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#031 - I didn't know what to do afterwards - An Engineer's Story

Kyle Baker and Dieter Borrell Season 3 Episode 5

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Welcome to our podcast. If you're new to our podcast, the podcast was created by two Architect that felt they needed to  share their experience and hardships not only in our profession but in life and family.

On today's episode we invited Carminda (Mindy) Day.  She works with Schmidt Consulting Group Inc. and now the new IMEG. She is a licensed engineer and she specializes in mechanical engineering. Graduated from the University of Alabama. Licensed in the State of Florida.

Grab a seat and some coffee and take a few minutes to join us in our podcast.

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Welcome to the T ^2 dad's Brown Bag podcast. Here's your host, Kyle Baker and Dieter Burrell.

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OK.

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Mandy, Carmen.

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Tell me your name.

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Exactly, Mindy.

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It's Carmen today, but everyone knows me as Mindy.

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So I've been going by Mindy my whole life.

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I tried to.

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I actually tried to start going by Carmen a couple of.

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Years back and it didn't stick so.

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The mistake I know you by by Mindy.

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Since forever so.

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Thank you for coming to our podcast.

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And I wanted to bring you in so that my listener.

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Had a background because everybody has a different background as to how they got into their profession and I wanted to kind of have you in my podcast so that our in our podcast so that everyone can kind of hear, listen to how each person has their story, how much different it is and how they can relate.

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To to to each one of you guys that are that come on to the podcasts now.

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Mindy, you work for an engineering company and you.

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Got license, is that correct?

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And yeah, I'll just, I'll give you my my background.

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So I actually started going to the University of Florida and Gainesville for architecture.

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And after two years, they have what they call pin up and they only pick certain number of people to go on.

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Well, I was not chosen.

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So then I was kind of lost and was like, what am I?

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What am I going to do?

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Well, I've always done drafting computer aided, drafting.

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I I took computer aided drafting in high school and then had of course a couple classes during my architecture agenda.

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After I didn't make the pin up, I was like, OK, I guess I'm just going to go into drafting.

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So I went and got my degree in both architectural and mechanical drafting and design.

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So I have two design degrees drafting and design degrees, and that's kind of where I started.

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So after I got those degrees, I.

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Of course, put in applications to both engineering and architecture firms.

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And engineering firms were the first ones to call me back, so that's how I got in to the engineering field, started out as a drafter and did that for a long time.

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And then.

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I guess it was about 7:00 or 8:00 of years ago after my kids were old enough, they didn't really need me as much.

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I decided I'm going to go back to school for engineering.

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So then I decided to go to the University of Alabama because they have actually an online mechanical engineering program.

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Oh, I didn't know that.

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And I I only had to go to Tuscaloosa for labs.

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So, you know, every semester I had to go up there two or three times.

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And and where I work, Schmidt consulting, they were willing to work with me and let me off, you know, it's random times.

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Wednesday or Thursday and middle of the week to go up there and do my labs and.

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Get that handled so that took.

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Of course, you know, I already had my from previous degrees already had the associate of Arts degree as well.

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So I had all the math English and all that the basics.

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So theoretically it should have only took me two years to to finish the engineering degree but.

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Again, I was working full time, so I kind of did it two or three classes this semester, so that took.

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Me four years.

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My yeah, to finally get my engineering degree.

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And I did that again while working full time at Schmidt and.

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Then yeah, December 2019 is when I graduated.

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Oh wow.

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And yeah, so super, super excited to finally be an engineer after all that time.

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That's awesome.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah, and then since.

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Not only that, but where you're working.

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You're working and taking care of the kids and everything else and in.

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School and everything.

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Were you OK?

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Oh, yeah.

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I was busy.

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I didn't.

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I was.

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I didn't know.

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You know what to do with myself after I was done with school.

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Because I was.

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So busy coming home every night, doing lectures and homework.

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And you know, math every single night of my life for four years.

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So it's kind of funny.

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Whenever that was done.

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And I came home after work.

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I was like, uh, I don't.

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I don't even know what.

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To do with myself, I have.

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All this free time.

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And you and and so.

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So then you got your degree and then you kind of kept working and.

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Get your license.

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When did you get your license?

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So I got my first license actually through Maryland because.

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At that point, I had 10 years of experience, right?

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OK.

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And mayor, there's a couple of states, Maryland, Colorado.

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There's two or three states that will let you get your license based on years of experience, no matter when you graduated.

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Basically like Florida, you have to have three years post graduation experience before you can get your.

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License, Maryland.

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They'll they'll count you.

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Years prior to your graduation date as experience.

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So I went and got my I went past the first.

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The fundamental of engineering test.

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I took that passed it, and then I waited.

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A few months later, took the professional engineering test.

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And then immediately got my applied for the Maryland license.

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Again, we do a lot of DoD work, so they with the DoD, they don't care where your license is.

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You can sign and seal with any state.

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License so that was.

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That was helpful for what we do.

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And then I had to wait till.

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Yeah, three years.

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So I think it was last December when I could finally get my Florida license.

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So I just got my Florida license, December of last year.

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To get the license that you go through like a reciprocity or test.

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Yeah, testing. Well, I got the Florida license through reciprocity after I still had to meet the three-year post graduation requirement so.

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OK.

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But at that point I have a Maryland license and.

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Obviously passed the exams, so all of that is what led me to getting finally my Florida license.

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I got you to to, to sympathize with you because I went through through Community College to to the state of to the University of Florida, and I did pin up and I remember.

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Hearing about people go in the first two years and then having to pin up and then they filter out people to go to the third, third and 4th year.

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And as as coming in from a Community College, we had to do pin up similar, we had to meet certain GPA's and certain class criterias and they only had a certain slot of people that they would only let.

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And every year from from, like community colleges.

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And I didn't, I didn't.

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I didn't get into the first year and I I I went back to Miami because I'm from Miami and I spent a year, I guess, at the University of Miami and then redid the pin up and then was accepted.

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And of course, I had to rush through and get some physics and calculus classes and pass those in the summer, and I was able to go in so, so.

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Oh wow.

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So I know how crazy it can be.

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The certain universities and they're.

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You know, requirements to go to the next level.

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But and honestly, I think it probably work.

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For you now talking, you know, retrospective, I'm thinking for you it probably worked better to have to have gone into engineer cause of the engineering.

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Pays a lot more than.

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Yeah, I I think.

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Well, that and you know you guys.

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Have to work the long hours and pull everything together.

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After we give you the stuff.

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So yeah, I can.

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I can go home at 5 most of.

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The time.

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So I think it worked out.

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In message.

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The way it's supposed to.

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Now when you went to Alabama and I know it was probably just like maybe like.

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Was it lab?

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Like weekend events?

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Or was it like a week event or something like that?

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Have to.

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Go there.

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It was, well, both.

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It was mostly weekends, but there were a few.

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OK.

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Labs that were during the week.

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I got you.

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I got you.

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Did you get the?

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Did you get the experience?

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Did you get to know anybody in in Alabama from other areas where they were doing the same?

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I did and there were several.

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There were people of all ages actually going back.

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Since it was an online course, you know there were people.

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In their 20s all the way up to their 60s going back for their engineering degree.

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So it's pretty interesting, yeah.

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Yeah, I bet it was interesting because I get.

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I get people when they ask me in, in architecture, they ask me, hey, is there any way to kind of get licensed without having gone?

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To school and and there are there certain the certain States and and those states are closed, they're they're I know in carbon.

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A lot of the.

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National entities they're trying to close those windows. They don't want people to have, like, a 1015 year experience with high school degree or something like that.

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And they become professionals.

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It I think I think it's all money driven, but you know I think you know the education is important, but I think the experience is.

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Extremely valuable.

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I think it is.

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I mean the the experience, you know, school doesn't teach you obviously what you need to know to.

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Do your job. You.

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You learn from experience, so it does.

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It it it?

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And sometimes I think it doesn't make sense to only have three years experience, you know, three or four years of experience where, like, OK, you're ready to take your test.

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You know, you're you're still learning every day.

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If you know I've been in it 15 years.

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I'm still learning every day so.

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Yeah, same same.

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Experiences I would agree more important almost than educate.

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Yes, same here.

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And so you're so you're a native Pensacola, right?

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You are OK.

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All right.

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Well, that that makes that makes a lot of sense.

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I I have been meeting some folks that are are not originally from Pensacola but have come here through through other.

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Members if he if he had a chance to listen to that Curtis podcast, his wife he had, she had family here so they can't.

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They came to Pensacola, but he he he was already connected here because of his previous employer, not, you know, in.

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So I I'm not originally from Pensacola, but my wife, her dad came here because of the Navy.

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And you know, they the kids were born in and and her and her brother, I mean, were raised in Pensacola.

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So when I met her, I kind of migrated to this area and.

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I guess I've been here also a very long, long time.

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How long have you been in Pensacola?

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You and your wife?

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She's been here her entire life and I've been here almost a little over 20.

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Three years, maybe 20/20/22 years, maybe 21, maybe 2120.

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OK, OK.

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One years, yeah.

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Yeah. So so it's been.

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You can almost call yourself a local.

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I've seen.

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I remember when we used to go down to Seville quarters and it was like just stay, just stay on these two roads, don't go beyond those two roads because you know, you never know you could get mugged.

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Yep, Yep.

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Now it's now it's a lot safer.

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So I mean, if anybody is out there listening, it's like Pensacola has grown and it's still growing according to Curtis.

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He says that I think he's been involved in some.

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City planning or something or other to that effect, where there's so much money coming into Pensacola up in the next 10 years, they're looking at like $6 billion worth of construction.

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That's maybe, you know, maybe occurring here in this.

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Area. So it's crazy growth.

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A lot of people are investing in statistically.

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This is a.

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Known fact that I came across it. I think I I remember saying 1200 or 1400 people moved to Florida every.

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Yay. Wow, isn't that crazy?

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That's crazy.

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I feel like they're all moving to Santa Rosa and Escambia County.

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A lot. A lot.

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All of those people?

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There's where you live in Santa Rosa.

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Yeah, I live in Milton.

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OK.

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And you know, I live out by Whiting Field, it's farm country.

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And even on my Rd.

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we've had since I've.

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I've lived out here because I lived in Navarre for a while and I've only been out here for three years, so in.

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Farm country in Milton for three years I've already seen like 15 houses down my.

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Road get built.

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In the middle of nowhere.

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Ohh my gosh.

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So it's it's crazy, yeah.

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So your your specialty in engineering is?

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What mechanical and plumbing or?

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Mechanical Yep, HVAC and plumbing.

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OK, OK. So.

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HVAC and plumbing and from and.

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This is more from what I just heard just recently.

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You guys are are moving.

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We are, yeah, we're we're moving today.

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Yesterday this.

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Week and yeah, we're we're relocating to the 11 papantonio building.

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It's a 5.

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Story building.

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And on our new new address is 316 S baylin St.

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It'll be right down there.

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On the third floor.

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Go, go, go, go.

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Do some light shopping downtown and enjoy the restaurants.

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And I can walk to lunch now.

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I don't have to get my car that's going to be nice.

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That would be awesome.

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That would be awesome.

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Yeah, I know that.

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I was talking to Kyle.

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Kyle Baker.

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He's in.

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He's in.

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He just, he's an architect and uh, we we're trying to do this podcast together, but I'm.

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I'm taking over just so that because he's been super.

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Swamped with work.

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And he he he's trying to.

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He's trying to.

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He I know he works downtown and so he's got all those shops.

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And I remember when I used to work downtown too, and it wasn't a walking distance.

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You guys can have like a walking distance to everything, you know.

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You know, we used to we we we used a couple of scooters to scoot around you guys.

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The scooters do have, I just remember.

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Yeah, we did.

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Well, you know, we used to have scooters, jeans used to have a couple of scooters that we would all use in the office.

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Someone hurt themselves and then all the scooters magically went away.

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Yeah, I won't say who and how.

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But they hurt themselves pretty good so but you.

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Know now downtown has scooters you can rent so.

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They do.

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They got so many uh, what is it?

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They say they have an area where you can't screw it.

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And I think that's Palafox.

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Yeah, I think so.

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But I still saw people doing it.

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I tried, I tried.

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Well I tried using one of them and it was it kept shutting off and I kept pushing and I go.

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Why isn't it letting me go down the sidewalk on Palafox?

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And once I came off of Palafox, it turned back on like the power?

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So it's like so maybe GPS thing that that it's got and and and they have they have it.

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So it's kind of funny that they do have that but.

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Well, thank thank you for for joining me.

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This is going to be a short one.

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Thank you for joining me and Mindy with Smith.

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Consult is.

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Is it?

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Has it been announced Schmidt Consulting?

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Now I, Meg.

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I, Meg. OK.

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Officially I, Meg now, correct?

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I make yes.

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Ohh and that's that's exciting.

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And you know, everybody kind of sometimes when when you're an employee, you worry about, like, oh, man, is it it's things are things going to change and then you know the people that are coming in and say well are are are people best suited you know to work with this entity you know it's just I've seen so many different things like that but super duper I'm super excited.

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For you, and thank you for being a part of this little podcast.

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And I I hope people can kind of get a get an idea of Pat.

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You know, everybody has a different path into the AE field and your story, your your story tells some of some of the listeners is like, hey, there is more than one.

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The way to get there, and sometimes it just takes a little longer than than others, but you know it's like that's your goal.

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Absolutely. Yep.

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You gotta hit that goal and and and keep going for it.

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Well, thank you, Mindy.

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And if you and if you want it, you know, and you have a full time job, you can still get it done.

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Takes a lot of work, but.

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It's totally worth it.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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Thank you, Mindy, again, for, for being part of the podcast.

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Little soon. Thank you.

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