Ever wondered what makes "The Office" such an iconic show? Come on board as we embark on a delightful journey, revisiting the cherished British mockumentary, "The Office." Unearth the brilliance and humor behind this much-loved classic as we dissect its two-part Christmas special. We'll be exchanging our personal experiences of watching it multiple times, illuminating the power dynamics in the office, discussing Brent's desperate attempts at fame, and shedding light on Dawn's return from America.
As we stride further into this exploration, we uncover how this special sets the stage for character evolution. We'll take you on a deep dive into the characters' storylines, highlighting Tim's dissatisfaction with his job, Dawn's unrealized aspirations, and the recurring theme of dreams falling short. We'll navigate the world of David Brent, his life transition, and his attempts to become a traveling salesman and entertainer. Expect to delve into awkward office interactions, the wince-inducing blind date skit, and the dynamics and relationships between the characters.
Brace yourselves for the grand finale as we dissect the final moments of the beloved series. The heartwarming scene where Brent proudly watches Tim and Dawn reunite will be the focus of our discussion. We'll also be announcing our plans for the holiday season, including our first Watch Along of the He-Man She-Ra Christmas Special from December 1985. So, gear up for a refreshing, in-depth, and entertaining exploration of "The Office." Your love for the show is bound to multiply after this podcast, so don't miss out!
Ever wondered what makes "The Office" such an iconic show? Come on board as we embark on a delightful journey, revisiting the cherished British mockumentary, "The Office." Unearth the brilliance and humor behind this much-loved classic as we dissect its two-part Christmas special. We'll be exchanging our personal experiences of watching it multiple times, illuminating the power dynamics in the office, discussing Brent's desperate attempts at fame, and shedding light on Dawn's return from America.
As we stride further into this exploration, we uncover how this special sets the stage for character evolution. We'll take you on a deep dive into the characters' storylines, highlighting Tim's dissatisfaction with his job, Dawn's unrealized aspirations, and the recurring theme of dreams falling short. We'll navigate the world of David Brent, his life transition, and his attempts to become a traveling salesman and entertainer. Expect to delve into awkward office interactions, the wince-inducing blind date skit, and the dynamics and relationships between the characters.
Brace yourselves for the grand finale as we dissect the final moments of the beloved series. The heartwarming scene where Brent proudly watches Tim and Dawn reunite will be the focus of our discussion. We'll also be announcing our plans for the holiday season, including our first Watch Along of the He-Man She-Ra Christmas Special from December 1985. So, gear up for a refreshing, in-depth, and entertaining exploration of "The Office." Your love for the show is bound to multiply after this podcast, so don't miss out!
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Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to Living with Maidalee. This is a TV nostalgia podcast. My name is Andre Agassay and I am joined by Leanne Battersby. How are you going? Buyakasha, good, imagine Leanne Battersby saying that in a coronation stream Buyakasha, no, seriously, my name is Andrew and his name is Liam and hello, yeah, and what we? This is exciting times, I think. Season's greetings, season's greetings, yeah. So when you listen to this, a little bit December and we're going to try our best to do the 12, well, you want to call it the 12 May Lizard Christmas. I think the 12 days of Maidalee sounds better.
Speaker 3:So we might keep swapping, right, I think, yeah by the time this goes out it'll be released for the title, so we will have known. But this is we're recording in November. We're doing a Jules Holland, aren't we? We've got festive sort of decorations out, but it's still November.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So because to get 12, we're trying to get 12 episodes into Christmas, all Christmas themed episodes and we're out. So we're going to have to record in November to get to get ahead of the game, aren't we really? We've got very busy people.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So we're having a Mold wine, with Christmas songs on the radio and we're in the festive spirits I've genuinely.
Speaker 2:I've actually been watching Christmas Stop of the Pots from 1986.
Speaker 3:Is that one episode we're doing, or just no, just I, just I just, I just want to do it in my spare time, you're doing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I do, but anyway. First off, we have got something that everyone's been asking for for ages to do an episode on the office. We're going to do it last year, but here it is the office Christmas special.
Speaker 3:So first thing I'll say is this is we're doing Christmas themed episodes, so this is about the two part, christmas special. Obviously there are two series that proceed this, so we're not doing this about that. We might come back to the office, but basically a really quick summary. There was a BBC mockumentary so a spoofed documentary and it was set in an office in Slough Wernemhog was the office and it's a paper mill and the backstory in its very simplest form is we had an office manager who clearly was operating at a decent level, but a camera crew came in and he just focused on being an entertainer rather than an office manager and the last thing that we saw in the final episode of series two, he lost his job and Dawn the receptionist had moved to America. There, the kind of two key was moving to America. There the two keen points you need to know.
Speaker 2:But the very end of the second series, Tim another big character in this asked Dawn out and Dawn turned him down. So it was a really sad ending because and they didn't know that we were going to make Christmas special, and so Brent lost his job and Tim and Dawn don't get together.
Speaker 3:And I quite like that to be honest, because that's life, isn't it, you know? Things aren't finished perfectly, and that was it. We weren't expecting any more, but this is three years later now and we've gone back. It's almost like a where are they now, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:So the BBC have decided to commission this Christmas special to look back on this documentary they made, and we're going to meet all the different characters again and see what they're up to. So that's where we start. I'll play the. It could get quite clip heavy because, as with so many other stuff we've done, this is brilliant. By the way, I'm not going to save judgment for the end. I think it's fantastic TV.
Speaker 2:It is. I've got this on DVD and I haven't watched it, obviously because it has DVD plays anymore, but I put it in and got it on to watch it and I forgot how great it was. To be honest, I'm laughing all the way through it.
Speaker 3:I've watched it so many times. I reckon I've watched this with you about 20 times and I probably watched it loads and loads of times on my own. But yeah, anyway, we'll start off with Brent kind of setting the scene of how he thought the series went.
Speaker 4:And the BBC must have taken away about eight hours footage a day and they got it back and most of it was like you know, oh look, there's a good guy is getting on. He's their friend as well as their boss. He's a motivator and entertainer with lots of good stuff, always made one mistake, like any human would. Should we just cut that out? No, what? Put that bit in? Cut the other stuff out. We want to scapegoat, we want to dumb down, we want to give them the biggest plonker of the year.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm not a plonker, I'm not going to slag it off, I suppose I am in a way but the quite formulaic, like a lot of Brent's things, where he does a kind of you know, he does a statement, then pauses and then adds or contradicts himself at the end, and not one of his best. That I'm not a plonker.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like the one of the ones that stands out is in the series where he says but he says he's talking about dogs, he's trying to make a crap metaphor, because that's croft. I love that.
Speaker 2:This is not one of his best. I have to admit, I remember watching this when it first came out. I think you look wrong because I remember being gutted at home. I worked day after day so I couldn't go out. I think you went to Gatecrusher banging tunes and then I was at home watching this and I remember watching that, first the first two or three minutes and obviously it had not been on for three years. I was so looking forward to it. The first five, I don't know four or five minutes or thinking, oh, it's not as good, but luckily it is as good. And when I look back it is still good the first four or five minutes. But I think I was expecting that much and don't dive straight in today.
Speaker 3:I mean something that I thought was interesting, actually that I'd never really thought about in the first series, but I suppose obviously the case. But which is what Brent says is we? It's a mockumentary, but if it was a documentary, if this had been a real thing about a real office? It basically says look, it took eight hours or 40 days a day and condense that down to loads of short clips for me doing stupid stuff, which, yeah, I mean that obviously that is what they do, isn't it? That's good TV. We don't want to see him doing a good meeting.
Speaker 2:We want to see him trying to do what the cameras to come back. Then he felt sorry for whole, but I think by this one well. Well, I know why.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'll get to the same game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the entirety of this. There's two, there's only. It's easy to get through because there's only two real stories running through it. One is Brent trying to get a girlfriend and trying to become as famous as possible, and the other one is Dawn. We'll get to coming back from America to visit people.
Speaker 3:Exactly, yeah, and that's a really good summary, and that's it. With these Christmas ones? Yeah, we'll finish there Living. No, there's more to it. But what with these Christmas ones? Because we're going to release, hopefully one every couple of days, every two to three days. Don't want to go into massive detail I've got a lot of notes but if I'm going into too much of the detail kind of just skip me on a little bit. But I'll take you to the story.
Speaker 3:So, first of all, there's a new sort of power dynamic in the office. Gareth is the boss. He's replaced David Brent.
Speaker 2:Now respect for Gareth because, obviously Gareth. Gareth is now Tim's boss, whereas before he wasn't. Was it Because he had that argument in the series about who were more in charge of the other? But Tim still treats Gareth exactly, so locks him in his office. Done in the first season, exactly, yeah.
Speaker 3:So he goes yeah, lock me in again. Brilliant line. And then Gareth has to phone the new secretary. So Dawn's replacement I actually written down her name, I don't think now. But yeah, so she's not up for the joke, she's not in for any banter, she just kind of says I've got to go and let him out Because he's asked. And you see Tim's just look of sort of sadness, really like yeah, I mean I've seen actually on the on the Ricky Gervais show that they asked Carl Pilton what he thinks and he said yeah, preferred second one to the first one. And yeah, gervais says yeah, probably would expect that the first one is his setup. And that's exactly what it is. We're setting the scene. So we've not seen him for three years. We've got to establish where these characters are and what they're up to, get ready for the second half.
Speaker 2:So Tim still hates his job. Obviously Gareth's the manager now. He asked the he.
Speaker 3:Of all the characters, gareth's the one that's changed the most, I think he has, but, as we'll see, it's all a bit of a pretence, isn't it? He's the second character. Essentially he's not. He acts like he has more power, but nobody seems to give him any more respect. We see, sorry, brent goes to a fruit shop. Love, I Calls it Fruit and Veg Emporium.
Speaker 3:It's really good at delivering sort of words and over-emphasis them. They meet a character and it's this kind of thing of Brent's in this space where he's. He kind of made it. He was on TV but he's not really famous and people don't really know he is, but he sort of thinks he's bigger than he is and yeah, there's a really funny scene. I'm not going to play a clip, but the guy in the shop who clearly has no idea who he is, but Brent's desperate to try and sort of get it accepted that yeah, I'm famous and you know who I am. Come on, you know. And the next clip I'm going to play, because when we went away on our roadshow we kept saying this all the time out of context. But I love the when he says he's been recognized but he gets called different names. I love the last one, so I played a clip.
Speaker 4:Is that sort of thing happening a lot. Getting recognized, yeah, I mean, usually they know specifically who I am. He recognized me. It kicked himself later Is it having a problem. Um, I mean, you always get the old person who doesn't appreciate what you're doing shouts any things.
Speaker 1:but what sort of things?
Speaker 4:You beardy twat, pugnose gimp lard boy and I go yeah, what have you ever done on telly? Nothing, so don't absolutely flabulous.
Speaker 2:Absolutely amazing, brilliant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we kept all time saying to each other we're absolutely flabulous.
Speaker 2:Absolutely flabulous. Yeah so, yeah. So, brent, the whole thing with Brent, as I said, is just about him trying to be famous. He's sort of walking into like rooms and looking around the TV room. Now this is him and stuff, and he's. Even though he's come across he admits he's come across as a complete dick on this documentary, it's sort of not bothered because he's a bit famous. Now, that's all he ever wanted from this documentary, really, isn't it? When the first came here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's kind of creating a monster, haven't they? So they gave him some airtime and this sort of sleeping part of him that probably always dreamed of being this sort of entertainment star. It's just unlocked the door now and he's out.
Speaker 2:It's interesting that on the actual office, where it's not in this, but when he calls himself a comedian, it doesn't say like I want to be a comedian. He says you know I am a comedian, yeah, so now in his head he is famous.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Basically he's a chilled out entertainer, doesn't?
Speaker 2:he, yeah, chilled out entertainer, and I think that's brilliant about him, that it's almost like finally someone's recognised that I am a comedian but he's not a comedian?
Speaker 3:No, he's not, and he's barely famous, and I think this is kind of something that we see throughout. It's such a low level of fame. I mean it's not even like there's a big brother celebrity in it later actually but it's not even like a brother celebrity who gets a moment of fame. He's just had a glimpse of it. It's so far away from it really, but yeah, it's an ongoing theme throughout that he's kind of made it, but actually he's not.
Speaker 2:But the other thing going throughout is he absolutely misses his job, doesn't he? As the manager in the office?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he can't keep away. There's loads and loads of it where he's basically just any excuse to go back in and see, and I want to play a clip here, if that's possible.
Speaker 2:This is when he first goes back into the office and Gareth is now the manager. This is where the dynamics change. Gareth used to adore Brent, absolutely adore him, and stick it up for him and sort of cry him when he lost his job and all this sort of stuff. And this is now the changing dynamic. This is when Brent goes into the office to meet Gareth.
Speaker 4:Well, I bought that from HealthWords. Oh, here he is, there's weather and Nick, my job, didn't want anymore. He did, he did, he did. How are you talking about? He's had more often now that he doesn't work here, and he was when he did work here. It's nice to see you. Well, it's nice for them to see me. That's why I pop in so disruptive, not disruptive. It's good for them, so it's good for the company, so it should be good for you Always nice to see you. It's always nice for them to see me.
Speaker 3:He's here in the whole lot. Now I am here in the whole lot, but I never have stayed more welcome, so you should call ahead, not on the call ahead.
Speaker 4:You're not a doctor. When you're a doctor, I'm making an appointment. I've already liked you to be a doctor. I know that you are no. Six years medical training. He's got one O level, always welcome. Maybe you should call ahead. I'm going to call ahead, no point. Then I'll lock the door. Yeah, I'm still getting. Let's see. I'm not going to call ahead.
Speaker 2:This clip is. If I, if someone said some of the office, I think I play this clip because it's horrible to watch. It's so cringy. You like that on them, but it's unbelievably funny as well. You like when people say it's cringe comedy. This is why I know Brent does more embarrassing things, but this awkwardness between them like I'm not going to call ahead, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:The fake laugh, the grin into camera. Yeah, it's brilliant, it's really well done, and it only becomes cringy if it's believable and it is. I get why some people. It's a bit too much. It's like, oh God, you kind of crawling in your skin for both of them. Basically, there's no winner in that scenario.
Speaker 2:I really like that they've made Gareth. He's totally lost respect for him and I don't know whether that's because he's now the manager. He's seen himself on a power, or he realises how bad of a job Brent were doing because he's now the manager or what.
Speaker 3:I don't know what it is, but the shift dynamic is brilliant, I think there's some stuff to I've got to kind of come to on Brent a bit later on. But yeah, possibly that's signs of something I'm going to bring up later on. But yeah, Gareth has kind of decided that he's no longer the what would you say he's no longer the. Declining plans, yeah, or the kind of the one to be trodden on, and you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a misdeed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly yeah, yeah, he's a misdeed.
Speaker 2:Well, or even he's better, because he's got the job that Brent wants and he knows that.
Speaker 3:And something I want to mention here. When we come into the office space, so there's a character in there and she's called Anne and she's part of the finance team, who sits near Tim. Now that she looks up, her name is Elizabeth Barrington. I think she's so well written and so well acted. Because she's so unpleasant. You find she's awful. Yeah, you'll see later on there's a reason for that. As a payoff that comes off that.
Speaker 2:But we're in a scene, in every scene. I've seen her in a couple of things. She's funny, she plays. She's the horriblest character, I think, in the entire thing, everything.
Speaker 3:Little like sort of little noises and little like just everything about us. There's a really smug scene where she asks Tom Tim if he wants to send a letter out and he says yeah, please, yeah. And she's like, oh right, you want to send it out like that, do you? And he says yeah, oh, because it is 2002. She's so smorgasbord horrible. Yeah, it's really really well written, that character.
Speaker 2:And there's another bit like where she's talking about how she pushes in. Is it all on the towers? Yeah, yeah, we've got to know that she pushes in part of the actual sick kids and says that her kid's sick and stuff. She's just a horrible, horrible person. Well, as you said, we'll get to the end and we'll get to that.
Speaker 3:Even the bit where she's just kind of slurping yoga off the yoga top. It's disgusting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's horrible and he's just looking at her and saying, doing his famous or infamous, maybe now wide-eyed expressions.
Speaker 3:I love that bit, by the way, from the clip you play, where it comes back in the office Tim oh. I don't think we played that bit. We played Gareth, didn't we? Yeah, it's just like back in. I love that. It's a sign of somebody returning to an office who did the work there, where he says Cromwell's still on your case, yeah.
Speaker 1:I love that. It's like pick a name yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's still dealing with Fredbury. It's like just pick a name everyone knows and throw it in there and that proves who you were.
Speaker 2:Brilliant, absolutely amazing. That Is this, the scene on the deleted scenes where he comes in and he says Tim, canterbury, bishop of Canterbury, bishop Nazarazu, I didn't make the final two.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure. Yeah, because that's a bit where well, obviously it's. Martin Freeman says what are you doing? That will never not be funny. I can't not laugh at that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's definitely out, because he would just laugh in that much, bishop Nazarazu.
Speaker 3:We go across to America and we're in Florida it's Tampa, actually the area of Florida, but and we see Dornanley. So these are the characters. Dornanley is the secretary previously.
Speaker 2:Sorry is it?
Speaker 3:actually receptionist Receptionist, sorry. And yeah, he's the one that Tim has asked out a couple of times. Kind of backfire both times, really.
Speaker 2:And I like how they do this, because she comes on and she's holding a baby and it looks like she's had a kid, doesn't it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you think, all right, they've kind of settled down, found their own place, it turns out the living with Lee sister. They've kind of out stayed their visa. They're not really working, at least sort of just some bathing, quite smug that you only need to earn a pittance here. We're not paying rent and Dornanley's kind of making light of the situation but clearly isn't happy. She's not happy now. By the way. I don't know if you noticed this. I've never noticed this until we came to review it for this episode. But what they do very well throughout, every time we see Tim or Dornanley it cuts to the other one and you can see they're both not happy in their current situation.
Speaker 2:All right, I didn't know that. I mean, the thing is with Tim I've wrote that down. Actually, he still hates his job. He keeps saying he's going to become a psychologist, doesn't he? Like in the old series, like I'm going to go back to you and I'm going to go back to Colour and you know, because I'm like this and I suppose you ought to agree with it. We all do things like this, don't we? Where you say I'll do that soon and then you never do it and life just carries on. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think. But there's some people who it's just comfortable but not happy.
Speaker 3:But I think there's some people who do believe yeah well, I will do that one day. We know a couple of people who kind of yeah, I'll probably do that one day.
Speaker 3:I think the sadness in Tim and Dorn is that they've kind of accepted the situation that you know, they're saying oh yeah, I'm still going to try and do this, but they kind of know they're not and that's what sad is. They're not happy. Like I say, I'm pretty sure it might be wrong. There might be a couple of examples, but it seems to me like every time we see one or the other, we're followed by the other one and they're both not happy.
Speaker 2:And it's still about, like you know, about that, dreams and stuff not coming true. We should probably mention, because it comes back later, that Dorn has dreams of being an illustrator and artist, don't you so?
Speaker 3:yeah, and that was one of the things that she went over there was going to give her time to focus on being an illustrator. We cut to.
Speaker 2:What do you think Lee Sorry, what do you think Lee is a character like? So he gets a lot of steak. I think I think you know he's got this guy who's basically been after his girlfriend for like two series running. Are you doing that much wrong?
Speaker 3:No, I think the difference in this and this is obviously they have to kind of put these plot devices in. I think we see a Not darker side to him, but I think in the two series he's just a guy who goes out with her and he's just getting about his business while this other guy is trying it on with her and you kind of feel like Tim is a bit out of order. Really, even if they're not a perfect fit, they are together. But in this the kind of shots start showing much more of Lee's. You know, I don't know. He's got nothing really to offer, has he?
Speaker 3:He seems to just want to sit sunbathing all day. He doesn't really engage with her, he doesn't really listen to her very much. Yeah, you kind of. I think they need to set that up, that there's more than just a perfect fit, that actually maybe it's not working at all.
Speaker 3:We get a Tim chat here where he's very kind of honest and awkward and he's talking about how, yeah, just how kind of things didn't end Now he wanted them to and things could have been different. And I actually think Marty Freeman's acting I know he kind of got stick for just doing his, like you said, turn to camera with big eyes yeah, I think there's some really good acting in this. I think Tim's kind of Some of it really steals the shows a bit, particularly later on that we'll mention. We go back to Gareth and David in this sort of power struggle again and there's a brilliant bit here I'll play a clip from it when they're talking about, basically, david. When they got rid of it, they tried to offer Gareth his new job and you can't make someone redundant if that role still exists or something like that. So he sued them. They didn't talk about what he did with the money.
Speaker 1:That was just because of your redundancy thing. They couldn't call the job the same thing. And he sued them, did you?
Speaker 4:win. Oh yes, that's a fair you off, didn't it? Yeah, out of course settlement, so quite a lot of money, but you're wasting most of it. Though I didn't waste it. Tell me what you spent it on. I released my own single. So if that's a waste of money, but it is a waste of money because you didn't even get in the top 100. Good, didn't want it to.
Speaker 1:Next, how much did that cost To put in that single?
Speaker 4:Costs is a bit misleading, because I was paying for everything. I paid for the studio time, pr costs all myself, roughly. How much do you think you spent? Roughly 42,000 pounds, horrible.
Speaker 2:And it makes him more of a loser. I think it's all to have sympathy for Brent anyway, and the first two series you were really all to have sympathy for him and you sort of wanted him to fail because he was such a buffoon and he needed a wake-up call. But I think they set this up quite well, that you do start having a bit more. You know you start feeling a bit sorry for him. He's an idiot, but everything his life's just fallen apart really, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 3:And even Gareth that he spent two series kind of looking down on it is where he wants to be and that's still his job. That Brent wants yeah, he kind of wants both worlds. He wants all this fame stuff going on, but he wants to be the office manager again. And that's Gareth and he's very, very jealous. Neil comes in.
Speaker 2:Neil's convention. If you've not seen it before, neil is the manager of David Brent. They were equals. But then the Slough branch got moved into the Swindon branch and David Brent were going to be the manager and he felt like blood pressure. So he felt, you know the medical, because he had blood pressure and he absolutely fucking hates Neil for being his boss, don't he basically?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and until this. And, by the way, fred, explaining anything to you in the first series, because you haven't seen him, rather than just a refresher, forget this, turn this off now and just go and start watching the office, because you're missing out. So hopefully we're just giving you a couple of little refreshers here. Yeah, the difference in this and again this is where you start seeing slight differences in character, because it's almost more of a film, this, and they've got to get a story across quite quickly.
Speaker 3:So I think quite well written because it's not unfounded. But previously Neil's always just been a bit uncomfortable around David, whereas in this he does actually seem quite irritated with him and start to actually resent David actually, I think.
Speaker 2:I think he's a lot more. Cocky is the wrong word, but he's a lot more. He's less possible in around him, but Neil comes across as a really good guy in the series because he Brent's been a complete dick to him and he never really rises to it and he's trying to be professional and but in this I think he's adding off, but Brent keeps coming into the office tonight, like you know. It don't work there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it was a bit later on where he becomes sort of more forceful with him. But yeah, and it's done quite well because you're sort of watching it and you're enjoying David being in there, but it doesn't work there. He's got no place being in this office, hasn't he? He's just a guy who's one of the inner used to work there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just keeps coming back in and back in. Is this the bit as well where Neil says he's getting married?
Speaker 3:No, that's tiny bit further on that.
Speaker 2:Oh sorry, Carry on.
Speaker 3:So this is a little bit where he asks him how it's going, he says oh dear, you know, as our full well it's going. He's desperate to present this image of success, brent. And then, after he just told us our well it's going, it cuts to the scene of him eating his sandwiches on the roadside, like you're holding a chef in a hideaway Brilliant, yeah, yeah. I love that scene. I think it's so well shot from the BBC and from how, yeah.
Speaker 2:If you don't know how it is, give me a follow on Twitter, because you're in for all sorts of treats.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, it's not really relevant to this, is it? But this particular scene is worth a mention. So yeah, it's a good deal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just really well done. And it shows this, I don't know. He's telling everyone how great he's doing and then he's eating sandwiches on the side of the road. This is Brent, not Hal, I'm sure. Hal is doing very well, but there's a bit there as well, where he tells it. I love that bit where it's so good at this Javais as Brent, where he's talking and then remembers as a camera. It's good where it says, yeah, you can be speeding along the road 70 miles an hour or over, and then glances at the camera.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like a 70 miles an hour tops.
Speaker 2:Top. Oh yeah, absolutely, mate, absolutely fantastic, yeah, but yeah, so he's got his life on the road as a shit film called After this.
Speaker 3:But we don't acknowledge that, do we?
Speaker 2:No, we don't acknowledge that as part of the canon because it's shit and it ruins it.
Speaker 3:So we now go back into the office space. He's jumping around a little bit. We're all setting the scene. The summary is Brent's out and about, part trying to do this traveling salesman role, part trying to be an entertainer, and office life is just carrying on as it always does, and there's a bit here where I find Tim really, really irritating. I'm going to play a clip.
Speaker 2:I'm in three o'clock on the 14th Fortnight, the management meeting Chair by myself.
Speaker 1:G-team, we're headed to the division present. You've got your agendas, javais. Can I just add something to the agenda please? No, you know full well, you cannot submit something to be discussed during the meeting. It has to be submitted before or two o'clock so that you can be typed up onto the agenda. This is the agenda has been typed up. I got this information after. There's no way I could possibly have got it in before. I'll have to wait till next time. I'll have that. I'll just tell you the information there.
Speaker 3:It won't get on the agenda.
Speaker 1:I just start telling you that Mike thinks that the co-opty's getting the best out of you, the AT. I did not officially hear that. All right, you know the rules, right, fine, so I cannot possibly get this on the agenda. No, there's no way I can get this on the agenda. No, that's not the most important number seven on the agenda. Any other business? Can I bring it up there? Yes, I'll wait until then.
Speaker 3:All right. It really irritates me this, because if Tim's doing this to wind him up and smoke it to camera, like look how I can get to Gareth, then fine, waste his time mess about, but he's really angry in this scene, tim.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he knows you can get it in in any other business, so why is he dicking about trying to get it in? Do you know what I think about this?
Speaker 2:Is the every man of the series? Are everyone in this show are probably one of the mates within? I would have thought can't think of anyone something like that. Maybe Neil, I don't know, maybe I'm a bit, maybe, like Tim's, the every man. Anyway, he's supposed to be you in the office, isn't he? But he's a bit of a prick. He's like he's going off to someone else's girl girlfriend In fact they're engaged and he's so smug and he's got nothing to be smug about, and he's so like criticising other people. It's like when in the series where he's going on about oh I don't know if it'll be a, if it'll be theatre or do you know what he'll have on that night out?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's like taking the piss about how uncultured they are. It's like maybe you're going on it. Do you know what I mean? You're going on this night out. So yeah, he's a very sneering character, I think.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that bit just particularly annoys me because he's. I find it pretty out to Gareth, though, as office manager, when he don't want to hear somebody going la, la, la, la, la, la that maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah brilliant, yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 3:So the bit coming up now, this is this bit you were talking about. Brilliant, and he could. Brent again is in the office for some reason. He sort of strolls into the Gareth's office and you've got in there. You've got Finchie, who's the kind of brash, loud, travelling salesman who seemingly is everything kind of Brent is pretending to be. I mean, he's another well-written character because a bit of a nod, but he is funny at times and you kind of get why.
Speaker 1:Brent.
Speaker 3:Hero worships him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is everything.
Speaker 3:Brent wants to be. I think, Well, I don't know. I think he's what he wants to be perceived as I don't actually know if he wants to be a knobhead, but yeah, it's the life of the man, I love how he walks in he shakes everyone's hand except Neil's, neil's off from his hand, so sort of petty yeah, I am very rare…. I think Neil says to him are you dating? And he says you know, it's like I said, well, you don't eat us points of finching. He goes young, single, wow, motel, yeah, love that.
Speaker 1:No, it's so cool.
Speaker 2:And then like then Garry's like obviously can't get it, can he need going in the background and the muscle? You do have sex. Well, I don't kiss and sell. He's the adult since that like, so.
Speaker 3:so again, cringe and then obviously this is where the bit you mentioned previously. So Neil says you get married getting good acting from Jubais. I know some people say he's not a good actor. I think he's yeah, I think he's, he's gutted, he looks genuinely pissed off. The show, the picture of her, and I think it shows that, finch, you respect Neil because you kind of expect him to make one of his sort of sexist jokes. But he just sort of nods and says, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Brilliant, it's that Brent has never met this woman because he doesn't. He's never seen, he's looking at a picture of her, he's never met her and he goes. I prefer someone more intellectual, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then he says, well, she's a doctor actually. And yeah, finch, he makes one of his sexist jokes, some about the only time you've seen a woman like that is with a staple through us. I was in, like Canada.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then a lot of that.
Speaker 3:Brent says degrade into a GP. Yeah, degrade into a GP.
Speaker 2:That's one of my favorite lines in the whole thing that degrade so good this scene is brilliant because again he's gutted and he says and then he goes when's the wedding? And then he makes sure you're in it where he goes. Well, I'll be married by then and can't reflect again. Like you know, two yeah Two. You've got to have to say this it's a long way away.
Speaker 3:And yeah, so obviously we were establishing that scene. He's very jealous. He's got no date, he's got no love life, and he lost his job Again quite smugly.
Speaker 1:I think Neil Sort of as he's.
Speaker 2:He is bad on this, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, you're bringing a date to the party then, Kind of knowing that he's not but Brent's kind of going to be saying yeah, I'm going to bring the lady there.
Speaker 2:Being fairness to Neil Brent has been an absolute bell-end to him for like five years yeah yeah, it's not unjustified.
Speaker 3:It's just, we've not really seen this side to Neil until now. We've sort of he's just been almost just like Brent hanging himself, hasn't he Like he's kind? Of just allowed him space to mess it up for himself. He's never done anything, whereas you get the feeling this Neil's started to like I don't know almost want to put the boot in on him a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3:So I love that bit as well. We Cuts to Brent and he's talking about his girlfriend and he obviously, you know, clearly he's got no love life. But the interviewer says to him when was the last time you had a girlfriend? He says, well, I prefer not to think about it as when, but who and why? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Who and why? Yeah, brilliant, it's absolutely amazing. Do you think he's ever been in a relationship? I don't get the feeling he has.
Speaker 3:No, and it's not something we've ever sort of. As far as I'm aware, throughout the office we've never heard of his backstory, whether there is anything in there. Now I think they've kept that away. And it's strange in this one as well, because it's almost like he feels he needs to get a date to compete with Neil, not because, yeah, he was for a date as such. Yeah, so that's the setup. We now need a date. And actually then what we do? We cut to see. It's the first time we see him in his entertainer, in an inverted commerce role, and he's there with his agent, peter, who is the guy out of life too short, who's his accountant isn't he and Alan Partridge isn't he, because, alan, you can't.
Speaker 2:Yeah the South African guy.
Speaker 3:He's done it again.
Speaker 2:He's said it again. Yeah, he's an unbelievably funny actor, I think.
Speaker 3:He's so good at playing that sort of deadpan.
Speaker 2:He's brilliant in this. Yeah, he's brilliant.
Speaker 3:I mean, basically he's running an agency. He's sort of forgotten everything about it. Brent has to prompt him on all of it, and then he finishes on a fancy line about Lucky Likeys. Have you got a Lucky Likey for me? No, you're nowhere near famous enough.
Speaker 2:There's a brilliant bit where he's on about Lucky Likeys. Tell them about Lucky Likeys you've got. There's Michael Douglas. He's got a Z here because he just walks around looking like Michael Douglas, because I'm thinking of getting a Captain Z to Jones actually, so people don't recognise him. And then there's Brent.
Speaker 3:He's an old man walking around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people just think he's an old man walking around Brent's like smart, very great idea.
Speaker 3:And then he goes out on stage at Mumbo Jumbos and again it's a weird mixed bag with Brent and possibly this is exactly how you're supposed to feel about him. In part you feel very sorry for him, in part you find him ridiculous. He's gone on stage at Mumbo Jumbos, the club. They've mocked him before he's even gone on. They've said you might recognise him from the office or from his chart, but probably not, because it got to about 450 in the chart. Yeah, he's got nothing to say. There's no reason for him to be there. They sort of say what are you doing right now?
Speaker 3:Doing this yeah, doing this, more of these, Right. And what have you got coming up? Well, more of these. And then they say, right, what are you going to do for us? And he says, well, no, he just said come out and say hello, and that's it. And he says, all right, OK, Feeling hot, hot, hot. And he walks off stage and then there's a brilliant bit there, and it's not a shock to us this, but he sort of glances over his shoulder and the camera catches him and it's just a distant look of boy. Is this supposed to be sort of the famous life? It's really really well done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as much as he's bragging about fame. No one knows who he is. He's doing nothing. He's just waving constantly like just doing nothing. It's just horrible. He's spending his evenings doing that, getting paid for it, but is it worth it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and seemingly for now it is at least. But some brilliant moments here I think we probably need to pick up the page because we're still in episode one and some really, really good moments where he's doing his dating profile with Gareth and there's a fantastic line actually about Neil's wedding. Did you play the clip?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I did. Has Neil got a date for the wedding or is he just, yes, september, september Could be good. Mike Reign Could be a washout. I hope not. I hope not. Gareth looks very attractive, attractive, average. He can't put very attractive. It looks like arrogant but attractive.
Speaker 2:Just see me. Absolutely brilliant. There's a brilliant bit here where he's taking Gareth thinks Brent's 50, doesn't he 45,? He thinks he is Because I'm not 45. Everybody is 45, but there's probably yeah, and because I'm not, and he's got a fat chain.
Speaker 3:And he's looking at you Pinocchio, man Pinocchio boy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pinocchio boy Fucking brilliant Pinocchio man.
Speaker 3:There's some great lines in there. It says sports to play sports and he goes yeah, Because what sports do you play? Squash, I travel boy. Yeah, travel boy. Yeah, he's standing up to him again, gareth. The dynamic is broken. It doesn't work anymore because Gareth doesn't respect him. Brent's never respected Gareth. They're just two awkward people, sort of Yeaharguing and then smiling to camera every now and again. That's just a mate, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And next again we've got the horrible secretary, Anne, and she's Financial I don't know what she is finance team. She is talking about how mother-in-law got a McCommer sutra to try out different sex positions. She's demonstrating one of them, Squatting down. Tim looks so depressed. He's staring into the future, Into the future, into the distance. He's staring into the future. Imagine if I could jump there. He was looking at the future.
Speaker 2:He's going around the right way. Imagine if you went mad rates like the helicopter.
Speaker 3:I feel like mine, but this is another clever cut now. So we cut from Tim very depressed sort of questioning his place in life. I would say Cuts to a baby crying and Dawn trying to calm him down. She clearly looks depressed. Lee walks past and says do me a favour, shut him up, will you? And that's his input. He's gone again, he's off, so we can see they're both not happy. And this is where the BBC ask Dawn and Lee if they're interested about coming back to Slyl for the Christmas special. Dawn thinks they need to think about it. Lee agrees on the spot, which again shows that he doesn't really care what she thinks. He just wants to do what he thinks.
Speaker 2:He just wants to go on, doesn't he? Just for like basically all of the day, I suppose Like to go and see everyone again. If you're paid for it, I'll do it, yeah.
Speaker 3:We go to, so they agree they're coming. We go to Christmas planning for the party in the office. Gareth's chair and meeting. Again great acting from Tim. This Some brilliant acting, I mean actually the first, I think, martin Friedman.
Speaker 2:by the way, he's not playing. He's not Tim, is he? Yeah, go on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for the purpose of this. I've never noticed before. At the start he says, yeah, let's blue sky it, which is obviously one of these horrible management phrases Tim sort of rolls his eyes and goes, yeah, yeah, let's blue sky. It Say what, gareth, let's fly up the flagpole and see if the cat sucks you off. I've never noticed that before. I don't think I have actually. So, yeah, there's a couple of good bits in there. Keith suggests to wear a t-shirt. Gareth writes it down.
Speaker 2:Absolutely love that. There's Best Bit Before. And he goes what do we need for this party? Keith goes girls Because I think girls will be coming actually, and he goes no, not girls at the office, pretty girls.
Speaker 3:And then Tim sort of says what you saved prostitutes? No, we shouldn't have to pay for it, so yeah. So he just like shakes his head. Keith, like Another good line in there where somebody says, oh, we need something for the old people. Gareth writes down something for the old people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Tim says oh you can't write that down what he says it's down there. Yeah, but what, gareth? What for the old people?
Speaker 2:And then the final bit.
Speaker 3:The brilliant acting from Tim is where Don Gareth says and a couple of announcements somebody's coming back can't remember the first name and also Don Tinsley's coming back from America, and it catches Tim kind of off-guard and he looks stunning. He does like a kind of really exaggerated, not really good acting, I think.
Speaker 2:He's like, oh, cool, cool.
Speaker 3:But you can see like his old body's got into shock and a fantastic acting from Freeman, yeah and then we go back to Tim on his own in one of these talking-head moments and he's basically saying it was awkward At first he thought it was just the embarrassment of coming back, but then it's not, it's the thought of seeing it, and he says there is obviously something still there. So, yeah, he's kind of maybe not acknowledged that feeling for the last three years.
Speaker 2:And he says it's just a bit where he says as well, where he says I'm not going to ask her out again because I might ask her out. In fact she has to do the asking.
Speaker 3:There's lots of spinning aren't there, yeah, and he kind of knows it'd be ridiculous again, but he's not completely given up on it. But, yeah, a couple of times in it he says she'd have to do the asking and he kind of knows she's not going to do the asking. So, yes, it's kind of done. We're getting right to the end of the first part now and really good seeing this. We go to Bren and he's dressed up as Austin Powers and he's doing a blind date on stage. So bad.
Speaker 2:He's awful in it. So his blind date, it's a celebrity blind date at nightclub, this young girl about I don't know 19 or something, and she has to pick between bubble from Big Brother one, two, three, Well, all of them, which?
Speaker 1:one. Are you on Three? I said three.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Anyway bubble is Bren and Howard from the Elefax Adverts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're the three celebs We've got Kim. I've seen her in other stuff, but I can't think what when she was in the store. I recognise her and I can't think where she'd be in there, but anyway, yeah, she comes on, plays really well this kind of youngish girl who's like, hey, hey, I'm here for a blind date. Everything's like a sort of cheer. Yeah, Asks bubble a question. I'm trying to think which clip to play from this bit.
Speaker 2:There's a brilliant bit where you can't see where she does what you're passing him. Like because my passion's football and like I'm like I'm going to do a.
Speaker 3:Brent nodding yeah, when he makes a joke there, he says, yeah, but hopefully you're a West End fan, because by the end of the night you'll be forever blowing bubbles. And I played Brent's response to that.
Speaker 4:Well, I hope you're a West End fan, love because after tonight you will be, forever blowing bubbles. Yeah, does it work? Does it work Because the song's blowing bubbles? I know you're doing blowjobs, but Sexist.
Speaker 3:I love voices at the end. I know you're doing blowjobs.
Speaker 2:I know you're doing blowjobs. It's just like. Again, he thinks he's intellectually smarter than all these people as well, doesn't he? Which is a bad thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he's really awkward, so he gets his bit all wrong, but he's fuming with her, so he jokes him before she's even asked a question, because Shaggedell is a baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's so horrible.
Speaker 3:Again, it's another bit, it's a little character for you, because Austin Powers that's what I was doing Like he's annoyed with her because he's got it all wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he fucks it up. And again. This is another thing where someone says what do you mean? It's a cringy shirt, like it's cringy comedy. Again, show him that scene where he's dressed in the full Austin Powers suit. We're going Shaggedellic, baby. Yeah, so bad.
Speaker 3:She chews his powers Bubble comes off. She kind of gives him a kiss and the guy says are you upset? She says, oh yeah, I like him. Brent walks past, hugs her. I mean, it's this thing that they write him where. I don't know if she'd be so repulsed by him. She's like pulling away from him and then, as he walks off, she says who the fuck's that? And he's really pissed off about that. So when she comes in behind this sort of sad thing, hang on, can I play?
Speaker 2:a clip here. He's another little sort of thing, which obviously is brilliant, as he's walking off stage. This happens.
Speaker 1:Hello, who the fuck's?
Speaker 4:that? Who are you? What were you doing on before? Nothing, sir. You're the wanker mate, if anyone is, yeah, I forgot that I've not made a note of that.
Speaker 3:Brilliant, yeah, you're the wanker mate, if anyone is. If anyone is, he's such a good line, he's such a good you're the wanker mate, if anyone is. I love if anyone is.
Speaker 2:He's walking off with some banker Like that, he's like, he's like he's got some banker, yeah.
Speaker 3:So there's a bit there as well. That I love. Where she throws a drink in his face, he says what the fuck was that shit to her? Or what was your shit? Or something like that. She throws a drink in his face. He grabs a drink to throw in her face. She throws that in his face. So he's still there soaking wet. Yeah, he goes, I've already wet. Did you help us on you? Yeah. But the agent says to someone like, oh, you better get that dry clean, you won't get your deposit back. I love how Brent goes, won't I, won't I? What about if it's fucking ripped? And he does the most feeble attempt to rip?
Speaker 2:his shirt. Yeah, it's not ripping.
Speaker 3:It's pathetic, it just pushes it side to side.
Speaker 2:This is the slowest moment. This, this is where the first part ends in it and it's like a long distance shot of him Dressed his awesome powers Like just fucking so depressed yeah.
Speaker 3:And that's it. So that's the setup. We've got Brent not really entertaining her, quite depressed about what he's doing, tim just being thrown back in that dawn's coming back. Dawn not happy in America. That's all the setup. So part two is Brent and he's with Gareth. He's reviewing his free, so it turns out he gets three free introductions. I'd never noticed that before. So he's only got three attempts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, three.
Speaker 3:And then he's got to start paying for it. So Niels comes in, says still need two tickets, and a glance to camera again. So I'm still kind of quiet mocking him for the fight?
Speaker 3:Probably doesn't do anything in a day and then we go on Brent's first date. It's awful, it's again. It's that cringe it has to be done well to be cringe, otherwise it wouldn't. But it meets this girl. He talks about a necklace and says yeah well, you know why women wear necklaces to draw men's attention to the breasts. And she said what well, I don't, this was my dead mother's necklace. Yeah well, she probably did it to draw attention to what a sign of a date it's gone wrong. Can we stop talking about my dead mother's breast?
Speaker 2:I love that as a lot of people just met and he was wherever start is. Now let's get to the main course. I say it's gone because he starts talking about completely blown it.
Speaker 3:It can't be awkward. I think he does like this one as well. So he's just completely messed it up by being Kind of thinks he knows everything about everything and he can't leave it. He's talked to about cavemen having sex and it's just a complete. And I actually think when you watch it there's a couple of moments early on where there's a chance for him to turn it into something Better. But he can't just not be this odd book, Can he like?
Speaker 3:yeah yeah, he says something like well, no, sorry, I wasn't being lewd, I'm just interested in she sort of smiles and says breasts, and I thought there's a chance for himself to sort of laugh at himself and say yeah, yeah, I don't sound good.
Speaker 3:That did it, but it goes. No anthropology and the study of it. It's just, yeah, just such an odd character. Yeah, really awkward day. We don't see much of it, but it's quite clear that's going nowhere. So right dawn is now coming back into the office, so we we're seeing her in a taxi on her way in. I Kind of really like this bit. I think dawn's yeah, that's the character in the whole thing. I think you need you know, what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, yes, she's the most sane person and she's the nicest one, even though she ends up. But you know, I see you never actually treats on her other half actually, so that's wrong. Yeah, she's, I think, brilliant, acting as well from. Yeah yeah, the name Lucy Davis, Jasper Carrick's daughter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's right yeah for a funny one.
Speaker 2:Someone wants that, so why did you drop her carrot? When you become an actor, an actress like, and she went, what makes you think carrots is real neck? Because obviously it's names out Jasper carrot.
Speaker 3:Jasper carrot yeah. But she's basically saying and I completely I'm on board with this sentiment that she says is she's I'm the one who's gone, I'm coming back. I'm gonna have to answer the same question 30 times. And she says, yeah, no, where's an ice. Yeah, I've done some sunbathing. No, I'm not gonna be an illustrator. Yeah, yeah, you can kind of see what's coming. So, and it does exactly that. She comes in, she gets mobbed by Loads of small talk oh, have you been? And all this sort of stuff. Tim jumps in, steps up, says don't, I think garrif probably won't see you takes her away. I've got to play this clip.
Speaker 2:This is when she I just thought that there's a brilliant look from dawn when she looks at saving the sort of like a look away. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:And then yeah, yeah, because it there's an awkwardness. There's also the fact that it probably Want to speak to each other and not all the other people, but but it is the awkwardly way. Yeah, again, good acting. There is a glance and then a turn away. But garth, who Is someone who they've kind of always just mocked but maybe he doesn't know that, but he's playing the Top dog role now once you walk saying I love how he does this.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 4:Don't tinsley, as I live and breathe. How are you, babes, I?
Speaker 2:Love it, I'll wear beads. I like it when he goes look, if you want to come back. I always thought, because he's saying something like, I always thought you're much better than should be a receptionist, even though you don't necessarily have to go behind reception.
Speaker 3:I always thought you're a good worker and so, yeah, they have a bit banter. I think it ends up with gay jokes again. So it's yeah, sorry, share a sense of humor and really enjoy whining garth up with gay jokes, and it's a theme throughout the whole two series and the two specials. In there as well, we've got Brent arranging his second date. I Love this. So this is the irony at work. So this is the first time somebody recognizes him. And they say because he says oh yeah, well, you might recognize me, was on telly in a show called the office. And she goes oh god, you're not that horrible boss.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, and so what I guess this is my name, or what's his name? Oh, I've got to go and, oh my god, too many questions. Chill out, because what's your?
Speaker 2:name what you're doing. Too many questions, chill out. Yeah, so the first time someone's recognized him and they think he's a prick, basically.
Speaker 3:Yeah, horrible boss. Um don't comes in and sits with him for a bit. They're kind of having some banter and just to chat those two. And then she steps in again and who says Are you gonna have kids? Um, should do it soon. Well, don't actually respond. Not that I'm aware of which kind of implies. Maybe she wants to, maybe she doesn't, but it's you know, Lee.
Speaker 3:Lee's not decided to do that, so it's not happening. Yeah, she's not I'm aware of. And then Ann says to her if you're gonna do it, take my advice, do it soon. There's nothing worse than an old mum.
Speaker 3:And that's going a little bit and she says right yeah for me to go, yeah, and on her way out, she, she tells us that she is coming back though for the Christmas party. So I think we're kind of getting through it. Now Brent's on his second date. Uh, this is because they've seen nothing, you know, probably iconic life.
Speaker 3:So he tells us uh, he's meeting a date in this pub. She's told him she's gonna wear a white chiffon scarf to recognize. Turns around, sees a woman in a white chiffon skirt skirt scarf that he's he's clearly not attracted to and says off, he's absolutely fuming, but that off the brilliant bit about this is what you don't get.
Speaker 2:Obviously the people are probably seeing that clip off, for people always share it as a meme and stuff. She says hello and he goes like he's not even looking at it, like looks the other way, he goes huh.
Speaker 3:Right, sit down, I'll get one come on. This is the absolutely horrible side to Brent this so he thinks he could do.
Speaker 2:He should be doing better than when I don't know why.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean he's genuinely angry and he doesn't even sort of be polite. He's awful in this day. I mean he's not speaking for ages, he's fake. Smiling to camera. She says you like classical music? And, uh, he sort of she she named somebody that I can't remember is greek, or something like that. I mean he says, yeah, I generally prefer Brett Beethoven, think it's accepted, he's best. Um, yeah, it's awful. He tells her to tell me something and I'll tell you a fact about it. And she says cows. So he says cows have got four stomachs, but then I love there's a bit. He mumbles because I don't know why you're looking at me like that. You said cows.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there are moments in there and I just thought horrible again. It's cringe again, though, because Brent's just been such a knobhead.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, and you know, this is a guy who seemingly doesn't have any any sort of date in life, rather than all right, doesn't have to go any further. But rather than just being polite and enjoying it, he's awful to her any like. It's really really unpleasant. And then, even when she's still in the pub, he's talking to camera at the bar and he says you know, I thought when I saw her, or maybe she's one of the funny bubbly ones, but she's not, she's nothing, she's Bleh. But she turns up right behind him. I mean, she's, she's still there, he's talking, all right, really, really awful, and this is where you lose a lot of sympathy for him because His ego is huge, without any real reason for it to be that way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, the short scene in there that we need because we need it for later. So they're setting up the secret Santa and we see Tim draws somebody out and says I don't want him and Gareth says is that me? He says I can't say. And then somebody else says I, do you want to swap shows in the name? Tim says yeah. So we know we're assuming Tim had Gareth but hasn't anymore. Yeah brilliant scene Brent brings his dog in.
Speaker 2:He's got a new dog to bring and he brings him in to show the office staffs if, to be fair, they do care. They're all coming around stroking his dog. He's probably the most attention he's got in it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And no one's really takes any notice of him. But it's called Nelson after the great leader in Nelson Mandela.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that guy I never know his name, he's not a kind of key character in it. But I love where someone it says uh, oh yeah, brilliant. It says well, actually not great man, he was looked up for war crimes and did plot to destroy public property. Racist, racist.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't think of his name. I remembered it earlier now.
Speaker 2:I don't know why his name. Oh, it was the black guy in it, oliver.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that's it. But yeah, every time he mentions anyone, like a black actor, anything, he always sort of points or looks at him, don't he Again, really cringey.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:As if someone, but yeah, yep, it finishes by saying anyway, great man, great dog, which is lying, that I love.
Speaker 2:I love that great man, great dog.
Speaker 3:But there's a bit in there. I don't know again. This is something I never picked up until I was writing down notes for this. But he says, yeah, I've got a dog. Try not to be away for more than two or three nights, because it's not fair to lock him up. So is this dog being left on its own for two to three days?
Speaker 2:I don't know actually. Then another thing is yeah, dog abuser. I don't know, I'm not sure actually.
Speaker 3:He doesn't say it's not fair. But yeah, uh, fantastic scene where Neil comes over and says can I have a word? And obviously everyone stood around. He says alone. Brent thinks he means the dog and says he can't understand you point to his dog. Fantastic, brilliant line.
Speaker 2:Brilliant. Yeah, he can't stand you, and this is where Neil.
Speaker 3:Neil lays down the law now. So he says look, you don't work here, you can't keep coming in. What are you doing? Are you disruptive? You're in here every day, uh yeah, and really sort of tells him down, does it? I'll play the clip here again. We're doing sort of character assassinations on characters that I really like here. But I used to love this line where I'm going to play something and I used to love our tim steps in at the end. But actually he only does it Almost to spy on because he doesn't like yeah, can't stop me seeing you after work, though.
Speaker 4:He wants to go for a drink tomorrow to show. Yeah, short notice, any, what were the day after that of beer Thursday's? Good for me, anyway, what's good for you I, I can still go for meetings. Go on, sir, who wants a meeting? No, what's the other?
Speaker 1:meeting with you. No one wants to have a drink with you, don't you be working? Yeah, I'll have a drink with you tomorrow. David gives a call after work.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Right, oh, there he is. Let's get your own boy before he bars you from the office. He is barred. Oh, taking out animals. There's your evidence.
Speaker 3:So now we're almost Brent at a low point. Now I mean, we've said he's already a low point, there's this is arguably even lower. He's had two dates that have been disastrous. He sat on his own in a service station and Then we see him at another event and he's throwing out t-shirts, waving to people and a bottle stone absolutely smacks him on the air. They don't know kind of what. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously he took a bruise for the cause, didn't he? Yeah, you face for that one, because it wax him right in the middle of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then he's talking about how I do that to your face, fucking something about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, probably, yeah, probably, merchant, probably through it. But he tells us about how we got the pants thrown at him. He says, and I know that they smeared Marmite in the gusset to make it look like other stuff, but I love there is agent kind of thinking out loud. He goes whoa, I would have had Marmite with him. He must have prepared that on, cuz they knew you're on. But then yeah, he's agent tell you.
Speaker 1:I see.
Speaker 3:I love the name drop celebrities when we did some right. We used to love dropping in different like random, yeah, but I love. I'd say what I've seen this before. I've seen this with Bruno Brooks brilliant name.
Speaker 3:Iconic sort of another meme generated by the the offices one. So this is Brent back in his hotel room, he's got a cigar, he's got a whiskey and then he does his rant about. Neil will make mistakes If I says that and they'll drag him out by his hair and they'll ask for Brent to come back and he says, yeah, well, I hope you've got some money because this is gonna cost you. This is gonna cost you. Yeah, it's just a sad man asleep on his own. We're getting ready for the party now and I Know this is kind of common knowledge now, so probably not telling you anything you don't know. But this is a Steven merchants dad pops up in this. He's in all the different series he's carrying a table as a self for the party.
Speaker 3:If you know that really believe it or not is a tall Wanky chap.
Speaker 1:So yeah.
Speaker 3:Another brilliant scene where Brent comes in. He's so overexcited he's like a little child. We played a lot of clips. I think we've got play this one. He's coming in ready for the office party.
Speaker 4:I'm coming up so you barely get a party started. Shamo, I'm coming up, I'm coming. I hope not. I'm in the pink.
Speaker 1:Oh, here we are. I'm in the pink you wanna see it. Yeah, pink, she's good, she's wicked.
Speaker 4:Oh, come to the party Bitch on what time's the meal before I had a thing of it lying in the stomach.
Speaker 2:This was like I don't need to remember this when it came out the office like this Christmas special. This was like part of the trailer of the show and he was like coming up this Christmas Britain at the office and that was the clip. The show Shamo. And he was like wanting the pink.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's wicked, it's coming really excited about this meal. But Gareth told him and it's Neil's decision that only present works are allowed at the meal. So Brent says he's not bothered, he doesn't want to go. But as everyone's leaving, he says what am I gonna do for three hours? He's got three hours just to potter around the office on his own. Yeah, he just stays in the office for three hours. Yeah, so demonstrate he's not bored. The last sort of shot as they're leaving. He potters over to the photocopier and just opens it up to have a look.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's brilliant.
Speaker 3:Brilliant part. Yeah, so we come back. Party's on, full motion now. Music's on. We've got Finchie making a few gags. Neil comes in and asks Brent again where his date is, clearly having to dig at him. He says well, should be between half nine and ten. He says, well, that's nearly ten. Yeah, nearly ten's, not ten. Is it God like? There's so much hostility between the two? Yeah, it's not good. I don't know if I want to play this. I had to skip it when I watched it a second time because I found it so cringeworthy. This bit it's when Lee and Dawn come into the office and Tim talks to him and he says here they are. Whoa, the American couple.
Speaker 2:Yeah so bad I'm not even going to play it. I think it's great acting again, though, because he's so awkward, especially around Lee. This is the first time he's seen Lee. Lee obviously knows that Tim has twice tried to get with his girlfriend. I think he's so awkward. He's like ooh, the American couple. I don't know what to say do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:You get a feeling Lee's not that bothered, but Tim no, I don't think Lee.
Speaker 2:He doesn't see him as any threat. I don't think, Lee we go to Brent.
Speaker 3:Outside he's waiting for his date. I mean, he's rolling the dice here. This is you know, he's had two disastrous dates and his third one is coming to the office party. So yeah, I might as well play the clip, because it is so good. He stood outside waiting and he thinks it's all gone wrong again.
Speaker 4:I don't believe it. Look at this.
Speaker 1:Hello, yeah, you alright.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's monkeying there.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah you alright, yeah, no, I was expecting a blind date and I was worried you were it. No, yeah, he's up there. Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I love that. I'm not sure. By the way, I think We've had this chat before, but I think Monke Alan is never seen in this, is he?
Speaker 2:I don't think Monke Alan's ever seen. Yeah, such a good name.
Speaker 3:Monke Alan and it goes to like, because the question was sort of famous sitcom characters that you never see. I'm guessing it's not because I don't think Merchant and Javais are impressed by Onifuls and Orsas, but I wonder if it's a nod to Monke Harris because he's a famous Onifuls character who's never seen.
Speaker 2:Oh interesting. Yeah, I'm not sure it's like yeah, but I don't think you see Monke Alan who's that when he goes he's my dog shagging his dog. That's not Monke Alan, is it?
Speaker 3:No, I can't remember his name. He's the warehouse.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's, that's it, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's it, yeah, and obviously he's coming back in shortly, but yeah, so it goes to. Tim again is still having this really awkward chat with Lee and Dawn and basically she says she's not doing the art anymore. And again, this is where Lee's not just distant, this is where he's almost sort of hostile towards her, because he sort of says, well, yeah, the problem is to make any money out of art, you've got to be good at it. And Dawn just kind of looks sad that, yeah, she's given up on the street and he's got no interest in it at all and just doesn't think she's good enough.
Speaker 3:Brent's date turns up, she's called Carol and he's absolutely delighted he takes her the long way around so she can walk past Finchie and Neil.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's a really good line in there where he says something like can I get you a wine or a cider or something, and she says no, I'm watching my figure. She says I'll have vodka. I ain't a vodka. And he looks genuinely terrified. She says no, I'm only joking. And he's like I'll have just a few thought. They sent me an alcove.
Speaker 2:Yeah, brilliant, I love that. Yeah, thought they sent me an alcove.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so they're having a chat and she's laughing at all the right times. She's engaged. He's quite honest with her as well. He sort of says you know it's a bit of a farce, my agent's a bit of a joke. But she says well, you know what you're doing, what you want to do. No one could take that away from you. You're making money, you know who's the idiot.
Speaker 2:You know you're making money. You might just be waving, but they're paying you.
Speaker 3:Exactly, and they seem to hit it off. Gareth is doing his kind of managerial bit at the party. He walks over to some guy. I can't quite hear who he says, but he goes hey, marquis, you're barred. And the guy barely even acknowledges him. He just turns to look at him.
Speaker 1:Which is a throwback to.
Speaker 3:Brent, I think, which is you know he sort of sees himself as the life of the party, but nobody's actually that interested in being there.
Speaker 3:So this is where it's such a kind of well-written moment, this. Now you get the warehouse guy. I don't know if Taffy's the smaller guy or isn't, but anyway the head of the warehouse. He's smoking her. I think it's just cigarette, I don't think it's cigar, but he's smoking near Anne, the financial woman who we've kind of been taking down. The rooms are really disliked. She has a go at him and tells him can you not smoke around me and my unborn baby? And this is his response.
Speaker 1:Do you mind not smoking near me? Sorry, you're not smoking near me. Hello, I am pregnant.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and this is a party.
Speaker 1:Don't really care about the party. You care about my unborn child. Maybe you should fuck off over them. If you're pregnant, you're basically dead. What did you say?
Speaker 4:You think we care as much about your baby as you do Just because you let some useless toss of loads of beans up your mouth. Well done, merry fucking Christmas.
Speaker 3:Which I mean. It's such a kind of crass, awful response you kind of find yourself thinking, yes, he sold her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because she gets to come up and she's upset everybody throughout the episodes.
Speaker 3:And it's just a shame actually to give that line to him because he has no comeuppance. But I suppose he doesn't care, does he?
Speaker 2:No, no, no. I think he's a great character, this guy, because he is You've worked with people like that. I've worked with people like that Just a complete nobbed who doesn't give a shit what he says to anyone. He thinks he's a bit of an outcase or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's obviously brought her down a peg and yeah, I mean, like I say, it's almost like a yes, she got told even this horrible moment. And obviously Tim and Dawn are having some banter there. They're laughing about it. They're sort of jumping about on the sofa. You've got Brent and Carol laughing. You've got here. It is Merry Christmas playing in the background. I think Brent has spent a lot of time choosing songs for the end of this. We know that he likes to do that sort of thing, but yeah, so.
Speaker 3:Merry Christmas is playing here.
Speaker 2:It is Merry Christmas Tim and Dawn are having a great time. To be honest, I don't know, if you need to sing it Merry Christmas. Yeah, yeah but you know, I think it is Merry Christmas everybody innit.
Speaker 3:Merry Christmas everyone. No, that's a different song, I don't know, but anyway anyway fuck it now, go on. It's Christmas. It's that one isn't it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it is Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3:So obviously Dawn and Tim are having a laugh. Lee is playing darts with the rest of the warehouse boys and we're kind of getting to the end of the episode. Now Dawn's behind the reception desk. Gareth comes over and tells us she's not allowed there. We get Tim and Dawn winding Gareth up with more banter about him being gay and Lee comes over and basically just puts the stop to all and says they're just winding you up, mate, they're making gay jokes.
Speaker 2:They're winding you up, mate. They're making gay jokes and he's like so that's it, they can't do it anymore. I mean, on the one hand, lee's a dick, but on the other hand, they are taking the piss do you know what I mean? Out of him.
Speaker 3:I don't know, that's the last moment and there's again so sort of clever but a bit over sentimental, but it works. So, as Tim and Dawn are saying goodbye, it needs some love by the spy skills they're playing and then you're kind of literally at the point where Lee says come on, we're going. It's when you're back for good playing, take that comes on, which is a brilliant intro to a song. Anyway, and a brilliant song but, yeah, it does work.
Speaker 3:I mean it's corny and it's cheesy, but it does fit. It's brilliant. And I have to say what you're not. She walks out with Lee. You kind of if you like your sentimental moments. You're kind of thinking and hoping that as she walks out she stops and turns and looks back and she doesn't go.
Speaker 3:Doesn't look like carries on and that's it, and we get Tim with his chat and philosophy again. Lots of clips, but I'll play another clip. This is Tim explaining what he thought of Dawn the people you work with are people you were just thrown together with.
Speaker 1:You don't know them, it wasn't your choice, and yet you spend more time with them than you do your friends or your family, but probably all you've got in common is the fact that you walk around on the same bit of carpet for eight hours a day, and so, obviously, when someone comes in, who you have a connection with. Yeah, and Dawn was a ray of sunshine in my life and it meant a lot, but if I'm really being honest, I never really thought it would have a happy ending.
Speaker 2:I think this is the correct. Yeah, this is why I think the office is held in esteem as much as it is. It's not just a comedy, is it? I think this is that. I think that's a fantastic speech from Tim there. Really sad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he's kind of accepted that it's just not worked for him. It's not happened and that's fine and life goes on. The whole bit now hinges on her opening the secret centre at the right time. So she opens it in a taxi, but I think if she opened it on the plane what would happen? Yeah, what?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah yeah fake me the thick old. Oh, I need to think it's an old thing but yeah. I think this and I'd like to know, I'd like to know what happened in that taxi for her to say I'm getting out and you don't see a later like where's? Where's Leagon?
Speaker 3:Yeah there's an awful lot kind of carried over and maybe we don't need to know, but yeah, there's an awful lot sort of skipped over in a few minutes. We're getting towards the end.
Speaker 2:I've got a feeling this is pure Javais. I think this is Javais.
Speaker 3:I think you wanted to cram in lots of different sort of song moments and I think it wasn't important to Javais how it happened. I don't think it's badly written.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I agree, I mean you. I don't like the ending to this, I have to admit, but that's probably just because I'm a bit of an old bed and I think what I like about it is how real is it is. But anyway, carrie Aron will get to that.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, she opens up the secret centre and it's from Tim and he's bought her an art set and it's a picture that she doodled with him earlier on, which is quite good, and he's written on it Never Give Up and great acting. You can see her welling up. We don't actually see again what you said. What you just said we don't see. We just see the taxi carry on into the distance and that's it, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then we see Brent explaining why he got on so well with Carol. It tells us that for him to be attracted to a woman, she has to be as intelligent or slightly less than him, and she is, so it's all good, which she is. Yeah, yeah, brilliant art, love that line. And then she tells us that she found him funny. She wants to meet again. He wants to try a Thai food. He's sort of skulking around in the background trying to listen in. Really good. He sees her off out the door Another iconic clip here so it comes back in and he walks up to Neil and Chris Finch, and this is the short clip.
Speaker 4:Well, dan, what was I saying? You leads are doing well. What Well they're in the league they do. What are they? What are you talking about? You don't have a lot of football Guilty. I support Reddy. You don't support them. When do you like to go all out? No, I support football more than it do. You're more of a rugby man, I know. Admits it, admits it, I'm a dog with you today, dan. Well, if you're not saying it should have just left, chris, what are you f*** off?
Speaker 2:I think Neil's a knobheader again here because Finch is laughing along with Finch. He's just like he's the right knobhead thing to do. I know he don't like him, but I think this is like we again, probably maybe to get sympathy more with Bren. You know Neil is sort of golden him on any of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know it's kind of the difference with Brent and Finch is Finch was always kind of mocking Brent, whereas these two feel a bit like it's bullying.
Speaker 3:It's two people picking on somebody and, yeah, he kind of holds his own and he tells Finch to f*** off and it is a good moment. I love this bit. So we're coming to the very ending now. You don't like it, but I understand why. It's a bit over sentimental. It's got Javais all over it this, but it's a song, not a love playing. So only you by Yaz. Is it Yaz or Yazoo?
Speaker 2:Yazoo, yaz is the only way he's up very different band.
Speaker 3:Yazoo. So that's playing the background. I won't sing it, but it's so well done this, because I love how it's a throwback to the kind of the start of the office that we love. So it's Brent talking to Gareth and Tim and he's giving them a logic problem and he's saying so. The doctor says I can't operate, he's my son and they're asking questions and they're thinking. I think it's the puzzle where the doctor is a woman. That's the kind of thing isn't it?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:So and as we're doing this, the song's playing the background. We see Dawn come back in through the way she left, comes over, kisses Tim. As the song's playing, gareth says well, I won't do that, be careful, she's got fiance. She says not anymore. And there's a fantastic moment there where Brent looks around and he's got such a kind of proud smile. I think it's like this sort of fatherly smile there.
Speaker 3:I think it's yeah, yeah he's just kind of some of them look shocked like he. Just he just looks kind of happy that that's worked out for him so yeah, I just thought, I just think it's a fantastic moment they go off together.
Speaker 2:I get.
Speaker 1:Why people like?
Speaker 2:it. We've talked about it before on endings and stuff and I've gone against it. I don't think it's a terrible ending or anything. I would have liked a bit of misery for one of them. I know it doesn't end like on a massive life of Brent, it just has a good day. It's not there. I would have liked a bit. I don't know. I think I'd have preferred it for the state of Paul, just for the realism side of it. But I get why he's just TV showing it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it just felt like it wrapped it up nicely and at the end of the day, you know we're not. We've not skipped forward 10 years to Tim and Dawn happily married and they've got kids.
Speaker 3:No no it's only a, you know, there's nothing to say. Anything works out there. It's just a moment that at least they're going to give it a go and yeah, I think it's brilliant. It brought a tear to my eye when I watched it and I just think it's really well done. It is a little bit over-soppy, but I think it works for a Christmas thing.
Speaker 2:Fair, fair, fair and then the very ending, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, what I was going to say is what's great is that's not the very ending. So, yeah, just what you're going to say. Do you want to explain the very end?
Speaker 2:It doesn't finish there. If the very ending they try and get a photo of the old team, which is quite good, she's got I think Garrett's in there, and yeah, garrett's in there obviously Doug on Tim and he starts doing a Frank Spencer impression, like David Poe. In fact he's like, oh, did a bit of a one say, because the woman can't get the camera to start. But what I found really good is they're all laughing and he's one of the few times when Brent tries to be funny and people are laughing with him and I like that, so it's been like the end of the perfect night for him, that he's got people actually laughing at him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and this is again. This is one of the reasons I think it's such a good ending, because he's basically just had a good day and you know, that's it. It's just a moment of not misery in Brent's life, where not everybody's laughing at him. I think the Brent.
Speaker 2:Ending is perfect. I think he has a decent day. It comes across as that. She's a bit you can tell it's not really going to last because she's normal and she finds him funny. But she's also really confused by a few things. She says like. So when she says, when he goes there you know, just because I had butted her and she was her, you know what I mean Like yeah, it's just like really confused and he's talking about no woman, no cry, isn't he? Like? When he's here he goes that, yeah, oliver, he's the office black guy. He said he was brilliant. She's really confused looking at him.
Speaker 3:Obviously they did life on the road without merchant elephant in the room. Don't recognise it. Ignore that for now. Where do you think this goes for Brent from here? Do you think he becomes successful as an entertainer? Do you think he does he end up back in an office job? If you forget life on the road and that storyline from this moment when I finished, what did your picture happen next for Brent?
Speaker 2:I think he carries on doing this for a couple of years. His date don't go anywhere. I think it's a sad ending. I think he just does this forever. Basically, I think he's end to same things, sort of Peter out because obviously he's not famous anymore well, he's not famous at all anyway, really but and I think it peters out and he just becomes a door to door salesman, whatever that he's doing.
Speaker 3:I think he ever gets back in the office. As he says, neil will make a mistake.
Speaker 2:Neil is a good boss. He's a very professional person. I think even if Neil left as well, they won't have him back. Because of what?
Speaker 3:he said when he shows his what is it inside paper magazine get manager in a month. Pull a silly face.
Speaker 2:He clearly is capable of being a good manager Do you think that's just gone now?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think he's got a lot of things going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he's got obviously won the thing above Neil as well. People have not seen him on a run about, but obviously he was voted to be the boss of both branches and he just failed because of his blood pressure.
Speaker 2:I think he was a good boss, but I think once the cameras came in, he thought, right, this is my moment to be an entertainer. And he's gone as wrong as he possibly could after him because he sees himself as like a writer and a comedian, and do you know what I mean? Write short stories and things like that, and all he's known for, yeah, and game shows and stuff, and all he's known for he's been that dickhead from the office. He's getting bottles thrown at him, he's going to nightclubs and that'll obviously Peter. I think it's a really sad ending bullet in the brain. I don't think he'd do himself in or anything, but I think he'd just be. Yeah, I think he'd just carry on doing this.
Speaker 3:Merry Christmas everyone.
Speaker 2:Right, so that's the office. That's probably going to be the longest one I would have thought of. We wanted to get it out of the way. It's obviously a two par and it's a show that we love. If you haven't seen it, just go and watch it. It's fucking brilliant, one of the best bits of TV. It'll be on over.
Speaker 3:Christmas as well. So yeah, make sure you make sure you watch it, it's on iPlayer?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is I. All of them are iPlayers, so go and watch it. Brilliant, change your scenery. Next week. What we're going to try and do to make sure we can get 12 out is some of the episodes are going to be Watch Along. We did a Watch Along for WWE and some people seem to like it and they're like yeah, what else have you got? They're easy for us to do because we don't have to do any research, no clips and stuff. So we're going to do a couple of Watch Alongs this Christmas and we're going to try one next and the first one we're going to try we're going to watch along to the He-Man She-Ra Christmas Special.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we don't know if we saw this as kids, but we have no memory of it at all, either of us. So this is being interesting one. Yeah, this could be anything. This Give it a chance.
Speaker 2:This is like. But the thing is, with this one we were going to do it as a normal episode, but I looked at the synopsis for it and it's like fucking load of the rings. So instead of just going and then this happened, and then that happened, and then this happened, we're just going to do it as it comes. I was going to basically point to him and say, look at this dickhead. So that'll be a laugh. December 1985, yeah, december 1985. If anyone wants to watch it, it's called He-Man She-Ra, a Christmas Special.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's important to mention, it is a Christmas episode. We're not just picked to December He-Man, it is a Christmas episode of He-Man and She-Ra. So yeah, if you want to get on board before we watch it, these should be coming out your thick and fast through December. So get your ass in gear and get it watched.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, big time. Right, enjoy that, liam, and I will see you in a couple of days, certainly well.