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Are BJJ Uniforms A Scam?

April 22, 2024 JT & Joey Season 4 Episode 322
Are BJJ Uniforms A Scam?
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Are BJJ Uniforms A Scam?
Apr 22, 2024 Season 4 Episode 322
JT & Joey

Episode 322: Does your school have a strict uniform policy? Maybe your coach doesn't care what brand you wear. Uniform is a solid part of the BJJ Gym business but also helps bond the team together. But if you can't choose where you buy your Gi and rash guards is that fair or just another hidden scam within Jiu-Jitsu culture? There are arguments on both sides for and against uniform policies.
A big team showing up to a competition unified and all wearing the same brand and colours looks professional and can really help give you a sense of belonging- being part of something. But being told you can only wear and have to purchase over priced team merch might be a deal breaker. JT and Joey unpack how this side of the BJJ business can really change your experience for the better and for the worse. Let us know what you think about JIu-Jitsu uniform policies in the comments.

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Episode 322: Does your school have a strict uniform policy? Maybe your coach doesn't care what brand you wear. Uniform is a solid part of the BJJ Gym business but also helps bond the team together. But if you can't choose where you buy your Gi and rash guards is that fair or just another hidden scam within Jiu-Jitsu culture? There are arguments on both sides for and against uniform policies.
A big team showing up to a competition unified and all wearing the same brand and colours looks professional and can really help give you a sense of belonging- being part of something. But being told you can only wear and have to purchase over priced team merch might be a deal breaker. JT and Joey unpack how this side of the BJJ business can really change your experience for the better and for the worse. Let us know what you think about JIu-Jitsu uniform policies in the comments.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

Are uniform policies a scam? Branded geese branded rashies a scam branded geese branded rashies? Are you just getting gouged by your gym or is it a good way to unify the team? Is it good business? Is it a means of income to support the team you love? It's a bit of a hot topic in a way, because I had heard someone the other day saying not our gym, we, we don't mind what you wear. It's about the ju jujitsu. We don't care about brands, you don't have to buy our stuff, as long as you're dressed appropriately for the class and your uniform is clean, game on. And they were really calling it out as a way that you know and look, it's a tough gig running a gym and I've trained at gyms where you could not actually roll unless you're wearing the brand stuff and I thought, oh, it's cool, brands are cool. And then I started to wait unless you're wearing the the gyms merch yeah right, even if you had a neutral geek.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, you've got to wear it.

Speaker 2:

You need our team guy yeah, and now to be?

Speaker 1:

they had some rent, they had some borrow gis for casual drop-ins. Right, you don't want to necessarily drop 200 bucks or more on a gi for one visit, Like that's unreasonable. But if you're going to stay there a while and train a bit, sure. But I've trained at other gyms where they just it's like, yeah, just get on the mat.

Speaker 2:

We don't care as long as you're wearing what you need. Yeah, what's been your experience with this joke? Yeah, funny, coming from our time, because uniforms weren't a thing, right it was like you got to put the patches on.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, right, whatever you get yeah, and and that was usually the uniform policy put the patch on whatever you want and you're good. Yeah, and then yeah, and then things started to get, over the years, more systemized and gyms would have their own merchandise and now it's like very easy for a gym to kind of go on. I mean, every gym owner gets fucking 15 dms a day from supply companies right dear sir, madam, yeah, that's right, please send order.

Speaker 2:

Yes, um, I like being able to wear whatever. But I also look at you, look at those photos of teams where there's a strict uniform policy. You look at aoj right, anyone looks like art of jiu-jitsu and you're like, wow, the gym looks so cool, looks so nice. Oh, wow, it's like because everyone's toe on the line, everyone looks, everyone's wearing exactly what they should be wearing the gyms you know, I speak in span great design there it is. So in a way, it's like I think there's a hangover of uniform policies, of shit. They're just gyms trying to gouge more money out of you, sure, but then we all really admire when you see a place where everyone's in uniform.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I don't know if I'm running a gym, if I've got a team, I'm trying to gouge, but I want everyone to look fucking slick. I want that look too for my gym.

Speaker 1:

Definitely, and you know there's definitely ways to do it right, and there's certain gyms and associations that put themselves as a premium. So they're like you buy our gi. It's not just your run-of-the-mill gi, it is a really good gi made by this company and that's why you pay more blah blah.

Speaker 2:

And look that alliance gi that adam sold me when I first joined. I was actually a really good guy, he's a storm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I got, I got one too. Yeah, they're fucking great. And, and you know, I, I, I love that gi too. Right, I've got, I've got one, still in really good nick, whatever two, two, three years later still great. That said, there are some gyms that are just pretty, pretty staunch about it, like even to the extent that I went to a no-gi gym and they weren't really happy about me wearing my bulletproof rashie. Right, they were like, nah, buy one of our rashies, because only I was like, look, it's a, it's a one-off thing, I'm coming to test the waters. This is a red flag for me, like I'm just trying to find a new place to roll. I'm just coming in to say what's up? Are you not going to let me on the mat? Like I just paid my $30 drop-in fee and now I can't get on the mat. Are you going to give me that?

Speaker 2:

$30 back. I don't know if you guys know who I am? No, but it was just a funny moment because I was like you, just took 30 bucks. Yeah, I paid you cash and you want another one or six 70 bucks for a rashy or something.

Speaker 1:

I leveraged. I leveraged the um like loss minimization thing. They're like oh, okay, you can roll. I was like you, motherfucker really. So then I just was like no, I'm not going to train here, like it was. Just, it was the manner in which it was done. I feel the way that's gouging yeah.

Speaker 2:

I absolutely think that's gouging because it's kind of like you. Just you have to acknowledge that the training equipment that's required to train jujitsu is expensive, be it no-gi shorts and a rashy or a gear like the shit costs money. So to demand someone that's dropping in buys it at that time, that's super unfair. To demand that someone that's like coming in for a trial, like I just want to give it a go for a week or two, I think, even to demand that they buy it is unfair.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think it's like, totally like if you you got to be able to either give them a loan one or be like you can wear whatever you got tonight, as long as there's no safety concerns yeah, like you're not rocking up with like a denim jacket it's okay, no it's a rash guard. I can see it's, you know, safe enough.

Speaker 1:

Uh yeah, I think that's super gougy yeah, look, I guess the way I have thought about it, because I can see both sides of the argument. I can see that gyms need revenue and gyms do make money on gis right, and so they should be entitled to have that source of revenue right, and because you know it's hard enough to just run a gym and make some money. But what I think is the challenge is that because jujitsu is so big now, you can get a pretty good gi for a hundred bucks, 120 bucks. You know it's not the best, but it's good enough, right. So if you're just scrambling to cover the cost of life but you still want to do jujitsu, you don't want to pay 250 bucks for some primo gi You's. You don't have any interest in that, you're just trying to get a piece of the action right. I think that the big uniform brand, all this suits a bigger, established gym.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

The, the. Even though smaller gyms will want to get there, they just want to get people in. So you can see that a smaller gyms probably like more understanding. Yeah, just come in, like, just get on the mats, because they're building.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, being here is the most important thing.

Speaker 1:

That's right. They just want the people, and I can understand that if you've got a brand like if you are an alliance or a gracie baja or whatever gym you might be, aoj, you want that brand, you want the look of what you do, a certain way it's controlled, yeah, and if you're not willing to participate in that, then that gym's just not for you. I think that's they kind of they don't care. You know what I mean. I'm not saying that these gyms don't care about their people, but if you're not prepared to kind of be a part of what that is and that's what they're selling, no-transcript.

Speaker 2:

I think that if you have an extremely good supplier and your merchandise is of a high standard, then it's fair to say if you want to train here, you've got to get this. Sure, Because this is one. It's our uniform, but also I can guarantee you this is like one of the best gays you're ever going to get. Yeah, but when you've got that, like the gym's got ugly merchandise. They haven't invested any money in design. It's cheap.

Speaker 2:

They've got some shit logo. They've put it together, made a bunch of them cheap in Pakistan. I'm not saying there's plenty of good ones that come from Pakistan by the way, Not hating on that.

Speaker 1:

No, shut up. Shut up Pakistan.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's right, but you know you can also shop on price, and when you're shopping on price've got to fucking show your role at home, or or a scramble gi or whatever. That's sick and it's better than that. And I'm, and you're forcing me to buy this piece of junk. Yeah, I think that that's really unfair. So, and I and I don't and of course, small gyms can't come in with, like the best quality merchandise pay for a designer etc.

Speaker 1:

Etc.

Speaker 2:

Have it so I think that in that scenario they have to be more understanding as well.

Speaker 2:

Like all right, look, this is our policy, we're not super strict on it. Yeah, what I used to say to people here when I was involved with the Jiu-Jitsu program at Jungle Brothers people come in and say I want to come over, but can I wear my other gi because I've, you know, got a bunch? Because I've got a bunch, I say, yeah, it's fine, but check it out. All I ask is that when you're in the market for your next gi, consider getting one of those.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and maybe buy a rashie and people are like sweet, that's great. And so then it's like on them. You've let them know it's important, but you haven't restricted anyone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think the way in which it's done can make all the difference. Giving people done can make all the difference. You know, giving people an opportunity to just suss it out, like just see if they even like your place. It's pretty tough to just go. Not only are we yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of like a first date. It's like someone proposing on the first day and they're like whoa, look, this is our first like I know this. We're just testing the waters, but I want you to co-sign this mortgage with me, and could I get a blood sample?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what, what the fuck? Cut it out, fucking Billy Bob Thornton. No, you can't wear my blood around your neck in a little vial. That's weird, you fucking vampire.

Speaker 2:

No, it's just a strange thing. Angelina Jolie could wear my blood around her neck.

Speaker 1:

Well, if you're into in ways, no, look, I think here's the tough thing. Bjj gyms are a business and there's only a few ways that people can run a business. But how you conduct your business really dictates how people engage with it, and I think the thing that I've seen, which has worked exceptionally well, is an absolute, was the model that I. I didn't even really realize it at the time. It was, in my opinion, a genius move on behalf of Thiago. Now, I don't know if he was the initial idea, have it the brains behind it, but he left the door open. If you're a brown belt or you're a black belt and you came and trained, you just say, hey, man, you don't have to pay, just come and train.

Speaker 1:

Because he knew that there were all these people who were kind of floating around and maybe they weren't loving their gym, and he just said, hey, you're welcome here. You don't have to pay, just get on the mat. That's pretty cool. He knew that having more black and brown belts on the mat is good for the mat, because you know these people can share techniques and do whatever. And then I was going in there and I was like, oh, this guy, hey, I haven't seen you for a couple of years. Where have you been? What are you doing? Oh, I was out in the wilderness a bit. I wasn't training, I just came in here because it was convenient.

Speaker 1:

You know, and there's all these little factors that get you as a human that are nice and think about like a cafe, because we love cafes, being the Australians and being in Sydney, sydney, baby, it's what it is. But you know, when they give you a nice little biscuit and you don't even You're not doing gluten right now.

Speaker 2:

You don't even fuck with biscuits, yeah, but you're like, oh, that's nice.

Speaker 1:

Or maybe sometimes you might have a front of house person at a cafe who comes out and goes oh, do you want to try this? You're like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 2:

Chef was just whipping up a couple who had a spare one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you want to eat. On that. You're like these guys are fucking awesome. It's just like that little gesture of love and you're like I fucking love these guys, you know. And then you're like I need to tip these motherfuckers, you know. And then it just builds this relationship. And it's those small gestures that, even though they seem like nothing, and if you're not doing them, you're like, oh, that's a bit of effort. People go, wow, that's so good and the love it grows, the relationship builds just through these kind gestures.

Speaker 1:

And I believe that going to the effort to have like a not a renter gi, but you go, oh, you haven't got a gi, we got a bunch of gis, yeah, you know, know. And it doesn't have to be a stinky pile of mess. It could just be like, no, we've got some geese, you wear it, get amongst it, have a good experience. No, no, give it to us, we'll wash it, you don't have to take it, that's all right. You know, just, something like that is very simple but makes someone feel welcome, yeah, and and I think that not pressuring someone, you know, it's like when you walk into a shop, there's good sales and there's bad you walk into a shop and someone goes like can I help you?

Speaker 1:

can I help you? Can I help you, like, bro? I'm just trying to take it in yeah just get off my ass.

Speaker 1:

I'm just let me vibe here, you know what I mean like it's just one of those things that I at least for me, I can respect someone who's good at sales, because I've had to do some selling in my lifetime and I can also respect a good proprietor, someone who runs their shop well and you're like I want to go back there. I'd just go back to chat to them. You know, that's a good vibe, and so I think that this idea of enforcing like a staunch uniform policy is a bit of a turnoff, at least for me.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, I think when the policy is day one and you've got to spend $150, $200 on our shit, big commitment. But I think, if you know like you can have a policy that's kind of relaxed in that way, right, and I think that you know, and I think it's perfectly fine to say, look man, like if you're just testing the waters here, why don't we just leave it a couple of weeks us here, why don't we just get? Leave it a couple of weeks? But if you, if you sign up and you stay beyond those couple of weeks, you can buy a gig, yeah, I think no issue with that. And if I was like, yeah, I'm committing here, like I'm totally happy to do that, yeah, you know, um, I, yeah, it's, it's, it's a tricky one. I think what makes what's even maybe not worse, but what's what also sucks and this is kind of something to think about for gym owner operators if you kind of hear that and you're like, yeah, that's not my style at all, I don't want to do that well, the worst thing or a shit thing that you can do is to just ignore the uniform thing to the point where someone comes in, they want to join your gym, they start training, but you won't sell them anything yeah and you, and, and you just never have the conversation with like, hey, man, there's a an outfit that needs to be worn and you don't have one yeah let's talk about getting you in one yeah

Speaker 2:

it's kind of like the kid that rocks up to soccer training and he's wearing thongs every time, like, yeah, coach can be. Like mate, you need soccer boots. Like that's an essential like piece of equipment for this game. What we do, yeah, so you know, in that way like avoiding the sales process, like not selling to them, that's even that's. That's shit as well. Yeah, because when someone's like hey, I'm trying to commit here, but I'm I keep wearing this fucking cotton t-shirt, I'm not really feeling like I'm fitting the bill right now. Yes, you want me to go online and just browse some shit. Are you going to buy something at rebel sport people?

Speaker 1:

want direction. That's right, they do want direction and it is definitely your responsibility as a gym owner to to guide the people like uh, yeah, definitely, and look it's, there's so many things to consider. Right, like, just trying to source merchandise can be a freaking headache. Yeah, because they're like oh yeah, minimum order 500. You're like I have 10 students, what are you doing to me? Right, like that is a challenge. But you're right in saying that, joe, I've seen that that you've got a gym which is just by like a passionate purple or brown belt. They've got mats, they've got people who are willing to get there, but it's just, it's almost like an afterthought.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like a clubhouse. There's no real system.

Speaker 1:

No, just come. We're here at lunch times, we're here at nights great training, and you know that. But it definitely becomes less sustainable because you haven't given the people something cohesive to like, a banner to come under yeah, we had a business coach when we first opened our gym.

Speaker 2:

Yes, this is a strength gym, right, not a jiu-jitsu gym. And we had our first run of t-shirts made just like classic brand shirts and the coach asked us like how many of those are you selling? And we're like, oh like, we sold a few initially, but we're not selling that many. And he said you want to know why people aren't buying them? And said yeah, why? And he said, well, they don't feel like they've earned the right to wear your because they respect your gyms. They hold it so highly, right? They don't feel like they can go and wear this jungle brothers like thing, right?

Speaker 2:

so you know what you should do. You should give them a t-shirt when they sign up, right. And we're like, fuck, that's an interesting take. And we're like, oh, but they cost us. And we're like, oh, no, let's factor that in. Yeah. Then we started giving people, and people like it's my favorite t-shirt yeah, where it would, probably. And then people like man, I see your shirts everywhere in the local area, like people wearing those in those shirts, and we realized he was totally right. It was like, of course there are going to be some people that purchase, but for a lot of folks, particularly someone who's just joined, they'd like someone who's just joined your gym Doesn't feel like they're in a position to be an ambassador yet. Right. But when you say to them I want you to be an ambassador and here's how you do it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and here's how you do it. Yes, you know, and I'm not saying give them a rashy, charge them. Yeah, sure, it would be like, hey, we got a discount. When it's your first week, you get 25% off and you know whatever.

Speaker 2:

And it's going to be great and you know these are really high quality and shit. Like sell it. That is clever and it's a good piece of right. When they feel they get value, you get value, everyone's happy. A bad sale is when you force someone into a corner. Oh, you can't step on the mats until you've purchased these items here. Buy, yeah, and they're like, and you're like I've already got your credit card on file, I can just run it through it. Yeah, go on, fuck, and you just bad taste in your mouth.

Speaker 1:

That's a bad sale. Yeah, yeah, no, actually. So what's the name of the? Uh friend of t's? He's back, he's training um. He gave the um olives and the to dill the other way.

Speaker 1:

Oh, petros, petros I was in the park. It's locked down so we couldn't we couldn't train all this stuff right. I was in the park doing some distance training with some people and it was not long after the new hoodies had come out from JB's and it had the dark green, forest green, forest green and they're very distinct and, you know, not everyone's got them right and that was the new new. And then I see this motherfucker walking through the park repping JB's and I'm like who the fuck is this guy? I've never seen this guy. This guy isn't part of the tribe and I'm like no shame. I'm like hey, hey, hey, you wearing the JB's hoodie. Who the fuck are you?

Speaker 2:

man.

Speaker 1:

You want to come around here wearing them colors representing gang signs. And I was like what's your name? And he was like oh yeah, I'm friends with Tiara. Tiara hooked me up and I was like that's okay, you may quickly handstand. Hold that handstand. Okay, now you have 50 push-ups, now you may walk on. But it was just because that brand, your brand, the Jungle Brothers brand, is distinct, the Because that brand, your brand, the Jungle Brothers brand, is distinct, the design, who does the…. We've got a guy, johan.

Speaker 2:

Same guy that designed Bulletproof, Bulletproof right.

Speaker 1:

Because I thought it had been rotated. The different, you know the monkey fist and the tiger face. They're cool designs, guys, needless to say, but it's very distinct, yeah. And what is cool about it is, you know, it's kind of like fight club. You see someone else who's like kind of part of the tribe or has been part of the tribe. They're wearing the jb's thing. You're like hey, hey, you know, there's an understanding there which is very cool. So I don't want people to misunderstand this chat as like we're shitting on, you know, people trying to build a brand. It's important.

Speaker 2:

It's a part of a business, yeah absolutely, but how you run that.

Speaker 2:

Hey, do it well. Like build a good brand, get good like that, as an example. Johan's an incredible designer. We've been very lucky to be working with him since day one Well, not since day one, but early on. But the design, a design that he makes for us, becomes an asset for the life of the business and we can release that shirt in 10 years time and be like oh, this is a throwback, you know. So the 500 bucks we paid him to like can you design a new t-shirt for us is an investment that pays off more and more over time yeah versus like you got some logo that you got on fiverrcom.

Speaker 1:

Sure.

Speaker 2:

And you just throw it on a t-shirt and you go, here's the new gym t-shirt and people are like, well, that looks a bit average.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know. So there's, I think. Try and do it well, you know.

Speaker 1:

So what would be our best advice going forward for, say, a smaller to medium gym that isn't part of a big chain? How do, how do they go about approaching the kind of gi no gi, uniform brand thing? What would be the steps you think?

Speaker 2:

I would think here's what my here's. You know, if I was doing it, this is what I'd do. I would lay out a piece of paper and I would write on it. Here's the fucking process. Someone, someone new, signs up. This is what happens.

Speaker 2:

They get to use a loan gi and a loan rash guard for their first seven days. After that seven-day period, if they're continuing with their membership, then they need to purchase a package which is a gi and a rash guard and a pair of shorts, and that comes at this discounted rate. And you tell them look, there's equipment required to train here. I'm not trying to gouge you here. I'm going to lend you this shit for a week so you can test it out, or two weeks, whatever. Um, you take it home and wash it, but this is an old gear, you can use an old rashy and but then, if you're going to stick around, you're going to make this purchase. I think that's totally fair. So you've got to process. They know you've got to process.

Speaker 2:

Everyone's expectations are clear. I would not do a, I wouldn't do a big run of of gear because you can't afford it, yep. So I would say, like, two times a year I would do a pre-order sale. Cool, I'd say, guys, I'd print out some mock-ups, put them on the gym wall. Say we're doing this guy, we're doing these rashes. Get your orders in by the end of this month. You have a fucking clipboard with a bunch of lines on it. People come, yeah, put me up for one medium rashy, one medium shorts right.

Speaker 2:

You do that, you charge everyone at that time. So you go cool, all the orders are in, everyone gets charged. You've got this chunk of cash, so now you can do it. Then you go to the manufacturer that's right, and you price it based on how many pre-orders you get, so that you know you can cover your costs.

Speaker 2:

And then you get a few extra but, you don't go overboard and then hopefully you break even. But the beauty, you know, maybe you make a little bit, maybe you make 10% on it, but the beauty is you've got uniforms for everyone, people looking good. You've got a little bit of supply for the new people showing up, but you haven't had to spend cash that you don't have. Yeah, and it's so easy to go, I'll go on. Let's just do it. We'll just knock out a hundred of these. I reckon we'll sell them over the next year.

Speaker 1:

You never do, it doesn't happen.

Speaker 2:

You always end up with a back room full of shit, and what happens is then, two years later, you still got a back room full of shit. So then the old ones are redundant now and then you've got another 10 in the back room and it just compounds over time.

Speaker 1:

And so little, little sidebar on that proper branding's key right, like getting that designer, like, or if you know someone who knows someone, get someone who really knows logos or design and get them. You know, like, yeah, we were really lucky to get Johan to design the fist for us and you know it's become its own icon, which is, which is great, yeah, and that way you know that time and energy you put in doesn't become, it doesn't expire, it does become that brand asset.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, it gets cooler and cooler. Yeah, yeah, get someone good at the beginning, I mean, look you're gonna. You're talking about paying a few hundred bucks, or maybe you're talking about paying $1,500, $2,000 for, like, a proper logo and a brand package, colours, fonts. Fuck man, you're only going to do it once.

Speaker 1:

And that's going to be on your shit forever, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And if you do the cheap one, then maybe you want to change it in a couple of time anyway, and then you're just spending again. Yes, so I, in that regard, I got, I take the buy once, cry once mentality it's a great saying.

Speaker 1:

I did learn it from from joe. Where did you get that, joe?

Speaker 2:

where'd I get that from? It's from a coach I had many years ago talking, yeah, and he was talking about hunting equipment. Yeah and uh, I've always held the same. I've actually always held that same for for tools, white goods um, yeah, white goods, but white goods you get skimmed sometimes. Sometimes you can buy the expensive one, but still a piece of shit with a flashy brand. But if you got, if you got a bunnings and they got, like sure, the cheap pliers are the expensive ones. Or rain it, rain it in, captain dad, the expensive ones.

Speaker 1:

Let's not start the bunnings chat that's a topic for another discussion all right folks, there it is, but before you go, we love, we love you a bunch. And look, I think it's one of those things when you um, I've had this before you here in australia at least it's a pretty important thing. It's a minor gesture when you let somebody in in traffic, say, you're in a crowded bunnings car park and you know someone wants saturday afternoon.

Speaker 2:

I can. I can feel it. It's packed, it's heaving, that's out. Is it Walmart? No, it's not Walmart. What's there? It's the American Home.

Speaker 1:

Depot, home Depot, right, you just, you know, you see someone trying to indicate and you just go. You give them the wave and they go, great, and they turn and as they turn they wave back, they give you the customary thank you. Preach, you know, appreciate it. Yeah, the shuckers, they throw it up. Now. There's nothing worse. I go from a benevolent Buddha of a god to all may go, all may go. You know people can't get a turn. You're like, let a couple through, why not? I'm generous as hell. If I wave someone through and I don't get the customary little finger lift or a little nod, I now want to follow that person and murder them and leave their body in the car, Set the car on fire blow the fuck up, you know.

Speaker 2:

Kill your children, your children's children, just Genghis.

Speaker 1:

Khan. Sow the fields with salt, Destroy all the generations. I don't know why. What it is about this kind of customary you give a little bit and all you want is just a tiny little bit of acknowledgement. And what that tiny little bit of acknowledgement looks like from you, my good friends, is a like a subscribe and also listening to this on audio. Go and give us a five star rating. Why? Because it's just the least little bit. You can do so if you're just listening on your iPod or you're in the car, whatever it might be, wherever you are. Ipod, I love that. Well, you know iPhone, hey, man. Anyway, I won't go into it, We'll tell you another time. However you consume this information, please give us that little gesture, that little wave, so that we can share this with more good people like yourselves. I also don't have to track you down and burn your car. Yeah, Simple, Thanks, man. Cheers guys.

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