SPEAKER_01 0:00

You guys have been great with the text on this 16-year-old that went and and and really did something that I I highly applaud. Went to go get a summer job and is working as many hours as humanly possible during that time. All along she's thinking, you know, this is great. I'm gonna bank up money. I'm gonna have, you know, money for what I wanna do, things like that.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

But then those concerts, what whatever she wants to do.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Then the first paycheck comes and the parents go, Hey, uh, you can just hand that right to us, and that and using the phrase, that's ours.

SPEAKER_00 0:32

I think they're using it because it's the well, if you're under the age of 18, everything is basically mine. Like you you have to follow my curfew, you have to follow all of my, you still have to do chores, you still have to and all of a sudden pay us in a way, but they say they're gonna give it back whenever she turns 18. But some so here's some suggestions because I mean you guys have lived this life before, whether you've been the child that has had to give up money, or you're the parent right now. Uh, this one, I don't agree with this at all. My father and stepmom took all the money I received as a child and said it was being placed into a college fund. Never saw a dime. That's another thing that could happen. It could happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Let's just say for argument's sake in this case, the intentions of the parents are good and they're gonna give it back. I mean, yes, there's always that, you know, uh the possibility they're not gonna be on the up and up. But let's just for this argument say that's what their intention is. They're gonna make sure that she is set up down the road. Now, I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

But then you But you didn't set her up to know how to spend money.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Well, that's the point that you've been making, which I agree with too.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

Alicia says charge her rent, etc., and put that money aside for when she's 18. So then you're kind of teaching her how to spend money and allow her to keep some so she understands she's not working for nothing. She may decide not to work or work as much as who wants to work for nothing.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

So I uh it's funny, Dawn Zen from uh Watkins Glenn International, she just said the exact same thing a few minutes ago. Why are you you're working for just working's sake? Here's the one thing I don't like, and this is just me personally. This is my own personal feeling. I don't like saying you're charging uh someone under 21 for rent. I I I to me, it's like this is the this is my opinion. This is the family home, and up until you're 21, where you should be able to be pretty self-sufficient to a level of I can now say, okay, if you decide to live here after 21, you've got to contribute something to the the cost of this. You're not gonna free ride this forever. Right. But that's just my feeling on this. Now, what they did, I will tell you one of the things that I highly respect that Tiffany and her ex-husband did with Jules and with the other girls. They forced them to have to buy their own cars.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

All three of the girls wanted cars. Yes. That that's teaching them how to spend money responsibly.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

There you go. So they didn't they didn't buy the cars for them. They may have gone with them to help pick, yeah, but they did not, you know, they were like, this is the way this is gonna be. You want a car, you'll you're gonna pay for it and all that. And to this day, the girls have. They they have bought their own cars.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

There is such a sense of pride when you buy your own car as well. And that's something that you're giving them not only the responsibility and the tools, but also you're giving them a sense of pride that you really can't that this is how you teach it. You can't buy that anywhere else, you know.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

I have to come down. This is a little bit longer of one from 0333. Uh-huh. It says mother of four here. I have a 24-year-old son. Okay, you can charge him rent.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

He's just no free loan anymore.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

At 24, you're all right. Uh, let's see. The uh 18-year-old daughter, 14-year-old daughter, 13-year-old daughter. Good lord. Uh, my three uh older kids have had jobs as soon as they could get their uh working papers, and they were allowed to do whatever they wanted with their uh with their money, including buying anything they wanted. I pay for their needs, but anything they wanted, they paid for on their own. And they also got bank accounts as soon as the uh as soon as they got the jobs, essentially.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

That's another great learning tool. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Yep, because uh let's see here, goes on to say, because they learned how uh fast money goes, which is true. Yes, uh, I think it's a great um uh teaching experience. And uh if you take their money for them, you shelter them. And it went on a little bit from there. I I can't see the very bottom of it, but I agree with that too. You're really not teaching them. No, and and you're making them feel well, it's it you just feel a certain way. You're like, I'm getting no reward for this.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Yeah, and I I also like to teach the independence and even control that you're in control of your own money and your own life, and we're gonna give you a little bit of that.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

I mean, you've got to be able to make some mistakes. I mean, you know, you're gonna have a check where you're gonna blow it. I don't know. That's just my opinion on on the way it did. I it's bad optics the way they did it.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Yes, it is. And I hope that the daughter can open their eyes so then there can be a renegotiation, if you will.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

Well, I told you the renegotiation's easy. Instead of coming home with a paycheck and handing it to the parents, open your own bank account and and if it's a direct deposit, have it shifted over to your account and then well, then they get a car. Yeah.