Exploring Pegging and Patriarchy

Speaker 1

Hi , this is Annette Finnadetti , your hostess for a locker room talk , and shots the podcast that likes to think of itself as the queer NPR of raunchy women's sex talk . You are about to sit in on the kind of conversations women have on their girls' nights out or behind closed doors , while enjoying delicious drinks and dishing about sex , think , fun , honest and feminist as fuck , and always with the goal of fighting the patriarchy , one orgasm at a time . Welcome to the locker room . Today's locker room talk topic is pegging and the patriarchy . That's right , we're talking about pegging today and I've got my guests Deanna and Lucy here . Our guest , deanna , who's here today , actually was part of the episode , the first episode of season two , which was about moms who like to bang , moms who like to fuck not milfs , but moms who actually like to get dirty in the sack , right , deanna ? Oh , yes , it was a fun conversation .

Speaker 2

It was so fun .

Speaker 1

And Lucy , lucy , who is best known as the maybe not best known , but is known to our listeners . The look she gave me . Who is known to our listeners as the Russian dominatrix . This is a perfect topic for you . And what is ? What's your favorite episode ? You've been on in the past , lucy .

Speaker 3

I feel like they're all fantastic .

Speaker 1

Right , right , toys , toys , toys is my favorite one . You've been on because you brought a spreadsheet of the toys .

Speaker 3

Indeed , I brought some samples today as well . Yeah , or pictures for future .

Speaker 1

So the shot for today's episode is the spicy butt crack and it tastes like Halloween . It is a damn good drink , if I do say so myself . It is a locker room talk and shot special . That's right . I did a lot of research and this cocktail is a twist on one I found , and it's a locker room talk and shots podcast special , and you can find the recipe if you head over to our website at lockerroomtalkpodcastcom , where all of our episodes and all of our recipes are posted .

Speaker 1

Let's raise our glasses , guys . Ready for the spicy butt crack ? Let's do this . Let's talk about pegging Delicious . It is so good , surprisingly delicious , surprisingly delicious and strong , so we'll be careful with it today . One of the first things that I think we need to address about pegging is what it is before we launch into our conversation . So you guys can tell me if you agree . I researched ahead of time and pegging it seems to specifically , for the most part , refer to sex between heterosexual couples , where the woman wears a strap on and penetrates the male's anus in an act of sex . Where are the woman basically fucks a man via their back end , their butthole .

Speaker 3

You know sex with a strap on ? Yes .

Speaker 1

But between and between heterosexual people , or I mean I could see it bisexual , but it's , it's not .

Speaker 3

Yes , the woman is wielding the penis and the gentleman is taking the penis , taking the penis right , all right , all right .

Speaker 1

So there you go , guys , guys go , that's . That's in case you're wondering what pegging is , that is your definition 101 pegging very clean and clear . Yes , I think I just want to do a little round , quick round table . Maybe each of you can take a turn , talk a tiny bit about your experience pegging and how you feel about it . Let's start with you , deanna . Are you an ?

Speaker 2

experienced pegger . I mean , I don't know if I call myself a professional , but I have had experience pegging . I almost think it might have been more enjoyable for me than them the person you pegged Because it gave a whole new sense of empowerment . Yeah , like having full control . I think sometimes when we have sex with men , even if they say they're giving us control , there's still that feel of kind of that male domination , right , and I think with pegging there's no way they can take any control of it , like you are fully in control , right , right , with their consent .

Speaker 2

Of course , of course , with their consent Right .

Speaker 1

So , lucy , I assume you've done it more than once .

Speaker 3

Yes , Time , or two or twenty , or over the years , many times , many times . But yes , I agree with Deanna , I think it is such an empowering activity that it is almost like it kind of blows your mind you're in such control and it's so just exhilarating .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 3

To do it and it's not even the pleasure necessarily of it . It's definitely the mental pleasure of it , not so much the physical , obviously , because you're not actually really getting anywhere right when you , when you peg someone , unless you have one of those fancy strap ons that also attaches a Hitachi magic one to it , and it's so much more fun .

Speaker 1

So I should be transparent . Now you know the expertise of our guests . I have never officially pegged a man , a partner . I have definitely participated in , but stuff which will be another podcast but I have never donned the dick and dove in all the way . So I'm actually excited about this podcast and I have my own questions . But in my research I did find that there were strap ons that included like powerful vibration for her pleasure while she was giving is giving him pleasure , right ?

Speaker 1

So none of us have tried that yet . Yes , yes , you have .

Speaker 2

So the harness I had actually or I still have has a pocket for a bullet , yeah , for a bullet .

Speaker 1

Nice , all right , here's a question that comes to my mind right away . So everyone at the table is bi correct . Correct , we're all bisexual women . Cheers to bisexual women . Cheers to that Cheers . So then , how would you say , does the equipment differ from the strap on experience with another woman versus like ? Are they the same ? Strap on Stianna's nodding .

Speaker 2

Well , honestly , I don't the . I think the bullet really doesn't come in play when pegging , I mean you don't usually use the bullet on yourself and I think it has .

Speaker 2

Like Lucy said , it has a lot to do with . It's more about kind of that mental stimulation rather than physical . It's a whole . It's a power play , yeah , like with a woman . It's about more the physical pleasure . I mean there's always some mental like . I always have to have some mental turn on whenever I'm with anyone , but with pegging I actually prefer pegging a man , I prefer not having the vibration Interesting Lucy .

Speaker 3

Definitely the mental high that you get from just doing it is lovely , but also when you do have an orgasm while pegging , my partner finds that exceptionally exciting , so that is more for them as well . Right , just be like just the fact that I can get off while pegging them Right . It's just so exciting for them as well . So also a mental thing .

Speaker 1

Yeah . So I guess my bringing up like the difference between penetrating a woman and penetrating a man is kind of an off question , because the power play dynamic with a man is absent when you have the strap on with a woman . Do you see what I'm trying to wrap my mind around ? I'm trying to differentiate pegging a man from using a strap on .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it's not the same at all , because with a woman you're not . There is no power play necessarily , unless it might have been agreed upon previously , but it's definitely . People are in it for the pleasure and the excitement of the activity . Where it's , for pegging situations and it's definitely more a power dynamic that you were looking for .

Speaker 1

Between heterosexual couple Correct . This is how it kind of becomes like a very heterosexual activity For sure , which is one thing like I really wanted to and why I've named this podcast . Pegging in the patriarchy is .

Speaker 1

As I was doing my research , I learned some really cool stuff , and I think by and large people are aware that men have a prostate that is very sensitive . I don't think people understand , though it's often throughout at least the literature I was reading it's equated to being the equivalent of the woman's G spot for a man . So I found that fascinating . But the thing that I found super sad about it is that there is a misconception and a myth that if a man wants to be pegged or be anally penetrated , it means he's gay or bi or flexible , which is not at all true , and so it keeps a lot of men from being willing to be vulnerable enough to participate in pegging , which then means they don't get to experience an orgasm via their G spot . And I mean it's such an interesting light to shine on how the patriarchy , which is inherently not only racist but homophobic , keeps even men from fully enjoying their sex life and feeling comfortable in who they are , who they are in bed and what they want in bed .

Speaker 3

For sure I definitely have . Also , like I guess I was lucky to have a companion who is so adventurous in all the things that we do in the bedroom . But yes , I feel like a lot of the time men are so concerned about their the power dynamic , like they do not want to lose the power and yet Because they think it's emasculating .

Speaker 3

Exactly . But yet I am on quite a few Reddit subgroups and all these men on there were like , yes , please , someone , anyone . I would like somebody to peg me and I would like somebody to a woman to give my power away to so I can be vulnerable and be on the receiving part of all sorts of attention . That is considered non-masculine Right , but it is . It's completely masculine , absolutely . I feel like there's nothing more empowering than to give the power away , like the fact that you are so trusting of whoever you are engaging in interactions with that you are willing to just surrender to the activity or the .

Speaker 2

It is empowering but at least it should be , and I think , you know , something that's equated with masculinity is bravery , and I think there's nothing more braver than being vulnerable .

Speaker 3

Right .

Speaker 2

Like that takes a lot of courage , and so that's absolutely . Why wouldn't that be masculine to do ?

Speaker 1

Right .

Speaker 2

Like that's the utmost bravery you can show is being as vulnerable as you can as a man . I love that .

Speaker 1

I love that perspective . I think the other thing that I came across during which resonated with me though I have not pegged , I've definitely had partners that have been open to being penetrated during our interaction together and it is like there is something women are kind of expected to be vulnerable , obviously , to men allowing you know these heterosexual relationships , allowing them to enter you , and oftentimes , in the heterosexual dynamic , the man's expected to be dominant , the woman's expected to be submissive and like hand over control , and that is like this act , that is a vulnerability that bonds a couple . Right Handing over this trust to a man . But why would it not be the same in reverse right To have a man hand over you know , trust and be vulnerable with you . It intensifies your connection and your love for one another . So I would even say , I would venture to say and it's gonna blow some people's mind that pegging is fucking romantic . Ooh , cheers to that .

Speaker 1

Masking and romantic . Not that I have fully experienced it again , but I have goals , hashtag goals , here . So another interesting thing I found out is that every person , regardless of gender , has thousands of nerve endings in their anus , the contract and release in pleasure every time you orgasm . When you orgasm , your little sphincter is working overtime down there . All of us women , men , guys . If you are a man who is heterosexual and you're just like no way .

Speaker 1

Uh-oh , my ass holes out only . All right , that's fine , but your little butt hole it says different every time you orgasm . That old guy is like come on , get me some attention . I thought that was a really interesting fact there it is . So cheers to the happy orgasming anus . Aw , little happy butt hole , old guy , old guy , mm . So here's something fun In our Facebook group , lock Room Talk and Shots Happy Hour , our members get to ask us questions when they know that a podcast is coming up and we let them know that we were going to be talking about pegging . And we have a member , liberty , who has several questions and we're going to choose a couple that we feel like should be answered by us on this podcast . So , deanna , can you read off maybe one of your top questions that you think we should be answering here ?

Speaker 2

How about ? How do I know if he's interested in it ?

Speaker 1

That's a great question . You are in a relationship with a guy and you've been going down on him and maybe 69ing and like moving your fingers towards that butt hole . Maybe he lets you touch it , maybe he lets you get a little tip in , and you're kind of like , hey , I want to take this to the next level , if you haven't spoken about pegging in advance , like how would you guys start to approach it and what do you suggest ?

Speaker 3

You should speak about it in advance .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , before you're in bed , before you're together , like when in a relationship , let's say in a relationship , heterosexual relationship at what point do you bring up butt ?

Speaker 2

sex . Well , I think when because you know what at first in a relationship sex is kind of you're feeling each other out Not everybody is up front with these , are my kinks sort of yours so you kind of like push limits with each other each time . But I think it's not a conversation to have during the act .

Communication in Butt Play in Relationships

Speaker 2

But maybe if you're like I'm going to explore in 69in , you do a little butt play and you notice that he doesn't stop and say what are you doing ?

Speaker 1

He just goes with it , or those knees drop just a little farther apart .

Speaker 2

I mean so after that encounter you can say so , did you like that ? Like talk about it , say that was something new I did , how did you feel about it ? Would you be up for exploring it further ? Like you can start the conversation that way , but it's definitely not something you know in the moment to whip out your harness and go , hey , you know , or do and deal with the fallout you may .

Speaker 3

As they run from the door , it's like come back . It's pink , I don't know Right .

Speaker 2

I mean , if you don't want to be brave and kind of explore , you can have a conversation when you should always be talking to your partner about what feels good to them and you can say you know , use the fact that you were given on this podcast . You know , I was . I heard this podcast and it said did you know that when you come , that you have all of these thousands and thousands of nerves and then that can start your conversations ? Then go , you know , how do you feel about exploring that ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , look , what we're trying to say is blame it on us , say I got tied up . Seems legit , yes In this fucking weird podcast with these like really weird , like kinky women and they were bringing this thing up . How do you find me like ? How do you feel ?

Speaker 3

about it , blame it on us . Also , you can just listen to the podcast with your companion as a precursor to your activity . Check out this podcast I'm listening to . Join me Right , yes , right , and then you can discuss it later and see if any of you are into this activity .

Speaker 1

But yeah , so here's Chiris , to just learning how to conversate with your lover .

Speaker 2

Chiris for communication Very important .

Speaker 1

Very important , all right . So here's a good question that kind of comes off of that , that topic that Liberty brought up . What if Because I've definitely been like early on in relationships with a guy and you kind of play with , like bringing up butt stuff , and they are just , you know , seem very closed off to it and you just want to be able to explore more Do you think that you can push that conversation , push those boundaries in a way that allows your partner to be more open ? Or do you think , like when they put up that like no , it's just like no I mean , because you know that a lot of that has to do with the brainwashing of the patriarchy is saying like Ask them why Like , why , why ?

Speaker 2

Why do you not want to explore this biological fact that there is pleasure there for you , right and hopefully ?

Speaker 1

Get curious , get curious .

Speaker 2

They're in a trusting relationship with you where they can say , well , I mean , I'm not gay . And then you can say , well , it doesn't mean you're gay , it means that you are seeking pleasure , which is a human right . Right , we all are seeking pleasure . I love that .

Speaker 3

For sure I recommend buying but plugs to start and then saying , hey , I have two of these , we should both try them and see where that goes .

Speaker 2

Oh , all right .

Speaker 3

Make it a couple of community activity . Throw one there , throw one there , see where that goes , but plugs everywhere .

Speaker 1

One everywhere , one everywhere . You and you and you . It's like Oprah , yes .

Speaker 3

Yes , absolutely .

Speaker 2

I like that idea .

Speaker 3

So buy one in a funky color just for fun with these rainbow .

Speaker 1

Can I put my vote in for suggestions for beginner butt plugs Glass gradual . There are glass butt plugs that have sort of a gradual . They're longer and they gradually get wider at the base . Holy shit , and Lucy just pulled out what ?

Speaker 2

That's a nugget .

Speaker 1

Soft squishy butt plug . This is interesting .

Speaker 3

It's good for men , it's for menly , men butt plug Because the curvature of it you'll see a picture on the wherever you Hits the magical prostate spot , and thus makes it more awesome .

Speaker 1

So right now , gripped firmly , being squeezed in my hand , is interesting . Maybe I need to . Is that like a stress ball ? Yeah , it's like a stress ball . I am holding a butt plug . I've never seen one like this before . I've seen one like that that it feels like a stress ball . It's quite , quite girthy , but sure , this is medium , medium , yeah , jesus . So we will post pictures of these butt plugs that Lucy has brought that are . There's a variety . The one that I'm holding is squishy here , deanna you take it .

Speaker 2

I'm going to take yours .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah . And then there's one , oh see . And then there's a black one that is actually firmer . These are short and what I like about them is they have a handle you can really grip to pull and how it when you need to . The final butt plug that I'm now holding I now have two in my hands . It's a rainbow butt plug , which I like , although for men who really don't want to identify as anything but straight , this might be a bad choice and it's sort of gradual , but it's also a little . It's softer than the glass ones . I'm suggesting so , but plugs are a nice entry into eventually no pun intended To eventually pegging correct . Is that what I assume ? Is that why ?

Speaker 3

Yeah . Yeah , you start with butt plugs and and then see if that is an acceptable activity and then you go from there .

Speaker 1

Right , right , I assume that . And again , I've never pegged . I assume that the what do you call ? The pin ? It do penetration part of the pegging , so you've got the . So when you peg like a dildo , Is it a dildo ? Do we call it that ? It's a different name so that men feel more comfortable .

Speaker 2

No , it's a dildo .

Speaker 1

It's just a dildo . Yes , so the dildo part of the pegging . Oh , there's a small one .

Speaker 2

Do you have a bigger one ?

Speaker 1

Lucy has pulled out some dildos that would go on your strap on . And then you know , and look , here's the thing , this is cool . Always want more dicks . One should always want more dicks , for sure , but what I think is really got dicks falling everywhere . What's really cool about the two dildos I have in each of my hands is one does not look like a penis , and I would think for some men this would be far more comfortable . It just looks like kind of a it's like a hot dog .

Speaker 1

Fun fact , fun fact , guys . When I was young and grade school and we did sex education , I was in private Catholic school . During sex education , my mother decided to be the sex educator , which is hilarious Looking back . When asked by one of the young girls who was like , well , how does a penis look when it gets hard ? Her response was it's kind of like a hot dog . So here is what I would say about one of the dildos I was holding in my hand it looks kind of like a hot dog , not at all like a dick , which might be more comfortable for you . So you know what Cheers to to butt plugs and dildos .

Speaker 3

So many of them now . So many , all right .

Speaker 1

Moving on , what is a Liberty had some other good questions . I mean , she really , she really came in hard with a list of questions that were all important .

Speaker 2

Oh , what if he has hemorrhoids ? That is a good question .

Speaker 1

Don't do it . Oh , can you Lucy Nothing .

Speaker 3

Did not have that experience yet .

Speaker 2

I mean , I haven't . I haven't had that experience , but thinking about anal sex right and hemorrhoids .

Speaker 1

Have you had hemorrhoids ? Well , you had anal sex , I have , so you can happen . You just have to really lubricate and be gentle and maybe choose a much smaller . I mean fortunately for the man , you can choose a smaller dildo .

Speaker 2

I mean , I think with pegging it would just be , maybe go for the hot dog size toys yeah . Yeah , the smaller hot dog size .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and so the dick shaped one yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah , smoother , less ridges .

Speaker 2

And it's up to you know . If it's too uncomfortable , of course I would hope that they feel they could express that whoa , whoa , whoa . That's not working and then you just go on to other things . But it is possible with some finesse and care and lube .

Speaker 1

Yeah , okay , that's great , that's great . So , hey guys , from the beginning of this podcast , I mean from its origins , from the first podcast , what have we said ? Bring lube . So here's to lube , cheers to lube . It makes all the fun things possible , especially anal lube .

Speaker 3

Don't use non anal lube .

Speaker 2

Oh yes , Good point , Lucy .

Speaker 3

Let's talk about lube . Let's talk about lube .

Speaker 1

Take it away .

Speaker 3

Lucy , so definitely find the most anal lube you can .

Speaker 1

So what is anal ? Is it a specific ?

Speaker 3

It is . Yeah , you can definitely buy it . It will say anal on the bottle . We actually have found anal lube that comes in a powder Powder , yeah , and then you mix it with water and then it pretty much turns into this viscous substance . That is amazing . It doesn't like go anywhere , it just kind of stays there , which is super nice .

Speaker 1

So there's a water-based lube and there is silicone-based , basically , you want the thicker .

Speaker 3

The thicker the better . The one that kind of stays there doesn't go anywhere and more is more .

Speaker 2

More is more . But they do have specific lubes that are for anal plating . So it says anal lube .

Speaker 1

All right guys , anal lube , that's how you get through hemorrhoids , and just maybe a tight butt . And sometimes a butt is tighter and sometimes it's looser . Right , it changes by the day a little bit . I mean , I'm just suspecting For sure . So being prepared for that kind of thing . So there you go , there's your answer to hemorrhoids . One thing I want to talk about I was a little bit surprised , so I have done a lot of research on women anal sex , like from a female's point of view , like how to receive it . And then I was looking up articles on pegging and here's something I found very interesting that wasn't I did not , at least in any of the articles about pegging that I read .

Speaker 1

They didn't address prep or like . So in Articles that I've read about how to get ready for anal sex , how to do anal sex for a woman , there's always that like if you , if you don't want poop to be an issue , how to prepare your , your buttocks , which is primarily by doing an In advance , and this is not like a full-on in a , but , you know , like kind of a lower , like tracks , like clean out , so that you minimize the chance of being embarrassed by poop , because butts , typically , are used for poop when they're not being used for anal pleasure . Not and not one of the articles that I read and I read I looked through , you know , on that Whatever was ranking on the first page of Google , they didn't bring it up when it came to pegging .

Speaker 1

That's unfortunate , I and I thought to myself well , that's interesting , I think , something that probably Men as well as women feel very self-conscious about , and what question that has to come up is what about poop ?

Speaker 2

I guess I'm not surprised that there isn't anything about how to prepare to be pegged , because once again , we're talking about the patriarchy we're talking about and we , as women , are always to prepare ourselves and we have to be clean . I'm pretty and pristine and men , you know what ? If you pull out and some shit comes out , you just got to deal with it because I'm man , baby , yeah , I'm so . I mean honestly . That's why it's not surprising to me right that we don't have to have that same consideration we have to give .

Speaker 1

Men seems essential . Yes , every article has something about lube , which is Right . That's like 101 stuff Mm-hmm , but I can't believe that men aren't as like , interested or concerned about , like that aspect of it . So I don't know , lucy , what are your thoughts on that ? Is that something prior to pegging that that you and your partner worry about , or what are your thoughts ?

Speaker 3

I mean , my partner is very courteous and does prepare for all .

Speaker 1

Oh right , activities , and that is just being courteous yeah and and it wouldn't .

Speaker 3

I don't even think it would , didn't even occur to him to not do because that has not come up Right years is like , hey , we're doing stuff , I'm like alright . He's like alright , I'll go prepare . I was like that's so nice , thank you , I appreciate it . And you know right as you should , because , come on , just , you know , be courteous to your , your female companion , so she doesn't have to deal with .

Speaker 1

Cheers to being courteous to your female companion .

Speaker 3

Situation . But also towels are your friend , just in case how about ?

Speaker 1

yeah , because no matter how much you prepare , right you ?

Speaker 2

never know shit happens .

Speaker 1

It does actually , but also .

Speaker 3

Yeah , just the lube is always stickier and Things yeah , it's a mess yeah maybe Towels . Sex is messy guys sure it just is .

Approach and Preparation for Pegging

Speaker 1

I think what would be really useful for listeners and people who are interested in pegging and curious about it is to talk about sort of the approach . Let's say you've been given the green light to like Give it a try and your guy is like you know , Clearly timid about it . He's like I'll give it a try , but he's like , if he about it , what are the steps that you would suggest in Preparing and entering , entering , preparing for entry preparing for entry .

Speaker 3

Yes , good way to put it .

Speaker 1

I Definitely think you should Prepare with the cleaning so you start with that , so you just talk to him about like that part of it , like I read , or this is what I do , before you fuck my ass . Because , let's be honest , guys , you know by the time you get to that your guys try to bang you in the butt at least once .

Speaker 3

Right and then you . I mean it also inquires like how is your digestive health ? Have you ? Had a salad recently .

Speaker 1

How about ? When was the last time you had a ball move ?

Speaker 3

Yes , Exactly all these very important questions . So none of this is coinciding with your activity and then definitely I would say , you start with a butt plug to let everything . Get kind of used to the whole situation and you can start with a small , small one and then do you like , do you like jerk them off ?

Speaker 1

Will you put the butt plug in ? Like , how about that ? Like , here's a good question . Yeah , what about , like , how do you make it pleasurable right off the bat ? Do you warm them up with a blowjob , do you ? What have you guys done to get to that point where he's like , alright , he's stimulated enough . Because I know on myself , before I move into allowing someone to like get to my butt , I'm like you have to have me really turn on . And then I'm like Okay , let's play , let's explore what so , whatever I Mean , maybe I mean don't just go in cold right well , no , there's four .

Speaker 2

I mean the way to think about it is think about , alright , when I'm going to be penetrated , aina Lee , what , what would I like ? Do I want someone just to shove their dick in my ass or , you know , do I want to have some intimacy and , you know , a rousal and connection , and so I think four plays really important . And it I mean not necessarily give him a blowjob , because that might not be what he wants , like maybe just some passionate Making out might be enough to get them there . But you Just like with yourself , you know no cues , and if you don't know cues , ask , ask , like . That's the thing I think people miss out on a lot is they tend to be tight lipped during intimacy and really you should never stop communicating Like . You should always be communicating and you know so communicate like are you ready for that butt plug ?

Speaker 1

Wait do you put your strap on on prior to even starting , or is that something that happens during , like ? Do you work up to putting it on after you know ? Yeah , when do you put your strap on on ?

Speaker 3

It depends on the situation . Yeah , sometimes it is exciting to just have it on as a precursor , or in other times you put it on later , as your activity progresses , cause it is not necessarily the most comfortable thing to just kind of walk around in Right ?

Speaker 1

No , do you feel sexy wearing it ? Yes , yes , you feel sexy wearing it , okay .

Speaker 3

I mean , and if you have like a very nice gentleman , he might give you a your strap on a small blow job .

Speaker 1

Well , wait , okay , can we ?

Speaker 3

talk about that . Can we cause ?

Speaker 1

I that is interesting , so tell me about that .

Speaker 3

I think it's also a power dynamic play for sure , especially if you are doing that and having them kind of service you the same way you do for them . Yeah , especially if it's .

Speaker 2

I mean , sometimes it's really for them about that being dominated thing , and so you know , when you tell them to suck your dick , that turns them on .

Speaker 1

That's what you say to them , yeah .

Speaker 2

Yes , okay , yeah , and it's Quite exciting . Yeah For everyone , for all parties involved .

Speaker 1

The smiles on these women . I mean , that is something that I think that people don't realize is this is very exciting to women , like For sure If you are a heterosexual man and you have all sorts of weird feelings around this . Ultimately , I would think that what brings you the most pride and feeling masculine and like a good lover is when you get your woman off and excite her and like just watching you guys talk about it , like the smiles and like you know , it's clear , it's exciting and exciting experience .

Speaker 3

And also , if your gentleman companion is still a little on the iffy side of the whole situation and doesn't necessarily want to be pounded , you can offer the option of a ride instead , where you can just be on the bottom and they can be on top of you and then they have a lot more control .

Speaker 1

Rather than .

Speaker 2

Okay , all right so positions .

Speaker 1

We're getting Positions . Let's talk about , first of all , cheers to like women getting off on this . This is as much as how awesome is it for men to get off on it , but women just really getting off on it ? So let's talk about positions . Obviously , I think the one that comes to mind first off is like doggy style , meaning the man this time has been to over and you're behind him . But what are some other positions you mentioned ?

Speaker 3

on top yes , just on top of writing the said penis that you provided or hot dog , whatever .

Speaker 2

And you know that's a good starting position . Wait , which witches the top writing ? Really that ?

Speaker 3

is not what I thought .

Speaker 2

Because they can ease into it how they're comfortable , cause when you're behind it's really hard to tell exactly the comfort level . So if you start that way you might start a little too much , but if they are writing you they can kind of ease into that , and so I think that's the best starting position For sure .

Speaker 1

Interesting , yeah , okay . So then what's another one that really has worked .

Speaker 3

Yeah , just the bent over one definitely works . You obviously have to account for height .

Sexy Time Furniture and Equipment

Speaker 3

I recommend pillows or wedges , depending on if you have any sexy time furniture .

Speaker 1

I assume you do have sexy time furniture .

Speaker 2

I mean , I'm just gonna say not everybody has sexy time furniture .

Speaker 1

Lucy , you should get it . It's great . Here's to sexy time furniture . May I have some Sundays .

Speaker 3

Some thinking mention everything .

Speaker 2

But yes .

Speaker 3

Pillows to get your height to the correct height . Definitely inquire how they're feeling . You can also do it kind of mission position with them . I mean obviously the normal way up . I also do like the edge of the bed for that one , because my bed is a good height , so it's quite convenient , explain that .

Speaker 1

What do you mean ? Edge of the bed ? I cannot .

Speaker 3

So you are standing and they are on the edge of the bed . Also perhaps stretch your glutes , ladies , oh yes .

Speaker 1

This is quite a workout , so pegging is quite a workout .

Speaker 3

Very much so yes .

Speaker 2

Everything . Let me tell you my first time I was up there .

Speaker 3

No , yeah , like hips can lock , like you can get injured , you feel like super mindful of what you're trying to do .

Speaker 1

So the perk ? Another perk for men is that women have the opportunity to see what you guys go through , what kind of workout you guys go through when you are banging us and we expect you to go harder , faster . Wait , don't come yet . I wanna go longer , exactly .

Speaker 3

Slow down .

Speaker 1

And suddenly we are in that position and we're like holy , you're back , you're lower back . I mean , I only know this from wearing a strap on with one hand .

Speaker 3

Your abs are on fire .

Speaker 1

That's a good workout .

Speaker 3

Yeah , can't walk the step . The stairs are like ridiculous .

Speaker 2

Your thighs are on fire .

Speaker 3

For sure , but yeah , so those are some of the positions . Yet again , height depending , you can do just against the wall or , if you have a yoga swing , those are fun too , all right go Back to the second furniture , what I have , a yoga swing . It's totally for yoga .

Speaker 1

You don't do yoga , uh-huh .

Speaker 3

I mean sexy time , yoga , same , thing , and then help me out here . I think I got my stuff I mean she's like wait , I'll write these down , Hold on .

Speaker 2

She surpassed me . Yeah , I am yeah .

Speaker 1

One of the fun facts about Lucy we kind of mentioned before and I do think I still have a video of it is Lucy has a sex equipment spreadsheet . If you see it on her computer you have to scroll . It's forever . It's 140 . It's way more than that , no , so probably between 100 something , Something yeah . She has quite . So she , because she has so many toys , she just drank that drink . I'm drinking to Lucy's spreadsheet . That spreadsheet , just like all the equipment , I'm so jealous .

Speaker 3

Also for back to penises really quickly and lube also really quickly . The Bad Dragon it is actually a website that sells quote unquote dragon penises , mostly because they're just funky shaped , but one of the things that comes in all colors , on quite a few sizes , up to ridiculous , which I think , is this big .

Speaker 1

When she says this big , it's like she's looking at two feet . I think it's a foot Foot okay , don't buy that one .

Speaker 3

But some of their penises come with a com tube in the penis , which is actually quite nice for anal sex because you can administer more lube . Oh genius .

Speaker 1

Yes , all right .

Speaker 3

To the procedure .

Speaker 1

Like Diana gets it right away . I'm like what ? So talk me through this

Exploring Pegging and Intimacy

Speaker 1

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Speaker 3

Lucy . So there is a pretty much it's trying to simulate like a coming of a like you can't Penis , yes , except for a woman . But there's just a tube in the middle of the dildo which you can use a syringe to add more lube , as the penis is inside wherever .

Speaker 1

Do you like ? You put it how do you get it to ejaculate ? Are there balls full of lube or like , whether you squeeze or what ?

Speaker 3

Unfortunately it's not that cool of a feature , but it comes with a syringe so you can just add it as you go . Ok , yeah , so it's not , I don't know . Yeah , I'll have to look at it , I'm curious . It's definitely a need feature , because sometimes your companion is like hey , need some more lube and instead of just removing everything and adding more lube , and then you working it back in . And just throw some lube as you go .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean , maybe that's one thing too to mention is that during anal sex , just yanking the dick out or the whatever dildo out and putting it back in is it's not a quick thing you do . You have to be very gentle For sure About both removing , and so I think that's something to be aware of is this is a gentle activity at first , at least until you both get to know what works for you and is safe . You can hurt your partner doing this ?

Speaker 1

Oh for sure , oh yes , by being careless and I cannot express that enough whether anal sex through pegging is woman too , man , which I think it's a little bit more dangerous in the sense that we don't have penises . We don't regularly insert our said cocks into someone , so there is a little bit of like . Get to know what that feels like If you're not bisexual , like all of us are , so we have experienced strap-on sex with a woman . If you have never had strap-on sex and you don't know , like how to insert yourself , being like obviously not a real bodily appendage into someone else , like it is something you need to take time with . Learn what works for your partner and , especially if you're like at the first time with your guy and he hasn't had anal play before , you have to be very careful because you can tear and hurt , just as can happen to a woman .

Speaker 2

And you don't have like that flesh with feeling so you can sense kind of what's going on in there because , you know , when someone tenses up , yeah , they can , and they're like , oh , are you okay ?

Speaker 1

Right .

Speaker 2

You don't have that ability to go . Oh , are you okay , because you feel some tensing to check in . So you really have to be checking in and being very aware of other cues they may give you .

Speaker 3

And also just make sure your partner realizes that he can stop you at any point and have him understand that , hey , I have no feeling in this fake penis that I am wielding and you need to make sure that you are always okay and nothing is hurting or anything like that . You need to make sure I stop or whatever . It might be Okay , slow or fast or whatever , just always communicate .

Speaker 1

So this is a topic that we can literally talk for days about , and we'll have to do a part two , three and four , probably , about it , but I want to end with surprising things you learned from pegging , like when you got into or maybe when you first . What are some things you didn't expect . What are ? We already mentioned the workout , but are there any other experiences that came from it that you're just like wow , that surprises me . D'amma .

Speaker 2

I think what was most surprising was how hard the mental stimulation was , how hard it was , how hard it was , like it was a I mean I don't mean like difficult , hard , but impactful , like the force of it . Because , you know , I was like , oh , I'm doing this for him and I just thought it was something that I wasn't really going to get much out of . But that was okay , because what I was getting out of it was giving this to my partner who was wanting the experience , but I almost think I might have gotten just as much or more pleasure out of it . And it was purely like it wasn't really physical , like there was nothing really happening to me , but yet I still came and I felt a feeling I've never felt before . You've bor it . Yeah , it was the most amazing feeling , like and , to be clear , it didn't make you feel like your partner was any less masculine .

Speaker 1

Let's be really clear about that . Absolutely not , but I felt very empowered .

Speaker 2

I've never felt that much empowerment and intimacy before . What about you , Lucy ? What are ?

Speaker 3

I had a similar experiences as you did , diana , and it was like just blows your mind . But also another thing I find very interesting is the fact that when your partner is in a relationship with you and when your partner does have an orgasm as being penetrated , as I understand and have been told it's like three times more amazing than the regular orgasm that you get , because that was via their G-spot , or what ?

Speaker 1

is also called the P-spot .

Speaker 3

I think that that is probably a small incentive for all you people who don't necessarily are not quite sold on the whole situation yet . But , as I was told , the orgasms are at least three times more intense .

Speaker 1

So can I ask you guys this how often do men come , oftentimes while being penetrated ? Is that a common thing , like them coming during anal penetration ?

Speaker 3

At least for us . You need some stimulation of the penis as well .

Speaker 1

And do you do that at the same time ? Do you ever like read , read ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , for now , or if they are writing you it's a lot easier or if your boobs are big enough , you just kind of throw it in the boobs section , Deanna .

Speaker 1

I would not do that . I have nothing for you . Oh , that's okay . So I was going to ask you some different ways to stimulate the penis , but so you just threw that out there . If they are on top , then you can use your hands or you do the reach around . Yeah , yes , definitely .

Speaker 2

Or even like a vibrating cock ring . Oh yeah , that works , oh on them . And then you don't have to do any work .

Speaker 1

You just slap it on there . I wouldn't slap it on , I'd slide it on .

Speaker 1

Slide it on there . Yes , bravo , bravo , all right , here is to pegging guys . Cheers , cheers , cheers , cheers . If I didn't want to do it before , I definitely do now . We're going to wind this down . Here's what I want to say . We are , as soon as we're done here , going . I'm going to dig through Lucy's bag of trip tricks . I'm going to take pictures . We're going to post them so you can kind of see what some of this equipment looks like . However , if you want to see those pictures and videos or any extras , you're going to have to go to Facebook and you are going to have to join our group , which is Locker Room Talk and Shots Happy Hour . You can find it at our Facebook Locker Room Talk and Shots podcast . You can also head over to our Instagram page , which is Locker Room Talk and Shots , just to follow us there . We post some fun extras as we go along . If you want to access our podcast or try some of our yummy recipes for yourself , you need to head over to our website , which is LockerRoomTalkPodcastcom .

Speaker 1

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Speaker 3

Cheers .

Speaker 1

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