Prepare for a journey down memory lane with us, your hosts Andreas and Leggy Warsaw, where we revisit some of the most iconic television moments. Ever wondered how the revelation of an affair can shatter a festive gathering? We're breaking down that unforgettable Christmas episode of EastEnders, where the illicit romance between Max and Stacey was unveiled, and chaos ensued. We'll be sharing our raw reactions, delving into character analysis, and examining the emotional aftermath of this explosive revelation.
We put Max Branning's affair under the microscope - exploring not just the repercussions on his own life, but the devastating impact on his unsuspecting family and friends. We'll be painting a vivid picture of Bradley's violent outburst, discussing the surprising wisdom imparted by Stacey's mother and reflecting on Lauren's departure from the show. This is no ordinary Christmas tale, but a complex web of relationships, secrets and lies.
Prepare for a journey down memory lane with us, your hosts Andreas and Leggy Warsaw, where we revisit some of the most iconic television moments. Ever wondered how the revelation of an affair can shatter a festive gathering? We're breaking down that unforgettable Christmas episode of EastEnders, where the illicit romance between Max and Stacey was unveiled, and chaos ensued. We'll be sharing our raw reactions, delving into character analysis, and examining the emotional aftermath of this explosive revelation.
We put Max Branning's affair under the microscope - exploring not just the repercussions on his own life, but the devastating impact on his unsuspecting family and friends. We'll be painting a vivid picture of Bradley's violent outburst, discussing the surprising wisdom imparted by Stacey's mother and reflecting on Lauren's departure from the show. This is no ordinary Christmas tale, but a complex web of relationships, secrets and lies.
Living with Maidalee. Living with Maidalee. Living with Maidalee. Living with Maidalee. Living with Maidalee. Hello and welcome to Living with Maidalee. This is a TV nostalgia podcast and we're doing our 12 days of Maidalee. In episode 6, my name is Andreas and I'm joined by Leggy Warsaw. How's things, mate?
Speaker 2:On the 12 days of Maidalee, my true love said to me Hotting, up now innit Hotting up as you were at the ups.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, hotting up, Hotting up the spirit now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we're going to bring you down, we're going to drag you down with a festive EastEnders episode.
Speaker 1:Tell the story to this. I do remember EastEnders, so it should be a good one. Do you think there'll be many laughs in there? I've never met a new mate. There'll be lots of laughs, so fuck it, let's get straight into it. That's the theme tune. You've heard that before. It sounds familiar. Yeah, behind the curtain here. We tried to share the same screen here, but you couldn't turn it down. It was so fucking loud and you kept going back to the beginning.
Speaker 2:I'm already in my ears. It was heard out for me. It was quiet for me, but yeah, you'd get your earphones out innit.
Speaker 1:So just a bit of background. This is only half an hour episode, but the background is, if I remember this right way I've had a little bit of a look, but I think I remember it anyway Max and Stacey were having an affair. Stacey was going out with Bradley. It was Max's son. Despite this, stacey agreed to marry Bradley On Bradley and Stacey's wedding day. By the way, if I'm not making any sense here, I'll jump in because the listeners were I remember it vaguely, so what you're saying here sounds familiar.
Speaker 1:So on Bradley and Stacey's wedding day, max kisses Stacey and Max daughters. Lauren is filming this. She hasn't actually seen the kiss. She's left like a recorder on the side, you know, to film all the day, and then it's when she gets back and she looks at her footage what she's got, and she goes oh, oh, my God, so obviously they don't see her kissing. Month later, lauren puts together a wedding tape, a DVD, for the family to watch on Christmas Day. By this point Max and Stacey's affair had finished and they both decided to stay with the partner. So we were all happy families, you know, around there. So the episode just before this they're all watching. You know they're all out in the presence around Christmas Day. Sean Slater's there. Who's Stacey's sister, dot brother, sorry, yeah, of course he is Dot. She's around. I don't know why she's there. Is she a Brandon?
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's a Brandon, isn't?
Speaker 1:she. Yeah, he's not there, though he's in Marne, nick Cotton, nice, yeah. So in this episode they've got Lauren to put the wedding DVD on. She didn't want to put it on at this point because she knew obviously what we're going to ask her.
Speaker 2:So hold on then. Let's just clarify that little bit. So I wasn't sure about this. Has she deliberately created this DVD to stitch them up? Yeah, yeah, but does she want to play it then or not? What is she going to play it?
Speaker 1:She did what's she?
Speaker 2:going to play it Blackmail.
Speaker 1:Adana. No, no, no, no. She wanted to play it just to show, I mean realistically. I mean there's a bit, you know, I think you just chose your mum, wouldn't you? And so well, dad's been up to so in this. Obviously, this is so one, so she decided to make.
Speaker 2:I think she's mad with her dad, so she thought I'd embarrass you, so is your intention to do this in front of everyone, then?
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is not a misunderstanding right Okay. Yeah, but she has second thoughts on the day, and I think he's max himself who grabs the DVD out around and says let's put it on. So, as this, as the last episode ended with the it was, you know it starts off as a normal wedding video and then it's time to kiss him and this is where we're at. So if you're already leaving, are you around the play button?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so three, two, one and then, on the G of Max Branning, we'll press play, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Three, two, one Max Branning.
Speaker 1:Here we go, so we get the beautiful opening theme. It's a bit grimy, isn't it? The opening he's sending us, like you know, the I don't know, it just looks a bit.
Speaker 2:Millennium Dome on this particular episode Does it always start at the same point. I don't know actually. It must do, because it always finishes with that kind of image, doesn't it? The temp sneaking?
Speaker 1:across from left to right. Yeah, so Max, they're watching the DVD.
Speaker 2:So what? Yeah, To be fair, there's always a chance you were going to catch something not everyone would want to see, because you've got a recording in a bedroom like on a wedding night, yeah, so they're all looking at it.
Speaker 1:Bradley looks fucking fuming. Max says it's not where it's. Looked like Tanya's shocked. You used to like Tanya, didn't you? I do like Tanya, I think, yeah, I do like Tanya.
Speaker 2:Jim Branning. Is it Jim? Now what's his name? The younger Branning? Oh yeah, Well, what's his name, Please, mate.
Speaker 1:What's the actor's name of plays? Max, Edward, Dave Wood, Simon. What's his name?
Speaker 2:What's his name? It's pretty good actually. He's good yeah.
Speaker 1:What's his name? I want to say Max Wood.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I can't remember. I think he's made Spencer Oliver, but yeah, I listened to something that he does, but can't give his name.
Speaker 1:He's trying to play it off. Max says it's a joke.
Speaker 2:He's saying it was a joke yeah. Stacy's looking stunned.
Speaker 1:I mean, imagine doing that on your wedding. Imagine if your dad did. Your wedding day is a joke.
Speaker 2:It's funny that he's dressed as Santa as well, isn't it? That adds to it Big Mao. I've just seen Big Mao in the background.
Speaker 1:Big Mao's there. Abby's going to bed now. Abby's running. So she's the younger one, the older one that filmed it? The older one that filmed it. Yeah, she's not there. I don't know where she's gone. Oh, she's run out. She's just run out. Well, because Tanya just wants to watch more of it is a bad liar in it. You just let a watch. It, won't you if it were a joke?
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, but it can't kind of like does it become more seedy after the bit we've seen?
Speaker 1:No, it's just like a big snog, a big nice snog. What's his name? That's fucking not Max, but that old man branding call with glasses on.
Speaker 2:He's a Slater. Oh he is. He's a Slater. Is it Charlie Slater? Charlie Slater. I've not seen that man in 20 years. I would say no.
Speaker 1:I am Must be about 15. Max has just said to Stacy tell him it's a joke and Stacy's crying, Stacy's mad mom has got big eyes. Sean's out of it. So what's Stacy gonna say?
Speaker 2:She's not telling him it's a joke, so they all know that. Yeah, so that was real and Bradley looks fuming.
Speaker 1:Clean cut brothers. Clean cut brothers.
Speaker 2:she just says I'm sorry, Bradley's not being Not one bit of stubble on the man. What? How old was he here? About 30?.
Speaker 1:He must have been. Yeah, oh, he's thrown his dog.
Speaker 2:Pushed him into a Christmas tree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, an emo used to be on. Bill fucking held the facts against the place man. He's right for the pitchmarsh. He's right for the pitchmarsh. Don't start telling off an Alan Tick.
Speaker 2:Alan Tick, alan Tickmarsh.
Speaker 1:It's not what it looks like, say it's back to granny, but it is innit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's no point. Now, is there Like the damage is done?
Speaker 1:Why does Bradley dress like that? He's wearing a jumper on like.
Speaker 2:He's mad weirn because she said sorry and that's not good enough. So so Max Brannin thinks that should be good enough, I mean.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you do. Who would you be more madly, your wife or your dad?
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's a mad situation innit. It looks pathetic now. Max Brannin.
Speaker 1:Max. I do like that. I think he's a genuinely good actor Like. He plays this role very well.
Speaker 2:They have to ruin characters though, don't they? It was quite. It was a really kind of likable character, and then they just have to make him into Nobbyd's.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure they have another affair about 10 years later as well.
Speaker 2:These two kids who say it too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, max and Stacey, I'm sure they do. Yeah, I like it when you say Stice, stice, stice, stice, sean, sean's here you're left to go to Hollywood, don't you?
Speaker 2:Sean Slater. Yeah, Max Brannin, Jake Ward, that's who he's played by Jake.
Speaker 1:Ward, that's it, fucking hell. Max Ward's what I'm saying about. I do like him, I could be like him. I suppose he's like a bowling gingerman innit In another life.
Speaker 2:that could have been me Stretched out version of you innit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, in another life that could have been me, but Stace is really upset.
Speaker 2:She says Max is going to do something stupid. He's gone, nobody, he's just run off innit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's gone. Who is that guy? The other Brannin, gary Omlach. You know I love a look. I'll know it as soon as I see it, jack so it's. Jack Brannin.
Speaker 2:Max.
Speaker 1:Brannin oh Big Mals having a go at it now. Oh Stace's mad mum's pretending that what's happened?
Speaker 2:Is she just trying to be normal or do you think she's not understood the magnitude of the I think she's just trying to be normal.
Speaker 1:She's saying I like my presence. Of course he's right for this. Look innit, what's his name Slater, old man, slater, she'd be here. Jean's saying it's not real, it's not real. And then Stace says yeah, it's not real. She'll just stare at everyone angrily. Jean has now suddenly realised it's real. I don't know like why.
Speaker 2:SHE LAUGHS. Is it real? Is it real?
Speaker 1:Is it real? Is it real? It is real. Is it real? Dot has not said a word so far in this episode. He's just in the background.
Speaker 2:He's good at doing it as a spectacle that they do these sort of mad drama moments and they're still really like Christmas party hats on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sean's took his off, aren't they? Sean's had a right go. He's all. That's his moment. Yeah, tanya and Max. Now Tanya's crying. I can't decide.
Speaker 2:Tanya is a what's her name?
Speaker 1:Joe Joyner. I do think she's a member of no angels. Remember that. Yeah, h Play the Yorkshire woman in there. She's run upstairs. She did that. She did that live.
Speaker 2:As he left, Big Mal just said to him it was lovely, it was lovely.
Speaker 1:Dott's giving fucking Max the eyes. He's a fucking. What's his name? Jack Brown, and he's the guy who did. We held the facts against the place. We all did.
Speaker 2:On the live episode.
Speaker 1:he got it, we held the facts against the place we all did Bradley's been sick in the park? Yeah, bradley's Jack's got all of him.
Speaker 1:Bradley we've got the facts about the place the public have we all have, yeah, joe Joyner messed up on the other live episode where she called Ian Billbitt's real name, adam. Remember that. She goes how's Adam? And then, like you see the fear in her eyes. I've actually seen her walk off for an interview when someone says how's it feel when people keep bringing that up? And she goes well, I just walk off and she walks off. You know we all make mistakes, don't we?
Speaker 2:Jack's telling him calm down, get to the bottom of it. It might not be what you think is. I know we all know now that it is what they think it is. So there's not an awful lot of weight on it.
Speaker 1:I call it. This is the worst thing that could possibly happen. I think is it your dad having a fair bit of life? He's classic EastEnders. But poor Bradlite Although you know the lead up to this there's a bit of background research Bradley forced Stacey to have an abortion because he was thinking about his career clean cut. Bradlite and Stacey were furious about it and she wanted to get him back because he dumped her and she got with Max because of that and that's how it started. So you're saying it's all Bradlite's fault. It's Bradley's fault. Lauren's here now, the woman who I'm going to put some background in that now why she put it together.
Speaker 2:I think this is a bit harsh on her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lauren says she wanted to get Max back for what he did to her.
Speaker 2:She made the DVD, but then she threw it away. She threw it away.
Speaker 1:Tanja had to go away, but now she's giving her a hug, she's realising she's taken out on the wrong person. This actress, lauren, left, didn't she Remember?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but only vaguely. Lots of them go and change, don't they?
Speaker 1:We like Joe Wicks, don't we?
Speaker 2:He's a big man. They're all listening into me.
Speaker 1:They start wearing. He would have called that since Bill Hudson and stuff, don't they? Yeah, brilliant him. They think I'm Joe Wicks, isn't it so that he went out with Sarah Hills, daniela Dembiash on the call. They were in my family playing Janey, I know my extended boy, abbey, and Lauren now.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, don't you mean now Janey and not you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, bintree and Waterloo are old as well. Oh, tanja's here now. Stacey, it's like Stacey's saying to Tanja, I'm really sorry. She's going to say you know, yeah, it's alright then.
Speaker 2:I won't want to mess with Tanja, it's all you know. Why would you still be there? She kind of would be within Well, probably not within her rights, but she could whack her over everyone in bottles and you could kind of understand it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why would you be there? Stacey is just saying I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Shaun's just mad. We had all of them. Shaun looks Shaun. That's an aligning the entire.
Speaker 2:That was scowling.
Speaker 1:Oh, janey's just snarling at everybody. Max, I don't know he's crying, max, isn't he? But he's still got a bit of a cool aura about it.
Speaker 2:He's sort of leaning on door framing. A quite cool way, isn't he?
Speaker 1:They're all ginger, aren't they? Shaun Bradley, max was an all-time family. Oh, no, they're not saying family either, because he's Stacey's brother. Yeah, oh, big slap. Thank you, mum. We appreciate you. I appreciate that, by no means. No, no, could that be? No? No, number six, I'm not sure Tanja's slapped Max is still sort of posing. Max is like a boxer and a ring guy doing like I don't know. He's in the South Pole sort of. She's pushing him out. Now she's in Slam Door and everyone Christmas Day.
Speaker 2:this by the way, Remember People are watching this. He's so depressing isn't he?
Speaker 1:He says he's gone to find Bradley. Now, sean again, just literally just snarling. It looks a bit like a pantomime lion, sean, doesn't it? Sean, I think I got into it. He's around this point. Sean ended up going out with Tanja after this and they buried Max alive.
Speaker 2:And this is kind of a trigger for that then, is it?
Speaker 1:He's going to go out with Tanja. And then they buried Max alive and then Tanja couldn't go through it Because he was running out of options here. Sean wanted to kill him and Tanja said I just can't do it and she went and let him out so to me it's like he's staying behind with Tanja now, then, isn't it so?
Speaker 1:is his intention now to? I reckon Sean here is thinking fucking hell, tanja's available. This is my chance. Yeah, I don't know if there were a buildup where he's fancied it before, but Tanja's watching the video again. She's just shaking her head. He's such a dick, max. He's saying to state in the video are you sure you've made the right choice? Is his son's wedding day, dot? Dot's come home and she's looked at a picture of Bradley and she hasn't said anything yet. Neither has she. No, she's going off phone.
Speaker 2:Not funny, nick. No, you think you'd all be out looking for. Bradley, wouldn't you really Not? Dot Dot is just crying now. That Christmas tree, the worst Christmas tree I've ever seen, Look at the lights on it. Just like one string of lights down middle. That must have took about one minute to do that. Leave her alone, Dot.
Speaker 1:Lazy Dot. She's a very religious, weren't she the character Charlie Slater? Is that what you said? Yeah, Sorry, so we're in Stacey's house now. Little Moe, Big Moe should.
Speaker 2:I say I'm having a go at people.
Speaker 1:Fang's out. Do you still get cigarettes out now in Seoul? Stave all that sig-zo. Probably not. No Stacey's here, Did Charlie.
Speaker 2:Slater do anything else in his career.
Speaker 1:I have no idea. Carry on watching and I'll have a quick look at Charlie Slater.
Speaker 2:She's still watching the affair video. Shaun, we're going to go in that door about ten minutes ago. He's just come in now. He wants to get a coffee and she's still watching the video.
Speaker 1:I don't think I've ever seen anyone look as much like a Derek Martin. Looks exactly like someone we called. But yeah, they were in Law Order.
Speaker 2:It must have been in the bill, or casualty or something like that, sweeney, oh really yeah, the bill Upstairs, downstairs, fools and horses, oh, yeah, that's really. Well, actually I can't think. I can't quite think what he is. I'll think of that as we go on.
Speaker 1:He's just personalised. He was revealed Martin was the undergo knee surgery. Why would that be like in the wiki page? Shaun? Did Shaun know? I don't think Shaun yeah she's saying did he know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, shaun, did he know?
Speaker 1:I reckon Shaun knew. Just because of that bad acting there, he looked away, didn't he? Yeah, I think he knew.
Speaker 2:Did he come back?
Speaker 1:into it, Shaun. I think he might have come back into it once or time.
Speaker 2:I think yeah, to be fair, you could kind of see why it could have worked for him in America.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he had the look in line, didn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 2:but clearly I don't know whether he took wrong roles or what.
Speaker 1:Are you a fan of Joe Joyner's acting here? It's a lot of crying, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he's. I don't know if he's trying to explain the situation at this point. She's just panicking, isn't she? She's kind of being made to feel like she's no good, so she's just trying to get rid of the youngster.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's pushed her off.
Speaker 2:He says he's going to look after her. I'm going to look. He said it really sinister though, didn't he?
Speaker 1:I'm going to look after her. Did she tell him to get out? Well, that is the brother of.
Speaker 2:The girl who's just ruined her life, basically.
Speaker 1:He's going. He said about four lines in this entire episode oh, they had a new. Oh, I think they've had a newborn as well Max and Tanya. I didn't realise that, but I've just heard baby crying, so I reckon that'll be.
Speaker 2:What relationship is Max to Dot then? Dot and Max are having a chat at the minute. Don't we have a look at Dot Branning?
Speaker 1:She's.
Speaker 2:Dot Branning, isn't it? She married Jim Branning. The picture behind Max's head at the minute.
Speaker 1:It was Dot Cotton, wasn't it. Dot Cotton. That's right. Yeah, dot's furious with Max. Max is not bothered at all. He's like, yeah, I've got stuff to do. Yeah, well, you do that. I'm going to fucking base my entire image of looking at everything on Max Branning. I could easily look like that. I reckon I've got a coat, like that. See, I think that was a cut in comments.
Speaker 2:She said Jim was right about you. She said you were never worth anything. And he looked quite hurt by Max Branning.
Speaker 1:Don't think he got on with his dad did he, I think he looked him in a box actually as well. Everyone just keeps clocking him in boxes. You wouldn't go for a pint, would you? You get cans in. Maybe there's no way you would go into a pub crying she's going to go on crying.
Speaker 2:Jack's kissing his head. Roxy's having a look. Roxy, a double for the boy, please.
Speaker 1:Double for the boy. There's no way right. Why would he go to a pub?
Speaker 2:Go to a pub with loads of people around you. No, who knows Everyone?
Speaker 1:knows him. Jack's outside. Now he looks fucking. Max and Jack are going to bump into each other.
Speaker 2:We've got drawn into the moment there, would it comment, do we?
Speaker 1:Yeah, sorry, yeah, yeah, that's the Max. You're having a big row on the street. Good, good act of art. This bit, a massive argument between Max and Jack. A lot of like home troops coming out about the past, didn't they? But, he says I'm your brother. I'm your fucking brother. You think Liam Gallagher and Hugo are flat?
Speaker 2:next, yeah, probably on a daily basis. At one bit I'm your brother. I think Jack's trying to tell him leave him, like this is not the time now to go. I hope that's what he's saying to him?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he is, but Max is not listening and Max is fucked off into the pub. I mean Bradley's fucking blame. I blame Bradley there for going into the pub at first place. Now back with Stacey and the rest of the Slaters.
Speaker 2:All sat in silence. Big mouth- staring at. Stacey, she's got another cigarette, is it Jean? I don't know. Stacey's mom, stacey's mom.
Speaker 1:Stacey's mom she played her. Yeah, I wonder if, like someone must have mentioned that. I always feel like I think you've got a better price he was going to school with. He said, like it's mad that no one ever mentioned he would call David Platt off Coronation Street Like she's blaming Sean. She says why aren't Sean protecting her? She's right annoying, isn't she?
Speaker 2:What does she want him to do? She's having to go at Stacey's brother for not protecting Stacey, but I'm not quite sure what she thought it could do in that situation.
Speaker 1:I think she's got bipolar in this, but I think so she's doing bad advice here. Stacey's mom, she's telling Stacey to go and find him and tell her. Tell Bradley, it was that man who made her do it. This is terrible advice. Come on, Vinicius, Liam, what do you think? Lots of tears flowing aren't there? Bradley's looking at a picture of him and saying oh, is here. Max has found Bradley. Oh, dear. Do you think this will be the second strike of the?
Speaker 2:evening. How rosey are fucking. Bradley's children.
Speaker 1:Oh, I mean that would have cut his wrist. The bitch that. That's amazing.
Speaker 2:He's found out his dad's having an affair with it, his wife, his dad's going to the hospital and throwing him across the barn and smashing his wrist open and then, out of nowhere, phil came into the shot and didn't say anything.
Speaker 1:He'd be on his way to the hospital, but he'd cut his wrist open there.
Speaker 2:Yeah Bradley's shouting, saying oh yeah, bradley Brown, and just joking Everyone's saying Max, best thing he needs to do.
Speaker 1:Why does he just want?
Speaker 2:to get so close to his wife. Do you know who that was? Is?
Speaker 1:this just a scene to get.
Speaker 2:There was a girl sat in one of Boo's. She's on the office Christmas special that we just watched. At the previous episode it's her who says my name's Pussy Galore. But what would your case be? You might see her again, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:This is just a scene, I reckon to get everyone in on a Christmas episode. She got fucking packed. We're in there, rock, say, ronny, all of them, all the big names.
Speaker 2:I don't know what his game is here, Max. He's sort of following around quite intimidated. How is this going to fix anything?
Speaker 1:Is it? Max says just give me a minute to say, oh, he's, he's fucking mad.
Speaker 2:though he's smashed in through a bar, he's falling on concrete stairs now.
Speaker 1:Oh, Bradley's hitting him. Bradley's getting a nice little whack.
Speaker 2:Not a great shot.
Speaker 1:Not a great shot.
Speaker 2:Who's?
Speaker 1:that it was smoking background.
Speaker 2:That's it went out with Phil for a bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that odd woman, bradley's, barged into his house. Bradley, sorry, max, has barged into Bradley's house. Don't know what this?
Speaker 2:is appalling from Max's. After everything's gone on, he's just kind of just hounding him.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He keeps trying to grab him around neck as well. I think I would have to murder him at this stage.
Speaker 1:Now we've got Tanya crying. What are crying? Somebody see standards in it, I suppose.
Speaker 2:Whoever took that shot. Director thought that we were a really clever shot. There's a sound behind her. She's self-confident, so she's got her arms wrapped round herself. And director thought this is the shot.
Speaker 1:This is fucking gold, mate. This is fucking gold. And baby crying over the top. Tanya's not looking after baby, obviously got bigger things in her mind. Yeah, it's just a close-up, isn't it, basil? What's she doing? Tablet's out. Oh, it's like she's going to take an overdose.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:She's having a very dark grief. Abby's walking in. She says what are you doing?
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wouldn't be able to do that in my house if I got a dog in his mouth with tablets.
Speaker 2:Quite good acting from the kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'll be running.
Speaker 2:Abby came in, saw her mum with a load of paracetamol open and kind of got upset and said you're scaring me, but good acting. That though I don't know if she's still in it. Max has got synchronised tears rolling down the face. He's got a shot of his head behind his head. It's like your Pet Shop Boys video or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that could easily be an album about that, father and son, it's father and son, it's Max and Bradley.
Speaker 2:Here again Synchronised tears.
Speaker 1:Max and Bradley coming out here. Max is saying it's over. He's trying to justify himself.
Speaker 2:But what he's felt is understand this. He can't justify this, can he? No? But he says it's over now.
Speaker 1:So it's fine, Bradley's just a bit confused. It does look very confused, doesn't it? I think that Max is saying now he started because he made a lot of abortion. Max the manipulator I'm going to call him Maxiculator Because obviously he's making him have doubts in saying, oh shit, is my fault.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's one thing if he pushed her away. But that doesn't mean the dad needs to step in, does it?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, he can still get him out, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:Is he actually just trying to say look, don't blame Stacy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I imagine he's trying to get Bradley to feel as guilty as they are, if you know what I mean. No, no, everyone's to blame. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:No serious acting, I suppose all things very serious.
Speaker 1:He's all right. They're good actors.
Speaker 2:I think Bradley's a decent actor as well, yeah, yeah, it's not like sort of laughable, like sort of ridiculous acting, is it? It would pass as decent even now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I suppose I'm talking about about 50 years ago, I don't know, not 20, 15 years ago, max still. Max can't still be in it, can he?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know a lot.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he's fucking bumped him off by now.
Speaker 2:Who say he's just told him this weren't a plan to get back at you, this was just something to happen.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah he left a couple of years ago. Abbie's dead. Abbie's dead in EastEnders now. Not the actress, thankfully, yeah, but yeah, he just left, he's dead, she's dead. It's a lot of whispering, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, because we've had to turn it down to do this, it's hard to quite grasp what's going on in this video it was like Mike's just got his face very close to Bradley. He's like making me a bit uncomfortable and I'm not bad with it.
Speaker 1:He doesn't like it about to kiss. If you just switched on you didn't know anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You think like these two are about to have an affair. You were queer as folk, weren't you? Yeah?
Speaker 1:You wouldn't you think? These two are literally about to get it on. They're so close together.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I just think you can't do this now. Can you Like the dust's got to settle before this chat? You can't just follow around straight after this revelation and put your head right in front of his.
Speaker 1:It looks like Bradley's sort of forgiven him, though a little bit, doesn't it? I think he's getting through to him. Stacey's going to see Doc.
Speaker 2:Doc can't talk to Stacey because she can't bear it.
Speaker 1:No, doc says you're from the best thing of your life away. And for what? Stacey's cried from literally one of this episode.
Speaker 2:Mosey tears in this, isn't he?
Speaker 1:Yeah, bradley's sat down.
Speaker 2:so because Mike's kind of can't probably like muscles are from like Ben Over, he's head in his face that much he's crouched next to him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why is he crouched? She's always in another seat in kitchen. He crouched like that Bradley's looking down at him like I don't know why there's a chair there. Why isn't he sat on chair? He's literally he's no next to a chair.
Speaker 2:There is a chair there. Yeah, you're right, right next to him.
Speaker 1:Why doesn't he like to sit on a, just like some Ariel, and come out with this? There's a chair there, max, why don't you sit on it? He says you weren't when I was younger. Bradley says, and now it looks like you've come back to finish me off. I think he fucked off to know when he, when he was young.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mike just keeps trying to touch him all time he's grabbed his hand again.
Speaker 1:He is whispering again and he's going close to his face again. What is he doing, Max? He can't not seduce people. That's his problem. That's his major problem. Why is he there? You don't live here now?
Speaker 2:more.
Speaker 1:You don't live here, delbo. You know, it's a little one in your brothers, bradley's, I think. Bradley's asking to go and Max is.
Speaker 2:He's finally to the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you might say something, mate. He's stopped and he's tracks Max.
Speaker 2:What about if I put my face right in front of yours once more?
Speaker 1:He would have it again. Brother's not even listening to him. He says it's not Stacey's fault. He was blaming me. Quite moral, because he just said I'm a son's wife. Bradley sat kitchen on his own crying his eyes out with a little Christmas tree.
Speaker 2:Tanya's packing Otter's to pet a bike, bossy pack your bag, sure All right. Thank, you ladies? Yes, yeah, max, still still trying to look quite cool. High he's lift his collar.
Speaker 1:Yeah To this parties, not saying anything, just staring at each other. No, max, he's not going to make a move.
Speaker 2:He's not going to put his head right in front of the versus, is he?
Speaker 1:He looks like he might do. He's going very close to her. Stacey's looking all the way.
Speaker 2:I don't know what he said. Then Did he say he's in there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he just said he's in there. He said he's done his best and I'm sorry he's walked off. Stacey's left outside. Stacey's going to go in to Bradley's house. Max is going in back into his own home.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:To see Tanya she's still alive Two minutes.
Speaker 2:Oh, right, at the end now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right at the end.
Speaker 2:So he's just coming in to see these kids with bags packed. He's your man To this point.
Speaker 1:He's your man. They're not speaking to him.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm not. He's going upstairs.
Speaker 1:Stacey's going to survive. Good acting from kids.
Speaker 2:I think child actors are often like that Things down, but really good acting in this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very good, very good. I think Stacey's been all right. They've all been good, yeah. Yeah, I do think it's been good acting Stacey's going into Bradley's house. I don't know how this is going to end. How's this going to go? We're going to get the dum-dums from here, because we've only got a minute left.
Speaker 2:Well, like this, I'm running out of time for what I think happens. Well, you think it's good? I've got Max is furious and arguing with Tanya. Tanya's trying to tell him she's going, he's got a lot of people like people hasn't he, oh, he's going to go.
Speaker 1:He has, he's here. He's just fallen downstairs.
Speaker 2:He's trying.
Speaker 1:I didn't know he did that. Boom, boom, boom. That's how it ends. That's how it ends.
Speaker 2:That's well me away that. What happens to Bradley on the scaffolding? I thought that would end. That's a completely different episode. I thought he ran off and the people were chasing him and he fell off the scaffolding. What happened to him that night then?
Speaker 1:Right, I remember a lot when he died Bradley Browning.
Speaker 2:He died three years later, so you know it's completely blown me away that, because that's not the ending I thought was coming.
Speaker 1:I didn't know he did Tanya. I don't think he meant to it.
Speaker 2:No, he don't mean to, but again, he can't stop grabbing and touching people. He's a pain in the arse for that, and the old Max, so I think.
Speaker 1:Bradley. Oh, I know what happened. The fucking Bradley died in the Facts Against the Place episode.
Speaker 2:Ah right, but what pissed him over the heads that night?
Speaker 1:He killed someone, bradley, and please run to him. So he ran off. I know, faith. He killed someone. Now, what is it? Bradley killed someone. No faith, he killed. I'm reading now Faith he killed someone and Bradley went to set blame for it, but then ran off from place and then he ended up on a roof and died.
Speaker 2:Not a good time, right Did he, Bradley?
Speaker 1:No, I feel a bit sorry for him. Who did he kill Archie? Oh, he's him, innit. That's Archie innit. What's his name? Oh, fucking he's on. Oh, come on, larry Lam's dad. Oh, that's his name Larry Lam innit in fact. Yeah, but really come on Gavin and Stacey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know you mean it, I could picture him yeah.
Speaker 1:Pretty sure he had killed him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Larry.
Speaker 1:Lam, I enjoyed that. Liam, I really I'm not sure about that. I thought that was fantastic.
Speaker 2:I don't think it was that Amusing. We try and find humour and stuff. I don't think it would. We're always going to be a very serious thing.
Speaker 1:Watch that though honestly, if you've got a spare half an hour in your Christmas day.
Speaker 2:I think, if you watch it around this year as well, it's worth a look back at, because, yeah, it's well done. It actually makes me want to watch the next episode as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I might fucking delve into it tonight. But yeah, thanks for that, liam. Another watch along, probably the best watch along. We've done that, I think, in terms of how it works.
Speaker 2:Anyway, feel Christmasy after that.
Speaker 1:Not really. No, I mean there's not much Christmasy, but next up, next up, it's going to be very Christmasy because we're going to pick five songs each I think Liam Five of our favourite Christmas songs performed at top of the pops. We were going to do just the top of the pops, watch along, but we thought we'll mix it up and get a bit more festive.
Speaker 2:And do like five. Yeah, particularly after that, we're going to really want to hit you with the Christmas vibes. So, yeah, that should be good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so look forward to that, liam, and thank you very much and I'll see you next time.