SPEAKER_00 0:00

Did you see the UK has proposed a social media ban for children 16 and younger?

SPEAKER_01 0:05

I briefly had mentioned this yesterday when you were out. Uh but the thing interesting that I was I was pontificating.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Mm-hmm. How the hell are you gonna do it? Well, Australia's done it too. And I think that Yeah, but how do you enforce it? I know. I've been saying this from the beginning.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

This is the hardest thing. Oh, okay. This brings me to something. A minor disagreement going on between uh the uh two parents of Gavin and Lydia.

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

And I'm not talking, but Tiffany's not a parent, so you have to realize I'm talking about me and their mother.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

So I was accused of attempting to block a phone call, which I wasn't. Uh-huh. Apple is un, and you all need to hear this because this is coming if you have a minor that uses an iPad. Apple has released a well, they're getting ready to release it. They've tested it. It's a new security option. And I literally said, I go, Lydia, um, did you talk to your mom? No, I can't. Well, it took her days to tell me. It was like 24 hours. I'm like, what do you mean you can't? And she goes, Well, this comes up. It it was she had it on her iPad. It was a test where it said, uh, are you sure you know this person? Are you sure you want to talk to this person? Do you feel safe?

SPEAKER_00 1:21

But they did the facial recognition for her, right? Does she have that set up on her iPad?

SPEAKER_01 1:24

I don't believe she does. No, it was because I originally set up the iPad for her and it has her birth date, so it knew she was under a certain age. Uh-huh. And but that in Australia and England, you can get around that. If you you you you you put it under yours. Oh yeah. You know, I mean, there's ways around it. So I had to do all these things to get it back working again. And by the way, that is coming. Apple is be prepared for this. If you use Apple, it'll happen on your phones and on your iPads. There will be some contacts that it will go, do you know this person? Are you sure you do? And you may have to jump in and help out.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Well, and the other thing about that is too, is they're going to be doing facial recognition. But I always went to high school with somebody who was like there it might have been Kevin McCarthy, and he was in ninth grade, but looked like he was 27.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Mark Colville bought us beer as juniors, and uh, let me just tell you, full beard, and this wasn't even an era where beards were big, you know, this is like 1988.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

And that's where I think this is. He got a keg for a party once, didn't even get ID'd. I'm like, you're awesome.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

This is where it's gonna backfire because the facial recognition, or what if you're somebody who's older but you look really, really young? There are those people out there. I know for sure. I mean, maybe not here in the Twin Tiers.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

I don't know how they I don't know how they're gonna enforce it though. That's the biggest thing because because here's the other thing, too.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

Because I lie about my birthday.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Yeah, well, parents also sometimes whether you agree or disagree with it, parents are always gonna use, since we have the technology now, a level of like, go watch YouTube or go do whatever so I can make dinner. Okay. I mean, like, you know, this is just that's not social media per se. That's you know, different.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

I mean, I appreciate them trying to put some restrictions that I think that young children should have. Because I don't know. Absolutely. I don't think Lydia should be able to watch everything.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

She doesn't.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Right. Of course, I know.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

No, well, I mean, that w that we we make sure that it's locked down because you know, there's you don't want that. Same with Gavin.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Right, but to 16 seems a little late in the game on social media. And I know that social media has negative effects on the confidence, especially of like young women. It's the same as when we had the the magazines back in the day. Sure. And it would be, you know, teen you want the cosmobody. You want this teen and yes, exactly, exactly. But I just don't see how you can really prevent it unless you're too far out of the out of the box, if you will, you know? Are they is it gonna become like China and they're gonna completely block the sites entirely? No.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

Well, yeah, because in China, basically you have a choice to use whatever their version of Facebook is, or they cut your eyeballs. They cut your eyeballs out and they monitor every single thing you say. Boy, that sounds like a great social media experience. Do I give a thumbs up on this or not, or do I die?

SPEAKER_00 4:14

Right. Okay. I just don't I don't see how it can last very long. I don't know. I know that they're trying and I appreciate the efforts, but all right.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

And you said 16.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

W in your mind, where do you see social media starting for kids?

SPEAKER_00 4:32

13.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Okay. I can see where that could, you know, happen.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

I I think like I think I'm sure there's people Gavin's age who already are on it. But I think 13. I mean, at 13, you're really starting to like switch schools and different yeah, you're in different groups. Right, and you're making I would say more trying to make more um older decisions, not not adult decisions, but I think that you're trying to impart in them some independence.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

See, and you could even do, because Tiffany did this years ago with her daughters, is they had it set up where when the kids got into social media that they literally had to follow, you know, her and and and their dad. Well, you know. So you see everything that happens, but then all of a sudden, randomly one day, you didn't know they had Snapchat, and suddenly it's there it is.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

See, and we're what what we had was we had the computer in the living room. So here you are trying to search stuff, and you're like, oh my gosh, is my dad looking over my shoulder?

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Do you remember that? I just solved the problem. I totally know how to fix this. Okay, so they don't teach history and stuff like that the way they used to.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

All you gotta do is ask a question, you know, be like, who is president in 1988 if you're trying to do it?

SPEAKER_00 5:41

Oh, to unlock certain things? Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 5:43

That would be the way to do it because they're not gonna do it. They're gonna be like feverishly googling and they're you know trying to figure it out. So it would be. That's actually a great way to get people to pump the brakes. And it really only works with like history because like we all know that they're teaching new math, and I couldn't figure that out. But that's the way you do it. Uh what what was the year span that uh uh Bill Clinton was president of the United States? In the nineties? I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't even know. That's right.