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S7E10 - Luke 5:12-26 - Jesus' Miracles - Touching the Untouchable
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A crowded house. A blocked door. Four determined friends hauling a paralyzed man onto a roof, tearing through clay and tile, and lowering him right in front of Jesus. Moments earlier, a man “full of leprosy” knelt in the dust and whispered the boldest prayer he could muster: “If you are willing, you can make me clean.” Two scenes, one thread—Jesus moves toward pain with power and compassion, and he doesn’t stop at symptoms. He goes straight for the heart.
We walk verse by verse through Luke 5:12–26 to trace how cleansing, forgiveness, and authority collide. The leper doesn’t just want relief; he wants to be clean, able to enter God’s presence again. Jesus reaches out and touches him—defying expectations that uncleanness spreads—showing that true holiness restores rather than recoils. Then Jesus sends him to the priest, honoring Levitical law while revealing a greater authority. And just when the crowds swell, Jesus withdraws to pray, choosing dependence over platform and reminding us where lasting power is found.
Inside the packed house, persistence takes center stage. The friends’ faith looks like action, and Jesus responds with a shocking first move: “Your sins are forgiven.” The scribes bristle—only God can forgive sins—and Jesus meets their thoughts with the title Son of Man, echoing Daniel 7. To prove his authority on earth to forgive, he commands the man to rise, and he does, immediately. Awe, fear, and praise flood the room as a community watches forgiveness turn into footsteps.
Along the way, we press into three anchors—purpose, persistence, and practice. Purpose asks what Jesus is really after: not just comfort, but communion with God. Persistence asks how far we’ll go to bring ourselves and our friends to grace. Practice asks whether we’ll obey quickly and return to prayer like Jesus did. We end with three questions to carry into your week: What condition are you hiding that Jesus is willing to touch? Are you the paralytic, the Pharisee, or the roof friend today? If you’ve been forgiven, why are you still on the mat?
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Audio Note & Welcome
SPEAKER_03Hey Lifehouse family. This is Nate. Wanted to take a moment, and we're so thankful that you take the time out of your day to listen to the Life Talk podcast. Just wanted to give you a heads up. But the content is still everything you expect from the podcast. So we hope you bear with us. Please forgive the issues this month. We are working on it and we will have it worked out shortly. So again, thanks for listening and hope you enjoy the episode. What's up, Lifehouse Family? Welcome back to the Life Talk Podcast. We are always so blessed that you take the time out of your day to tune in and join us. And continuing our journey through Luke, we are in the month of March and rocking and rolling through chapter five. I'm I continue to be joined. We we assemble all-star teams each and every week. And uh and this month, I am blessed that have back with me Jason Kreither. We're racking up another episode on the Elder Scoreboard. Jason, how's it going, man? It's going well, another tally. Continue back from the sabbatical, or like more like the bad news bears, though. Not really. Bad news bears all stars. Yeah. All relatives. Yeah. And Rico DeSilvo's back with us. Man, we're on a run. You're on like sixth in a row here. So yes. And if we count your testament, it's like seven in a row on the Lifetalk podcast. It is gonna be like Hal Ripkin, like the Iron Man of the Lifetal.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna have to be here. I have to be careful with the dangerous Lord, allow me to be there with you again.
Themes Of Purpose, Persistence, Practice
SPEAKER_03That's right. Don't tear ACL or anything on us. Not have to sit out a podcast. But man, we do have fun on the podcast. It's great to have you guys with us. And so uh, if you were with us last week, we looked at really discipleship, Jesus's calling. And so we kind of jumped over chapter five, verses 12 through 26. But Rico's gonna take us through like two amazing stories here that really tell us a lot. So, what do we see here in starting in verse 12, Rico?
The Leper’s Plea For Cleansing
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we're gonna see uh two two sessions here, uh, and we're gonna see Jesus, uh, the power of who he is. Theme for our viewers or listeners. Uh if you take the nose, we might help you through this process. So the three themes that we have the purpose, persistence, and practice. And what we're gonna see here, we're gonna see in the first uh session, we're gonna see how Jesus cleansing men from leprosy. And we're gonna go in entails what that means at that time. For us, leprosy is just how deceased can be curable. In those times, leprosy was isolation. You cannot be anywhere, nobody. In some cases, scripture says it's only for from a miracle you will be restored, and you got process to do that. So, what we're gonna do is we're gonna go ahead and read the first session, which is gonna be Luke 5, from 12 to 16, and then we'll go ahead and revisit verse by verse and see the observation that happened there. So I start in verse 12. And it happened when he was in a certain city, that behold, a man who was full of leprosy saw Jesus, and he fell on his face and implored him, saying, Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean. Then he put out his hand and touched him, saying, I am willing to be cleansed. Immediately the leprosy left him and be charged him to tell no one, but go and show yourself to the priest and make an offering for your cleansing as a testimony to them, just as Moses commanded. However, the report went around concerning him all the more, and a great multitude came together to hear and to the healing by him of his affirmities. So he himself often withdrew into the wilderness and prayed. This is a very amazing passage that we can even see right off the back. We can see something that Jesus has done, but the observation here, before we dig in, is how he exposed this power in front of people, and then he withdrew himself back to his father before we dig in. Any observation from that passage.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think, man, there's a whole lot in this passage, and you know, the attitude of the leper. And it says he's full of leprosy, like he says, not just like a little patch, like a chicken pox kind of, you know, a little bit of acne or something. He is full of leprosy. So it's like man is in serious condition, and and just his posture coming to Christ of, you know, if you're willing, like he recognizes the power of Christ and seeking humbly for Christ to act in his life. I think like we talked last week, being caught, you know, it has to humble us, you know, coming to him in that way. And so I think those are just some initial thoughts I have, you know, kind of as you were walking through that.
Touching The Untouchable
SPEAKER_01Two things that kind of stand out for me. First, he asks Jesus, if you're willing, you can make me clean. He doesn't say you can heal me, he says you can make me clean, which is totally a throwback to the Levitical Walls and cleansing. But being unclean more than anything else made you unable to go into the presence of God. You could not be near the can, you could not be near the tabernacle. So what this guy is saying is, I want to be able to draw close to God again. I can't. I'm unable to, but you can bridge that gap. You can make me clean and able to again go into the temple. He couldn't go into the temple, he couldn't go to the feasts, the festivals, he could not get close to God. And so he says, You can make me clean. And there's so much like that is packed into that request. And then, second of all, I thought really, really interesting. The very end, Jesus will withdraw to these deserted places of this wilderness and pray. The wilderness over and over and over again in scripture is a place that brings you face to face with your mortality, with the fact that this earth is a rough place to live in. That we've we've kind of created these bubbles of like creature comfort. But really, you get out away from that. You know, you go outside of town a couple miles and you're in the wilderness, and you realize it is not easy to survive out, right? So, like Jesus was continuously separating himself and bringing him back to a place of desperate need of the father. And he prayed, right? So like he was constantly removing himself and putting himself in positions where he was face to face again with this desperate need for for the father.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think that's that's a good point. I mean, you know, it's a good thing I thought about, but just thinking about seeing the the reality of Jesus having the power, right? I mean, I think with to heal, right? That he is the one. And I think we'll see that throughout the rest of the math uh of Luke, right? Five and then six, like you see kind of that reality that Jesus isn't Jesus is the one, right? And this kind of that telling, and he tells it, it's interesting that he tells the man, like, tell no one, like don't go and just like tell everyone, but tell no one. But then the reality that when you encounter Jesus, you can't not tell anyone. You know, like that's something you have to do. And so I think that's an interesting, like he said, tell no one. I mean you would think like I did some crazy, uh, you know, tell everyone, like you bring him in, draw him in, like, yeah, tell no one. But yeah, uh, he says that basically a multitude, like so many people still heard, and then they he he knew that he was being it was being reported about says a broad and great crowds gathered to hear him and to be healed, like they seen and it's like, man, I want what happened. Like, but then yeah, he withdrew out. So it's a yeah, and script for that.
Law, Temple, And True Cleanliness
Withdrawing To Pray
SPEAKER_00And we will see how this developed, how we how we dissect the scripture and how he's so affected to us that we read it, that we put ourselves in that time, and and for us to remember that hey, this this man has power. This meant that he will do something for somebody, and everyone is affected. And regardless of your opinion, he did what he did. We walked to verse 12, and as he told is that men full of leprosy. You mention it, it's a fool, it's not just half, it's full of leprosy. For the hearer, if you want reference, uh you can direct yourself to Leviticus uh 13 and 14, and it shows you exactly the process of an individual that has this kind of condition. What they need to do, what it needs to happen in order for that individual to be restored, what are the people who need to verify that individual in order for everybody to be saved? So here what we see in verse 12 that leprosy is affected not socially, spiritually, and relation in life, right? Something that is put away from anything that we know. And the observation is how somebody who has this condition approaching Jesus with a risk of knowing that anybody can be affected by it, but no, because that is Jesus, he is gonna do something about it. That's what I see here in the scripture. Jumping to 13. So something that we see here is Jesus stretched out his hand and touch him. I can I I have to put this into context because we're looking at somebody who's full of leprosy, that means that if you touch that individual, you might be contracted by it. Jesus himself, the one who has power, he reaches out and touches the individual. Exegeticum way to dissect this is that Jesus touches the untouchable. This is powerful to me. Why? Because no matter what circumstance we have in the now, Jesus can fix it. If he fixes it then, he can fix it today. If he fixes it today, he might change it tomorrow. He might fix it tomorrow, he might not, but if you're willing to present yourself and allow him to do it, he definitely gonna show who he is. And we can see here that Jesus said, I will answer your willingness. Just like you stated, he did not ask, will you please? Will you think this can be undone? No, hey, I know you can do it, and you know, because I saw what you thought in your heart, I will do it. This is a faith thing issue in where you have to step in in full confidence that he will give you an answer. It's a radical compassion that we see Jesus here in verse 13. He's the authority over any ceremonial law, the law back then, you have to go through a process of things, conductions in order for that individual to be cleansed. Mind you, died in Jesus got to not die in the cross here. So for everybody inside there, it was like, wow, is the I have on me. And we're gonna see that in a second, that everybody was at awe. At the same time, you do have a decision to make on your heart if you're gonna follow, you're gonna submit, or you're going to doubt and you're gonna go against what you think is normal. Verse number 14, he mentioned here, go and show yourself to the priest. Back again to Leviticus 14. There is a Mossianic law that Jesus upholds. He knows that he do not need to do that because he is the man, but because the people are that time, he needs to show them that there's principles to get to the stuff that he's doing. Go ahead and practice your rituals, go to the priest, the priest is gonna examinate you, the priest is gonna go to the city, he's gonna go ahead and make you alive again, and it's just the verification process that he shows in verse 14 for the testimonial from the religious leaders. They have to be told by a religious leader, hey, you're good to go, you go back into society. Verse 4, 15 and 16. But he will withdraw to desolate bad places and pray. I don't want to coswight here because this is something that we don't see in our time now. Everybody has a platform, everybody wants self-glorification, and sometimes it you know, even the scriptures say if you get your self-grification here on earth, don't expect it to be in heaven. So, some of us we must come to realization that we cannot do anything apart from our father, and our reward is in heaven, our glorification is in heaven, our fame is in heaven, our dependency is in heaven, is with our father. So, my observation, my calling, my charge to people is are you withdrawing in prayer to spend enough time with the one who gave you your gift, your power, your restoration, everything, and your purpose. Any observations on that?
Introducing The Paralytic Story
SPEAKER_03I mean, a lot you can say to just the need to withdraw, you know, we're in a very distracted society. And that even jumped out at me as you were walking through it, you know, Jesus asks for a response, you know, from the leper. Go. I mean, you know, we know Jesus didn't come to abolish the law. Like we can't be saved by the law, but we talked about last week being changed. You know, he's saying, go and you know, fulfill these things, be faithful, respond in being you know different in that way. So seeing obedience that Christ is asking for. And you know, he doesn't make it contingent, like, well, I'll cleanse you if you do these things. You know, he he cleanses, he heals. I love what you said about you know being willing to touch, being willing to draw near. We know he doesn't have to, but in this case, it's so symbolic that he's willing to, you know, he could do it by his word, but in this case, he's showing like no entering into this uncleanliness. But then the leper responds, goes to the priest, fulfills those things. So I think that's really cool that you walk through them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, cleansing, just going back again to this uh ritualistic idea that we see in the Old Testament in the Levitical law. The law was very, very clear. And and even in Haggai, I was searching for it here, there's a point where God tells Haggai to go and ask the priests for a ruling, says if the man is carrying consecrated meat or you know, holy meat in the fold of his garment and it touches bread or stew or wine or oil, does it become holy? And they're like, No, no, like a holy thing doesn't transfer its holiness to some something that's just like normal. And then he says, Well, what if what if someone unclean comes in contact with those things? And like, yeah, then they become unclean. If something that's unclean comes in tapp contact with something that is neither clean nor holy, it becomes unclean. And so you couldn't just come up and walk up and touch something unclean, but Jesus does. The only way to take something that was unclean and make it clean was to like sprinkle blood on it. That was the only way, right? There was this washing and there was this sprinkling of blood, and it was essentially saying that only something that is truly pure can make an unclean thing clean, right? You can't just want it to be, right? Like that's not the way it works. So the fact that Jesus touches this guy and Jesus doesn't become unclean, in fact, it's Jesus making him clean is a huge moment. You're going, well, who is this guy that can do that?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
Friends Who Wouldn’t Quit
Your Sins Are Forgiven
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I mean, I think I think we don't necessarily know the full split of left person today. And like that's I can I just guess that maybe 99.9%, if not 100% of the people listening to this haven't encountered it. Uh it's not something that we really encounter. And so I think I would maybe encourage it. It's it's a very, it's a very, you know, strong thing. Like there's pictures of it online. If you want to look up and see what it was like, you can look up leprosy and see the pictures, but it degraded bones and there was skin boils and all these things that like they were they were people in rough circumstances who, you know, in that that time, like you said, Jason, were unclean. But yet I I can just imagine, I mean, in that being kind of cast out of the camp, and you know, like you said in Leviticus, there's all those kind of areas. If they want them to be clean, you gotta do this and this many days and this many times and all those things. But I can just imagine because this was not a really curable thing in the moment, there wasn't really that kind of cleanliness that you could restore cleanliness back to it. So this man who knows how long he's had leprosy for, could have been outside the camp for years, right? Not having that interaction, not having that husband, not having right in so what Jesus what did Jesus do? Like Jesus knew exactly what he needed. Because I think the touch is important for the aspect of cleanliness, but I think it's also important for the tuck for the aspect of just relationship. Like that, like that that man had deficiencies in so many ways relationally. That Jesus in the moment like addresses and comforts and and comes near. It's not just like, hey, be clean and go by your way, but like, man, I'm with you. Like I'm I'm healing, I am you know it's it's more than just a transactional, but it's a relational thing that Jesus chooses to do. And it's profound, like it's per super profound that He and because when you think about the reality of who Jesus is, right? Like Jesus, the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, the Alpha and the Neg, like the one who is you know just uh supreme, right? Like we we see that in like I mean you can look in Colossians and we can see just and listen through Hebrews and all these different areas. Like that's the Jesus who came to earth, like and lived a life like this, doing things like this for the sake of people, you, me, like all of us, and these people. And I think that's such a profound thing to think that our our God would do as he does, right? And he says in Mark 10, 45 that he came to serve, not to be served. Then we see when he gets on his knee and he washes the disciples' feet, like he's doing these things that are profound and are not just like, oh man, yeah. We have a God who's so lofty and high and cares for no one but himself, he cares for his people, and he descended for his people, and then you know he's coming again for his people. And so you kind of think through all those lines, and it's it's a profound thing, the fact that he would do that relationally and then physically.
Confronting The Pharisees’ Hearts
SPEAKER_00It's it's amazing. We're gonna see uh uh a different level in the sessions in the second session. Um, but just to leave that session uh for now, again, the points of persistence in brokenness, the purpose in Christ with the compassion that he has, and the practice of obedience and prayer. That's that's exactly what we get from those verses in that in that verse in that chapter. Jumping to section two, we're gonna read out of Luke 5, 17 through 26. And here we're gonna see how Jesus heals the paralytic um individual here. I'm gonna start reading from uh verse 17. Now it happened on a certain day as he was teaching that there was the Pharisees and teachers of the last sitting by who had come out from every town in Galilee, Judea, and Jerusalem, and the power of the Lord was present and healed them to heal them. Then, behold, man brought out a man who was paralyzed, who they sought to bring in and lay before him. And when they could not find how they might bring him in because of the crowd, they went up to the house top and lay him down with his best bent to the tidy into the midst before Jesus. When he saw their faith, he said to him, Man, your sins are forgiven. And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this man who speaks blasphemous bluffies who can confer forgive sins but God alone? Who can confer sins but God alone? But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answered and said to them, Why are you reasoning in your heart? Why, which is easier to say your sins are forgiven you, or to say, light up and walk. But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins. He said to them to the man that was paralyzed, I said to you, Arise and take up your bed and go to your house. Immediately, verse 25, immediately he rose up before them and took up what he had lain up and departed on his way from his own house, glorifying God. And they were all amazed. And they glorified God, and they were filled with fear, saying, We have seen strange things today. This passage right here, this is where we can see faith in action, but it's more provocative for the people who call themselves righteous. Any observations before we dig in that you may point out?
Son Of Man Authority
SPEAKER_03Yeah, this is another really important passage in terms of you know one of the apologetic things. Jesus never claimed to be God. Well, I mean, this was an explicit claim. You know, he's even showing his power, but even before I show the healing power, you know, your sins are forgiven. So I mean the Pharisees right here recognize, you know, like if you're not God, you can't forgive sins. So and this is huge for any of those, you know, you hear in other faiths that want to deny the deity of Christ. Well, this is a passage you can take them to, so especially for our listeners if you've heard that. And of course, we can go through John and the I Am statements, but it's throughout the gospels. So because others, oh, only John says that. No, right here in Luke. And there's other places, you know, where Jesus accepts worship and many other things, but I just want to point that out because that's a huge thing in our faith. And so I know you're building into that and that act of it. And, you know, Jesus also seeing the thoughts of the Pharisees as well as understanding the faith that just brings out this powerful, you know, scene that we're seeing here and what Christ is doing and revealing their greatest need. You know, we kind of talked about that with the leper in the first section that you had, but the greatest need is the forgiveness of sins, the greatest need, like Jarvis kind of like that relationship more than the physical cleansing. And so a lot of times we miss that sometimes.
Rise, Take Your Bed, Go
Awe, Fear, And Public Praise
SPEAKER_00Which it is gonna indicate in the scripture of how it's gonna play it out. And we're gonna go verse by verse very quickly, not not to dismiss what scripture meant and what it says, but I want to touch on a very important point that is going to stick with the hearer and to hear you guys' input. Now, for instance, let's run to verse 17. The power of the Lord was with him to heal. This is amazing because even from the beginning, uh, we can read that there are the Pharisees and teachers from many places. So if you look at the environmental or who was there, automatically you know there were people from statue, people who know scripture, people who will claim to be better than everybody, but the Lord had power to heal. And we can see here in verse 18 and 19 when the man was carried, uh, the paralyzed man, low him to the roof. If you know the the to put it in context, how the scenario played out, yeah, the houses in the first century homes were built by clay. And you know, the tiles in the roof, what what have you. So I'm as I'm picturing it, it's not something that you just can go up, lay them down, open. No, you have to dig in, you have to tamp whatever necessary to break that tile in which literally tells me this man carries somebody who needs deliverance. And it put myself into perspective. These individuals, the individual who need help, have people on his side that they believe that this man can kill whatever is going on with him. This is a bold statement for all of us who we need to see people in trouble, and we see people who we need to bring into faith, or we see even believers that we need to confront of their sins to go ahead and be boldy asking and presenting ourselves in uh in a way that we can get uh his attention because even the scriptures that he saw what he's doing, and the whole scene as he coming down and went ahead and he founded what the faith and he needed to be restored. And what we see Jesus doing in verse 20, Jesus saw their faith. Jesus saw that in even in the in and I can see me putting myself in the structure. I can see Jesus teaching, and I can see Jesus see the motive of two men bringing the individual up out of the struggle, is not what the equipment that we have now. He could easily say, Hey, I want to start forming and let me go outside, let me heal them. No, but he knew that there was something in there that they required to do in order for that individual to draft to me on my feet, and I healed them. So he saw that faith and he said, Hey, because of your faith, the first thing he said, this is what amazed to me, and this is what amazed the whole population. He mentioned your sins are forgiven. He did not attack the problem yet. He said, His sins are forgiven. Exegetical way to describe this is Jesus addressed the sin first. Forgiveness is deeper than the need and the divine authority that he has to forgive. This is an observation in where we're gonna see in the next three verses that Jesus does something, he's setting the stage for the people who are already gringing in their heart to say something, and we're gonna see how Jesus stopped that before that. But there is something implication in here that Jesus stopped their faith before he can do what he needed to do, what we come to him first. Any observation from that?
Personal Challenges And Next Steps
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, I I I think yeah, those are good thoughts that you had just thinking through like the way that the first like house has been built. I mean, I think we think of it today like, oh, yeah, just go through the back door or you know, all those things, but I think this took this took time, this took effort, this took you know more than than just that. And so I think like I mean imagine being in that room and seeing kind of pieces of the scene like start to fall in and you're wondering like what's happening, what's what's going on. And and yeah, I think like you you said, just the reality of him addressing, and Nate kind of talked about it too, him addressing the greatest need, their sin, right? Like even if they were never healed physically, the fact that their sin was forgiving is all the people really need knowing that their life, right, is not just ending in this in this and it's not of eternity, but it's living on forever. And so then the statement that I mean, yeah, I think it's similar. Like Satan that they said is just uh we can emphasize this, man. It shows us who Jesus is.
Closing Reflections & Sendoff
SPEAKER_00A hundred percent. Yeah, a hundred percent. And we we can dive in into the meat and potatoes of this section because verses 21 and 24, it teaches how the Lord knows everything. In the first, we see Jesus perceive the Pharisees and describes the way they were thinking in their hearts. He he saw the accusation that they were doing in their hearts, he saw the motive that they were saying in their hearts before even speaking. So the whole verses 21 through 24, who can forgive sins but God alone? That's what the Pharisees are saying at that time. So Jesus, strictly out of the burden of their own hearts, he paused, he paused, and he mentioned, hey, this is something that it was already written. And for you, the listener, you can go back to Daniel 7, verses 13 and 14. Now, this is the messianic authority in where the the mission of the vision of Daniel, he said, I was watching in the night the vision, and behold, all one like the son of men coming with the clause. Let me tell you guys something. This is the first time in scripture that we can see Jesus claiming he is the son of man. This is the introduction of a messiah, uh messianic uh profound way that was in scripture before. This is something that came to life. So for the Pharisees to hear something like that, they knew they knew Daniel what the vision of Daniel was. So they already implicated in the horrors that are like, hey, who he thinks he is, right? And we can automatically, uh, after we see verse with 25, he said immediately he rose, right? So when he when our Lord Jesus said something that is going to affect in our life, it's immediately it immediately is do not put it on hold, it's immediately he's it you can see immediate restoration, public validation at that time, and we can see that because of that, people are going to glorify the Lord, right? It's it's so amazing for us to see that in scripture. Why? Because we have the scripture to read of what happened in those days. Okay, that's number one. Number two, how doubtful of us not to believe what already happened. They didn't have this book before that. They do have people that came to speak from the Lord. They have the Lord Himself at that time. So this is a challenge for all of us. Are we walking the walk? Are we doing what we're supposed to be doing? Are we distracted by what the world is saying because they start smart and we're not dependent on what scripture says? Which brings to the last point of this chapter, verse 26. We have seen extraordinary things today. This is something that have never seen before. This is something unprecedented. I mean, you have Jesus coming in the place and healing people and seeing, I'm the son of man. This is an individual that is that knows the heart of the person and speak to it, and in the way that he's speaking, they're still upset at him. Then put yourself in that situation. If you have the power, if you're listening to this, if you have the power to hear what somebody else is looking at you from the heart, how does that play out? Well, Jesus did, and he shows in that way. Everybody was with fear of the amazement, right? And this is something that we can take to the back that there is nothing, nothing more important to validate who Jesus is, his purpose, his calling, he what he wants us to do. And we're gonna extract extract some points here from the second text and with the purpose, the persistence, and the practice. Jesus came to forgive before he came to face.
SPEAKER_03I think that's you know, Jesus isn't just a good model. You know, some people want to say, oh, well, Jesus was a role model or whatever. Like that's so much deeper, like you said, especially leaving off on that last. Like, we have seen extraordinary things. We didn't just see a good guy, you know, here we saw God, we saw things. Only God can do, we saw miracles. And I know this is ultimately going to point to the death, bury, and resurrection of Christ, like Christ proving who he was. He kind of this is a I think a mini picture of it's like I'm forgiving sins and then healing, proving my power. Well, he's going to forgive the sins of all mankind and die for us, be buried, and be raised from the dead. So I think even just this is a foreshadowing and also the extraordinariness of it. So you should not diminish Christ as just a prophet or a good dude. You know, like this is so much deeper than that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 100%. So I'll yeah, Rico, I love that you brought up the son of man idea. And this is one of those places where Jesus, knowing who's there, the scribes and Pharisees, they know scripture very well. They know what Son of Man means if it's the Messiah. Right. So when he drops that language on them, he is putting them in a corner and saying, right now, like you have to make a decision of who you think I am. Right. He could have just gone about his day and and healed people, and they could have thought, well, he's he's a good guy, and he's he's maybe sent by God, and maybe he has his healing power. But but he says, no, actually, I'm presenting myself as the Messiah, and now you have to make a choice. Either I am who I say I am, or I'm a faith and I'm a fraud because I'm saying that I'm forgiving sins, right? And they rightly pick up that only God can do that. Right. When they say only God can forgive sins, they are saying something that is true, right? They recognize only God can forgive sins, and he just said, I've forgiving your sins. So he's backed them into a corner and has essentially put them to a decision. Who, who am I? Whereas in some of these other situations, Jesus kind of like leaves it up to the crowd, and who who they they get to maybe make some subtle decisions, maybe follow them a little bit longer. But he has put these Pharisees and scribes in a corner and they have to make a really big decision on who Jesus is. And and we know the rest of the story of what they they ultimately decide.
SPEAKER_00As as we close, again, the theme will be the purpose, the persistence, and the practice. So I I have uh a really observation for our hearers. I've got three questions for you. Uh, if you'll be taking those, and please do I know you look here again, but if you can look at it, please leave comments uh in this podcast, it will be beneficial for us. But the first question that I want to ask, you know, charging with is what condition in your life are you hiding that Jesus is actually willing to touch? And we can see the leper question Jesus' willingness, not his power, right? So are you willing for the Lord to go ahead and touch you in a way that it will be transformational? Now, number two, are you the paralytic, the Pharisee, or the roof terror? We can see the desperate desperate need for a man, there's a skeptical religious leader, we can see that in the Pharisees, and then we can see the persistence of the friends bringing the rooftop, bringing to the rooftop. So I want to leave you with that. The last question I have: if Jesus has forgiven you, this is the most important question that I think we'll rest for a lot. If Jesus has forgiven you, why are you still lying in the mat? The paralytic got up immediately. He didn't negotiate, he didn't hesitate, he went and go. So, this is an observation for us that his work had past this and command, have precedent and command, and will have a command for us to do for the generations to come. And with that, I appreciate you for that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's been a good walkthrough, as always. Not the bad news bears. See, that's way better than the bad news bears. The good news bears. I love that the good news bears. But listeners, definitely with Rico's challenge, definitely examine where are you at. And even like you said, maybe you're the friends on the roof. Maybe you have a friend who needs to come and have that meeting with Jesus. So there's always application in God's word. We hope that uh this past day encouraged you, and we will see you next time. Thanks for tuning in to the Life Talk Podcast. If this episode encouraged you, please be sure to like, comment, subscribe, and leave a review so others can find this content as well. And we'll look forward to seeing you next Monday for another great episode.