6 O'FIVERS ITS MAYDAY!!!! 5/1/26

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SPEAKER_00 0:01

It's 607 on the Liz Callaway Show with Nick Summers. Welcome to your May Day. Wow. Well, already up to May. Can you believe this?

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Happy holidays.

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Now we had a little dispute before we got off the air yesterday.

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What do you mean, a dispute? Who, you and me?

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Yeah, we were talking about what May Day was.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Yeah, but we were both right. Nobody cares. I mean, I just said, isn't that like a Russian thing? And you said, no!

SPEAKER_00 0:33

No, it's this. Like when you take the ribbons and you wrap them around the pole for May Day, the May pole, P-O-L-E, you know? No?

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Uh I never heard of that.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

It's like an age-old thing.

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Okay.

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That people used to do when they were like happy in the community.

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I missed that day in school about May Day. I know this. What's this? Well, I know this. When you said tie ribbons and such. So it made me think of this.

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I'm coming home after my tie. Now I've got to know what is an isn't mine. If you receive my letter, tell it you are free. What to do if you still want to be now what's when Tony is, but who's Orlando and who's Dawn? I hear the home business.

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Why are both women named Dawn? What's Tony Orlando? If that's his real name. And Dawn. But there's two women. Is one duh and the other one.

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Bus driver, please look for me.

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I forgot how horrible this song was.

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It sounded horrible. Really? Okay. Super popular.

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I know.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

It's got that little bouncy feel.

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I got your bounce.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

Hey, did you um I you know, I'm very, I'm very upset because now everything I shared to Twitter for the last 24 hours has not gone on to my talk Twitter. My other Twitter is dead. I don't know what happened to it.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

So you didn't get it back?

unknown 2:40

No.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

I thought you said you got it back.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

No, the talk Twitter. Talk Twitter's not dead. They suspended it. What? And then I I appealed that one too.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

Oh, I see what you mean.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

And then they they wouldn't let me post anything.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

They reinstated that one.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Now I I got that. I don't know why they would do it, but they said that it was hacked and it goes to a different email. Like, so when I go to restore, like reset the password, someone has confiscated it and is using their own email.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

And it was doing illegal activity, and therefore, um it was suspended and shut down. And I tried to appeal it. I want to try and get it back.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

You may not.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

But I can't. No.

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So look, I I just I I for for uh I logged into the talk X account on my phone, and a Lulu BF followed us. And their bio says seeking someone to do errands with. Should I follow back?

SPEAKER_00 3:49

What the heck does that mean? I don't know. Nick, I have a question for you because something bizarre has happened.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Uh I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

This is weird. I something's wrong. With this is a false, this is a fake talk 94-5 there. Our talk 94-5 has all my posts on it. Talk 94. Um, what do they call that? Underscore 5. But the one here on the computer, that's the right one.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

Okay, that's the one.

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That's the one where all my I've been doing on my phone.

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Yes, I see all your stuff.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

This is a fake one. That's on the computer here. This is at 5 underscore talk 92698.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

Ah, somebody spoofed us. Hackers are getting good.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Yeah, you're gonna have to log into our regular one.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

So what one is this, Nick?

SPEAKER_01 4:54

Uh a fake one. They do, they do that all the time.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

It started in February. Wow. I don't understand. That is bizarre. It only has eight posts.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

Yeah, that's not. And how many followers?

SPEAKER_00 5:22

It has two. It has one follower.

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Yeah, we're up n like two hundred and fifty. Which is not very many. So if you're on X, please follow us, but make sure you follow the right one. Which is at talk94 underscore five.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

I have no idea who this person is that's following us. And then I am following two. This is what is going on? That is so weird.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

We should get verified. But I doubt the company would want to spend eight eighty-three dollars a year.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

How do I shut this down? So this was reinstated. Remember, I told you it was suspended and then reinstated? It's the fake one.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

Oh boy. You have to log out completely and log back into Twitter using the right credentials. Whatever email address you assigned to our real Talk X page, Twitter page, and then Remember I said the the um the cover photo wasn't updated? Mm-hmm. That's why.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

That's why, because I'm looking at it a different one.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

Yeah. They grabbed the wrong one, wrong photo. No, I I um No, they, when they spoofed our account, they just they didn't have to do it.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Well, they did it back in February. There you go. And it wasn't updated. I don't even know how to log out.

unknown 6:40

I can't log out.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

I'm trying to log out. Um log out. Okay, log out. Sign in. Talk radio. Oh my gosh. I know this is really riveting radio, but I just had this epiphany that everything I've been saving on my talk Twitter, because the other Twitter was let me see if this one's the right one. No, this is the bad one again. You logged out? Uh-huh. It's attached to our email.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Wow.

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Who did this?

SPEAKER_01 7:18

I don't know. But I've got the right one on my phone because I'm looking right at it.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

Me too. I have the right one on my phone too.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

Yeah, we gotta figure that out.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Something happened here.

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We do have to report it. Someone has spoofed our account.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

It doesn't have any followers, but could they they it signed in on the wrong How do I sign into our Twitter? I don't even know. Oh my gosh, my email is totally erased. It says, What's your birthday? As if I'm signing up for the first time. Right. So I can't access the regular Twitter on my computer now.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

That's lovely.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

Mm-hmm. This is very bizarro. But the right one's on my phone. And I don't even know what the sign-in is for that. Is that a separate sign-in?

SPEAKER_01 8:21

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

You don't know what the sign-in is?

SPEAKER_01 8:25

For for our no, you gave it to me a long time ago. I signed in on my phone and that's it. Wait, you told me to take a picture of it. I have it. Wait, I remember now. Hold on. I mean, I don't want to be giving away our secrets here.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

No, I just can't re I can't remember what happened. This is like a revelation.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

That's what that's what you gave me. You told me to take a picture of it.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

And then it worked?

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Well, I was never logged out on my phone, so I haven't had to use it.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

Okay, so let me let me type that in here.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

I have a backup.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

Um, okay, so let me. Oh, it's already in here. Let me see if that's okay, it's already in here. All right. Now I'm on the right Twitter. Yay! Wow.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

See, this is what celebrating a Russian May Day holiday will do. Anybody, it's bots. But why would they spoof our account? To to get anything.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

How do I shut it down?

SPEAKER_01 9:19

You get what you have to report it. You have to copy the URL and send a direct message to, I believe it's uh X help or whatever it is. I I've I've clued in a few people that we're friendly with on X, and some of these people have, if you want to say celebrity status, like Dr. Samadhi, remember him? Uh-huh. He got spoofed and I let him know, and he said thank you, and he reported it and got it removed. How do I report it? I can't remember how you report. Hold on. I think you have to click on the little dots. Uh community notes, ads, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, space. I don't remember. There's a way to do it. There's a way to do it. I'll have to I'll have to do it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Well, now that explains the mystery.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Yeah. Now our page, our talk page. So don't follow. We only have like 250. 53. Yeah. Okay. So that's the accurate one. It it struck me as weird as the pictures weren't updated. I'm like, I know I did that. Let me do it again. And then here we are. Mm-hmm. Very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

Yes, Tim, you have the right one. Talk nine four underscore five.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Yes, that is the right one.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 10:35

Wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

That's the only good thing is if you actually know our physical handle, that can't be spoofed. They will do every derivative of, you know, 9-4 underscore five and then a space. I mean, they'll try anything.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

Right. But to end up. And do what? To do what?

SPEAKER_01 10:52

It's just a scam. I mean, if they can get one person to send them whatever it is that they're looking for, or get into your computer, hey, click on this link. There was something that was circulating in the music industry stuff for a while. It was like, hey, I'm up for podcast of the year. Could you click here and go vote for me? And there was like a big warning, don't click on it. Oh. Because it steals your information, it steals your login information. Then they steal your Twitter handle. And like there were several people that like said, I lost my account. I gotta start over.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

I know. So it's it's the maybe that's what happened to me. It's possible. Remember what we got the company wide email and discussion at one of the uh business meetings that we had or promo meetings or whatever they're supposed to be.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Yeah, but not on not about Twitter.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

Not about that, but they said that the phishing scams have gotten over the top. They're trying anything and everything, and almost fooled one of our business guys. That's how serious it was. Right. And he said, thankfully, he, you know, even the the the old even hovering hovering and yeah, right. So you gotta be really careful. Don't do any banking other than your app. Change your passwords. I know this sounds like a broken record. We had Rob Chang always tell us that from uh PC Matic, you gotta change your passwords. I went in, it's hard because we have multiple devices. Many of us have phone, tablet, computer, and when you change it on one, you know, and all of them gotta change, and it doesn't recognize you, and you gotta do two-step authorization, and then it asks you to look at your phone and agree, and you know, I get it. But it's better than having to start over with a new account. So that's why I was changing mine recently. We'll see if it works. I mean, you know, I've got I haven't gotten I got taken off Twitter for something they claimed I did, which I never did. And I had to because you didn't do it. Right. I had to sit in in jail for like four days. You remember that?

SPEAKER_00 12:44

Yeah. Remember our Facebook went away and then suddenly reappeared?

SPEAKER_01 12:48

Yeah, that was weird. I never out of nowhere. I never understood that. No explanation given. Because you know why? They don't have to. In their minds, they are a monopoly. You want in on this big party, you do what we say.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

You know, there's a big battle over AI between Sam Altman and Elon Musk going on right now. I know. It's uh I don't I don't pretend to understand it at all. But what's happening with AI, I mean, the horse has already left the barn, let's face it, right? Um and they've been using us all along because AI has always been in some form in operation, right? And we've been feeding the monster for a long time since the internet, since we're carrying cell phones. The phone knows your pattern. Like, you know, I get in the car and it says 12 minutes to get here, because it knows I'm driving to work at this time every weekday. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 14:01

I mean Yeah, it knows us better than we do, or better than we realize.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

And so it can anticipate what you're doing, what you're thinking, your movements, but the one thing it can't do, it can't physically touch you. The physical touch is not there. So the people, the millions of people that are having online relationships with a AI girlfriend or boyfriend, there is no physical touch. So I liken it to, you know, when you get a handwritten letter, it's like so novel. You see someone's actual penmanship, you're like, oh my gosh. You know, when I when I was going through all my parents' stuff and I would see the handwriting from my grandmother, even though it was in Italian, to my mom on her wedding day. Wow. And you touch it and it's energy, you know. And it means something. Handwriting means something. And so the human energy is not in AI at all. And you can sense it. It's dead on arrival.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

You just said it perfectly right there. The human energy isn't in AI. And that applies to everything pictures, yeah, fake music, all of it. You can see it. It sounds superficially, that's not bad. But when you really think about it, you're right. It's missing the human energy. You're a genius, Liz. No, that's it. I couldn't put it into words myself. I've heard other people try to say it, but nobody said it as well as you did just now.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

Because I feel energy from things, things that people had, like jewelry, you know, your dad's watch, your grandpa's pocket watch. It has energy. That tactile because they carried it.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

You know, yes, agree.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Yeah. Um, I always feel like that. And um AI does not have that kind of energy. You know, the kind of energy where you're sitting on the couch next to someone and you don't have to say a word, but you're together, and that's all that matters. Weeks we we live that every moment with our pets. That's why I feel bad for people who don't have pets and don't love pets and don't understand animals. But I feel energy from animals. A lot of you do, and you get what I'm saying. You can look into their eyes, you're you're talking to them, you're they they totally respond to your energy. When you're stressed out, they're stressed out. When you're sad, they're sad. I mean, they are like a mirror image of us, and their senses is are so high. I mean, look at that dog in that video with the attempted assassin. He knew that guy was no good.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Oh, yeah. I watched that twice too.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Oh, I watched it many times. I go, I was looking at seeing what the dog was doing. The dog didn't like him because he can sense the adrenaline.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

He senses the bad energy.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

Dogs they know.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

They're brilliant.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

Actually, yeah. Dogs will know when you're a pet person. Yeah. They'll come up and love you up and all that, you know. Yeah. Even if they don't know who you are. I mean, obviously, if the dog's trained to be a killer, well, it's not gonna like anybody, but that's what somebody did to that dog. Naturally speaking, a dog will sense.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

And senses when you're afraid, too. Energy, that's what they sense.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

Energy smell. They can sense before you have a heart attack, a seizure. That's why they're the perfect service dogs that way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

Have you seen the videos where it makes the person sit down before they have a seizure?

SPEAKER_00 17:51

So they don't hit their head.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

That is amazing to me.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Yeah. Actually, um, Rick trains them for that.

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There you go.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

Yeah.

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Here comes me on the guitar. Ready?

SPEAKER_00 18:03

So I was learning. Uh I I listened. Were you leering? I was leering. I was leering. I I've been thinking a lot about, you know, brain power. And I was thinking about, you know, like when you learn something new, how hard it is to learn something new. Like, I am dying to learn how to speak Spanish. I need a Spanish teacher. You ha you're married. It doesn't matter. He's not helping me. And so I've gotten apps, I've gotten workbooks.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

What happened to that Rosetta Stone?

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Isn't that like I I got Rosetta Stone. What's that other one that you babble? Babble, I got that already. I've gone through all the apps. Well, the people in the commercial in 20 seconds are talking Spanish and French. What's your problem? And I can understand most of I could get a gist of a conversation. I can't read a book and you know, but normally people in conversation use the same, I don't know, 500 words, right? Um, and so I could get the gist of what people are saying. But I need to like I want to learn Spanish. And that is a part of your brain. That's why I'm like always so impressed with Javier, because he's fluent in both languages and he can write in both languages. The one thing he is missing is pop culture references up until like 1990. He doesn't have any of our pop culture references. As if I were to go to Mexico and I wouldn't understand anything they grew up with. I would know nothing, you know? And so he doesn't know certain pop culture references. So I have to explain things that are like, you know, just we just know. And it's not even anything important, but it's just things that we just know. There's so much from growing up.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Right. Become part of the lexicon of our language.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Words that have quadruple meanings now because now when we reference whatever word that is, it absolutely totally means that movie scene or that or this and it applies to that situation. Yeah. And everybody gets it. Right. But if you never saw it and you haven't been exposed to it, you don't get it.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

It's not part of your culture. Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

And that's not your fault.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

That's just you missed up on that. And it doesn't mean you're dumb. No. It just means I don't get it.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Some people are dumb.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

It's like some people don't pay. Some, you know, for example, when they do those man on the street interviews, and you're like, what do you mean you don't know the street of whore moves? They're like, the what? Because they're unplugged.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

And I admire those people. Because I'm plugged worrying about the street of horror moves. You know who else is unfortunate? For what?

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Unplugged. You know who else is unplugged?

SPEAKER_00 20:45

No.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

The Amish.

SPEAKER_00 20:47

The Amish.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

I just wanted to bring that up again. There it is.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

They voted for Trump. They ain't unplugged. They're unplugged. How could they be unplugged if they know he's the better candidate? They're unplugged. You're sticking to it.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

I'm sticking to it. I can't tell you what the Straits of Hormoose is.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

So basically, what's happened is we have trained AI to get us in the end and eliminate us in many ways. So, but I have, I'm not worried about AI. I'm not worried about it. Because remember when we would, um this was my point. When you got you've got mail. It was so exciting. You got an email. You've got mail. Remember?

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Every time you turn on your computer? Yeah, I kind of thought it was creepy even back then. Do you remember with the Motorola phones? Just a little side note?

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

And they'd come and they what was their big thing? You'd open the phone up and it would like say something. What was that thing that it would say?

SPEAKER_00 21:55

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

It would talk to you and it was like so creepy. Because it sounded like You know. Somebody's watching you. Well, it was just weird. What did that somebody? Go ahead, finish your thought.

SPEAKER_00 22:07

Oh. Um. Yeah, so we would get an email, it would be so exciting. And now, if you get a handwritten letter, it's like, wow, that person sat down and wrote me a letter. And a lot of people say the best way to learn something is to take notes. Now, when I go to a convention or I go to a talk, I take notes. And I encourage people to do that because while you understand it in the moment and you're like, wow, that's a really great concept. When you go home, even if you take a screenshot of a screen, you know, a PowerPoint, it doesn't go in your brain. It's like you need to write it down. And our kids are missing that. The art of penmanship. Like, just look at how important the looking at the Declaration of Independence, right? The handwritten constitution. These things are handwritten documents. Beautiful calligraphy. I don't know if you've ever learned calligraphy, but I learned calligraphy and had the calligraphy pen. And it's an art. It's an art.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

Yeah, I found it.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

Hello moto. Oh, yeah. Remember?

SPEAKER_01 23:26

Hello moto. And it would like different voices. Remember that. I'm sure everybody's trying to yell at me right now on the text line. I found it. I don't need ya. So, um But yeah, it was creepy. I hated it.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

So the thing is what I'm trying to say is that we need to go back to these things and handwrite the note. You know? I wish I had every note my dad left on my bedside table because he used to leave for work so early in the morning. And he used to leave me little notes. And um I know people who have saved every single note their mom put in their lunchbox when they were a kid, and they just saved them all.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

We saved all of our notes, me and my wife. We have a little box, and we just like all the notes we used to write each other, and we still do. Like if she writes me a little fun little thing, we'll take it, we'll put it in that little box.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Okay. That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

And it's a well, you know, it's one of those little decorative boxes that sits in the corner of the things that we hand writ r have written to each other.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

And it's been almost 20 years. That thing is getting full.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Yeah. And so that's what I found about my mom, all the handwritten notes. She saved the car I don't know what it was, but they the whole family in Italian wrote a wedding card to her and my dad. Um, and it was like, you know, and they sent my parents sent a postcard, a handwritten postcard home. Remember, we used to write postcards when you would go on vacation? Oh, yeah. That was a really important thing. Finding the right postcard. I know. That's gone. That whole art is gone.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Side note the kids in my daughter's first grade class all wrote a paragraph handwritten. Handwritten. Not cursive, because it's first grade, you know, but they're handwriting stuff. And they made a book out of it. So on one side of the, when you open it up, and we got the book yesterday, when you open it up, it's the picture that they drew and then the book. For Mother's Day? No, it's just in general.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

We used to do that for Mother's Day. Write a poem and a picture for Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

The book's called The The Story of Us or something like that. And you open it up and every kid's artwork and what they said. Very cool. In their own handwriting.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

It's really cool. So we bought the book. I mean it's 30 bucks. So what? It's cool. Oh, yeah. But they're teaching them. This wasn't done on a computer. This was done on regular paper that they scanned and sent off to the company.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

Oh, they sent it to a company.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Yeah, we used to just get it on like Oh no, there's a hardcover, you know, a ditto sheet stapled together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

And you your mom, you would write a whole, you know, poem to your mom. Um, yeah, like things like that. You know, when you find your old, your grandmother's recipe and it's her handwriting and it's all stained from the kitchen, you know? That's so special. Javier has a whole notebook of like his mom's recipes because when she was visiting, he made her write down like all these ingredients, uh, all the different family uh traditions, and they made um she just wrote it like page after page after page, and every once in a while he takes it out and he does it. It's amazing. So I don't know. I'm just I'm just thinking about it. AI can't take that from you. It can't take it. You know, you can choose a a script font, but it's never your signature. It's you know, you can tell it's auto pen, even if it's a copy of your signature, right?

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

So I'm not I'm not afraid of AI. How I what I'm afraid of is, you know, how AI will be used to make us hate each other.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Because there is a lot of business in that. They want us divided anyway. We know that. It's been that way forever.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

When we come back, uh I was I was mentioning it's like the clash of the AI titans. Um, I want to explain a little bit what I think about this um, you know, what I know about this lawsuit.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Ms. Callaway and Nick Summers. We told you we'd be back. All right. Welcome to Mayday, Mayday, Mayday.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

Yeah. We'll talk about the protests. We have a couple of smatterings in the state. Doesn't seem like we have any nearby.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

No, Ory County, nothing.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

It's a communist thing. Yes. Um just like May Day is. Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

Told you. It's Russian holiday.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

It is. It's a workers. You know, like they always try to say workers as if it's, you know, but it's a communist thing. When they ever when they always say something with the worker in it, the worker party, or you know it's a communist thing.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

Communists speak for.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

Yeah, that's a dog whistle for communism.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Show me your papers. What's your gulag job going to be?

SPEAKER_00 28:27

So both Altman and Elon Musk, Sam Altman are co-founders of Open AI back in 2015, 11 years old.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Back when they were buddies.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

The original idea was to build AI safety as or AI safely as a nonprofit to benefit humanity. Did you know that? No. Musk helped fund it early and pushed AI safety concerns. Remember all those times he kept saying that AI is going to take over the world and we got to be careful? I do. Altman became the operational leader and later CEO, and they had a problem because Altman was like, hey, dude, this is going to cost tens of billions of dollars to get this over the finish line. And we need to have a profit model. And Elon Musk is like, no, this is a nonprofit. So he left, he left the board in 2018 and he kind of made his own thing, right? I forgot the name of his. Grok. Grok, thank you. So the core dispute, Musk's argument, he says, Open AI, which is ChatGPT.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

There is a premium mode of Grok. You can pay extra for it.

SPEAKER_00 29:44

All right.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

If you pay to be premium subscriber on X, which I do, to have that blue check mark, no big deal. Uh, you get Grok for free, but then there's a step up, too. So it's I'm just saying. Yeah. So yeah, he's making a profit too. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

OpenAI betrayed its nonprofit miss mission. It's now too closely tied to Microsoft. AI power is being centralized and commercialized. And Sam Altman says building advanced AI costs tens of billions of dollars. Without a profit structure, OpenAI couldn't compete with Google, Meta, etc. The mission benefiting humanity has not changed, just the funding model. The lawsuit happened in 2024. Elon Musk sued OpenAI and Sam Altman, claiming that they abandoned their founding principles and it is serving Microsoft. OpenAI responded by releasing internal emails saying Musk himself once supported turning OpenAI into a for-profit entity. He even proposed taking control of OpenAI at one point. So what uh this is uh AGI. Have you ever heard of that? AGI?

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Yes. Nope. Can't even think of what it stands for.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

So Altman um he wants to build AGI carefully, which is an artificial general intelligence. I don't know what that means. But that's what AGI means. I don't know how it's different from AI. Use partnerships like Microsoft to scale, which means it'll be like in every computer, I would guess, right? You know how there are certain things that are in every computer. Gradual deployment with guardrails. That's what his vision is. And Musk, he founded XAI in 2023. He wants truth-seeking AI, less filtered, more open, and he competes directly with open AI via Grok. So what we need to see.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

According to Kassura, an online tech thing type thing, said that AI is narrow specialist excelling in one task, whereas AGI would be an all-rounder generalist performing any intellectual task a human can, and currently resides in the hypothetical realm. So it's not I still don't know what it means.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Well explain that.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Okay. AI, just general AI is a narrow specialist excelling at one task. You know, if you've got AI, like what your Canva or whatever, and you want it to create pictures, that's what that AI specializes in.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

Um, AGI is an all-arounder, it's a generalist performing any intellectual task a human can. In other words, you basically have access to through a device something that will do anything.

SPEAKER_00 32:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

As opposed to like Grock just does this. So anyway, and by the way, just to they said currently, and this article was written two weeks ago, it live it currently resides in the um hypothetical realm. Hasn't been they're not there yet.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

All right.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

For AGI.

SPEAKER_00 33:03

Like, I don't mind AI doing menial tasks. Like organize this in a table. Or search.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Search is great for me. Yeah, I mean for search.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

Basically, we use it as a glorified search engine, which saves us tons of time. I don't have to read an article from this, from that, from this, and Google has been perfecting that for 20 years. Yes. But this combines it all into one simple copy. Um, and am I giving it information as to what I'm looking for and what I'm asking? Sure, you know. Um, do I use it to understand other things like medical terms or medications? Well, yeah. Well, I used to do that with the Merck manual too. Okay. But now I don't have to carry around a 20-pound book every time I want to look something up. Right? You gotta turn. The problem is that I don't know who's containing who's controlling the content. And I don't know if they're trying to move me in a certain direction or not.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

Yeah. And you know they will if they can.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

Well, you know, I never asked, should I, hey, hey, chat GPT, should I take the COVID vaccine? I never asked that question.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

I mean, who who runs ChatGPT?

SPEAKER_00 34:26

Is that I think that's OpenAI.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

Is that Google?

SPEAKER_00 34:29

No.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

Who's behind okay?

SPEAKER_00 34:31

I don't know. I I think Google has its own thing. So this is in day four. This whole what did you find out?

SPEAKER_01 34:41

I just decided to ask Google should I take the COVID vaccine? Because they have their own version. What's what's what's theirs called? Gemini. Uh the decision to get the COVID vaccine is a personal health choice made through a shared decision-making with your healthcare provider.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

Nice.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

That is an honest answer.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

I like it.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Yeah, I'm good with that. It's not telling you not to, it's not telling you to do it. It's telling you to do the research and talk to your healthcare provider.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

Yeah. Which I mean, if you asked me, I'd say no. Well, of course.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

They but it goes on. Vaccine, vaccination is especially important for individuals at a higher risk of severe complications. And then it gives you the immunocompromised individuals. That is a big word on a Friday morning. People with chronic conditions, you know, all what we were told way back in the day. Hey, this is what you should do if you're this. So it doesn't, it stops short of saying the jury's out, which by the way, the jury is out. And some members of the jury have already came in with their verdict. This thing is dangerous and a poison.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

Anyway, all right, so I just want to check. Go ahead. Well, anyway, if you want to follow the lawsuit, it's in day four. Um, it's a blockbuster civil trial. Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman, and Elon Musk has been on the witness stand. So Musk owns A uh XAI, the maker of Grok. And um, yeah, so I don't know how it's gonna turn out, but they're they're battling it out right now in court. Now Musk is talking about an AI Terminator scenario while he was on the stand. And that's not anything new. Elon Musk has been warning everybody about it. Uh he said, We're not going to talk about extinction in this case, told uh this uh uh judge told Musk before the Thursday recess. The reprimand came after Musk answered question about Tesla's robot-making business and his past comments about building a robot army. And he said, No, we do not make weapons. We don't want a Terminator situation. When asked about the situation he was referring to, he said, in the movie, it's not a good situation. Worst, it's the worst situation would be that AI kills us all, I suppose.

SPEAKER_01 37:20

So I'll be back.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

There's been a lot of talk about how AI they it has a special language and it can talk to other AIs in a special language that we don't know.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

I don't know if I like these guys are seeing it firsthand, creating it or watching it grow on its own. It's like when you have a child, right? You know, your DNA, the other person's DNA, it goes into this child, you try and do the best thing possible, and the next thing you know, they're getting involved in something that is like, what are you doing? Like, why are you doing this? You know, like you can do your best to make the environment correct and you do all the right things as a parent, but something goes wrong, and then the child, you know, comes back and kills everybody in the house, right? Yeah. You didn't grow up that child. That's what I'm likening this to. Like, you didn't purposefully hire a child family annihilator or a school shooter, but then that but then it happens, and then you're like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_01 38:38

Like so there are certain cases where the kid is just born with a head full of bad wiring, as they say. Yeah, I don't I don't know. And there is nothing you can do to stop it.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

I wish I knew the answer to that.

SPEAKER_01 38:50

Yeah, I don't either.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

Um, and when you have a child that is so um sociopathic where they have no remorse and they have like this this break in reality, and they fe they feel nothing and see nothing. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Which is why their behavior is to the extreme. It's always pushing the envelope within themselves to see if they can finally feel something, and they never do.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

Yeah. Well, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

It's horrible. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

Anyway, yeah, that's what's happening with AI. That's that's what it sounds like, right? So they made this baby, and now the baby is growing. And you know what? It's you know how it's growing? You and me. We are giving it all this information. We are contributing to AI, and we are the ones feeding the baby. We're feeding the monster.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

There's really no way out of it either.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Currently, where we are thing is is unplugged. Well, I know, but that's the only way.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

What business are you going to be in to make money, sustain life if you're not plugged in?

SPEAKER_00 39:59

But this was their model.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

I know, become an Amish farmer. I'm gonna drop that right there. Lizzie, you with me? I'm with you. Let's go. The Liz Callaway Show with Nick Summers, making Grand Strand Morning Radio great again.