Under the Sea Movies - Under the Sea Theme

Jump in the lifeboat, because we're going under in this week's episode! To finish up our Under the Sea theme and season 3, Quizmaster Sups went fathoms below to bring up four facts about undersea movies. But one of his facts is as false as a deal with a sea witch! Join our hosts Andi and Tanner to see if you can find the thingamabob in his collection, or you'll be a poor unfortunate soul saying "I Should Have Known!" 

• Follow and subscribe! linktr.ee/ISHKpodcast 
• Rate and review! Apple, Spotify, Overcast 
• Chat with us on Discord! 
• Send your topic ideas to us on Instagram, Facebook, or the I Should Have Known website. 
• Read more: www.ishouldhaveknownpodcast.com 

Transcript

Andi 0:01

I think that was, I feel like Phish was a very natural expansion for

Tanner 0:06

Yeah. It

Andi 0:07

That makes sense. Right. Honestly, it sounds more of a lie that James Cameron would mess it

Tanner 0:12

up. because he cared

Andi 0:14

so much

Tanner 0:14

of other details.

Andi 0:15

Yeah, that would be hard to believe. Mm-hmm. like actually this animated kids movie isn't accurate. That's not actually what she is like, yeah, No Hello and welcome to this episode of the I Should Have Known podcast, the trivia podcast that can't be trusted. Each week our Quizmaster presents you with four big facts on a topic, but one of those facts is a lie. We're finishing up our under the sea theme for the month of May with an Episode hosted by Aquiz Master Soups and soups is going to be presenting us with four facts about four movies that are under the sea. But remember, one of his facts is Eli, they're Join me, Andy, and her other host Tanner in figuring out which one it is.

Sups 1:00

Yes. So Let's take a free dive with the low hanging fruit. Mm-hmm. How many Disney the Little Mermaid movies are out there?

Andi 1:09

Wait, what?

Tanner 1:10

More than just one, I would guess One.

Andi 1:12

Oh, did they do like sequels? oh, I bet they did. Like the straight to VHS sequels. And then are we including the Noom

Sups 1:19

one? Yes.

Tanner 1:20

I'm gonna say four.

Andi 1:21

I think it's three.

Sups 1:23

It's actually five.

Andi 1:25

oh no.

Sups 1:26

All right. So you have the Little Mermaid in 1989. Yeah. You have the Little Mermaid two returned to the sea in 2000. You have the Little Mermaid aerials beginning in 2008. Wow. You have the Little Mermaid Live in 2019, and then you have a live action of the original, the Little Mermaid, 2023.

Andi 1:46

Wow. Wow.

Tanner 1:47

Oh, that's A lot.

Andi 1:48

They have been nursing that one for a while. Mm-hmm. I have seen one of those.

Sups 1:53

One of those. Okay. Cool.

Andi 1:55

That's actually, I probably watched that second one as a kid, even though 2000, I don't know how into Disney I was in the year 2000. Yeah.

Sups 2:04

All right. We are gonna do four facts, four movies All right? Yeah, Fact number one, if

Andi 2:10

seen any of them because we keep having,

Sups 2:13

no, I think you've seen

Tanner 2:14

it.

Sups 2:14

of these

Andi 2:15

Okay. Well you said

Tanner 2:16

that

Andi 2:16

about every movie episode every time. I'm like, no,

Sups 2:20

This time I tried to keep it simple.

Andi 2:22

Oh boy, I'm

Sups 2:23

Okay. Fact number one, Pixar Green Lit. finding Nemo After hearing only one word. Fish.

Andi 2:31

Okay. I have seen Finding Nemo.

Tanner 2:33

great movie I totally believe this because, I mean, Pixar. movies they're all really good, so I think if they're just like a Phish movie, yeah. We'll make it good.

Andi 2:43

Yeah. I feel like this would be the kind of anecdote that you would hear about Pixar. Like, that sounds believable. like, how literal it is, maybe. You could be skeptical, but it sounds like the kind of story that Pixar would tell Yeah. And also like Pixar style of animation is just begging for an underwater version, so I would imagine Yeah. They're fish. Oh, done.

Tanner 3:05

I feel like every Pixar movie and a lot of Disney movies you can boil down to one word like that, you know, toys, yeah. Fish cars,

Sups 3:12

yeah.

Andi 3:12

Kind. of, I think the, appeal and part of why it works.

Sups 3:15

Mm-hmm. So finding Nemo is the story of Clownfish Marlin, whose son is captured in the Great Barrier Reef and taken to Sydney, and he sets out on a journey. To bring him home, right? Yeah. The movie was released in 2003 by Pixar, And director Andrew Stanton, who's also the voice. Behind Marlin. he went to propose his idea to Pixar's Chief Creative Officer. Mm-hmm. and his reply was you had me at Fish. Like you didn't need to narrate like the whole story. Yeah. And then he green lit the project. And as a result of this the demand for Clownfish as pets skyrocketed. oh

Andi 3:55

like I said, this sounds like the kind of origin story that you hear out of Pixar, especially pre Disney, Pixar. Mm-hmm. So this sounds about right. Mm-hmm.

Tanner 4:05

out.

Andi 4:05

the lie would maybe be something like, oh, actually it was really hard to get this one made. Mm-hmm. And that they had to try many, many times and It bounced around and I think that was, I feel like Phish was a very natural expansion for

Tanner 4:21

Yeah. It

Andi 4:21

That makes sense. Right.

Sups 4:22

Okay. Fact number two for Mission Impossible Rogue Nation, Tom Cruise, managed to achieve six minutes of static breath holds after two months of training.

Tanner 4:34

Whoa.

Andi 4:35

Okay.

Sups 4:36

have you seen Mission Impossible Rogue Nation?

Andi 4:39

No.

Tanner 4:40

no way. You could probably convince her that that movie doesn't exist.

Andi 4:44

Honestly, you could Are we doing a fine in the

Tanner 4:46

face? Yeah. I think you made up that movie.

Andi 4:48

I don't even think I've seen the original mission impossible in its entirety. I've seen bits and pieces, Mm-hmm. What year did this come out?

Sups 4:56

This came out in 2015. no.

Tanner 5:01

I do know that Tom Cruise famously likes to do his own stunts. Yeah,

Andi 5:04

yep, I know that. So that kind of makes it sound real, but six minutes. Yes. wow.

Tanner 5:10

That's a long time to hold your

Andi 5:12

breath. I get annoyed after like 30 seconds. I'm like, nah,

Tanner 5:15

Why please

Sups 5:16

Yeah, so Rogue Nation was of course. Not necessarily an underwater movie, but it's underwater scene remains one of the most. highly acclaimed action scenes Tom Cruise trained for two months to become a free diver. And this scene where Eaton Hunt, he has to dive into an underwater safe to retrieve the computer chip. That will lead him to the villain.

Andi 5:41

Were writers just trying to be like, what can we get Tom Cruise to do? He won't do this. He won't do it.

Sups 5:46

So the stunt first required crews to jump off a 120 foot ledge. This was not cgi And this underwater set was filled with 20 feet high. Water and Cruz had to hold his breath and also act at the same time. Yeah. So the scene took about two weeks to shoot. but he trained for two months

Andi 6:07

so he held his breath for six minutes.

Sups 6:10

Correct.

Andi 6:10

See, that's where I think maybe the lie is. Mm-hmm. I think Tom Cruise definitely does his own stunts. Yeah. I can totally believe he did this. Mm-hmm. I bet the scene is six minutes of the whole movie. Mm-hmm. But he didn't hold his breath that long. Cause that seems absurd. So long. That is such a long time. Who can hold her breath that

Tanner 6:26

Yeah. I mean, yeah. I believe all the other things. He trained for two months, he jumped over the ledge. Whatever. Six minutes is so long.

Andi 6:33

Six minutes is so long. no offense to Tom Cruise, but like, He's just a guy. Yeah. this isn't his job to hold his breath. Like I imagine people who hold their breaths you know, free divers they've trained since like childhood in order to be able to do this.

Tanner 6:48

Yeah. I don't know. Pretty impressive. Yeah.

Sups 6:51

Fact number three. Titanic was the first ship to use the SOS distress call.

Tanner 6:57

Mm.

Andi 6:58

the real Titanic

Sups 6:59

And also in the movie. Yes.

Andi 7:01

Okay.

Sups 7:02

in the Yes. Yes. You can see them using it in the movie. Yes.

Andi 7:06

I have seen this one.

Sups 7:07

Yeah. You have seen. Wow. Congratulations.

Andi 7:12

That's I know. That's pretty good for me. For me. That's good. What the last movie one we did, I was a. Big old goose egg.

Tanner 7:20

I remember when the captain Says just send out the distress signal. Mm-hmm. After they hit the iceberg. Yeah. First time. Mm-hmm. In history. Seems kind of unbelievable. Like ships go down, not infrequently.

Andi 7:33

All right. I mean, they don't even have to completely sink for you to have a distress signal, you know? Anything.

Tanner 7:38

Fire. A Fire you could hit something. Yeah. Correct.

Sups 7:40

so s o s This is a Morse code distress call. there isn't a full form it just is sos but people have come out with their meanings. So it was first proposed in 1905. It was from the German government maritime regulation. Then became a worldwide standard in 1906 and it became effective in 1908. And before that time, there was another distress call. Which was the norm, Uhhuh, which is C Q D,

Andi 8:10

SOS is the easy one because it's repeatable. Mm-hmm. It's fast. Yeah.

Tanner 8:16

Right. And you're definitely not saying anything else. Yeah. Right. It's unambiguous.

Andi 8:19

a word. Yeah.

Sups 8:20

Yeah. So, in the movie the captain sends a distress call They first sent a security However, in reality, the security D call was replaced by SOS the same year that Titanic went down.

Tanner 8:32

And uh Oh, you mean in the movie They sent C Q D, but in reality, Titanic sent out sos. sos.

Andi 8:37

That doesn't sound very James Cameron.

Sups 8:40

Yeah.

Andi 8:41

the dude changed the stars in the sky cuz they weren't Right,

Tanner 8:45

In the

Andi 8:45

re-release. Right.

Sups 8:46

And also the problem was because SOS was still so new Not all captains and ships knew about it, so they didn't recognize and they didn't really come for help.

Tanner 8:58

Oh, no.

Andi 8:59

I'm very skeptical of this because one, if it came out in 1908, that's four years before the Titanic went down, No other ship had a disaster in four years. Pretty sketchy. Honestly, it sounds more of a lie that James Cameron would mess it

Tanner 9:14

up. because he cared

Andi 9:16

so much

Tanner 9:16

of other details.

Andi 9:17

Yeah, that would be hard to believe. Mm-hmm.

Tanner 9:19

That's a pretty key scene to mess up. Mm-hmm. Hmm.

Andi 9:22

This, to me sounds very much like something people would say. Mm-hmm. But I bet is totally wrong. So then it's tricky because it's like, well, is that a lie? Right? Because I bet you could find sources on the internet that would say this.

Sups 9:35

Mm-hmm.

Andi 9:35

I don't believe

Sups 9:36

sources. Okay. Yeah,

Tanner 9:37

sure. Yeah. Pretty skeptical of it. Yeah.

Sups 9:40

Okay. Fact number four in the movie, the Little Mermaid. Ursula the villain technically isn't an octopus,

Andi 9:48

Okay. So great movie. Yes. Okay.

Sups 9:50

So

Tanner 9:50

you've seen three of the

Andi 9:52

I have seen three of the four. That's decent, chunk. I don't know if I've seen any of them as an adult though. Okay.

Tanner 9:58

Yes.

Andi 9:58

line, I'm guessing she has like more than eight tentacles. Is that where the issue

Tanner 10:03

Mm, I think it's The tentacles. Yeah.

Andi 10:05

Right. Okay.

Sups 10:06

So The Little Mermaid first Disney movie to use cgi. The movie released in 1989. And of course we have a live action version of the movie the movie won two Oscars for its music. So the Little Mermaid story, as we all know, is a fairy tale written by Danish author Han Kristin Anderson is the journey of a mermaid who's willing to give up her life in the sea to have a human soul. original story, of course, is much darker. Yes, because she lies at the end. Anyway, the main villain in the movie, or Ursula, so she doesn't have eight tentacles. She has six plus her two human arms.

Andi 10:43

Ah. Oh.

Tanner 10:44

Ah.

Sups 10:44

reportedly, because animating the tentacles would cost too much money.

Tanner 10:49

But they already had six.

Andi 10:51

Can't have two more. Weird

Tanner 10:53

She has to have some

Andi 10:54

human They saved a lot of money on the

Sups 10:56

Yeah. two Yeah. And the early sketches of, or Ursula, was actually inspired from a Baltimore based drag queen called Divine, but she died a year before the movie released. So she could not, she

Andi 11:09

could

Sups 11:10

see her character come to life.

Tanner 11:12

She has such a unique design Yeah. In the movie. Oh yeah. she's not really like the evil stepmother in other Disney movies or anything. She's very unique.

Andi 11:21

Yeah. She's pretty scary too though. yes. It's like, doesn't she become giant to try to sink a ship at some point? Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's pretty awful. But it's very interesting, We talked about this with the God episodes, like, you know, we hear a lot about mermaids. Mm-hmm. But any other combination of human and Oh, true sea creatures. There are lots of

Tanner 11:40

them. Right. Not just fish in human. Mm-hmm. But also octopus in human or

Andi 11:45

and human, yeah. It's one of those things though, where it seems like, it's not that hard to just come up with it

Tanner 11:51

Right.

Andi 11:52

and also, I hate this kind of pedantics thing of like actually this animated kids movie isn't accurate. That's not actually what she is like, yeah, No Like Phish also aren't chubby. Yeah. Yeah. She doesn't have a beak and like giant eyes and those weird, no nostril, whole things. Siphons where they murder each other or have sex with each other. Yeah.

Tanner 12:16

All of the above. Yes.

Andi 12:20

Right. Octopuses are so weird. Yeah. Um, Mermaids do not exist.

Tanner 12:25

I mean there's a sea God in the movie if you

Andi 12:27

hear sciencey about

Tanner 12:29

And then for kids, it's

Andi 12:29

also part of the fun. is that like it's stuff that doesn't exist. Yeah. So, yeah, Ursula not actually being an octopus that totally checked

Sups 12:36

Mm-hmm. Of course she isn't.

Andi 12:37

a human

Tanner 12:38

Yeah.

Sups 12:39

Yeah.

Andi 12:40

But yeah, I think the fact probably that one I'm not super duper skeptical on because it's one of those things where it's like, of course she's not an octopus.

Tanner 12:47

yeah,

Andi 12:47

So I actually have seen many of those movies since that's kind of shocking, the sort of interesting facts about some underwater movies. But can you repeat the four of them before Tanner and I try to guess which one is the Lie?

Sups 12:58

Yes. Fact number one, Pixar Green Lit Finding Nemo after hearing only one word, fish. Fact number two for Mission Impossible, rogue Nation, Tom Cruise managed to achieve six minutes of static breath holds after two months of training. Fact number three, Titanic was the first ship to use the s o s distress call Fact number four in the movie The Little Mermaid or Ursula the villain technically isn't an octopus, one of them is a lie.

Tanner 13:38

All right. the second one definitely sounds unbelievable to me.

Andi 13:43

holding your breath for six minutes.

Tanner 13:45

could even be not an underwater

Andi 13:47

scene, You could Yeah. Honestly, like everything about that. You could have made that up and I'd be like, oh, I have zero idea. that's a cool lie. I like that. But it is unbelievable, even the six minutes. Yeah. But it is also one of those things that it's like, I guess it could be real. Mm-hmm.

Tanner 14:02

yeah, but I really

Andi 14:04

number three, number three, number three is a mess. I don't like anything about it. Yeah.

Tanner 14:09

I, I, don't

Andi 14:09

like James Cameron

Tanner 14:10

message.

Andi 14:10

up.

Tanner 14:11

I think that it's kind of unbelievable to me that the Titanic would be the first one because it's like, you know, so superlative. it was like the biggest at the time, it was unsinkable for it to also be like the first time SOS was used. I feel like I almost would've come across that before.

Andi 14:27

Yeah, very much so. It also sounds like a folk saying that people would make up.

Tanner 14:33

Mm-hmm.

Andi 14:35

It could be an early one. Yeah, I could believe that. Yeah. The very first does seem a little unbelievable There's like four years in there, Where another ship could have used it. Right. For me, I feel like if in the movie you know, I'm betting on James Cameron. Right. Like if, if He, used, he got it right. There's no way he

Tanner 14:51

messed

Andi 14:51

like Right. You know what I

Tanner 14:52

saying? Like you have so much faith

Andi 14:53

if he used the other one, then that was the one that the Titanic actually used. Yeah. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm.

Tanner 14:58

Because was. So you're saying either the Titanic wasn't the first one because other ones were already using it, or Nik wasn't the first one because it wasn't out yet. We didn't even use it. Yeah. Two ways it could be a lie. Right.

Andi 15:10

Interesting. So I think that Maybe it's number three? Yeah. I just convinced myself. Okay.

Tanner 15:15

I think I'm gonna go with Tom Cruise then. I think he does his own stunts, but six minutes is a little too much.

Andi 15:20

Yeah.

Sups 15:21

cool. So we've got Tom Cruise and Titanic. Mm-hmm. So, the current world record for breath holding Is 24 minutes and 37 seconds?

Andi 15:31

What? How,

Sups 15:32

they pre-B breathe a hundred percent oxygen. Oh.

Andi 15:36

let it out real slow.

Tanner 15:37

Oh, okay. So that's kind of almost cheating, but

Sups 15:41

you hold your

Tanner 15:42

Breath, shirt. Yeah.

Sups 15:43

all right. And the lie is fact number three. The Titanics radio operators even in the film, they were using C Q D since it was more established and people knew about it, because when SOS was ratified, not all countries were signatories. For example, US did not sign So even though it was signed in 1908, it did take a while for it to catch up. Mm-hmm. Globally, it only caught up. The Titanic sync after, because this was

Tanner 16:13

shorter.

Andi 16:13

shorter.

Sups 16:14

code and you could do it faster.

Tanner 16:16

it was like the push to get

Sups 16:18

Yeah. Yeah. worldwide and before it was only C Q D, Yeah. Oh,

Andi 16:21

and so that's in the movie? Yes. In because James Cameron would

Tanner 16:24

not

Andi 16:24

have made that mistake. It was accurate. Yeah. Okay. Alright. I

Tanner 16:29

Ctd.

Andi 16:29

it. James Cameron would not have messed

Sups 16:32

Yeah. Yeah. So

Tanner 16:32

it really was released earlier than the Titanic? Yes. But it wasn't in wide

Sups 16:37

Yeah, exactly. So after 1912, then it became like the norm for all the ships

Tanner 16:42

Got it.

Sups 16:44

sos.

Tanner 16:44

Wow. Yeah.

Andi 16:45

Okay.

Tanner 16:46

That's pretty good. I should have known.

Andi 16:49

Thanks for listening to this episode of the I Should Have Known podcast. We are finishing up our Under the Sea theme with this episode, and actually we are finishing up our third season of the I Should Known podcast. And in June we will be starting season four, is exciting, And if you are excited, it would really help us out if you just real quick. Click five stars wherever you listen to podcasts And as always, thanks for listening.

Tanner 17:19

No spoiler.