Breakup Songs II - Anti-Valentine Theme

Forget flowers, chocolates, and over-wrought romance, this February the ISHK podcast is celebrating the opposite with an Anti-Valentine's theme. Starting us off is Quizmaster Sups with four facts about breakup songs. Prepare to have your heart strings shredded when one of his facts turns out to be a lie! Guess which one it is along with hosts Andi and Tanner! 

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Sups 0:01

celebrities do have feelings,

Andi 0:02

yeah, yeah. Right. So it's like, should I say or

Tanner 0:06

I It's

Andi 0:07

toxic? Yeah.

Tanner 0:08

I stay it be double. Yeah.

Andi 0:10

It'll be trouble.

Tanner 0:11

Dang it. When I think of their singles, that is not one of.

Andi 0:15

Yeah. You know, well that's just how many great singles they had so

Tanner 0:21

I'm very skeptical on that.

Andi 0:22

Yeah. but I will say though, if that's the lie, this is extremely impressive lie. Yeah. Hello and welcome to this episode of the I Should Have Known podcast, the trivia podcast. That can't be trust. Each week, our Quizmaster presents you with four big facts on a topic, but one of those facts is a lie. And for the month of February, we are celebrating anti Valentine's Day. So instead of being your normal celebration of love and romance, we are celebrating the opposite of that. And today our quizmaster is soups.

Sups 0:56

Hello

Andi 0:57

And soups is going to be presenting us with four facts about breakup songs. And this is a part two. If you remember from last year, we did breakup songs as well. So we have four new ones, but remember that of his four facts, one of them is a lie. So join me, Andy, and another host Tanner in trying to figure out which one it is.

Sups 1:17

Mm-hmm. Is there already a tradition if you do it like two times in a row? Because I feel like now I'm like a breakup song

Tanner 1:23

Yeah.

Andi 1:23

Yeah. You're the guy You're the breakup song guy.

Sups 1:26

I'm, I'm the guy. I'm the guy for breakup songs. And I'm gonna give

Andi 1:29

I dunno what that says about you,

Sups 1:31

So I've featured four songs and Basically the internet considers them to be the best Anti love songs, So the low-hanging fruit for the week Which bands famous hit song is you Give Love a bad Name.

Tanner 1:47

Ooh, yeah.

Andi 1:48

okay.

Tanner 1:48

You give Love a bad name. is it Bonjovi or?

Sups 1:52

it

Tanner 1:53

is. Okay.

Andi 1:53

through the heart and you are too. Blame. Come on Tan.

Sups 1:57

It is. Bonjovi Yeah.

Andi 2:00

a bit of an, I should have known inside joke. I feel like karaoke Classic.

Sups 2:05

Okay, so let's get started with the first fact. Fact number one, Justin Timberlake's. Crimea River is an ode to his unfaithful ex Britney Spear.

Andi 2:16

Oh, okay. Yeah, right okay. Yeah, let's hear the

Sups 2:22

All right, so let's begin with the verse from the song. Of course, I'm not gonna sing

Andi 2:25

it. you must it's what our

Sups 2:28

listeners

Tanner 2:28

are

Andi 2:28

They told me this explicitly

Sups 2:31

Well join us in Cracko for a karaoke party and then we'll do that. Okay. So here's a verse from the song. You don't have to say what you. I already know, I found out from him now there's just no chance for you and me. There'll never be and don't it make you sad about it.

Andi 2:51

Yes.

Sups 2:52

Alright. So Crimea River came out in 2002. It's from his debut solo album.

Andi 2:59

Oh my God. I just realized how old I am.

Sups 3:01

it's been a minute. Yeah. So Rolling Stone has included this song in its 500 greatest songs of all time at number 4 84. Yeah.

Andi 3:12

cracks the list.

Sups 3:14

Yeah. It also won uh, Grammy for best male pop focal and The song is about a man who is dejected and is trying to move on from his last girlfriend who cheated on him. In the music video. There is a

Andi 3:29

the car crash. Yes. Yeah. I feel like I remember that being a controversy. the girlfriend is like in a car crash and dies. Right?

Sups 3:38

And in the video, the girl She is kind of like a lookalike of Britney Spears, and that's how sort of the rumor started. And basically the story was that Britney cheated on him with their choreo.

Andi 3:50

Oh yes.

Sups 3:52

For a long time though, Justin Timber. Kept denying that this is about Britney Spears.

Andi 3:59

I mean I don't remember the lyrics very explicitly, but Yeah. You know, it is very emotional song, but also like super two thousands. Mm-hmm. You got a little bit of some falsetto going on. Yeah. r and B vibes just sad boy vibes. That was

Sups 4:15

in

Andi 4:15

thousands Yeah. Seems pretty believable, right? Like, I mean, we know that Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears dated mm-hmm. around that time. So, sure. It could be just tabloid stuff. Maybe he has come out and said like, no, you guys, seriously, it's not about her. that's possible. But I think seems

Tanner 4:34

seems very reasonable. Even likely. I feel like, you know, like to drum up more publicity, you would write a, a song about a breakup

Andi 4:42

Well, I mean maybe he felt genuinely like torn up.

Tanner 4:46

Sure. I mean,

Sups 4:46

celebrities do have feelings,

Andi 4:48

yeah, yeah. Right. But I think saying no, it's not about her, actually like drives more attention than saying like, yeah, I did have my heart broken. We were in a relationship and I really cared. And this song is, My feelings about that relationship. Yeah. That's the mature adult thing to do. yeah,

Tanner 5:05

This sounds very believable.

Andi 5:06

Yeah, I'll have to Hear

Tanner 5:08

rest. Yeah.

Sups 5:08

right. Fact number two, high energy, electro power pop song Love Kills as the debut single of Queen.

Andi 5:18

Wow. Love Kills was their debut. Single. Ooh. This is like a classic trivia fact. Like it's something like, you probably should know

Tanner 5:26

I don't know this song.

Sups 5:27

Okay, so then maybe

Andi 5:29

yourself,

Sups 5:30

sorry. So let me give you the lyrics, Love. Don't give no compensation. Love, don't pay no bills. Love, don't give no indication. Love just won't stand. Love kills drills you through your heart. Love kills scars you from the start is just a living pastime. Ruining your heartline Stays for a lifetime. Won't let you go cuz. Love, love, love won't leave you alone.

Tanner 6:14

It does sound familiar now that you say

Sups 6:17

course it does. It's

Andi 6:18

you say

Sups 6:19

the lyrics, Yeah. All right, so little bit of context. Well, we don't need an introduction for the band and this song was actually released in 1973 from their debut album, called Queen. when it released, the song largely went ignored and it was then re-released in another album of theirs in 1970. In 2008, it was number 31 in the greatest guitar songs of all time. Wow.

Tanner 6:48

When I think of their singles, that is not one of.

Andi 6:51

Yeah. You know, well that's just how many great singles they had their first though. Like, oh, I don't really have contacts for this. I was not alive in

Sups 6:59

the seven.

Andi 7:00

seventies. I might find that surprising. so, It's hard to know, like if that would've been the first. If it wasn't, well, what was, yeah, what should I be thinking of so I should know that what the first

Tanner 7:13

one is, right? Is it Bohemian Rhapsody Is it just like

Sups 7:16

right top?

Andi 7:17

It's a two-pronged thing cuz there's the one thing where it's like, it's a song we should know. And then it's a song that we should know is Older Than Love Kills. Right. Which, Is asking a lot.

Tanner 7:27

Yeah. Yeah.

Andi 7:28

I feel like it's asking me a lot. I am not that deep into music history or into Queen so it has to be something where like, you should know this. Mm-hmm. What about the breakup?

Sups 7:40

there wasn't a direct breakup connection or the story. It's, more on the lyrics, right? That it is related to some breakup

Andi 7:47

or some kind of pain. Love hurts, Okay. Yeah. it's a good anti Valentine's vibe.

Sups 7:53

right?

Andi 7:54

For the fact, I don't know,

Tanner 7:55

Yeah. I'm not so confident in believing that one as the first one, so we'll have to see how three and four stand up.

Sups 8:01

All right. Fact number three, the third verse of should I stay or should I go, has backing vocals in Spanish.

Tanner 8:10

Spanish who's it by? Rolling Stones?

Sups 8:14

no. It's by the Clash. Clash, The British Punk Band. Do you want me to also say the Spanish part

Andi 8:20

Yes.

Tanner 8:21

Yeah, yeah.

Sups 8:24

This indecisions bugging me. es. If you don't want me, set me free. Exactly whom I'm supposed to be. Don't you know which clothes even fit me? Ropa Come on and let me know. should I cool it or should I blow So it's like the literal translation of these lines.

Andi 8:56

I love it.

Sups 8:56

Yeah. So one of the greatest hits by English punk Rock band, the Clash. This is from their. Combat rock. It was written in 1981 and It only became popular a decade later in 1991 because of a Levi's jeans commercial who used it, and then they re-released the song, and then it just like, it is still, the band's only number one single ever

Andi 9:24

Yeah. I can't name a single other

Sups 9:26

Yeah. Yeah. Good Yeah. It also made it to the Rolling Stone, 500 greatest hits of all time in 2004 at number 228. Alright.

Andi 9:34

All right. Wow. Pretty high. I feel like it had a resurgence too with Stranger

Sups 9:39

yeah, yeah, exactly. the song has a very crucial role to play in the first season of, stranger Things and basically the drummer of the band He was in love, with Spain and Spanish, So when they were recording, He just had an idea that, oh, I'm gonna do the backing vocals in Spanish. So there was one of the tape operators in the studio who was from Ecuador, and so he basically called his mom and just sang these lines in English. And his mom sort of just literally translated,

Tanner 10:10

and

Sups 10:11

that's what made it to the backing vocals.

Tanner 10:13

Okay. Weird. Wow. I really hope she got credit on

Andi 10:17

the yeah, right. Yeah. Does she get royalties for that?

Sups 10:20

Nice. Tell her, you know this song? right? I do know this song, yeah. Okay.

Andi 10:23

I love how you asked Tanner,

Tanner 10:25

you if, if I know it, then everyone knows it

Andi 10:27

that's pretty accurate. Like That is the bar to

Tanner 10:30

clear. I mean, don't ask

Sups 10:31

me to sing

Tanner 10:31

words cuz I won't get

Andi 10:33

Tanner will hilariously get the words wrong

Tanner 10:36

Yeah. in a way

Andi 10:36

that you could never imagine possible that

Sups 10:39

a person get the

Andi 10:40

wrong.

Sups 10:40

Yeah,

Andi 10:42

part, yeah, I'm trying to think I feel like I would have noticed before that there was Spanish. Right? Like

Tanner 10:48

it like really soft?

Andi 10:49

Yeah. Right. That's what I mean. Like don't you think you would've noticed

Tanner 10:52

this? Yeah. Because if you're singing along, you'd be like, Was that Spanish

Andi 10:55

there is a part where, you know, like the second vocals come in,

Tanner 10:58

Uhhuh,

Andi 10:59

I thought they just like repeated what the lead singer says, and now I'm like rethinking everything about my entire life. Yeah.

Tanner 11:06

an interesting breakup song cuz it's. Literally it's talking about breaking

Sups 11:10

up and everything.

Andi 11:11

Right, right. It's like a pre breakup though. Pre, because it's like right

Tanner 11:14

before

Andi 11:14

it's, should I stay or should I go? I'm still debating

Tanner 11:16

still debating

Andi 11:17

it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if I should, right. Yeah. But I also kind of always thought that the interpretation of that song, that I understood was that it's more like this is a person I shouldn't be

Tanner 11:26

with. Yeah.

Andi 11:27

So it's like, should I say or

Tanner 11:28

I It's

Andi 11:28

toxic? Yeah.

Tanner 11:29

I stay it will be double. Yeah.

Andi 11:32

It'll be trouble.

Tanner 11:33

Dang it. I dunno the

Sups 11:35

I

Andi 11:35

I leave, be double.

Sups 11:37

it'll be double

Tanner 11:41

Yes.

Sups 11:42

The toxicity levels will rise. Yes.

Andi 11:45

It's gonna

Tanner 11:45

so. Become double I thought so. close though.

Andi 11:50

oh my God. Okay. Alright. So do you think it's real though?

Tanner 11:53

Well, every time Spanish comes up with soups, I always think, is this just a way to learn it better? Like, did you just translate songs you like in your Spanish class because. This would be a very good one to just translate and practice the conditional or something

Andi 12:10

Yeah. Yeah. You should, Yeah. so

Tanner 12:12

I'm very skeptical on that.

Andi 12:14

Yeah. but I will say though, if that's the lie, this is extremely impressive lie. Yeah. Yeah. They wouldn't translate at all the lyrics and then read them and stuff. So eight And it's also one of those things where it's like, how did I not notice this before? So maybe it's not that I'm unobserved, maybe it's cuz soups made it up. Maybe. I want to believe that's true. All right, so we have one more to question before we decide.

Sups 12:37

fact number four, she's out of my life by Michael Jackson was originally written for Frank Sina.

Andi 12:46

Ooh. Very different artists,

Tanner 12:48

All right. very

Sups 12:49

different artists. Okay.

Andi 12:50

okay. I

Tanner 12:51

know both artists, But I do not know the

Sups 12:53

the song Okay. Let me make it slightly easier.

Tanner 12:57

misery.

Sups 13:00

She's out of my life. She's out of my life. and I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I don't know whether to live or die. And it cuts like a knife. She's out of my life. yeah. So This is from Michael Jackson's fifth album. Off the Wall. Quincy Jones, who was the producer was actually saving this song for Sinatra, but at the same time, exploring ideas on how to give Heavier themes to Michael Jackson And he had been carrying the song for like three years finally when they were like making this album, they were like, okay, This is your song. Go for it. And they did like eight or 10 takes and Michael Jackson was crying all the time. And

Andi 14:09

that's

Sups 14:09

what made the song like so popular the song came out in 1980 and it was number 10 at the billboard top 100, and this was the first time any solo artist achieved. Four of the top 10 songs

Andi 14:25

Oh. Like at the same

Tanner 14:26

Taylor Swift just got All 10. Yeah.

Andi 14:27

Swift got all

Tanner 14:28

10. Yeah. So Michael Jackson got four. Oh,

Andi 14:32

Okay.

Tanner 14:33

That is a hit. That is a series of hits in a row.

Sups 14:36

Yeah.

Andi 14:36

I this was the peak of, of his career. So one, why didn't Frank Sinatra do it?

Sups 14:41

I mean, he was never approached. So this producer, Quincy, Jones who had the song he, yes, he was planning it. Frank Sinatra would be ideal, but because at that time he was working on this album, he thought that, okay, let's try and do something. Yeah.

Tanner 14:55

So it was written for Sinatra. Exactly. But then it was put on Michael Jackson's because of Quincy Jones.

Andi 15:02

was like a Sinatra vibe mm-hmm. in It reminds me of Beyonce, another classic breakup song. Irreplaceable. It was supposed to be a country song. Yep. And they gave it to Beyonce and she made it a hit it's interesting, like it's a very different style for that artist as well though. So it's a very similar story. Yeah. So maybe that's the real imagine maybe that's the song that this fact is about

Tanner 15:26

true. What is it? Irresistible, irreplaceable

Sups 15:30

just said it.

Tanner 15:31

I don't know the song.

Sups 15:32

Irres, this. How is, how is Irresistible a

Tanner 15:36

a break song? I dunno. Music

Sups 15:37

How do you re

Andi 15:38

He doesn't think, it doesn't make any sense. He's like, I remember it started with Ear and ended with bull and I don't

Sups 15:44

remember

Andi 15:44

the part in the middle.

Tanner 15:45

a hundred percent. if

Sups 15:46

Okay, I got you. I got you.

Andi 15:47

got you. So, either that lens credence to the story. Mm-hmm. knowing that this happens not infrequently or that's the lie, It's tricky

Tanner 15:58

a good point. It could be a lie in different ways. Yeah.

Andi 15:59

Yeah. But here I am brokenhearted because of those is not true. You've been lying to me, baby

Sups 16:06

Oh, That's what I do.

Tanner 16:10

you've

Andi 16:11

been, telling me lies.

Sups 16:12

we can We out

Tanner 16:15

Are these from songs?

Sups 16:20

it's Robert. hit song called I Should Have Known

Tanner 16:23

Okay. Okay. Okay. I have to look that one up.

Sups 16:25

Wow.

Tanner 16:26

Before we guess, Which of the four facts about breakup songs is a lie? Could you please repeat the four for

Sups 16:32

us? I can. Fact number one, Justin Timberlake's. Crimea River is an ode to his unfaithful ex Britney Spears. Fact number two, high energy electro power pop song Love Kills is the debut single of Queen Fact number three. The third verse of should I stay or should I Go, has backing vocals in Spanish. And fact number four, she is out of my life by Michael Jackson, who was originally written for Frank Sinatra.

Tanner 17:14

Wow, that is tough.

Andi 17:15

Yeah. I feel like to me the first one is the most believable of the four. Yeah. Okay. So I'm gonna throw that one out. I still think it could be a lie cuz you never really know these celebrity couples and whatever. But I'm gonna ignore that one. Number two, I feel like could be a lie, but I don't know what it could be. Mm-hmm. So I'm also gonna throw that one out. even though I should know queen's first single. Yeah. So then I'm looking at three and four because I have made up stories for how the lie would be, and now I believe those stories, which is always like the dumbest thing. This is exactly how you get duped, is by believing some story. Yeah.

Sups 17:49

Yeah.

Andi 17:50

Don't even make up these stories.,,I made up these stories about Exactly, and now I'm like stuck on them and I wanna believe they're true, even though I know they can't both be true at the same time. That's a good point. I'm going to say that number three is a lie because I think it would be really awesome soups just translated the lyrics. also like, it's not impossible that I don't remember that being in the background. Like, cuz that song is a mess, right? It's loud and there's a lot of things going on. So like, I could have missed it.

Tanner 18:17

Mm-hmm.

Andi 18:17

I want him to have

Tanner 18:19

have made

Andi 18:19

up.

Tanner 18:20

Okay. I'm leaning towards the queen one, so I know a lot of hits by Queen. I don't know this one, so I think it's a different single of theirs. That was their debut. that's how I'm leaning towards Adventure

Andi 18:31

a guess at which one. You can only name one other queen song you

Tanner 18:34

I know a lot of his

Andi 18:36

to be. Yeah, exactly. you just said it. Yeah. Name one No, we

Tanner 18:41

other,,other

Andi 18:42

song than Bohemian

Tanner 18:43

Raps. We are the Champions. Okay. Yeah. So I think

Sups 18:46

Let's do that one. Alright, we got fact number two and three, is fact number two love kills. Is Freddy Mercurys for single, not the

Andi 18:56

Oh no,

Sups 18:58

That he released as a

Andi 18:59

it's an imagine moment. Oh no, it's not a Queen's song.

Sups 19:07

Queens for single. It's a complete opposite in terms of the title. it's called Keep Yourself Alive.

Tanner 19:14

It's like the

Andi 19:15

the

Tanner 19:15

image of it.

Sups 19:15

Yeah, yeah. yeah.

Tanner 19:16

Wow.

Andi 19:17

See, I, I knew it was gonna be something like that though, where it's like, you should know

Tanner 19:21

Yeah. So it wasn't one of the songs I named I,

Andi 19:24

No. And those stories I made

Tanner 19:25

myself

Andi 19:26

are completely because of course they are.

Tanner 19:30

just have a very, very vivid imagination,

Sups 19:33

Yeah, yeah,

Andi 19:34

you have, broken my

Sups 19:35

heart.

Andi 19:35

I need to go and write out these feelings in, song.

Sups 19:39

All right.

Tanner 19:40

I should have known.

Andi 19:41

I should have known Thanks for listening to this episode of the I Should Have Known podcast. We'll be continuing with our anti Valentine's theme for the rest of February, and as always, thanks listening.

Sups 19:56

I dunno if it's a breakup story or an orgy.