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Brands brand radio again. Liz Callaway with next summer. Picking up your wake up with news opinion and insights every week morning on top 94.5106.7.

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It is 607 on the Liz Callaway Show with Nick Summers. Welcome to your Wednesday morning, April 29th. We are just a week away from our seven-year-idch party presented by HTC. Yep. It's a Conway Ford Talk Lama Lodge event. So not only are we getting together to celebrate our seven years of doing this thing that we're doing, uh, but we are also collecting toiletry items and beauty items for a Mother's Day gift basket. Yes, Movers for Moms does this every year with two men in a truck. And what they do is they collect these um these amazing baskets, uh, items for baskets, and they deliver over 60 of them to the women staying at the family shelter at New Directions. So I said, well, hey, what can we do to help? And our seven-year-itch um party is uh just before Mother's Day. It always is, right? The weekend. It's always the the uh a few days before Mother's Day, the week before Mother's Day. So uh it was seven years ago on May 6th that we started the show. Uh this time it's gonna be a Wednesday morning at 5 30. I'm sorry, Wednesday at 5 30 p.m. We're gonna be at the Voodoo Brew Pub right at Broadway at the beach next to Dave and Busters. You can see Voodoo's sign right from the parking lot. And uh we'd love to see you. They're gonna be presenting a happy hour buffet, and everyone that comes will be entered to win an iPad courtesy of HTC. So it's gonna be a great time. Um, if you want more information, just go on to our website or our Facebook page for it. And uh, I dressed us up like llamas on the flyer. It's so cute.

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Says you.

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You look cute as a as a llama. Uh-huh.

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A llama lover. Funny yesterday, because they, you know, I even though it's an example of listen with both ears, as my grandma would say. I always I hope Liz feels better. And I was like, no, it's a planned vacation day. She had off, it's no big deal. I said she's not sick. I said, well, maybe she's sick of me, but she's not sick.

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No.

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So and then towards the end of the show, they got it. So it was fine.

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They were missing me. They thought I was sick.

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Of course. Well, and and and I don't know if I accomplished what because the love note you left me, which I shared with everybody, try not to suck. I I I tried. So, you know, that that that's up to them, not me.

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I'm sure you did a great job. Um, yeah, I I took the day off because, you know, on today, today is my seven year anniversary with this company. Today? Today. So I had to take my last day off prior to um you know, my anniversary date. And that's why I was like, oh, I better just take it off. And it turned out Javi was off yesterday. So we just tinkered around the yard. Well, he did, I watched him, made him breakfast. But um but yeah, you know, it's I had a very busy weekend. Uh, you know, I went up to see my daughter in Spartanburg, and then we stayed at an Airbnb in Greenville, and it was a lot of driving, and yeah. So I I brought all four dogs with us. We stayed two nights. You know, by the time you like get into a rhythm, you're already packing up to go home, you know? Um, so we stayed in a place in the mountains, which was um you know, it's very cool. We went outside. The dogs of cause of course my dogs are trained to go to the bathroom at 4 a.m. because of my schedule.

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Right.

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So um they were up at 4 a.m.

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No sleeping in for you.

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But you know, the mountainside is not a place when you can't really see anything, it's not the best place to walk around at night. There's a lot of creatures. And we heard the wolves. Oh, then we heard the coyotes, yep, yep. Then we heard all sorts of creatures. I didn't even know what those were. And then we were sitting outside aliens, and um the mountain that we were on, right? It uh the property, it goes all the way down steep decline to the river, to the Saluda River. And you could see the river. You can walk down a trail to the river, it was very steep, but we did it with the dogs, and they had um on this property, they had these beauti, beautiful, clean farm, beautiful pigs. They were like the hairy kind, like the kind you would see like in a movie. Um, there were goats, there were rabbits, uh chickens and roosters, and so we went all the way down and we saw all the animals. It was but to watch the forest in a mountain wake up was so cool. It's like so quiet, so dark, and we were just sitting there, and you would only hear the wolves and a dog like in the faint background, like that Dalmatian movie, when they all start barking and howling to each other. That's what it was. It was like a dog down there, or a dog miles. It had to be miles away. I can't I can't imagine how but the mountains and how they would echo, it was so wild. I mean, I'm not used to those sounds, but uh waking up early is my favorite thing to do when you're in nature, and you could just listen to it and watch the morning wake up. It's just so cool. And I took some video of like the the wolves and it it was just wild.

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We we stayed at our resort in the Smoky Mountains and off the side, and you look out and it's just it's breathtaking, and you get the like this little where it's like you're not staying in like a condo, like in a hotel type thing, it's your own little place.

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Oh, I love that. Yeah, like a chalet in the mountains.

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That's the word I was looking for. Yeah. Ayuse. Ayuse.

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Not chalet.

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Right. It's a chalet. I was staying at a chalet because I'm all, you know, uh uppity and stuff and and cultured and things. Let me tell you, that chalet was pretty good. Anyway, so it but I know what you mean. The the the feeling and the what and it's like when you had to pack up your trash, you had to they you stick it in the ground with a metal cover, because if you leave it out, the bears come.

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Yeah.

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And you could see the bears running around.

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Oh wow.

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Yeah. So I know what you mean. It's it's it's amazing.

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And I was with my dog, so baby I had in like a carrier because I was so afraid she was gonna get gobbled up. She's so small, she's like six pounds. Um but the other dogs, you know, there was a lot of like t stone steps and things like that, and edges and cliffs, and I have a blind dog, you know. So that was kind of interesting. And they're, you know, they were all kind of old, you know. And so we're um walking around the forest, but it is beautiful and it the smell, oh, because then it rained like Sunday morning. It rained like overnight, and when you went outside and you smell that mountain air with oh my god, it was so amazing. That's why I need a house that like it's kind of like in the mountain, because you know what are they doing? It's icy.

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Stay home in their in their jelly.

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How long can you stay home for?

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You got everything you need?

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I mean, it's so icy. Um and I and I was telling Javier, I was like, you know, I don't even know how to start a fire. I mean, they had wood there and like a like a thing, and I I just was I would how do you start a fire? I don't even know. I mean, we did the sticks in Boy Scouts, you know, rubbing the sticks.

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You were in the Boy Scouts? Of course you were.

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Well, I was a cup like a dead mother.

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Oh, oh yeah, it explains it.

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I had to watch over those boys.

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Uh-huh.

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I loved being a Cub Scout mom. That was awesome.

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I'll never get to be a Cub Scout dad.

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Well, you could do Girl Scouts if you want. You know, scouting is fun. You know, getting that um what do they get? The Gold Award, Silver Award, Gold Award. You know how the Boy Scouts get the Eagle?

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Okay.

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Um, you know, because they have to come up with a project every year. And um one of the projects we did was uh making uh bird baths, you know, for the local like um it was like a kind of like a what do they call those places? Uh sanctuaries for animals. Sure. So we made some things for them, construction. Um, you know, we have the Pinewood Derby race, you know, you do I did that.

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Yeah. I was in it for two years. My dad was cool with it, and then I found baseball and I was like, Well, that's the thing, it competes with sports.

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It really does. But there are some people that really see it through and get the eagle after scout.

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Baseball, I found guitar and then everything was off.

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Well, that's okay. You found your own path.

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I I I'm such a horrible person with uh construction and and and building and carpentry and stuff that i in school we built a birdhouse. It was condemned by the fair housing committee.

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I think I built a birdhouse too. I think I did. I think I did. I used to love the iron working. Did you ever do the iron? Yeah, we did stuff like that. Like the plant holder.

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Yeah, and we did it.

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And you twist the iron and you heat it up. I used to love that.

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And we did we practice like spot was see, those are the things that they need to be teaching in school.

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Yeah, I'm you get excited about something. You're like, oh, I want to do this more.

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My mom still has, believe it or not, I only got a B on it because the sanding and you know, I didn't wasn't whatever. But she still has the pig-shaped cutting board that I made in high school.

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Gotta get mineral oil on it.

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Still preserve it. Yeah, she does. That's all. So how else would it have lasted this long? That's why it's lasted. But it didn't, you know, I f thought for sure when we were gluing this thing and you had to use the little dowels on it. I thought this thing ain't gonna last.

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Guess what? It did. That is so funny. I know. Yeah. We made stuffed animals in home. Remember, we used to learn how to cook, learn how to use the so I still sew. I sew all the time. I do alterations on all sorts of stuff. Um, I used to make my kids clothes and Halloween costumes. I used to love that. Uh but I learned it from school in home ech. And in college, I I was a minor in fine arts and a minor in political science. So my minor in fine arts, I got to do jewelry making. I loved jewelry making. That was so much fun. Learning how to solder, learning how to set stones. You know, it was really wild how to do it.

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But Julie just shared with us uh, you know, Brady. You know Brady from Pelican's Days, uh Brady's Eagle project at Warbird Memorial Park to get his uh, I guess his Eagle badge. What did he do? It's uh well you gotta click on the GoFundMe thing. I'm clicking on it.

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It says he has been uh dedicated scout since first grade, starting as a tiger and now serving as a life scout at age 16. He recently graduated from high school, he graduated early because he's smart.

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Brady is 16, he graduated high school?

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Yeah. Smart kid. I'm telling you.

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That's like two years early.

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I listen, let me finish telling you about Doogie Hauser here. Brady is working towards his Eagle rank by giving back to the community in a meaningful way. For his Eagle project, he is building a flag retirement box, installing four to eight uh footbenches and adding landscaping at Warbird Memorial Park in the Market Common. This project will provide a respectful place for community members to retire their flags that can no longer fly, ensuring that they are collected and retired properly with the help of the vet center of Myrtle Beach. So if you're interested in donating, you can find it on GoFundMe, Brady's Eagle Project at Warbird Memorial Park.

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Oh I love that. I'm gonna donate right now. I'm gonna donate.

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So, Julie, thank you for sharing. This is pretty this is awesome. It's great.

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I'm glad we talked about it. You see, there's a reason for everything. Reason for everything. I love that. I'll share it. I'll share it on our Facebook page later. Yeah.

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So um I still have a shelf that my I built and gave to my dad. Had to stain it, you know, we had to learn all that in in wood class. It's still because when he died, he left it to me. So I put all my little memorabilia up there. It's like, you know, about I don't know, two feet by a foot and a half, maybe.

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Uh-huh. It's uh stayed on the ground or you hung it?

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You hung it. You hung it. And so it's hanging upstairs in my music room. And I got like music stuff, my bobbleheads, you know, from the brewers.

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So I remember we made the um like the screw and nail holders where you screw the the um caps of jars onto wood. Do you remember that?

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No.

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And then you screw on the um so uh it's like baby food jars.

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Yes.

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And you would screw the top into wood and then you would hang it from somewhere. And then when you wanted to you would collect all your screws and nails all separately in these little jars. And then you would unscrew them, and then you would have them in the jar, and you could find the screw size that you needed, or the nail, or the washer. I remember making that. Do they still have shop class?

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I think they have gender studies now.

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Gender studies.

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It's funny because uh who's that guy? That Mike Rowe guy. He was talking about, you know, for the last 10-15 years, they were telling people learn to code, learn to code. He goes, now those coders are gonna be replaced by AI. No, it's not being replaced. Unfortunate. I it is unfortunate. I'm not rejoicing in that.

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I'm just saying coders were a big deal.

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I know, but you know who's not being replaced and is continuing that the need is continuing? Plumbers, HVAC guys, electricians, really good construction type people.

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You can't AI that nope.

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Yeah, not at this point.

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Yeah.

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It was a really interesting little clip, the podcast. It was like eight minutes, but everything you said made sense, and he's been preaching that for the last 15, 20 years.

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Well, you know, like for example, you could say, oh, graphic arts designers are gonna be obsolete because of AI, but I really think it's a tool for graphic arts designers to use because it is time consuming to get it right. Like I was making new, I was making up uh new flyers for upcoming events, and I was using AI, and it was just taking me like a long time. So you still it AI still eats your time because you have to tell it what to do. It's not literally in your mind, but it can create stuff, which is cool, saves time. So I may not need to actually create the graphic, but um, like our flyer for the um seven-year anniversary. I thought it was really exciting. I'd love to wait, AI made it.

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Well, you did good. I mean, other than me had a stupid llama uniform.

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It came that it was it was AI's idea.

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I I like your take on American Gothic for the tiny home planning party that's gonna be coming after that. That has that American Gothic feel.

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That was you know, the man and the woman. Yeah, and they they wanted I I said, here's what it is, and they came up with it.

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Julie just posted a picture here on our text line, Budget Blind's text line, because she's obviously uh scout mom of the Pinewood Derby car. Wait till you see the picture of this. You're gonna look at it and go, of course.

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Is it a USA one?

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Uh well, it has patriotic colors, but wait till you see what's on top.

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All right, I will check it out.

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You will say, of course, Julie.

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The Liz Callaway Show with Nick Summers, making Grand Strand Morning Radio great again.

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All right, it is 627 on the Liz Callaway Show. So we had a very interesting thing happen. We had another resignation slash retirement. So which is it? Um, I guess the person was uh eligible for retirement and they went that route, which means um I guess it means something when it comes to I don't know if they get pensions, I don't know if they get I don't know what they get, uh honestly. But there is a difference between resigning and retirement. But um this headline was that the actual headline, resigns? Or was it retirement?

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I think it's retirement.

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It's retirement, okay. So I just wanted to clarify that because that makes a difference. Um, but it says here documents provided to News 13 by Chief Chris Lenhart yesterday disclosed the recently announced retirement of Cha Chief Deputy Lance Winburne and the results of the internal investigation surrounding his actions. Do we know exactly what happened there? Is there a clip?

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There is. I've got uh WBTW uh reports on it. This is from last night at 11, so this will probably be the most current. Here it is.

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Developing story out of Ory County. You heard it there. We're learning more details about the retirement of a deputy police chief and what happened leading up to it. Newly obtained documents by News 13 showed during a 2022 arrest that deputy chief stepped in and had the charge drop mid-arrest. Investigators later determined that arrest should not have happened in the first place. News13's Jordan Titus joins us live now in the newsroom. And Jordan, you spent the day digging into these documents and trying to get answers. What did you find out?

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Chris Linhart released a statement today that said in part, the department is doing everything in their power to be available to the public. We asked twice for a sit-down interview with the chief today, but we're told the statement would be the only thing released. So we decided to stop by his office and ask again in person. I'm here to speak with Chief Linhart.

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Let me see. Hold on.

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We don't have anything scheduled for today, so if you want to contact our public information officer, okay, is he here?

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No, he's not here.

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He's downtown. Documents we've obtained show an April 9th internal investigation stems from a June 2022 arrest where a man was charged with misuse of 911. But internal HCPD investigators later found that that arrest was not proper. And records show while the man was being taken into custody, Winburne stepped in, instructing officers to turn around and only charge him with a traffic ticket. The April 9th investigation, now concluded, found the department policy back then was violated. Winburne's retirement announcement comes amid recent public calls to dissolve the department over claims of repeated breaches of trust and poor leadership.

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Unfortunately, it's happening a lot more than we think, and it's happening in our backyards.

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The timeline from 2022 to now also raising concerns for some county residents.

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I think it's a little ridiculous the timing of how long that it did take. We can't let just innocent people be taken away for a mistake on someone's part.

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Len Hart says the internal investigation began after a public records request was filed related to the incident, he says he wasn't aware of and happened under previous leadership. Winburn is now the third highest ranking member of Ory County police to leave in just over a year. According to authorities, then Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland resigned last year amid allegations of misconduct in the Scott Spivy investigation. And Sergeant Damon Viscovey was terminated related to the same case. At last checked, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division is looking into Strickland. And as the department says it's working to be transparent to the public, some say they're still waiting for more answers.

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Who do we have as American people? They're supposed to help us, they're supposed to be our voice.

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We've also requested Winburne's records today from the South Carolina Criminal Justice Academy and are waiting to receive those. We've also reached out to retired police chief Joseph Hill, who served as chief in 2022 and have not heard back. If you'd like to read on the full report, visit our website, wbtw.com. Live in the newsroom, Jordan Titus, News 13.

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I'm a little confused.

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Thank you, Jordan.

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News 13 has also filed multiple public records requests related to Ori County police command staff since we first began receiving tips last week. Count on News13 for updates.

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I'm a little confused. So the person who was sort of arrested, he was arrested, put in a car, and in mid drive, there was a phone call man saying, you gotta let this guy go. And so now that guy is suing the police department for false charges and false arrest and kidnapping. Um, the suit names Orie County Police Department, former Chief Joseph Hill, former Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland, North Precinct Commander Lisa Vault, and officers William Dietzel and William Dozier as defendants. And he is the son-in-law of Harold Worley, who was a county councilman. And I don't know if it was at the time, but I I don't really know. And Thomas Wade Long is a Little River businessman as well. Um his attorney alleges false arrest, kidnapping, and Fourth Amendment violations, and political retaliation because of some reason between um Thomas Wade Long or Harold Worley and it says here in the article there was another candidate that was running. He was facing a challenger, Jenna Dukes. Says here.

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I think I remember that election. I remember when she was running.

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The trouble began in May 2022 when a during a heated Republican primary in which Whorley, a five-term District Monk Council member, faced challenger Jenna Dukes. Long paid Paul Thompson to place a Whorley campaign sign on Long's own commercial property in Little River. Officer William Dozier visited the property and asked who had placed the sign, then followed Thompson with blue lights activated and forced him to remove it. The complaint alleges this amounted to political intimidation using political authority to suppress support for one candidate during the active election. Dukes went on to defeat Worley. The lawsuit alleges Ori County police defendants supported Dukes in that race. I don't know. It's very murky. I don't like talking about lawsuits because one side alleges another, but the fact that this person resigned.

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Retired.

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I mean, retired. We have to get the terminology right. Um, that he retired may just be like, you know what? I'm out of here. You know?

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I mean, there are times where you just look around at where you work and go, I'm done. I'm done. Has nothing to do with anything else other than That's how I would be.

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I would be like, listen, I'm taking my losses. Yeah. Um, yeah. So what is uh here's the thing I just need to ask you, Nick. Do we know this person who retired, does he have anything to do with this case? I did not see his name.

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I'm trying to figure out if it was him who made the call.

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It says though Wynburn is is not a defendant.

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Oh, then no. But I guess because he's a witness? No, maybe, or because he's in uh in command position and these are the people that serve under him.

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But he was the one who said, let him go. He was the one who instructed an officer to turn around and drop him off at a at a marina. So he's the one who I guess was in agreement that he would shouldn't have been arrested. Because Long was saying I'm falsely arrested. Right. So when it got to Winburne, he said, Stop, turn around, bring him where he needs to go. So are we talking about two different things here? That's what I'm asking.

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The lawsuit is not even naming Winburne. Right. You falsely arrested me, blah, blah, blah, kidnapping, all that. Put that aside. Now you've got this other thing where we're playing favoritism. Is that what they're alleging? This internal probe?

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That's the reason why he was arrested.

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Meaning that he, I mean, he from what I read in the article over somebody parking in a spot. Well, that's you can't call 911 because somebody parked in a spot. I mean, that's an emergency it's emergency calls only. So I I I don't understand whatever, whatever the threshold is, they determine that, you know, you can't do that.

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Can I can I tell you what this is? Because I know we're going to break, but I just want to put this to bed. We're always late. On June 6, 2022, Long, the guy who was arrested, was involved in a property dispute with TNT and Moore over his Little River commercial property. Multiple court orders protected both parties, including a July 2021 consent order from Judge Keasley and restraining orders issued by a judge May and June. Long attempted to retrieve a structure from his property. Employees of the neighboring business climbed onto his tractor. Feeling threatened, Long called 911, according to the lawsuit that was posted on WMBF. Roughly 45 minutes later, Officer William Dietzel arrested Long without explanation or citation. The complaint stated handcuffs were secured so tightly they cut off circulation. According to the lawsuit, Long was forced into a patrol car with no air conditioning in approximately 90 degree heat. After 20 minutes, he began losing consciousness and struck his head against the car window. During transport to the jail, Deputy Chief Lance Winburn contacted the officers, questioned the charge, and ordered them to turn around and unarrest him. Now that's the guy who just retired. The officer stopped on Highway 17, loosened the cuffs, then drove back to Little River. The arresting officer told Long, I have never seen anything like this. Long was issued a uniform traffic citation for unlawful use of 911. North Commander Lisa Vault allegedly told Long his court orders were not worth the paper it's printed on. So the internal review sustained a policy violation finding the arresting officers, finding against the arresting officers, but Winburne, the same deputy chief who ordered the reversal of the arrest, later overturned that finding. So now they're looking at why he reversed the disciplinary outcome.

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So is that their issue with him, the internal probe, why he said, I'm done. I'm up for retirement anyway. I don't need this hassle. I'm putting words in his mouth. I don't know that he said that.

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I mean, I think he was trying to do the right thing, it sounds like.

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To me, it sounds like it as well.

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Like what happened here, and you know, I don't know.

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I I will tell you this. Once again, after listening to andor reading a local news story, I know less than I did before I began.

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Yeah. Very confusing.

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So there's that.

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But it is a lawsuit, and that's why. Because there are two sides to every story.

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Yes.

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And then the truth. We'll be back in a moment.

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That would be three sides, right?

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All right. It is 647 on the Liz Callaway Show with Nick Summers.

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What? 647? Holy smokes are really nice.

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Oh, I know. Hey, I don't know if I told you, but the 600 turtles landed. Yes, you did. I did tell you. Did I tell you on the air? Yeah, you told everybody on the air. All right. So I wanted to thank Seaside Furniture Gallery and Accents because Kent, Julie, and the whole team, they kicked in all the money for the turtles, and uh Pervis Dermatology paid the shipping.

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Awesome.

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So that was really awesome. Um, and the shipping was like half the amount of the turtles, but uh they didn't charge tax, so it kind of was a wash, I thought. Tax, you know, I don't know. Same thing. Anyway, um, the turtles are amazing, and I wanted to thank them for that. And Lisa, the football mom, also kicked in. She was like the first to Venmo me. So it was like, here, here's somebody. So I thank her too as well. Um, and so we um we got all those turtles to Michael over at Meals on Wheels. They got delivered in 14 huge boxes, and uh, they will get distributed in August. So I know I got them early, but you know, I worry about things that are coming over from a slow boat from China because literally And through the Strait of H. I didn't know where it was like I didn't know where this war was going. I still don't know where the war is going. Is it Klopin still?

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I think it's still Klopin. So but there's a lot of early reports that Iran is basically on their knees. Now that is the wording coming from our administration. Yeah, but they're begging for a deal. Also, a lot of the other nations surrounding who you have to remember, nobody likes Iran. I mean, even the people of Iran don't don't like Iran, let's be honest. Yeah. So they're all saying the same thing. And you got the United Arab Emirates leaving OPEC. That was a big Saudi Arabia expected to be next. They all want to be independent, they all want to do their own thing, and also they know that they can't just rely on oil as their main and only source of income.

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Well, we talked about that.

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Yes, we did.

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Okay, so let me play this clip from let me see if it plays. Uh, I want to play this clip from CNN. Of course, it's gonna be a commercial. Um, I like commercials. Uh, but I want to play this clip that kind of explains what's going on. But um, Iran is also expected to to submit a revised peace proposal, sources say. Um, Trump said he's not accepting the earlier one, which is open the strait we'll open the Strait of Hormuz, right? If and and there was no mention of not having nuclear weapons or uh enriched uranium. Let's listen to this report on CNN. A founding member of OPEC.

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How significant a move is this? This is very significant, Becky. It brings a 59-year-year relationship to an end. And we just saw this posted on uh local media, and this is the statement. I want to read you a little bit of this because it gives you some insight into what the UAE government is thinking. They say this decision came after a thorough review of the UAE's production policy and its current and future capacity. And in view of what the national interest requires and the state's commitment to contribute effectively to meeting the urgent needs of the market. Meanwhile, uh geopolitical fluctuations continue in the near term through the disturbances in the Arabian Gulf and the Strait of Hamoz, which affects supply dynamics as the basic trends indicate, continued growth and global energy demand in the medium and long term. So just to give you a little bit of insight in terms of the UAE's uh, you know, capacity right now, in terms of what they want to be producing by 2027. We know they want to take that production up to around five million barrels per day by 2027 right now, in terms of what the OPEC um, you know, rules have been. It's around three and a half million barrels per day. So clearly there's always been sort of an undercurrent of trying to increase the amount of production from the UAE. But this is absolutely significant. We need to look at the timing of this while we're seeing restrictions in the Strait of Homo's, which of course has affected uh the movement of oil and products from the region, specifically in the Gulf states. And also quite important to note in terms of um the underlying messaging here, you've got to remember that Katama uh withdrew from OPEC in 2018. And that was a very symbolic move, moving more into gas. Here we have a significant oil producer, Becky, that is now withdrawing um from OPEC and OPEC plus countries. You've also got to remember that Russian joined uh the OPEC membership in around 2016. That caused quite a lot of questions in terms of the way that OPEC was looking at the overall production capacity of all nations that were included. But OPEC's premise, Becky, is about controlling supply and demand or stabilization of the oil market. We're looking at a very different scenario now, where we've got Brent crude prices sitting at$111 a barrel in a very new reality where you've got this energy supply shock coming to the fore, and the UAE taking uh this very interesting stance here. They also say stable global energy system depends on flexible, reliable, and affordable supply.

SPEAKER_04

The UAE in investing and involving, uh evolving efficiently and responsibly, prioritizing, they say, stability, affordability, as well as so who is in the OPEC um oil cartel, they call it Algeria, Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Garbon.

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I can't I can't.

SPEAKER_04

Gabon. Gabon, Gabon? I don't know. Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Did you mention Saudi Arabia?

SPEAKER_04

I did.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. They're predicted to be the next one out.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And others will follow suit, is what some say. I'm not an expert in those areas. Yeah. So I kind of lean on their expertise. And if they're really thinking that OPEC is somewhat dissolving or at least losing its control over the world's oil supply. Those of you old enough to remember the 70s and the embargo and the lines and the every other day. I mean, I don't remember that, but I remember hearing about it.

SPEAKER_04

So the latest is uh Trump has warned Iran, quote, better get smart soon. Uh there will, you know, don't make me a non-nuclear deal. Mediators of Pakistan are expected to receive a revised proposal from Iran in the next few days. Trump's Iran Claims says um he said yesterday that UK's King Charles agrees with him that Iran should not have a nuclear weapon, adding during yesterday's state dinner at the White House that the U.S. is doing very well. The conflict has become a source of transatlantic tension. Oil prices rose again today amid ongoing concerns over the Strait of Hormuz. UAE is quitting the oil cartel OPEC, a move that could allow them to pump more oil, yet prices remain above 110. So now they can do whatever they want. That is what the point is. They don't have to produce only what OPEC tells them to produce. And in Lebanon, despite a dis uh declared ceasefire, Israeli strikes have killed at least eight people throughout southern Lebanon um yesterday, Tuesday. So that is the latest um all caught up. But today, U.S. lawmakers will uh grill top military officials on defense budget at the congressional hearing. So you're going to be hearing from later today U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegsath and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Dan Kane.

SPEAKER_06

They will face in Kane.

SPEAKER_04

They will face lawmakers on Capitol Hill today. So this should be interesting. There's some rumors out there.

SPEAKER_06

I ain't buying it. Are those the same people saying Cash Patel's a drunk and he's about to be fired? Yes. Good luck with that. We'll see. Yep.