Living With Madeley
"Living With Madeley" is a nostalgic TV based podcast that attempts to take a humorous look at some of the most weird, wonderful and woeful moments in UK television history.
Titled "Living With Madeley" as neither host can remember a week of their lives where Richard Madeley hasn't been on their screens, join Andrew and Liam as they take you on a journey to TV past.
Living With Madeley
Series 8 Episode 8 - Steve Irwin
Ever wondered what it might be like if Steve Irwin and Shane Warne were kindred spirits, swapping stories over a campfire? In this lively episode, we channel our inner Aussie as we dive into the electrifying world of Steve Irwin—the Crocodile Hunter himself. From his infectious energy and iconic safari attire to his fearless antics with crocodiles and other wildlife, we reminisce about the unforgettable moments that made Irwin a beloved figure.
Join us for a humorous journey through Steve's daring escapades, complete with amusing anecdotes like his unexpected surfing adventure in a safari suit and his compassionate rescue of missing scuba divers. But it's not all laughs and light-hearted stories. We also touch on the complexities surrounding his controversial parenting style and the surprising nature of his tragic death, given his extensive experience with dangerous animals. We reflect on the ethical questions about public figures' deaths and the enduring influence Steve had on raising awareness for wildlife conservation, even facing criticism from organizations like PETA.
As we wrap up, we celebrate Steve's passion for conservation and education, highlighting his efforts in reclaiming land for animals and inspiring a love for wildlife across the globe. With a whimsical look at the notion of having a species named in one's honor, inspired by a land snail named after Steve, we pay tribute to his remarkable legacy. So, tune in for a heartfelt tribute to Steve Irwin's life and work, sprinkled with humor and nostalgia.
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Speaker 2:G'day mate this is Living with Maydaly. It's a nostalgic TV podcast. My name's Andrew and I'm joined by Leroy. How's it going, mate?
Speaker 3:It's great. It's fantastic mate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to do an entire episode like that, but I can't I can't You're cutting out.
Speaker 3:You weren't bad there.
Speaker 2:I think it's an easy one to do the Aussie accent. It's a bit different to the New Zealand ones.
Speaker 3:It's a bit more subtly different, isn't it? Yeah, the certain vowels are different South African people struggle with. I think I can do a good South African.
Speaker 2:Do a South African? I used to work with South African. What do you want me to say?
Speaker 3:Can you please tell me if Coronation Street is on tonight? All right, mate, I think that Coronation Street might be on your TV tonight. I suspect it might be on around about 7.30, maybe 8. Unbelievable, completely mental introduction, isn't it? This is Steve Irwin episode of the podcast.
Speaker 2:This is the Steve Irwin episode, steve Robert Irwin, to give him his full title. I think what we're going to do is, rather than just say you know, because obviously he's got a massive career, rather than just saying we want to play this clip, we want to play that clip, we're going to do a little bit what we did with JP and drop in some of his better moments in between his talking.
Speaker 3:Yeah fair play to our good friend Eg, who has sent lots of clips in because I couldn't find the video that I wanted to use. So, yeah, you're going to hear bits of Steve cut through the general conversation. It's another free and easy one. You've done well. You've opened Wikipedia. I'm here more as a fanboy on this one, because I absolutely loved Steve Irwin.
Speaker 4:What a beautiful snake. You know what. I'm a professional. You see a snake like this, don't muck with it. And one thing's for sure don't try this at home. Far too dangerous. This snake could have enough venom to kill me and a hundred other blokes out here in the West. What an honour to share territory, share space, with such a beautiful animal. Oh steamer, I gotta tell you I'd rather deal with this snake than a lot of people I know. I reckon that people are much more dangerous I was going to mention.
Speaker 2:Actually, last night you said to me, if I criticize steve irwin, you're ending the podcast that we're going to mention. Actually, last night you said to me, if I criticise Steve Irwin, you're ending the podcast. That would have been the end, wouldn't it? That would have been an old one Liam thing, wouldn't it? The final straw yeah. The final straw. I mean I've criticised Westlife who you like. I'm trying to think who else you've liked that I've criticised.
Speaker 3:General, like music that I like, that you don't like, really isn't it?
Speaker 2:yeah, a lot of music I'm gonna say any of. I don't mind a bit or any, but anyway. But this we're going to be the final straw. But I do like steve irwin. I'm not as uh, I don't know as much about him as as you do or other people do it. I did used to watch it now and again when it were on, but I don't know, I just I like him a lot but I never watched it, a bit like Robot Wars. Anyway, a little bit about him. He was born on his mother's 20th birthday. Did you know that? No, yeah, so that's quite straightaway interesting. And he was born in Upper Fern Tree, gulley, in the same place where Shane Warne was born, the cricketer, well, yeah it's really like that, because they have a.
Speaker 3:In my mind they're kind of twinned, like I would believe they're brothers or cousins or something like that him and Shane Warne.
Speaker 2:Is that just because they're both Australian, you don't have that many Australians?
Speaker 3:Yeah, maybe so, but they do look and feel about him, don't they? People sort of say Shane Warne was a great storyteller and you? Get that same feeling about Steve Irwin. I think people would be drawn to him in a room. I certainly would be. His energy is phenomenal.
Speaker 2:It's amazing, actually. I mean, obviously it's a massive place. It's not that big. If I said to you we're doing Jason Donovan this week, there's no way I'd have started this episode going. All right, man, do you know what I mean? He's like a completely different man, isn't he? But if I were doing Shane Warne, I would start the episode in the exact same way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know, he's a bit more. Do you remember Sweet Valley Hider? It was like one of them was a nice twin and the other one was a bit sort of meaner.
Speaker 1:Yeah meaner.
Speaker 3:Yeah, now I'm hearing one's got a bit of a meaner. Look to him all right. Yeah, more aggressive, like I think steve irwin's the sort of nicey knight. I really like both of them, but I think steve irwin's the one who he's never going to let you down. Is he, steve irwin? No, anyway.
Speaker 2:his parents were of english and irish descent. He moved with his parents as a child to queensland in 1970, um and his parents started the small queens queensland reptile anduna Park. Is it Fauna? Is that right? Fauna? Yeah, fauna Park, yeah, where Steve grew up around crocodiles and other reptiles. Steve himself began handling crocodiles at the age of nine, after his father had educated him on reptiles from an early age, and at age nine he wrestled his first crocodile under his father's supervision. I love that.
Speaker 3:You read that when he was six, his dad gave him a 12-foot python as a present.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, he grew up with, obviously. I mean Irwin took over the management of the park in 1991. I mean, I'm trying to work out how old he would have been there 1942. He was born. No, no, that can't be so. Yes, it's not that thing. But he took care of the management of the park and he renamed it Australia Zoo in 1998, would you?
Speaker 3:have you never been to Australia? No, not any reason. I quite like the Aussies generally. I know there's a bit of rivalry between us both, but I think it's. I think they're kind of very similar people to the English, aren't they? I know they're a bit like our sort of madder cousins, aren't they?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Convict Island, isn't it Australia? That's where it started.
Speaker 3:Yeah, do you think that's why there's a bit of like a madness in the Australians?
Speaker 2:Again, though, if I mentioned Jason Donovan, to you.
Speaker 3:You would not think you were mad, would you yeah?
Speaker 2:he's quite a calm man, isn't he? Oh, and obviously in a completely different way, rolf Harris. Um, he's a madman, but not in the like. I mean, forget everything that he did.
Speaker 3:But you know, like again I want to go all right, he's very kind of larger than life, Steve Irwin.
Speaker 2:Who's the most famous Australian?
Speaker 3:Kyler Minogue.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd say so. Russell Crowe, kyler Minogue's not big in America at all.
Speaker 3:I don't see. Although I know Russell Crowe is Australian, I kind of almost he blows into being an American for me. I like the kind of Australians who are more Australian.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so not like your Nicole Kidman's, because she's American in my eyes, even though she obviously is Australian. Heath Ledger, he's an Australian. Yeah, I didn't even know he was.
Speaker 3:Australian yeah, yeah, yeah, he's number one. Yeah, I didn't even know he was.
Speaker 2:Australian. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's number one according to thefamouspeoplecom. If I went to Australia.
Speaker 3:I would hope that there are people like Steve Irwin around. Just he could be up for anything. I can imagine you wake him up at four in the morning and say I've got to go out and there's a car stuck in a ditch. All right, mate, get your boots on. Get your boots on. Yeah, get out, anything goes. I think he'd just be up for anything and I think, yeah, just just an incredibly likable chap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Do you know what I thought? I've been watching clips of him recently.
Speaker 3:I little bit of what paul sykes could have been if he'd have grown up on the right side of the tracks. Yeah, I see where you're coming from. Yeah, I think he he's got that intensity, hasn't he? Like? He's kind of I don't know, he's like manic, but but he's in a very positive way, isn't it?
Speaker 2:yeah, he's the positive side of like psych. So when he's, there's a clip where his kid's being born and his eyes are genuinely the widest eyes. Have you seen this clip? Yeah, yeah, yeah, where he's like, oh my, it's like he's stunned that he's having a kid, Like he's brilliant to watch, but it's like he's proper manic, isn't he in his?
Speaker 3:eyes. Is that the one where it's like he's almost forgotten that he's already had another kid, because he says something like, oh my God, cool, this is the best moment ever. Well, it was when I had the first one as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah it's like I better never want to get. But I didn't know. I never wanted to be a dad, did I? I was just completely obsessed with crocodiles and shit. I didn't want to have kids or anything, no time for anything other than crocodiles?
Speaker 3:yeah, you follow his kids like what they're. I've seen Bindi does some stuff that I've seen on TV and I know it's Robert. I think he's now sort of running the zoo or between.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 3:I'm aware of them, but they've not grabbed me in the same way. I remember the first time that I saw Steve Irwin. It was like right, whatever this is, I'm watching this every week. I presume it was Crocodile Hunter where I first saw him.
Speaker 2:Well, that's his first big thing. Yeah, crocodile Diaries debuted on Australian TV in 1996, which is before he changed it to Australia Zoo in 1998, sorry, yeah. So he eventually reached 500 million people worldwide, though, and his catchphrase Crikey became known internationally. Sir David, worldwide, that, and his catchphrase crikey, we became known. Uh internationalized, uh said, say. David attenborough praised erwin uh for introducing many to the natural world. He said he taught them how wonderful and exciting it was.
Speaker 3:He is a born communicator, so if you've got attenborough on your side, then you know well, yeah, and I get his point because I love nature documentaries, obviously, other than, uh, bears catching salmons, I'm up for you don't like penguins, do you?
Speaker 2:I know I don't like penguins either is it pandas you don't like um, or is it just penguins. Have I got mixed up? I think it's.
Speaker 3:I would like if I wouldn't want something exclusively about pandas, but if they were part of it, I wouldn't turn over but you're penguins I don't mind them on land, I think they're quite funny sort of waddling about, but I just don't really get.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just don't really get them. Um, sorry, that was a complete tangent now. Yeah, but yeah, I think attenborough's it is a bit dry, like I. I get why some kids would listen to attenborough, like when it's quite slow and this is where the the tortoise finds its dinner, whatever he's talking about. Whereas you've got this madman. He sort of jumps onto screen, doesn't he? Like all right guys? I love what he's dealing with, sort of like snakes and spiders and things, how he calls everything. Mate, you all right mate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you all right, mate. I've got this little man here all day. Hey, mate, calm down, mate, calm down. Why is he always in his safari gear? Can you tell me that, even like when he's just doing normal things?
Speaker 3:The best part about that is because, yeah, he's always in his safari gear, whatever he's doing. But one of the clips Eggie sent yesterday I don't know if I've seen before, but it made me laugh out loud he goes surfing in his full safari kit. Yeah's like he's big boot in the sea. Yes, and he's a good like he's good.
Speaker 2:He's a surfer really good.
Speaker 3:Surfer yeah, really good yeah he's in full safari kit and then at the end of it you'll you'll hear it at some point. I'm probably a good point to put it in here now. But he's sort of surfing in the waves. And then he, he dives under the water, he goes oh right, he comes up with that. He says I've got a poisonous snake in my hand here. This is why I love being out here.
Speaker 2:He's just grabbed like a poisonous snake by the way, obviously because I know it's steve irwin, it's real. But if I didn't know steve irwin and he's doing this surfing thing and what he did, what he just talked about, I had a thought that's cgi.
Speaker 3:Yeah there's no way anyone's just dived on the water and come up with a poisonous snake.
Speaker 4:We're over here looking for hot snakes and hot surf. Oh, how's this? There's a venomous snake sheer on our surf spot. Have a look at this. What a beauty. And this is what I love about surfing in Indonesia Sitting out here waiting for the waves to come, and this beautiful big girl comes up, as if to say G'day, Steve-o, have a look at me. And finally surfs up. One thing left to do get the big gun out and hit it. Surf's totally blown out. Have a look at this, have a go at this.
Speaker 2:Can you surf in massive boots? I'm sure there's a reason that people don't wear huge shoes.
Speaker 3:I've never seen anybody surfing in either just shorts or a wetsuit. I've never seen anybody wearing any other clothes for surfing. He's got a safari suit.
Speaker 2:Safari suit brilliant Crocodile Divers ran for nearly 11 years and it was the second longest running program of any Discovery communications network behind Mythbusters, which I've never seen. Mythbusters, oh, I've seen some of them. Yeah, it's all right. Is it as good as what's his face? Jonathan Frakes, not this time, no way.
Speaker 3:Uh yeah, it's a different sort of thing, like they do experiments to try and prove, like I don't know, do you know, like safe I'm thinking of. There's something in a film where somebody sort of curves a bullet shot. They sort of swing their arm across and they manage to curve a bullet around something and they sort of test.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not possible um one of them's always like really grumpy and one of them's quite happy. But yeah, the crocodile hunter. I don't know if it was hunter or diaries or if they both blurred into one, I'm not sure, but did you used to watch it where? Because obviously, like it was clips of him out and about, yeah, calling animals mate and stuff, but then some of it was about the zoo and I love that's like a result and it's like relegated it to.
Speaker 2:It's just him calling animals mate and that you know. Yeah, but he.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but there'd always be, sort of like this week, there's a drama when one of the I don't know the cage for the anacondas is falling apart. Yeah, and they'd have to go on some kind of mission to sort of fix the cage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:There's a guy called Wes in it that I remember. Yeah, I don't know if you've got notes of all the other ones, but no, no, uh, I haven't got the names to be honest, I'll try and I'll try about, though about like you have to do stuff.
Speaker 2:But did you know you might? You probably know this, I think it's fairly famous, but in november 2003, erwin, we're filming a documentary uh on sea lions on the coast of uh california. In uh california, pennies failure come on, pennies whale yeah, that's right pennies in California, in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1:Come on, pennsylvania, that's right, pennsylvania, pennsylvania.
Speaker 2:No, it's not no. Pennsylvania, mexico. Anyway, anyway, fuck it. You know, if you know, you know. Anyway, he heard via his boat's radio that two scuba divers had been reported.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I read this, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Irwin, entire crew suspended operations to try and look for this guy, these two guys, should I say um and his team's team's divers search with the actual rescue divers, and erwin used his vessel to patrol the waters around the island. On the second day of the search they found one of the divers, uh, perched on a narrow ledge, um, just outside of a cliff and they escorted into erwin's boat um the other lost driver, kat Katie Vrooman, unfortunately found dead by a search plane later, but just goes. You know a real measure of the man he abandoned everything he was doing to try and find these two in trouble divers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and absolutely. I don't believe for one second that that was sort of for publicity. I just think he's out there.
Speaker 1:We've got to find him mate.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's it. He wants to help. I just think that's the guy that he was.
Speaker 4:Look over there. Look over there. Can you see it? Some sort of bush hand looks like a freaking panda. I reckon it's got two, maybe even four plus legs. God, it looks like a? L a lazy son of a bitch. Come on, let's dive on the shit. You didn't expect that, did you? The little prick? Get off my dog. What have you done? What have I done? I've dived on you, you donut, and I'll dive on you if you don't sort your head out. Get out. I am a freaking nightmare.
Speaker 2:Other things that we did outside of Crocodile Diaries, by the way, is we went on to star in the Croc Files Sorry, the Crocodile Hunter Diaries, which were different to the Crocodile Diaries, which I didn't really know, and the Ten Deadliest Snakes in the World, and he also had a cameo in Doctor Dolittle 2. And he starred in his own comedy film. I'd like to ask you about this, because obviously I've never seen it. It's a film. I've never seen Doctor Dolittle 2 or one or anything with Eddie Murphy in it. I don't think You've never seen a film. I've seen Professor Klump's, I think. Is it Clumps or is it?
Speaker 3:the Clumps? Yeah, Professor Clumps. Are you mixing up two different things there? I'm not sure.
Speaker 2:I've seen one of them. I've seen one of them, that one where he gets really fat in it. Yeah, or is it? Nutty Professor? Nutty Professor.
Speaker 3:Professor Clumps.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen one of them too at a cinema, but other than that I don't think I've ever seen any. I've never seen lethal weapon anyway um, I think you're eddie murphy.
Speaker 3:Um, you must see beverly hills cop never seen it.
Speaker 2:Wow, never seen. Yeah, I've never seen beverly hills cop. Um, I've seen seeing a weevil in a weevil, which is completely different film.
Speaker 1:But I do like that.
Speaker 2:Um, but that's richard pryor in it, like eddie murphy, so, um, complete anyway. Uh, I'd like to ask you about this comedy film. Did you know that he starred in his own film, the crocodile hunt? A collision course?
Speaker 3:no I want to see this. I don't know, it's an actual film?
Speaker 2:um, it's not. It's not a documentary, it's a film. Um got awful reviews but it did make 28 and a half million at the box office, um, which were against the production budget of just 12 million. So it was a success, um, but, yeah, terrible reviews apparently a really, really really bad film, um, but you sure I'm adding it, so I think you should probably go and watch it. Yeah, I will have a look for that, definitely on january. The second, and I think this is where you're gonna uh use one of your heartfelt defences of Mr Irwin On January 2nd 2004, irwin carried his one-month-old son, robert, in his arm while hand-feeding a chicken carcass to Murray, a 3.8-metre, which is 12ft, 6in saltwater crocodile. The infant was really close with the crocodile and comparisons were made to when Michael Jackson dangled his son outside of a German hotel window.
Speaker 1:TV's crocodile hunter, steve Irwin, takes his one-month-old son to his debut crocodile feeding in Brisbane, australia, in front of a crowd of onlookers. Not since Michael Jackson dangled his baby over a balcony has a celebrity's parenting decisions been so questioned. Little baby, bob Irwin, is being held in daddy's arms just a few feet from a full-grown crocodile, with mom grinning as she looks on at the stunt.
Speaker 2:Now you're not having this, are you?
Speaker 3:Well, that's just a life they lead Like. That's just that they lead like that's. That's just. That is what it is like some people. Some people might say I can't believe you put your child in a car and drive at 70 miles an hour a motorway with other four ton piece of metal driving at speed around you. That's just his life, that's what he's, that's what he's doing. He's got his kid with him and he needs to feed a crocodile.
Speaker 2:He said he was in complete control all the time. I imagine his dad did exactly the same to him. You know what I mean. I imagine, like I mean there is. Admittedly, I get. I mean if you were doing it, I'd be saying what the fuck is this guy doing?
Speaker 3:But you're not a trained crocodile hunter, are you?
Speaker 2:it's not, I don't think. Don't try this at home the funny.
Speaker 3:the bit I found funny is not the bit where he's feeding the crocodile to it, but he then sort of puts his kid on the floor and sort of makes it walk and, like, kids always look funny, like when they're like that, when they kind of can't yeah, they're so sort of incompetent, aren't they? Young kids, shit like compared to animals, run around and jump and stuff, yeah yeah, yeah, it's useless for ages, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I don't know, what would you say about Michael Jackson then you think that's completely different, because Michael Jackson's not a trained I mean, obviously, if Glace Hernandez is listening here, a friend of the show, we have to be very careful, but do you think what Jackson did were worse then?
Speaker 3:I mean they're both they. I mean they're both a mistake away from disaster, aren't they? If you drop the kid and a crocodile grabs it and takes it underwater, that's it. If you drop your kid off, however many stories up he was, that's it. So, it is unnecessary risk, but I just think, I don't know. I think Michael Jackson I can't imagine what he was doing, but I just think, with Steve Irwin, whether or not he became famous, he would have been feeding some crocodiles and he's got his kid with him. That's what he does.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to be jumping around a bit here, but I do want to talk about his death, because I found this I didn't know this about his death. Yeah it's crazy Fourth of September. Know this about his death yeah, it's crazy 4th September 2006 after being pierced in the chest by a short-tailed stingray Barb while filming for a documentary called Ocean's Deadliest.
Speaker 3:I made it sound like you were doing a royal family impression. But I said Barb.
Speaker 2:Right, barb, barb, barbara. He was stabbed immediately and he was pulled from his water, pulled from the water by his colleagues onto a 75-foot yacht which attempted to rush to shore as he started bleeding, obviously, which eventually killed him. An hour had passed before they made it to land, during which time Irwin's colleague and the man who was behind the camera as he was attacked, justin Lyons, performed CPR on him while a second cameraman continued shooting footage. This is what I found really interesting. Um, because erwin apparently said from if I die on camera, I want, I want it to be filmed, I want this to be filmed. His final words were I'm dying, but he, he was happy for for the cameras to be filmed. And this is now one of the most highly sought after pieces of Lost Media, which I'd love to do an episode on Lost Media, by the way, because it is out there somewhere, unless the family have gone out and destroyed it, which some people obviously have said.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was a period where, like supposedly you could kind of find it if you wanted to see it. I was absolutely devastated when he died. He's one of my, you know. I think jokingly said JP was one of your top ten people. Yeah, he's not really Steve Irwin would kind of be in my sort of top. I don't know ten, twenty celebrities ever we should do that, That'd be a good episode.
Speaker 2:That Our top ten TV men of all time.
Speaker 3:That's a good episode we might do that next year Like sort of dream dinner guests and stuff like that, not necessarily dinner guests because, I don't know, maybe there's a difference, isn't there, between, like, steve Irwin and Mike Paré?
Speaker 2:I would go on a night out with Mike Paré that's a lie, but Steve Irwin's obviously a better man than Mike Paré. But how do you compare those two, two giants of the game in completely different ways.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'd have to sort of perhaps come up with categories like who do you want to go for a pint with?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But then another one would be like who are you going to be in a car with on a long journey? Because you wouldn't want Parry for that, would you?
Speaker 2:You probably wouldn't want Steve Irwin either be jumping out. Look at that crikey Diving out out like getting I don't know. It looks like some fucking bush hound and he's just like like a dog or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, every time he's, yeah, an animal, you've got to stop the car.
Speaker 2:Oh, come on, steve, there's a lot of chat there's a lot of sorry. There's a lot of chat on his death about you know, people think, because he wanted people to see his death and he wanted it filmed, should the public be able to see it. As he's considering he's like one of your favorite men. How do you? What do you feel about that?
Speaker 3:well, I, I remember sort of seeing things like a video of steve irwin's death and I've never sort of clicked on it. I don't, I don't. Yeah, I want to see it, um, but I know what you mean. If he wanted that to be sort of, this is the reality of working with dangerous animals, there's an argument that should be shown. I, just as I say someone who I have a lot of affection for, I don't really want to see him die. You know, it's like you said, it's really sort of sad hearing that his last words were I'm dying. It's not like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not like no time to think about it almost.
Speaker 3:He must be watching somebody process the fact that they know they're dying, and that must be awful one of my favorite pieces of lost media and it's not really a favorite because it's horrible.
Speaker 2:But do you hear about that news reporter who shot herself live on air? I think you've told me about that. Yeah, and the the only the audio is out there. It's horrible. Obviously, christine chabot I want to call her, I think that's her name, um, and she wanted that to go out live but her brother has like sort of said, look, no, somehow it got leaked the audio. Someone does have the footage of that.
Speaker 3:I think that's a bit different, doesn't it? Because that's somebody who's clearly sort of mentally in a very bad place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah I completely agree with what I had to say. I think that shouldn't be shown, or whatever, because but? Steve Irwin is doing the job that he loves and knew the risks, and I suppose it's down to his wife and kids, isn't it, terry? Terry Irwin? Do you know much about Terry Irwin?
Speaker 3:No other than that. Obviously she appears in a lot of stuff with him. Yeah, I don't. Again, she seems quite a likeable sort of character, but no, I don't know a huge amount about her.
Speaker 2:Steve. Irwin Day is an annual event on the 15th of November, honouring the life and legacy of Irwin, and the date was chosen because it takes place on the birthday of one of Irwin's favourite animals, a tortoise from the Galapagos Island. Galapagos yeah are you a tortoise fan? No. I'm a longevity of the guys I like people have them as pets, don't they?
Speaker 3:but yeah, I'm not not that fussed about it. People have them as pets don't they?
Speaker 2:I don't know if, like you're getting much, I don't know what you're getting out of a out of a tortoise, though I mean, if people got tortoises, let us know what do they get?
Speaker 3:up to. I think you put them in a box over. I suppose, like waking him up again is a bit like a thing, isn't it like should we go get him? Wake him up, wake him up.
Speaker 2:He must be really tired we're talking about like 150, aren't we?
Speaker 3:erm, I don't, I don't know, I don't have any facts. Yeah, I'd certainly think over 100, I would guess. Erm, you think, by the way, like this I'm just not well, like this I'm not well. I suppose I am making light of it, but yeah, do you not think Dick is the only person in the world with that death? Do you know that when you go on Wikipedia and it says like cause of death, do you think anybody else has got stingray injury to the heart?
Speaker 2:Well, I put that the animal actually that killed him. I can't remember what it is now I've wrote it down Stingray. Yeah, but it was a uh short tail yeah, anyway, and it's like it's not known at all for killing. I think that's what I was shocked about when I heard about his death. Like when he died, I think fucking hell must have been a crocodile or some sort of fucking bear or whatever up to. And you think, right, it was just a short tail stingray. And you think really, really surprised by that.
Speaker 3:Um, but you could have been like considering the massive animals that is wrestling, wrestling with I would have guessed sort of venomous snake, I think yeah, yeah, snakes another one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I was just thinking it's not really known. It says, like you know, humans can normally approach them. According to wikipedia, this is anyway.
Speaker 3:Um, so it was, I mean obviously we went to we weren't actually Disney World, it was second week in Orlando but we went to the, the sort of I don't know what you call it, like a water park really, and I know some people are sort of against these sort of places. They have got dolphins there, you know. I don't quite know how I feel about after this story.
Speaker 2:Liam, remind me, tell them about that lie. You told me when we went to the zoo and I believed you for some reason.
Speaker 3:All right, okay but but yeah, so we, we went into like a big pool and you swim with loads and loads of stingrays and I must admit I did keep thinking like I I don't really, obviously I don't want to die, but there was something quite nice to sort of go in the same way, steve Irwin, you and Steve.
Speaker 2:Irwin on Wikipedia people killed by Stingray Steve Irwin. Stingray to the heart. Yeah, popular.
Speaker 3:I mean if and when well, if and when, when my time will come, when it's not an if, but when it comes, I don't know. Ai mate, yeah that, that's yeah that. I didn't want one to get me, but I did think it would be quite nice if the same ending as Steve Irwin in a way would you like to go out the same way?
Speaker 2:obviously Jonathan Pearce is dead so I can't compare myself to him. I'm trying to think of a hero. I'm not genuinely going to say he's Freddie Mercury, but obviously I don't want to. I don't want to go the same way as that. But yeah, I'm trying to think who else are like, who are my heroes?
Speaker 3:James Dean, was he like just?
Speaker 1:John.
Speaker 3:Lennon.
Speaker 2:Shot. Yeah, I think that's definitely a better one. James Dean, were we a motorbike man? Weren't we better one? Irwin's in it? Uh, james Dean, what were you motorbike man? Werner?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're at a car crash or a motorbike crash Drunk, um sorry.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you the best one. Uh, entwistle the uh who basis do apparently. Uh, he had like two women on the go and he was doing cocaine in his room. So maybe not choosing that, choosing that mate, yeah, oh you've not really chosen that over freddie mercury terrible, terrible um I think, yeah, let's, let's move on from that move on from that.
Speaker 2:Uh, do you know what animal he was afraid of the most? Two animals that he were afraid of the most, um, I can understand the other one. I'm not even afraid of himself wolf. Now, one of them's a hippopotamus yeah, deadly, deadly yeah, um. After his death, the? Um footage came out about him saying he does not want to ever do anything with hippopotamuses. He's got no, no interest in it. Um, because he's afraid of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do not want anything to do with it.
Speaker 2:I do not want anything to do with hippos. Strange statement to make, isn't it? And the other one, parrots. Yeah, I don't quite get that one. It says for some reason parrots have to bite me, that's their job. I don't know why that is, but they've nearly tore my nose off. I've had some really bad parrot bites in the past.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't like birds up close. They're a bit jittery, aren't they? You can't trust them, can you? Around your eyes, I think.
Speaker 2:The parrots you mean, or just birds in general?
Speaker 3:Well, parrots have not got the sharp beaks. They're probably not as bothered about that. To be honest, I can't even think of when I've ever been close to a bird, so I don't. I don't know when I've ever put that to the test, but I don't think I'd like a bird sort of. You know people haven't sat on the hand like I don't like the idea of sort of being around my eyes, yeah.
Speaker 1:Fair enough.
Speaker 2:One quick peck and that's it, isn't it? So you know I can understand it completely.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, you think they might be on some sort of collective revenge mission?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think they've obviously listened to that podcast in particular. You fucked it. Next time you go to Brighton or wherever there's loads of seagulls and shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah fair point, but that is basically the thing of my research there, liam. So what I want to do here is sort of pass on to you to give like I mean him, so I. What I want to do here is sort of pass on to you to give, like I mean, I'm putting you on the spot a little bit, but I know this is one of your favorite men and I know that we can't really do injustice and stuff, but what is it? Would you say that you, where did you? Where did you meet the man? Like when you first saw him, did you think? I'm watching this guy every week?
Speaker 3:yeah, from from the first moment I saw him, I was sort of hooked on what, whatever he was up to, and yeah, I just I loved, like I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of preparation in what he did. Well, I'm not sure there was actually, but I just loved how sort of reactive he was. It's sort of he's walking along, talk to camera, and then it's like, oh right, hold on a minute. And then he's up a tree like he's got a snake somewhere or like he's in a river somewhere. Like, yeah, I just I just can imagine he was sort of a joy to be around. He just he just seems such a happy man all the time. Yeah, yeah, he went. So animals are biting him and things it. It was always sort of really quick to point out look, it's always my fault if something goes wrong.
Speaker 4:It's not the animal, the animal's just doing what it does I don't know whether you can see it I got hit by an alligator last night like right.
Speaker 1:Did a pretty heavy makeup job on it. I was on the.
Speaker 4:Jay Leno show and it goes. What Hit me right in the cheekbone? I'll get bitten occasionally, you know, every now and again. But it's never the animal's fault, it's always my fault. I know what I'm going up against when I go in and if I take a hit.
Speaker 3:Nobody's kind of got a bad word. It's not like some people were like production people said it was yeah, it was hard work. And what's going on with the Greg Wallace thing, by the way, what's that?
Speaker 2:I know we don't do this sort of stuff midweek, but I mean, I've heard some stories you know I like to keep up my tittle-tattle with celebrities. Yeah, I've heard there's a bit of a creep behind the scenes to the ladies and he said some very nasty things Not nasty things, but sort of you know, you won't like, you know it's not. He genuinely, apparently said this is what I've read that when he went to I can't remember where he was someone said who's in charge? And it were a woman and he goes no, come on, really, who's in charge? Can't be you, darling, very sexist man. I think he's a bit of a prick. Obviously, there's that famous Twitter exchange I don't know if you've seen that where someone says all right, greg, and he put, okay, no problem, mate, it's only cancer. Fuck off, master, master, twat right?
Speaker 3:no, I don't think I knew that. So, so is he off, off screen. Is he suspended then?
Speaker 2:he's been suspended. Yeah, he's been suspended. I've never liked him. I don't know why, I think I think he just gives that for all. I mean, he's that fantastic article as well in the I can't remember what magazine it was where he talks about a day in the life. I honestly thought have you read this?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember this coming out. He sort of begrudgingly, seemingly by the article, gives his wife and kids off an hour and then he's off out doing his own stuff.
Speaker 2:But he's so slight part of it. He says, like I go to the gym early, they open up for me early so I can have a swim on my own. So that's pretty way like a prick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Partridge is shopping at Tandy, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then he says something along the lines of he's on about wellbeing and stuff and he says so I like to listen to the experts, although I'm an expert myself. Well, yeah. And then he says he likes to spend about an hour a day with his kid, who he didn't want.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know, I don't find him likeable, I don't know exactly what the accusations are, but yeah, I mean we don't condone him. I don't condone him at the moment because I don't know what he's done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he's obviously not on the same level as Steve Irwin. If he was still around, Irwin, do you reckon he'd just be doing the same stuff now? Do you think he'd have branched out? Maybe he'd host a MasterChef Crikey? What the Tastes like some sort of he doesn. I swear to someone's had a fucking sausage.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine him just grabbing stuff out of the oven Like, oh my God, it's fucking red hot, it's burning me hands?
Speaker 2:Do you reckon he's like that with everything? Because he was really into his sport, weren't he?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was into mixed martial arts. I didn't know that, some sort of jiu-jitsu, I think he did.
Speaker 2:Did he do? It weren't rugby, I think it might have been Aussie Rules, which is obviously even rougher. And he tried he got the strongest bloke in this team, or whatever it were like a famous Aussie Rules team to rugby tackle him and although he went flying, he got up like a delight a day, didn't he? You're alright mate. You're alright mate. It's my fault, not your fault. I don't know. I reckon everything Just purely from that video of him looking at his kid, which is obviously an amazing moment, but I can imagine everything just blows his mind.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it does seem just to find joy in everything.
Speaker 2:Have you ever seen him in a bad mood? Have you ever seen any episode where he's like not really up for it today, guys?
Speaker 3:No, I don't think so, like it's just everything's like just a challenge to him that just needs to be dealt with Like the zoo. It's like you say it's hard to do without swearing. He never swears. To do without swearing. If they never swears, I don't know why. Yeah, the, uh, the fucking kangaroos have got out. Now problems, we'll go and fucking find them and get them back in. Um, I don't know if you ever swore like even off cameras, I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you ever swore, but I think we're getting out from the bob mortimer sketch yeah yeah, there's a bob mortimer sketch, we're gonna drop it at some point we're not gonna tell you which one it is. I'm sure you'll be able to tell. Well, you will do now anyway. But we're going to drop a. Bob Morton did a sketch called the Croc Botherer which I absolutely love, and it is Steve Irwin where he's. There's a brilliant bit in it where he goes. I brought some fucking tinnies with me, like because it was.
Speaker 3:He just has one sip of it and then he throws rest at cans and goes ah, sweet, it's absolutely brilliant making fun of the steve irwin type, and he has actually had some criticism. I couldn't actually find any sort of sort of anything to read out on this, but I do remember there's sort of being stick around, was it? Was it peter, the protection of animals, or so shit. People sort of said he the way that that he kind of just goes out.
Speaker 2:I thought you meant Peter. I'm thinking of like Peter. I'm thinking who's fucking Peter?
Speaker 3:No, like P-E-T-A, I think there was some claims made about him, yeah where the P-E-T-A.
Speaker 3:you're right. Yeah, the way that he handled wildlife and how sort of intrusive he was and you know, that sort of grabbing a snake by its tail and sort of distressing it, but I mean, I don't know, it wasn't. They weren't captured or darted or sedated. He just sort of, you know, had quite a couple of minutes to show you what they were and then let them go on the way and made sure, like I seem to remember him sort of like oh, we'll make sure we cover him in some nice cool leaves. I think he did his best to not be disruptive, whilst trying to show the public, and particularly in a way that was really good for kids, to sort of engage with animals. So yeah, I don't criticise him.
Speaker 4:If there's one thing that I, steve Irwin, would want to be remembered for, it's be remembered for passion and enthusiasm. Conservation is my job, my whole persona, my life revolves around that. So do my friends, family, colleagues. Everyone I know is involved in conservation and you know, I get this overwhelming feeling that I'm sharing my wildlife encounters with you. What a beautiful thing. I never really thought that was going to happen. A lot of people say why? Why did you touch that snake? Why did you catch that goanna? If I can't get animals into people's hearts, there'll be no conservation, there'll be absolutely conservation. There'll be absolutely no love for our wild animals, and that would be devastating. Everything would just suffer and this would be a very ugly world. We need wilderness areas which are conserved by looking after, let's say, crocodiles, to produce food and water and to have a very healthy green planet and, in essence, by conserving wildlife, I am helping humanity. That's what I'd like to be remembered for.
Speaker 2:That's what I'd like to be remembered for. I mean, obviously I'm not an expert on this, but it seems like they got absolutely hammered for criticising him. To be fair, when I've tried to have a look about because obviously they put loads of tweets out it was on his 57th birthday. Actually, petter. This is it Petter P? I don't bloody know. I don't know. Yeah, whatever they're called. They put loads of tweets out basically just criticising him, talking about how wild animals should be left alone and they shouldn't be there for entertainment and stuff like that, and they got an unbelievable amount of backlash.
Speaker 3:It's a bit like the Zeus thing, though, isn't it? Where do you stand on? Oh sorry, we're going to say what did I tell you in a zoo? That you believed?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the're going to say what did I tell you in Azu that you believed? Oh yeah, the Azu Was this in Tenerife. Yeah, the monkeys, if you remember this? Yeah, can I remember this?
Speaker 3:I'm not sure remind me.
Speaker 2:I can't remember why you said I can't remember how I believed this, but you told me that after every year, they kill the monkeys and replace them because they're new ones monkeys and replace them because they're yeah, we're new ones. And you thought they did. Oh, absolutely gutted.
Speaker 3:I remember walking around like yeah well, the funniest thing I remember about that is we were stood, and again this goes back onto the ethics of a zoo. Are they rightly wrong? But it's sort of conservation and raising awareness and raising money and all that sort of thing are the pros, aren't they? But then there are times when you go to a zoo and this, this was a bit like that in Tenerife. It was almost just like a concrete box and there was, I want to say I don't know what they were, there was some sort of monkeys in there and there was like three of them sat down. It's just ridiculous. And our mate Stratford was there, who's kind of got a very he's a very strange character, isn't he?
Speaker 2:He's a bit like Steve Irwin A little bit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he sort of speaks as he finds and very eccentric. But there was a young family stood next to us and obviously we were in Tenerife, but loads of English people there, so it weren't as if they couldn't understand. They were English and they were looking at these little monkeys and Stratford turned to me no wonder, no wonder all the fuckers have got cancer why did?
Speaker 1:he say that good, I don't know and I said what were you talking about?
Speaker 3:and he pointed sorry, he pointed at the biggest he pointed at the biggest monkey sorry, this is the most I've laughed for ages. He said look at the state of that guy. He'll be dead.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, I'm laughing now. I don't even know what you're going to say.
Speaker 3:He pointed at the biggest one and he said look at the state of that guy. He'll be dead in weeks.
Speaker 2:Why did he decide to deal with cancer?
Speaker 3:And then he just marched off like that was it, Just move on to the next animal. Why? Did he decide that he wasn't saying it to be funny. He was just sort of thinking out loud.
Speaker 2:Why does he think this guy is funnier to us, probably, than to the audience? Oh, sorry about that he gets things in his head which he's decided. He does this a lot, doesn't he? Where he gets things in his head which he's decided. He does this a lot, doesn't he?
Speaker 3:where, like he'll decide something's true, and then he'll get outraged. He winds himself up about something he's called himself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's made it up, yeah, yeah, he's made it up in his own head. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I forgot about that on the Zoom. Well, on the Steve Irwin with Petter Peter, I with petter peter I'm going to call him peter because he sounds more, uh, disparaging. Um, they uh woman here called maureen johnson who said steve erwin and his family reclaimed land for animals and run a massive wildlife rescue. His life mission was to save animals and educate people about them. I'm one of the many vegetarians who rip their hair out whenever peter petter weighs in. Shame on you. And that got 28 and a half thousand likes.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, that's good then. Maybe that's why I couldn't sort of find much on the controversy.
Speaker 2:Loads of others as well. Yeah, they say. You, Petter, are just a bunch of sharks who feed on controversy. You do nothing useful at all. Yeah, they got hammered for it. So you know 1-0, Steve Irwin is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so the conclusion is that he is and was a great man. Yeah, I mean, there's not. I haven't got loads more to add on him, to be honest. Yeah, like you said, obviously he did play some rugby, rugby union. Yeah, I'm just skipping through to see if there's anything else worth talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because obviously, you know this is a bit of a free and easy one, because we can't do him justice. He's done what 20 odd years or whatever.
Speaker 3:There was something about his achievements or awards that I'm not sure we've gone into. Honours Should have been that. I know you can't, but there was something about yeah, this is the bit I wanted to read out. So, um, some, somebody found a new type of land snail and they named after it. They named it after him. Have you read this? No, no, no. Can you guess what they called it? Steve Irwin? No, they called it a crikey. Steve Irweeny. That's quite good, actually.
Speaker 2:I quite like that. Are you happy?
Speaker 3:with that Er yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't understand what would you? Is there any animals You'd like to be named?
Speaker 3:Why was it Steve Irwini? Why put the I on the end? I don't know why, steve.
Speaker 2:Irwini, I don't get that. Erm, is there any animals or insects that you'd like to be named? I'd like to be named after the humble ant. You must be named after it, not after the. Sorry, I'd like an ant the humble, imagine. They don't live very long, so that'd be a waste of time, wouldn't it? Uh, you what?
Speaker 3:you want. You want an ant named after you, yeah, yeah, because they don't live very long species, if it's. If it's around now, it's been around for millions of years on it, so it's doing all right, yeah, but I'm not very good.
Speaker 2:But they're very good at like building stuff, aren't they? And obviously I've got dyspraxia, so that would be a terrible idea for them imagine dyspraxic and like people falling down and stuff.
Speaker 3:Everyone's looking at him. He's done that bit. Yeah, side of the nest falling off again yeah, I don't know what else I do.
Speaker 2:I mean, I like all the animals.
Speaker 3:I love gazelles, to be honest well, so you'd like a new species of gazelle to be named after yeah, to name after me, they're.
Speaker 2:They're quite. I mean, they're not clumsy as such, but they're a bit, you know, I mean a bit erratic yeah and they're ginger, I don't see you as a gazelle, to be honest.
Speaker 3:But yeah, okay, you can have that. What are you calling it?
Speaker 2:hey, guinea uh, I'll call it um. Panchero is actually a good name, isn't it?
Speaker 3:yeah, a panchero, yeah yeah, I don't know what I would want named after me. Um, what am I gonna go for, I don't know. Yeah, just uh, just a bug or something, right? So?
Speaker 2:that's Steve Irwin. We always wanted to cover him. We didn't really know how to do it. We've probably not done him justice, but with all these things we're going to try and do more. The stuff that we've stayed away from because there's too much to go at, we're just going to. We're just going to have a go at him. We're going to have a go at him. Yeah, we're just going to have a go on the limb.
Speaker 3:We're going to have a go at him. Go and have a go. Yeah, we're just going to have a swing and a hit, and if it's a swing and a miss then we apologize. But that's it.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of things that we wanted to do and we've not covered, because we said how'd you tackle this with all this?
Speaker 3:what we would have done with steve irwin is we would have said watch this particular episode. But I think, yeah, we just wanted to do more of a bit of a tribute to the guy rather than just focus on one episode or something. And yeah, that'll probably be similar to what we do. We mentioned Sopranos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll do more tributes, and next up is Rolf Harris. Next up we're actually doing a documentary because we want to get another one out fairly quickly and a documentary is always easy to do and it's one that we've had in the vaults in it for ages. And major charles um, fresh from his uh baby byfield, coming out with the you know you can nominate for the baby by- yeah, can you still get your nominations in?
Speaker 2:I think you can still get your nominations in we'll. When we do a midweek, we'll go through the groups and stuff for the baby byfield awards. Good, go on major charles's pay. I don't know if he's locked it, just put Baby Byfield on Twitter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's Our sort of interpretation is he's wanting the most Sort of thing you would associate with football this year, from this year. Yeah, and it Generally he's a person, but it doesn't have to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he's the most 2024 footballer this year. Not necessarily a footballer Could be, but David Coote's getting a lot of. Yeah, yeah, this year, so not necessarily a footballer could be, you know, but David Coote's getting a lot of nominations because obviously he's the sort of man that you think. Oh, yeah, I remember that. You know what I mean. The sort of person you remember. Oh, I remember that.
Speaker 3:You nominated the, the official who was eating a sandwich in front of Chris Wilder, did you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the official sandwich. In front of Chris Wilder. I've gone for Noel Gallagher doing co-commentary which I just find absolutely outrageous, by the way and I've gone for Glenn Helder, which I'm sure no one will realise unless they've listened to our podcast, but that's the Jesus Christus guy we talked about on the England route to the final podcast that we did a couple of months back, jesus Christus Living with Madeleine. So that's Steve Irwin. Thanks for listening there. Next up we had a bit of an issue with this, didn't we, liam? This is a re-record, isn't it?
Speaker 3:We tried to do our duty to Major Charles, didn't we? We'll consider ourselves part of his regiment and we let him down, joe-joe Stevenson.
Speaker 2:maniacs both of us aren't we?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it sent us the.
Speaker 3:What was it? The Millennium Dome Trouble at the Top.
Speaker 2:Yeah, millennium Dome episode. So we started watching it and then I realised, well, we started watching it. And then I realized, well, I started watching it, then I realized it was part four of four and we couldn't find part one, two or three. It was a documentary about how the millennium dome were fucked, so we didn't know if he wanted us to do that particular episode or all four, and we're worried. We didn't want to let him down, so we come to an agreement with him online. We're going to do another one of his suggestions in a couple of weeks, but as we were looking at that, we come across something that we are going to do and it's another trouble at the top, but it's the story of books, fizz well, yeah, books fizz v uh go on david van day.
Speaker 3:David van day. It's on. It's only 40 minutes long. It's on youtube. Trouble at the top books fizz v, david van day. If you want to listen to that before we do our episode, give it a go, it's worth it.
Speaker 2:It's good, isn't it? It's really good. Uploaded by Shitstain Knobknocker If you can't find it, but it's really worth a watch. Neither of us are Bucks Fizz fans or anything, but this is brilliant. I think it's the closest thing we've watched to that.
Speaker 3:Do you know?
Speaker 2:anyone who would say he's a Bucks Fizz fan. Well, the two people in the show, in fact, I don't even know if one of them is, but yeah.
Speaker 3:It's a strange statement to make. We are not Bucks Finn fans, bucks Finn. I can't even tell you Bucks.
Speaker 2:Fizz. Yeah, we do not condone books, fizz, but yeah, so that'll be next week. Well, it might be this week, we don't know yet, to be honest, but whenever you see it, because we're going to try and get a couple of Christmas episodes out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we've been a bit sloppy. I've taken a bit of time in the edits, a few bits going on. You should get that one fairly soon after this episode, all being well. Right, I'll see you then. Then Certainly will do. If anyone wants to get in touch with us, send us anything. Find us on Twitter at livingwithmade1, or you can send us an email at livingwithmadely at outlookcom.