Do the sex . Hi , this is Annette Benedetti your hostess for a locker room talk and chocks , the podcast that likes to think of itself as the queer NPR of raunchy women's sex talk . You are about to sit in on the kind of conversations women have on their girls' nights out or behind closed doors , while enjoying delicious drinks and dishing about sex . Think , fun , honest and feminist as fuck , and always with the goal of fighting the patriarchy . One orgasm at a time . Welcome to the locker room .
Annette BenedettiToday's locker room talk and chocks topic by listener request is small penis humiliation S P H . That's how they messaged it to me . I had to look it up . I was like what is S P H ? It makes sense . So we have gone over cock and ball torture with my guest today . We've gone over the humiliation kink with my guest today . So it only made sense that as soon as this request came across my computer , I would reach out to her and say hey , can we address small penis humiliation ? If you watch any porn or even TV show Now , on TV shows , I want to say euphoria there was an example on that show of somebody wanting to be humiliated and I think it was small penis humiliation but , it's kind of mainstream .
Annette BenedettiIt's so common . But interestingly enough , when I went out there to really find comprehensive information about small penis humiliation like it wasn't being widely written about . So I have Lisa Finn from Beyblend and Sister Store Good Vibes here today to talk us through small penis humiliation . Lisa , will you go ahead and give everybody the rundown on who you are and what you do ?
Lisa FinnYes , hi everybody . My name is Lisa Finn and I am a sex educator with Beyblend and Good Vibes . I have been with Beyblend since 2016 . So I've been doing this for a minute for sure . I absolutely love talking about kink , helping people sort of find their kinky side . I think that everyone has one , and I am also a sex toy expert . So if you check out Beyblend , you will see lots of my tips and tricks there .
Annette BenedettiRight . So she is going to walk us through what small penis humiliation is . I think we're going to be able to address all the common comments that come up from people around it , because I think it can be confusing , especially to women and vulva owners who have been taught like making fun of someone's penis size is like a shitty , shitty , shitty thing to do , a kintu body shaming . So we're going to address all of that and then how to do it , because it is something that's requested often from people with what we'll get to , the size of penis that gets shamed . But before we move on , I want to remind you that I am now doing masturbation Mondays . It's a very short mini-soat I'm putting out every Monday that goes over my newly established pleasure practice , the toys I'm using , the fantasies I'm summoning , why I'm doing this . So if you are curious or you're also trying to create your own self-pleasure practice , please join me for that and we'll all start having orgasms together . That's the goal .
Annette BenedettiBut let's go ahead and raise our glasses . I am ready to talk about small penis humiliation . Cheers Sontra . All right , let's just dive in . What is small penis humiliation ?
Lisa FinnIt is one of the kinks . That is exactly what it sounds like . So it is the verbal erotic humiliation of someone's penis , of someone's genitals , where a dominant is usually the one consensually degrading a submissive's penis , specifically talking about the size , so very specifically calling them small or tiny . There's a lot of shame and stigma around having a small penis and that feeds directly into toxic masculinity . So SPH gives the opportunity to not only explore but actually challenge that . So the average penis size erect for Americans is actually around five inches , but we have all these unrealistic standards that we get from mainstream media , porn etc . That make people with average and even above average penises feel like that perfectly normal size is inadequate somehow , and with that , most people that participate in small penis humiliation don't actually have a small penis as compared to a national average . It's a part of a fantasy . The humiliation is not coming from a point of actually talking about their size , but challenging them , humiliating them on something that is such a taboo topic .
Annette BenedettiI love that you bring up well two things the size and then challenging toxic masculinity , because it seems almost to be the opposite , but it in actuality is not , and I think people think and there was a lot of misinformation out there that was oh , it's only people who have micro penises who want this , and that is not the case . It is people who have typically average size penises and I would venture to say that sometimes even people on the bigger size want their penis humiliated in this way . It's more about the humiliation , right .
Lisa FinnYeah , absolutely . And the thing about folks that do have micro penises or smaller than average penises participating in this is that it can actually be a form of empowering them . It can be a form of taking control over an insecurity . If they are actually insecure about their penis size , someone with a micro penis can absolutely love the size of their penis . Partners can absolutely love the size of that penis . Again , it's that idea of unrealistic standards , so this could just be a way of playing with that taboo , whether or not it relates to your actual size .
Annette BenedettiYeah , I love that . Yeah , a micro penis could be very pleasurable for people who like to grind , for women and vulva owners who experience pain with deep penetration . I mean , I don't know , I have a woman who likes to grind with other women . I'm like small penis grinding could be super fun in my opinion . It's not something I've gotten to do . I've never been with someone with a micro penis , but I've been with someone with a very large clit . That was fun .
Annette BenedettiI'm going to ask the question and we've already addressed it in our other podcast episodes , but I think obviously we want to address it here . People are going to ask the question why would somebody want this humiliation ? What's the ? Do they have a problem ? Do they have an issue ? And we have said you have said before you can have a kink for absolutely no other reason than you're just kink . It's a kink , just is . And digging into the psychology behind it and mental health stuff behind it is not necessary , but maybe you could throw out some reasons why people have this kink and what they get out of it . First , like the person being shamed . What do , why do they have it and what do they get out of it ?
Lisa FinnYeah , so , like I just mentioned , it could be taking taking control over insecurity , you know , sort of having that be something , that you are taking that taboo or that shame or whatever it is , and making it into something positive through an erotic experience , even if that eroticism is through belittling , is through condescension , humiliation , degradation , whatever it is .
Lisa FinnBut a lot of this has to do directly with power dynamics . It's about giving up control to a DOM . It's about getting aroused by being vulnerable , with small penis humiliation in particular , you know , playing with emasculation . All of these things are reminiscent of that DS dynamic , but taken to a space where it's a little bit more focused on the mental and emotional . Now , of course , that could have come from an experience in our past . You know we can absolutely go forward with any of this and you know see where it happened at another time in our life , maybe something that happened when we were younger . But it could just be something as simple as being really turned on by someone that he is in a very intense position of power over you , where you know this is being eroticized , where this is arousing .
Annette BenedettiI get that as the person who would like to do the small penis shaming , Like I think I can under . So let's talk about . Let's talk about the penis shamer , Because I'm like I think this I have said to you before in our podcast on cock and ball torture there was this moment when you brought up just threatening a penis and I'm like , oh my God , I want to threaten the penis and I had never thought about it before . I wasn't joking , although it may have sounded like it was . So let's talk a little bit about the penis shamer and what they get out of it .
Lisa FinnSo , absolutely , this could be something that you know is being done for the partner for sure , but for a dominant doing any sort of humiliation kink , but particularly small penis humiliation it could be a way of empowering themselves over that toxic masculinity . You know , I am not above the fact that before I really understood the concept of body shaming , I absolutely would see someone with like a decked out car that was ridiculous revving their motor and just be like , well , that person has a small penis . I know better now but it's part of that , you know , when we sort of take that into something that we're holding against someone , that could be a really powerful thing to do , especially if we're doing it as a part of challenging that masculinity which for some people can be really hot , especially when it's consensual and the person understands what this dynamic is and they're a part of it as well .
Annette BenedettiLike I'm clearly excited by the idea . I am ready to shame some penises . I don't care what size it is , you can bring me a 10 footer and I'm going to make fun of it If that's , if that's what you want , consensually only . So let's move into . Well , first of all , I was going to just like , let's move into how to do it but for , let's say , a partner , especially a partner with a vulva . Your partner comes to you and they're like hey , I'd like you to do this thing , or starts hinting at it and it takes you back for a second and you don't know , like how do I say this to someone I love ? And can you give just some tips to overcoming the roadblocks , the mental roadblocks , to being willing to do that for a partner as a relationship enhancing thing ?
Lisa FinnThis is tricky because with humiliation , a lot of times it's going to come from a request of the sub rather than a request of the DOM . But it really depends on what the dynamic is . If you're going to see a professional DOM and their whole thing is that they're very much so like , mean and aggressive and whatever it is that could be on the table and they could ask if you're okay with that . But if this is a we've never done any sort of humiliation kink before . My DOM has never said , or my partner has never said , that they're interested in a humiliation kink . Jumping to something that could be so personal and so intense could be a lot .
Lisa FinnSo , talking about humiliation overall first and getting a general idea of I'm into this , is this something that you would want to explore ? Okay , what are the things that are okay to talk about ? How intense are we willing to go ? Can I talk about your body ? Can I talk about your genitals ? I don't . You know whether or not you think that they have a small penis . You can also go ahead and say that you know , but be like the idea of saying it is something that's hot to me , because if that is a point of insecurity for your partner . You don't want them to think that the reason why you're bringing it up is because you actually want to make fun of their penis , because of just how you feel about it , rather than as part of the kink , Then the opposite of someone if your partner's bringing it up to you .
Annette Benedettiit's sort of kind of the same conversation , correct
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Lisa FinnJust the starting off with humiliation overall and taking it from there , getting into specifics , having this conversation beforehand . Fill out a yes-no-maybe list and pop that on there . It could be a really good way to sort of facilitate it in with a bunch of other stuff . I find that a yes-no-maybe list is a really good way to put specific kinks that may not come up in conversation organically or that you're not prepared to just say outright Maybe the conversation never gets to a point where it feels like there's a segue to talk about this specific thing . Filling out a yes-no-maybe list is a very good way to do so . We actually have one on the website . It is very basic , but you can always add your own . So it's babelandcom backslash , yes-no-maybe Easy peasy , taking that moment to sort of step into it rather than diving right in again , unless that dynamic is already established and this makes sense for where you're at with humiliation play or with what your DS dynamic already is .
Annette BenedettiNow let's get started . How does one humiliate a penis For people who haven't don't watch Born or who haven't come across it ? What would that look like ? Engaging in the small penis humiliation , kink ?
Lisa FinnYeah . So there are a couple of ways that you could do it . One could just be simply talking about their size . It doesn't even necessarily have to be that you were straight up insulting them by saying something about it other than that it's small . It could just be you saying you have such a tiny dick . Look at how small it is . It's so it looks like . You know , it looks like a thumb saying something that is just very much so basic . We're just talking about the size . Or it could be something about how you can use it . So how do you expect to please me with that tiny little thing ? I can't feel you at all . Are you even inside me right now ? You can make it about taking control over what they can or can't do Making someone wear a strap on over their cock , whether or not that strap on is bigger than them , and Making it .
Lisa FinnOh , you can't please me with your dick , so I need you to put this on . Instead , maybe watching them touch themselves and Berating them or condescending them for that . So something like stop touching yourself like that's a real penis , use your tiny fingers , touch your tiny dick with your tiny little fingers Something that is very much so targeted in a way that you know we're playing with other pieces of it . I'm telling you how to touch yourself , I'm telling you that you can't specifically do something , but it's all integrated back into the because you have a small dick . That's what the sort of connecting factor is . Is that , whatever this command is , it's because you have a small dick . Whether or not the two things are related , wow .
Annette BenedettiYeah , that was just a great little 101 on how to how to . Yeah , that sounds that actually sounds pretty .
Lisa FinnAnyone listening ? I will drop my Venmo yeah .
Annette BenedettiFuck , people pay for that . I love that . I love that we are gonna refer you back to our our humiliation podcast . This kink falls under the Humiliation kink and there's a lot to it , and so we're not going to repeat all of the stuff that we did in the humiliation Podcast . You're gonna need to scroll back , dive into that podcast . So , consent we're doing the whole consent piece up front , and and be so . Before you want to try any of these things like comparing To a dildo or having them strap it on , those are things you've got a like clear yeah , up front . And Then all the way through , right , at least at the beginning , you're gonna want to check in , use your dirty talking . Another podcast that we will have for you your new dirty talking skills to check in throughout , correct , yeah ?
Lisa Finnabsolutely and you know I've said this in all of our sort of verbal kink based podcast Is that , even though it's just words , you still need a safe word .
Lisa FinnYou still need to have that negotiation ahead of time , especially with something like humiliation , especially with something like small penis humiliation , because maybe part of this kink for you is that you're gonna cower , is that you're not gonna speak up , is that maybe you want to cry ? You know , maybe this is all part of the kink and those things would be a red flag elsewhere . So you want to have that opportunity to have something that , even if you're like , no , don't say that I have a big penis , that's part of the play rather than no , don't say that . So you want to make sure that you have a safe word in play so that if you're trying to say no , don't say that and it's not part of the scene , it is conveyed through that single safe word , you know , and and taking those safe words seriously , even even in a moment of degradation , even in a moment of telling someone that they can't handle something that always needs to be respected .
Annette BenedettiHow does this combine with if it does , mail chastity using a cock cage ? Is that ? Do these two come together at all ?
Lisa FinnAbsolutely . Um . So you know you can always integrate the idea of talking about size in this . But what you're doing with mail chastity , what you're doing maybe with Having your partner be a cuck , all of these things are you can't use your dick . And if we wanted to make it into SPH , you can't use your dick because it's too small for me . You can't use your dick because it's too tiny to get up . Even if they can , you know , if they can get an erection , they won't be able to in that Chastity device . So it plays into that role play .
Annette BenedettiWell , and you can make fun of them for needing a small Chastity device , like you know , I had to get the smallest one , or I had to write Exactly . Can we talk a little bit about cut-holding ? You brought it up and I was going to ask quickly define cut-holding I do have a whole pod podcast on that and then how it would play into cut-holding and also does not have to . It can just be sit on its own , but it can play into cut-holding correct ?
Lisa FinnYes , so this is very specifically for partners with Penis , very often for partners with the Penis that have a partner with Evolva . So the idea is is that the cut would watch as their partner gets fucked by someone else , usually someone else with a Penis , and maybe they touch themselves on the side , maybe they're in Chastity . But the idea is is that they cannot participate . They just have to sit there and watch their partner get fucked by somebody else , right ?
Annette BenedettiAnd so what ? How would you tie that into small Penis humiliation , Mm-hmm .
Lisa FinnSo you know , maybe making it a point that the reason why they're having somebody else fuck them is because that person has a bigger Penis than the Cuck . Maybe because they're saying that the Cuck can't satisfy them enough and that's why they needed to bring in another person . Maybe the Cuck can't play because he can't compare to the person that's fucking them . There are so many ways that you can bring this into play , even if you know . If it's been something that they want the other person to go ahead and the bowl , whoever it is , to go ahead and say something . Maybe the two of them can laugh at the Cuck touching themselves . Maybe they can go ahead and point out how small it is as they play , stare at them , make them feel vulnerable . It's just really a matter of integrating that language where size is the focus .
Annette BenedettiSo you can tie this into other kinks . If you have them , you can do it on its own . What else have I missed ? Any crucial questions for small Penis humility ? Oh , aftercare , Aftercare . We definitely need to talk about that . What are some specific aftercare techniques for people On both ends , both the person receiving the SPH and the person giving A lot of ?
Lisa Finntimes the aftercare for a scene like this , for any sort of humiliation play , is going to be getting back to that baseline through communication , through talking to one another , whether it's reassurance , whether it's taking some time to come back into yourself , checking in with your partner , asking how it was , seeing what they need in that moment .
Lisa FinnMaybe the person that is the dom needs to take that moment to tell their partner like , hey , I really care about you , I just wanna check that that was okay , that I didn't say anything that was too intense . And for the submissive , if they need to check in and say , but I do actually please you in bed , right , or whatever it is that they need here to be reassured , if they want to be reassured . If this is a fetish thing , someone may not ever wanna hear anything besides that they are a tiny little penis boy . So , having that negotiation , having that conversation to see what you need to get back to where you are , but as soon as that aftercare starts , the scene is open . This is no longer you playing into it , not even dabbling a little bit . This has ended . You are speaking realistically from your dynamic that you have day to day your so-called air quotes here , vanilla dynamic .
Annette BenedettiYeah , it's important to know those boundaries and to know that you don't just get to like randomly throw out phrases from this kink when you're walking , you know your partner pisses . Yeah , like your partner pisses you off , you don't get to call them a tiny penis boy while you're having an argument Like that's not what's happening .
Lisa FinnYou have a total power exchange thing , which requires a lot , a lot of negotiations . So if you're not sure , if that's a thing , it's not , it requires a lot of negotiation to get there .
Annette BenedettiRight right . So for our listeners and to my listener who made the request , I hope that this fulfills your request for information . But let's give them like you want to start tonight . You want your penis humiliated . You want to humiliate a penis tonight . What does that look like ? Let's give them their starter package .
Lisa FinnYeah . So , starting off , if you've never done humiliation play before , having that be the thing that facilitates the conversation . Ask your Dom what you would like them to say . So asking them hey , do you think I have a tiny little penis ? If that's what you want to hear , as a Dom , if you are the person that's requesting to say this , ask how they feel about humiliation . Ask how they feel about body humiliation , because , again , this could be a very , very heavy insecurity and you don't want to dive in , especially if it's not something that you have ever spoken about before . So take your time , segue in and then explore and make sure that if there are any boundaries to be set , you set them . If there's a safe word to be said , you say it , and if you need aftercare , you go ahead and discuss that .
Annette BenedettiAnd in this podcast there were great examples of how to just do it verbally and then work your way up to more physical measures and stuff like that . How to integrate toys toys , you could integrate dildos , cock cages , plenty of stuff like that .
Lisa FinnGo tune into the CBT episode for sure .
Annette BenedettiYeah , head back to the CBT Cock and Ball Torture for any of you who haven't listened .
Lisa FinnSo many acronyms , I know .
Annette BenedettiIt's safer to use them , though , than to say it , because you never know if YouTube or if any of the video clips or audio clips will get me in trouble , which they have .
Lisa FinnTrust me , I've been in Instagram jail so many times so frustrating .
Annette BenedettiWe're educating . We are educating , all right , so go ahead and give my listeners the rundown of where they can find information from you on Good Vibes and Beybland .
Lisa FinnYes , so Beybland you can find us online , beyblandcom , and we are also on social media at Beybland
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Lisa FinnCheers .
Annette BenedettiRing loop .