Living With Madeley
"Living With Madeley" is a nostalgic TV based podcast that attempts to take a humorous look at some of the most weird, wonderful and woeful moments in UK television history.
Titled "Living With Madeley" as neither host can remember a week of their lives where Richard Madeley hasn't been on their screens, join Andrew and Liam as they take you on a journey to TV past.
Living With Madeley
Series 8 Bonus Episode 1 - 25 Years of Talksport
What happens when you mix a radio station's humble beginnings with a splash of sports, a dash of controversy, and a whole lot of humor? Join us on a journey through 25 years of TalkSport, where we revisit the early days with memorable personalities like Jeremy Beadle, Terry Christian, and the ever-charismatic Paul Ross. Reminisce about the station's playful twists and turns, from its initial forays into sports to its evolution as a powerhouse in sports broadcasting. Join in as we unearth personal stories, humorous anecdotes, and missed opportunities that highlight the station's unique journey and enduring charm.
From the late 1990s to the present, TalkSport has seen iconic broadcasters like Alan Brazil and Mike Parry redefine the airwaves with their infectious energy and humor. Relive Alan Brazil's unforgettable blunders, Mike Parry's entertaining segments, and Ray Parlor's viral moments, all of which contributed to the station's legendary status. Amidst the laughter, we also touch on some of the controversies and chaos that have emerged along the way, including heated debates and classic missteps that have become a staple of sports radio lore.
As we tune into TalkSport's dynamic landscape, we also dive into the passionate responses stirred by figures like Adrian Durham, and the vibrant banter that keeps listeners hooked. From Roland Duchatelet's tumultuous tenure at Charlton to Jim White and Mike Parry's infamous Twitter spat, we explore the station's ability to engage with audiences on a deeply emotional level. Through the ups and downs, we celebrate TalkSport's lasting impact on sports radio, showcasing why it remains a beloved institution for fans and broadcasters alike.
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Speaker 3:Hello and welcome to the podcast Living with Maydaly. I'm Leroy, one of the hosts, the other one is Andrewrew jim hagenson. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4:very good, very, very good 25 years of talk sport mate, who can believe it?
Speaker 3:25 years of golden radio at talk sport. I mean, we actually planned this before. We didn't plan 25 years of talk sport before knowing it was a 25 yearyear anniversary, but we planned a TalkSport episode and then I phoned you and said can we rush it out in time for last week, last Thursday, weren't it? It was the 25th anniversary, I think.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's right. I'm just looking at this now into my notes and this is something that I probably should have looked into. But oh no, I get it. I'm sorry, I thought I made a mistake. I'll explain. I'll explain more later I've made a mistake? No, no, no, I think, yeah. Yeah, I was just reading about when they started covering football, but that was when it was still talk radio, which we'll get into.
Speaker 3:Okay and yeah, to try and give it some sort of structure, because it's a huge subject, loads to go at. We're going to use as a sort of backbone for the episode the schedule sort of the time slots and who has featured and what we remember about each slot. So, yeah, yeah, you've done the vast majority of the research. I've probably listened to more talk sport than you do, you think.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think so. Yeah, you often follow me up and say you'll never guess what he said today, or you know, I don't know. I think you know a lot of catchphrases and stuff that people use, don't you, Such as Simon Jordan and Jim.
Speaker 3:White. So you're the brains of the outfit for this one, and I'm the heart of the outfit for this one, You're the heart.
Speaker 4:Yeah Well, I'll just do a little brief history of Talk Sport. The station was originally launched as Talk Radio in 1995 and included Jeremy Beadle, amongst others, obviously Terry Christian, Dale W and steve wright and paul ross. Paul ross is the only one who survives to this day. By the way, paul ross has stolen we'll come on to later you had a flawless run of the captain I don't think he's been on it.
Speaker 4:He must have always been involved in some. I always remember him being involved, paul ross, always like the late, late, late, one of the jonathan yeah, another jonathan ross brothers. I remember actually I were asked to go on talkSport when Sheffield. United were doing well and I got a message saying do you want to come on and talk about how well they're doing and stuff?
Speaker 3:Do you want to come on and talk about dyspraxia?
Speaker 4:I should have got it in. I could have got it on and mentioned it, but anyway I didn't do it because I got bothered really and our mate Travelling Blade got the gig. Second Phil, obviously you know best people I'd turned up, so they went with Travelling Blade. Little did I know it was with Paul Ross and if I'd have known it was Paul Ross I would have absolutely 100% gone on it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I like Paul Ross. How many of the Jonathan Ross brothers is there? Is it two or three?
Speaker 4:I don't know, I don't know, I only know one of them, but is it? Is it ali?
Speaker 3:ross or something like that, is it ali wrote. What does he do? Is he a presenter? Might have completely made him up, I don't know. Let me do you remember that?
Speaker 4:um, that you probably won't remember this, but you used to be able to buy a 20 inch canvas printer paul ross on amazon. I don't know if you remember this. I'm sure I must have sent it back in the day. Uh, and I always remember. I always remember the review saying something like if you're only going to buy one paul ross canvas this year, make it this one well, I love that.
Speaker 4:Yes, if you might buy a few, but if you are buying one there's another one that said something like I bought this and he sits in my living room majestically looking over me. Absolutely brilliant, I'm having a Paul Ross canvas.
Speaker 3:I would like that, I think in the right room. I think that could look great, just looking now. So Jonathan Ross Brothers, miles Ross, simon Ross and Paul Ross.
Speaker 4:Where did you say Ian Ross? No, who did you say? I said Ali Ross. Ali, Aye, I don't know if I did. You say Ian Ross. No, who did you say? I said Ali Ross. Ali, I, I'm not a firm rock.
Speaker 3:I think you're a Scottish guy. I don't know why his brother would be Scottish.
Speaker 4:Why would he be Scottish. Yeah, hey, I don't know the other two. I know Paul and I know Jonathan Ross is very protective of Paul Ross. Often people take you remember this on his show and stuff.
Speaker 3:He used to come up with that. Yeah, I know he doesn't like him being criticised. I do recall that yeah.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Anyway, talk sport. This is what I got confused about. His first foray into sports is when he broadcasted matches from the EGL, which I don't know what that exactly is. Really the EGL? Is that the EGL English Games League? Yeah, I don't know what the EGL is but I don't know what so Talk?
Speaker 3:Radio. Did it have some sport on? It didn't, until For a while it had none. Yeah, for a while it had none at all. And then, it went EGL. Yeah, I've just put EGL in and air fryers have come out but I don't think that's so far ahead of the time, weren't they?
Speaker 4:Yeah, they broke us live air frying. But the big thing came in. They covered France 98 and then they got the rights to man United's Champions League game the following season and in March 1999.
Speaker 3:Simply man United? Or were they the only English teams?
Speaker 4:No, yeah yeah, Just man United, Just man United Champions League games they got the rights to. And then in late 1999, it was announced that a relaunch of Talk Radio was going to take place and it was to become the first ever UK national commercial sports radio station. It was going to be renamed Talk Sport. Most of the old presenters were immediately moved. On the day talk radio died, a lot of presenters called it or a dark day in radio. They brought in broadcasters such as Alan Brazil, Geoffrey Boycott, Pete Shilton, Brian Moore and Mr Mike at Port Parry. Brilliant yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, we've got a full episode on Port Parry Pork, parry, porky Parry. Yeah, genius or maniac, I can't remember what series it is, but you can go and find it. So he's going to feature in this because anything he's involved with it lifts, doesn't it, to another level. I would say. But yeah, he, I'm going to play some clips from the two mics which we are going to mention, but rather than trying to scatter them through the conversation, I'm going to play some clips now and I've got back into these. I've been going back through. They're all on YouTube, the old I don't know if they're all there, but there's a lot of them to go at the old two mics episode. And yeah, let's start, and right at the end as well. When we finish, before the end credits, you'll hear another collection of Mike a pocky, a parrot.
Speaker 9:You're not a family. There's only one of you. Well, I am a eunuch. Anyway, listen, we need to talk about more important matters. I'm trying to tell you about the parrot that's going to be in a murder trial. There is such thing as electric jellyfish. There's an electric eel. Well, they must be from the same sort of genre.
Speaker 8:Anyway, I was going to say Do you know the Welsh?
Speaker 9:name is for Anglesey Er Aicla Caica. I put it in my mouth right and then I go no, sorry, my mouth goes round and round like a tumble dryer, yeah, and that means that I'm whooshing all areas of the inside of my. So you're doing that rather than brushing. Exactly Brilliant song. That's from my disco era.
Speaker 8:Brilliant song. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I don't call it brilliant Kung fu fighting.
Speaker 9:Yeah, who's your father? Do you remember his name? Yeah, well, I don't remember his name, but it or something like that.
Speaker 11:You know what I mean. No, it was Carl Douglas I was going to say Carl Douglas, yeah, I'm sorry it wasn't we are far.
Speaker 9:I see how about that I am a bit heartless.
Speaker 6:Well, I'm one thirdless heart one heart birdless, sorry one third of my heart works.
Speaker 9:Yeah, the other two thirds doesn't.
Speaker 4:So what we're going to do, as we said, is go through the schedule and I think we're going to start from 7 o'clock, which is when most people I think you know the breakfast show. That's when most people it was going to tune in, so that's when they'll tune in. I always remember it being Alan Brazil. I mean, obviously he was one of the first people to be on the radio show, but do you remember Alan Brazil being a? He used to be a co-commentator for the EFL, like a Don Goodman, and you've not written down EGL wrong as EFL have you.
Speaker 4:It might have been EFL. That makes a lot more sense, doesn't it? It probably were EFL, thinking about it. Yeah, I've got EG. Where did I get EGL from, anyway? But yeah, did you remember Alan Brazil, though being a co-commentator, because Chris Kamara used to be a co-commentator, because we watched a game? Again, I wrote an article recently about do I remember this right? Chef United? Do I remember these incidents right? I think, again, we remember this where we were watching a game and there were a goal scored I think it was David Healy or something for Leeds and Kamaru said he'll have that every day of the week. He'll have that with eggs, bacon and beans.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, remember that. Well, yeah, yeah, I remember Camaro. I didn't know Brazil had done any commentary. He seems a bit too haphazard to make that work to be honest.
Speaker 4:I'd listen back to a couple of them and he's just really normal. You would never guess he's the Alan Brazil of today, really.
Speaker 3:To be fair, he played for those that don't know and just know him as the morning breakfast host. He played at a top level, didn't he? He's played with Georgie Best. He played for man.
Speaker 4:United. Oh yeah, yeah, really good player he played for America played over there yeah. Scotland International with his big red hair yeah, a good-looking lad back in his day. Well, do you know what? I'm going to start with a Brazil clip, and it's the most recent clip. I don't know how many people know this. It's sort of gone viral. But this is alan brazil. This is not really alan brazil, but really this is ray parlor. Uh, peeking here, but this is ray parlor talking about world war ii.
Speaker 10:Winning the war was unbelievable wasn't it the party they must have had when they won the war? Blase, wasn't he?
Speaker 9:winston churchill. He went for things and we think, well, he loved a bit of it. Well, obviously, the cigars, and you know it could have gone either way, but it was unbelievable where they took chances and come out on top.
Speaker 3:Yeah, brilliant. This is, as you say, really recent actually. I've seen a few people talking about this. I love this thing that they do where they're so caught up in the moment. I mean it's ridiculous what they've just said, isn't it?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's so funny. It's just like I might imagine now. We would all be German, wouldn't we? No, what do you mean? We'd all be.
Speaker 3:German. I mean, that's like something people say when they're like nine or ten, isn't it? It's your childish sort of.
Speaker 10:And I think, by the way as well, you know when you started out with the initial people who were on there. Yeah.
Speaker 3:We should acknowledge, by the way, it's a proper sort of boys club, isn't it like? Yeah, yeah, I get why it's not for everyone. It's, it's a lot of, it's a lot of sort of guys of a certain age who've retired mainly from football. A lot of them have been sacked, like on multiple occasions, which we'll get to, but yeah, it's such a kind of old school feel to it.
Speaker 4:Well, it's not alan brazil, and he's only with ray paula, ali mccoy's mike carrey. He used to be with it sometimes and In fact I'm going to play another clip. This is Alan Brazil. This is a really famous clip, but you have to play it. I don't know if we played it on a previous episode before.
Speaker 3:I think we did, but it's worth another listen.
Speaker 4:This is Gary Bushnell talking about going to a Bob Moncast tribute and this is Alan Brazil's response.
Speaker 8:The Moncast was a giant.
Speaker 9:Yeah, sure, Can you tell me what about Bob's health now? He died at Christmas. I think Mr Brazil was just looking a little bit back there rather than forward. I heard two different versions of it to be honest. Two different versions I was told.
Speaker 3:I mean, this is absolute iconic talk sport, isn't it? This is talk sport at its best, A mumbled sort of error, and then like, just kind of try and I don't know, just kind of try and keep trudging your way through it rather than say, oh yeah, I was wrong there. I heard two things.
Speaker 4:I heard two different versions of it. I love my when mike parry's trying to get you out of the. Something's gone wrong on it yeah, exactly, yeah he's really really like trying to be professional, saying, well, I think what alan is, uh, you can see he's thinking his feet like what, what he's actually thinking of that? I heard two different versions. He's in the background. What you do you mean?
Speaker 3:What has he heard then? Gary Bushell as well. He's dead, he's dead, yeah, I mean. Gary. Bushell's a great name. We're going to go through and mention some. There's names within talk sport. I don't believe you would ever meet these people by their names Gary Bushell I know he's not famous for talk sport, but Gary, by their names, gary bushell I know he's not famous for talk sport, but gary bushell, certainly a good name.
Speaker 4:Gary bush was a great name, um, but just some controversy with all. In brazil, as you talked about, he was dismissed by talk sport after spending three days at the cheltenham festival, where he subsequently failed to show up to resent the sports breakfast show. He was reinstated less than three weeks later. This led to talk sport. This happens every year, seems. I mean, you'll know more than me about this, but he seems to go to Chatelaine Festival every year and just not turn up to his show.
Speaker 3:So it used to be a running joke, yeah, that like how many days are you going to miss this year, alan? And it'd be like, no, I'll be there for all five, don't worry. And at some point you knew he weren't going to turn up and it became such a thing that they kind of had things planned for it. I think you've got something to play. But yeah, just before we play the, the clip I loved once I listened to it and it was on the run-up for cheltenham and they were talking about, um, yeah, it's actually quite hard work, you know, it's a long day. We're there early, um, all the races. And alan brazil had said to whoever he was on with at the time I, I started doing a bit of training, you know. And whoever he was to start with said what's that like, you know, getting up earlier or staying awake later or whatever it was. And he said, oh, no, no, I started on the Guinness. He started training on the Guinness, ready for Cheltenham.
Speaker 4:Absolutely, craig. He's a legendary drinker. You've got a story about Warnock. In fact, aren't you talking about it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, again, that's probably one people who are big fans might have heard. But yeah, I think Warnock, I'm pretty sure, and I find this hilarious if I remember this right, but Warnock was sat with Laurence Delaglio and Alan Brazil. That's such a fantastic trio of people.
Speaker 4:So different in so many ways. Sorry, just on that. I want to see uh steve davis start story. He said they were me, paul mcshane, dennis taylor and gaza.
Speaker 3:What an unbelievable start to a story that is anyway, sorry. Yeah, so they're sat at a table and apparently, uh, whichever one of them went up and got the first drink and I think, like within within minutes, like five, six minutes, first drink had gone. So I think my understanding is so, warner went up to the bar and said and I apologize if I got this slightly wrong paraphrasing it, but he gave the guy behind the bar a 20 pound note and he said every time they come up and get around, I just want water in mine. I'll give you another 20 later, as long as you make sure that keeps happening.
Speaker 4:So yeah, that's how scared he was of a session with Alan Brazil and Laurence Delaglio, I mean with Mike Parry, obviously only like a third of his. Well no, he said a third of his heart doesn't work. Not a third of his heart works, a third of his heart works, all right. I actually heard someone say, someone said they were like. I said, look, when I was doing research for this I went on digital spy forum for people like just talking about talk sport and someone said, oh um, apparently he's only a third of his. Uh sorry, third of his heart does work and so that's come on, because a couple of weeks ago he said half of his heart didn't work because so somehow he's got like an extra quarter of his heart working.
Speaker 3:He's just, I think I've heard an episode where at some point he claimed 27% of his artworks.
Speaker 4:So precise, yeah, but on the Alan Brazil, not going to shout them, Sorry, going to shout them and not turn up for his shows. This led to this incredible and they're brilliant for the jingles, as we'll come on to later. Talks Bar.
Speaker 2:This is a jingle that they made about Alan Brazil and he doesn't show up. This is Ian Dancer in for Alan Brazile. He leaves his co-host, john, in while he's still down the post. Has anyone seen Alan Brazile? His face is rosy and his hair is like Brillo Skin is tougher than an armadillo. On the Talksport Breakfast Show.
Speaker 3:But make no mistake, I'm back Monday morning from six on Talksport Cheltenham's only two weeks away, I mean we said, didn't we like it's a huge shame, because they used to drink around Borough Market. So we kind of said, oh, it'd be brilliant to bump into Parry in Brazil. Well, I mean even Mike Graham, because he'd not sort of become Parler as well.
Speaker 4:He's'd not sort of become Parler as well, he's a drinker did Parler got emerald when the Queen died or something I remember that being quite famous where he sort of rose like did he have like a whisky? Or a gin and tonic or something.
Speaker 3:There's multiple videos he posts for himself having a beer at Parler. But yeah, I think his thing Paulo is. He used to drive to the pub, get drunk, get a taxi home and then run back there the next morning. He's in pretty good shape, paulo. Oh, he is in really good shape. Brazil, I think, just drinks and drinks until everybody else drops, I think that's the way he does.
Speaker 4:I tell you what he does well. He does well. A lot of people have been like man. People do death lists as well.
Speaker 3:Just on drinking as well, by the way. Just on Porky Parry yeah, you're right, he does end up on people's death lists. But one of the two mics I was listening to recently, mike Parry, said if anybody buys him a glass of wine and it's a small one it makes a point of really causing a fuss and stomping up to the bar and saying can you put, because I only drink large wines.
Speaker 4:That's absolutely ridiculous. Well, brazil got in trouble with Ofcom in 2006 for referring to Japanese people as the nips, and this is like the sort of show TalkSport is. The controversy. It's sort of calmed down a little bit now. You've got fairly more professional people in there. Simon Jordan's obviously a professional man, whatever you think of him, and you know Orksby and Jacobs pro broadcasters and Durham. But they've still got this element of just chaos and people like you say, sort of old not old men may well 50 to 60 year olds just in the pub.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's got that feel to it and to me. I really enjoy it. I get people who say to me I really enjoy it. I get people who say no, absolutely not for me. I think you're right. I think it's turned a bit of a corner now and I think it's modernized, and I don't just mean because there's female presenters, but I think they've made it much more professional. Obviously, laura woods had a stint on breakfast yeah, and stellings on there.
Speaker 4:Now we know jeff.
Speaker 3:Stellings telling yeah, shabana hearn does a good set now in the morning and she's on through the breakfast thing.
Speaker 4:You've got Andy Townsend. Andy Townsend seemed to disappear for ages.
Speaker 3:He comes and goes all the time. Yeah, he absolutely knows his stuff, townsend. He's very good, actually he is. I once heard he was one of the richest men in football because he bought loads of property when he was a player.
Speaker 4:I remember Andy Townsend's tactics truck where he used to take people in. He once took Hugo Ekiog in after he'd lost 4-0. He was like come into my tactics truck and they got hammered and he got sent off and he was just basically showing him how bad he'd been. Yeah, he was like look at you here, you're way too far away from him and he's going. Yeah, you're right you can't be running in there fair play.
Speaker 4:I absolutely love Townsend. When McCoy and Town townsend are on together, that is that is genuinely fantastic entertainment. Well, we'll move on to 10 till 1 now. I remember 10 till 1 and I used to listen to this every single day that I could and it was colin murray, colin murray and friends and that were absolutely fantastic. I used to listen to every morning. I had, like bob mills, perry gross, steve bunce who used to be in there, and that was a genuinely one of the best sports shows that I'd ever heard.
Speaker 3:So I used to go and listen to some of that. By the way, the morning one I've kind of had a couple of stints out, but I had a good run of a few years in the morning show, driving to work from about 20 to 8 to half eight. It used to take me about 45 50 minutes and then when I got there, unless it was calls or meetings, I used to try and catch the rest of it. But yeah, the only time really until more recently which we'll touch on, but I used to love colin murray was it was my break time from sort of half 10 and I used to go and sit and listen in the car to, uh, bob mills steve buns.
Speaker 4:Yeah, perry grows really really good, really genuinely fantastic really good, genuinely fantastic, brilliant and obviously Colin Murray left, as you mentioned, in the last episode, when he's an ultimate pro, isn't he Colin Murray? I love Colin Murray, he's my favourite broadcaster and he left when, I think, basically when the sun or the people who own the sun.
Speaker 3:Yeah, fair play to him. He said I've got to stand by my principles. I can't sort of criticise the Sun as I think he's a Liverpool fan, is he? Yeah, yeah, he is a Liverpool fan as adamantly as he does. And he said I can't work for a firm effectively owned by the Sun.
Speaker 4:So what they obviously did talk about, and the wisdom to replace Colin Murray. If we play it safe, we'll get Keyes and Gray in. So they got Keyes and Gray in. This was a. I want to play another jingle here. This is a jingle of Keyes and Gray at Christmas. I think it was the first Christmas that they were there.
Speaker 2:Richard Keyes and Eddie Gray Weekday mornings from 10. On TalkSport.
Speaker 1:Ho, ho ho. When your gaffer's got to go and your season's up in smoke, and when FIFA's in a state of disarray blatant injustice when the striker that you've just signed.
Speaker 1:Well, he couldn't hit a cos behind there's no need to despair with these two blokes on the air from 10 each day. Well, I wish it could be keys and Andy Gray. It's an absolute Christmas cracker who live across the nation in their festive football sleigh. Ho, ho, ho. Well, I wish it could be Keys and Andy Gray, with all the biggest names on Talk Sport.
Speaker 2:Richard Keyes and Ernie Gray weekday mornings from 10 on Talk Sport.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely great at this sort of thing. By the way, I know it's not news to me now, live, but this was news to me when we talked about it a couple of days ago. I don't remember Keyes and Gray having this slot. I think my work patterns had shifted around and I never listened to Keys and Gray.
Speaker 4:I don't know how well you know I didn't like it because I was that pissed off that Colin Murray had gone, I think. But I never liked Keys and Gray anyway. This was just straight off the back of the. It was just banter sexism row. This was straight off the back of it. I mean that it's not funny, but it is that that clip of richard keys laying back in his chair with his feet on the table, would you smash it?
Speaker 3:of course you'd smash it like it's just I don't know anyone who talks like that no, and that it looks like the sort of guy who got I don't know who's like getting bullied.
Speaker 4:He was trying to fit in with the big boys.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean mean, I'll try and act cool here, do you know?
Speaker 4:what I mean, because everyone's just looking awkward.
Speaker 3:It's a bit like that, do you know, when Partridge is sat around that beer gun and he goes, ooh, sex. It's a bit like that, I'd like to kiss her. She was certainly first in the queue, and God handed out chests. Yeah, fantastic, but yeah, I mean. Well again, though, talk sport kind of not afraid to this guy has sacked him for sexism talk sport straight away will.
Speaker 4:About a month after. It was about a month after um, and I always I did listen to the first show because obviously we're a massive story richard keys and gregor inside me.
Speaker 3:But no, I knew they got sacked. I didn't know they're going, yeah, I just assumed they went straight to the al jazeera or whatever it is they do now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they were a massive sort of thing and I remember listening to the first show to see what they said and Keyes, classic Keyes he used to say, and for everyone who was writing in, thank you. As if everyone was just giving him support Because obviously he's brilliant Keyes. If you want to know more about Keyes, I advise you to listen to Football Clichés, who do Keezer and Grey Corner every single week, but you could easily do an episode on Keezer.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, and I know that they pick out far better clips, but yeah, there's certain times where he just repeats a name endlessly. That I find really, really funny.
Speaker 4:Andy, Andy, he is awful. You like to say Declan Nice a lot, don't you? What would I want?
Speaker 3:to. He had the famous one that we talked about previously. This is it wasn't, but it's something like Newcastle. Yeah, it was, oh, fulham Newcastle.
Speaker 4:Fulham. We went on to beat Fulham he goes, it's. Fulham, andy, it's Fulham. They have beaten Fulham and Andy Gray's going. Yeah, but you know it's a great result and he just hit back and went it's Fulham, fulham.
Speaker 3:How long did they have that stint for then? How long did they do A couple of?
Speaker 4:years, a couple of years, I didn't realise it was that long. And then that's when Jim White came in and I don't know. I thought for colin moribund, just reading like and I've read a couple of different sources of this, seems it went more like two different versions two different versions went murray, keys and gray, and then jim white. But it was jim white on his own, and I remember listening to this, thinking one of the most boring shows that I'd ever heard, because he was just known as the sky newsman.
Speaker 3:Weren't the transfer deadline man and he had nothing really, he would just sort of well, and even on that, that sort of transfer show that he did, it's very much just filling time when it which he did feel a bit like on his own.
Speaker 3:Like, uh, a lot of time checks and, uh, now, coming an hour to midnight, no news from Wickham. However, like it just felt like, yeah, you've got to keep talking and yeah, I really liked him, why, and, and the relationship that he has. That, I presume, is what you're going to talk about yeah, I think it all changed fantastic.
Speaker 4:But on his own.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I get that. I can imagine that being a little bit dull, but anyone on their own? Oh, by the way, there's a Mike Porcupari episode called the one Mike, where Michael Gray, mike Graham, goes on holiday and he does it on his own. He's not as good without anyone to argue with. Well, he won't be, will he?
Speaker 4:He probably would argue with himself.
Speaker 3:He probably would argue with himself yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean this is interesting actually, because obviously they brought Simon Jordan in and that sort of changed the show completely, because he's an argumentative character himself, isn't he?
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, we've mentioned it before, but I love the tagline. Like they don't even hide it is TalkSport engineered for confrontation. Yeah, he is just an absolute. I mean, I think he's brilliant. I actually think he's. He's one of the best sort of talkers of sport. I think he's still got the TalkSport bit where he will change his stance after six months and just denied it. He ever had a different opinion. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. No well, it must have the courage of his convictions.
Speaker 4:If he's not saying that he's got loads of different little things, it says it's definitely come out on his own since Simon Jordan's come in, because he now he's obviously got, he's almost captured. Let him speak, simon. Let him speak when he Simon Jordan's arguing with someone. But I want to play a clip here from Jim White. This is all from the same episode where Jim White is talking about the then Charlton chairman who I don't know. Can you remember his name? I don't know if Jim's got his name or something, Ah yeah.
Speaker 11:Jim might know it. We're talking about the owner, roland Dushataly Dushataly. We'll attempt to get word to Dushataly Dushataly. We'll attempt to get word to Dushataly. This man, roland Dushataly, not happy with this man. Roland Dushataly Very unhappy with Roland Dushataly. They want Dushataly out. Dushataly Dushataly, Roland Dushataly, directly responsible. Dushataly Dushataly himself. Dushataly is clueless. He's an absent owner. Dushatli Dushatli himself. Are you confident that Dushatli does know what he's doing?
Speaker 3:What's the?
Speaker 8:fadeback like Dushatli.
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Speaker 11:Do Shatley and I are out. Do Shatley would do himself a big favor. Does this man Do Shatley? Does he ever Roland? Do Shatley, this man, do Shatley, do Shatley, do Shatley, do Shatley's not for selling To get. Do Shatley Do Shatelet Duchatelet? So now, because Duchatelet, we intend to cause Duchatelet maximum embarrassment. Duchatelet hasn't become a multimillionaire for nothing. Duchatelet will not sell Mr Duchatelet in Belgium and we'll see if Duchatelet himself, roland Duchatelet, mr Duchatelet. They are trying to get in front of Duchatelet. I attempted to get in touch with Roland Duchatelet. This is Duchatelet just a couple of minutes ago to me here in London, duchatelet says this I'm in Paris currently regards Roland. So I said Roland Duchatelet, duchatelet, mr Duchatelet, duchatelet from Belgium, mr Duchatelet, dropped in it by Duchatelet. We've heard from Duchatelet Duchatelet, if Duchatelet doesn't come here, this is brilliant.
Speaker 3:I've been saying this to myself, roland.
Speaker 4:De Chantel.
Speaker 3:The bit that made me laugh, though, is that you told me, like there's a huge emphasis on every time he says it, he goes Roland, Roland. He only does it once, or?
Speaker 4:twice Roland Roland, but he does this a lot. He's got a lot of contacts, obviously, Jim. Why he? Obviously, as a Sheffield United fan, he was the only person who really got an interview with Prince Abdullah. I don't know how he managed that, I don't know. He was always on there, weren't he?
Speaker 3:That's the point actually yeah, he used to phone in didn't he?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he knows all the fairly lower league chairmen and stuff, and I don't know if we should really, but we're going to mention it is the war on Twitter that Jim White had with. Well, mike Parry just completely insulted him, didn't he?
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, it was just an all-out attack, an absolute brazen attack from Parry, who clearly had got bladderated without moderation in one Sunday afternoon and just started calling him an alcoholic.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so he's on Twitter and Jim White said something along. I can't even remember how he started, but it was. Mike Parry said something it probably Everton related, I'm guessing. Yeah, he said something yeah, he said something out of order. And Jim White just put something like oh come on, mike, that's uncalled for. And he said something like you know, if I want to listen, drink problems whoa. And then everyone would go at him, didn't they think? Joey barton weighed in and said leave, put the drink down, or something.
Speaker 4:And he said look, if I want advice off you about how to put a cigarette out in someone's eye, everyone he just went after everyone and then he was quietly removed from talk sport for the couple of weeks and he did come back, but he did get let go not too far long after that. It makes you think about, about what the Talk Sport Christmas parties must be like, oh yeah crazy, absolute madness.
Speaker 3:And I mean the thing with that as well is that you know this is not someone who, like probably most of Talk Sport, likes a drink. Jim White has had problems with alcohol. I don't know if at that point in time I think he'd stopped. I know he's been clean for so many years. But yeah, this was just a personal attack on a kind of addiction problem. And as much as I love Parry, he's a complete madman at times like this, isn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 4:yeah, and to be fair, I don't think Jim White responded at all and Parry did apologise the day after Many a time Mike Parry gets. Parry did apologise the day after Many a time Mike Parry gets. He hadn't done it for a while, I don't think. But he'll go to an Everton game, get absolutely hammered and then just start a beautiful. He had to go with Danny Chip, what's his name?
Speaker 3:Cipriani I love that Cipriani because he goes Listen here.
Speaker 4:Cipriani yeah, he always says Listen here Cipriani and brilliant.
Speaker 3:I do genuinely think as well. And again, talksport, I can imagine, is very divisive as someone who likes it, though I really like it, and I think Simon Jordan is actually one of the and I've sort of said it but he really does deserve a huge amount of credit because the sort of clips, the amount of clips and views he generates a day on YouTube. I think TalkSport have shrewd to latch onto this sort of YouTube, social media, twitter and you know whether you were going to come on someone else later. I think was was very just gave opinions to cause arguments and that's fine and I think it worked.
Speaker 3:I think Simon Jordan is not quite that. I think he's a. He's a man who really knows his stuff, who can be challenged and he will hold his argument and, generally speaking, I accept when he's wrong. So, yeah, the direction talks, but have gone. I think he's been a kind of key part of that sort of actually let's become credible, let's give tangible opinions. I love some of the nonsense they talk. I love some of the stuff we're going to touch on later, particularly in the evening, how funny it is, but Simon Jordan makes that show absolutely credible, I think.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I think he's the one. He's a very serious man, he's a very serious opinion. Really. I know he has a bit of a laugh and a joke and stuff, but and he often gets quoted like Simon Jordan. I often see it on Google Simon Jordan says blah, blah, blah about you know what? I mean, he's always like. He's like the arguably the biggest hitter on Talks Ball, I'd say at the moment.
Speaker 3:Well, it's that slightly different stance. You've got a lot of ex-footballers and what he does very cleverly, simon Jordan is. He'll sort of say to Keown or Danny Murphy or whoever it is well, listen, I think I know a little bit more than you about this because obviously Crystal Palace owner and chairman Was he chairman?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah yeah, owner and chairman. Did he go into admin or something? I can't remember. I don't want to say the wrong thing about Zuma. You did not square the third because you did not have the coverage of your own convictions.
Speaker 3:It was, yeah, I mean global banking crisis, market crashes, I think he kind of he took a hit at a bad time.
Speaker 4:I probably should have gone after him about his. Yeah Well, you went bankrupt.
Speaker 3:Listen, jordan, well you have Eddie Hearn on sometimes and they build it up as these big clashes yeah yeah, eddie. Hearn often refers to him as a disc jockey, because he knows it winds him up. I mean, they don't play any music, which I don't know why. Simon Jordan would just say how can you have a disc jockey who's never played a disc?
Speaker 4:Yeah, he should say that. I can imagine him saying that, to be fair. Then you go to one till four, and I don't remember anyone other than these two being in this seat, other than when the people who filled in when they'd been away, like two of my exes, used to do it, but Orksby and Jacobs seem to have been on it for about 25 years.
Speaker 3:Well, funnily enough, this morning I was listening to, it was McCoyst and was it Jess Stellan this morning, I think it was and Shabana Hearn was on and they were talking about something to do with I don't know if it was Rashford, but they about napping. And McCoy said oh no, trust me, Winston Churchill liked to nap In Brazil actually I think it was Brazil, he's normally a Thursday and he said no, no, no, he doesn't like to nap. And they got on to talking about Churchill and what he liked to do, like have a nap in the afternoon, and I think McCoy said yeah, he used to listen to Talk Sport. I think he used to listen to Hawksby and Jacobs. He's been there since like 1930.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you're right, I mean, I really like these two. They used to write for Harry Hill, ariel TV Bird. They used to write for Fantasy Football as a partnership. They were writers. Yeah, they are writers.
Speaker 3:I thought Hawksby had done some of that. I didn't know Andy Jacobs had done that as well, yeah, but obviously talented guys.
Speaker 4:I find it hard to listen to this show simply because I don't think hawksby's too loud. I think jacobs is too quiet, so, yeah, hawksby will say welcome to talk sport. Andy, not a great result for chelsea. I had to turn it up, and then he's so loud.
Speaker 3:Compared to him, I genuinely find it difficult, yeah I know exactly what you mean and I listened to a little bit. I used to turn it up and then he's so loud compared to him I genuinely find it difficult. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I listened to it a little bit. I used to put it on again in the car when I went for my dinner break when I was steel fixing. But yeah, it's never really grabbed me to show I feel a bit for them because they don't do anything wrong when they've been there for years, so people must love it. It's just never one that's really grabbed me.
Speaker 4:I think they're probably the most professional duo in the entire yeah, maybe so, and they get some good guests on, and.
Speaker 3:But again, yeah, it's all just a bit too normal radio really, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, which is not you know you? Just, I suppose, if you're switching talk sport on, you want a bit of. You need a bit of the madness, don't you? Yeah, yeah, what's the point of it existing if you're just going to have? You know, you could have a normal debate on Radio 5 with Mark Chapman and you know Stephen Warnock, whoever he gets on. You know that's a normal debate. You're going to have Savage and Sutton have a bit of banter on Radio 5, but it's not mad, is it?
Speaker 3:No, and it's not people really losing it with each other and Simon Jordan's saying but that makes no sense, martin. That makes no sense, martin. Mark, I'm going listen, let me have my speak. Let him speak, simon. Let him speak Simon. Let him speak Simon. Let him speak. Craig, it's madness. There's times when I listen to talk sport maybe this is what it is and I find it really cringy like it's like almost like the office type humor where I'm almost like, oh my god, I can't believe he said that yeah, yeah jacobs is just, it's just a very safe, and for me it's a little bit too safe yeah, fair enough, I don't think it really fits into the station myself.
Speaker 4:Four to seven this is where I first got into talk sport. This is is the first when I first started listening to it. I can't remember how I did, but it was Adrian Durham and Ian Wright and I can't remember. I remember like laughing my head off at Durham. I'm talking back to about 2007 here. Sheffield United were in the Premier League when we went down. It might have been all the West Ham stuff, actually all the Tevez stuff. That reminds me, by the way. Once at Glastonbury we had Talk Sport on in the tent before we were getting ready to go out or whatever, and they were reviewing the World Cup roll at that point and it goes coming up tomorrow Uruguay versus Chile. They went, tevez, don't play for any of them. Me and Tommy. We were laughing our heads off Tevez.
Speaker 4:But anyway. Yeah, they might have been around the Tevis scandal. I started listening to them for whatever reason.
Speaker 3:I'm guessing it must be later than that, was it? Because I mean, I don't know if you've got any dates to hand, but I didn't know of the. I wish I'd listened to that, but I came to it with Goffey and Durham, but I'm guessing that must have been. I'm guessing that must have been about 2013, something like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I think I was listening about 2007 to Durham and Wright. Durham and Wright did seven years. It might not have been that long, but Ian Wright was definitely the co-host when I first started listening it used to be me. Mickey Quinn stood in, I think quite a bit. I think he did the same for golf. Mickey Quinn stands in for everyone, doesn't he, in fact?
Speaker 3:They like that. Who can pop up on any show? I mean danny murphy. He gets a regular slot with uh white and jordan but yeah, he can pop up on any show he's uh happy to to jump in where charlie baker.
Speaker 4:He's often filling in. It's always like rushton and baker or hawksby and baker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he does a lot of the uh, hawksby ones. Now one till four, yeah yeah again.
Speaker 4:He's pretty good, pretty safe, not not my yeah yeah, but dur, I'd never really heard, I don't think, anyone like this at that point. Adrian Durham, so he used to have the daily Arsenal where he'd say, obviously Wenger's still managing. He'd say, well, arsene Wenger now has got to be the worst manager in the Premier League. And Ian Ragnar, come on age. You can't say that he is, he is, and he used to just say things that I now know he clearly don't believe, but at the time I sort of believed his persona.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you see where he's got to now and we're going to talk about him a bit later on, but now he does the round the grounds. But again, I only came to it a little bit later, but exactly the same as what you're saying daily. Arsenal was still going and he quite often just attacked ridiculous things. He'd sort of say well, the amount of time it took Arsenal to leave the pitch after the game yesterday was absolutely pathetic.
Speaker 3:It just sums up how lazy they are If they can't be bothered to get off the pitch after, like they just want some attack on some random thing. But what was obviously really clever about that is that then you'd get. Well, we've got an Arsenal phone on.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the best thing about that and I'll play a clip from this is when he said Jamie Carragher, jamie Carragher, still playing for England. At the time, jamie Carragher had actually backed out of the England squad and I think it was under Steve McLaren, carragher. I understand what Carragher had said is I going to all these places abroad and stuff like that? I'm not getting a minute. I'm like fifth choice center are, because this is when we had like campbell and rio and terry.
Speaker 3:I've heard him say about this after as well. He knew it was really painful because he just knew he wasn't going to play so he said what's the point?
Speaker 4:you know, I'm just wasting energy for liverpool. So obviously, durham being durham said he's a coward, like on his show again, jim carragher, absolute coward. He's let his country down. He should be apologising to everyone. He should be apologising to people in the army for letting his country down and all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 9:And Carragher phones up and I'll play a little bit of it here we'll find out because Jamie Carragher has called up Jamie's with us on Talk Sport. How are you doing?
Speaker 6:Yeah, I'm alright, mate. Just phoned up on my way to training. Listening to your this afternoon about being a bit of a bottler, it would be interesting to see if you've got any bottling coming down to Anfield or Melbourne. Say it to me and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4:I'd say it to your face and I'll say it to now I want to know why you're even Come down
Speaker 6:to Anfield on a Champions League game or whatever, and we'll see them, won't we? Yeah, we will. You can say whatever you can say. These other players are better. Problem with McLaren's opinion.
Speaker 3:If he plays someone else, not a problem with him at all, but don't ever call me a bottler on radio in front of thousands of people listening to you. Yeah, another iconic clip. I think they're actually mates now. I think, yeah, yeah yeah, well, he probably said look come on, jamie, I just say these things for banter, I didn't expect you to what he used to do, and he used to do what we all want to do.
Speaker 4:He started mostly Arsenal, but then he would say something like and I think I remember when Sheffield United got promoted under Chris Wilders, for example, the first time and we finished 9th that season. And he goes right we're not talking about Sheffield United today, this is from pre-season, because they're not taking the Premier League seriously. They and up going well. I don't think you understand what's going to happen. And we've got some great players. No, no, no, you're not taking it seriously. You're going to stink the Premier League out. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 3:But it was genuinely entertaining. Well and yeah, if you listen to it a lot, you kind of knew at some point your team or a player you liked was going to get it, but you kind of just had to anticipate that. But I think, yeah, where sort of upsetting people is people who don't listen to the show were just being played clips of him slagging off Sheffield United, and it was like.
Speaker 4:I remember people going. He's an idiot like our fans and I'm thinking it doesn't be every team it's nothing.
Speaker 3:I remember my dad used to listen to it when he was washing up and sort of doing stuff in the kitchen and I used to talk to him about it, sort of say, oh, did you hear him having a go at Sheffield United? I'd say yeah, but you know it'll be next club's turn tomorrow and he'll be trying to get Wolves fans to find out. He'd say, oh, yeah, yeah, I probably don't even believe what he said.
Speaker 4:I remember once there were a really minor incident happening at West Ham Upton Park. Can't remember exactly what it was, someone maybe I can't remember what it was. I say it was minor. It might have been, I don't know chanting at spurs fans you know what they sing and stuff like that. So everyone's saying all this obviously needs to be condemned and all this blah blah. And he just right now I think the ground needs to be shut down for a year. I remember him saying a full year. We need to shut that ground down. No one's allowed in it should be playing behind closed doors. It was just like, just so like over the top. What you love about this as well. I remember and I'm going to play the uh, the clip before um, they used to do this, was the heads gone, yeah, segment heads gone, heads gone, heads gone, heads gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I used to love that, used to regularly when I was driving home used to love that I used to go on regularly when I was driving home. It used to make me laugh Brilliant.
Speaker 4:I think Durham left, and what did Goldstein do? He immediately took over from him. I don't really remember a gap between Durham and.
Speaker 3:Goldstein.
Speaker 4:So Goffey left.
Speaker 3:First. He was offered after the Yorkshire cricket scandal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah he was going there as a director and he said I couldn't do that. At the same time it wouldn't be professional. And, by the way, shout out to Goffey, because obviously you kind of assume, generally speaking, they have people on who know about their sport. But Goffey was brilliant all around and he was boxing, he was football, he was cricket, he was snooker dart. He did used to say some daft things. I do like.
Speaker 4:Goffey a lot, but he got into. He was a bit more. I think I remember Ian Wright were a bit more arguing against Durham like, oh, come on, Aide, you can't say that, whereas I don't know Durham would be saying Wembley is an absolute disgrace, it needs closing down. Well, I, I can't do it. Why can't I do a yorkshire accent from yorkshire? Well, I reckon they might be right there, you know. You know, I mean I, I don't like it down there generally sort of humoring, but there were times when you could tell, I think, the difference.
Speaker 3:And again I didn't hear him right. But when he did manage to wind goffy up, you could tell like were proper angry with him, like yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's quite happily. Just moving on to the next thing, like Goffy would be like no, you can't say that, hey, that's stupid. It's ridiculous. Anyway, coming up next, let's talk about how I don't know. Let's talk about how Hartlepool probably should go out of existence and it should happen right now. This is Talks4.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this is Talks4. Welcome. The adverts are funny as well.
Speaker 3:Why still play it? How many times you've heard the selco advert? Yeah, well now, if sometimes watch it on youtube now. Um well, they've now got like a moving logo in the background, which is the selco logo, just going round and round constantly get so like involved with talks, but I don't know do you ever use selco?
Speaker 4:I don't even know where there is a selco. I don't know where there's a selco is where the trade go. When I go on holiday with my dad and my last talk spot sometimes like, if you know, just in background, whatever we're doing, having some dinner or whatever, he's always furious how it's always about London. What about West End? What about West End? They're all cockneys, it seems.
Speaker 3:They're not, but like right. What about tottenham, tottenham. And if you listen to every show, and I hold on because, you're making it sound like your dad's a cockney and he's fuming.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, I'm doing. He's fuming because it's all about london, but he's doing impression of them.
Speaker 4:Always talk about yeah he's doing impression of them, like what about west end? What about tottenham? What about this? But when I've been listed quite a bit recently going back and forth from one being in hospital and stuff we've had that in the car when I've been with my dad, what it's. So it's mad how every single I'll go, I don't know. We'll go south to hospital at 10 am and it'll be simon jordan. Talk about well, about mochish rashford. He needs to go, he needs to sort himself out, he needs, he needs to move abroad. We go to hospital, come out, and then it'd be osb and jacobs talking about exactly the same thing, and then I put it on at seven o'clock or whatever, and it'd be the same with Rashford all day, or whatever the story is, and every single person just giving the view on this fairly minor story.
Speaker 3:Yeah and as much as I love Talk Sport, I've become a bit of a victim of this myself. I'm listening to the same people say the same things all day, and even like on the boxing stuff, stuff, when you're coming up to a weekend. I kind of need to get out of this habit of I'm watching all these different sort of social media boxing channels and they all interview ben shalom, eddie hearn, uh, you know all the sort of big names johnny nelson turns up, frank warren, and, and they just have the same interview like five times. And I watch them all and they're saying the same thing every time. And yeah, you're absolutely right, talksport unless Alex Crook has his hourly pop-up with any genuine breaking news, it's the same show, just with different people presenting it effectively.
Speaker 4:And that's probably why I?
Speaker 3:like the Simon Jordan one so much because I do think their show you could listen to that and any other one and I think there's enough unique stuff in their show. Even though they're repeating some of the Breakfast show or some of what you'll hear later on Drive, it still works. I think if you just did Breakfast and Drive, they are quite similar.
Speaker 4:I mean we'll come on to the weekend show, but I was listening to a bit on Sunday on the way to my nan's and they were on about Rushton and Glenn Denning. They were on about if Spurs lose today, angie's out, angie's definitely going to get fired. Didn't think of anything of it. Then I put it on again about nine o'clock and they were like he's definitely going to get fired. Now do you know whoever it was? We were on Majestic and Alan Pardew. We were like we'll be like, oh, he's definitely going to get two great names you've just thrown in there without even thinking about it.
Speaker 3:In this mad channel we've got Majestic and Barry Glendening. I love those. The names are brilliant we'll get to them.
Speaker 4:So Durham I think Goldstein and Bent sort of took over. I don't really listen to it anymore. I have to admit it's pretty good.
Speaker 3:I mean, the one thing I'd say is because United, so I kind of follow man United as well. I watch a lot of their games. I know you're not allowed to do that, but I sort of do. And if you don't mind, man United Goldstein is fine, but I can imagine if you're a Liverpool or a City or an Arsenal or a Chelsea or any other fan, really he's so biased about man United. Keown really annoys me, because you can't have a sensible debate about Arsenal and Andy Goldstein's a bit like that with man United, I think.
Speaker 4:So 7-10,. I remember Mark Saggers and we have to play the most famous clip that we've already played, probably a couple of times on this podcast, but we're going to play it again. This is Mark Saggers when Frank Lampard hit the bar against Germany and he went over the line, but the referee didn't give it. This is commentary from TalkSport.
Speaker 7:Yes, it's a goal, it's a goal. It's a goal, it's a goal. It's a goal. It's a goal, it's a goal, it's a goal, it's a goal. Boo Boo, boo, it's a goal, it's a goal, it's a goal there'll never be a time when that's not worth listening to.
Speaker 3:It's so good. It's the best bit of commentary, probably. I know we did our favorite commentary, this bit where he's like exasperated it's gold, it's a goal, it's gold it's gold, it's so good the change between it's a goal, it's a goal, it's goal I love that bit oh miles over the line so so good.
Speaker 4:It's genuinely the best piece of commentary ever. But I used this is where, at a time where I used to I was always a five live mom. If there were ever like a big game or whatever, let's put 606 on or whatever on the talk sport at the radio five phone and after a big game in england, I remember when england went out in the in the dark days, like roy hudson and McLaren always went to talk sport because she got them all. What is he doing? And this is a fantastic example of this. I'm not going to play the whole round, but this is a clip of Mark Saggers talking about when England lost to Iceland in the European Championships.
Speaker 8:Roy Hodgson, we've had enough of you. We've had all the talk, We've had all the chat. We've had enough of you. We've had all the talk, we've had all the chat, we've had all the promises, we've had all the excuses and it's never, ever, ever changed. You, ray Wilk Lewington, gary Neville, pack your bags. Wayne Rooney, we've had enough of you too. You've never delivered on the highest, the most important stage. Some of these other youngsters will have to come again. But my word, how far short did england fall? And you know what? The whole of this tournament will be quite happy that england's going home, because our reputation on and off the field is as low as it gets right now. The players might have sunk to their knees, the likes of sturridge, probably crying his eyes out. You want to feel like we do, watching you playing for england week in, week, out their knees, the likes of Sturridge, probably crying his eyes out. You want to feel like we do, watching you playing for England week in week out.
Speaker 3:I don't remember that at the time he's so good, he's like. Wayne.
Speaker 4:Rooney, we've had enough of you. You can pack your bags as well. This is why I used to when England get knocked out of things, even when they lost the final and we'll come on to Cundi and O'Hara in a bit. They're so over the top, but they sort of I'm not going to lie they reflect how I feel at that particular moment. When I look back at it, it's mad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they capture the sentiment much more like it annoys you when you're trying to watch people be calm and say well, you know, they've just got to dust themselves down. It's like no, it's not good, good enough on If the day after I do BlazePod.
Speaker 4:If people don't listen to the Sheffield Night podcast, we do it the day after. If we did BlazePod on the night, I'd be much more like Mark Saggers. You can pack your bags as well, wilder, we've had enough for you. Yeah, because that's what you like when you're emotional, and I think TalkSport are fantastic at the aftermatch, just getting the emotion of when England go out.
Speaker 3:It does feel very much like a fan channel, but kind of of everything and nothing all at once, so they're happy to praise anything and slag anything off. It does feel very much like genuine sports fans, not sort of journalists who've come into a sports world. They feel like they genuinely care and maybe sometimes they're mocking people or sometimes they're really proud of people. But yeah, there's a lot of emotion on Talk Sport.
Speaker 4:I'd say Another one. By the way, I got asked to go on Mark Sackers when he went. He's on Talk Radio now. I don't remember having his own show. Sackers, what did he do? He used to do the. I'm pretty sure he used to do Game Day. So Adrian Duran does it now.
Speaker 4:So 7-10 round the grounds now, don't know yeah, so like that we're recording now at 7 45 it's the championship and champions league, I think, going on, and I think it's durham live. Now we'll be going, and now there's been a goal up at anfield yeah, yeah you know, let's go down to hillsborough see what's happened there with our man alan biggs, or whatever. Do you know?
Speaker 3:what I mean. And, by the way, it just proves now that how sort of relaxed and he's never slagging anyone off. Imagine him doing it. Now it's bloody Bournemouth again. They've conceded again.
Speaker 4:He's so different to that now he's like a different presenter Durham. This is why it's all an act and this is why a lot of them are all acts. I'm not sure about Mike Parra to be honest.
Speaker 4:There are a few people on this channel as we'll get to, and we've already talked about some. It is an act and they do hamper it up, and Adrian Durham's a fantastic example of that, because now he's a genuinely good roving. We went to, we went to Paul McCartney a couple of months ago, Our mate Jade drove us down and we had to talk sport on rather than Radio 5, because it was better, and that's an incredible thing to say. Radio 5 is seen as the more professional one and I do prefer the commentaries, but it was Durham going round the grounds and they're going to have to lead two in all sorts. Yeah, I mean even.
Speaker 3:Rather than watching Sky Sports News now, I tend to just put Talk Sport on.
Speaker 4:That tends to be my go-to now on a Saturday afternoon, but normally they'll have games at 7 till ten and then it used to be ten till one. Call collymore. Can you remember call you a massive collymore on this? You're like one of the probably the biggest presenter on it. Yeah, I, I don't.
Speaker 3:I can't honestly sort of say I listen. Remember listening to a lot of episodes of it, but I was certainly aware of it and yeah, I know a lot of people used to talk about it next day, like I did just to Collymore last night yeah, this is a controversial clip but I'm going to play it because it's definitely not going to be played on the Talk Sport 25 years celebration.
Speaker 4:This is a Chelsea fan talking to Stan Collymore on his phoning show where do you stand on this?
Speaker 10:should he what Ashley Cole's got? Yeah, at least a role in one year deal.
Speaker 6:He'd be so happy with that, the performances he's putting in. He scores 20 goals a season, every season. And did you see the penalty today? He hit that like you hit Ulrika and I just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 10:Thank you very much for your calls, yeah.
Speaker 3:The problem is, though, isn't it, that they're all kind of there to be shut down? I mean, it's not criticism? Well, it is criticism. We're certainly not condoning their actions, but it's things like Dean Saunders. He used to be on fairly regular, and then he got done for drink driving and he's fine. But then they just leave it a bit and they just bring him back in.
Speaker 4:It's weird with Colin Moore because I remember, like I say, listening way back when I thought he was almost their star man, if you know what I mean, collymore.
Speaker 3:He was good, I thought, yeah, without listening to loads of what he did. Whenever I did hear him, I thought oh yeah, he's pretty good, he knows his stuff. Collymore.
Speaker 4:And views and stuff. But Colimo were catching him up and I remember there was this thing about oh, cole, Colimo is better than 6-0-6, he's much more for the fans and all this sort of stuff. And then they just sort of let him go, really fairly suddenly. I remember Colimo being what you've just mentioned weren't it. No, no, no, because that was after, weren't it? Obviously, they had him on after oh yeah, because he'd said that's a good question, then why did he?
Speaker 4:Not entirely sure, but I remember it coming out one day Columbo's been dropped and I remember him on Twitter saying he came out of the blue and stuff, and then I think they had Goldstein on for a bit.
Speaker 3:I fully believe it. They've sacked me from TalkSport.
Speaker 4:Very good, I was just like you were in the room with me just then.
Speaker 3:That was a clip, that All right.
Speaker 4:But the one that I remember it for now is the 10-1 spot. It's absolutely, and it's still on the sports bar, whether it were Goldstein or O'Hara Cundi's on it. I mean, I was trying to find the theme to this is fantastic, but I couldn't find it the sort of the ad for this show where she's like everybody. What is it? Uh?
Speaker 5:where everybody knows your name and jason condi's glad you came. Yeah, yeah, I know that's it where. Jason condi knows your name and he's always glad you came this is one of the most entertaining shows.
Speaker 4:A lot of people don't like, couldn't they? A lot of people don't. More people don't like alara. A lot of people don't like goldstein. This is so entertaining. These are just two or three. Whoever's on it? Complete wind-up merchants riling people by just taking the piss. They're just enjoying it aren't they?
Speaker 3:And the bit we've talked about. And again, I don't think this is particularly sort of original. I'm sure it's common knowledge. But I love it when somebody phones up and they'll say yeah, my name's Harold, and I say alright. They'll kind of say Harold, we've got Harold on, alright. Alright, how's it?
Speaker 4:Have you seen Charlie Eccleshire?
Speaker 3:He's on Football Clichés but he's a tennis reporter. I know he's not football, but I love that name.
Speaker 4:Well, he was on as an an expert and they said now we've got Charlie Eccleshaggers, alright, chas yeah, yeah, alright Chas.
Speaker 3:I can imagine if he was on long enough it would become alright Eccles. How you doing X?
Speaker 4:X, alright X. It's so funny how they do it, so you'll be alright. Alright, leroy. How's it going, mate? Alright Lee, lee. Yeah, alright Lee, we've got L? L's on. Oh, come on L. Brilliant. What I like about Koundé is people have a go at him back Like. I remember this Arsenal fan once phoning up and saying you only ever scored one goal. What do you know about football? You're rubbish. And he's like cracking up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they absolutely don't care if they get it back.
Speaker 9:Well, Ola does get it back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he is a bit mardier, but I mean we have to mention it. Mention it, I'm hoping, because you've got the clips prepared for this, other than the Mike Parry stuff. If you haven't got it, I'll have to find this because we have to play it. Have you got the? Has anybody seen it?
Speaker 4:We must have got that surely Well which one I've just put. Play the best one I'm going to let you. I like the.
Speaker 3:Arsenal one, the Arsene Wenger statue, but I'm happy to have any of them on.
Speaker 4:Let's on. Let's just play one. We'll pick one at random. Let's play one of the. This is how almost every single show opens has anyone seen arsenal canastaurus?
Speaker 10:can you be, canastaurus, you're? You're watching a live-eating Floor Benjamin Set piece. Set piece Nicky Jommer, jommer Jommer. You're watching a live-eating. Primary Corner Pills. Morgan Keir Starmer. Can you hear me, pam? Can you hear me, pam? You're watching a live-eating. Jeremy Corbyn, frankie Cattori, shawnee, the producer, darren Bent, darren Bent, bent, bent. Can you hear me, david? You're going to win a hell of a beating. The Gunners party Perry Crows, perry Crows, ray. Can you hear me, ray? You're going to win a hell of a beating. The Tollington Arms beating the tolling to the arms. Marty, you're going to win a hell of a beating. Our tent is two community, one shields, two community shield north London forever. Don't make me laugh, bring out the drink. Idris Elba, gunners Fishbar no tiles for two decades. Can you hear me? No tiles, two decades. You're going to win a hell of a beating.
Speaker 3:I absolutely love it Genuinely. If somebody gets beat badly on a game of football, I think to myself oh brilliant, I can't wait to hear what they're going to say. I can't wait to see what Cundey's going to say. I was really disappointed. Can you hear me? Can you hear me?
Speaker 4:Who lost on Monday? Oh, where was it? It was recently and I put it on and it weren't Cund Monday, oh where was it?
Speaker 3:It was recently and I put it on and it weren't.
Speaker 4:Cundey, chelsea played Monday, didn't they? Oh, tottenham, tottenham lost to. Oh, they took them loose to recently on like a Monday night to one rubbish. They lost to Newcastle, but that weren't on Monday night, I can't remember what. Every time this is posted, you look at all the comments on youtube, on twitter and or even youtube, where people say nobody finds this funny. Well, I do, and you do.
Speaker 3:This is absolutely brilliant and yeah, I speak to jordan at work about it and he loves it. Yeah, he's trying to square the circle. Yeah, we said as well like and people may know and they may say well, of course there's a reason behind that, you idiot. I love the the duck sort of quacking laughing sound in the background. What is that and where's that come from? I always remember one of them.
Speaker 4:Who were it when France got knocked out? Has anybody seen Bergerac? Some of the things he comes out with, he's obviously just reading, he's obviously just typed in that country or that city or whatever your boy has done one hell of a beating when he does Tottenham.
Speaker 3:there's one where he says something about there must be some famous chip shop nearby or something, because he says can you hear me, poseidon Chipper, can you?
Speaker 4:hear me, I remember the top one, tottenham one, he goes. Can you hear me, gary Mabbott? Absolutely fantastic. Every time, every single time I laugh at this, there's always one name in there that makes me laugh out loud. I remember the bergerac one.
Speaker 3:I don't even know where bergerac's from, but yeah, I was the first time I heard it. Can you hear me?
Speaker 4:awesome venga statue the one of the most possibly the most famous call ever came on. Well, other than the Carragher, one maybe came on the sports bar. You remember Celts Herring I can't play the clip for this because it's too long Put in Celts Herring sports bar. It's just an incredible clip. It's a kid, who's underage, phoning up and he says look, we need permission for your parents for you to carry on talking. So he comes on and he's like hello. In a deeper voice. He's like what's your name? He's like I'm a shopkeeper. He's like what shop do you own? He goes I work on the tills at Tesco. Can you speak to your wife? And he goes hello. It's just the same kid doing all the voices. And they keep it going for about 10 minutes, like I say it's way, way, way, way too big to. You have to have the whole thing, but it's absolutely fantastic, I think.
Speaker 3:I think we found this years ago, but I haven't heard it recently. I'd have to hear it again. I can't quite remember what it said, other than it's really good. But yeah, I didn't even know it was on this show, to be quite honest, yeah, I think. Is there anything? Because obviously sorry. Is there anything? Because obviously sorry, goldstein did it before with Cundi, didn't he?
Speaker 4:Before O'Hara, I always find it weird when they'll get like Andy Goldstein he's a good mate to Noel Gallagher and they say, right, we've got Noel Gallagher here today and you think why? How have you got one of the biggest rock stars? In the world doing this mad show with Jason Cundi and O'Hara All right now, lee, how you going?
Speaker 3:ng, are you all right? Yeah, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant and obviously sorry. All I was going to say, though, is because, obviously, we've gone back on so many ones a bit further, like the keys and grain stuff, but has this just always been a sports bar, then? Or and if you, if you don't know, I have no research, so we'll just move on, but well, I can say it was called colimo dental, one was called sorry, yeah, you start with, but then it went to the sports bar.
Speaker 4:I think it's really difficult. I mean, if anyone knows, please do let me know, because I'm genuinely interested in this. It's really difficult to get like a timeline of who used. You know, like we've done Radio 1 Breakfast Show before I've talked about that and people have done it yeah quite a clear line. Yeah, really difficult with this, and I think it's because they do change presenters quite a lot.
Speaker 3:I mean Jermaine, penance is on it, we're all getting stuff every like every few months of things, aren't we?
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're all getting stuff. It's Penance sometimes on this and Jermaine Beckford. I think he's sometimes on Hartson. Yeah, he was on it, he was on.
Speaker 3:Brazil and the other morning regular was going on the Scouse guy with a tash Mickey.
Speaker 9:Quinn, mickey Quinn, he used to run it regularly. Yeah, I didn't see Mickey.
Speaker 4:Quinn yeah, I didn't see Mickey Quinn for ages on it. Yeah, there's loads of them like that, but that is brilliant sports bar, even if you're.
Speaker 3:I used to listen to that every single night at one point If you've not heard what we're on about, then yeah, just search the Some people hate it, by the way, if Cundey, has anyone seen?
Speaker 4:Yeah, some people hate this, Absolutely hate Cundey. I think it. When him and O'Hara are watching the football, the World Cup, I think that's one of the best things of the entire tournament. For me, it, my hand, it's not a thing. It's not a thing. I've loved ohara when he just said, like I don't know he goes. He's bringing luke shaw on you fucking idiot like england manager, like there used to be a professional footballer what's he doing, yeah?
Speaker 4:and then we're moving to the overnight, the overnight slot where I remember this being mike graham on his own, the independent republic of mike graham, um, and it was quite a serious show, but he wasn't. Unless I'm misremembering things, I don't remember him being this right-wing shock drop that he is now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's. I mean, obviously it became the two Mikes and that's what I knew. I didn't listen to much of it at the time, actually, I sort of knew more of them from the Saturday warmup show, but did occasionally listen to it. I'm just almost a bit like the first time I ever saw Alan Partridge and I thought it was the spoof. I used to think is this like for real, these two blokes just arguing with each other? But yeah, it's an interesting one, the Mike Graham saga because, as I said to you, if you go back and listen to them all, it's ridiculous how just nasty and angry Mike Parry is with him all the time. Welcome to the show, mike. I pork you Parry. Well, yeah, you would say that, wouldn't you? Your low face, you've got a face that needs boiling in a hot pan and chips and he also has to play the straight man and Parry gets all the laughs yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I always remember the one where he opens the show and he just says and Mike Parry is joining us today, he goes. Well, your hair's looking very unruly today. Yeah, mike, I think you're an absolute disgrace, to be honest. Well, I straight in with it.
Speaker 3:There's loads of it and for the most part seemed sort of center politics, maybe even slightly, slightly left the center.
Speaker 4:he's maybe seemed, I remember listening to his show and they were one of those things that if I couldn't sleep I'd put you know. Talks about one o'clock or whatever. He used to work really late um afternoons and um, so I, you, so I won't be going to bed until like 2 o'clock anyway. So I put this on and I don't remember it. It was background stuff, as I laid down, but I don't remember it being this thing that he's got now, where he's like the Labour government are a disgrace. And then Mike Parry came in. This is how I remember it just sort of out of nowhere.
Speaker 3:I don't remember the possible, the imagine he had bought the doors down and just decided he was on.
Speaker 4:I used to think he was just a guest and then he were on every time and the that's where I discovered mike parry, because these two, as you said, they're absolutely hilarious they went on to do uh, they did sort of I don't want to say theater shows live shows though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah like almost like, already stand up, is it? I don't really know what you'd call what they did.
Speaker 4:It's like a sit-down show, what Richard Herring does, isn't it? Yeah, but that's an interview. Yeah, it's not really an interview, is it? It's just?
Speaker 3:like an evening with Parry and Graham Just them two getting pissed.
Speaker 4:I mean everyone is fucking pissed.
Speaker 3:There's pictures of them on stage where they're sat arguing with each other, with about four empty bottles of wine and about I don't know a few beer cans on the desk.
Speaker 4:And do you know, what's really sad about the two mics Is that they both tried to do it. Graham tried to get what's his name, kevin O'Sullivan to do like a podcast, and he just didn't work. He's not funny enough, kevin O'Sullivan, he's not charming enough or whatever. He's just not got it in him. So that didn't work. It would just just sound like two old men like moaning, and mike parry tried to get a few people on who just didn't.
Speaker 3:he wasn't as insultive towards them and it just didn't work no, I mean planet porky I used to listen to but I actually thought it was all right.
Speaker 4:But even like when he's on the brazil he take, he really tones it down. These two work because mike, mike graham played the, like you say, the straight man, but he did used to also say well, you've got some needs to talk there, mike. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:I'm not going to have a go back and he'd say yeah, well, I'll tell you what. Why don't you keep saying that? And I'll climb over this table and punch you and he'd say oh, will you? Yeah, well, we'll see about that.
Speaker 4:We. But this is what I don't. I understand Graham came across as so much better than Paré in these exchanges but, like you say, it wasn't really.
Speaker 3:It's not a serious radio and, I think, an interesting fact about Mike Graham, by the way, that only I know, and I'm not saying identical, but he has a very, very similar face to Harland, the other man's city striker, really.
Speaker 4:Yeah, obviously, like Erling Graham. Do you know his real name's, archibald, isn't it? Oh no, I didn't know. That is it. Yeah, archibald Graham.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you ever get a chance next time. You look at Mike Graham or Erling Haaland, think of the other one and you think, oh yeah, very, very similar face.
Speaker 4:But then, mike Graham, they obviously fell out and we still don't really know why. I mean, graham were very open about it on Twitter, saying he's untrustworthy. I've read that.
Speaker 3:Graham wrote a book that slagged him off or or I think that's what it was, and kind of didn't get his blessing for it. But I don't know. Yeah, I don't know exactly, cause it seemed at first when it was like a publicity stunt to sell Mike Graham's book, I think, and then actually just never sort of it never calmed down and I got the feeling that that Mike Perry seemed to almost think that maybe that's what it was and that they would get back together.
Speaker 4:But then obviously graham's got his opportunity on whatever he does talk radio now, yeah, he's on talk radio, but get, get back together, if it were amazing. I mean obviously mike parry, you know, invented books, nearly rooney tunes he's way rooney autobiography yeah, but I did.
Speaker 3:There's too much bubbly in brazil before yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 4:I mean it's so, so entertaining. I can understand why people don't like it, but it is so entertaining and weirdly well. Once those two had sort of split up and gone off on their own ways, they replaced them with, obviously, paul ross, who is completely opposite, a genuinely you know normal.
Speaker 3:Just keep him in a cupboard there and like, when they need him, just go get Paul Ross.
Speaker 4:Go get Paul Ross. It's like get the guitar, get Paul Ross. Yeah, go get Paul Ross. I like Paul Ross. Like I say, I don't know why he's only doing one till four, because I think he, yeah, he has done.
Speaker 3:he's done other slots, hasn't he that early one?
Speaker 4:Then. So we'll go to the weekends now. So that's the weekdays done, obviously, that we can remember by the way sorry.
Speaker 3:We said as well we're not going to do that sort of fill that gap. Then are we? We're not going to do the four till seven.
Speaker 4:Well, I don't really remember anything of it on weekdays.
Speaker 3:I remember weekends. The only is actually six till ten. It's a four-hour show. I don't know if it's always been that. Ah, maybe that's right then, maybe that is right and as it stands at the minute, siobhan O'Hearn gets the five till six the early morning sort of papers view. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't know whether that's a more modern thing or whether there was something before it, but that's what it is at the minute.
Speaker 4:Natalie Sawyer and Tony Cascarino. Natalie Sawyer weirdly obviously was she married to Sam Mataface or, who obviously works for the station as well.
Speaker 3:He sent, shared his weird message he sent, weren't they?
Speaker 4:it's so good. I'd love to go on your juicy titties or something most marvellous boobies or something yeah, he meant to send it as am, but he sent it openly on twitter yeah but, yeah, then they ended up together.
Speaker 3:They're married, I think they might have had a kid, but I think they're divorced now they're divorced now.
Speaker 4:I think they're on good terms, but weekend mornings it's normally natalie, so you're in tony cascarino, another jingle that I can't find, which is brilliant we've got tony cascarino. He talks a bit like al pacino it's so good. If anyone can find these jingles, please, please, please send them, because I love them all. There's so many good ones. Do you remember there weren't a jingle, but do you remember the advert? Ever since I was a little boy, all I ever wanted to do was listen to talk sport Like the. Goodfellas scene. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I've heard that or if you've told me and I've kind of got a false memory of it, but yeah, it sounds familiar but yeah, I told you, cascarino and Natalie Sawyer don't really listen to them, do you not think that's another one. That's a bit bit like what we said about Hawks being Jacobs it's very good, but it's normal, just very normal and professional yeah, very cascarino, um natalie saw you obviously sky sports professional broadcaster.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she's good. Just again, safe, safe pair of hands, yeah, well, it's funny because then the warm-ups next, um, and that used to be the two mics on a weekend yeah, they.
Speaker 3:I don't know if they just filled in for a while and then they ended up doing it, but yeah, they were doing. I mean, no wonder they fell out. Really they were doing one till four every night and then on a saturday they were doing was it 11 till-1 or 10-12?
Speaker 4:Yeah, something like that, but they got replaced by well, the people doing it at the moment Max Rushton, who I really do like, and Barry Glendening, who Glendening's on a Sunday. Yeah, I've just got the weekends.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, this is the weekend as a whole yeah, yeah yeah, so Rushton and Glendening, I mean obviously they do the Guardian Sports podcast as well. There's a thing in this which is the most boring piece of radio there's. Oh, they sometimes get him on, don't they? Young Kenny off Phoenix Nights put his name out there. He sometimes comes in as well when they guest the yes, the attendances. It's absolutely so boring.
Speaker 3:How that is an ongoing feature. I mean when we travel back from the roadshow at Chapel, St Leonard's. Yeah, yeah we had it on, didn't we? That was on, and we just sat in silence listening to this Right. And we've got Russian and Diamonds against Solihull Moors. What do you reckon the attendance was? Oh well, I'll tell you what I'm going to say. I'm going to say 3040 and they say, ooh, I'm going to go for I'm going to say more than that 3000, and Glendon seems to lose every single time as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's just that if you wanted to not to cheat, but if you know you're playing this game, yeah, you could just have a quick look.
Speaker 4:Surely start to know the attendance we were doing it and the chef, he wins the qpr. And then just straight, because 38 840 don't even hold that 38 450. What's he talking about?
Speaker 3:yeah, when that is another big drinker yeah, another sort of unashamed big drinker as well. Like, did you watch the game yesterday, barry? I don't know much about what happened yesterday yeah, you often say that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't remember much about from the hours of seven till ten last night. He often goes a bit mad on uh twitter by. I want to be careful what I say here, but yeah, a lot of uh things that he's apparently slid into people's dms on twitter when he's had on Twitter when he's had a few drinks, but he seemed a real weird.
Speaker 4:I would like to know Max Ruston. I think he seems like a really, really nice bloke. I would fucking hate to know Barry Glendening. I think he'd be an awful man to know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's two mics where he's saying he's been on a show and I think he's describing being on with Barry Glendening and I get the feeling they didn't really get along yeah, I think I don't not he had a go at mental health and stuff in a roundabout way, glendening.
Speaker 4:He says sometimes he doesn't understand people who's depressed when he wakes up he just thinks but look, this show they obviously call the house as well is a famous game of that which I'm sure you've heard, but they just basically name 90s footballers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it's not on that particular show, is it? It might actually be. This might be another reason why I don't like or don't love Hawksby and Jacobs. But what's the one where they say it's not even like, oh, sport related, I don't think. But they'll say like retired Coronation.
Speaker 4:Street actress. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah whatever.
Speaker 3:How old do you think she is? Oh, I'm going to have to say I think she's 64. Oh, I think you're a long way off.
Speaker 4:I think she's 70 yeah, it's so boring, actually it's 67 oh yeah, it's awful they may as well just toss a coin and say is it heads, is it? Oh, I think it's going to be tails, oh it is, yeah, right, let's go to Alex Crook. See what he's got for us Unbelievable. Did you ever hear what?
Speaker 3:were they like that? They did Because this was a weekend morning show where they used to have. They'd do two autobiographies one against another and someone would say, right, page 74, paragraph 7, and they'd read both out and they had a celebrity guest on who had to pick which one was the best one. I don't remember this at all Because they once had Tim Vine on who were best. Some people came on it and just sort of said, oh, I'm going to have to go for whoever. It was like Mark Morrison's autobiography.
Speaker 4:Mark.
Speaker 3:Morrison. I don't know why he came to my head he's got one in Wonderland. Return of the Mac but yeah, he did like the whole. Oh, I'm going to have to say it's going to have to be Ricky Tomlinson, but yeah, he was brilliant on it.
Speaker 4:I don't even know what show that was on, but that was a weekend feature but obviously the weekends are mainly faced because they obviously get all the commentaries and stuff. So normally we talk about Durham on a Saturday and then on Sunday the commentary team and he goes around the grounds as well, if he's not commentating is Sam Matafay. I remember Sam. Obviously he's really famous now because he's ITV's chief commentator. He gets an unbelievable amount of stick. But I remember him being on TalkSport before he was on TV and I really liked him because he was unbelievable. He's so partridge. I'm going to play a clip here. People might have heard this one. This is a TalkSport commentary with Matt Afface.
Speaker 3:Agbon, the horse is counterattacking at the other end he's found Vyman, whose shot is about as weak as a glass of orange squash which is 52 parts water and half a part squash. I don't know if he's turned down any sort of things, but Because obviously, like Tilsley was sort of famous for like oh, he's got that line in his back pocket or like, ah, he can't, he seemed to like be desperate to produce this magical line but not quite know where he was going with it. He's done a lot.
Speaker 4:Tolesley. By the way, no one remembers this because they've got rid of it on the highlights on the ITV page. When England went 1-0 up against Russia in one of the Euros, when the Iceland one, actually I think he definitely said justice for the England XI which were at the time, obviously all the justice for 96 stuff were, like, you know, going to sports and stuff. They've got rid of it. He definitely, definitely said that, but they've taken it out of the RTV. That's what a bad line. Justice for the England 11. For the England 11, yeah, unbelievable. So normally this is like the commentary. You know they have the commentaries and stuff. You know, has anybody seen whoever's lost?
Speaker 4:in that particular weekend, but it's often also like we mentioned Alan Pardew and Majestic, but this is also a slot that Goldbridge did, Mark Goldbridge and Rory Jennings as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so Goldbridge did a Saturday night show and I think this was TalkSport, which they've done quite well, realising that social media space was a good place to grow into Goldbridge. Obviously he's now got two million subscribers. So, yeah, I like Goldbridge Again, very acquired taste. But yeah, I felt a bit sorry for him because they sort of took him in and sold him this come in and do TalkSport and they had him on different shows and that he's left now, aren't they? Yeah, they got rid of him. They had a change of direction. I don't know if one of the chief executives changed, but they used to get him on shows like Goldbridge. You get him on the breakfast show and stuff, and they just wanted him to say shock, jock stuff like oh, mark, you must be absolutely fuming about that. No, no, not really, guys, I think most United fans didn't expect to win that one. Oh no, come on, mark, you must be livid. No, I'm not shocked at all. I just think they didn't get out of him what they wanted really.
Speaker 4:But did you read? Obviously Jennings. Jennings is brilliant.
Speaker 3:If you said to Jennings right, we're going to put out a quick clip tonight. Can you tell us why Chelsea will definitely win the league this year? Well, I'll tell you why Chelsea will definitely win the league this year. They are absolutely the best team in it, the best team on the planet. If you said sorry, sorry, we were just hearing why Chelsea might get relegated this season, yeah, no problem Chelsea are an absolute champ.
Speaker 4:A disgrace yeah you can, where someone put a clip together of when Pochino's Chelsea manager and he's going Pochino is destroying this football club. We are now in serious danger of a relegation battle and then he gets sacked, because I cannot believe Chelsea have sacked one of the best managers in the world in Pochino. Like next to each other. He's like you've got it before, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. But he's got that sort of like politician vibe where you buy into it and you think, oh yeah, he's right actually, and then a week later he's saying a complete opposite and you're thinking, yeah, fair play, rory, I think you've got a point there. He's good at it. I'll give him that. And for those that didn't listen to, I don't know which episode we mentioned it in, but he was the kid in the Harry Enfield sketch.
Speaker 8:No Fast.
Speaker 3:Show Fast Show sketch where a competitive. Dad's always beating his kid, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's too obvious for me, jennings, if you know what I mean. I don't think he's as funny as Goldbridge, and I think it's just too obvious. I don't think he's as good as a wind-up merchant as Durham, neither. So I don't listen to him. But the weekend ends on a Sunday with a fantastic show which I don't listen to enough. Actually it's fantastic show I should not listen to enough. Actually it's danny kelly's transsoro express.
Speaker 3:This is a brilliant show where it just goes around like european football and he's a. He's fantastic. Danny kelly, yeah, so I've mentioned to me simon jordan is, if there's one show I can I have to keep, it's probably white and jordan for simon jordan. But if there's only one presenter that I have to keep from the whole lot of talk sport, it's danny kelly. I, kelly, I think he's so good, like he can, he can talk about the most boring subject, like sometimes you'll think he'll say, well, coming up tonight we're going to talk about why Chester's changed the green shorts, has affected the fans, and you think, oh, I'm not interested in that, but he's brilliant. I just think Danny Kelly is so knowledgeable and he's talked so well and he's so professional. And I'm pretty sure I've heard some of the other presenters say like, well, yeah, fair play to danny kelly. He's the one who sort of brought me in and showed me the ropes. I think he's been around the progression of a lot of these people as well.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, huge fan of danny kelly yeah, I really really do like danny kelly used to. Obviously teamed up with danny baker, didn't I?
Speaker 3:yeah, I kind of associate them two in my mind, and that's well obviously why? Because they did something together. But yeah, I see them both. As I see Danny Baker as more sort of comedy and a bit more wacky, I think, and maybe that's not fair, but that's my perception of him, I see Danny Kelly as a bit more professional, yeah, but that's great and that is basically all we've got for TalkSport.
Speaker 4:Another notable mention, I suppose, of people who really haven't got their own show or anything like Alex Crooker we've mentioned, who pops up every hour saying the same story to different presenters, and the Moose who's always Ian Abrahams yeah, ian Abrahams, the Moose who's been a stalwart of TalkSport.
Speaker 3:You don not on it very much these days?
Speaker 4:No, but he used to be the man, didn't he? To you know, like the go-to guy, the journalist, when they go around the grounds.
Speaker 3:He's sort of a roving reporter these days. I think he always did that, to be fair, but he used to pop up on all different shows Alex Crook, I something the other day and it's like I suppose it makes sense, but it's most appearances on talk sports shows and you assume like it's going to be alan brazil and jason cundy and I think ian abrahams is the highest and alex crook despite, in my mind, only being on for the past sort of two or three years, he's already at number sort of 17 out of 20 or something like that. He's literally on every show, isn't he?
Speaker 4:yeah, it is literally. He's literally. He's the most. He's been on more, according to this thing that I saw anyway more talk sport shows than anybody else. Football correspondent Alex Crook. Alex Crook. Well, yeah, there's rumours coming out at Manchester United today that Biro and Fernando are not happy.
Speaker 3:It always reminds, reminds me of that. Um, I think it's from day to day, was it?
Speaker 3:but um which is he doesn't like it yeah I mean, he does know his stuff, don't get me wrong. But yeah, he's sort of well, that's what he said, jim but what is? Whether that happens or not, we don't, we won't know. He loves telling you as well, like sort of it's just a constant call back to well, I don't know if you'll remember, but this is something that we broke last week on talk sport after I'd just spoken to he's like it's always he's just spoken to someone. He must have got a lot of contacts oh, yeah, he will do definitely.
Speaker 4:I like nothing against alex crook whatsoever, like the mood, I like him, like him really do, like talk sport, and I suppose, in conclusion, I wouldn't ask you in conclusion, why is it last to the test of time? But we've sort of answered that, haven't we?
Speaker 3:I think. So, yeah, I think the only thing, the only person. I well, there's two we need to mention because we've talked about good names. Two of the best names ever are Hugh Woosencroft and Tony Incenzo. Absolutely love the names you've got on TalkSport. They're like written characters, but they are their names, aren't they?
Speaker 5:So good so so good but yeah, I think we've summarised it.
Speaker 3:It's very targeted at a certain group of people and, luckily for us, we are probably that target audience. We are that group.
Speaker 4:Like I say, it's not something I listen to all the time, but if I put it on the radio it's probably the first radio station I go to. You know seven, two, three on my uh, on my TV, straight on there, talk sport. See what's happening. And yeah, really well, god bless, talk sport.
Speaker 3:Here's to 25 years more.
Speaker 4:Here's for 25 years more.
Speaker 3:So 25. So 25 years of TalkSport absolutely brilliant, I've loved it. Next episode we really like the bonus ones that we've done where we've done the mysteries. So, on a similar theme to that, we're going to do conspiracy theories. I know this is something you enjoy filling Not that you're a conspiracy theorist, but you like to read about conspiracy theories, don't you?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I've got three books on conspiracy theories. The ones that you get now like when people they're just too ridiculous. I like the ones you think hmm, do you know what? Maybe he's got a point, even though you know it's not really true, or most of the time it's not really true, but some conspiracies are true which we'll get onto next week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we might even. We're not going to tie ourselves down, we're not going to chain ourselves with certain restrictions, as we've done in the past. We're going to come up with three each. The only thing we're saying is we're going to try and vary them a bit. So we're not going to do. I'm not going to pick three about UFOs. You're not going to pick three about I don't even know what.
Speaker 4:No, but we're going to try and make them entertaining, Either absolutely outlandish or something you think. Do you know what? Putting two and two together, I think this is true.
Speaker 3:Well, I think a lot of people assume conspiracy theories are just madness. Yeah, yeah yeah, there must be some that have come true Loads.
Speaker 4:Well, just off the top of my head Illsbury disaster or conspiracy theory, ppi scandal, conspiracy theory that's just two off the top of my head. There'd be more than that Post office scandal. That were conspiracy. Conspiracies do happen, people do hide the truth and stuff. Are they still a conspiracy theory, though, if they're proved as fact? Well, no, they're not a theory anymore once they're proved as fact. But they did start as conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3:So we're allowed to have previously theory now fact, If you want to, yeah.
Speaker 4:If you've got a conspiracy theory that actually came true and you say, oh actually, but then it uncovered that this actually happened, then, yeah, that's acceptable, All right, all right. Well, thank you for that, Liam, and thank you to TalkSport, and we will see you for conspiracy theories next time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and just to see us out is a bit more a mike porky parry I'm not saying the scots have been wiped out.
Speaker 9:I know they haven't been wiped out because you did a show there just before christmas. You can develop albinoism. You can, I'm sure, I'm sure. Yeah, apparently flip-flops develop from earrings right. Come on, you four-eyed, fat-faced fool. When are we going to be able to literally build a bridge between Earth and the Moon? Kissing a man without a beard is like eating your chips without salt and vinegar.
Speaker 1:Air dryer.
Speaker 9:Nobody's ever seen a white rhino, so it doesn't matter. Well, people have seen them. Nobody's ever seen a dinosaur butino, so it doesn't matter. Well, people have seen. No, nobody's ever seen like a dinosaur, but we still, you know, revere dinosaurs, so we'd still revere the white rhino even if they weren't in white rhinos. It doesn't really matter if the white rhino dies. I always have enough novocaine pumped into my mouth and my jaw and my gums to freeze my face for a day, literally. If people speak to me during that day, I never smile because I can't. In fact fact, I never communicate. People think I've gone mad.
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