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Andi 0:03

Hello and welcome to I Should Have Known More. This is our behind the scenes bonus episode that we do each month for our patrons. So thank you very much for supporting the show. today we're talking about our Asia theme. So we did Sri Lanka, dumplings, Pokemon. And Hindu deities. So if you have not listened to those episodes, do that before you listen to

Tanner 0:29

listen to

Sups 0:30

think this is Not because of my

Andi 0:32

of my Not because of

Sups 0:36

It's one of my favorite themes that we've done so far. Yeah.

Tanner 0:39

I really liked the diversity of the topics. you know, we did food and, um, specific facts about a country, like it's history and everything, and then like a huge cultural export, and then like

Andi 0:51

I had to make up a god. Yeah.

Sups 0:53

Right.

Tanner 0:53

Which is like,

Sups 0:54

incredible.

Tanner 0:56

We like to keep the podcast fun and light. and Let's talk about religion.

Sups 1:03

But yeah, but let's start with, um, Sri Lanka. That was the first episode, for this month, I

Andi 1:07

Well, I actually, I wanted to talk about our personal experiences with the continent of

Sups 1:13

to Asia. Okay, yeah,

Andi 1:14

little bit. So, I mean, I think listeners should know by now that Supes, you're from Asia. I do have a question for you Soops. And you don't have to answer it if you don't want to, but it's just, do you identify as Asian?

Sups 1:26

Asian? No, I was just about I mean, happy to answer that question. because I was just about to bring this exact topic up that I think Indians, because I don't know if it's like how the western world thinks of Asia or portrays Asia. But generally when you're having a conversation about Asia in the Western world, India or like West Asia, Or Middle East, for example, because for me that's West Asia. It doesn't really fall under, Asia. Asia. yes I am from Asia, I would rather identify myself. as I'm from the subcontinent. Yeah. Right? because One, Asia is so diverse, but also I think Asia is just everything.

Tanner 2:07

everything, the

Sups 2:08

The South and the Far

Andi 2:09

East. Yeah, I do think that most people, they think Japan, Korea, China. They think East Asia when you say Asia.

Tanner 2:16

when

Sups 2:16

I mean, even Indians living abroad, right? In America or somewhere. When you say Asians, you never mean the Indians, Right.

Tanner 2:24

the Indians.

Sups 2:25

Or the Pakistanis or the Sri Lankans. Yeah.

Andi 2:27

Yeah. I know I kept calling you the Asian. I mean, technically, yeah,

Sups 2:30

been Asian. I

Andi 2:32

And you're certainly more Asian than I am.

Tanner 2:33

Yeah. Right.

Sups 2:35

When it comes to identity, I think I would identify myself more as from the subcontinent.

Tanner 2:40

hmm.

Sups 2:40

that area is so huge itself, that's why this whole part from Afghanistan up until Sri Lanka, like it's a continent

Andi 2:47

a subcontinent, Yeah. I mean, it's also, I think, important to remember that Asia doesn't actually exist, Geologically, like it's connected to Europe and it used to be connected to Africa as well, though now it's not

Tanner 3:00

to

Andi 3:03

Yeah, and then and then when you go into the pacific, you know, where does that end? So like it's it is kind of important to Think about that like It's a very very big umbrella and I do agree that I think it's bigger than most people Think it is.

Tanner 3:16

Yeah, I think that's interesting that We didn't really push the envelope on like something that isn't Asian, you know, because when you

Andi 3:23

really I mean, I talked about Kazakhstan and I think people would debate

Tanner 3:26

Yeah. When you get into it, it's like, what counts as Asian? you know, it's interesting because it's artificial. We named it that we've set up borders. but

Sups 3:35

To me, when we discuss anything about Asia, I think one of the most fascinating examples for me is the country of Georgia, because Geographically, right, they are in Asia. But they really don't want to identify themselves. They like, we want to be, politically, of course they're pushing to be a part of the European Union. want to say that they think more like Europeans. And to me, what was really, really interesting is that when I was traveling, Georgia. I think like every second, like, people from, like, our parents generation ask me, What do you think about Georgia, is it more Europe or is it more Asia? So I think They really want to get rid of that Asian identity, and they want to portray themselves as more

Tanner 4:19

more European.

Sups 4:20

which I found very fascinating.

Andi 4:22

yeah, that's a good point. When you start getting closer to Western Asia, because like I was saying, Europe and Asia. There's not actually like a distinction. It's a man made distinction for the most part. There is a tectonic plate that goes through, the middle of the continent. But, I don't know how many listeners know this, but when I first moved to Poland, I thought there were only 48 countries in Europe, which is not exactly true. I made a goal for myself to go to 48 of them in four years, which is 48 months. And to do that, I had to do the most expanded definition of Europe, which includes 51 countries, including Georgia. countries that are Asian and

Sups 5:00

European.

Andi 5:01

Because there are a lot of countries that are both. in Turkey. Kazakhstan, Russia, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan. All of I considered to be Europe. And think some, a of travelers consider But yeah, there are countries that are both. so I got in an argument with quite a few people like online about this, that Georgia's not Europe. hate to break it to you, but Georgia's not Europe. And it's like, why do we even bother making all these

Sups 5:32

They play in the Eurocup, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Andi 5:36

it's pretty

Tanner 5:36

these are man made. We shouldn't be

Sups 5:43

Yes. these are man made. I think we should repeat this. The borders are man Made. Because that's not how, the planet

Andi 5:52

So It's interesting that we, you know, we said Asia and we did the big, umbrella, but I think we did talk about like what you were saying where like, really, you shouldn't call it one continent. You should really refer to like the major regions as those regions because they're really different. I mean, Kazakhstan and Thailand are technically on the same continent, but like they're very, very different countries. like

Tanner 6:15

very very different countries. Not Completely but like, at least they're

Andi 6:22

I mean, not completely, but like, at least they're very, very far apart from

Tanner 6:27

Yeah, So

Andi 6:28

yeah, so I think that was interesting. And I wanted to know what you had thought as the resident Asian. Yeah, The resident subcontient. Subcontinental.

Sups 6:38

Con. Continental. Continental. Sub Yeah.

Andi 6:42

Yeah. Now, did you want to talk about the Hinduism episode?

Tanner 6:46

Yeah, I mean, that one was especially interesting for me because I came in Fresh, you know, blank. I know like five Hindu gods, I would say. Now I know three more.

Sups 6:57

Name, the five that you know.

Tanner 6:58

Okay, we got Vishnu, Krishna, Ganesh, Shiva, Kali,

Andi 7:03

Well, that's five. Yeah,

Tanner 7:04

five.

Sups 7:04

you, you know the most important ones.

Tanner 7:06

yeah, yeah.

Sups 7:07

that's enough.

Tanner 7:08

Yeah. And then Brahma like, I mean, that's a big one. But that's mostly from like studying in college, I had to read the Bhagavad Gita and I had to like, learn about culture, history and religion in the east. And So specifically, we read like A book about people in Thailand, one in Vietnam, and one about Hinduism. But There was no chance I was gonna get that god right. Unless it was one

Sups 7:32

of those guys. I didn't hear the names of any of these gods, So which also goes to show that how diverse and big this religion is and how different it is. Something that I mentioned in the episode like if I say I'm a practicing Hindu, way I practice Hindu would be completely different than another person who, even my neighbor, like, would practice a completely different way. And I think that's one of the beauty of this religion. which is why when I heard the names of these gods, when I first heard I was pretty sure that this is fake. like, You know, I was

Andi 8:12

I mean, it's a Sanskrit word.

Tanner 8:14

Yeah, it's

Sups 8:15

No from the description? like, you know, Yeah. Yeah. Not as the name per se, but from when you said, because in India also, you don't study religion in school. You don't study religion, religion. There are religion inspired stories that will be in literature. right? So that's how you get introduced. But growing up, this was a ritual every Sunday at 9 a. m. would be, I think, it'll be like the story of Shri Krishna or Ramayana would come on TV. So it was like a ritual you'd have breakfast watching, watching, these. And like they'd be recreated as dramas in television. So I think every family would just watch it and that's how you just learn all of. yes. Yes.

Andi 8:59

fun. That's way more fun than having to read a book about it.

Tanner 9:01

It's a

Sups 9:03

So a lot of visual learning and then you hear from others talking about it. So, which is why I thought my Ramayan knowledge was pretty

Tanner 9:11

was pretty solid. I started

Sups 9:13

Yeah. Yeah, but then I was like self doubting myself. So I was like, Maybe I forgot

Tanner 9:17

there's so many, you could easily have

Sups 9:20

Yeah. Yeah.

Andi 9:21

That was my biggest problem, was that, like, trying to find something that isn't already a Hindu deity,

Tanner 9:28

That's always the issue

Andi 9:30

like, some of them it was like, oh my god, there is something like that. So that's why I went to Marvel, I was like, something in Marvel will be, but I do think that he fit pretty seamlessly into the

Sups 9:42

Yeah. I think, yes. Yeah.

Tanner 9:44

I The fact that those creatures exist in the mythology, you know

Andi 9:47

so I tried to add some details but I really struggled with that one with the difficulty because I have no context for. What the average Indian would know. I knew that Tanner knew nothing. And I think most of our American or European listeners probably know very little. But I don't know, what is a, an average Indian know? I don't know. And then I was like, is Supes know more than the average person? I don't know. So I kind of erred on the more difficult side, I think. Like, I picked a goddess from the south because I knew you probably didn't know that. Like,

Tanner 10:15

Nice. Tailored

Andi 10:16

I was playing, with Supes and that a little bit. It because my worst nightmare was that you would know all of them and then you'd have to sit here and pretend

Sups 10:24

here and pretend. Right, right. No, I can guarantee you that I wasn't pretending. Uh, I mean, all of those names. as I said, Pushaan came back to me later. Not because I know this, God, I just know people. named, you

Andi 10:37

That's kind of what I had figured. Like what I know about the Indian, education system is like, did Sups have to memorize the 33 gods who are like of this? You know? I was like,'cause if he had to memorize them, he'll know the name. Right? Right. Yeah. in the equivalent would be if someone had to, you know, you have to memorize all the names of the muses. So, if you hear the name, sure, you know this name, but you don't know what that person, that God does, but you know, yeah, so like, that was the one I thought you would

Sups 11:03

Yeah. initially didn't come to me and that's why we were talking about this whole goat thingy, right? And then I think it just clicked. I was like, wait, I do know someone who's named Pushan. so I'd guess it's not like a random name. Like It's definitely, you know, in India, it's very common be named after gods or divine figures. Yeah, I mean south, yes,

Andi 11:25

figures. Yeah, I mean south, very little. The North and in West Bengal and so I was like, well, then that's not gonna work.

Sups 11:42

Yeah. Definitely. I think, I think, yes, that's why you did it very well because if there are like some gods from the North, yeah, I'd have definitely heard it in passing, Right. For some way. Uh, south

Andi 11:54

like, you'd be like, oh yeah, I used to go to the bar on next to the temple to that

Tanner 11:58

I know

Andi 11:59

you know, or Whatever. I dunno,

Sups 12:01

but I think I have to commend you on your research and the way, because it's not easy. first of all, the topic itself is not a straightforward topic in the sense that, you know. Of course, you don't want to offend anybody, you don't want to, like, you know and also then selecting the gods because of how much variety we have. So I think you did it. Pretty well, I'm very

Tanner 12:21

really

Andi 12:22

you have. think you're I don't know how many episodes I've researched now, of all of them, this was definitely up there as one of the most difficult. There were several times when I doubted myself and I picked a different deity and I was like, no, I can't do that one. Cause I just, So yeah, it was hard and I did realize. Like how little I knew already. so that was interesting.

Tanner 12:44

Was kind of thing I

Andi 12:48

guys. I didn't want to say it too much in the episode because it seems a little bit like like

Tanner 12:57

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, what's the

Andi 12:59

of this? But like, for me it really helped to contextualize it with like the Greek and Roman pantheon and the mythology there because there are quite a few similarities and so it's like, for me that was like good context. but the difference there is it's not a living religion

Tanner 13:14

a living religion anymore. you're not a practicing

Andi 13:17

one's, no one's worshiping them anymore. So like, I just, I'm not going to offend anybody.

Sups 13:22

yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andi 13:23

but then I realized too that like, well, you know, they probably had a much more diverse group of gods too, once upon a time when it was a living religion and we've just lost them. So like, it's kind of interesting to see that like, well, with Hinduism, we can kind of see what it was probably like.

Sups 13:40

think ultimately, when you pull up, like Hinduism, like they say there are 33 million gods, So are you trying to say that all 33 million of them are Super unique, and there doesn't exist like a similar vibe.

Andi 13:52

Yeah. I mentioned a little bit in the episode how like, well, the Indo Europeans, these group of people, like, They were in Europe and in the subcontinent. So, like, of course there's similarities. They might even literally be from the same original

Tanner 14:08

community. At least they moved around, they talked to each

Andi 14:11

yeah. And they,

Tanner 14:13

Yeah, and even the people,

Andi 14:14

So, like, there were quite a few where it was like, like push on he's pan. Like, it's basically very similar position probably his name is actually might etymologically be related. So like, it is interesting that like, these things travel and like, there are probably more similarities than differences when you really like zoom out,

Sups 14:34

think more people should zoom out and see the similarities instead of differences, I think we need this in the present day

Andi 14:42

Yeah. Yeah. But then it is also cool to see some of the differences and to see, like, There were some very unique ones

Tanner 14:48

Right.

Andi 14:49

So like you were saying like they typically have mounts or they're typically like standing on something when they're depicted There was one goddess who? Her mount is a fornicating couple. Oh.

Tanner 14:59

Oh.

Andi 15:00

So I was

Tanner 15:00

okay.

Andi 15:01

Like that's, that's cool

Sups 15:03

Yeah,

Andi 15:04

she's one of the tantric tradition. So like, you know, you have different traditions too, and

Sups 15:08

tradition. thought that I would end up finding one from there. Because they

Andi 15:16

that I would end up finding one from there because they are kind of the more.

Tanner 15:22

sounding ones.

Sups 15:23

Fornicating couple. I'm trying to think.

Andi 15:26

I'm trying to think.

Tanner 15:34

you just made one up!

Andi 15:35

Tell me the

Sups 15:39

me the name.

Andi 15:41

She's the audacious incarnation of divine female energy.

Sups 15:46

so it must be, It has to be from the tantric. Yeah. Yeah.

Andi 15:48

a Tantric

Sups 15:50

So Guys, I'm not, I mean, Tantra sounds super cool and all,

Andi 15:54

Oh, um, don't worry, PBS Wisconsin has an article

Tanner 15:57

a lot of them.

Sups 16:00

article

Andi 16:00

Look at, look at our cultures are, you know. that's

Sups 16:04

was kind of afraid of using

Andi 16:10

I was kind of afraid of using a one like this because so many of our listeners aren't familiar with the religion that I don't want them to think of it as just like, oh, it's that weird religion where

Tanner 16:21

it's Gruesome

Andi 16:22

and bloody and they're on top of people boning and it's like, well, that's

Sups 16:26

think,

Andi 16:27

branch.

Sups 16:29

I think Your selection. of the gods were spot

Tanner 16:32

Yeah. You need some boring ones to balance out the

Andi 16:35

you don't think a guy with no

Sups 16:37

monkey I don't think they were boring by any means.

Tanner 16:40

mean, he's the meeting guy. He's pretty boring.

Andi 16:43

I thought that kind of meetings

Tanner 16:45

I'm going to pray to him.

Sups 16:46

Yeah. Because in Hinduism you do puja, so in my family, we do I think one, two, three, four, every year a four different gods. It's not really like a birthday. You can say, like, this is the birthday of that god, but this is the day when that God celebrated. So, yeah.

Tanner 17:04

That's cool. Like a feast day. Yes.

Andi 17:06

you have, like your household gods,

Sups 17:09

yeah, because my parents, they own a publication. house, so we have a lot of machines, so you have the god for machines. It's Vishwa

Tanner 17:17

Oh, Makes sense.

Sups 17:19

he is like anybody, who owns a car, computer, whatever. Whenever we'd get any machine, for example, every time we'd get a computer, a new computer, or something for work or something, the priest would come and bless the computer. Yes. The priest would come, you wouldn't drive a car before the priest. blesses, uh, Yeah. so any kind of machine or something so that it works, you'd take a coconut and you'd break the coconut in front of, the car. Yeah, that's something that you do, yeah.

Tanner 17:46

do. That's cool.

Andi 17:47

then now you know that like, you're like protected,

Sups 17:49

blessed. Yeah.

Tanner 17:51

Yeah. I mean, Yeah. that's, I can see so many parallels to other cultures that do the same thing. You know, we christen ships.

Andi 17:58

Yeah. mean, you pray to specific saints specific

Tanner 18:02

Exactly, yeah. You have to sweep out a new apartment before you move in. like,

Andi 18:07

You have to wash your window so Jesus can see you.

Sups 18:10

Ah, dang, okay. It's a

Andi 18:12

tradition, right?

Sups 18:13

I should do it before Christmas time.

Andi 18:15

I know. It's

Sups 18:16

Yeah. What about, Pokemon?

Tanner 18:17

Oh man, I could do ten episodes on Pokemon. It never gets old. Because it's very similar where There's such fertile information that you can research. There's a Pokemon about

Andi 18:28

about everything. Oh yeah, there are a thousand Pokemon and thirty three million

Sups 18:33

love, I love it Just in one breath you compared Pokemon to Hinduism. I think,

Tanner 18:39

Have I offended

Andi 18:40

everybody? Uh oh. Well, you offended me. Like, you have way, like, oh, only a thousand.

Tanner 18:47

We had equally tough jobs, yep. I mean,

Sups 18:50

I think that's a

Tanner 18:51

here is to offend people. so,

Sups 18:53

I think that could be a quotable quote. Pokemon and Hinduism have the same roots. It's the

Andi 18:58

don't have same roots.

Tanner 19:02

Not like I do. Yeah.

Sups 19:05

how did you get into Pokemon?

Tanner 19:07

I played the original video game when it came out when I was a kid. for the Game Boy. and then, like, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advanced, Nintendo DS, And then they got to, like, black and white generation I kind of stopped playing. I kind of got back into it with Pokemon Go. I tried the, like the trading card game for a while and stuff, and so I'm just pretty big Pokemon nerd.

Sups 19:27

Pokemon Go.

Andi 19:28

nostalgic.

Tanner 19:29

Yeah. Yeah. I really am.

Andi 19:31

mean, I have a Pikachu cup that I drink tea out of

Sups 19:33

Yeah. I

Andi 19:33

so I mean, I can't really

Sups 19:34

Yeah,

Tanner 19:35

I collected the cards and stuff.

Sups 19:37

big, I think they were, global export, weren't they? Oh, Yeah. Yeah.

Tanner 19:41

Some people say it's the most money making franchise in the world.

Sups 19:47

Okay. Even more than Star Wars or Star Trek? And

Andi 19:50

Yeah, because

Tanner 19:51

everything so much merchandise. So many movies and TV shows and Everything. You can think of that you can market, there's a Pokemon version.

Sups 20:00

also you also invented a Pokemon. So That was also

Tanner 20:05

It was very fun. Very

Sups 20:05

cool. Very interesting. I liked your approach of that. Even though I remember Andy and I, we were both critiquing

Tanner 20:12

both pretty good. I

Andi 20:14

I couldn't help it. Calligraphy, yeah. Yeah,

Sups 20:20

of it as a calligraphy. Yeah. But it's calling. callipers.

Tanner 20:24

yeah. Yeah. I came up with so many ideas and then they were all taken.

Andi 20:28

I like how Ganesh ended up coming up twice in two episodes. Cause like, that was the possible inspiration for the elephant

Tanner 20:35

exactly it's the copper Maharaja, yeah copper Raja. That was pretty cool. But, yeah, there's so many weird Pokemon that I ran into the same problem that Andy did where you make one up and then there's one like that. I wanted the hot dog Pokemon, and not only is there like the dough Fido But There's also like one called okey Dokey, which is like a dog,

Sups 20:58

Right.

Tanner 20:58

there's so many it's ridiculous But it's just, fun and it's so easy to like read up on them and then like make one, so

Andi 21:07

The only other topic I had written down was the discussion we kind of started in the episode about dumplings, but it's what's your dumpling prototype?

Tanner 21:17

dumpling prototype? I picture

Andi 21:20

Mm hmm.

Sups 21:20

I think of momos from Tibet those are the ones which are the most popular in India.

Andi 21:25

Tibet,

Tanner 21:26

most popular I

Sups 21:27

I grew up eating those. Yeah. They're originally from Tibet, but I think now Indians claim it

Tanner 21:33

I think of pierogi, because I kind of grew up eating them. Yeah. But I also immediately think, like, do you mean Chinese dumplings? Because I don't call pierogi

Andi 21:44

Yeah. And I've always called them pierogies. Yeah. But actually for me, when I think of dumpling, I think of like chicken and dumplings where it's just a solid or like a matzo ball, like a solid, dough. So it's actually not kind of unusual, but that to me is my prototype dumpling, Does it have to be in soup? In my head, it always is, so to me, dumpling is something not a pierogi,

Tanner 22:06

It has

Andi 22:07

to be something.

Sups 22:08

dumped

Andi 22:08

Sure.

Sups 22:09

they have to be dumped into something?

Andi 22:11

Uh huh.

Sups 22:12

I

Tanner 22:12

I guess in my mind I'm always kind of assuming that someone is translating it. Like, do you want dumplings? Like, You're thinking

Andi 22:19

Only

Tanner 22:19

just saying that.

Andi 22:20

if Polish people say that. a Polish person says it, then I know they mean pierogies because they think I don't know what

Sups 22:26

are. But That's also like the English translation in every Polish restaurant. that he'll,

Andi 22:31

not wrong. they are Polish

Tanner 22:33

right.

Andi 22:34

But I think what Polish people don't know is that for most native English speakers, especially in the us and then I also think in the UK we use the word pierogi. Yeah. Like for sure. Yeah. We use this word in English, my dad doesn't speak a word of polish. Except

Tanner 22:49

doesn't speak word of Polish. and

Andi 22:57

wrapped? No. See, actually, I think this is an interesting question. What's the definition of dumpling?

Tanner 23:01

question. What's the definition of dumpling?

Andi 23:09

Yeah, but what about like matin balls or chicken? Chicken and dumplings? Those are solid dough balls.

Tanner 23:14

Yeah, those don't really count. They would be like a dough noodle. It's more of a noodle. You know.

Andi 23:19

No, I would disagree.

Tanner 23:21

was getting pedantic and

Andi 23:22

definition's wrong.

Tanner 23:24

Wow.

Andi 23:25

Also, what about the fish

Sups 23:27

Yeah,

Tanner 23:28

Yeah, that's stretching.

Andi 23:29

Yeah, with the, with the filling is the, the fish is the wrapper, that's not

Tanner 23:34

an Inverted dumpling. This is stretching the

Andi 23:36

But there's, it has a filling

Tanner 23:38

I in my

Sups 23:40

Yeah, I think in my mind, when you say dumpling, there has to be a dough. the filling has to be inside the dough.

Tanner 23:46

there has to be inside the, dough, right? I think size is

Andi 23:56

but I think, so I think size is very important to dumpling.

Tanner 23:59

getting

Sups 24:00

Now we are getting

Andi 24:01

I think size really matters. I think a dumpling needs to fit in, like, one hand.

Sups 24:07

think we're just getting quotable quotes. throughout the

Tanner 24:10

Size

Sups 24:10

it comes to dumplings, Size matters.

Tanner 24:12

Hmm.

Sups 24:13

Do we want to say

Tanner 24:14

How big do you

Sups 24:15

and the rounder it is? It's uh,

Tanner 24:17

dumpling want it to fit in

Sups 24:18

your

Tanner 24:19

hand?

Sups 24:20

palm. Yeah. Like it.

Andi 24:23

or in your

Sups 24:24

Yeah. So which means King Kali can't be dumpling because King Kali

Andi 24:27

That's true, it's a bit too big. Oh, yeah. Or like a soup dumpling. I think it's like about your hand. So like an empanada is too big.

Tanner 24:35

a burrito

Andi 24:36

burrito. Clearly a burrito is too big. And that's why like people will say bao is a bun. But in that case, So another issue is it has to be on leavened dough.

Tanner 24:46

would that change it No.

Andi 24:48

because, Because that's bread. Yeah. Or a bun.

Sups 24:52

bun. Or bun, yeah. donut.

Tanner 24:55

man. I

Andi 24:57

These are the things I think about in like the middle of the night. Like, wait, how do you define dumping? Because if you start doing it, you'll be like, no, but that's not

Tanner 25:03

a dog. And

Sups 25:04

I think we are sitting here and solving the real problems of the world, guys. I don't know what the politicians are doing.

Andi 25:11

But we

Sups 25:12

are solving real world.

Andi 25:13

Yes. This is like what I would do in my semantics class. Well this is like a very common exercise in semantics where it's like define bird or something and not scientifically but the word bird or chair and it's like what are the features of it

Tanner 25:27

how do you exclude

Andi 25:28

how yeah and then what's more prototypical and what's more of like a outlier and it's so like dumpling that's a hard

Sups 25:37

one.

Tanner 25:37

Why are there no like British dumplings?

Andi 25:39

Because they don't

Sups 25:40

Is there anything called British food?

Tanner 25:43

They have

Andi 25:43

Mushy

Tanner 25:44

why don't they wrap Mushy peas and dough. Yeah, right. When beef Wellington kind of be a dumpling. If you could make it small enough.

Sups 25:52

think Gordon Ramsay will like literally

Tanner 25:54

if

Sups 25:55

have a few choice words for you. If

Tanner 25:57

If meat pies were small enough, they'd be dumplings.

Andi 26:00

Not if they have a crust.

Tanner 26:03

Mm.

Sups 26:04

And also I think you can't bake it. if you, If you bake it, it's not a dumpling, then, then It

Andi 26:09

goes in baking process as well.

Tanner 26:19

to

Sups 26:20

Can samosa be considered as dumplings?

Andi 26:23

what do you think? know, but you're right.

Sups 26:26

Yeah, they're fried. you

Andi 26:27

fry some dumplings.

Sups 26:29

But these are like deep fried. And Yeah. They're too bake. Yes.

Andi 26:33

But they're, they're getting there though. They're, they're, they have some dumpling ness, but they're not

Sups 26:38

entirely dumpling. Yeah. They have the characteristic of a dumpling, but they're not. a dumpling. What

Tanner 26:42

if you deep fried a pierogi?

Andi 26:45

Why? I

Sups 26:46

I think I've had deep fried

Andi 26:48

pierogis. Oh, well I mean, like, pot,

Sups 26:50

you Hot

Andi 26:51

count as

Tanner 26:52

dumplings. That's like the

Andi 26:52

the

Tanner 26:53

thing. yeah, yeah,

Sups 26:53

Yeah.

Andi 26:54

Yeah. Mm hmm. That's

Tanner 26:56

dumpling. Okay, that's a deep fried

Sups 26:59

Mm-Hmm.

Andi 27:00

Mm-Hmm.

Sups 27:01

think Every time I have this conversation, I always have this conversation about food. I think it's been throughout all the episodes in the I Should Have Known podcast, every time we've done like a food topic, by default, I've always not had food before, and by the end

Tanner 27:15

not food before. I'm like

Sups 27:18

Yeah. It's like a rule.

Tanner 27:19

We

Andi 27:20

Makes you talk more about

Sups 27:21

it. Yeah. It's

Andi 27:22

Because you're thinking about it.

Sups 27:23

It's not like thinking, I'm like vicariously eating and talking about it. Yeah, okay. I think, we, we looked at a very sociological, cultural, etymological, perspective, a very unique way uh, of talking about dumplings. So That was also really cool.

Andi 27:40

Yeah, and I wanted to feature different regions of Asia that, like we talked about, like going back to the beginning of the conversation about, a lot of people maybe don't think of as Asian. I mean, we did Japan, because that's like most people's prototype, but we did Southeast Asia. And of course we talked about Kazakhstan, even though that was the fake

Sups 27:57

Mm-Hmm.

Tanner 27:58

about About in your

Andi 28:00

there anything you wanted to talk about your episode?

Sups 28:03

Sri Lanka. I think one of the things that stands out, I think we were talking about also like food.

Andi 28:11

like food.

Sups 28:12

Because curry now, I think, is such an abused word. you know, You've got a Japanese curry. You have a Thai curry. and you have Indian curry. your Sri Lankan curry. Malaysian curry. right? Indonesian curry. yeah, yeah. But every every curry is like the way it's prepared, the texture, the taste. the spice blend and all of

Tanner 28:34

that

Sups 28:34

It's so different. yeah, And that's something that I wanted to highlight.

Andi 28:39

to do. Yeah. And I liked how you snuck in,

Tanner 28:42

in, you

Andi 28:43

you know, a little something from

Tanner 28:45

home.

Sups 28:45

Right, right. I mean, I mean, I always look for an opportunity.

Andi 28:50

bit to sneak it in. Cause, you know, we did a whole month on Asia and we didn't really talk about it, but we snuck it in a little bit. Okay.

Tanner 28:58

That's Asia.

Andi 28:59

Cool. Well, Thank you so much for listening and for supporting the show this has been I should have known more.