Today I bring you Tatiana. A Shopify merchant just like you... She's ready and raring to go, but just doesn't know what to do with some areas of her business.
This is a 3 part series. Tatiana asks the burning questions everyone wants to know.
Get the checklist here: https://www.justaskparker.com/pages/podcast-ep-32-getting-started-the-questions-everyone-asks-part-1-of-3
Today I bring you Tatiana. A Shopify merchant just like you... She's ready and raring to go, but just doesn't know what to do with some areas of her business.
This is a 3 part series. Tatiana asks the burning questions everyone wants to know.
Get the checklist here: https://www.justaskparker.com/pages/podcast-ep-32-getting-started-the-questions-everyone-asks-part-1-of-3
Welcome to the Winning With Shopify podcast. The podcast that will teach you to take your Shopify store and turn it into an automated sales machine with the latest marketing, emails, sales and social media advice, strategies and tips from experts without the fluff. Your host, Caroline Balinska, the founder of justaskparker.com. The only small marketing task agency for Shopify owners. With over 10 years experience in marketing, manufacturing, design, and ecommerce. She shares her knowledge and interviews the experts to help you in your journey to success. Now here's your host, Caroline Balinska.
:Welcome to the podcast, everyone. G reat, great to have you here. Today, I have got something a little bit different today. I am bringing you a meeting that I had with a person in my Facebook group and I put this together as a video. I'm breaking this into three parts for the podcast and if you have not had more than a thousand sales, if you're just getting started, then you cannot miss this episode. This was brought together because of this particular client, Tatiana. She had some questions and I realized t here were questions that everyone wanted to know and I thought it was g oing t o help everyone immensely. And s he's a great example of someone that's getting started, has no idea what to do and has just gone full force and she's making it happen and it's amazing. So it's a really good interview to listen to. It's more of a workshop. I go through quite a lot of things with her and over the course of these three episodes, you're g oing t o learn a lot, so get pens and papers out and get ready to take notes because it's going to help you build your Shopify store, get more sales, get more traffic, and get started doing the thing that you want to do and that's make money.
Speaker 2:Don't forget to subscribe to this podcast and leave a review because it really does matter what you think about. I love to hear everyone's feedback, so I hope to hear what you've got to say. Subscribed to the podcast. I have lots of great interviews coming up over the next couple of months, so stay tuned to all of those. This particular one is going to be over three episodes, so let's get straight into it now and one more thing before we get into the session. Head over to justaskparker.com/podcast and look up episode 32 and you will find access to a document I created to go along with today's session. So in that document it's going to have a checklist of everything you need to know to get started from start to finish. This is the ultimate checklist that all of my clients ask for. Everyone who follows me asks for do you have a document that goes through a checklist of what I need to do to create a Shopify store from start to finish. And that includes all of the marketing things that we need to know. So head over to justaskparker.com/podcast. Look up episode 32 and you'll find the checklist there.
:Wonderful. Hi everyone, I'm Caroline Balinska. I'm really excited today. I always have such fantastic guests and today I have someone super cool who's got a really cool product and she reached out to me on my Facebook group. Ask them questions and I said, hey, let's get together and do this as a video so everyone else can find out the answers as well. So I have Tatiana, she is from Cyprus and she's here today to ask me some questions. I'm going to answer them. And the great thing is she's actually just sent me through a list of the questions. So I have taken a look and I can promise you that every single one of these questions is something that you have asked at some stage and a lot of you have not had answered yet properly.
Speaker 2:So rather than doing this as a little chat in a Facebook chat. I'm answering it verbally it's always easier for me and I get more of my points across. So I'll be doing some screen sharing and answering some questions. And then I want to go through, I've got a checklist of all the things from start to finish of what you need to know. So Tatiana is right at the beginning of the journey. So if you're listening and you are either at the very beginning or three months in and no sales, this is going to be really interesting because it's really great points in here as well. So I'm going to welcome Tatiana and let's talk to her. So, hi Tatiana, how are you?
Speaker 3:Hi Carolyn. Thank you very much for having me here. I was really surprised, pleasantly surprised when you offered me a conversation with you and uh, of course because I'm like all the others just beginning with all sorts of questions in the head and sometimes even the salad. I'm really grateful for grateful for this opportunity. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2:Fantastic. No, it's my pleasure. I'm really glad I'm here to help. That's really what I want to do. And the fact that you have such a great product, um, is extra reason why I want to make sure it gets out there because I think that there's a lot of people like you have who have great products and don't get themselves off the ground and end up spending so much money that they never get past that point and then they just burn out and they give up. So I don't want that happening to you and I don't want that happening to other people. So I'm excited. So tell us a little bit about your product. So everyone's, they're now saying, what is this product and tell us what your product is, how you chose it? And where you are in your journey so far?
Speaker 3:Yes. So, um, let me just tell you that I'm a 47 year old mom and uh, I have two kids for going to school. And recently, uh, actually when I was starting, uh, thinking about ecommerce, uh, that this is something that I should be doing. I was thinking what would be this interesting product that I can offer first? And the idea came actually from my son one day because I was wrapping his sandwich into a foil and then I put it in the plastic bag and I said, oh my God. I said, what is this? Is there anything else that I can put this sandwich in? And to be perfectly honest with you, in Cyprus, we have limited, um, exposure to this, this, uh, lunchboxes and the containers are mostly plastic. So I went and I made my search online and I realized that some countries are all far more developed than Cyprus. Uh, especially in western Europe. I think that this is quite, uh, not quite common, but in western Europe or Australia for example, people are becoming more eco conscious. They are, they're understanding, you know, the plastic is harmful and that it's leeching in our food and so on. So I said, okay, let me validate this idea. And I made this a survey, which I shared with some people that I know and with some people that I don't know and we realize that it's, um, it's a good idea. Okay. So I got my sample, which I would like to show you now. Yes, please. Yeah? This is the sample and uh, it's from China. Okay. I have, u m, some audience, they can see my name here and also my logo because I'm testing now different types of engraving. And u m, so I will start with this l unch b ox. It's stainless steel lunchbox. It's the highest grade and it's leak proof because I realized that this is something that moms are always looking, that it's leak proof so that it's not anything leaking in the, in the, in the school bag. Although, um, this is also, you see one of the questions, you know, what is my right niche? Is it only moms? I mean parents or is it only or, or also a working people like even millennials in the, in their twenties? You know, I mean, is it possible to have two niches, two avatars? How to, how to address my idea to both of them? Is it possible? So this is another question that I would like to ask you. So this is the product. Um, now I'm in the phase. I've just receive prototype from China. And I'm very happy with the, with the things, how they are going because I can see that quality's good. And uh, um, uh, I will start with this in future and planning to have full range of ECO homeware along with this lunch boxes. Also some jars and a standstill, uh, flasks and straws. All these things that slowly, slowly are becoming mainstream. And um, now I'm in the phase of um, arranging my a Shopify. And what I did was I bought my domain, I registered for 15 days trial on Shopify. I opened it, you know, I just, um, recall, um, I just put my domain there and then I was stuck. I was stuck because I didn't know. I said, oh my God, what I'm going to do next? Um, shall I do this myself? Shall engage some freelancer? You know, an Upwork, for example, to do it for me. How many photos do I need to have? What kind of copying?(INAUDIBLE) Well, what I'm going to write? You know, so I'm stuck. And it helped me(INAUDIBLE)
:You know what? You sound like everyone else that comes to me at that same stage. So the good thing is that you've come to me at the very beginning. I know people in that position six months down the track. So they're still feeling stuck. So the great thing is, is that's why I really want us to do this today with you. So, um, so far so good. I'm so glad you've already got, um, a product. So I just want to ask you some questions. I've been writing notes while you've been talking. I will go over those other things with you, the questions that you've asked, but I want to start here first. Have you worked at how much money you need to make? Because you mentioned Cyprus. I'm living in the Netherlands at the moment and in the Netherlands we don't really have anything cause I was just looking at last week for lunch books for one of my stepkids and it's still all plastic that I see. Um, unless you go to those sort of ECO friendly stores. But in the general stores I'm seeing a lot of the plastic as well. Um, so I think it's a problem. It's quite a big problem. Um, but you mentioned Cyprus. Where do you want to sell them? Is, is it something that you want to sell? Just Cyprus is not a very big audience. So I'm sure it's going to be much larger than that. You just want to sell across the world? Is that what your're planning on?(INAUDIBLE)
Speaker 3:No. I was, I was thinking about this and I will start with the European Union. Okay. And there is a simple reason. The simple reason is because Cyprus is also in European Union. And when I import things uh goods from China, they have to pass all this tight European standards. Plus I'm going to pay VAT. Okay. And uh, I wanted to, to offer this product first to European Union because I made my research and I realized it's a, around 515 million is population. So I'm quite sure that that will be able to fit this product and in this huge population. And then we see how it goes. You know, I think that the EU is the first step that I would like to cover. And then slowly, slowly I would like to cover an entire world. And also I would like to sell this um, a wholesale. That's why I said Cyprus also in these eco stores or maybe some nice at department stores. Because I would like my product to be not high end because lunchbox cannot be high end, but I don't want this, the cheapest version, you know, plastic that you get, you know, in a supermarket
Speaker 2:Do you want to be a high quality product for a reasonable price? Yes, yes. Okay. So I can give you the first piece of, of advice there when it comes to the living in Europe now. So I can tell you, um, based on my research and based on what I see happening is that it's still, if you want to sell in Europe, selling in the actual language of that country is always going to be better for you. It's still the case. If anyone from America's listening to this thinking, oh my God, everything's in English. I grew up in English so I can, you know, assume that too. Until living here, I still see like in the Netherlands, Netherlands is probably the best English speaking country in Europe and they still do a lot of stuff in Dutch, over English. So in saying that if the Netherlands is like that, the other countries I was living in Spain as well in Spain, Spanish people, a lot of them don't even speak English. So try to make them purchase something on an English website It's going to your, you're creating a barrier to purchase. So that's the first thing I think about.
:Now they can translate the website into their own language, but that is something worth looking at. Maybe you do a couple of like Spanish in Spanish, Italian and Italian because those three countries, French in French because those are the countries where English is not as predominant. And then countries like Germany where English is a lot, um, a lot higher than you do that later on. So maybe look, you might need to do some more research. So I'm not saying I'm not the person that I know and I'm, you know, giving you the answer. But I would look into that because that might be a big part of, um, you know, whether you get the sales. You could up your sales very dramatically with just a small tweak like that.
Speaker 3:This is very good point because, um, I made my research with this, uh, with this tennis steel box and I've realized that in Germany it's being sold a lot and uh, on Amazon, on Amazon, Germany, but it's, um. This kind of product, somebody in Germany, they made similar brand and they're selling eh, all of that in Germany and everything is in German. They are not even in Amazon UK or Amazon, uh, USA. No, they're, they just created(INAUDIBLE) products and t hey're selling t o German population.
Speaker 2:Amazon Germany is huge. It is a huge, huge business on its own. So, oh, I just turned my light off her, hang on one second. Going into the dark ways.(INAUDIBLE) Sorry, I shouldn't be kicking things. Okay. Um, lights back on. So, um, okay. So that's one point that I want to make is that you have to think about that, about language. The other thing I was going to say was, um, okay, so then in that case you want to hit Europe. Have you, um, thought about how much money you have to make? So what you're going into wholesale as well, which is a great idea. So that changes your business. But one thing that a lot of people don't think about, and I just want to bring this up, I don't want to make it a big part of today, but I just want it people to understand this is a very important point because a lot of people go out there and they see these Facebook on these Facebook groups about um, either Shopify or ecommerce that these, these so called experts out there saying, oh, just do a Facebook ad and I ran$5 of Facebook ads a day and I've made thousands of dollars that most of that is bs. Yeah? That's just not happening anymore. Six or seven years ago, yes, you could make good money from Facebook ads, but now the cost of Facebook ads are so high and people have so many options that the chance of them purchasing from you first time and your ad's being cheap enough is so rare that I just don't believe anyone. I had a client come to me recently, he signed up for my services, Just Ask Parker. Where a low end, low cost solution for marketing. And he signed up and he said, I made$750,000 in three months from my business. And I said, what are you doing here? If you make three quarters a million, why are you with us? Like we usually go to a bigger company. We're not designed for your business. And he said, yeah, but I didn't actually make any money because all of my money went into advertising. Oh my God! So these, yeah. So when someone tells you I made extra amount of dollars, don't believe them. Ask Them, how much profit did you make? Because what I'm finding, there's a lot of people out there calling themselves experts talking about these numbers that they make revenue, but they're not talking about the actual profit. Now if your whole money goes into Facebook ads, you might as well go and get a job down at the local department store and work for five Euro an hour than doing that. Yeah? So I just bring this up. That is very important. So have you worked your numbers backwards to how much, how many sales you need to get a month to be viable?
:Uh, no. No. I Didn't. Although I have some general idea about this margins and s tuff, but I didn't put a goal. Let's say I need to sell a hundred units a month to be viable. Um, should I do this?(INAUDIBLE) Yes. So this number. Every single person that comes to Just Ask Parker, we recommend a few things. We recommend doing a website review. Then we recommend the three month plan. And what I've been doing now in the three month plan, because I asked people when they, uh, when I ask them to, I create a three month plan. We create t he three month plan. And one of the questions is. What are your goals? How much money do you want to make p er month? And people have been coming to me saying, I want to make 10,000, 20,000 and then I create t hese three month plans and I realized that I haven't actually given them the numbers. So now what I do is I realize, you need to have the cold hard facts of how much you work. You have to do to do that.
Speaker 2:So what I do is that let's say you want to make 10,000 a month, let's work this out quickly, it's 10,000 a month. Um, if you wanted to make that, it's just a nice round figure at the moment. Now, 10,000 a month, how much is your product? How much do you sell it for? Uh, how much I want to sell? Yes. 39.90. Okay. So that's, so this is straight away. I have clients that come to me and I have a$5 product and then some people have$100 product. Okay? Now the difference is is that your$5 product, if you run a$5 product on Facebook ads, your ads going to cost you more than$5 so you've made nothing.$100 product, you got to make better money. You're 39 I always say if you want to go through the high, like make a lot of money off the same amount of effort, then you want to be selling something for over$5. A person rang me the other day, how do I, you know, watch today,(INAUDIBLE) what sort of production I sell? And I always say, go f or something over$50. So you're just under that mark, which is good and go to something that's a recurring price they have to pay or that you can sell them on to another product and that's what you're aiming for. So that's great. You're aiming to sell more products, which is perfect, but some of the t hings
Speaker 3:Thre is something else, I would love to just like uh. So, 39.90 is like basic product, but what I want to do with this, I want this box is also to be personalized. Yes. So this is going to be additional costs and these kind of boxes I want to sell for 54.99
Speaker 2:Okay, so that makes you working at it's$45 on average for a sales 42 because not everyone's going to get a personalized. So, let's say 45 is going to be your average sell. Now that's good. That's a good price to start off with. Um, the more you can charge for something, the better. Because you got to remember no one's coming back to buy a second lunchbox from, yeah, they might buy two because they've got two kids, but they're not buying them every three months. So that means that for every time you do a Facebook ad or Instagram ad or you run any promotion, anything that you do to bring in traffic, that person is coming currently to your website to buy one product. So if they're coming back to buy, um, later on when you add more products, perfect. You can promote more things to them, but it's much easier to sell something again to the same person than it is to find new people all the time. So let's work it backwards and we think about the pricing. So 10,000 a month, you sell it for$45. 45 euro,$45 about the same. That means you, you have to sell 222 items a month. Uhum. Okay? Yes. Now this is where the number gets interesting that people go, yeah, okay, 222, but now we have to work out exactly how many people have to come to our website to make that happen. And this is where the number go. People start going, okay, now I have to start thinking bigger. This 222 sales that you have to make. Let's say, um, 50% of those people buy two products. That means technically you only have to sell to 150 people. Okay? Let's, let's say it's 150 people that you have to sell to. Now what we need to do is realize that people, the average sales on a website is 2 to 6%. So for every hundred people, the average is two to six people will purchase from those hundred people. But on saying the average, I have some clients that sell it half a percent conversion rate and then making good money because they get a lot of traffic and the price is a high. So they get a lot of, um, they get a lot of sales. Um, they make a little money that way. So this is we're just talking averages. So let's make it as simple as possible. Let's say for instance, you are, if average is 1 uh 2 to 6%, uh, 2 to 6%. Let's just go 1%. Let's keep you just under the average because most people, if you ask most people what their conversion rate is at the moment, people that I speak to, like we're not talking like the highly successful, but people that are just on the average. They're selling at about half a percent conversion and some of them are making good money and some of them are not. So that's half a percent. So let's say you sell a 1%. That means you have to get 15,000 people to your website every month, to get that 150 sales. Yeah. Okay?
:Very interesting. Yeah. This is like reverse engineering. And I loved it, Absolutely loved it. I haven't thought about this. Yeah. And this is what most people don't think about. So this is the number. Once I give you that number, then you go, okay, hang on a second. That makes me think. Now if that means that's Facebook ads that you have to run, for example, then your Facebook ads on average cost you anywhere from for conversion, 5 to$20 per conversion is average. Yeah? Depending on what you're selling, depending on lots and lots of things, but the average people is converting at five to$20 now that's average. So let's say that you're converting at$20 that means if you need to get 15,000 people to your website, times$20 uh, no because that's a conversion. So then each click through is between, sorry, conversion is 5 to$20. A click through is 1 to$5 for a click through. So the click through, if we say it's$1, that means you have to spend$15,000 a month to get those 15,000 people to your website to get them to your website.
Speaker 5:That's a lot of money. Yes,(laughing). So these people that say to me, all I know other people that are making a lot of money in these big websites, yeah. That are making a lot of money. It's like, but they have budgets of$100,000 a month. Their budgets of 200,000 a month. Like most of these big companies or even dr op s hipping companies that you see that are making money, they're not spending$500 on Facebook ads. This spending a hundred thousand$200,000 a month just on Facebook Ads.Forget everything. So t o do? What am I going to do? What is your suggestion? For somebody(INAUDIBLE). This is where you have to get your strategy right of you need. If you need to get 15,000 people a month to website, then you need to be doing a lot of things and look that number that's based on 1%. So if you can get a 2% conversion rate, then you only need to get 7,500 people to your website. But let's no go on the basis of, I expect to convert at 20% because you're going to be in Lal a la nd with that imagination. But if it does work that way, then you're go ing to be making a lot of money.
Speaker 2:So then that's a bonus and that's why I like to say it is. Let's see that as that's going to be the bonus. If it works that way, that I'm so happy for you. You're not going to be making 10,000 a month. You're going to be making 100,000 a month. So you wouldn't be complaining them. But let's just be realistic about the actual real statistical numbers that are out there and that is a fact that you need to get 15,000 people a month to your website. Now, you know you don't have$15,000 a month to spend on Facebook ads. Most people don't. So now you have to start seeing it of, okay, well that means I've got to do a lot of things on Pinterest, Instagram, Facebook organically. So we'll talk about that in a minute. But I just wanted you to think about that number because that number is so important. And this is what I mean by having a product that you can sell multiple times by selling the same thing multiple times. That means of the 15,000 people that visited your website and you can retarget them, you can send them emails and you can say, hey, it's time to buy that product again. Or like you're going to do is get more products in the range, then you can get back to those people, hey, buy these other things so you no longer have to get 150 people a month to your website because you're selling them other things as well. Um, so that's why I want you to think of that, not just for the number of that sounds really scary, but hey, my business has to, I've got to think bigger if I want to be realistic about it.
Speaker 3:This morning actually I was listening to focus with you and with a guy who is smart. He's smart because some reward he was discussing rewards.(INAUDIBLE) Yes. Very interesting. Yeah, it was very, very interesting conversation. So, u h, thank you for this and this, you know, every time I l isten to your ppodcast, it makes me thinking and it's giving me ideas and I know that I c an n ot implement everything now, but at least I know what are my options? You know. so I know.
Speaker 2:Well, I know your job as a business owner. Your job is that you have to see the big picture and you have to look across it. So you don't need to know how to set up that APP, smiles or io.(INAUDIBLE) That's not your job to learn how to set it up. Y our job is to understand why do I need this? What's the strategy that I'm trying to achieve? You don't need to understand every a spect to doing Instagram ads. You want to employ someone to do that or u m, organic. But you need to understand the strategy of what you're trying to achieve. And this number is what you need to know because that number is the powerful number of, hey, if I n eed to get that many people, I have to think about my strategy. And this is where most people go wrong. This is the difference between failing and succeeding. The people who don't understand that, other people fail and never get anywhere and they still that three years later wondering why am I not making sales? Because they don't realize I need to get 15,000 people a month to my website. And I asked them, how many people came to your website last month? Oh, I got three clicks a day. So I got 90 people to my website. Okay, but what's 90 people? Because you need to get a hundred to get one sale. So you haven't even had enough people to make one sale. So no wonder you not making sales. Yes. So the logic behind it, once you understand that you and everyone else, it helps you have the, when you have the knowledge, you have power. Yes. But this one is a bit scary. It is. You know, only 1% conversion rate. It's a bit scary. And look, some people convert at 10%, some people covert at 15%. And there's a lot of, there's, there's no magic number on what you're going to convert at until you start doing it. And that number that I'm giving you a statistical data across the world, across all ecommerce stores in general, they've said in general, it's 2 to 6%. Okay. Okay? So that's nothing to do with you as a brand. It's nothing to do with, s o anyone listening, it's not to do with anyone personally. It is statistical data of world data, of what people are converting at in this year, like the last couple of years statistically. O kay. And that's what we have to base it on because we have nothing else to base your sales on except that statistical data. Yeah. Okay. So don't be scared off by just use that as the knowledge of, Hey, this is generally what I'm aiming for. I hope I do better than this. Yes. Yeah? Okay. So let's get onto the questions that you had. U m, let's answer those and then I'm g onna throw in some things t here as well. So let's go a head.
Speaker 3:Yes. So, um, um, as I just mentioned, I on, I'm on my 14th trial, Shopify uh website and I just registered my domain there. And u h, what now? Who is going to do this website for me? I'm going to do it? I'm going to attempt which template to use? How many pictures I need? What kind of copy uh I'm going to use? What's the most important thing? H elp me t here Caroline.
Speaker 2:Okay. So let's just go over that one at a time. First of all, with a theme, which theme do you choose? Shopify has a couple of free ones. The one that I recommend for free is supply. Um, that is the best general one. As of paid ones. The Shopify charges. The Shopify themes are about$140 per theme. Or you can go to theme forest.com,.net. I think it is. Uh, look, I'm going to give you at the end of this, I've got a document and I've got some links in there. So there'll be a link in there. Um, on theme forest. If you do want to choose a theme from that, I recommend you choose from the top themes. I think there's only about eight of them available. Do not choose a new theme and do not choose one just because you like it, only choose from the top. At the moment there's about eight. Choose from those. And I think one of the ones that I love at the moment the most is Ella. Now, I g ot a very good reason for this. I've been buying themes for 15 years and I can tell you, you buy a new theme, it looks amazing and it never works and it's going to give you nothing but issues. So, only c hoose from the very top ones. T here. H(INAUDIBLE)
:So this Ella, you can find this on a Shopify or you have to go somewhere else? Yeah, that's on theme forest and I'll give you the link afterwards to that actual thing. Um, that's a nice one. And the great thing about that theme is why I love it so much. It's exactly for people like you who don't want to spend money on getting a website built. Look, I still build websites for people, but I say to people, work should your money go? I would rather you save your money for marketing and your basic website at the moment and then spend the money on the things to get more customers. Just to your website basically. Later on, spend more money on your website. I get still get some people paying me to do websites because they're like, I don't even want to start that process. And if you don't want to start the process. Don't do it. Just pay someone a couple of thousand and get someone else to do it. And you don't have to pay$10,000 but you can get something for a couple of thousand dollars.
Speaker 2:However, speaking to you, you're happy to do it yourself. You're ready to do it. It's really not going to take you much time. You can get one of these things such as Ela, one of the top themes and literally within someone like you who's never done anything before. Within two days you can have everything up and running properly and I'm talking being realistic about the time frames. You could do it in an hour very, very quickly. If you want to do it properly within two days, you can have it working exactly how you want to without over thinking it because everything's prebuilt in that. So that's what I recommend. Do it yourself. If you can actually stand at a time to door.
Speaker 3:Can I ask you something calling though? Um, if I chose Lsam okay. And I, okay. I registered my domain but sometimes I notice that before I don't have product available yet, it's going to be ready. Let's say in two months. Can I lock this, lock this webpage somehow saying like lounging soon or what'll I do?
Speaker 2:So that's built into, um, each of the themes usually has that where you can say, I'm coming soon page, they usually have a coming soon page available or Shopify has a built in where you lock it to a password protected page. So the thing is, no one's coming to your website, so don't worry, you haven't started promoting it yet, but realistically you haven't started promoting it. So the chances of someone coming along, it's like, hey, if someone comes along and tries to buy something on my website when I'm not selling it, Whoa, I'll be really excited. So, um, coming soon in just a pop up top of all you need,
Speaker 3:but you would be surprised because my daughter, uh, it is sharing my journey, you know, in school. And some of her teachers said, oh we want to create all that. And I was like, what? They want the tree or that I don't have the product yet, what I'm going, what I would, what you would do in this case.
Speaker 2:Yes. It preorder. You can do preorders so okay, we're going to jump across a bit. I know you've got this question coming up is about which email system to choose. Yes. Okay. I'm going to leave it there today. Next week we'll be talking about the emails and lots of other amazing topics. So as I said, Tatiana is just like most people out there. She's in a situation where she's just getting started. She has no idea what to do, but she's ready and willing to make things happen. So if you're in this situation, listen in next week because it's full of great advice for any Shopify store. I know. So thank you for listening today and keep smiling.
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