Ozempic is Tipping the Scales

Like much of the US, Nomi has just started on her path to a more healthful self with the help of Ozempic (or specifically in her case, WeGovy). But four weeks into it she can't find it anywhere to continue her treatment!
Why is it so popular? What does it even do? And where can we get some more? Find out more about Nomi's experiences with the latest Weight-Loss-Wonder-Drug on this week's episode.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:18

What are we talking about? What was that?

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Active. No, no, no. Does it make you poop?

SPEAKER_02 0:28

Tell us.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Does it make you poop?

SPEAKER_02 0:32

I you know, I think I may have had it once my entire life. And it was fine. It just tasted like yogurt, but it didn't make me feel Did it have like stuff in it?

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Like wheat wheat germ no uh like chunks. Like could you do did they put fire fruit chunks in it? Did it have fiber in it? Like wheat germ or psyllium husk or I mean what was it? What what did it have in it that made you have to make?

SPEAKER_02 1:03

But I did not feel like doing eat Curtis after having eaten it.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

So I That's because you never had to flee a serial killer for 20 years.

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Uh 16.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Girl, you might flee and shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Hi. Hi. Hold on just a second.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Oh, there we are. Hi. Hi. I couldn't hear myself. It was very weird. I feel bad for everyone listening who wasn't able to hear me because I always have such wonderful things to say. What are we talking about today? We're talking about medication. Ozempic. Ozempzempic.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

Some some summa sema semaglutinol.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

It is a craze, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 1:40

It's a craze.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

And you're talking about Ozempic slash Wakeov slash whatever it is. Is that like is that another one? I didn't haven't heard of that one. I think there's a fourth one. Sounds like Munchhausen.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

And they've just come out with uh like an alternative. So what it's this new super drug that makes you less fat. Well, that's the thing. It's not new. It's it's it's been around since I think the 90s. What? Yeah. And it's for type 2 diabetics to help manage their uh blood sugar processing and insulin regulation.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

So it works on your liver and your pancreas to help them operate better and to function more properly and your liver.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

That's great. And then the Kardiachians figured they could take it to be skinny.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Well, it's like with Botox. Originally, Botox was given to people that had uncontrollable facial muscle ticks or spasms, and they neutralized the muscle to keep the spasms from happening or the ticks from happening, and then they realized that the skin was very smooth because they had neutralized the movement of the muscle. So they realized that the side effect was weight loss. And once the right group of people found that out, um then it it became you know this little industry insider secret. And all the housewives started taking it, of course. And it's like you know, to lose the last 10 pounds for uh the reunion or whatever. Um, but it's not a medication that you're meant to go off of and on and off and on and off and on. It's supposed to be an indefinite or lifelong because you don't heal from type 2 diabetes, it doesn't go away. Um so yeah, so now now the word is out, the jig is up, everybody wants Ozempic. And now, I mean it's like you scroll through TikTok and there's ads to get Ozempic.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

So you know it's like I don't know if these are just like uh Zoom doctors or well, I've been reading that people are are essentially not people, but like there are pharmacists who like make their own Ozempic type compounds because there's a shortage, right?

SPEAKER_00 3:54

Yep, yep, yep, there is. So, and that's the problem now. So the people that need it like really need it, the diabetic. Really need it, like the the diabetics, the people that hit these morbidity markers, right? People that are plagued with metabolic syndrome, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, of course, pre-diabetic, overweight. Um, those are the people that need it and they need to be on it all the time. And then now they can't get it because there's this shortage that has been created by this media frenzy over this miracle weight loss drug.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Yeah, it's the new fenfen.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Um I'm I'm hopeful because I didn't realize this at first um until I saw the process, but it's delivered to consumers in different dosage levels. So you start off with like a quarter, right? Or and then a half and then one and then two. Yes. So the one that I am supposed to be on. You you are supposed to be on it. You're taking it.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Correct. Okay. So my doctor put me on it because my weight has always been a struggle my whole life. I've dealt with an eating disorder since I was 10 years old, and I've done a lot of really bad things to my body, and I've got a lot of um genetic factors that contribute to these comorbidity markers, right? These indications that I might have a decreased life if I don't do this thing or take this drug, right?

SPEAKER_02 5:32

And family history plays into that.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

And it does because on my my father's side of the family, they uh they're all diabetic and uh they all have heart disease, high blood pressure, heart attacks, like dying, bypass surgeries, stuff like that. Yeah. Um so you're a viable candidate. Yes. So um I yeah, so I have I have a body max body mass index that qualifies. I have uh high blood pressure, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, I have um heart disease and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, and the other one I mentioned, which is the um metabolic syndrome. So get them all. Get them all. So tens across the board. This drug is supposed to help my liver and my pancreas work much better and doing the job that they're supposed to do and regulating my blood sugar and my insulin. And studies have shown that people who have type 2 diabetes and have these issues, which high weight tends to be the byproduct of, take this drug and it's it's almost like the new HIV drugs. It's like you're un you become undetectable. Like you look at the lab work and you don't know that you're looking at the lab work of someone who used to be overweight and diabetic. That's great. That's that's a life-saving drug for people that need that. And I uh was prescribed the WeGov, and the the smallest dose was 0.25, and then I took one injection. Sunday was my day, gave myself my injection on Sunday, four weeks, and then I was supposed to go up to 0.5 milligrams, and then I think 0.75, 0.1 It just keeps increasing over time, and slowly working my way up to two, and I really didn't experience any side effects. So I think the side effects come when people are prescribed too strong of a dose, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

Like right off the bat, thinking, oh, if I take a strong dose, then I'm gonna lose those 20 pounds right away.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

100%. And my doctor even said he's like, if I give you a strong dose to start off with, you're going to hate me, and you're gonna be on this for the rest of your life. So there's no rush to get to a certain dosage because we've got plenty of time to get you to that dosage.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

Yeah, we're not going to the Met Gala or anything.

SPEAKER_00 8:01

Right. So then I go to refill my prescription and up the dosage on week five, and now here I am week seven, and I still don't have any because there's a global shortage.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

Which is it's crazy. I I have friends who are who are trying to get it too, and they just can't even get started on it because there's just no um there's none of it available. My hope is that the people who have been on it for a long time and like who need it, need it, like uh people who are diabetic and and helping to control those levels. My hope is that they're using a high enough dose where it's easier for them to get it because those large I I was reading those larger doses are more widely available because so many people right now are starting it right now, and they all are starting on that same 0.25 dose. So it's creating much more of a sort shortage for those smaller doses than it is for the larger doses. Um and hopefully that'll level out and you'll be able to get back on the WeGovy.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

Yeah, it's just hard for me to not think that this is somehow like orchestrated purposefully by the pharmaceutical industry to find a way to make more money off of it. Like OZM. Well, I mean that's so high. We had a global shortage.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

That's the whole point of the US pharmaceutical and medical industry is to make money. So I'm sure they found an opportunity. And these people who are because it is Ozempic the brand and WeGovi is also the brand, right? It's not necessarily the generic version of it. It's just there are different pus, but they're both tissue. There's different brands of the same medication, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Which is semaglutinol, if I'm saying that right. Semaglutatude.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

Semaglutatude. Mono monosodium glutamate.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

That's MSG. That's very good for you.

SPEAKER_02 10:03

Um it's not bad for you, like everyone thought in the 80s.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

No, because the amount that you'd have to consume. It's like with Diet Coke. It's like the amount you'd have to consume of Diet Coke for to have an adverse reaction. You would have an adverse reaction if you drank that much water.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

If I um So I used to work at PF Chang's years ago. Semiglutide?

SPEAKER_00 10:28

Semi semiglutide.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Nice. Semaglutide. Um every day I would have gone.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Semaglutide, get in the house right now. Semaglutide, don't make me pull this car over.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Is glutide the middle name or it's a hyphenated first name?

SPEAKER_00 10:44

Oh, oh no, you can't do that to a child ever. Like Norma Jane. It's it's like the the yeah, it's it's the full name that gets said when she's in trouble. And then her nickname, just normal, is semi. Oh, that's cute. I know.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

Um, so I uh what's what's next? You're just waiting.

SPEAKER_00 11:09

I'm just waiting at this point, and um my doctor is currently on paternity leave, I believe. Yeah. Um, because we share the same doctor. We do. He's um so there's nothing that can be done in terms of being prescribed a new drug because my prescribing doctor is out, and he's not out long enough that someone else wants to take over the case because an alternative person did reach out to me. And they're like, we just need you to, you know, wait till your doctor is back and discuss alternatives.

SPEAKER_02 11:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

Or in the meantime, maybe something will come through and I'll I'll get a call from the pharmacy and they'll be like, okay, your prescription's now ready. I'm like, okay, great. I missed a week. All right, let's that's good. So they are gonna call you back and let you know. I hope I mean one would think you're on the waiting list.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

One would think. You would hope, but who knows? Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Who knows? So, yeah, so to all the the uh housewives out there that need to lose those 10 pounds before the reunion, or all those women out there that need to lose those last 10 pounds before your fucking gender reveal party where you're just gonna gain it all back anyway. Knock it off because there are those of us that actually really need it and now we don't have it.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

Yeah. Stop it. Stop. Stop. Stop. Oh my god, Ron, stop, stop. Um, I talked to our doctor, I talked to our doctor about getting on it myself because I'm uh about 70 pounds overweight. I'm big. I'm big right now, but that's okay. Um and in talking, not saying like, oh my god, I need to get on this, please. It was like, hey, let's have a serious discussion about what that means if I were to be on this medication.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

And because our doctor is a real doctor, and you have to have the lab work and the doctor's office visits in order to get authorized by insurance for it. Right. So he had to run lab work and have that conversation in the same way that he did with me.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

It wasn't like a pop prescription.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

No, no, no, no. And and uh I value that because it was nice to be able to sit and have a conversation and just say, like, hey, yeah, what is my issue? It's not blood pressure, it's not um like high cholesterol that running in my family, it's not any of that like terrible family history stuff that could potentially be life-threatening. It's really just the fact that I overeat and I don't pay attention to what I'm eating and I don't get enough exercise. And that sounds really stupid and simple, but that's only because it is really stupid and really simple. Like I just need to get up off my ass and do something, and I need to stop eating so much, and I can feel better. Right. So that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Your lab work came back and everything looked normal.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Yeah, for the most part. I mean, there's stuff like triglycerides and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

So you as an individual is hitting those comorbidity markers. My lab work looks like someone who is in good health. Yeah. My lab work looks like someone who is not in good health because my liver enzymes are elevated and my triglycerides are elevated, and my uh cholesterol is elevated, my blood pressure is elevated. So honestly, and this all started, this all happened when I quit smoking. So Arch I should just fucking pick up a parliament light again and then be healthy.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Yeah, do it and then take the tests and see how you do.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

Um I'm here to take some tests.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

Yeah, that'll make our podcast sound great.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Um, yeah, I could totally do like the whole Kathleen Turner bit.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Gross. She's not gross. So I'm not on it. And we talked about just not needing it. Yeah. Right. I just need to get up off my ass. So that's what I'm doing. So yay for that. Uh well, I I hope that you find it soon.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

I would like to, but the truth is it was one month, and like my doctor said, there's no rush because I'm gonna be on it for the rest of my life, and eventually this thing is gonna get straightened out or it's gonna get regulated. And so it's not like I had to uh, and it's not like I have an event that I'm banking on having this Ozempic for so that I can lose this weight. If I don't get it, we'll then not be able to lose the weight and then go into this irrational rage because I've created this expectation in my mind. It's like, okay, my treatment has been delayed. How fortunate am I that I have a treatment for something that has been a constant battle for me and it's not life-threatening at this moment? I'll take that over someone that's lying in a hospital bed waiting for a fucking liver or a kidney so that they can move on with their life. Like that's yeah, you know, it's totally perspective. So I'm just sitting here chilling like a villain, and when I get the call that uh, you know, that the semaglutide in any form, um, I'll take anyone, Ozambique, Ozempic, Ozambique, uh, uh, how you say those Monjaro, uh uh Ozempic, Monjaro, We Govi, Wagovi, whatever, uh, the fourth one. I mean, if it works all the same, I don't care about the label. Um, yeah, so I'm just waiting for it to get back in stock, and then I can I can resume my treatment.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Well, you were also you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

But in the meantime, I'm being better about what I choose to pay attention to, like what you were saying earlier. Like I'm just paying a little bit more attention, and I'm not just going like it's not like a free-for-all each day anymore, right? Good. So at least, you know, what we do at least a salad a day. I eat once a day now. So I have a salad with my meal or like a big serving of vegetables like the broccoli we had last night.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

I mean, it's a guide. You're just doing the best that you can and you're trying to be more aware of it.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

I think I feel like in situations like it's hard when you have an eating disorder combined with like a physiological problem that triggers the eating disorder. Yeah, of course it is. Of course it's hard.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

You're just doing the best that you can. Yeah, but I guess my best wasn't good. Nope. Um You'd mentioned uh like as far as perspective goes and and thinking like, oh my god, if I had an event, what would I do? That's not what this is for either, because it doesn't work that way.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

No, it's not a quick fix.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

No, I was talking to the doctor about your own experience um because you were on it for about three weeks before I even went in to talk to him about it, and um saying how initially you were frustrated because you weren't really seeing any results.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

No.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

Um, but he had mentioned you don't even begin to see results until like weeks. Six weeks in.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

So But I think that's if you're doing starting at the lowest dose and stepping up every four weeks. I think a lot of people are jumping straight to like that midline zone or just give me, give me it all and power through the side effects just to be on that strong dose to lose that weight more quickly.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Yeah. I mean, it's like with anything, how it's supposed to be. It's like with anything else. It's anything else. People want a quick fix for anything, they want they want a quick get rich, quick scheme. They want a quick get skinny, quick. Like they just need it right now. We are all about instant gratification.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Me too. I wanted it. I wanted to start happening the first week, the lowest dose.

SPEAKER_02 18:58

And that's just not how stuff happens.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Here we go. Five pounds down.

SPEAKER_02 19:01

Well, you said to me, you said to me years ago, like it took time for us to get this fat. It's gonna take time for us to get thin again.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

I know I said that, but I said that before You said that because you were talking about me and not yourself. I said that I said that before we lost all that weight in 2020. And then we kept it off for a couple years, which they did. Well, you did say is then all of a sudden it just came back fast and furious.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

Yeah, because I just didn't give a fuck anymore. I just wanted to eat. That's all. I just I just wanted to eat. I'm a very I know, but I'm talking about that.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

This is a reference point to what you had just said.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

No, I'm just that's just for me. I'm hanging on to that. I'm I'm giving myself grace and knowing that it took months for me to get this weight gained. It's gonna take some time for me to lose the weight, and I'm okay with that because I'm gonna take the time to do it and do it right.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Yeah, I'm my point is that after I've already been there, done that, and gone through that process, I don't wanna have to find the patience to go through that again, having gained the weight back again. You don't have a choice, babe.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

Again, it's just how it goes.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

I know. Well, if there's anybody out there that wants to sponsor Nomi Moore's liposuction. Oh my god, please don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

I don't need every time I I'm so anxious. Every time you go into some sort of like medical thing that isn't necessarily like a necessity.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Like Elective.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

Yeah, thank you, elective. Every time you do anything elective, I I'm in like anxious mode because it's just it's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

Girl, have you seen my face?

SPEAKER_02 20:49

Yeah, I know, but it's like when you went and got LASIK, and then for the next two weeks you thought you were blind. Oh, yeah. Oh, I see what you're saying. I don't like I I just don't want to attempt fate with that kind of stuff. But I get why you're doing it. I'm not telling you not to do it, it just makes me feel that way in those moments. So the idea of you getting liposuction when you don't really need liposuction, we just need to go back to the gym and stop eating so much, in addition to what you're trying to do with WeGovi.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

I understand that. I'm saying that in response to your patient's comments. Yeah. And how I don't have patience. No, but that's for everything, it's not just waking. So because I don't have patience while my husband is busy working out, if there's somebody out there that would like to sponsor my um my my my self-care embeddement. Yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

I like that.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

Email and we'll give you the the Venn mode.

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That's a great way to essentially say. Good. Oh, by the way, did you hear the uh Apple Supermodels series is still happening? They have a release date and everything. Fantastic. Yeah, I sent it to you. I don't remember what date it was, but check it out. Um that's been like on hold for my god.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

It's been years. It's like let's cook some shit.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Well, I'm I'm wondering if maybe they were waiting.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

I just plugged our one of our own. Synergistic programs right there.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Let's cook some shit.

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Thank you. I was thinking that maybe they were waiting for the case. I mean, if you're not excited about it, how can we expect our listeners and viewers to be excited?

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Oh, I didn't realize it was actually happening.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

No, I'm saying it's like let's cook some shit. It's just like delay after delay after delay, one episode is shot, and then we don't do anything for three months. It's like failure to launch.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Yeah. Well, there's a lot of gay cooking shows out there. We just have to make ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Well, we have a new kitchen now. So there you go.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

So if you guys would like to now with new kitchen.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

If you guys would like to see us uh uh in our in our new kitchen, if you'd like to see us revamp the show Let's Cook Some Shit. Yes, if you care to watch us cook things, let us know. Emails hello at mr and misses dot show. Or on Instagram. Just say reach out to us on Instagram. And what ideas you have for our cooking show, Let's Cook Some Shit, because we've been talking about it, yes, once again. And um every once in a while, someone else will bring it up to us. So let's see if we can. A lot of you have been asking. A lot of you have been asking like Where's Let's Cook Some Show? I've been getting so many emails.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

I really like that episode when you embarrassed Robert in front of the sink. So I'm like hoping that there's more of that.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

But nothing that you can ever like, you know, prove that I have all these requests for this content that I'm gonna put out. Anyway. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Accountability.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Accountability. Yeah, so uh, if you want to see us try to revamp Let's Cook Some Shit, then we're we're down. Just send us a little birdie with a note tied to his foot.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

I like that. Let's cook some shit brought to you by the Mr. and Mrs. Show and sponsored by WeGovi.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Hey, WeGovi. Orozempic. I just need my stash, man. Let's partner up and then I'll cook with WeGovi.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

Ew, what if you could? I don't think so. How would you do that?

SPEAKER_00 24:22

I don't think so. Anyway, I was, but I do want to be honest and also say that I was very much looking forward to be able to lose some of this weight that I've gained over the last year. And um it's disappointing to have my treatment stalled, even though I'm like, hey, it could, you know, it could be worse. It's just a stalled treatment, it's not life-threatening. I just have to make better choices until I can have that help in my back pocket again. Um, so I I was looking forward to that. But you know, I even said at the very beginning, before my doctor looked at my lab work, and I was like, I just don't feel right doing it just for weight loss because there are people out there that have actual medical conditions that can become life-threatening that won't be able to get this medication. And then it turns out I was one of those people.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

Yeah. Well, and and like fenfen, it's not a cure-all where you get to eat whatever the fuck you want while still continuing to lose weight.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

Well, no, that's the perception that some people have. No, it operates differently than fenfen. Right. From what I understand and what I started to experience, even on that lowest dose, is that you don't want to eat anything that you want to eat. Like it really does curb your appetite, but not in a speedy way. You just don't reach that point where you start to feel hungry. Now, maybe my experience would be slightly different as somebody that has had an eating disorder and someone that wrestles with bouts of anorexia.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Results may vary.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Results may vary. So I, you know, it's I don't know if it's like some sort of personal trigger warning for me, but you don't want to eat whatever you can whenever you want. And you're not, I wasn't constantly thinking about food all the time. I was thinking about the fact that I wasn't thinking about it, which then would make me think about it. But by that fourth week, I guess it just starts building up in the system each week. I started feeling a little bit more of what I expected from my experience with this drug, which was curbed appetite, less thought about food. Um, I just had to make sure that I continued to keep drinking because I found that that not only did it make me not want, it didn't make me not want to eat, but it kept me from thinking about food when food wasn't relevant. But the same thing for drinking. So I had to make sure that I didn't get dehydrated and I had to make sure that I had still drank plenty of fluids because it was almost like being on coke. Not speed, but coke, where your appetite's just like slightly dampened, not like meth, where it's just like completely obliterated. Great. Like you could eat through it if you wanted to. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 27:13

No, but I take your word for it. Um and that's good. And I and I think that once we get it back and you're back on track with it, I think it will be really helpful. At least that's a hope.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

Well, and he says that I have to be on it for the rest of my life, but I'm also really hoping that with this crutch, so to speak, provides um motivation for me to get to a point where I can finally, finally, finally establish a healthy relationship with diet and exercise, that I create an environment in my body that no longer needs this drug. I like that. Thanks, me too. So that's that's the goal. So even me, as someone who's been told that this is something you're gonna be on indefinitely, wants to use it as a crutch to get to a place where I can like run forest, run my way out of my way, Govy uh crutches.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

Well, I mean, that's where we're at with it now. And hopefully you'll be able to get back on it and we'll we can come back with a part two, and you could talk about your experiences like months from now.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

But the marker isn't oh, once I'm down this many pounds. Oh great, mission accomplished. It's hey, look, for the last year now, your quarterly lab work has come back normal, normal, normal, normal, normal. Let's see what happens when we take Wakeovi out of the equation.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

And then I would like it to be the lifestyle choices I made while being on Wakeovy to get off of Wakeovi rather than just looking at it as an easy way out. Right. Then allows me to kind of release myself from that shackle because I'm not looking to take it at a high dose for a couple months to lose 10 pounds real quick.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Well, and you deserve better.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

You deserve to treat yourself better. Yeah, I agree with that. That's a whole nother podcast. All right, gang. We'll talk to you soon. All right, thanks for listening. Talk to you again. Bye. If you guys have any We Go V leads, let us know. Bye. Bye Black Market We go.