly what I made us says. And, and, and it's that exactly. That's really what made me appreciate it so much more, uh, was that, you know, that I was discovering, it was, that was when I was really having some digestive issues too. And I was realizing, okay, you know, I can try and like, you know, eat all these healthy fats because my hormones need it. But if I'm not digesting it because of X, Y, Z, the root cause, right. Which you need to peel back the onion to, um, then it's doing me nothing. It's not, I'm not absorbing those healthy fats. It's not going to help me regain my menstrual cycle. So you have to really figure out one the root cause and two, like how your body is digesting everything. And that, that's the, like, that's the core of iron Veda. And, you know, it's really coming from the inside outwards, right. When you're talking about the body. So all those five elements that we listed here, water, fire, ether, which is basically space, and they are then brought down into three energies. Right. So it's like Vata, Pitta and Kapha Kafa okay. Yeah. Um, so I would love for you to kind of break these three energies down. Yeah, totally. Yeah. I love it. It's yeah. They're called energies. Um, or an irate it's called constitution. So like your constitution, what your, um, you know, made up of, um, and they're kind of like body types, right? So like the, the Vata type, that's the elements of air and ether. So air and space, um, if you think about it from a, you know, they break it down in both mind and bodies from a mind a standpoint when in one, not in balance a little bit more anxiety, worrisome, um, you know, fast moving thoughts, you know, it's, it's really like, you're just imagine you're up in air, right? Like you're in this balloon, you're just floating all around and you can't come down to get the ground. That's like a Vata that's imbalanced, right. Because that's their, their, their air and their ether elements. They need to be grounded to be more balanced. So that's, from the mind perspective, from the body perspective, um, they tend to be more on the leaner side. Um, you know, not super high in muscle density or, or, and very low in bone density. Um, more, I don't want to say frail, and as I described these things, it's very matter of fact. So in thinking, one thing to mention is now we've kind of associated words with like good or bad as it relates to body image right. In India and I, our beta, it's just matter of fact, it's like, you're frail. That's not a good thing. That's not a bad thing. That's just matter of fact. Right. So I just wanted to kind of preface that, but that's really that bottom body type, um, creative mind, very, you know, a lot of fun ideas, very much, um, energetic in that way. That's how they express themselves. Um, but you know, from a nutrition standpoint, again, going back to those two elements, that's how, you know, you kind of, if you were to go to an Ayurvedic practitioner, they a pulse test and they would also grab your hands and they could kind of tell just through that your energies, they would say, okay, if you're a, you know, a bot to type, you need to be focusing more on grounding type ingredients, right. You're up in air, you need to find your way back to ground. So those are things that are in the root, those things made in the ground, like sweet potatoes, like fruits, like, um, you know, warm grains, things that can kind of like make you feel a little bit more, um, earthy, if you will. So I don't know if that makes yeah, but that's like, kind of how you think about it. If you're, you know, visualizing what that looks like. Right. It's very much like an applied approach to how you can really think about your nutrition. Um, so that second energy you mentioned is, is called Pitta. They're what I like to call, like the fiery ones. So their elements are a mix of water and fire. Um, and for them, you know, on the mind side of things that they're like go getters, like mission driven, competitive, like work, work, work, they love it. That's what they feel. That's what fuels them, you know, they're like, okay, from step, like they're super planned, they can stick to a plan. Whereas like a Vata they're like, yay. I made a plan. And then like, they never follow their plan. Right. Like that's Pitta selves very much. Like this is like how I get from a to B. And I'm going to do that every single day, every single day, every single day. Right. So they're very diligent and type it exactly. But like when it goes too far, they can, you know, sense that fire elements, so anger, um, inflammation, things like that, that just aren't, aren't serving them well. Um, but from a food purse perspective, again, thinking about that fire, how do you keep them calm things like peppermint, things like cucumber, things like cooling fruits and melons that are a little bit more balancing, um, to that heatedness, that's already within them. Is there a body associated with that. One as well? So the body element, um, they're kind of in that middle. So like, they're, they, they can lean either way so more so easier to put on the, the, the good muscle mass, like, whereas like a Bata should really focus more on yoga, lighter movements because their mind is always racing. They need to slow down. Right. Um, and like we talked about stress and physical exercise onto your body, right? Like your mind and your gut. So what the pit to style they can do more of that, like weightlifting or the training or the CrossFit, you know, they can kind of fit more into that, that typical gym lifestyle. Um, again, they might, everybody's different. So within those buckets, um, and then that last one that cuff us, that's going to be the, the earth and the water element. So they're already really grounded. Um, and they kind of are the opposite of that. First one. I mentioned maybe being a little bit more lighter, um, from a mind perspective, they're like mother Teresa. I like to say they're super warm, they're super friendly. Like they just are like, you know, giving to everybody. Um, but when they're imbalanced, they can be more reserved. So like detach themselves, you know, like kinda like to hide out a little bit more. Um, and from a body perspective, there may be like a little bit more of that built body, right? Like a little bit more sturdier. Um, and for them, from a nutrition standpoint, it's kind of focusing on those lighter foods because they're already pretty grounded and they can kind of do with a little bit more physical activity and a little bit more lighter foods. What are examples of lighter foods? Um, cool. Like, like cooler foods. So like oats, for example, you wouldn't think oats would be light, but they are pretty light. Um, things like, um, like they, they don't need to maybe wouldn't need to incorporate, you know, as my sweet potatoes or root vegetables, it could do pretty well with the cruciferous vegetables, assuming that their gut can handle that. Um, and yeah, some of those lessors, less starchier vegetables. Okay. It's really interesting. And I'm kind of curious if you can, like, do you shift between, are you just one, like I am a Leo, you know, that is my astrological sign, but can you, I probably align most with PETA. Is it Pitta? PETA. Okay. Um, but I feel like I have some Vada in me, like, I'm not always, like I make a plan B to B and that's how I'm going to get there. And that's what I do. And I see it all the way through. I have a little bit of Vada in me also. So like, can you have multiple or can your energies and those elements change throughout the day. Totally. You can, and you should have all of each element. So, um, we're essentially born with one and that's called our [inaudible] . So as you're born, if you think back to like, when you were a kid, just scaredy cat, so I really associated more with that, like that bot to a persona, even as a child. Um, so you kind of have one that you will always come back to. So for Pitta , but you should, throughout your life, kind of bring in So it's good to have more of that, what they call that try dosha balance. Right. Because if you're only one thing, the likelihood that you're going to be imbalanced with that one, right. Let's say you're always typing at one point, you're going to get burnt out. Right. And so you need to have those elements of a calmer, like I need to just ground, I need to just chill lifestyle or need to, you know, you at the right time or the right point in the day or throughout your life, you'll be like, okay, I kind of need to pick up the intensity a little bit more. So yes, you should flex one throughout the day. Um, and to throughout your life. So you might realize, you know, five years ago, you're a little bit more of X type, and now you're a little bit more of this one. So it's going to continue to weave. And that's the beauty of it. It's just how your energies are flexing. Yeah. I would think that's really relevant for women as well. Obviously we go through cycles and they feel like EULAR flight phase is when we're most creative and most motivated and ready to go, go, go. And as we get out of that phase, we get a bit more lethargic and a bit less creative. And so those energies shift naturally because our hormones are shifting. So knowing how to, that's why there are, you know, foods you should eat from day one to 15 of your menstrual cycle and foods, you should eat from 15 to 30 of your menstrual cycle, so that you're supporting what's happening in your body, not just your hormones, but if you believe in Ayurvedic principles, also the energy and the elements are shifting through your body. That's a really great analogy because it's essentially, it's the, it's the same thing, right? It is exactly the same thing in that, whether it's, you're thinking of it from a cycle sinking perspective or Ayurvedic perspective, they both overlap too. So like I rebate is basically up here and through that, it's sprinkled its principles down into what we're calling cycle sinking or functional medicine, or, you know, just whatever it might be, personalized nutrition. It's all basically under that umbrella. So that's a great analogy. Well. It all started with our Aveda. It's the most ancient, like nutrition wisdom. I know Chinese medicine was even built off of ire Veda. So it really all goes back to there, which I had never known and I think is really cool. But another word, I also hear a lot and I don't know what it is is Prada. What is yeah. Prana is like, it's, it's life force, basically. It's another term for like energy. You'll hear it in yoga a lot, like, you know, um, focusing on chrono and that's breath. So what's feeding our life force. What's feeding our energy is, is usually breath. So a lot of, you know, pranayama is something that I practice daily. A lot of people, um, who have studied higher beta or even just spiritual spirituality think of pranayama. And that's like a breath work practice can be whatever, you know, there's more, um, rigid ways of doing it, but I basically just have my own breath work practice that I do and that's called pranayama. Um, and so it's really the breath. Um, the breath calms the mind, the breath calms digestion, the breath, you know, brings us back to ourselves, grounds us. And so that's really like another like center of our beta and, and how we're reflecting that energy. Um, throughout the day throughout our life, you know, breath work, plus natures is two things that really feed that Prada. Hm. So if you wanted to increase your control, your Prada essentially would do that through being really and connecting with the environment around you and also being mindful, I assume of what you're putting in your body so that you can be balanced internally so that your life force can be living as brightly as possible. Totally, exactly. 100%. And I think like, as I talk about it and sometimes hear myself talking about it, I feel like it can come off as so woo woo. But like, it's really the idea that we're all a part of this, you know, like same ecosystem, right? Like we're living, plants are living. And again, I say that and it's like, oh my gosh, she's crazy. But it's the, it's the same. Like we need to be in touch with earth, with what brought us here with, you know, what we're made up of. And so that's really what Prada is, is about getting back in touch with. Anyone is listening and thinks. It's crazy that we say that everything has energy. Everything is a transfer of energy. Like just do some research into trees. Trees are some of the most fascinating things that we have on this planet because of their root system and the communication that they have through that root system. So like when a tree is dying, it knows it's dying and it can send all of its nutrients, hundreds of miles away from it to baby trees to support their growth. Like how freaking crazy is that and beautiful is that, you know, totally. Beautiful. And I think there's things that are starting to come up, which I appreciate so much that are bringing people back to like, just think about like, have you ever been like, oh my gosh, I'm so overwhelmed. I just need to go for a walk or like, I need to go to the mountains and just like reprieve. That's like our body and nature telling us that we need to get back into nature. Or now we're starting to hear things called grounding. I don't know if you've heard of it, but I'm happy to chat about it. It's really where you just go outside in the morning and put your bare feet and dirt and grass in the sand, right. There is actual science behind that, the energy that's coming into your body from earth. And so it's not just, you know, things that are like believed it's, it's true. Yeah. That's a huge practice. And other places in the world like forest bathing is essentially the same thing. It's just getting into nature and connecting with nature. And there are also studies coming out that show that even just the smell of pine helps to relieve ADHD and anxiety. And you know, it is so we are so connected to everything around us. And we often only zone in on one thing, which is like this little computer that we have in our pocket. And we forget what's around us. But if we can put that down, I can come and be present in the moment. And even if you're still in your office, just look outside and look at the leaves, you know, waving on a tree. That's just going to bring you down to a different balance. You're going to take your mind off of whatever it's racing about, ranting, about whatever someone said to you that upset you and be in that present moment. And it's going to help relieve your cortisol, which will boost your digestion, which will help balance out your hormones. It's so interconnected. So if anyone thinks that like this stuff is not connected, this is not the show for you. Just kidding, just DM me and we can talk. So that like, it's, you summed up so great too. Like if anybody's going to take walk away with anything from this, as it relates to your beta, it's that exactly what you just said, that we're all connected energy nature and how that impacts our mind and our gut. That's what it is. Yeah. Anyone new to this, like I would just encourage them to just pay a little closer attention to how different things make you feel. And it is all about that energy. Like you get off a phone call with someone that person made you feel a certain way. Then you go outside and all of a sudden the sun is hitting your skin and you're smelling whatever. Hopefully not like car exhaust or something, but you're selling something beautiful. And that, that energy changes how you feel. And so just start being more present and paying attention to like how you feel in different situations. And then you learn your own coping mechanisms as well. So it is, it's just such a, it's a journey. And it's an individual journey that you have to take pretty much alone, you know, because what comes to me is different than what comes my husband. 100% And the same thing here too. But it is good to understand what that looks like too, right? I mean, you're, we're always going to live as a part of somebody else's environment and ecosystem too. So it's always good to understand what that looks like, but I want 100% agreed through my healing journey. Like I couldn't 100% rely upon anybody else to, for me to understand what I needed to have a better relationship with movement, have a better relationship with food. You know, I had to do that myself and, and understand everything myself. Yeah. And I feel like that's like, stage two, like once you understand how energy impacts you, you can then start to have self awareness about how your energy and what you're putting out into the world impacts people around you. And so, yeah, it's, I mean, neither of us are experts and we've been studying this for a long time. So it's just this journey. And there's always so much to learn. Nobody is going to leave this world thinking that they know everything because the more you learn, the more you realize you literally know nothing about the plants around. You. And that's the beautiful part about it too. We're always learning something new. And, and I think that's, that's what makes things interesting. It does. It makes it very, it helps you live a curious life, which sometimes they think is better than even a passionate life. Like curiosity drives passion, you know, and your passions can change, but curiosity is what I think gets you there. So anyways, tangent, but there are a couple other practices in IRA Veda that I heard that I was fascinated about. Obviously I'd heard of them before, but I didn't know that they specifically came from IRA Veda. So the two popping into my brain, no three are dry brushing. Um, the T the tongue scraping and, and the oil pulling. Yeah. So talk to me a little bit about those. Yeah. I'm glad you brought that up because it's, it's also like something we're educating, you know, we'll talk about the brand soon, but like, people are already practicing so many things of higher beta without realizing it's a part of IRB that like we talked about, right. So dry brushing, great for the lymphatic drainage, right? So it's like those lit big, long brushes. And at the end they have like a dry brush literally on it. You can get on Amazon wherever. Um, I will, of course always look for better quality, like, um, better quality ones. So it's not plastic or anything that you just don't want to be putting on your body anyways. Um, but yeah, the whole idea of that is really just like shedding that like skin shedding, the dirt, shedding, everything from like, that's no longer serving you from like a theoretical perspective, but also physically you're moving, you know, lymphatic drainage, you're moving energy down your body. And the way that, you know, you usually perform it is towards the center of your body. So towards your HeartSpace and towards your gut. Um, so that's one practice that people are definitely starting to pick up. Most people are doing it because they understand lymphatic drainage, which is great. Um, but yeah, it does stem from iron Veda. And if you were to go through, you know, an, an aggravated cleanse, then that would definitely be part of it. The second one you said is, uh, tongue scrapings. So yeah, you came by those little copper tongue scrapers, which I highly recommend first thing in the morning. Um, even before you brush your teeth, scrape your tongue. So you're getting out all of that Alma, that bad bacteria, that bad energy, again, that, you know, you culminated all night sleeping can kind of just rid yourself of that and start fresh in the morning, obviously. Great for dental oral health digestion. So getting out any of that bacteria that as soon as you drink something, it's going to go back in and just kind of run in your stomach. Right. Um, yeah. I. Heard about that, that I didn't know. And I like immediately ran to the mirror and looked at my tongue was the more white, like film you have on the top of your tongue, the more indication of toxins you have in your body release those toxins. So you don't swallow them back and they don't just stay in circulation. Exactly. And if you were to go to an Ayurvedic practitioner and say, like, I feel out of balance, like help me. One of the things I'll do is I'll have you stick out your tongue, cause that will tell them like, uh, one which dosha you fall under and two, yeah. How, how your digestion is. So it's a huge indicator. Um, and then that third one, which I do every single morning also is oil pulling. So that's kind of, after you have scraped your tongue, you, you know, um, just basically squash oil in your mouth for 10 minutes, five minutes, whatever that looks like again, taking out that bacteria. Um, and, and really, you know, the oil that you use is dependent on what feels good for you and what, you know, you need energetically, but those are the three practices that people are starting to gravitate towards, which I really appreciate. But they're all, um, from higher beta. Yeah. I think the oil pulling is really interesting too. Like if you look at Listerine, a lot of people do Listerine, right? But littering kills good and bad bacteria. And so, and bad bacteria is opportunistic. So if you wipe the slate, clean, bad bacteria is probably going to grow a lot faster. And that's how you have to continue to use this Listerine, which also your oral microbiome is just as important as your gut microbiome and can impact mental health, hormonal balance. All of that. It's wild. You know, you don't realize how much your mouth has to do with the rest of your body, but it's the entry point for everything. And, you know, it's just so wild. So the co the coconut oil or whatever oil you use for the oil pulling only extracts the bad bacteria. And I was curious like, is that like, I don't know if you know how that works, but is bad bacteria, it's fat soluble. Like why did they only extract the bad bacteria? To be honest, I don't, I, I don't know. And I don't want to make something up on the spot. I, I'm not entirely sure. Um, what, you know, the idea behind that is because they do also say like, you know, for some people, Sesame oil is better for some people coconut oil. So I'm not really sure, like how, how that all kind of, um, comes together. I'm sure there's other people, I'm sure there's also. Just antibacterial properties in it. So, you know, like ginger is like antibacterial and antifungal and garlic and all of that. And so there's probably some kind of antibacterial property to these oils that kill the bad bacteria just, or extracted, I guess, so that you can see that. I don't know. It's so wild. Can't know everything. I know, but yeah. I mean, to your point, like all of those practices are done with the gut in mind, like we talked about in the beginning, right? It's just like the epicenter of, of what we're thinking about from an Ayurvedic person. Uh, the gut it's so underrated, everyone thinks it's cool and the heart is so cool, but neither of those things can do their jobs without the gut. And I'm sure people are so sick of hearing me say this, but like my favorite thing to tell people is worms don't have brains. They only have guts and that's what drives all of their actions. So, you know, if you want to start an argue with me about what's the first brain I'm going to tell you, it's the gut. And, you know. I would agree with you. And I had no idea about the worm. That's so funny. I used to have like 500 worms and compost in my backyard. Now I have a service that I compost with, but because I was really terrible at keeping worms alive, apparently. Um, so I didn't want to create any more mass genocide in the word, more in population, but moving on, I want to talk about you again and your cookie mixes and how they're evolving into brownie mixes and muffin, mixes, and cookie doughs, which I am bummed that I missed the question. I'll be back. Don't worry. Let's dive into that. How did you think of you again and start with cookies specifically and let's just dive into all of it. Yeah, totally. Um, so you, again, really, you know, started, you know, we just launched last year, late 2020, but it really started years ago just in my kitchen. So, you know, going back to my story, um, as I was on this journey to healing, I was healing, you know, both my hormones, I was healing my relationship with food. I was healing all of that. Right. And they all go hand in hand, like we mentioned. Um, so I started incorporating superfoods and adaptogens. Like I mentioned, ashwagandha, Rhodiola, Maka, et cetera. Those are all provided by a functional medicine doctor. Um, but I was also kind of like, eh, I don't feel like I'm always just taking it in a pill. Right. And so I started to get a little bit more creative at the same time. Um, incorporating more nourishing foods into my life, like healthy fats, which I used to be terrified of. Right. Like how do I incorporate that in at the same time, realizing that I have always had a huge sweet tooth and I had suppressed that sweet tooth for far too long, or if I didn't, I would like sneak treats here and there just to like satisfy it, but it wasn't a healthy relationship nonetheless. So how could I kind of bring all of that together? And so that's really where I started, you know, just for myself, I was like, I'm going to start baking these cookies with almond flour, with, you know, almond butter or cashew butter with a little bit of maple. Because while you know, sugar gets a really bad rep as it should a natural natural sources like maple, honey coconut, I'm a huge fan of, because as females, we really do our hormones, like can thrive off of healthy carbohydrates and So I had to start incorporating that back into my diet. And so through that, I really just started developing these own cookies and brownies and stuff for myself, sprinkling in the OSH Lagonda and the Maka and whatever, you know, I was, I was starting to incorporate into, into my supplement regime. Um, and they kind of came to life from there. And I just went on this like creative journey with, with how I could kind of bring all of those worlds together. And the passion really came from the light bulb that, you know, one, like I said, we're all different too. I, our Veda and these ingredients and the idea behind it needs to come to life, needs to be applied in a modern world. You know, it's used so commonly over in India and even Europe people realize that more, but it's not really as familiar here or if it is people don't know that, like we've talked about for the last several minutes that it's associated with higher beta. So how can I bring all of that into a modern application? And that's really where after kind of again, using it myself to heal my own journey started realizing that there's an opportunity to bring this to market. Um, and that's what we did. We launched them as cookie mixes because we want them to be customizable. You know, we want it to do what works for you. We want you to choose which nut butter works for you. We want you to have fun with it. Um, and so that's where we started with a cookie mix. Um, and now to your point, you just mentioned, we are, we did just relaunch as brownie and muffin mix for two of our mixes, which we're super excited about just based on how people are starting to enjoy them. And yeah. Yeah. So it's, it's about transforming everyday comfort foods into functional foods. I'm not depriving anybody of anything I'm taking away that whole stigma around cookies and desserts and it being, you know, instead, okay, if you're eating something with functional food, a food that serves a health benefiting purpose in your body, every single ingredient, then it should be enjoyed whenever. Right. And I, and I think that's really what we're trying to push out there and get our message across. I love. That you said that sugar gets a bad rap and it absolutely does. And like you said, it absolutely should, but really only certain kinds of sugar, mostly the man-made super processed sugars or the zero calories sugars that are just creating confusion and wrecking havoc in your body and creating cravings and, you know, empowering weight gain and fat storage and all of that. But when you're working with, so for example, your cookies, like you said, they contain a sugar source of maple syrup, maple syrup, honey, coconut sugar, all of those have, um, Nutri nutrient benefits to them. So you're not just consuming like fruit toast. That's on a label is a simple sugar that is going to spike your blood sugar. And there's no nutrient density to it whatsoever. However, a whole source of sugar, like from fruit or maple syrup or honey, those are more complex sugars. And so you're getting them with other things. And when we're talking about your mixes, if you're going to have sugar have real sugar, and if you can get it from a source that also has healthy proteins and healthy fats and fiber, what that's going to do is when it goes into your body, it's going to absorb a lot slower in your body. So you're not getting those sugar spikes. You're getting that energy that all your cells can use to give you energy throughout the day, and to heal your digestive track and create new proteins and new hormones and transport them to your brain. So you feel good, but it's happening at a slower rate, which is really what you want. So that almond flour has great protein and healthy fats. Um, maple syrup has its own nutrient and vitamin profile to it. Um, I don't remember everything else that's in there, but then you're also adding those adaptogens and that's out whatever unfavorable feelings you're having. So like, I just think that's so important to draw the correlation, like a cookie that you can buy at Safeway that just has know refined sugar and GMOs. Wow. Yeah. Processed rancid, vegetable oil, like all of these things that are creating inflammation and not giving you any nutrients and not helping slow the digestion since that's, what's most important at the core of your body, um, how you can, you don't have to strip sweets out of your life. You just learn how to enjoy sweets so that you're also supporting your body. Exactly. And that's exactly how we thought about it and how I thought about it is because, you know, realistically, we're not going to strip our entire world in life of sweets and nor should we necessarily, because there is still that mind connection, right? Like sure. You could, you know, just take them out completely, but are you stressed? Are you craving them? Are you, you know, do you still not have a really healthy relationship with them, then let's support it by still providing real sugar, nothing fake, because it's going to confuse your mind even more like you mentioned, but in a very controlled manner. So our mixes, like, you know, if you taste them or our cookies, like they're going to be on the lower sugar side because we're still trying to advocate for a lower sugar, you know, lifestyle in general. Um, but from a real source, from a source, that's going to have a nutritional profile to it. Exactly. And the other thing you've said a couple of times that is so important is creating that relationship with sugar. That isn't negative because if you're eating that receipt and then you're mad at yourself, you're just increasing your cortisol, which is doing all other kinds of crap in your body, you know? And so like, if you want to enjoy a sweet treat, enjoy a sweet tree and just, you know, know what you're doing and know what you're putting in Like there doesn't need to be this guilt or shame around enjoying something that's on the sweeter side, as long as you're just mindful about it. I'm so glad you mentioned that because I think, you know, it is a hurdle that we face as a company and as a brand, because you have some that are like strictly no sugar, or, you know, we're going to add fake sugars or whatever. And then you have the others that are like, if I'm going to eat a cookie, I want a real cookie. And I valid, I, you know, I appreciate both points, but it's like, we're really in the middle where we're saying like, have it Bo you know, but don't have the stuff that's going to hurt you. Right? Like be mindful of what you're putting into your body, but enjoy a cookie. Like we support that, you know, I had to do that myself, but going back to relationship, that was the biggest problem with me regaining more, my menstrual cycle is the actual mental perspective I had on food. And people don't realize how detrimental that can be to your hormones and your guts. You know, I still face, you know, every time I'm stressed, I'm sure many people feel that. How does, like, think about how it affects your gut? Do you feel bloated? Do you feel like, well, when you're resting. When you're stressed, you can't digest. You know, you have to be in that rest and digest mode, but when you're stressed or you're in a fight or flight mode and your digestive digestive system can not work when you're in that situation. So yeah, it's so important. And the other thing I was going to say is your brain actually loves sugar. Like the good kind though. So that's why you feel so good after you consume some sugar because your brain is kind of, um, lighting up your reward center because your body can use sugar for energy really efficiently and really quickly. And so it doesn't need to go expend all this energy in order to create energy. So your brain is like, Hey, thanks for giving me a little break there. But especially for like these sugar alternatives or substitutes, there's zero calories sugars, your mouth activates these, this pathway to tell your brain and your stomach, that sugar is coming and then sugar never comes. And your brain is like, what the hell? I didn't get my sugar fix. And now you're craving more sugar and you're going to eat more of the zero calorie stuff. And it's going to be this really evil cycle, um, and sugar alternatives, um, D they damage the gut lining and they create those cravings, which leads to weight gain, which leads to hormonal imbalances. And so just eat real sugar, have a good relationship with it and try to consume it with healthy proteins and healthy fats in your critic, go, and then like, look at yourself in the mirror and just thank your body for working really hard for you. You know, I still deal with body dysmorphia all the time and still want to put myself down. When I see myself working out at the gym, like my thighs are too big or whatever, like I've gained weight in whatever area. And I have to very consciously just thank my body because it's working so hard for me. And I am pretty much in optimal health for what that looks like for me. And that's all that matters is your actual health, not the physical image that you think you see in the mirror. Yeah. I'm so glad you brought that up because I'll mention it. I don't know, you know, who of your listeners resonates with this, but through my recovery process, that has been a challenging part. Your body is going to change your body needs to change, but accepting that change and seeing, you know, again, holding onto something identity that was different is hard, but you have to remind yourself like, you know, I have a menstrual cycle now, like, yay me. Like, you know, like, that's good things. Your body is coming back to where it should be. And, and that's a lot of like the idea of you again. So you like, we are focusing on you, right. Being the you part. And then again, it's just like coming back to a place where you, you feel like your best self and it's the roots. Like, let's think about how we did it ages ago. And let's go back to that again. You know, like that's how we should be really focusing on our health and our whole body and lifestyle. I always say, it's just the journey back to your body. You know, it's not about so many of us see something in the mirror and we don't like what we see, but we're actually not seeing it very clearly. And there's so much going on internally, like right now, the billings of things happening in my body, just so I can say this sentence to you, you know, it's insane and it's miraculous. So just support your body and be grateful for it. And it's a journey, you know, I have days where I'm like, whew, I ate so bad today. And then I have days where I get back on the bandwagon and, you know, your health journey is not just, you start here and you go up like it's up and down and down again and then up. And you're doing great. And you're like, I'm never going back to those mistakes I made. And then you plummet right back down again, and you just learn lessons along the way. I couldn't agree more. So I think we've kind of touched on it a little bit, but before we start wrapping up, I would just love to hear from your perspective, how your cookie mix is brownie mixes, muffin, mixes, and your cookie dough, which you're going to release again, how they actually work to support the body. Yeah. So definitely on a lot of those aspects that you just mentioned from, um, the nutritional side of things, right? So every single ingredient, and this was, you know, something that was so important to me, every ingredient in there is it going to serve health, benefiting purpose, of course, understanding we are all different. So if you cannot tolerate nuts, I completely understand, you know, we have a mix. That's what sprouted out sprouting is better for digestion, of course. So really thinking about how every single ingredient is serving a purpose in your body. Um, and then the other component of that is obviously the superfoods and adaptogens that we've added. So each is, you know, carefully and thoughtfully created in conjunction with, um, you know, aggravated nutritionists to support the mind, the gut and the hormones. So things like ashwagandha we've talked about for our mint chocolate mix, um, peppermint is super cooling to that, to that gut, right? Um, cacau is super great for the dopamine, the mood boosting that satisfaction, um, and stress. So each mix has ingredients in it that really can calm both the nervous system that can calm the digestion that can, um, support the hormones, um, but in different ways. Um, and that's really how we thought about it. You know, if we really want to go in to the details of it, we talked about minutes ago, three different doses, right? The three different energies and those elements, each of the mixes, um, were created with those principles in mind. So, you know, while we say each is available and beneficial to everybody, because we talked about, we flex through those different energies throughout our day, as we should. Um, you know, the chocolate chip mix was created more for that, that body type that feels a little more angsty, right? Or they feel like they're just like floating and they need to be grounded and they need a little bit more rest in that, that mint chocolate for, for those that feel like they get heated or, and they're powering through a day and they're like, oh my God, I'm burnt out. You know, those ingredients are really there to support you. And then our oh, ginger it's, um, it's there to kind of just support your digestion and support that energy. Or like, I wake up and I feel like I have zero energy or zero focus, why we packed in that lines, man, in that Maka for, for those. So we really thought about it from, from all of those elements. Well, I'm getting hungry. My mouth is salivating. And, uh, gosh, I just lost my train of thought. Literally thinking about eating your cookies. One thing I was going to say, I just went to your website while you were talking to see if you had a quiz to like figure out which is best for you, which you definitely need. Um, other thing I was gonna mention, this is like such a random, just tidbit fact for ya, but everyone thinks like almond butter is so much better and healthier for you than peanut butter. And if you're getting like organic, you know, good raw peanut butter, that's actually not true at all. Like the marketing of almond butter has been incredible. But actually if you look at the nutrients of peanut butter versus Selmon butter, they're almost exactly the same, but I think peanut butter has more magnesium. That's what it is. But just like a fun fact out there for everyone. That's like, God, I can't spend $15 on this almond butter. You don't need, you just buy a good peanut butter then. Well, yeah. To your point, as long as it's good, you know, you have to be a little bit more careful with the peanuts, but as long as they're good peanuts and almost everywhere, you can find that now peanut butter is delicious. That was one of those things that was like off my list when I was like from my union to sort of move into an orthorexic period where you're like, oh, I'm scared of everything. Peanuts was the one. Now I'm obsessed with peanut butter again. And it goes really well with our chocolate chip mix. Yeah. I mean, with nut butters, you just want to be careful what oil they're using with exactly. That butter one that doesn't use any oils. Exactly. Yeah. All right. Well what's next for the brand. So it's coming. Yeah. So we did, um, just launch we're actually we're launching next week, but probably by the time this podcast comes out, it'll be done. Um, launched the mint chocolate as a cookie and brownie mix and our out ginger as a cookie and muffin mix. Um, we are, you know, working on our retail expansion. So right now we're predominantly through our own website and you can find us on Amazon, um, and through the Erewhon markets in Los Angeles, but we'll be popping up in a lot more stores, um, mainly in Southern California, but we have are, are, um, making some progress in some other regions, which we're excited to share. So that's next for us. Um, we will be bringing back that cookie dough, just TBD on what that looks like, but, um, everybody can, can look forward to that. And in the near future and just working on product development, um, you know, for us, it's not just about cookies and brownies, you know, that's where it started, but there's a lot more that we want to tackle different categories we run and get into and really be that, that IRA, Vedic lifestyle brand for everybody, um, and supporting their journey to understanding personalized nutrition. That's amazing. That's. Really exciting. And I love all of it. And I think I have you again, I just built an Amazon storefront and I have like a clean sweep. I think I have you again in there. I will double check, but I'm pretty sure it's in there. So I'll put the link in the show notes as well, and I'll link to the website and all the Instagram and all of that. So listeners can get their hands on some you again, but before we really wrap this up, I have three quick questions for ya. So the first is what does having a clean body mean to you? Yeah. Um, I think it really means appreciating and understanding that mind, body connection. You know, we talked a lot about it before, but it's not necessarily, um, it's not necessarily just eating something and like being done with it. It's really understanding how you're feeling your body my life. I wasn't feeling my body. So it's really appreciating how you're feeling your body and how that has a mind, body connection effect on you. That's a great answer. I agree. What are some lifestyle habits that you have that you just couldn't live without? Um, movement? I mean, it's always been a big part of my life, whether it was in a good part or bad part, you know, you learn through it, but I just, I have to move and in any facet and be in nature, you know, I've found such an appreciation for my mental health and, um, just being in nature. And that's why we live on the west coast coast close to things that we can just be outside all the time. So that definitely plays a part in, in my, my lifestyle habits. Yeah. I mean, I live on the west coast, but like in the hottest desert ever, you love. Arizona. We love Arizona. I get out of Phoenix often and go camping. I just went camping last weekend and it was like a beautiful 75 degrees in sprinkling. And I was like, oh, I just need to move amongst the Pines. But. It was fun if we moved anywhere, it'd probably be Flagstaff. We're both my husband's a huge ultra runner. And so, um, that's a good place. Well. We would love to have you let me know here last quick hit question for you. What are some other brands that you really love right now? I mean, there's so many that I just loved seeing that are popping up. Um, I know you had Ashley on not to on and go from BTR bar. She's great. I love what she's doing. Um, there's a ton of them that I'm trying to think of off the top of my head. Um, I love forage granola. If you guys haven't talked, checked them out, um, has found the founder. Parker's a really great guy. Um, and yeah, I mean, I think just in general, I loving that brands are starting to focus more on the ingredients that are, that are in their products. So I'm sorry, I'm drawing a mind blank on, I support everybody that's small and hustling just like we are. Yeah, absolutely. I literally, like my favorite thing is finding small businesses that are just doing it right. You know, so don't apologize. I just live my life like literally grocery shopping, but hard thing that listeners should know is a lot of the companies that are doing it right. It is a little harder sometimes to get your hands on it because it is order online because of often politics that have to do with grocery stores. So make sure you're supporting, you know, if they're on Amazon, on Amazon, but if you're even want to go a step further order off their website, because Amazon takes a fee. So, you know, it is a little harder sometimes to get your hands on these products, but there's so many good brands and companies doing to support them so they can continue to live in our ecosystem and we can all get healthier. One bite at a time that was so cheesy. I love it. I love it. Well, thank you so much. How can people get in touch with you? Get their hands on products or just learn more? Uh, thanks so much for having me. This was such a fun conversation. Um, we can be found on Instagram at you again, foods we're online at you again, dot co. Um, you can find me I'm at nourished by pre I like putting out content like this. Um, so yeah, you can find us a bunch of different places. We're on Twitter, LinkedIn, all the, all the good things. Um, but yeah, we're very responsive, so. Awesome. Thank you so much, Priya. Thank you so much for having me. I, everyone, I hope you enjoyed that interview. As a reminder, this podcast is for educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional care from a doctor or otherwise qualified health professional. This podcast is provided on the understanding that medical or other health related services.