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fire this is Sika Flynn and I'm your DM Ethan welcome to venture fourth

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foreign [Music]

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's void once more now with the intention of freeing the sheep from the demon

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Kellick after a spell was cast and a level up occurred was able to actually

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separate the sheep from the demon itself now transforming it into something much more grotesque

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afterwards a meeting with seeker and thessaly now cemented them as part of

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the Agents of repair Flynn went off to addersfeld for a couple of hours and found himself in the

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presence of the iron-like castle he found himself in the dungeons beneath

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the castle surrounded by teachers and mentors and after a quick ritual I

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decided to instead extend the ritual and opened himself up to All Souls of

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magic as he got a tattoo that covered his arm completely he was now deemed a

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sentinel as he headed back to the group and the group had cemented themselves as an

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adventuring party the Agents of repair what would you all like to do

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well we have a unique opportunity to speak to some of these and I sort of

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not in the direction of the the rotating um presence for these uh

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creatures some of these cultivists

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um is there anything we could

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extract information wise these balls

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oh what do you mean uh they've been sort of

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tanking and uh brainstorming but I don't know that we have any real idea of

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what's the ultimate goal of the order the red wolf is they talk about chaos

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but they are an order so that would mean that there was some kind of

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foundational elements even if it is chaos they're they're organized they

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have a plan right so so you think we should ask them what their plan was and

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why why they got trapped in the crystals I doubt them tell us out right what

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um no unless they think they can gain something from it and that's the there lies the Rope

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[Music] no right like [Music]

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he's probably and then right they somehow came into

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contact with the calderian Army which then trapped them in person crystals when Artemisia was uh speaking to

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philosoph under hey apologies I'd have to catch you up

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on quite a bit still I know we've been trying but um tired I sort of just like bow my head to

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thessally and secret we observed a communication between Artemisia the uh

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sort of leader of the Temple of Vermeer and this decaying [Music]

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thing sort of resembles a dwarf carve an Amber Stone he's real creepy looking she spoke

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of something called an emergence I think that would be in reference to the creature they were trying to bring out from the plane of Fire

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uh if they've got a formal name for it then that would

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indicates that it's not the only one that that's the plan not across the board

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you said that this armies yet does she have anything to do with the old gothamir you think that that's what this

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is about or is this about something else entirely I wish I knew how much familiar was

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involved I like to think that she's unwitting in her

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complicity but there's no rule on it out one of our sort of

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thoughts is that the old gods might be working with the outcast in order to retain their hold of the nations of undo

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and gambled there they need someone with more power Maybe it's the only thing keeping the new Gods

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from taking over I think that's a line of questioning I would be very very interested in knowing

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if that's okay I don't I'll let you all lead since you know a lot a lot well I

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think it's also worth asking about specifically whether they know if there are any more like whether they have any

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more keys in their possession right I mean we we know of those two other spots that that the keys might be going to

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matching right or the air

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do you have any way to make them talk um [Music]

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just my fist I um yes this one here she's our she's our muscle I was

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actually um thinking about that

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I have um I have a Bell of sorts that um would make it very

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very difficult practically impossible for someone to lie

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hey uh trick or two of that and my own uh

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possession it's just a matter of whether or not they are slippery enough to so it also

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doesn't force them to tell the truth but we should really ask them if they know

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anything about what's happening at the benville rise and in Raywood is that tip in our hand

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don't do they know that there are keys in those locations I don't know

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um maybe maybe you ask them in a way that doesn't say those things right and maybe

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ask around it I don't know you're better at that than me find a way to ask them without actually telling them anything

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[Music] it's a really good way of like talking around things and like how like you kind

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of talk in circles and some of the words make sense and some of them don't so maybe you can confuse them into saying

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something thank you uh all right I'll uh teslie maybe we can

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use some combination of your magic and my ability to not say anything uh

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to extract some fragment of truth from these creatures sure I'd be willing to help explain what do you think

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um so I'm over off in the corner just almost not even paying attention to this uh whole conversation as I'm completely

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lost in this new book that I have and I'm flipping through the pages just trying to understand the gravity of what

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I just was what I just received um and I just I just kind of look up what huh what what uh what are you

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paying any attention definitely yep okay well what do you think then I think we should do that

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what do you think we should do Flynn what you said you think that we should interrogate them using spells to extract truth from

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people sounds pretty good to me okay hey did you see the Sheep I did I see the Sheep at the

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um yes and first you heard it I'll look over in the distance uh but

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the last time I saw it Timmy was with it right Timmy's over there look over what's Timmy up to now

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um Timmy it was it was very recently that you looked over here he's still over there he's like petting the Sheep he's feeding it some some seeds I look

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over longingly just kind of smile and I'll look back yeah yeah I saw it yeah

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Kelly fixed it I looked at Kelly thank you hey

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it's awesome that you did that where are the Agents of repair I can't

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go live on a bunch of broken souls in our wake

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and I'll look up to the cage that holds the new demon form yeah

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how did you manage to do it though don't know that I could replicate it

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sometimes hit us though

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this arm of mine is not even my own sometimes it it takes more

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of me than I hold of it and I just

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felt the compulsion too [Music]

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give back a choice that we took away

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in a dimension of his arm I will just hold up my arm uh and now look at all the differences

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in it and all that added ink and [Music]

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huh I wonder if this is still mine well isn't that I mean your name's on it

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at least in one place that I know my name's sign this one oh this is new

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um can't tell one script from the other I truly thought it was yeah I really don't know what to do yet

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um I'm gonna go in this uh figure it out um is there any care you need to apply

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to that in the coins on this I understand normally when people get things inscribed in their body they need

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to sort of look after it they clean it does still hurt a bit because I don't want to be like

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you know waking up to you with a swollen right nasty thing I mean I have enough

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to deal with in my own arm and I have a feeling that this ink is a little bit different than that normal style so probably would expect as much hey freed

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yeah um do you have like any magical ointment

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no Flynn I don't do you have any uh [Applause]

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Timmy see if we can find any uh

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ointment for Flint thanks Timmy

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yeah I guess I don't know oh I'll see if that helps it just want to make sure you're

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taken care of yeah appreciate it whoa of our

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perspective and interrogis

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herdia's tank would make the most willing participant oh it's a really good question we have the Sheep

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the previously sheep Beast no I don't think that one that one really couldn't

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even form a sentence on a word uh we have Amara

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I don't know anything about Amara who knows how well her facilities will

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hold up given that she's in the body of a recently deceased half orc

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and then there's uh depending on his mood I suppose

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oh boy you know him so that could help

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yeah but I don't like him and he doesn't like me why not do both at the same time

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some people talk to one and some talk to the other sure but maybe one could help us ask the

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other one more stuff [Music] um or we could use the information

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cleaned from one to time are also to see if they're lying are they Within earshot

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no they are they're on floating platforms hundreds hey freed yeah

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um find a guy who's had some experience interrogating things I'm I'm keeping

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myself out of this no I I totally respect that I don't have any advice

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people are going into interrogate other than not turning them to Stone that's uh yeah it's it's tough to talk

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when your mouth is stoned um uh took me a couple tries to figure out

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um

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sort of know who you're interrogating that's that's step number one is the best way to interrogate someone is to

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know as much as you can about them then then you know if they're you know more susceptible to to threats or uh Promises

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of Freedom stuff like that [Music] do I know anything about zergat for my

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time with him that would make me feel like I knew one way or the other I'm gonna have you make

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and insight check

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he was as as long as you knew him he was always very closed off

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um very sort of Lone Wolf type character

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um don't really know too much about him yeah and you also you always sort of kept

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your distance he was always a little bit of a creep so you didn't really totally hang out with him too much I'm I'm just

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going to say if do you care about them living

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do I figure about them living probably right like we don't want to

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kill people who are in prison they tried to kill you no but they're in prison now it seems kind of weird to kill them when they have no

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way of fighting back yes but my point is that you don't have much to hold over them to get information well we could

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turn them does that get you information if you're talking about a threat you

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can't get information from their from them when they're dead either yeah well maybe we can bring the platform with all

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the stone bodies down and just show them the Sea of stone bodies and tell them that they could join them and live there

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forever or they could tell us what they we need to know also the threat of floating in a circle

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for the foreseeable eons might be enough that's true how long has that red dragon been there I

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mean come on he's been here for a long time [Music]

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there that I really don't want to kill anybody that's like in prison

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essentially you're not good company not do that please I'm not saying I'm not

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saying that you should kill them per se I'm just saying that the threat of their lives may be the only thing that you

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have over them okay and I've been part of one or two of these things in the past unfortunately

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oh yeah yes so this is a long story

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that's information I didn't have previously we do we really think that they believe we're gonna let them go no

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we're not letting go I don't think they'll believe that but that's the Tang writers we might be able to give them the impression that there's a chance

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they could get one over on us if that would help us yeah so so like so like maybe we should pretend like

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like we're soaked through this that we have no idea what we're doing so they think that it can like win

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that's kind of true though what do you mean pretend not that clueless maybe not you guys as

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a whole I think trying to figure it out do we have okay another idea okay

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sometimes it is uh helpful to maybe make them think they are free let them go

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and follow them see what they do that might be precarious it puts way too

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many lives it's a stick Seeker any one of these creatures could destroy this entire town marstock

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in an instant so what is your goal saving all of their lives or giving information to save the lives that are

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good I have value every single life down to its fundamental lessons

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every last one how does that help you to the end of stopping this group it doesn't matter

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I don't give it off I won't trade it just a thought but they all like the the Sheep are they

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all too combined Essences not quite like the Sheep but

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yes no I mean Amara's just Amara but well she's in a dead body I hadn't

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thought about that oh if if we could guarantee that

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the body could um well a fight

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for long enough to get some control

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possible I could speak to that person

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how would you do that I don't understand well I because how does a dead thing

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fight for control well I don't know to be honest with you but I

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have access beyond the there you can talk to dead things I can

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why I can do a lot of things I don't know

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what you mean well why would you want to be able to talk to dead things well that's what I do is not what I would like to

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just happens to be what I'm up to okay but it still doesn't it still begs the

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question like the dead thing can't fight Amara for control if it could right this

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is we're talking about a lot of unknowns here if the dead thing could fight for control and if it's seen everything Amara has seen while it's bush is used

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in its body I mean I don't know oh then it would and there's no reason not to communicate well what if we take that a

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step further I wasn't here when you did whatever you did to that and I'll point to the new demon uh but if you can

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separate the Sheep permanently could you just separate the person permanently and then we can just ask them without

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worrying about control or I think that could be our leverage that could be oh witnessed what you did if that's

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something that they want is to have these Essences and habit other bodies

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then you could threaten to separate them which would diminish their power right

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that's not something that they would want oh the reason they're not all like the

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Sheep creature is because the Sheep creature was two entities together right no it was just well it wasn't me

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before it was in you that's true he's not a body but the transfer was not

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successful entirely it we didn't manage to put that

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monster into the Sheep but how does that monster have a body

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now are you thinking not a fact from where right uh it's probably

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true energy from multiple planes uh I think part of what uh Hereford hard to

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do was give it someplace to go because otherwise it could just go out to whomever like we saw with

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Christmas so it has to have some kind of fragment of Flesh and I think it might have made the rest of it itself

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so they do need a body that's something that they would want to hold on to right they need some corporeal form

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yeah better than others right zergat never used to look like that like he used to be kind of like thin and

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creepy and weedily but but you said they

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were wanting crystals no as a form of punishment hey freak do you have crystals that we

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could use to Fan a I've got no Crest also come on man it just throws his hands up in the air

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anyone if I understand the Nationals crystals correctly no I don't need real crystals I just

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want them to think they are real oh well I have uh my deck for my bag to find my crusty diamonds that we're still having

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pulled the stuff off of I have this it's not picturesque but it might serve

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your threat who's good [Music] telling a lie

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[Music] yeah I mean I'll uh I'll go through my bag

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and uh as I remember and I'll pull out a little file or I think this is something that we could

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use to talk better if anyone wants to take it that's the

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last one very last one and if you guys if you want to use it

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be it's I don't think I'd use it that well so I'm I think this is important and

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we should use everything we got to get answers because we need them why not ask them a lot of questions

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see where it goes and then if it goes nowhere threaten this

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[Music] if they've been there before they know it's possible

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[Music] I I or at least just threatening the loss of

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their vessel that that could be a problem for them too maybe worse than death sure I

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my fear is these types they cut throats at a moment's notice I don't

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know how well threats from hospital play out this is all you have if you're not

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willing to cut their throats then you have to threaten them with something that will scare them but that's why I propose speaking to a creature that

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isn't them that's my that's mine before we talk about weather we're gonna

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kill them we're not gonna heal them let's just talk about something okay we're not talking about killing ah

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yet okay so remember when Thaddeus

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um [Music] um made made the big one Zerg gas former

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body like and then um we were able to transform

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him transform him here yes yeah was it like couldn't we just do

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something like that to Amara's body so that she goes and then um she doesn't have control anymore when you say blah

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what does that mean I mean like um Thaddeus was like stop

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and his eyes flashed and and then zurgat stopped yeah almost like he listened

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wait so what exactly is the plan here we make him stop and then what no no like what if we what if we made it so that

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Amara didn't have control over her body anymore right like like I so then yeah

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so that then you took rest control and talk to the dead but also then we've

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applied Magics previously to prevent um the creature from accessing you when

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you were holding it right if we if we use those sort of protective Magics

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against right and I'll tap my little bag of um powder

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yeah and then that could work also also prevented also combine that with with

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your idea Oma yeah and we could probably do the same thing versus right and pure so to make purells go do we need and

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then we need the ideas for that though right I mean I can't do it I'll look do I see Thaddeus uh around

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um yeah over on one of the floors does it forms uh Thaddeus uh is hanging out with 86. does anyone else know how to

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make Creature stop and go blah [Music] no I don't have

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split Powers but um I I've I've been told I'm persuasive so I try that

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I could try a different angle I might be able to do something but I have another question please this this plant uh

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you say how dangerous they are is this all done from this side of the

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the prison or do we have to go in this or I think we just pull them up to us or

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we can go to them well I think we can make the cell shrinking oh yes oh that would be cool yeah that would

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help and then I don't have to put my hand in I like that right yeah he'll go Splat like up against the that's the way

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hay free can make him go black no Splat oh Splat yeah it's confusing

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what is when they don't have control perhaps is like pushed up against the white the bear bars why is that so hard

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to understand it's very similar we have to learn the technical terms yes thanks all right well I've only studied on your

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for so long oh my uh

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I wish never mock y'all I'll go over to uh Thaddeus and 86. okay

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uh hi 86 how you doing I'm doing quite well how about yourself well we're doing

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okay we're trying to figure out a way to um ask some questions and I don't know if you have the capability but Thaddeus

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was able to um kind of uh influence someone's decisions I guess

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and made someone stop when he said stop I don't know if you can do that I'm pretty good at doing stuff like that

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oh and he uh he pulls a knife out from oh well no not differently um maybe I should just

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talked to Thaddeus about it do you mind yeah sure here any like talk we're gonna catch him

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um uh do I remember if there's a way to turn him on for longer um yes more than just 10 minutes so

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basically you get you can either do it three times a day for ten minutes or you

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can do it once a day for an hour um I'll do it for 10 minutes for now just because I'm not sure when we're

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gonna start this and I'll just do the 10 minute I'll turn them on okay hey hey Thaddeus um so uh we're still

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waiting to uh have you guys ship off but in the meantime we've been trying to

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figure out a way to uh get some answers from some very bad people and we think you might be able to help us is that

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something you'd be willing to do I'd love to okay anyway I can help 86 I'll be right back I'm gonna I'm gonna take

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him over to the group yeah sure go for it and I'll uh I'll head over uh with that east's head and I'll bring him to the group hey um Daria said he's down to

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help yeah okay daddies remember um at the fight like a little bit ago when when you

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um did something and your eyes flashed and you made your gas like freeze can you do that again if we ask you to

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I could certainly give it a try um that one's not always a guarantee but

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I I can definitely try for you I mean trying is as good as anything like we just need

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him to stop or would we need him to do something else can it do something with us what about sleep or or leave maybe

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he'll leave the body I don't know uh how does it work that's the thing is it's

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it's uh it's sort of up for interpretation for whatever I say huh um however that creature wants to take it

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so if I say leave um honestly looking at the cage they

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could just do nothing if they know that leaving is in Daya isn't an option what about sleep sleep I

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could try so I couldn't couldn't we just do this with Heroes and and

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zargath because zorgath is like awake and has been seeing everything and it's more similar to the Flynn situation

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right because because Flynn remembers everything that happened when when he was taken over right and so maybe and

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maybe zurgath would actually want to be free like if we could free him he might actually really want to be freed right

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like if we could actually separate him from the demon then you went Toe to Toe with that creature in combat do you know

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if you're fighting sargath or pieros for the duration I'll uh think back to the

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fight um did I feel like I could glean anything when I was when I

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was fighting you were in close quarters combat with them um it very much seemed it was

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it was almost like one second you were fighting one creature and then the next second you were fighting something completely else it seemed as though they

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were almost switching back and forth cooperatively in order to get the upper hand cooperatively though

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yep okay once once one fighting style took over the other it seemed pretty seamless there was no transition period

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did it seem like there was any um conflict like I want to take over no I

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want to take over make an Insight check okay uh 10 10

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not that you saw um I mean in combat you would know if there is

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even a moment of hesitation or conflict thinking about what you're going to do

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next um that's an opportunity for the opponent to get the upper hand and you didn't feel any of that in your in your

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combat with them um I mean I some of the styles that they were using seem to be different but

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it seemed like almost there wasn't any struggle it didn't seem like whatever was happening between

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whatever's in there it seemed willing on both sides so I don't know if you'll be

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able to bring them out because maybe they won't want to well one thing I know about zergath is that he's really slimy and he doesn't want to be in prison so

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if we can find a way I I think he's willing to there's a possibility that if

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he thinks he can get out I took if we offered him his freedom in exchange for

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the the entrapment yeah continued entrapmental you said this they saw what

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happened when you fixed the Sheep right it's hard to miss so yeah just say that

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hey if you don't listen we'll do that and you can go free and we'll keep the demon thing here and maybe then he'll

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want to take over and and answer questions as much as Sarah cath might be benefiting from the power of piros

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it makes sense that he wouldn't want to be uh stuck here forever for the crimes that his this other yeah yeah you can't

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get any benefits being in a prison cell yeah and then that'll make them want to speak too because we need answers if you

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give us answers you get out and then we have you said you can make him speak the truth right definitely I can make it

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very very difficult for someone to tell a lie I can't force them to say anything

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true but they CA nothing false can come out of their mouth right and if we tell them

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that if you tell us stuff we'll let you out so then they have to speak and tell us stuff and it'll be have to be the

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truth probably I like this idea I I think it's a good color I

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um I think that's good as good about as we have should we start with zergat then let's do it yeah and I mean you can talk

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with dead things later if you want to that's all right I don't need to talk at dead things it's not it's not a

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compulsion okay it would also require making a thing dead well that one is

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mostly dead you don't see the whole yes it's kind of hard to see it from Harry

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Potter yeah all right first met her we met her like forever actually I met her when I met Kelly and Lynn yeah and try

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it I knew her before she was reanimated you know I do find my best yeah they were just a dead

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body it was the dead body with a giant hole in their Center I know them very briefly before that

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and they took over that body yeah so now it's Amara

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oh so many questions welcome welcome to the team yeah just thank you this is what we

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have to sort of muddle through okay let's talk to them yeah uh Hey freed uh

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yeah I think we're ready yeah and I think it still is wise to have if we

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could bring down the graveyard of statues

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I couldn't do that yeah just as like a visual cue okay also is there a way to make it so the others can't see I know

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they're far away but just maybe make it so they can't see through their cages in case we do something uh if you want to

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give me a couple hours okay or you can just throw sheets over the top of them yeah let's uh is and I'll

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look around for the the bookshelf of all the like the bookshelves on could we just put that in front of their

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I mean yeah sure for another view yeah I can I can do that and uh as a freed

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um raises his hands he simultaneously brings down the platform with the statues moves over the platform with the

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books to be in between the main platform and the platform of Amara and he also

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brings closer the platform with zergath and piros um as he's doing that I'm just

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behind him kind of like mimicking his movements just like yeah [Music]

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I watched Flynn do this and I stand behind him

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as I just watched him move his arms back and forth and then at the end of uh when

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it's all finalized and things are in place I'll look down on my hand and be like

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what are you doing what um nothing no just you know just stretching

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um yeah okay really weird your hips were like

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shaking back and forth and you were wiggling well that's like a special all right we're ready to go

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as the uh as the platform with zurgatin piros um locks itself in place in in this

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vastness of empty space and a stone bridge operates to that platform

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all right well are we still doing the and I'll Pat the the dust pouch on my um are we still doing that and I'll wipe my

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fingers on my forehead are we still doing them attachment it makes it easier for zaga to come through okay if that's that's

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our hope all right I think he's probably going to be more open to speaking to us order of

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operations what makes most sense um black powder truth

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truth black powder powder there's so many other options what what

35:43

do we what do we think makes the most sense we'll make a t is your first thing to apply his powder right oh that's true

35:49

it's going to be a momentary play at best so black powder truth how long will

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he be black for oh um if I recall not long just just a

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moment I mean he's even black at all right right

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I know that I I know that well I mean if if I ask him to sleep

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if I ask him to sleep I mean it could be possible that he just

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stays asleep okay no talking to all my best points though that's the question yeah from my

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experience it's um like a few minutes for the powder that stays on before it kind of washes

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off so how long will the truth thing be up it's usually about 10

36:42

minutes all right so maybe we always do it all at once Kelly do you have any way of trying to get the one we want to talk

36:48

to reaching zaragus well with our no more

36:53

than what Flynn is supplying okay and we're also going to say hey Zerg out if you went out tell us some stuff and

37:00

we'll separate you from your demon and get you out of here yeah I should be able to tell if it's orgas talking or a demon talking because like I remember

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zorgas do you all want me to uh and Hatebreed sort of puts his hands up and like moves his palms closer to each

37:12

other indicating like shrinking the cage yeah yeah yeah can you can you splat I

37:17

can I can and he reaches his hand up and he slowly

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closes his hand into a fist as the bars Glide along the stone platform and

37:32

slowly make their way and actually make contact with uh zergath and piros as

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they are standing there completely confined uh in a upright position how do they look cool

37:43

um confused angry a little bit of anger in there yeah

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um I will hold up the potion that I mentioned earlier does anyone want to take this who's going to be talking do

37:56

we think we should use in hell a do you want to talk

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uh sure I can also talk or like anybody can talk I I uh I'll just hold it out to

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both of them okay okay do we want them to be separate right we

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just want sargatherers for now I'll look over is is it just or yeah or is there is amaro's cage there too amaras is

38:22

still okay so it's just our death right now yeah cool okay all right

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um should I do it are we doing it all the same time seems to be a roughly around the same amount of time hey let's let's do it all

38:36

right I'll hold Thaddeus out and I'll I'll set him um within range like like a few feet away is this far enough away

38:42

can you do it from here um yeah yeah we should be good here whenever you're ready and I'll uh I'll reach my hand and get the pouch get

38:49

ready all right um and Thaddeus looks directly into their eyes his eyes flash green and he

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says sleeps as the voice Echoes off

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and let me see [Music] as you see the body go completely limp

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yes the eyes close and soon enough you have a sleeping zirgath piros in front

39:17

of you I just just not apathetically at home

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I will uh I will approach uh this sleeping sargath and reach my fingers in uh to the pouch to get some of the

39:30

silver powder and uh rub it in between my fingers and it kind of hurts a little bit and

39:36

where the tattoos on my fingertips are new and it's like I feel like a almost like

39:42

more of a surge of energy than I did before that I'm not used to and I fight it and I reach out and I just quickly

39:48

swipe uh across sargath's forehead and cast protection from uh evil and good

39:53

[Music] okay and I think that's a saving throw unless sleep does something uh they have

39:59

to make a [Music] what

40:05

doesn't it give them Advantage protection I guess it just gives them there's no unwilling targets then it

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just works it just works step away from the cage and kind of as I do I shake my hand as as he does this I just have like

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a nervous moment to myself as I like fiddle with the stopper on the potion and I and I will cough this last silvery

40:24

potion okay they said simultaneously so while that was going on I was just lingering slightly like five feet behind

40:30

everybody and um I place my uh right hand like right over my collarbone where

40:36

I know my amulet rests underneath my cloak and

40:41

I'm gonna go ahead and whisper something under my breath that even I don't

40:47

understand and cast zone of Truth okay

40:52

um as this zone of Truth operates in front of you what are y'all doing I'm gonna just real

40:59

quick I'd like to raise an eyebrow at this way as she does this can I tell what kind of magic she is

41:06

make a either religion or archana check oh no I was trying to be subtle oh I

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rolled very low so but you're lucky um

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13 13. um religion it is

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Divine magic you can't really you don't recognize

41:32

exactly what it is okay from your experience probably not Divine magic of

41:38

familiar just because you are so familiar with that yeah um but it does seem to have some

41:43

Divinity towards it okay okay just just just a momentary glance was like and then from behind that was cool

41:52

yeah that was um thanks okay let's let's move on I will approach this age

41:58

and uh kneel down in front of it and um what's what's closer to me I mean are

42:07

they prone horizontally or vertically they're they're like standing standing

42:12

up vertically their head is like sort of leaned off to the side resting on one of the bars okay so in that case I will

42:19

sort of um I'll approach and I will adjust his garments I will kind of brush the dust

42:28

off of his coat and and fix fix his collar and uh and conclude this sort of

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bizarre Movement by just like

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so knocking on a door knocking on his sternum uh just a couple quick Taps okay

42:45

and stir him from the Slumber and um with like a couple of quick jolts that don't really move the body around

42:50

anywhere um the eyes burst open and look right at you [Music] hi there

42:57

long time no see and the eyes sort of gaze over the

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entire group I wave and the eyes fixate on Oma and like

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squint hi sir cat [Music] his eyes move back to Kelly

43:17

is that he was our guest is that I'm Who I'm speaking to

43:22

yes and he sort of like looks around like not expecting that answer to come

43:27

from his mouth how you doing in there

43:35

[Music] I'm doing well enough

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not where I want to be but that's you mean

43:49

in this Construction or In the Flesh of

43:56

a body that's no longer your own the flesh suits me fine

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the cage is my problem I wanna walk over to Oma like I'm behind definitely even I

44:08

want to kind of work my way up and just kind of bend down and is

44:13

is that what he sounded like when you knew him yeah I mean mostly okay

44:21

[Music] so all this this uh [Music]

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chaos this vastronaut business that's it's fine with you

44:37

I've been learning the ropes and yes I've enjoyed my time

44:45

gives me greater purpose purpose other than

44:50

living the good life making money purpose Beyond gold

44:56

[Music] that purpose is what exactly

45:03

what could be better than gold for a amount of refined tastes such as

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yourself [Music] the world

45:14

as I have come to know it it's much like this cage

45:21

you don't see the bars but they're there

45:26

I have been learning too get rid of the bars

45:33

free myself entirely of the cage

45:39

rather altruistic of you if you don't mind me saying really uh enlightened

45:46

like I said I've been learning hey

45:53

I'd say that I have any power to free you from that cage per se

45:59

Porter say I could

46:05

for you from this one [Music] what would you be willing to do

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to obtain let's call it a lesser freedom

46:20

[Music] would you be willing to

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[Music] give us a little bit of details about

46:32

the goings-on of you on your counterpart here [Music]

46:38

I suppose so but if I'm being truthful

46:45

still rather new I can give you answers but perhaps not

46:51

the ones that you're looking for how much

46:57

of Heroes do you no how much do you see

47:06

I often see through his eyes I see his actions

47:14

and although his temperament may be different I'm learning

47:20

that what I thought once was the only way to do things is not so the

47:26

case sometimes is certain

47:33

brutality a sledgehammer is needed [Music]

47:39

I now have that option but do you have that option surrogath

47:46

are you merely being strung along what's the end result here zaragath

47:51

lives in a world free of bars or piros takes their God's body as much

47:57

as he wants and gets to live his life beyond his

48:02

expiration date we have come to an agreement

48:08

that I feel more than comfortable with

48:18

we serve as partners to each other

48:24

each enhancing each other's strengths removing weaknesses

48:31

do we all hear this speaking to the group

48:38

that's until you defy them I know firsthand

48:43

as soon as you do something that they don't like you're done

48:49

so don't think that you're gonna be a partner forever it's worked out well so far

48:55

so far I mean what's it been like a month

49:02

you said it yourself you're new [Music] well what

49:10

I'll put it to you straight we aren't troubled by

49:17

Zerg or the holocard the spirit concerns us we wish to keep

49:24

them locked away [Music] so it might be within our power as

49:30

you've seen to give you your true freedom and then

49:36

you can go make whatever world you want if you're so caught up in the cemetery of the movement

49:43

it's only if you work with us what guarantee would you give

49:50

I saw what you did with the other creature well the Sheep is out there

49:55

running free you are the Sheep In this case in this scenario that's that's the fact

50:01

is that something you can guarantee I saw your struggle well

50:07

you can't tell me that you had full control over that [Music]

50:14

I have as much control over that as you have of your own body

50:19

probably more

50:25

you know me as an honest person

50:31

you take my word for it [Music] make a perseveration check yes

50:41

okay okay okay 26. hey there we go let's go okay I'm

50:49

also gonna have you make an instant check for okay [Music]

50:56

17 17. um as you say that

51:01

you can see he like he closes his eyes and is quiet for a moment

51:08

almost you get the sense of trying to observe

51:13

if pyros has an ear in this conversation um [Music]

51:21

if that is a guarantee you can provide

51:27

I would be willing to accept my freedom [Music]

51:36

if you are able to provide us with information that proves helpful to our

51:41

Pursuit and I see no reason to deny you that freedom

51:48

so tell us

51:56

what keys are in the possession of these followers of the outcast

52:02

we've seen one to the plane of Fire [Music]

52:07

what of others [Music] what is your intent

52:14

if I give you this information well we wish to know the Merit of this claim if the world is truly unpresent

52:21

then it would be corrupt of meeting not be a part of the movement of freedom

52:33

[Laughter]

52:40

yeah okay an advantage that Advantage I had to

52:46

laugh

52:52

uh for a total of 24. as he just convinced he's an honest man

53:02

I mean the best time to lie [Music]

53:07

from what I have seen

53:13

the hollow guard is in possession of no other keys at this moment a hollow guard or the organization at

53:19

Large [Music] we had ties to the hollow guard

53:26

that was where our station lied I there was no overlap

53:32

with the owners with the others tribe and so on see and

53:41

um what of the senior drumwind

53:47

last we heard they'd found no sign of him where are they looking we have no location on the senior drum

53:55

wind [Music]

54:02

and the efforts to search for him have stealth in favor of his son

54:07

in his head like slowly bows in the affirmative foreign

54:13

[Music] importance to bring forth demons

54:21

free the world

54:27

have you learned that [Music]

54:34

he stays quiet [Music]

54:40

will you not share with me the secrets of this revelation

54:46

I once served Vermeer until she abandoned me had been betrayed

54:53

by this world left and right I'm now

54:58

play like a child with the Magics of another God [Music]

55:04

those were not answers he had given to me

55:10

what compels you then to believe

55:17

foreign

55:23

prophecies that have been handed down continue to speak truths

55:29

[Music] small events day after day

55:35

have been predicted weeks before

55:41

and I wish not go against Power like that hi

55:47

power

55:52

the old gods are

55:58

[Music] they involved do they associate with

56:03

those clerics how connected is familiar and her lot

56:10

to the workings of this group

56:16

you have to understand that I am

56:23

merely a vessel of the hollow guard's action

56:29

and as one of you may already know

56:36

in the hollow guard information apart from what is necessary is sparsely given

56:44

I pipe up yeah but you're also traveling with Amara and like the person who has like

56:52

ultimate power that Kellick used to respond to report to so clearly you were around people who knew things so you're

56:58

not just an emissary for the hollow guard and he looks back to Amara's cage

57:05

and you have her here yet here you stand asking me questions

57:11

huh DM have felt if like

57:18

they superseded my zone of Truth was it effectual like am I able to tell oh yeah yeah okay you can if they

57:26

succeed that save you would be able to know okay cool thank you yeah sir gath and we'll get to her but

57:32

if you want what helic has offered you then you need to tell us everything you know also okay so kellik asked what do

57:41

you know about the gods having an impact not what is the hollow guard no what do

57:46

you know as it was explained to me

57:53

our ultimate goal it's too

57:59

foreign and with his power

58:05

remove the cages of this world

58:11

and how do portals help you with that

58:17

as it was told to me the more chaos that we

58:24

sow across the world [Music]

58:29

the more power of astronaut gains he feeds off of the chaos

58:38

I believe so well couldn't you just cause chaos for more than just opening up

58:43

portals to other worlds why why is that it's destroying the fabric of

58:51

the weave to open part of that size does that weaken it so that fasternath can also

58:58

get through this definitely creates chaos beyond the imagination

59:07

what traps boss or not that he must be freed is he not able to walk

59:15

he is not not yet

59:20

where is he being held they're playing Beyond this one

59:27

though which I do not know so that might be why they need the playing keys

59:33

that is entirely possible yeah I'm just going from A to B and coming up with C so

59:43

ah what of the waste sarcastic

59:49

have you been have you been to the West he looks a little bit confused

59:55

I have not [Music] and uh the Fallen storm

1:00:04

does that mean anything to you not within my recollection

1:00:13

I sort of like look broadly to the group like I I turn away from him fully

1:00:19

steely-eyed and then as I turn him kind of like like my my eyebrows pop up and I kind of wind my eyes

1:00:27

what was your next step what was your next thing to do after we went down what what were you gonna do

1:00:34

next if the emergence was successful what happens next if that thing came through

1:00:40

in all likelihood perish

1:00:46

to whatever came through you were to die there if

1:00:53

the chance occurred that Amara and I could Escape

1:00:59

though we knew the risks as we were there then we would have

1:01:05

gone back to the hollow guard awaited orders

1:01:11

but a likelihood of death was always there

1:01:16

so you weren't gonna go and meet back with Kellogg what's her name not to me

1:01:21

is you yeah that was not what we were instructed to do

1:01:26

you know where Artemisia was going I do not know her location

1:01:33

[Music] wait what about anything else

1:01:39

guy in service to this though saragath how do you benefit from it I I admire

1:01:45

your commitment to your closets inspiring but I I struggle with it what do you value

1:01:53

life the fruits of Life The Joy I feel and would you not die for that cause

1:02:00

if I were to no longer experience it then Diane would remove the very thing that I value

1:02:06

but for others

1:02:12

you want to give that world to others when before you were

1:02:19

a hollow guard assassin

1:02:25

he doesn't answer does he does he seem like

1:02:33

I think I know the answer to this but does he seem unwavering in that make an inside check

1:02:41

I'll give you Advantage because he's within the zone of Truth

1:02:46

um 27. oh

1:02:52

um okay it uh it seems standing before you is a

1:02:57

creature who is steadfast in that belief though possibly misguided in how they're

1:03:03

going about it okay okay if we let you go right now

1:03:10

zergat where are you gonna go he doesn't answer

1:03:17

he's gonna keep on keeping on doing what you're doing just without the extra Brawn I do not believe that that was

1:03:24

an answer within the terms of our agreement I'm just curious you know

1:03:30

what was the next cage you were going to remove did you wanted to remove the cages of

1:03:36

the world what are they exactly

1:03:43

the balance that are put in place of this world not

1:03:48

allowing people Freedom that they need so they predetermine destiny

1:03:57

of people and and events

1:04:03

so that's why you want chaos to remove all those boundaries that is a step required to achieve it

1:04:11

so what happens once there's chaos we all die and there's no one left on

1:04:17

this world not everyone just thought

1:04:23

most people will die and then what and then a new world can

1:04:29

begin

1:04:34

without the new gods or the old gods

1:04:40

I hope is that the cage divinity

1:04:46

the gods as we understand them he nods his head affirmatively

1:04:56

you want to wipe this leg clean [Music]

1:05:02

start over [Music] huh

1:05:09

tank is our gas for your cooperation uh we're going to discuss amongst ourselves no that was not our agreement yeah it

1:05:15

was because we have to decide if you gave us everything that you wanted you said you would let me free if it's worth the information if it starts like

1:05:22

jerking around in the cage um he said that like right before he started asking questions he specifically

1:05:28

said if it's valuable information so we have to determine whether it's valuable you've interrogated people before you

1:05:35

know how this works but I I say as loudly as I can so that Amara might hear

1:05:41

but thank you kindly for your cooperation you've given us much we can uh Ponder in the next moments and uh

1:05:48

we'll see if it ends up uh helping us to stop this ridiculous plot of yours yeah

1:05:55

I'm sort of like indicate just uh to uh Hey free to like get the cell uh out of

1:06:01

our uh uh physical presence and um as you back up off of the bridge onto back

1:06:07

onto the main platform he almost like with a dismissing hand wave motion

1:06:13

um the the platform Glides back into its place in the Outer Circle as as Zerg is

1:06:19

going away um can I can I get in one more spell real quick yeah sure okay

1:06:26

um so I'm like shaking with rage and I put my hand up

1:06:31

to my collarbone one more time um and I'm gonna go ahead and upon seeing is there got like twitch and try

1:06:37

to move around I'm just because I want to uh gonna cast hold person so he can't

1:06:45

move and can't have the thing that he wants okay um it's not a save on him that is it's a

1:06:51

wisdom save okay as a nine

1:06:57

not even close all right and as um as Avery sort of dismisses the the platform

1:07:03

back the cage itself begins to open up and the bars go back into the place that they normally were but zergat's body is

1:07:11

still like completely rigid in the standing up position um as the platform Glides and continues

1:07:16

in its Circle just smile a little bit all right round to the next one

1:07:22

I don't know do you think there's more we can guess than that I think I said that they're the one that has more

1:07:28

answers they're higher up I thought zergas would be the easiest to convince but he was completely committed to their

1:07:35

cause like uh to be honest with you there's a world in

1:07:41

which I would gladly freeze sargatha that kind of Fate but not like this not with such devotion

1:07:49

yeah I mean he's just gonna go back to them and keep and keep serving except now he knows where our void is and now

1:07:55

he knows like that we have access to all this stuff so I don't know if there's any way to like make him forget all that

1:08:02

what if we pretend like we want to be a part of it could we even I I did my best effort at that and even

1:08:10

then the information was sparse uh we could try with Amara but what else

1:08:15

would she want besides more people and devoted zero cause I don't

1:08:22

think she'd care about death I don't think no she's fearless she's literally in the

1:08:29

deceased body as it is and I don't think I'm up to torture they didn't plan to leave

1:08:36

you heard what he said I expected to die for their cause yeah so we have nothing

1:08:42

to threaten them with and they may not know more plans because why would you tell someone you expect to die what is

1:08:49

happening any further goals yeah I think we did gain something from that don't

1:08:54

don't tell zergat but uh we did not know that vasanath was in Chains I taught him free yeah taught

1:09:01

him able to influence others I mean clearly he has some kind of way to to to walk amongst the living and influence

1:09:08

people like uh Zeta but um I I don't know I I would love to know

1:09:15

about these prophecies that he talked about if Amara's been there longer and as you

1:09:22

reference Amara you look out and uh you see her cage floating in a circle and

1:09:27

whereas previously you saw that she was in a sitting position facing away from everyone now she is standing with her

1:09:35

arms behind her back you can actually see like her hands clasped behind her through in her chest

1:09:42

um looking at all of you almost like almost waiting expectantly

1:09:49

she looks like she's ready to talk to us it can't hurt might as well all right

1:09:54

on this I actually hate flying I it makes me so uncomfortable

1:09:59

you did a good job someone who hates lying you're very good at it I'll take a point

1:10:06

all right do we have a game plan for this one I don't think separating the body is gonna do so well but we have the

1:10:14

fact that we have talked to zergaft to hold if that's of anything to argue to us

1:10:19

we could just say that he said stuff we could Bluff and say we know more than we do yeah

1:10:25

right but then what are we asking for I I think Alma made an excellent point

1:10:32

when she said about the prophecy specifically and maybe we could learn more about these chains that they're trying to free the outcast from which

1:10:39

might help if we maybe zergat convinced us of the value of their Pursuit and we just want to understand further what the

1:10:45

actual end result is what the prophecies are what they predict

1:10:51

possibly and we know that they don't have any more keys yet now that I know that um DM now that

1:10:59

I know that Amara has been stationed with the hollow guard does her name sound familiar to me

1:11:06

um in that conversation it was your understanding that zirgeth and pieros are stationed with the hollow guard you do not they did not specify about Amara

1:11:13

got it um before we bring bring them down do we know if these These are

1:11:18

really a thing I mean I know I have the one but all we have is the blueprints that you have the locksmith to make them

1:11:24

or are they out there in the world right now it it seemed as though they were they were

1:11:32

drawn right and you took an etching is that right yes Seeker so I would assume that they

1:11:38

already exist and you all said that you saw them use one that looked like the

1:11:45

drawings we we have it tonight possession yeah so I would think

1:11:50

the rest of them exist I think we should operate from here forward like they do because if not then they're going to try

1:11:56

to make them regardless stick here Artemisia said they'd found that key in

1:12:01

the town that they pulled it so maybe Bram hid these Keys is this this

1:12:09

brand is this the the drumwind that you'd mentioned that's right and this is

1:12:15

the one that made mix keys he's a locksmith

1:12:20

he may be dead we don't know he's missing it seems that

1:12:27

we need all the information that we can get from that one

1:12:32

but don't really have much to give freedom possibly or or the the illusion of

1:12:42

freedom or that we are capable of being swayed

1:12:51

that they could have I think that's five powerful servants to fosterone off in their favor after our

1:12:58

discussion with zergath we are curious for more information maybe

1:13:05

you got to play the cards your tilt I got a plan I'm ready

1:13:13

all right and hey freed reaches his handout and starts pulling Amara's uh cage closer the stone bridge operates

1:13:21

and you all are standing right next to Amara hi Amara

1:13:26

and I'll uh pick up Thaddeus should we do it again

1:13:32

um I assume uh any number of you have some sort of Truth spells I am more than

1:13:37

willing to undergo whatever spells you would like uh to to put me under cool yeah I have

1:13:42

nothing to hide totally all right does that mean you're just willing to talk

1:13:48

that is precisely what that means no true spelling still just a guarantee does he bet she uh nods

1:13:56

towards Secret so I put my hand up to my collarbone Mudder uh my words and uh this sort of

1:14:03

there's always this sort of like luminescent quality to my skin um and it just sort of shimmers out and

1:14:09

just Cascades in like this little Globe around um around Amara and it's like this

1:14:15

silvery sort of almost like Moonlight quality pretty you have nothing to hide

1:14:21

no why were you in a prison Crystal

1:14:27

um because myself and a few other members of um the order of the red wolf as well as

1:14:34

in joint collaboration with some members of the hollow guard had attempted to

1:14:39

kidnap a um I believe Lieutenant within the army of khaldor a man by the name of

1:14:46

kale drumwind um it was um brought to my attention that his

1:14:54

father was not able to be located and a good possible source of persuasion would

1:15:01

have been to kidnap his son his son's family if possible and hopefully draw out the

1:15:08

locksmith himself hmm unfortunately when we got there we were met with more resistance then we had

1:15:13

initially thought um and it seemed that the forces of the

1:15:19

caldorian army were amassed more than usual at that time and

1:15:24

we were quickly overtaken we attempted to flee towards the Border but were were

1:15:32

they caught up to us and in short order we were taken and imprisoned within

1:15:37

crystals how long have you been traveling with I'm sorry Kell like I can never remember her name Artemisia yeah

1:15:44

it was such a weird name how long have you been traveling with Artemisia um I had not been traveling with her for

1:15:51

too long but I I'm aware of her cooperation with the order of the red wolf for at least the last few months

1:15:57

yeah and we know she's got like a couple keys and she gave you one

1:16:02

she doesn't have any other Keys as far as I am aware um I am also not ignorant enough to to

1:16:08

admit that not everything is told to me so as far as I'm aware she only was in possession of the one oh oh right so it

1:16:15

was it was um it was Corbin that had the other keys I am unaware of any keys that Corbin has

1:16:22

so nobody had any of the other keys and where are they not that I'm aware of there is more than possible that uh that

1:16:29

different people within our organization have keys and that information is kept on a need

1:16:35

to know basis who would be the person who needs to know Corbin Emerson so he's like the big big

1:16:43

he coordinates most of our movements got it we saw his tomb

1:16:50

it was super creepy because he wasn't in there where is he where is he

1:16:56

I do not know his current location Miss Artemisia then the

1:17:04

uh just Underneath Him in terms of your hierarchy is that how this works

1:17:10

I would not say directly well although she is

1:17:16

yes oftentimes commanded uh directly by Lord Corbin Ember Stone

1:17:21

um I would not say that she is 100 within his favor although her

1:17:29

defection What I Hear relatively recently um she's risen quite quickly within the

1:17:36

ranks but no I would not say that she's quite gained the favor of being his right hand

1:17:42

and although looking at her trajectory it's easy to see how maybe one day soon she will be you see it's almost like I'm

1:17:49

trying to subdue revulsion just like like full

1:17:56

like [Music] um I don't know the compulsion to throw up

1:18:01

like that level of just and how is it that

1:18:08

she commands the magic of Samir if the goal of your organization is to

1:18:15

end the rule of the Gods on this world it's actually a fascinating story um

1:18:23

she although a a proprietor of the old gods um who wish to join our organization and

1:18:31

so not willing to give up all of her power she told me of a ritual that she

1:18:37

undertook to not only break a portion of her connection to the old gods but also

1:18:43

allowing her to keep some of that power as well and extend that power beyond what she was normally capable of

1:18:51

um she's broken her ties to the gods as a whole but still in in a certain way in

1:18:56

in her own way has held on to that Divine magic and did not release all of it that witch stole a fragment of the

1:19:03

bear okay go up to the to the to the uh bars and I just like put my face directly in front of her

1:19:10

she rendered a god of light to sow the seeds of chaos

1:19:16

wow quite emotional khalik we're not here to talk about Artemisia anymore stop it calm down

1:19:21

[Music] I I just like whip away from it and and like

1:19:27

try to contain myself apologies I seem to have struck a nerve okay so forgetting Artemisia for a little bit

1:19:34

because clearly that's an issue um [Music]

1:19:40

what about the Fallen storm who is that the Fallen storm was at one time a

1:19:47

weapon that was used to sow chaos although in

1:19:54

their attempt to uh break a portion of the Divinity from the

1:19:59

world they were where they were stopped [Music]

1:20:05

yes we've been or a person

1:20:10

oh the person is a weapon and they were in ways primordia it's in

1:20:17

the center of the west where it was with this person alone

1:20:24

um no uh her and well actually interesting enough um her father was the uh the beginnings

1:20:32

of our organization the daughter of the red wolf the daughter of the red wolf got it so

1:20:39

the Red Roof investment aren't the same thing no does she still exist

1:20:44

not to my knowledge so I believe she was killed many years ago I'm just like hunched and like sweating so

1:20:53

the red wolf the order of the red wolf was he the first person to figure out

1:20:59

about vasanath and try to free him yes oh and that's why it's the order of the

1:21:06

red wolf because everybody's also trying to free him I get it I mean that makes a little bit of sense

1:21:12

[Music] but like why

1:21:17

what do you mean why what the red wolf is the two mostly it was from like a million million years

1:21:23

ago so like where the old gods in power then or was somebody else in power

1:21:29

um it was uh well I would say a few Generations ago the red wolf uh was had

1:21:35

begun our order um and yes the the old gods extend far

1:21:40

far before his time so he also wanted the chains to be free

1:21:48

the red wolf yes and what plane is vasra Nathan we believe he resides in one of the

1:21:55

levels of the Abyss [Music] oh fitting

1:22:01

in prison there um for who put him in prison or her I mean who put them in prison

1:22:08

presumably uh someone or a group of people who are very powerful

1:22:14

did the Fallen storm fight against her father or for her father

1:22:20

[Music] um the Fallen storm her beliefs were very much in line with

1:22:26

her father although her father had passed away when she was quite young and she was taken under the wing of Corbin

1:22:33

emberstone another red wolf is dead yes

1:22:38

and she's a she was a weapon for vastronoff that is correct

1:22:44

hmm why are you so open to telling us all of this well on one hand I was hoping just

1:22:52

a little bit that you all would be able to see the bigger picture that the gods are destroying and enslaving

1:23:00

this world and through

1:23:05

some means I hope to open your eyes to that and even if you don't agree with me now I'm hoping if you continue down this

1:23:11

path that you'll you'll soon see the truth that lay before you so even

1:23:16

the new gods yes isn't

1:23:23

related to them not to my knowledge although anytime you have gods in the

1:23:31

sky there will be a certain level of helplessness that the people below them

1:23:36

will have and although in the beginning this war did do

1:23:42

quite good things for our cause and sowing chaos very quickly

1:23:48

the chaos dulled as

1:23:53

the more the war expanded in the beginning

1:23:59

people were quick to abandon their faith as people were dying as as families were

1:24:05

not being reunited people quickly lost their faith but

1:24:11

through some some act as the war went on and on people began to fortify themselves and

1:24:18

reach back out towards the gods and find security in that so

1:24:23

fairly surprisingly the longer the war goes on the more power the gods seemed to have

1:24:29

so this chaos not quantifiable by bloodshed

1:24:36

it's you meant to say that it's directly proportional to the amount of

1:24:42

belief and trust that is

1:24:47

the war has provided a certain level of organization to their fear

1:24:55

the war has given people a direction to point Their Fear and in the beginning of the war that fear was in our favor the

1:25:03

the gods new and old were losing their power as people thought oh as as my family is not

1:25:09

reunited as my sister does not come home there must not be Gods but over time the

1:25:16

war has provided structure to the suffering as people now look to the Gods in prayer for their families to come

1:25:23

home and be reunited it's the opposite of what we would like to have the war has given people order now correct

1:25:30

because it's been going on for so long yes and they're used to it unfortunately okay so that was one

1:25:37

reason what's the other reason that you want to tell us all of this you

1:25:43

said for starters you think maybe you can get us on your side the second reason is is simply that this is

1:25:49

much too large for a group of seven eight and sort of looks in the

1:25:56

back towards like Timmy and 86 9 10. it really doesn't matter

1:26:02

there are things in place that that you simply cannot stop what kinds of things we're pretty good

1:26:07

at stopping things and your order consists of one of people to fit into a courtyard in

1:26:16

the Cure at least the people worthy of any mention

1:26:23

and and although they oversee our reaches is surprisingly quite wide

1:26:31

um and I I would challenge you all to think on while yes you did stop our

1:26:36

efforts to open up a single portal um I wonder how you all would fare as

1:26:43

five portals are opened up across elbow simultaneously now with

1:26:49

what we know as as you all have stopped us uh much more people stationed at each portal

1:26:55

well where are the other portals we do not know their locations so how are you going to open them all up at the

1:27:01

same time if you don't even know where they are through furthering our research if it took you this long to find one to

1:27:07

like maybe we'll be fine this is a substantive argument well if you are yelling at her about Artemisia was

1:27:16

I pout uh almost like lost and thought Oh come back to the conversation as that's

1:27:23

happening and I'll look at Amara um so if we

1:27:28

destroy all the gods wipe everything clean wouldn't boss or not just become a God and then this

1:27:35

cycle would continue um quite possibly yes

1:27:43

and then it would you're just starting it over again we are preparing contingencies against that like what

1:27:50

I'm not at Liberty to disclose that information I feel I've been more than open with you all although

1:27:58

any chance of of that coming out I I'm not comfortable with sharing at the moment

1:28:04

but I'm curious good for you I thought you took the chance to fight for you how are we

1:28:09

supposed to fight for something we don't know well I'm hoping that that eventually you all will come to your

1:28:15

senses but we also know if we also didn't want gods in the sky wouldn't we want to know what the contingent

1:28:21

contingency was to keep that from happening now no

1:28:26

uh we we require vasanath in order to to further our goals

1:28:38

preacher is vasranath if it's not Divine

1:28:43

and it's chaotic you've given a lot of vague adjectives What entity is it

1:28:51

the best description I can give you um I'm afraid it's still going to be

1:28:56

relatively abstract but uh think of whatever the opposite of divinity is

1:29:04

take Divinity and go the opposite direction and you have contingencies for dealing with monsters

1:29:11

like that we're developing them yes interesting

1:29:16

so the order of the red wolf wants to release bus for Nath and then control it them

1:29:23

if it comes to that it sounds so foolish yeah it seems pretty insane

1:29:31

there are such contingencies why not employ them against the current that's

1:29:36

what I was thinking Administration that is why I describe boss or not as I did our contingencies only account for

1:29:43

the opposite of divinity we have no direct countermeasures for the Divinity itself

1:29:50

additionally vasranath presents as a singular entity multiply that by five you get into some

1:29:58

deep water fairly quickly and what of the new God's promise

1:30:03

there um they say that they want what you want to

1:30:09

not have a Divine hierarchy to give the power back to the people

1:30:14

have you know interest in that we believe that to be inherently false

1:30:20

but fast we're not saying it isn't false well they're gonna try to control him the prophecies that we have

1:30:27

um claim it to be false yes right the prophecies okay what's the business with these prophecies

1:30:35

we have uh Through The Years um starting with uh the red wolf himself

1:30:42

and passing them down onto Corbin Ember Stone received a number of prophecies

1:30:47

through them all of which have come true um our order was

1:30:53

relatively small and most of our members like myself were

1:30:59

born into it and so we were at a certain level of

1:31:06

understanding growing up and a certain level of belief as well so we had some tougher times bringing in

1:31:13

other members and these prophecies helped with that and for a long time I this was before I

1:31:21

was born but uh for a time it was told to me that people thought us crazy and

1:31:27

people thought our organization insane as our friend over here had just

1:31:32

said but after these these prophecies began to

1:31:37

come to light of of the Gods themselves falling from the sky

1:31:42

of New Gods taking their place of a war ravaging the entire world well

1:31:50

while at first those prophecies were seen as Insanity as those events came to pass more and more people began to

1:31:57

see our way if

1:32:02

if I want to join your order what do I do

1:32:09

we appreciate action an initiative

1:32:14

so in any way to further our cause

1:32:20

um provide worth prove yourself worthy of of joining our cause

1:32:26

we have had many people across elbow

1:32:31

who stationed in different locations having different occupations

1:32:38

feeding us information in overtime a trust is developed

1:32:44

what kind of information are they feeding you well for one um locations of these

1:32:50

overlaps between the planes we were given a good seed of information that an

1:32:58

overlap between the plane of fire and and our world here naturally occurred in

1:33:03

the Decay runes and when we followed up that was proven to be a a worthwhile opportunity

1:33:11

and how does bringing a beast from another plane through a great gate

1:33:18

disrupts the powers of the Gods oh what relation does that have I I

1:33:24

don't know if you quite understand that we weren't attempting to bring a beast

1:33:31

through we were attempting to demolish the walls between

1:33:37

the plane of fire and here had we succeeded that portal would have

1:33:42

continued to grow and possibly Encompass the entire area and not only

1:33:50

one beast but from what we had hoped uh many number of them

1:33:57

and how did these Keys come to be did you

1:34:03

commission them yes I did not directly myself

1:34:09

and Bram drumwinds just aqueous

1:34:15

I believe um Ilana had a contact that she had used for many years very skillful locksmith

1:34:22

and through persuasion he had created

1:34:30

these incredible threshold keys

1:34:36

but then he took them from me and hit them we believe so

1:34:43

you have another question ask away is she like sort of gestures to the glowing zone of Truth around her

1:34:51

do you know an Earnest Hollow pot I do not know that name

1:35:02

foreign information who would I give it to

1:35:09

myself you are here as soon as you let me go as a

1:35:15

showing of your faith to our cause I would do with that information about is necessary

1:35:20

that information wouldn't do me much good and here would it no no it wouldn't

1:35:29

say I don't fully believe you but I wanted to contact someone else who

1:35:35

would I talk to well the point of contact for most new

1:35:40

uh people is through the hollow guard itself um it'll on a show overtakes

1:35:47

the majority of that organization and from what I believe one of you might

1:35:53

have a way to contact them I mean

1:36:01

I tangentially assisted the hollow guard with some things everywhere once in a while you know in the past but

1:36:08

I don't work for them it's okay we all have a past or some of

1:36:14

us okay maybe we should all talk

1:36:20

what have the waste and primordia is that

1:36:28

are there any more prophecies with that or is that all done that was our first attempt at what we

1:36:35

are currently doing we have adjusted our plans since then as we have determined that

1:36:40

having a single point of of contact does not benefit us strategically as much as

1:36:46

having multiple across the world and as we saw previously

1:36:52

um having that one point of contact to sow chaos across the world was unfortunately the downfall

1:36:58

so the storm was trying to assassinate the Gods

1:37:05

um to sow chaos to the point of people losing their faith as the

1:37:12

epicenter of divinity at the time was completely eradicated and if that storm had continued to grow out a certain

1:37:20

level of panic would set across the world and people seeing that their

1:37:26

Beacon to the gods was destroyed in in such a manner people

1:37:33

would probably see that their gods hold no power and hence lose their faith so the next

1:37:39

step that you guys have is to is to find the keys and the portals

1:37:45

that is correct but you haven't found any more not at the moment although active

1:37:50

searches are taking place and we have a few promising leads and Archway down luck

1:37:57

is he present in any of this the red Wolf's father I I have not heard

1:38:05

much of archery dalmok Beyond The Legend of the red wolf

1:38:12

the legend [Music] being just his contact with the outcast

1:38:18

that is correct and these prophecies and I I am not one to uh

1:38:24

to believe the old stories completely I don't understand that there might be

1:38:30

embellishment in some um and as I have heard of no contact of of any archbay

1:38:36

within our organization I would not be surprised if that was an uh exaggeration of lore although I I

1:38:43

knowing uh the great acts of the red wolf would not be surprised if that was in fact uh an actual occurrence are you

1:38:50

referring to the arch phase conflict with the powers that be

1:38:56

simply the arch phase existence if the arch phase existence wasn't a

1:39:03

tank then how was the Red Roof exist it's possible that he was just a man

1:39:11

the world just man

1:39:16

the red wolf yes he was he was a man yes although uh some say that he had powers

1:39:23

to transform himself into a a red beastly wolf-like creature which is

1:39:28

where he got his name from I yeah well what an amazing power that would be I wish I could have seen it yeah oh we did

1:39:34

see it no I'll not just talk of keys are they were they all made

1:39:41

even the one that goes to the abyss and um through

1:39:49

various means of uh tracking our sources uh we have confirmed with Alana that she

1:39:54

did in fact see all of the keys at one point um though it was told to her that they

1:40:01

required continual work and after that she no longer had contact

1:40:07

with them and if we wanted to turn in a key for the cause

1:40:13

who do we go to for that you could turn that to myself right but you're kind of indisposed right now

1:40:21

then we would release her if that were our intent I oh but maybe we don't think

1:40:27

they'll believe you anymore now that you've been right we want to skip a step

1:40:35

furthering the cause I I understand where you're all coming from um once again Ilana okay

1:40:41

um possibly regaining a bit of her uh her lost credibility after she

1:40:47

mistakenly misplaced these keys and did not keep track of them as she should as well

1:40:54

as um I I know that uh as we have now

1:41:00

acquired the might and force of the benoch tribe I know that they they have their transport routes all over and as

1:41:08

I'm sure you would be able to move your way up and uh and find someone in that

1:41:13

organization that you'll be able to give it to and you're said everyone's looking for the keys how exactly do they find them like if we wanted to help and find

1:41:19

a key is there like some kind of spell or trinket or a magic item that you use to

1:41:26

find these keys that we could have um unfortunately I am not a part of the

1:41:34

group that searches for the keys I am not exactly sure the means with which they are attempting to find these Keys

1:41:41

nor the locations of overlap themselves I am it is my job more to be on the side

1:41:47

of of the Mystic Arts within opening and maintaining these portals to other other

1:41:54

planes yes last thing I'm curious about is if I wanted to talk to the source like

1:42:00

it seems like some of you have how do I communicate or how do I talk to

1:42:05

faster enough uh it is different for

1:42:13

everybody um for the most part most of of the people who are able to draw power from Boston

1:42:22

um create a sort of pact with him um and and almost

1:42:28

like um well I would assume your friend here and she points to Kellick uh as as

1:42:34

you I'm sure create some sort of agreement with a deity that that you

1:42:39

draw power from it's it's a very similar uh process where you for the most part

1:42:44

have to open yourself up to it and be true in your intentions

1:42:50

how do you break a contract like that mm-hmm

1:42:56

to my knowledge it has not been done nor can it be done

1:43:03

but to format you have to open yourself up to it you need to hold a certain level of

1:43:10

pre-existing devotion we've had people within the order of the red wolf who have Faithfully served us for years and

1:43:17

they haven't even had the opportunity to receive this power it is a level of devotion that goes just beyond

1:43:25

requesting to speak with us or not you have to understand but we've heard of him approaching

1:43:32

strangers to your cause people who were just

1:43:39

tourists

1:43:44

does that surprise you that that does not surprise me no what reason would he have to form a

1:43:51

contract with someone like that did they share any Allegiance with God's

1:43:57

new or old why the new gods

1:44:04

once again taking power from old gods relieving just uh relieving gods of

1:44:10

their servants I interesting

1:44:20

well thank you very much for your time

1:44:27

um you're gonna stay here for a little bit we'll let you know if we chose to abandon our faith and morals and want to

1:44:35

kill everyone ethics well soon I was going to be here for some time so um yeah I mean I appreciate speaking with

1:44:42

you all another couple Generations things will change let's see if that uh Holly yours holds

1:44:50

up in the meantime I sort of point to the wound in the center I mean time doesn't really pass

1:44:55

here so like yeah I suppose maybe one day

1:45:01

I'll be waiting for that day you'll wait all right

1:45:06

all right turn away and I quickly yesterday

1:45:11

pushes pushes the uh the platform back out

1:45:17

foreign just visibly deceiving um I'm gonna walk over to to you okay

1:45:25

and say now is not the time to waiver you heard

1:45:31

what they said this is about sowing chaos so that people question

1:45:40

faith so it seems

1:45:46

we have a couple of decisions to make it seems like from what they are saying

1:45:53

the old gods and the new gods are the problem regardless of how you feel about them

1:45:59

and that this vast Renault is the the end game the end goal

1:46:04

so even if it's just a figurehead yes

1:46:10

hi it seems

1:46:16

that maybe we can help in lessening this confusion this chaos they're trying to sow also it seems like

1:46:25

[Music] we might want to try and find these keys

1:46:30

yeah or we could Infiltrate The Wolf seems like we have a path or and I look at Oma

1:46:39

what are you looking at they said you know how to contact this

1:46:44

Ilana sure I mean I don't know how to contact Elana

1:46:49

but I I mean I know where

1:46:55

I mean I think I could contact her it's the last resort I don't think any of us want to make vows to the to this

1:47:05

air used to always go and pick up the pick up the tools and and pick up like

1:47:11

our next thing that they wanted us to do like Marsha and I were just along for the ride so like we didn't really make

1:47:18

any decisions or or contact them but I know where air went in andoria but but I

1:47:24

didn't ever go but I I know where it is and in theory we could go there and try

1:47:32

but the Holocaust bad news it's all bad news everywhere you look we

1:47:38

turn to the reigning governments of these places and we say hey there's a great threat at this location in that

1:47:45

location the battle's way like flies and continue on with their warmongering

1:47:51

but if we try to stop the war by decreasing the faith in the old gods then we help the cause of this red

1:47:57

Russian well there's Madness well they want both of them gone right

1:48:03

but I have to thank that any decrease in faith is it born to them but then it

1:48:09

would increase the faith in the new gods that'd be a thought and then it would stop the war

1:48:16

I thought that's just what I'd like to do the new gods were the bad guys the whole time but

1:48:22

I'm not sure about that anymore it's a matter of perspective

1:48:30

nothing it doesn't seem like the gods are the issue here that's

1:48:35

like a side thing this war is is just is Just

1:48:41

Happening by itself it seems like the call to the red wolf has been trying

1:48:47

for much longer to unseat all gods it is a part of the thing

1:48:53

they said it was a step they need this unchaining this on this

1:49:00

release of faith in order to release this verse right but last time they just

1:49:06

had a giant storm in the waist right last time the big chaos and the big unseating of power was just a was just a

1:49:12

bunch of lives lost right it was just it was just true it was the destruction of a of a bastard their words there were

1:49:19

Gods involved multiple gods primordia was a place where you could go to speak

1:49:25

to the gods directly you could witness them face to face the

1:49:30

destruction of such a wondrous uh location is it was certainly going to

1:49:38

decrease faith and the power right but nothing else my point was it wasn't a war wasn't it how much do I know of the the

1:49:47

dethroning of the old gods from childhood you don't really know too much

1:49:54

um Beyond like the basics that's okay just because it's also it's also

1:50:00

as far as the history of the world goes fairly recent yeah so not a lot of details have yet come forth if you had

1:50:09

this power of the old gods do you think you would willingly give it

1:50:14

up without strife

1:50:20

no but it doesn't seem like it seems like their power comes from the

1:50:26

people who support them so The Strife is just Strife on people

1:50:32

so I I guess my point is it wasn't a war against two equally powered things it

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was an attack from the weapon the Fallen storm on on

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primordia and all the people I wouldn't call that a war I would I

1:50:52

would call that an attack because those splitting hairs is doesn't help us in this I think

1:51:01

I think the war is going to be there regardless I don't think that's something we can realistically think

1:51:06

that we can stop if we're just if we're incapable of stopping that and Howard would just stop the end of all things we

1:51:13

stop it by getting the keys and destroying them right but but the keys would have no power the the Lost

1:51:21

were not coming so this world would have no power if the gods had had the power they needed to

1:51:26

fight back right but if they find the keys which it seems like they're close to doing it doesn't seem like that to me

1:51:32

they're researching a lot yeah but they've only found one and we've prevented the use of it if we stopped

1:51:38

the war and they still bring the keys and open up five or six seven eight portals all over at once and one has

1:51:44

those on Earth that comes out I'm it's still gonna cause chaos when we're saying the same thing I'm saying we

1:51:49

should find the keys but I'm also saying that I don't think that means we can't also try to stop this war

1:51:55

because if we can get both sides to pray to the same Gods then then those Gods

1:52:00

will have power and they'll be able to help I don't even believe in the gods though

1:52:06

so how can I tell someone to believe in something that I don't believe in well right now they're just fighting

1:52:13

each other so we just want them to stop even if they believe in different gods

1:52:18

let them believe what they want to believe they don't have to believe in the new Gods that's what but we have to

1:52:24

go to every single person on this world and tell them to believe that's that's going to take too long it is a lot it is

1:52:30

the same concept as creating these these Gates these Rifts

1:52:37

great actions like the destruction of primordia that's how you influence belief it's not through conversations I

1:52:44

dare you to go talk to Graham bloodren and convince him he doesn't deserve the mine

1:52:51

it doesn't work like that wait and didn't they say that the war was actually

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a a no longer helping their cause it's not it's increasing the faith because people are more uh that fast I don't

1:53:05

like to say it but maybe the war is not our Focus I think it's the keys I agree with him I agree with you

1:53:13

hi uh the keys Tech president and as you sort of finish your thoughts

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you hear the portal to the void open up and you see Timmy burst through

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drenched in water guys I think you should come out and see

1:53:35

this and that's where we're gonna end this episode [Music]

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