The Time of My Life...

Who doesn't love Dirty Dancing? No, really. It has everything. Fantastic Music, Phenomenal Dancing, Young Love, and a few other weird story plots truly help this film stand the test of time.
Nomi & Robert chat through what makes the movie so memorable to them, and how it's shaped them in different ways over the years. How has it changed your life? Or is it one you can pass on? Let us know what you think about Dirty Dancing!

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SPEAKER_00 0:15

Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Oh, hi. Hi. Hello, everybody. Hi, friends. Hello. Hello. Friends and friends and friends.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Hi. Hello. We are um hanging out at Calorman's for the rest of the summer.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Oh, that would be so fun. Oh my gosh, I'm still thinking about that.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Okay, so um let's give let's see if we can give them some clues and they can guess what today's subject matter is.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Provided they didn't look up the listing for the episode. Right. I just thought of that. Just popped in my head. Like, oh, they're gonna know because they just clicked on the button. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

So you guys are listening to our dirty dancing episode live from Kellerman's In the Cat Skills.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Oh, yay!

SPEAKER_00 1:07

Here we go. It's our first live episode. Hi everyone. Oh, look at this audience. All three of them. You guys are so lovely and quiet and respectful. We absolutely love that. Amazing. Uh so we will uh we were going to have a QA once we wrap up the podcast here today for you guys. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Yeah, Dirty Dancing. We just watched it the other night.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Dirty Dancing. We we watched it um uh well I watched it like three times in two days. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

It was it was the first time in a while for me, and it was it was a nice topic.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

I was obsessed with it. Get back to it. I was obsessed with it when it came out. I was 10. And uh what year was that again? 87.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

87. So I was five? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, likes no.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Baby Robber um baby robber. Um, so is that like baby Yoda?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Kinda, yeah. The child.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Oh, I just yeah, that would be a cute nickname for um, you know, him. Although you are a little bit more Darth Vader-shaped, I will say, than Yoda-shaped. Yeah, that's right. Okay, so um moving right along. Dirty D-D-Dirty Dancing.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

That's right. The the Elmer Fudd version.

SPEAKER_00 2:29

Yeah, it was really weird. I don't know how it started, but I was looking for something for us to watch the other night, and I saw Dirty Dancing, and I thought, you know, I haven't seen this in so long. Let's just go ahead and watch it and see what happens. And it was amazing. Yeah. Oh my god, it was amazing all over again. Yeah. And um I just I love that frickin' movie, and um, I'm glad that it's still available for us to watch. So we watched it, and then as soon as it was over, I started it again as the go-to-sleep movie for that evening because I can't sleep with the TV off. Um, and then I watched it again the next day.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

It's pretty good, it's very, very good. I wouldn't say it's one of my favorite movies, but it's one of those movies I don't mind watching, like if if it just pops up on TV or you like brought it on randomly. But I love the music. Yeah, it's about the music. The music is great. Of course, because it's well Patrick Swayze.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

I mean, he was such a matinee idol at the time. So dreamy. And then Jennifer Gray was hot off the heels of Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Oh, did she do that before this? Yes, that was 86. Interesting, okay. Uh huh. So it was the year before. And Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Gray worked together on Red Dawn in '84.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

And what is that about?

SPEAKER_00 3:45

That's uh it's about a group of school kids who are in the middle of a Russian invasion of our country.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

And they fight back. Jeez. As their school is being taken over. What? Yeah. That sounds good. It's very like day after next, but with Ruskies instead of nukis. I don't know what that is either, but that still sounds good. Ruskies are Russians, and Nukies are nuclear weapons. And that's what the day after next was about, I think 81 with Jason Robards, and it was about a um nuclear bomb blowing up weird. America.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I remember what I know what you're talking about now.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

Yeah, I got it. I mean, I think that started like water cooler talk the next day. Yeah. Um, so anyway, oh, we digressed, and now I forgot. Dirty dancing. Well, I know we're talking about dirty dancing. Oh, red uh Red Dawn. And they didn't hear some trivia, you guys. They didn't get along on Red Dawn. Jennifer Gray did not like Patrick Swayze. I mean, it happens, right? It's like any other job, you're not gonna get along with every coworker. Yeah, same thing with TV and movies. Yeah, I think so. He actually begged her to take this part because she didn't want to work with him again. And they had an amazing screen test, and the uh what you see in the da-da-da, da da da scene where they're dancing and they have sex or make love for the first time, that was their uh audition. That was their screen test. They recreated it because they had such chemistry that the director said it was magical.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

I even knew that as a kid. I was like, uh I I was always really uncomfortable with movies where I'm watching straight people have sex and make out and stuff because it was just uncomfortable for me as a kid. I didn't really know why, but I knew watching this movie that they were a real couple.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

So anyway. Um he begged her to work on this movie, and she finally accepted, and they had this amazing chemistry in their screen test. They recreated it, and as production went on, they started fighting and not getting along with each other. So the director showed them that screen test and the chemistry that they had on screen, and it got them back on track. Nice. And another bit of IMDB trivia is the scene uh where they are dancing in the studio to um what is it, Mickey and Mickey? Not Mickey, but you know, hey Mickey, hey Sylvia, oh babe. Yeah, you're in front of your computer, look it up. Yeah, hey baby. So that scene that was uh a warm-up for filming the following scene, but it was so well done that the director decided to keep it in the movie. So that whole scene is not them acting, that's them just warming up to fun. Yeah. I love that. So, you know, I I am aware of a little bit of the drama now, blah blah blah, blah, blah. Jennifer Gray went on record as saying Patrick Swayze is an amazing person and he would do anything for me, but we're a little oil and water. Fair enough. Great. She's a professional about it. It's not like this Sarah Jessica Parker, Kim Cottrell bullshit from Sex in the City that just completely distracts from the actual entertainment of the show itself.

SPEAKER_01 7:11

Yeah, and all the better for it.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

So kudos to you, Miss Gray, because uh you are a professional.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Uh, no kidding, winner of season 11 of Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, right. Which I was really surprised, surprised with by after watching the movie. I thought, you know, she should get on Dancing with the Stars, having never really watched the show other than the last season, and then surprised to find that she won because she's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Because she is amazing. Everyone in that movie is amazing. Pretty good. I love the mom. The mom is great, she's the grandmother from um Gilmore Girls. Oh, I never watched that. And I should watch that. Um, and and Jane Brucker, who plays the older sister, I I love her. Um, she actually co-wrote the song at the end of the movie, the Hanalana song that she sings in the talent contest. Hulahana. Hulahana, hulaana, hanalana. And yeah, she co-wrote it and she sang it beautifully. Yeah. Um, but the scene where Patrick Swayze gets fired and leaves, and Jennifer Gray is getting ready for um the final or the finale concert, and then they've got the She's Like the Wind sung and written by Patrick Swayze playing. And I mean, look, I'm getting goosebumps right now, just talking about it. And the moment that the two of them had, okay, thank you. And the moment that the two of them had together with each other, I think was just really, really well done. And it touched me. And the whole movie has just sort of reinspired my love for it now. Yeah, it's great. So we decided to do a podcast about it. Yeah. What was your favorite part of the movie?

SPEAKER_01 8:46

We're saying uh I am all about the music and the dancing, as I mentioned. So pretty much anything that has both of those in it, but it's hard for me to pick. It's either the scene where they're actually at the other like club or the other uh place doing like the dance show that she was training for. I love that when she doesn't do the lift. And then she has the lift her little like her hand jive moment.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

I love that. And that is supposed to be the moment that Johnny first falls in love with her.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

Oh, I believe it.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Or realizes that he's falling in love with her.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

Yeah, because she proved that she could do it. She finally was just yeah, I love that. Um, I also love the finale, of course. Because it's it makes everything. It's you get to see the culmination of all of the stress and the anxiety and the frustration and the like tension, and it all just comes out to this big happy, wonderful moment where everyone's dancing. That's where I saw my first lesbians.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

We don't know that they were lesbians, they could have just been widows.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

I they're just two best girlfriends, and it's fun to watch them just like get up and like, we're gonna dance, we're gonna have fun. Um, and then my third is is the Hula Hannah song with her sister when she's doing her her like little luau moment. Yeah, it's perfect, it's so good. I can't believe I just did that. Yeah, good job. I know it's like a gift from God. Uh, I was reading that, she actually never got credit for it until like two decades later.

SPEAKER_00 10:23

I believe that.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

And then um, it only came about because the dirty dancing movie was being made into a stage musical to like tour the world or whatever. And so as they're gathering the rights for the songs that everyone loves from the movie to put into the musical, they had to reach out to each individual person to be like, hey, can we use your song? And so they reached out to her because they found out that she and Kenny Ortega, the choreographer from this movie and from like high school musical hocus pocus on.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

It's one of his first movies, yeah, if not his first.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

He they reached out to to both of them and they said, Yeah, let's let's split it 50-50. We wrote the song, we're gonna do it. Um, and then he said, The only way I'm gonna do this with you is if you sing those last notes for me. And she said, No, I'm not gonna do it, I'm not gonna do it. And he's like, Fine, I'm not gonna do it then. And so she's standing in the middle of like Hollywood and Highland shopping or something on the phone with Kenny Ortega and screams out those final notes to get that 50-50 cut. That's so cute.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

I love that. And I love Hollywood and Highland. You see everything at that intersection, yeah. Even the stuff you don't want to see, even the stuff you don't want to see. I want to see it all. Yeah, it's fun. I think it's I think it's all fascinating. Uh yeah, I I love the movie. I love everything about the movie. I think my favorite scene is the finale. That's it's the scene. Well, it's the dance that we already saw them do, right?

SPEAKER_01 11:44

And then Which I just noticed the other day too.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Oh, you didn't know that they were doing the same song? No, I hadn't I like the only thing they ever rehearsed.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Yeah, I didn't realize it. Then now I'm like, oh, of course that's the what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

That's Robert putting two and two together.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Those are the steps that she knows. Except now it's sexier.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

But it's sexier, yes, because there's not the tension of performance. We're actually seeing these two people not do every step, but in love with each other, with each other, and then what they are doing is um really intimate and fantastic, and there's a there's a relaxed sort of motion to what they're doing that I think is that's the love story there. That's where you're seeing the actual love story.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Totally. I love the bridge when they slow it down and they're just holding each other and he's looking at her. And the the male part of the song, like the the Bill Medley part, he like Patrick Swayze's just standing there back and forth, looking at her, and then he starts to mount the words of the song, and you're just like melting as made every girl.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

It's so good for Patrick Swayze.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

I love that part. And I love I love when at the end where they're just doing the dance interlude, yeah, and there's that one girl with the blue and like navy white polka dot skirt, and the guy's like flipping it up as she's twirling in front of him.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Oh, it's so good. It's really good. It's really, it's really, really good. And I love Cynthia Rhodes as Penny. Oh, yeah. And I love that in the finale, like there's the like the truths come to life. Yeah, you know, it you said it's a happy ending and it is. We realize that Robbie's the creep. We realize that now uh Jerry Orbach's character as the as the dad knows that he's the creep. Um and and and and then knowing that also knows that Johnny is the stand-up guy. Yeah. So it's like don't judge a book by its cover, although you we do. Um, and also too, really unaware of as a kid, the subplot or the main focus of the movie was really the abortion timeline, which I think is the only reason why it takes place in the 60s because abortion was really taboo back then.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I don't know at what point I picked up on that, probably in my late 20s, early 30s, when I realized what the movie was actually about, and just like, oh, oh yikes, okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

I remember when I was a kid and I watched, I was like 10 or 11. So I was just sort of starting to come into my own and and going through puberty. And I remember the scene where Lisa is going to go have sex with Robbie, and she opens the door, and he's having sex with uh the other the older woman.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Oh, right, the one whose husband's always away and only comes over for the weekends. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 14:37

Yeah, and it was such a like uh it was it was just a snapshot of a scene, and then it cuts to her face reacting, and then you hear him say, Oh shit. There was something about that that was so titillating as a 10 as a 10-year-old to see that guy in bed with the hairy chest and the woman on top of it. It's probably why that's my favorite position. I mean, it also gives me the control, but yeah, yeah, it was very it was like whoa, we I think that's the first time that well no, because I watched Flash Dance when I was six. But I don't think my dad was so angry with my mom. He let me do things that he knew she was, he let me drink coffee at six years old. I got to play with matches in the kitchen sink, I got to watch Flash Dance and Creep Show. Oh, it was yeah, but I think I think that was the first time I really started to like kind of ooh, and then one day I was watching MacGyver and uh the I was like, what's that? What's what's happening downstairs? Oh my god, and I was afraid to touch it because it was the first time I really thought of it. Like, I think it was like hard, and I was aroused uh from Richard Dean Anderson from MacGyver. And if anybody's gonna judge me for that, screw you. Richard Dean Anderson was fucking trade in the day.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

Is that the person who played MacGyver?

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Absolutely. Oh, so hot. Who were your crushes growing up? Mine were always like the dad figures, like Alan Thick from Growing Pains, MacGyver.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

That's so funny. Some other ones. That is so funny. It's I had none of those. I think I suppose I looked up to them mostly because I was hopeful for that like family dynamic more than anything. But as far as crushes went, um, Zach Morris and AC Slater, I was obsessed with Save by the Bell. I wanted to be those kids. I wanted to hang out with those kids. In fact, I had the board game and you had to like choose between them. I could not.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

So I always it's your 90210.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

I was like that with Tequila Sunrise. I couldn't decide between Kurt Russell or or Mel Gibson. So I just decided they were gonna London bridge me at 12 years old.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

That's so cute.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

I know. I was I was ready to go.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Well, geez, babe, you were watching Flashdance at six years old. And less and less zero. Damn.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Oh, wait. I did see less okay, so I didn't see less than zero when it came out in '87, although I did see Lost Boys. My dad took me to see Lost Boys.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

See, there's something about like I taking kids to go see horror films or like letting them watch it or whatever, that's fine, because you're gonna get nightmares and whatever, or you're gonna love it. It's it's no big thing. But then watching Flashdance, it's so funny. I don't think it's a big deal either, but there's so much about that movie that I don't know how any of it would make sense as a six-year-old. Like, as you're sitting there, are you not just bored? Oh gosh, no. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

No, no, no, no, no. I'm I personally was not bored, and I think that's something that we also need to realize about youth and movies and what they pick up on. Um, but no, I wasn't bored, I was obsessed with the music and the choreography, the dance numbers, the camaraderie of the girls. Oh, I was the love story. I was in it to win it even at six years old. But I mean, I've always been like, I guess, advanced for my age. I pick up on concepts that I think most people don't until much later in life.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Yeah, and you were surrounded in your early life by adults who kind of personified that like quintessential adult moment that kind of stuck in your head. Like you have the adults sitting around the table and they're playing cards and they're smoking cigarettes and they're laughing. Drinking cone. Yeah, exactly. So you're seeing that example being put off, and you're like, I want to be part of that group because you were also an only child for a really long time. Like no cousins, nothing.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

No, I was the only kid in my family till I was 10. Yeah. And I wasn't even treated like a kid until I was about seven or eight years old.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

But at the same time, not included in those moments that you saw. So you were forced to be.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

Well, from six or seven on. I mean, I was if my parents were partying at my grandparents, um, I was there. I was uh I was on the floor. I was in a sleeping bag on the floor because I didn't want to be in the back in the bedroom because you know the layout of my grandparents' apartment, right? I didn't want to be in the back by myself. I wanted to be with them. So I was allowed to sleep in a sleeping bag on the floor where uh, you know, where the dictionary is. So there used to be a taller table there. So I kind of would crawl under the the table with a sleeping bag and I would sleep there and then I'd wake up and I'd hear everybody and I'd hear the music, and then I'd go back to sleep. And I think that's why I sleep with the TV on. That's why I like to have something around me constantly, it makes me feel safe because that was the last time I remember feeling like I didn't have to protect myself in my own life. Yeah. And I felt safe and I was looked after. And and I, you know, and this is nothing bad about any of my family members either, because um, I respect everyone's experience, and as an adult, I don't have a problem with it. But I I mean, I remember everything. I remember the bong on the kitchen table. I remember a family member doing lines off a Budweiser mirror while listening to Lionel Ritchie albums. Like I remember it all, I was exposed to it all. And like you said, that was the example that was given to me. And so as soon as I was old enough to kind of start making those decisions for myself, and I say kind of start in in quotes because I wasn't, that's why I started smoking. Right. That's why I did my first line of Coke at 11 years old. Yeah, why wouldn't you? No, it's why I was a stoner in junior high.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Well, it was the example, but you were also ready to get your life started because you didn't want people telling you, no, no, Jared, no, no, no, no. You were like ready to go.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

And that was the problem, is that all of a sudden my life changed because of a specific in, you know, and not an incident, but a life-changing event, event is what I mean to say. And and then all of a sudden the games, the game changed, the rules changed, and the pendulum swung fucking hard.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

And I didn't know how to deal with it. And as I tried to adjust to it, uh, moving halfway across the country, having a new father, going to a new school, leaving all of my family behind and not knowing why. I had just started modeling as a kid in LA, and I had two photo shoots under my belt, and that was gone. And I I loved it. Oh my God, it was I just I mean, I'm looking at my very first ad for the shoe connection on the wall right now, and I'm like, that was me at like five years old, like fuck my life. Like, what the hell happened? I was on, I was so blessed to have been born where I was born, when I was born, and everything was just kind of moving along, and then everything fucking changed and the rug got pulled out from under me.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

And so from that moment on, I was massively restricted to the point of oppression, and I couldn't understand why my freedom was being taken away from me when I didn't do anything to to abuse that freedom. And I wasn't given the consideration on how much that would change my perception of the world around me and make me feel unsafe and not trust anything. Like baby. Just like baby.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

So because of that, I've also been very drawn to movies that portray damaged characters. Right. So we're talking less than zero and and all the like the film noir movies and pretty much any movie we've talked about on this podcast, with the exception of like Disney stuff. And if it's a beautiful Drug-addicted female like Jamie Gertz in Less Than Zero. I am in a hundred percent. Are you my woman? Yes, I am. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Cool. So Dirty Dancing was good because Baby wasn't necessarily a bad um girl, but Patrick Swayze's character was a bad boy, and there was a lot of advanced stuff going on that I was picking up some of the subtext to at 10 years old as well. And I think that titillated me and excited me.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Well, yeah, she wasn't a bad girl at all. In fact, she was you. It was you guys mirrored the experience of like coming into uh an adult life all of a sudden as it's kind of thrust upon you in a seemingly uh vapid, uh kind of silly place like Kellerman's. All of a sudden you're watching these people dance all sexy. You're amongst people who are going through uh abortions and having trouble with sexual relationships, and you're like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna do? I know I'm gonna lie to my dad and take his money. Like you she's just thrust into it, and and then in the end she kind of comes out on her own, and it's kind of wonderful. It's nice. I love watching a movie like this because it's got some dynamics and it goes up and down, but no one dies. And it's just this nice little happy ending where everyone kind of feels good about what just happened.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Except for Vivian Pressman. Which one is that? The one that slept with Robbie. Oh, the older cougar before they were cougars. Yeah. Yeah. I I kind of liked her, but there was also something about her that felt very dirty. Yeah. You know? Like and then she gets around. Well, in the beginning, she was just glamorous and sexy and dancing with Patrick Swayze, and then as the movie progresses, you see her slowly start to unravel with her feelings with Patrick Stewart or Patrick Stewart. Patrick Swayze.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Patrick Stewart could play it. He can play anything.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

I had a crush on Patrick Stewart too.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Of course you did.

SPEAKER_00 24:19

During Star Trek Next Generation, the first season. Yeah, he's super cute. Yeah. And then Jonathan Riker as soon as he grew his beard out. Yeah. He was a Lothario on that show. Sure, of course. We started, we were watching that what, like a couple years ago, we got into it a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Yeah, like peak pandemic, we were started watching.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

She was like the William Shatner of that that uh generation.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

I love it.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

But anyway. Um, so back to Dirty Dancing. Now another little trivial fact about Kellerman's. Uh I did you pick up on anything about Kellerman's and and the people that were there?

SPEAKER_01 24:54

Oh, the fact that there were no black people to be seen except for the two people who worked there and then the band leader.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

Well, it was a movie about the 60s made in the 80s. So there's that. And and that's kind of in line with where I'm going, but there was something else. Was it a Jewish camp? There you go. Think about the the name Kellerman, right? Yeah. And that's because in the 60s, a lot of these types of clubs and resorts were restrictive to Jewish people. So they had to go and create their own. So they had these sort of like enclaves and these uh institutions that they could go to.

SPEAKER_01 25:31

Like all the golf clubs where they're like, oh, like that Golden Girls episode where they don't let the Jewish person come to the restaurant because he's Jewish.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

That's it. It's a restricted that's what they meant by restricted. So that's so gross. If a lawn jockey's involved, you pretty high chance it's gonna be racist, bigoted institution. Terrible. Terrible. Or or a swinger in San Clemente. But I that's a pineapple. That pineapple we just found out is like this universal symbol for swingers.

SPEAKER_01 25:59

So, of course, my grandparents' house is covered in pineapples, so that makes me feel real good.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

So there's also uh a community down in in um here in Orange County uh in San Clemeni, where we used to live for a little bit. And uh we found out after we moved there that it was uh there's a big swingers community there, and there were a couple telltale signs that if they had uh if they had uh lawn jockeys, no gnomes, garden gnomes, garden gnomes, yeah. They had garden gnomes in their gar in their front garden. Um, and then there's also this apparently this wine bar there in San Clemente in Telega, and on Tuesday nights it was swingers' nights, and the way that they would identify themselves was by wearing white pants.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

That's so weird.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

And then apparently in Dana Point, they rent out like the Hilton there once a year for a big convention. Oh, of course. I say rock on with your bad self. I mean, do do you curve?

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Oh yeah, no, it's just weird that the whole thing is like secretive and we didn't know about it until we started hearing things. Granted, they left us alone because we're the only gays in the village.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

We were the only gays in the village that well, not no, there were two other gays in the village that brought us there, but we were the classy ones. That's we were the urban ones dipping our toes in the pond of suburbia.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

I was telling you that I would really like to spend like a couple weeks at a Kellerman's type place. Like I never got to go to summer camp. No, that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Oh, let me just get this ginger ale down real quick. No, no, no. Okay. Um again, nothing wrong, just not our cup of tea, listen to our sex episode.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

Uh no, I think that would be really fun. Like hang out and do archery and painting and canoeing and play Pinochle or whatever. Bingo karaoke, like like you said, it was like a uh a landlocked cruise ship.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

All the things.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Yeah, that'd be fun. I wouldn't mind that.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

Um now going back to dirty dancing. So I'm feeling a little militant. My drugs are getting differently tonight. I don't know if I don't know if it reads or not. I'm just feeling very calm and relaxed these days. Good. Been making some positive choices in my life. Choices. Choices, leveling out a little bit. Levels. Levels. Um surfaces. Everything's about smooth, flat surfaces for me. Oh my god, we can remember that. We just went to the um Fairfax Farmers Market, the trading post, Melrose Trading Post. Um and got some really great artwork there. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

And um I'd never been, it was great.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

A uh Robert Palmer album and a Duran Duran Rio album. First pressing. It was so pretty. So cool. Yeah. So cool. Um, we got some artwork, and I got this really groovy cocaine poster. And and then it's like everywhere we went, there was like a cocaine neon sign. There was another huge cocaine poster. There were like mirrors everywhere I looked. There were fucking mirrors for sale. And I was like, okay, we gotta go get an A Paul.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

It's gonna it's gonna be the new thing. So you know how Andy Cohen always jokes about weed, and he's like, Oh, we have a chino and smoke a little bit. Oh, but do you partake? All that that's what he does. So now it's gonna be cocaine. He's gonna be making random underhanded jokes about cocaine all the time. Sniff sniff, what's that? Is that around?

SPEAKER_00 29:19

He can't. Because the stigma around cocaine is very different than what most people view pot like today. Oh, I know that, but he's it it's cocaine is the same. Okay, well, if you know that, then I will tell you that he knows that. And I think protecting his revenue stream through Bravo is more important to him than putting himself in a situation where he's gonna get canceled.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

I agree with you. I don't think that literally he is going to start doing that. What I'm saying is that cocaine is the new weed in the sense that like people are trying to find ways to talk about it and like funny ways to slip it in the way that they've been doing it with weed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

Interesting. Oh no, I I mean I honestly just thought it was coincidence.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Oh, yeah, because the world is telling you that we were joking about that. The world's telling you, okay, it's time to start.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

Well, I mean, listen, whether I do it now or I don't, uh, you know, everyone is free to speculate. I like to have a good time. I'm not afraid of being honest about the things that are a part of my journey and my experience. I'm not stupid about stuff. I talk to my doctor about every single fucking thing that I do. And um, you know, like I said, I sometimes I get a little out of control, but then when that happens, I realize I need to reel myself in. And here I am. I mean, I'm 46 years old, first line at 11. Like, I'm not destitute. My brother was uh one of my brothers was a heroine and crystal meth addict. I've seen what real addiction does. I mean, we're we're like almost got his leg amputated, rolled his truck with his two-year-old in it, arrested 19 times, burned his house down. Like, I mean Yeah, you're fine, babe. You don't have to worry about it. No, but I I love the above and beyond my experience, I love taking things that are taboo that society says, ooh, for no other reason except to instill some sort of corrupted, antiquated puritanical value to things. Yeah, totally. So I like being able to to provoke people, to be provocative as an artist in many different ways. And sometimes my art parallels my own life, and sometimes it's drawn from another inspiration. But yeah, I like to have a good time. I'm a party girl and and and and I work hard and I do I hold I've had two jobs for 25 fucking years, and I mean I just I don't know. To each their own, you gotta do what's right for you. I don't drink that much, that's good, right? I don't smoke cigarettes anymore. That's good, right? Is that bad to do?

SPEAKER_03 31:56

Do do do do yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

So I mean, whatever. You know what? You just you gotta have fun, you gotta stop listening to all the static in the air from other people and just focus on you. Just do you, do what makes you happy, do what fulfills you, and do what brings you happiness, and don't let anybody else tell you. Well, I mean, whether it's cocaine, whether it's plastic surgery, whether it's cars or working out. I mean, if you find something that makes you feel centered and balanced, if you find a way of life that makes you feel like you belong here on this journey, do it as long as it doesn't hurt somebody else. And by hurt somebody else, you know, a lot of different interpretations of what hurt can mean. I'm gonna say this don't take away somebody else's free will. Do not take away somebody else's ability to choose for themselves. So, how does that apply? Don't steal from them, don't take away their ability to choose to hold on to their money or to spend it the way that they want. Don't kill somebody because then you're taking away their choice to do anything. Just don't hurt people, don't take away their choice to decide for themselves because we are all owed that. So go out and have a good time, go out and have fun. Just don't drive while you're doing it and don't work while you're well, I don't know. Just don't don't don't be smart. Be smart. Know your limits. Know your limits is what I'm trying to say to you.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Good.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

And and forget about the, like I said, all the ancillary noise and all that other stuff. Um so I guess what else about dirty dancing do we need to talk about?

SPEAKER_01 33:40

There's just one last thing. I uh what's your favorite song from Dirty Dancing? Oh, I I've had the time of my life. Yeah. It's it's kind of the standard. I do love that one.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

Is yes. Yes. As Lisa's walking to Robbie's cabin to have sex with him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

That's my second favorite song. Uh I think my favorite is this song.

SPEAKER_02 34:08

Oh, just hula hunter of come on, I wanna hold up. She will hold her when you have a lovely gift. She wants you to say Brigia Pine that's holding dance, it's being a bird, that's fine.

SPEAKER_05 34:35

I did it. It's always the ball again.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

All the points are the open. And it's worth the point they want to take the best.

SPEAKER_05 35:27

Oh yeah, thanks. Okay. You know I play cards all weekend. I got all my game tonight. I wanted to make it a fine.

SPEAKER_04 35:44

Um, I'm sorry, Mr. Preston, but I'm booked up the whole weekend you have to show on everything, so I won't have time for anything else. I don't think it'd be fair to take the money.

unknown 35:54

And you can work all you want, and you can work with all of all.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

And you can work on all you want, and you can work a ball of walk.