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Dr Adya Misra | From loosing courage to championing self belief

July 20, 2021 India Pearson! Season 2 Episode 4
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Dr Adya Misra | From loosing courage to championing self belief
Show Notes Transcript

Dr Adya Misra discovered kayaking living in Sweden in 2014 and it made such an impression on her life she decided to change her career so she could spend less time in the research lab and more time outside on the water! She later trained as a paddle coach, discovered paddle boarding too and since then has gone onto become a British Canoeing #ShePaddles Club Champion hoping to improve representation of women at her local canoe club in Liverpool. Adya continues her passion for improving diversity in paddlesports in her blog and in this episode we talks openly about the subjects she writes about including gender and ethnic diversity within the paddlesports community.

Find Adya on Instagram - @queenadya

Adyas's blog - https://justonemorepaddle.wixsite.com/gonepaddling

This series is proudly sponsored by Cotswold Outdoor, the outdoor experts working to change the fabric of outdoor retailing. Find out more about their sustainability mission and services on their website.

If you have any questions or would like to suggest a guest please get in touch! You can email India via indiapearsonclarke@gmail.com or send a message via Instagram  @india_outdoors / @finandflow / www.indiapearson.co.uk

~Music - Caleb Howard Almond ~

India Pearson  0:03  
Hello, I'm India and welcome to the second series of starter rebel podcast. This series is proudly sponsored by Cotswold outdoor, the outdoor experts working to change the fabric of outdoor retailing. You can find out more about their sustainability mission and services on their website. Now, this podcast is a platform for me to chat with inspiring folk that are making ripples in their lives by moving in nature. And I'm here to find out a little bit more about how this connection with movement and nature is having an impact on their mind, body and the environment to my hope the conversations that come from this podcast will encourage you to get outside, move, dream big, and see what happens from the ripples you create. Alright, it's time to introduce my guest.

Dr. adya miserere, discovered kayaking living in Sweden in 2014. And it made such an impression on her life that she decided to change her career, so she could spend less time in the research lab and more time outside on the water. She later trained as a paddle coach discovering paddleboarding too, and since then has gone on to become a British canoeing she paddles club champion, hoping to improve representation of women at her local Canoe Club in Liverpool. Agile continues her passion for improving diversity and paddlesports in her blog. And in this episode, we talk openly about the subjects she writes about, including gender and ethnic diversity within the paddlesports community.

Dr Adya Misra  1:49  
Hi, at Yeah, welcome to the Stata rebel podcast. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you. And thank you for having me on this podcast. It's it's an amazing honour to be on this podcast with so many amazing people. Oh, that's so sweet of you to say. And now I've done my research behind you, of course, but my listeners won't have done. So if you could just start by sharing your background and sort of look back at the reports that you've made in your life up until now. And tell us how you got to where you are today. Yeah. So it's, it's interesting, I always think about my life in two, two halves, before I started kayaking, and after I started kayaking.

Unfortunately, the first 30 years of my life was very dull, very boring. I am from Newcastle. But because I'm brown skinned people always want to know so I am Indian. And people like me don't often do a lot of outdoorsy things. So of course, I grew up doing very normal things like going to school, going to university, getting a job. nobody in my family is super outdoorsy. nobody's really athletic. So for us growing up, it was just, you know, doing the odd school runs and school swims and going to the beach. It was really nice. I never thought I was missing out on anything until until I moved to Sweden, which was my first first real job in the real world. And the Swedes have this, this joy of being outside, right? Everybody knows about that. It's called free lips lever, which is the the life you live outside. And that really rubbed off on me. I never thought it would. I thought they were crazy. They would leave the office at Friday, Friday, three o'clock, they were out to their summer house. And they were all doing kayaking, remaining climbing stuff like that. And I was so inspired by that. And I thought I would I would really love to do that. But of course, having done nothing for the first 27 years of my life, I would never have had any idea where to start. I didn't have a summer house, obviously. And I didn't have many friends who were who were doing outdoorsy things either. So one of my Swedish friends effectively said to me one day, you're coming kayaking with me and I said, Look, I'm in the lab. I used to be a scientist at that time. And I said, Look, I'll never make it. I'm usually in the lab till 10 o'clock at night. I can't do this. And she pretty much forced me to go kayaking with her one random Thursday in the middle of summer. And I absolutely loved it. It was amazing to just be out on a lake around sunset kayaking with a bunch of strangers and burying abilities. And just just looking at the light looking at the water, the reflections and the smiles on everybody's faces. It was absolutely amazing to share that experience. And I tried that a couple of more times and that I was actually hooked I was doing about 10k circumnavigations around the The island that I lived on at the time, we did that three, four times a week, I went to the Baltic Sea for some short trips as well. So it effectively gave me something to do at the weekend, which wasn't, which wasn't working really, because I used to work weekends at the time as well. And, yeah, that's kind of how I, how I changed my life. That's how it became before and after kayaking. And when I came back to the UK, I was still doing scientific research. And very quickly, I realised that it's incompatible really, with my, with my new love for the outdoors, I can't be in the lab at the weekend. I can't be chasing contracts every three years. I can't I can't be doing grant deadlines. This is this is not my jam. And I took about six months to work out what I wanted to do next. And I got a job in medical publishing, which was really nice. It's more office based, it's nine to five. I'm really passionate about it. Because it gives me a chance to use my knowledge in a different different industry. And it gives me my weekends back. So I can actually, I can go kayaking, I can go camping. Nobody's going to think that it's really strange that I'm not working at the weekend. So absolutely fabulous.

India Pearson  6:20  
Yeah. And and it's really interesting that you say that because I lived in Sweden for a little bit. And I had a huge impact on my life too. And it was 12 years ago, and I was 20. And, and although I was there mainly in the winter, so there wasn't much natural light. Everybody just got outside as much as they could, I guess made the most of that light. And yeah, we can get crazy things like jumping in freezing cold lakes, and then go into the saunas. And, and I wasn't having at that time. But I can totally appreciate how you would have got enticed by the beauty of that country, you know, padding around the occupied yellow islands and everything. So So yeah, I can see how how living in Sweden hooked you? Yeah, yeah, it was absolutely amazing. And I think I think that they have this mentality that you can't, you don't work, you know, all the time. You don't live to work, you work to live, and it's so nice to actually have that experience and bring it bring it home. Really? Absolutely. And you know, work life balance is so, so important. And I think it's it's something that a lot of us can take stock from. So before you found paddling, what were you doing in your in your free time? Or was it just all work? Work Work?

Dr Adya Misra  7:48  
Yeah, it kind of is. I mean, being a researcher is all consuming. I used to work at least a day and a half of the weekend. And anything that was left over was let's go to the pub, because we're also sorry, raging alcoholics. All scientists either become marathon runners or reaching our goal. Okay. like to think I'm moving to the other category. Yeah.

India Pearson  8:13  
And I know, obviously, you're no longer a researcher. And you've made quite a lot of changes since then. One being the fact that you are now a paddle co Yes. So when did this happen? When did you decide to change your passion into a career path.

Dr Adya Misra  8:31  
So like I said, I came back to the UK after Sweden, and I was I was kayaking a lot. I was in London at the time, and I was part of a club. And it was, we were we were paddling all the time, it was two or three times a week, I was going on loads of trips, and the club was growing. And I could see that there were a lot of beginners joining the club. And you know, kind of nervous to be on a tidal river is it's quite a dynamic environment, especially if you don't think about it, though, when you sign up, and I really wanted to help them. And it was it was encouraged in the club that more experienced paddlers could help those who are starting out. And I think that came very naturally to me to just want to help people you know, gain gain that experience that I've gained and be able to confidently paddle down the Thames and say, Look, I did it, or I'm doing it three times a week and I'm not scared of it. And that made me think actually, I'd really like to become a paddle coach. And I did my the entry level that doesn't exist anymore. It was the level one British canoeing coach and kayak and canoe. And of course, it meant that I had to become really good at kayaking and canoeing before I could do that. So I did that in 2017, just before they changed everything at British canoeing, and it effectively meant that I could take people out on taster sessions so about 30 minutes and then in the closed flat space, just get them going get get Give them a try, give them a few tips, play games on the water and stuff like that. Which is, which is really nice for people who are just just trying something out. And they don't know whether they like it. They're not like everybody else who just wants to get into kayaking, and do bracing and stuff like that. So I was really interested in doing that, especially because I don't see many people will look like me on the water. And part of my motivation to become a coach is to get that that element of diversity into patterns that we've talked about quite a lot, but we're not really achieving it. And for me, it's it's getting people to see that somebody who looks like them can actually achieve those things as well.

India Pearson  10:44  
Yeah, and and I'm really glad that you brought that up, because I've been reading your blog. And there's so many fascinating subjects on there that you write about. I mean, we could spend hours talking about all of them. But just to pick out the firt, the most recent posts that you've written, which is a blog on diversity. And in it, you say there are days, I still wonder if I belong in the world of paddlesports. Or if I'm just fighting for a corner. And I was wondering if you could dive in a little bit more into that, and why you felt you needed to write it.

Dr Adya Misra  11:21  
And so I think it comes from a place where I don't see people like me, and it's not just the colour of my skin, I'm very, very short. And I'm a woman and I have a full time job. And and I'm Indian, and very few people can relate to that. And every year, whenever I'm making a big purchase, like at the moment, I'm thinking about buying my first kayak, and I've been kayaking for eight years. And the fact that I'm still thinking about it, whereas other people who try it for five minutes and want to buy it makes me think there's something different about me. And I still feel like oh, I don't know, well, Will I still be doing this in a year's time will something happen that makes me think actually, I don't fancy doing this anymore. It's too much of too much of a boys club, or it's just for my people. And and I'm not able to do the things I want to and I still face discrimination at various levels. People don't always mean it. But it's still discrimination. And it always makes me think but maybe one day, I'll just not want to do this anymore. And and the fact that I've had all three disciplines canoe and kayak, and paddleboard and I see that in all three is is powerful. And there are so many people who probably face a lot more discrimination than I do. People larger than me, people who are probably neurodiverse, they have anxiety, or you know, they just they're on the autism spectrum, they they're not made to feel welcome in paddlesports. And that's that's the reality, we need to talk about a little bit more than we are at the moment. People don't really talk about the challenges that we have as a as an industry as a community, we just talk about how amazing it is for everybody's mental health and physical health, which it is. But there are a lot of people who are made to feel very unwelcome. And I think that that's something we need to work on.

India Pearson  13:18  
So do you have an example of when you were made to feel feel unwelcome?

Dr Adya Misra  13:23  
Oh, so many so many Oh, I could write a book on that. Yeah, what

India Pearson  13:30  
needs to be talked about more often, you know, case studies,

Dr Adya Misra  13:34  
I think I think it's one of those things that people will always say that I didn't mean that or that I I am too sensitive. And you know, as women, we're always told we're too sensitive. And and we are and that's a good thing. And that's what that's what makes us better paddle coaches, I think, and I'm sure you'll agree with that aspect. I nearly gave a kayaking. When I first moved to Liverpool, I had gone for an adventure week in Anglesey with a woman coach. And she told me that I wasn't strong enough or competent enough to progress. And I didn't sit on my couch for six months. I started about onboarding. I was like, I'm not going to do any more guide. I think that's fine. I'm just not strong enough. And yes, maybe if I think back now, I shouldn't have let her words be so powerful. But when when you're in a dynamic environment, and that power dynamic of somebody telling you, you're absolutely awful. You believe it and why wouldn't you? It's not It's not for them to say what I can and cannot do of course, but if it sticks with you, it sticks in the

India Pearson  14:41  
hand. No, it does. It does. And I guess as a female. I personally haven't felt discrimination within the paddleboarding community. But I definitely have felt it within the surf community. So where my local spot I could surf would I get surf all the time because I'm down on the Kent coast but when there is surf it's very male dominated and I've actually made the decision now to not to not even bother trying because I'd never feel welcome there I'm quite often the only female and I'm just have had throwaway comments sent to me because I'm not an advanced enough level you know, to be there It feels like and and yeah, it's sad like I don't feel like welcome in my local community. You know, I feel totally welcome when I go down to como, and there's lots of lots of different levels and different people in the water. But but not in my local spot, which is super sad, but I guess I've kind of been protected from it a bit in the paddleboarding community. I think because I discovered paddleboarding when I by teaching SAP yoga, you know that that was my kind of thing and that is still is my thing. And naturally stop yoga attracts more women. It just does. And although I do get men coming to my class, and I really, really welcome men coming. I'm naturally surrounded by a lot of women. When I when I teach you when I practice. And I do say though I really do make a point of saying everybody is welcome. If you've never paddleboard before, if you've never done yoga before. Don't worry, there's still poses you can do. I'll give different variations of the poses. Yeah, this this is just this, please come and give it a go. But But yeah, so kayaking and paddleboarding? Is there? Have you felt a difference in the different communities there because I'm not a kayaker myself just a paddle boarder. And have you felt that there is sort of more discrimination in one than the other out curiosity?

Dr Adya Misra  16:52  
So I guess paddleboarding is that interesting new sport at the moment, isn't it? It's still growing as Yeah, it's definitely more women oriented, which is something I love. And I've heard some throwaway comments about paddleboarding and women from from other people. And things like oh, you know, if we wanted women to get involved in paddle sports, we should have created paddleboarding sooner. That's not quite how it works. I think I think women are taking the paddleboarding because it's new and it doesn't have a pre pre image in our minds that it's male oriented. And it's very muddy and it's so accessible. paddleboarding communities are very interesting communities, there's the racing community that's very close knit, everybody knows everybody. And they seem to be a lot more collaborative and friendly towards each other. I haven't seen anything that makes me think. I don't understand why you're doing that. And in general, because everybody's so interested in making it accessible for people they seem to be, you know, trying to help each other even if they are on the provider end, which is good.

India Pearson  18:05  
Yeah, exactly. And there's some really amazing people in the paddleboarding community, like himself, who are breaking stereotypes. And doing some amazing work behind that. And, you know, I guess, I guess I just want to say thank you for the work that you're doing, because it's so important. And although there will be days like, you know, like you've said, where you felt like you wanted to pack it all in? Or please don't, please don't because, yeah, you are a real inspiration. Now, kind of our keeping on the subject, I know that you're a sheep huddles, British canoeing club champion. So can you tell us a little bit about that and what it means to you.

Dr Adya Misra  18:56  
And so for me, she paddles club champion was really about improving things at my local club. It was very male male dominated in terms of who was attending the sessions, and also the coaches and leaders. So for me, it was starting just at the very basic that we just need more women to come out and get on the water with us. And that started with changing the imagery on our social media channels changing the way we talk to people. So I'm actually quite embarrassed. But I read recently realised that people have started copying the text I used to invite people to a session. And they they started just using the boilerplate, boilerplate template that I use, which is a little bit more, it's more catered to women because I always say, if you're interested in this, you should come along, and we'll learn something new. We'll work on our skills. I don't say things like we're going to go for 10 mile paddles, and we're not we're not going to do time trials. And we're not going to do drills because I know that's language that is off putting I, it comes from my work, I have worked on so many different aspects of gender disparities. And I know what will resonate with women, and people are using that text. And I didn't even ask them to do that. I did hope that they would. I hope that at some point, somebody would think actually, this is much nicer text, let's use that. And they are using it, which is really nice. And I'm seeing more and more women sign up to become group leaders. I'm seeing more women on the water, they come to our rescue sessions. My I do every week, I do a rolling session in the kayaks. I'm still the only woman there. So hopefully, we'll get other ladies to sign up. And most women don't notice that that's a problem. But it is right if I'm the only woman amongst 10 other men, what are we doing wrong? And it's so important to have language that that's inviting and accommodating to everybody's needs. And so that people can feel like they're not doing an exam. And yeah, they're to spend some hours of their life, enjoying something beautiful and learning something.

India Pearson  21:07  
Yeah, yeah. I mean, the system is so important, isn't it. And I actually ran my first she paddles event. Last month, we had 16 women come and try out sup yoga and kayaking. And I was so nervous, launching me events I was hosting, it was my idea for y'all got to build 16 spots, oh my goodness, and I just couldn't believe it. It sold out within a day or two. And then the event itself was amazing. Everybody was buzzing from it. I could see people talking to each other that didn't know each other. I think that's the amazing thing about these sorts of events is that you meet like minded people. And of course, it's lovely going paddling by yourself. But you know, from a safety aspect, it's really important to have somebody else there. And also from a social aspect. It's lovely having someone else there to talk to and share your passion. And so yeah, I think, you know, the sheepherders movement is incredible. And it is so important for encouraging more women to get out there and enjoy enjoy the sport that we have both for them. We're in love with. Now, I love to hear your opinion on something that's recently come up on the in the news, actually. Obviously, you've got a medical background. So paddleboarding has recently been prescribed, it's gonna say subscribed, prescribed on the NHS, for mental health, you know, to improve people's mental health. And so yeah, I'd love to hear your professional opinion on that subject.

Dr Adya Misra  22:51  
Yeah, so it's paddleboarding is definitely part of the NHS is pilot in certain areas to get people out of their homes. I think social anxiety is a big problem in the UK anyway. And I think the last year and a half has probably brought that a little bit more to the surface. And we don't have enough resources to help everybody's mental health in the in the way that we'd like to, I think I think the the NHS in Scotland, actually, I remember a few years ago, they had started prescribing nature walks for people who felt anxious, and it started in Shetland. And it was, you know, a lot of people were so excited by that, that it was going to start everywhere. And it hasn't quite taken off in the way that I'd hoped that it would. I don't I mean, I see a lot of people walking because they have their daily walks, and you know, they're enjoying their local spaces. But it hasn't taken off in the way of social prescribing as I had imagined it would. Because people are still people are still feeling terribly anxious, terribly depressed. And these are problems that we have always had, that we're just talking about them a little bit more. And I think paddleboarding is such a nice tool that we have now to take somebody who's feeling a little bit under the weather, and make them feel better, even if it's for an hour a week, an hour or two hours every week. It's really nice. I just I really hope it's with the right providers, because I don't think everybody's geared up to deal with people who are suffering like that. There are a lot of people who are interested in performance and and racing and and it's not fair for them to be clubbed in with social prescribing. And equally, somebody who's interested in social prescribing shouldn't be expected to run performance sessions. So there are I know a few people who are uncomfortable taking people out if they have severe anxiety. And I feel that's really unfair, because it's something we all have elements of interest. Because somebody has told you that they have an anxiety problem, or, or anxiety every day that that's not a barrier, it shouldn't be a barrier. And we should be using our sport to help them get confidence back and feel feel less anxious. And it's completely possible.

India Pearson  25:18  
I guess it's I guess it's something that needs to be included more so in coaching training, so the coaches feel equipped when they have someone come to them from from that sort of background, but but I really believe that one of the reasons the NHS has acknowledged the likes of paddleboarding for for improving mental health is because you can pretty much only do it in nature. You know, I have seen SAP yoga done in a swimming pool, but very rarely and yeah, it's it's not it's not your usual usual way to do it. So the fact that you have to be on a canal river, a lake, the ocean, just means you're totally, you know, submerged in nature. And that's why I love it so much. It's inspired me to start this podcast even because I could see the impact moving in he was having on on my mental health as well. And did you find that just being in nature has a positive effect in your on your mental health?

Dr Adya Misra  26:33  
Oh, definitely, definitely. I think without, without paddling outside, if you told me I had to paddle in the pool, I wouldn't do it. I never went to pool sessions at any of the clubs that I've been part of the adult. Yeah, for me, for me pedalling is being outside having, I've mentioned this before, it's To me, it's almost like a meditative state. I'm I forget about everything else that's going on. I'm really in, in the moment, watching every ripple in the water, watching every branch that's floating my way. Even when I'm coaching, I encourage people to reflect where they are in the moment so that they can really focus on what they're doing and how they're interacting with, with the water really. And that's so important for our mental well being otherwise, we're just lost without an anchor in it, especially for people who live by the sea. They talk about that blue mind concept don't like. And it's it's so nice that we're finally talking about these things and encouraging people to not take charge, but at least, you know, get get the tools to help them in any way that that's possible.

India Pearson  27:46  
Yeah. And I know this love of nature has led you to become a planet patrol community guardian. So another role to add to your to your list. And so yeah, if you could tell us a little bit about this. I'm a big fan of palette patrol. I've led a couple of beach clean yoga sessions for those guys. And yeah, they do amazing work. But if you could tell us about your role as a community Guardian, that'd be awesome.

Dr Adya Misra  28:16  
Yeah, so I actually did that last year. So I'm, quite frankly, quite new to it. So if if somebody had told me five years ago that I'd be litter picking in the waterways, I'd say that they were crazy. I'd never thought that I'd be doing it. But I did notice that there was a very clear change in the dynamic in between us and nature are we're locked down, some people were out enjoying nature, taking walks, and others were just taking walks and throwing their rubbish and it's terrible to see it. I've never seen anything like it before. So I I started by just going on litter picks with others. And then planet patrol had this call for community guardians. So effectively, I'm one of the few people in the northwest that have been given the task of litter picking and changing the perception of being plastic free among the community. So were supposed to be contacting businesses and getting them to become plastic free, encouraging them to ditch their single use plastic, so that we can stop litter picking. I mean, I know we're trying to make it fun, but we don't want to keep doing that all of our lives. We want to start thinking about other materials that we can use instead of single use plastics. So the role that I have is really about encouraging people to think more more about the environment and where where our rubbish is ending up. I absolutely hate that feeling of just fishing out plastic bags and crisps and things like that and I can't buy them anymore Just because of the way I see them where they end up and I know mine may not end up But in that exact form, but I just can't buy it anymore. So starting with small changes on an individual level is still you know, it's a, it's a learning curve, and then getting other people to try it as well. It's, it's hard, sometimes very expensive. But the more we talk about it like everything else, I think more people trying it will make it cheaper, more accessible. And it shouldn't just be something for middle class rich people, it should be for every busy to be more sustainable, more conscious of the environment. So it's definitely a difficult task, though, I live in one of the most deprived regions of the UK, and there is a very clear link between, you know, socio economic depravity and littering. So we we're not blaming anybody, it's just trying to get people to think about it a little bit more.

India Pearson  30:52  
Yeah. And I actually definitely find that I don't see as much litter along my local canal when I'm walking my dog of the land, then when I'm in the water paddling, and I think you get home, diff Renae new perspective on on the issue when you're in the water, because, you know, someone drops a crisp packet on the floor, the wind will blow into the water, then they'll get all caught up in the reeds. And you only see that if you are on the water. So it is important for paddlers to get out and let it pick but but then equally, I think what is great about planet patrol is that they, they're trying to fight at the source. So they're trying to, you know, go to these companies who are creating most of the litter, like likes of Coca Cola and things like that. And so you're the issue, you need to sort out rather than obviously, just trying to constantly do loads of litter picks. Yeah, I mean, you must be so busy. Because obviously doing, doing the paper trail stuff is all voluntary. So doing that on top of your full time job.

Dr Adya Misra  32:10  
Yeah, I think in a week, I'm volunteering about three, four or five days a week. So, uh, wow. So you know, I'm always volunteering. I volunteer at my club. I volunteer with planet patrol. So it's, it's a huge part of my life. And it's really nice to be able to have that alongside my job.

India Pearson  32:28  
Well, it's fair to say you're one busy lady. All right. So just to round things off the big, big final question that I asked all my guests, which is looking back at the reports Eve made in your life, what are the biggest lessons you have learned for keeping your mind and body healthy? Oh, that's a very big question. Yeah, I'd say to the end.

Dr Adya Misra  32:54  
For me, I think the biggest thing I've learned is that moving, keeping, keeping moving, you know, not sitting inside. And moving outside is something that's hugely beneficial for my, my own mental well being. I think we've had some huge challenges in the last year and a half. But I've had, I've had to face some very big challenges before in my life, and I, if I had this knowledge at that time, I would have come out a bit stronger. And I wish I had that knowledge at that time. I started swimming in the sea, over this second big lockdown, and it's it's changed my life. It's changed my perspective on life. And that sounds, you know, so, so big and philosophical, but I really don't care about anything when I'm when I'm just being battered around by the waves. And everything just seems insignificant. And I don't think about the daily COVID stat or you know, the inbox that's overflowing with emails. It's really nice to just be outside and I wish more people would try it. Just Just being outside, walking, hiking, climbing, paddling, whatever it might be, whatever, since then. But it's hugely beneficial for us physically and mentally. And we should all be doing a lot more. Yeah, I've

India Pearson  34:18  
really seen a rise, a rise in it this year in particular, and actually mainly women, mainly women in my local bhsc going out for that for their morning dip.

Dr Adya Misra  34:30  
Yes, it's definitely between 30 and 60 age group,

India Pearson  34:34  
and you're doing it in Liverpool up in the freezing cold sea, right.

Dr Adya Misra  34:39  
I started in December because it was my birthday and I wasn't around my family and I thought I'm just gonna do something crazy. And I did and it was amazing. Absolutely brilliant. couldn't feel my feet for about three minutes but when for a little run and it was okay. Yeah.

India Pearson  34:55  
takes you back to those freezing cold temperatures in Sweden. I'm sure and Thank you so much. It has been amazing chatting to you today. And if anybody listening wanted to find out a little bit more about you read your blog or even book a coaching session with you, how can I do that?

Dr Adya Misra  35:13  
Okay, if you want to find me, I'm on Twitter and Instagram, mainly. Facebook is I'm not really using Facebook. So you can find me on Twitter as Dr. Addy Misra and on Instagram, I'm Queen idea. Because I like to think of myself as the queen. Absolutely. And if you want to have a coaching session with me, you should join Liverpool fan club, because I volunteer there, and I'm doing this for money. And I can do small groups, I can do one to one I can do big groups. And we're doing we're always doing new things at the club. And we run loads of courses for anybody who wants to try things or get better at paddling. So it's really for everybody. We have about 800 members. So it's a massive club and really nice energy there. So I really encourage everybody to join the club, if they want to paddle with me. Oh, and what about your blog to my blog? Yes, my blog is going to change very soon. I'm going to change the name and things like that. But you'll be able to see the link on my Instagram page. It's a mouthful. Yeah,

India Pearson  36:23  
I think I think that's how I've always found the link to read your latest or latest post.

Dr Adya Misra  36:30  
I'm doing a revamp on my website. And I'm going to be launching some things soon. And so yeah.

India Pearson  36:42  
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