10,000 Swamp Leaders
10,000 Swamp Leaders is a podcast that wades into muddy Swamp in search of people who have built social impact movements.The world needs 10,000 more people in the next five years who are willing to lead on issues like climate change, income inequality, peace building, and gender equality. If you are one of these people, you have found a home. Rick Torseth and his guests will unpack lessons learned, why small wins matter more than breakthroughs and how failure is our wisest teacher. We continue to confuse leading with authority. Leading is not a role or a position. It begins when you raise your hand and intervene in a heated environment that matters to you. Our conversations will dig into what is at stake when the heat is high and the only way forward is wadding into swampy conditions. These are human stories that don’t always have hero endings. We want to understand how these leaders’ lives are turning out differently because they chose to lead. What are the rewards for all this exposure and risk? Each episode will be a little different, as each guest will be different. Hit subscribe so you can prepare to lead.
10,000 Swamp Leaders
056_Ellen Schall: A Reflective Practitioner’s Journey
Ellen Schall of New York University comes to the Swamp and shares her wisdom on how to develop a leadership reflective practice. Ellen’s journey began when she worked in New York City starting as a Legal Aid Society attorney. She moved to New York University in 1992 and it is still her home. She taught the Leadership course: Reflective Practice: Learning from Work.
Ellen shares her thoughts on the importance of distinguishing role from self, how to develop a self-reflection practice, her definition of leading and the deep value that comes from working on the front line of public service. Ellen is a wisdom sharer. Your time listening to Ellen will deepen your capacity to use yourself to lead. But will mean you will need to develop and follow your own Reflective Leadership Practice. She will help you with that work.
Ellen’s Links
A Reflective Practitioner Journey paper
Learning to Love the Swamp: Reshaping Education for Public Service paper
Leadership Reflections New Book
Ellen Schall Harvard Kennedy School Case
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- Jacki Hydock for her lending her wonderful voice to our introduction and outro
- Great music by Jazz Night
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