Ever found yourself hobbling from an injury you can't quite pin down? That's the predicament Joey found himself in after a laid-back Easter, with a knee that's seen its share of the operating room. This is a candid conversation about the rollercoaster of injury and recovery where JT asks Joey about the mental marathon of maintaining a sunny disposition amidst the aches, and how my post-injury ritual is more comforting than a child's cherished band-aid. Dealing with injury is part of the game and this is just the first chapter...
Ever found yourself hobbling from an injury you can't quite pin down? That's the predicament Joey found himself in after a laid-back Easter, with a knee that's seen its share of the operating room. This is a candid conversation about the rollercoaster of injury and recovery where JT asks Joey about the mental marathon of maintaining a sunny disposition amidst the aches, and how my post-injury ritual is more comforting than a child's cherished band-aid. Dealing with injury is part of the game and this is just the first chapter...
Speaker 2:
what's going on, joe all right.
Speaker 1:
So I guess this is a little update on me injury status and you know for the listeners, like maybe something that can sort of help them feel a bit better about copping injuries and shit. Yeah, um, we just had a long weekend, easter long weekend, which is like you get the friday and the monday off, so it's like a four-day weekend. We love a public holiday it's it's absurd.
Speaker 1:
It's ridiculous. It feels like so long. Anyway, I had a great time, did some stuff at the farm, went and saw my my parents spent a couple days with them somewhere in the middle there. My left knee got sore. Now I've had a uh couple of knee surgeries, bells on my right knee, yep, and my knees are good, my knees are happy, but for some reason on like saturday man, my left knee's a bit sore, like just going down into a bottom of a of a squat. I was like, oh, there's something going on there. Now I don't know what it was. I didn't think too much about it. I was like I wasn't doing any training. Actually I was trying to get into an open mat at garage in wulingong on the monday but didn't eventuate. Um, but yeah, it was. It was odd because it wasn't like preceded by. I didn't even train in jujitsu. Last year I think I trained on Tuesday, can't?
Speaker 1:
pinpoint the damage.
Speaker 2:
No no.
Speaker 1:
I lifted earlier in the week. By the time Saturday rolled around, I was like I haven't done anything recently. I was doing some physical work at the farm, but nothing major, and so anyway that happened. I've also had this lower back thing for right. I was doing some physical work at the farm, but nothing major, and so anyway that happened.
Speaker 1:
I've also had this lower back thing for the last couple of weeks, true, which has just been sort of coming and going right and um cut to yesterday, which was was yesterday, tuesday, so I I was aware lower back's not feeling great, that little thing's still at the knee a little bit, but it wasn't as much as it was on saturday. Yeah and uh. So I went to jujitsu with the idea that I'm not going to roll today, I'm just going to do some drilling. Yep, got to the class and it was like hey, we're warming up with a lot positional sparring from crossface underhook half guard.
Speaker 1:
I was like I'm just gonna do some stretches over here. I'll jump in a minute, but, but you know I jumped into a pretty intense session, though still like I'm keeping it like I'm. I'm going 75 today.
Speaker 2:
I love how it's like white positional sparring, starting from a really intense spot.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, maximum squeeze full cross-face pressure.
Speaker 2:
What the fuck?
Speaker 1:
There's a big Joel Like we're not here to fuck around. Anyway, did a couple of rolls. I took the rolls really passively, like just kind of basically just played off my back, let people pass, just worked on being defensive, didn't do anything that would noticeably have put my leg in danger, but I finished. I did a few rounds, I finished and I got up.
Speaker 2:
I'm like my knee feels a bit off.
Speaker 1:
Something's not right yeah, I feel like something is just like out of place there. You know, it was kind of a bit clicky and a bit like oh something. So, anyway, I I had a chiro appointment immediately after training, which I'd booked earlier, and I wanted to get some work done on my lower back. So I rocked up with the car and I'm like bro, knees fucked, lower backs fucked help yeah, let's sort this out.
Speaker 1:
He took a look at the knee, did some tests. He said it feels pretty fine, but I think you've, you know, irritated something. Maybe the mcl, maybe not. Um did a bit of lasering, bit of massage and shit did a bit of work on my lower back. Does this lasering thing, which is basically like blood flow stimulation, cool? Just goes super deep, feels quite nice, lovely. Who knows if it does anything, did it feel better? Yeah, well, I mean just being there and having someone you know run a laser over my knee. I'm like this laser a little bit higher.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, for some deep blood flow it's like my son when he hurts himself he'll like have a big cry and then he says I want to feel better okay, and you're like I know man, I know that's kind of how I felt fair enough do you have a special thing for leo?
Speaker 2:
when he's oh band-aid, oh band-aid, every time he'll be like yeah, I need a band-aid.
Speaker 1:
You'll be like all right, mate.
Speaker 1:
He puts the band-aid on somewhere else on the body oh like he got bitten by that, by an ant on the foot, and then he puts a band-aid on his toe and then he feel better. He's like, yeah, it feels better, and then he keeps taking the band-aid off, putting it on different parts of his body and it loses its stickiness and then he's like I need a new band. It's fucked. It's a stupid game we play. But, um, but, yeah, so, so I don't know. A bit of laser, a bit of rub. Yeah, I felt pretty good getting out of it last night, like once I got home and cooled down, and it's fucking sore. I'll be honest, been doing plenty of heat pack and shit, like I had a pumped, a couple of voltaren last night, anti-inflamm, because I knew I wouldn't sleep well with it, yep which, which was yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I had a reasonable sleep, but yeah, it's not happy and so you know, got the heat pack on it. Today I'm hobbling around like a guy with a knee injury I've had. I've been through like over the last. You've done been there the last 24 hours I've been like, oh God, like am I going to keep training jiu-jitsu, like what if I had to have another surgery?
Speaker 1:
you know all that kind of a little bit of catastrophizing for sure scenario, but yeah, kind of like that's right, like existential crisis, if you will, um, and now I'm like it's going to be fine. It feels like much better than it did yesterday. I think it's just going to be about a week and it's sore yep, we'll see. I think I I'll end up. I'll go and see my physio who, unlike my chiro who I went to see yesterday, my physio is better at diagnosing and prescribing exercises, which is going to be really pivotal in this scenario versus just treating it on the spot.
Speaker 1:
But yeah, that's where we're at.
Speaker 2:
I think that's. It is a tough thing, any kind of knock you get, because If you didn't have a moment where you can point to it, it's kind of mysterious, like fuck, I don't know if I can depend on my body. Like, what did I do? I didn't do anything weird, I was playing it safe, and this can undermine the confidence a little bit. Yeah, it's true, and I think that's where it can start to feel like a bit fragile.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, you're like I'm a robust person. What the fuck Like to feel like a bit fragile? Yeah, you're like I'm a robust person. What the fuck like? I do all the right shit, I lift a stretch, but we're all susceptible to injury somehow. It's just the management piece and I think that's you know, you're a pro at that. So therefore you're gonna, you're gonna bounce back quicker. Unfortunately for some people hearing this, maybe they're not. They don't have the resources're not? They don't have the resources you have. They don't have the knowledge you have. Yeah, you know, they don't necessarily have a chiro and a physio and a mate who is a surgeon or you know like yeah, access to information like that.
Speaker 1:
That can be hard. Well, if they're hearing this, they're. Well they get a dog in the race yeah, it does definitely help.
Speaker 2:
But um yeah, so you reckon give it a week I reckon, yeah, I probably.
Speaker 1:
I don't think I'll even go to jujitsu for a week or two, because just knowing myself it's like, yeah, I could go there and do other stuff, but I'd rather just use that time to do more work and I can just happily go back when the time is right for those of you listening to this, joe is a commitment man.
Speaker 2:
If he's at jujitsu, I do not see him sitting off for the uh, for the rounds, yeah and I'm just like the rolling begins.
Speaker 1:
I don't zone. Yeah, and these days I don't need to prove it to myself either like I can sustain jujitsu training you know I think we we sort of share that message a lot like keep going, keep showing up, be part of it, work on what you can visualize stuff, take notes, take notes, whatever. Sure, once you've been doing it for a long time it's like I'm going to show up again once my body's good for it.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
You know I'm happy to allocate that time for other things, but definitely, like I've been voodoo flossing a lot, okay, which is the compression band? And that's amazing. Like as soon as you, that blood flow, yeah, like it just feels great and I can squat and it's like, oh, wow, it's, the injury is almost not present, yeah, and then 10 minutes later, cool down, yeah, less blood back, yeah, but yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1:
We'll check in with you guys next week and give you the update on where it's at yeah, keep us posted, mate, we'll do.