We are joined by Lisa Shol, a volunteer at a couple of very important organizations, Big Sisters and the Minneapolis Crisis Nursery. KG calls in from Dallas while doing some Mall-Walking.
Welcome to the Kindness Chronicles, where we hope to inject the world with a dose of the Minnesota nice that it desperately needs. What is that sound in the background? Kg? This is the North Park Mall just outside of downtown Dallas. It's, uh, kind of a cloudy, borderline rainy day here in. The Dallas Fort Worth area. So I'm, I'm doing a little mall, walking mall Walker. I'm here with Steve Brown, as usual. And hey everybody. G'S got a special, uh, appearance by our pa, k g. It's been very busy tracing the wild around. That was a fun one last night. Heck of a hockey game. Uh, anytime you get double overtime in the Stanley Cup playoffs, it's uh, it's gonna be pretty epic. It. Uh, these are two evenly matched teams and, you know, they took our team away 30 years ago. So hopefully Minnesota can, uh, continue what they did last night, which is find ways to win and somehow survive the series because, uh, Do the Wild haven't won a, uh, first round playoff series since two 15. I think they've got the right team to do it this year. Is it just me or is there like the sound of a werewolf in the background? No, there's a dinosaur behind you. Kg. Please be careful. Is that a Vela Raptor? Yeah, it does. It's crowded here today because of the weather. It's uh Oh, I see, I see. So you're mall walking probably. Paint a picture for us. You got your fanny pack on. Come on. Counting your steps. Count your, how many steps you got in so far today? 85. Well, I've been here for a couple hours, so I mean, it's, uh, been a pretty good day, but I haven't graduated the fanny pack status yet. But you know, again, you never know. At age 56, we're, we're inching slowly and surely towards being a complete nerd. We're just about halfway there right now. What's the, uh, what's the Cibo situation there at that. Can you smell it? Haven't seen it. Don't smell it. Um, So Chipotle's different down here, right? It's got more of a tex mix. Oh. I mean, I like Chipotle every, all over the world. And. Figure if you're gonna come to to Dallas, you better than to get your than here at the mall, which I did about an hour and a half ago. And it was, uh, it was top notch. I've always been concerned about the fanny pack, sort of like when you're, uh, a little on the heavy side. And you get on the airplane and you're hoping, like hell, you don't have to put the extender on, you know? Yeah. I, I wonder if there's a Fanny pack extender accessory. I bet there is. I bet Be there is bet. Yeah, there is. Are you another reason not to get a fanny pack? Yes. Because that would be very, that would be difficult to, uh, to deal with Pack extender. So, kg it's been a while since we talked to you. have you witnessed any, uh, extraordinary acts of kindness? we got some new Swedes on the team. What kind of guys are they? Te te tell us about your experience. Well, I think the coolest thing I've seen here is the final regular season, game of the year was last week in Nashville. And the while we're clearly gonna arrest some of their top end guys, so they called up some players from the Iowa Wild. And you know, I'll give you an example. Nick Sweeney is a kid. He's from Lakeville and hadn't really been around the wild players since training camp. And so he flies in and you know, they get there the next day. The team arrives on one night. The next morning these guys come, come in and here are these veteran players like Marcus Valino and. Jared Bergon and all these guys like at the hotel giving these guys hugs and Oh, telling'em what a great season they're having with the Iowa Wild and kind of pumping'em up a little bit. And I'm like, you know, this is why Bill Garron had that vision, right? Of kind of being an inclusive team where everybody matters. And I, I love to see it kind of playing out that way where they make these guys feel so at home when they get the call. Cause it's a big deal for a young guy to get that call and. That's the type of kindness I'm looking for. Right. That when no one's watching, at least they didn't think anyone was watching. Mm-hmm. There were no cameras there. Uh, there were no coaches there. It was just the guys. And I happened to be in the back of the bus waiting to get off the bus and watched it. To me, that's what it's all about. There is a vibe on that team. Um, one example that I thought was pretty cool is when. The, uh, Brock Faber made his debut and they paired him with Goligoski, so he had probably the oldest guy on the team with the youngest guy on the team. And, uh, just watching those two guys kind of work together, it just, there's just, I don't know why that struck me as something that was, that was pretty special. But, uh, you know, Alex Goligoski is probably nearing the end of his career and, you know, Two guys that played for the golfers. Yeah. And Goligoski, uh, made his NHL debut. Brock Caber was in diapers. And how about that? Here they're paired up. I mean, it's incredible, right? I mean, um, and, and Alex Kowski is helping him, right? When he first gets to the wild. He's helping him learn the system. He's helping'em understand how, um, Every day. Look, the National Hockey League, where they get their food, how they move about their business, how to contact the trainer. So Kowski is helping this young man feel more comfortable knowing that when the playoff started, things go well, that guy that you're helping is probably gonna take your spot. Your spot. Yeah, exactly What happened. And Alex Kowski is the type of guy that gets it, understands the value for the team, and cares more about that than himself. And that to me is kind of, You know, we're talking about in this show when we get together is, you know, putting yourself in the back burner, thinking about the greater good. Well, it, it's, it's all over, it's right in front of you if you just pay attention to Alex Kaga, which you brought up as a great example. And what's really interesting is Brock Faber has a very brilliant future ahead of him. You mentioned. Alex Kowski, when he came into the N H L Brock Faber was in diapers. I wonder if by the time Brock Faber is leaving the N H L. If Alex Kowski will be in diapers, I knew that's where you're going. That's the circle of life right there. No, I'm teasing. That's a good, that's a good one. You know, and back along. So that's, that's a good one. You know, last night the wild had that big win. And one of the key plays in the game happened, huh? In the second overtime where Dallas has a wide open man and Brock favor dives back and how gets his stick on the puck. It's in a miraculous play, right? And, and so a lot of young guys when they get asked about it, are gonna try to take the glory and, oh, you know, just one of those great plays. And so I asked them, I said, have you ever made a play like that? He said, I blocked shots, rub my stick, never with an open net. And he paused and looked at me and said, now remember, if that puck goes in, that was my guy. So I was just doing my job, you know, that was the guy that I was supposed to be covering. So I was outta position and got lucky by throwing my stick back. Well, rather than talk about what a great play he made, he pointed out the fact that he was a little bit outta position and that was his guy that was gonna score the winning goal. So I found that to be, uh, kind of a humorous way to look at it. Well, and, and accountable. You know, one of the things that we all sort of, it, it seems like we encounter with young people is they're always looking to blame others for. You know, their situations and you know, there's an example of a guy who understands that being accountable is a very powerful way to, uh, demonstrate to your team that you are a team guy and you had a job to do and you were just fortunate enough to do it well enough to keep that puck out of the net, but probably not well enough to make it look easy. So, no, he didn't. And I, I think, you know, Brock Pav now signs his pro. Has plenty of money in the bank, and yet he's choosing to still. Over in Dinky town with us college buddies in a beat up old house like we all lived in back in college because he is not ready to say goodbye. And I, it's a, it's a fantastic story. He's a maple girl kid. He's a, he's a golden golfer and now he's playing for his hometown team. I think if you've been on social media in the last couple of weeks, you've seen the picture. It was from earlier this season when Brock favor and his college buddies got, uh, wild tickets and they were. The corner kind of on the glass and car Caprisa scored this amazing goal and it's a picture of Faber going crazy, standing up, jumping in the corner, cheering on car Caprisa, and now he and car Caprisa are chasing Wow. The Stanley Cup together. It's remarkable. He got on the other side of the glass. Kind of like Gunner from Maita did when he wanted to be on the other side of the glass. I guess Brock took a more, uh, conventional rouse. Yeah. There's a couple different ways to do that. There's two ways to, one will make, make you never have to climate. Yeah. One will kick y'all forever. One will make you a, a hall of famer. Maybe make you hall of famer. Very possible. Did you get to talk to anybody after the game kg? I got to talk to our goalie, Phillip Guston, um, who was just quirky and goofy as you would think, playing that position. And I got talk to the guy that scored the winning goal, Ryan Hartman. Yeah, everybody was all smiles at, I think it was like one 30 in the morning when we finally signed off on our broadcast. And, and uh, you know, I think people were a little bit, at least the players were a little bit beaten up and, and, uh, and sore as they kinda limped their way to the bus. But two o'clock in the morning we got back to the hotel and. Uh, they'll rest up today and hopefully come back and bring something similar to the ring tomorrow. So, kg we have a, a, a woman that we're gonna call. Do you need to get on with your life or do you wanna stick with us? It's all up to you. Oh, I'm fine. I'm just chilling here. This is great. Okay, so I'm gonna put you on pause and I'll, uh, I'm gonna add a call and I'll, we'll be right back. Kg. Meet Lisa. Lisa Meet kg. Hi Lisa. Hello. KG was up late last night. Double overtime with the Minnesota Wild. So Lisa, I assume you were up watching the game late last night? She was, for sure. I, I watched a little bit, but my, you did. My husband stayed up in watch. Oh, really? Okay. Well, isn't that fun? So Steve, introduce Lisa to the world. Okay. Yeah. Now that we, our world. Yeah. We didn't do a big reveal like we, like we've been doing. But, uh, I want to introduce you to Lisa Scholl. Lisa is a, a friend of mine from Target. Uh, we used to work together. She's an event, uh, planner, uh, producer, uh, extraordinaire. She's been doing that for a very long time. Is that on her business card? Yes. Extraordinaire. I think so. Okay. That's. But she also is, she's very involved in that. She has, uh, some small children. She's obviously married. She, her husband loves hockey. We know that now. And, uh, she is involved very heavily, and she's gonna tell us more about this, but in a, uh, the Minneapolis Crisis Nursery. Okay. As well as, for many years, she's been a part of the, uh, big Brother, big Sister program. And, uh, I want to hear, I, I think I knew that you were involved in Big Brothers Big Sisters, but I'd like to hear more about how that went for you, how long you were involved. Um, about your little sister and, and about more about Crisis Nursery that we talked a little bit earlier, but welcome to the Kindness Chronicles, Lisa Shaw. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, you know, Eight years ago I was kind at a place in my life where I was volunteering a a lot through Target, but it was always kind ones and as needed, and I was really looking for something that would have more consistency and something that could commit friend that doing Big Brother Big Sisters and had. Um, big Brothers, big Sisters, I believe they still have the requirements that when you start and commit, you're kinda committing for at least a year, which makes sense, right? You're about to enter a life of a little and you wanna make sure that the two of you bond and you have time to do that and you're committed. So I loved the idea that it was gonna kinda force me into monthly volunteering and something that hopefully would, would last quite a while. So eight years ago now, I was matched up with my little sister, her name is Lizzie. She's 16 now, which is crazy to believe. And we hit it off from the start. And, um, just had so much fun with Lizzie. At that point in my life, I didn't have kids, a lot of my friends didn't have kids, and so it was just an excuse for me to be like, go out and do kid things. Yeah. With another kid. Um, but what I love about the last eight years with Lizzie, It's not just a relationship that I have with her any longer, it's with her entire family. Um, I went to her older sister's high school graduation. Um, I'm super close with her mom and dad. My husband is good friends with the dad. We do family dinners together. They babysit my son. So it's just become, it's, it's grown so much beyond just Lizzie and I, and it's two families that maybe never would've met that are just so fond of each other, support each other in any way we can. Um, so it's just, it's. It's beyond my dreams could have been with this relationship. Um, and I love that it's turned into that. I think that's amazing that that was something that you looked into in your twenties or Yeah. Early thirties or something that, you know, this girl was eight years old when you met her. Yeah. Eight. Wow. How does the person find, uh, big, how do they pair you? Yeah. How do you. Yeah, so, so mom or dad, um, they signed, um, their, their child up, which I'm like, as a mom now, I'm like, what trust are they putting in? Strangers? Pick up their child and take them out and do things. Yeah. Um, and really the story of was just that she. You know, mom and dad were working really hard and they just wanted another mentor in her life and wanted her to get out and experience new things. And, and that's what we tried to do together, is just go out and do as many things as possible together. And now it's fun because we're talking about things like college and internships and jobs and, you know, teenage girl things. So our, our conversations have evolved greatly into more of like a place of. And like watching her become a teenager and open up in that, which I would not wanna be a teenager in today's world, like hearing her experiences, but I'm just so glad she has like another person in her life that she can like, be honest with and kinda share what she's going through. as You can tell, Lisa as a, as a kind of a high energy person, no. Yeah. And she is, she's got a huge heart and she's very outgoing and there might be a little enthusiasm for life going on. Yes. A lot of enthusiasm. You have, Lisa, and I think, uh, I think to be someone drawn to. You know, early on, that's a pretty cool thing that you knew you had the time for it, you knew you had the energy for it, and you knew there was something you wanted to do. That's, that's kind of a, kind of a cool thing to discover when you're that age. H how often would you spend time with Lizzie over the years? Like once a month? Yeah. So when you're first building your relationship, it's like every, uh, or twice a month. And then, you know, as you, as you get to know each other more, it's, it's about once a month they ask. So if my daughters wanted to get involved, how do we get involved in the process? What's steps required, Lisa, to get a young person involved? Because I, I can only imagine how rewarding this would be to have that type of impact on someone else's life. Yeah. Um, so I, I would assume if it was like when I started, you know, there's an application process and then a. A background check that you have to do and really they just wanna make sure that you're committed to the program. Um, so they'll ask you questions about your capacity for time and, and getting involved in, uh, the events that they have and really what they're looking for right now. I mean, any, anybody is welcome to apply, but last I heard they were really looking for men and boys to get involved cause they've got a waiting list of boys in Minneapolis that are looking for mentors. So, um, great opportunity for boys and girls to get involved. You know what? We should do this. Our kids are all grown. Mm-hmm. You know, can you imagine, remember that Seinfeld episode Kg Oh no. Where they all, oh no. Like took on an older, per, I'm being very serious here. You remember that episode? I do remember the episode. Yeah. He was very cranky. He got a mean guy. George got a mean guy. He did. I think it would be really, I, I, I, I think about the importance of making sure that you have somebody that's committed. Because can you imagine, you know, this little kid that's way worse. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. You know, you can, all of a sudden your big sister or big brother abandons you. Good lord. So Lisa, going into this, what was your challenge? I know you're a, what was your challenge going into? What were you thinking going into it? Like, good boy, you know, once you pair paired up, what was it like meeting her for the first time and like understanding what your role was? Or did you, did you have an idea or you just like, I don't know what I'm doing, let's try this out. Like how, how did that work when you first. Started. I was probably most nervous about my ability to entertain an eight year old. Like, like I said, I mean I was like a big kid at that time. So, you know, we had a list of things that I wanted to do, but I was like, what are the kids into these days? Yeah. But Big Brothers Big Sisters has like so much amazing programming that you can opt into too. Um, so we've done some really fun things with Minnesota Vikings and. Um, they have tours of, and they have different, um, sort of companies you can go to. So anything you're little is into, they try to cater and find like experiences to provide for you. But I think the thing that I was most nervous about, which is what happened to my friend, is that, you know, the family wasn't as involved and so it became really in her situation, hard to schedule the play dates Oh. And get ahold of mom and, and start to build that relationship with the family. That allows you to kinda have that flexibility in scheduling or. Um, and because I was able to create that relationship with the family, it just was seamless for me. So, and I know that's not everybody's experience, but really realizing that like this individual is this one part of this bigger piece in her life, like how can I get involved and get to know that part of her too, I think was really beneficial for our relationship as well. Yeah, good. Good for the parents and wow, they lucked out when they. They found you like, seriously luck out. I'm so lucky. Well, and and you know, when you first were referring to her as you're little, I thought, what a cute term of endearment. But it's probably a term of art within that organization. Are you considered the big Yes. Yeah. Bigs, but I mean, that's kind of cute. No, I've heard that. Yeah, I've heard that. That's cool. You know, I gotta pay attention. That's very, that, that's lovely. Um, the other organization that it sounds like you're, uh, you're engaged in is the, uh, the Minneapolis Crisis Nursery. And I know a little bit about that organization and it gives me goosebumps when I think about the work that's being done by those people. Obviously, this stuff that you're doing is life changing for, for the lives of these young people. You know, I think of. You know, one of the things that I love about my friend group, uh, specifically my wife's friend group, which, you know, Kevin's, uh, gal Chrissy, is a part of, is just those meaningful relationships that you have with people who aren't your parents, who aren't your family, but love you and. And to have access to those type of mentors that have all these different experiences than your parents have. It's just what a wonderful gift changed the game. Yeah. Yeah. Seriously. And you're probably providing something to this girl that she's not gonna get from her parents because, It's a different relationship. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So, I'm sorry I switched from, from the crisis nursery. I just, I kept thinking about, I'll be editing that stupid last question out. That's nice. But let's, let's go back to Lisa. Tell us about the Minneapolis Crisis Nursery for our listeners. Thanks for getting me back on track. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, no problem. He's got a, he's got a engineer hat on here. He looks like a chain conduct, train, conductor, whip crack. Tell us about the, yeah, so the. The Greater Minneapolis Crisis Nursery has been a resource that Minneapolis has had there celebrating their 40th year. So they've been around for a really long time, which the community should be so grateful for. It's so unique, um, in that it offers a place for parents to bring their children when they are in times of crisis, so it's not a babysitting place. You are dropping your children off for 24 to 72 hours. But a lot of times parents are doing it outta necessity cause they're experiencing homelessness, domestic violence, um, you know, they need to try to apply for a job, try to apply for housing. They don't have a support network here. So it really resonates with me when you talk about like, people that love you that aren't in your family. Like when I became a new mom, my love for the crisis nursery strengthened that much more. I be, I just thought to myself like, I'm so lucky that I. People that can help when I'm stressed or I'm sick or tired and I just need a break from my child, you know? And, and those aren't times of crises, but there's real, like emotional stress that comes with being a parent. Mm-hmm. And if you don't have that who turn, do you make sure your child is healthy and happy and care yourself a parent? So the nursery operates 365 days a. They take in children, they did it all through covid, which is amazing. The workers there are angels, and then they also work with mom or dad to figure out like what's the root cause of the issue, right? Is it housing? Is it transportation? Is it, do you need financial support? Do you need to build a network, find you other resources? So it's not just about that one time thing that they try to solve for. They really try to help the family, proceed with a better future so that they don't need their services in the future. So it's kids six and under, can come there and they're given food and new clothes and a bath and toys and they have volunteers and, um, Uh, therapists, professionals that are there to work with them during their stay. So do they employ social workers as well? To help people with, a homelessness problem or having, career challenges? Do they, em, yeah. So on staff, they have, they still have family, kinda family therapy backgrounds for sure. she's not a spokesperson for this organization, but that's kind of the person she is, it's amazing, Lisa, that you're so involved and, and can speak very eloquently about what they do. That's and one of the. Of this little podcast that we do, is we want to uncover these stories of kindness that would otherwise go untold. And it takes all types to make these things work. Like a couple of, uh, weeks ago, we had Jenny Flora on from Crescent Cove, and Crescent Cove is an organization that provides hospice and respite care for children. Yeah. And it's one of only three hospices like that in the country. I. Was thinking what if I just need a break from my kid? Cuz I need to, to, like you said, go apply for a job. Yeah. Or get prepared for something. where is it located? It is in South Minneapolis. And can I tell you guys about a man that works there? Yeah, I got his approval yesterday to, to tell you about him cause I was there cooking lunch. So Keith runs the Cook for Kids program at the nursery and he also is in charge of the kitchen. Keith is there breakfast, lunch, and dinner if volunteers aren't there to help serve meals. And he did this selfless. I mean, he's employed, but he did this all through Covid. He showed up, he fed those little babes at a time when, it was scary to show up and do that. And he was there without volunteer support for a really long time. Wow. Um, just working in the kitchen by himself, feeding these children. And I don't know exactly how long he spent at the nursery, but he. Such an amazing human and just, it works crazy hours to make sure everybody is fed and full and he's just such a, such a gem. And what's his name? His name is Keith. Keith. So how many kids at a time would be at the crisis nursery? They're ramping up post covid. Um, and so at, at times it can get up to like 16 or 20. I think right now they're maybe at like. But there's six and under, so you can imagine it can be a pretty rambunctious group at times. I think about the anxiety that must on both sides of the coin, the anxiety for the little. The little person. Mm-hmm. As well as the parent, I mean the trust that they must have. Uh, tell me about what you've experienced as far as the emotions that go on with something like that. Yeah, it's tough. So you, there's two ways to volunteer with a crisis nurse. Two main ones. Doing a cooking program or being a childcare volunteer. I do the cooking program. So I come in with friends or by myself and bring the groceries and cook a meal. And when you do that, you get to serve the meal and you get to meet the kids and, and their caretakers. Um, and sometimes the kids, they're having fun. You can tell they've been there before. And then there are the ones that are quiet and they're. And they're crying and sometimes they just wanna be and hugged and you can tell that this is, this is rough for them. And maybe what they were experiencing before they came to the nursery was rough too. So, you know, childcare volunteers and the childcare specialists that are there very much are used to working in trauma situations and they're working with those kids. But you see. You see some pretty tough emotions, especially from littles that can't communicate that themselves. Right. So they're just looking to anybody and everybody to clinging to and like feel, love and safety from. are there infants that are brought to the crisis nursery? we have like a six week old. Wow. Oh wow. Some postpartum depression. So, I mean, thankfully she had a place to turn to, to, to get relief, you know, and I can only imagine as a parent, you're conflicted about having to drop off your child, but probably at the same relieved that you can take care of your business, take care of yourself, and not have to worry about the safety Your child's when you get through that trauma, that of the moment, um, a huge relief. Right? Well, it's gotta be overwhelming sometimes when you're trying to make ends meet, when you're trying to keep your career going and you've got kids. And a lot of these times in these circumstances, it's first time parents that just aren't. In a good spot to, to really handle all those stressors and to have a spot like that, it, it's just gotta be lifechanging. Yes, for sure. Would, would it be accurate to, uh, to, to believe that the majority of these kids come from single parent homes I dunno the specific statistic. Ok. But I do know that we see a good amount of, um, you know, domestic violence. So mom kinda cleaned the situation and um, and, and stuff like that. So, which in and of itself has to be scary I would imagine that from time to time in those domestic violence situations, dad shows up looking for their kid. How does that work? Oh, gosh, the nursery is very non-discreet. You, if you spent time in South Minneapolis, you probably have passed it and not even realized it. That's good. But they do try to keep it, um, you know, more discreet for that reason. Okay. Lisa, walk me through this. Say, say, I wanted to volunteer. sounds like you, you, you plan a meal, pick up groceries, and you know how many you have to cook for. Like, walk us through what, how that works for you, like you just did this last night and what's your best meal? What do they like? Well, I also, not only do I play like a kid, I also eat like a kid. Ok. So they're lucky when I come in it's like mac and cheese. Yeah. None, none of that vegetable stuff. Oh, yes. Um, also, I try to remind myself again, these kids are young and they've gone through trauma. Whole goal is consume food. Yeah. So, I, I, I preface that cause you don't have to be like a chef to go do this, but there's a couple different ways to get involved. You can. Commit to being a childcare volunteer and that like Big Brothers and Sisters requires background tracks. Mm-hmm. References a training process. But you know, if you wanna hold babies, if you wanna be there to support the people who are like working with these kids, you can sign up for, I believe it's maybe a monthly commitment where you're onsite for a couple hours, like working directly with the kids, or you can do the cooking. So they're always looking for teams or families or friends to come in. Breakfast, lunch and dinner seven days a week. There's a couple different options. You can just like financially support the meal. You can have Keith's grocery shop for you when you show up and cook it, or you can plan the meal for yourself and bring all the groceries on site and it's open to anybody, 12 and up. So if you have teenagers that are looking for volunteer events, Like, it's just a really great way to get teens involved too. How do you know how much you gotta make? I'm getting specific now. Like you say, you know, you're gonna go tomorrow and you know, there's, do they tell you how many kids are gonna be there or do you not know that? Yep, yep. Keith messages, you good old Keith, and he tells you how many kids, how many adults, and then there's like a menu chart you follow to make sure we're not serving, you know, chicken nuggets seven days a week. Right, right, right. Why aren't our gals and their group of 17 friends doing something like this almost all of. Our, uh, empty nesters, which is so sad. Our youngest is, graduating from high school this year. can you imagine those gals make and we could be there to support them and, and eat whatever it is. We could be there to entertain your wife. We could be, yeah, we could tell, knock, knock jokes and make balloon animals, but all kidding aside, I, why aren't we doing this? Yeah, yeah. That's a great idea. And I, I think, you know, But we'll get more out of it than anybody else. While without question, and, you know, kg you wouldn't, you wouldn't have to worry about Clampers, you know, because you're, you know, because you're a minor local celebrity, but the six-year-olds aren't gonna know that. Right? Bring your fanny pack, whatever, back on that fanny pack. Then. Seriously, Lisa, you have inspired me, both of the organizations that you have chosen to, uh, gift your time to, and your resources are too, that. Why haven't we had her on before? Steve? I don't know. She's a, she's a busy target team member. She's also a busy mom and wife. I don't know how you finding time to do all this, Lisa? Like, well, I'll make a, I'll make a plug, like, I dunno the statistic off, but volunteer is down. Since Covid. Oh yeah. The financial giving is down since Covid, so I know we're all kinda reintroducing ourselves into our old habits and ways of being, but anything to kinda get back in and support these great organizations that were working the entire time, some of us were at home, I think is like a pretty special thing to be able to do. do they need volunteers or are they, are they sitting pretty good at this point? No, they need volunteers, and this month is actually a child abuse awareness month, and so we're trying to get hundred percent of the meals covered. I think we're at 60% in past years. Hundred percent would've been an easy thing to do. So we're reintroducing ourselves to past volunteers. You know, for a while our doors were shut. There were only 10 of us volunteering through Covid, just from a safety standpoint. So now we wanna scream out loud to the community. Our doors are reopened. We wanna invite you back in. We need your support. Okay. Um, until spreading that message. Yeah. All right. Let's go team. Yeah. I mean, there's no reason why we, we can't inspire our audience and inspire each other. To figure out a way to get in there to help out, if not just for with some cash or some time spend and help make some food. And yeah, if you're interested in volunteering, uh, call Kevin Gorg. He's organizing a team at 9 5 2 0 8, but you work on this, John, we're sincerity and you know, we'll invite Steve and he can see how, uh, how much fun we can be. But we have to be done by nine o'clock cuz we don't stay up very late. No, we go to bed early. We're getting old. Lisa, do you have a couple websites to tell us about, like we can pass those along? the Crisis Nursery is the crisis nursery.org. And Big Brothers would be Big Brothers, big Sisters. I think it's b b bsn org. Oh, cool. Seems easy. Well, thank you so much for joining us and showing us about this. I, this was, uh, it's great to hear you hear your voice again. It's been a long time since I've actually talked to you. Thank you for having me. This was fun guys. You've inspired us. How many kids do you have of your own? I have two. Two stepchildren and one, three and a half year old. Oh my goodness. 10 year old golden doodle. So Oh wow. Those golden doodles are the best. I love those golden doodles. I know. They're the strangest and so sweet. Mine's paning in the backseat if you can hear it. Kgs sort of like our version of a golden doodle. You know, he doesn't shed too bad a lovable guy. He is, he's lovable. I'm fluff the shed. Yep. Doesn't shed cuz it all this hair is already. See, why would I say that? That's friendly. That's, that's kindness. All right, Lisa, thank you. You, Lisa, care KG care. Go get some steps in. Have a good night. And uh, off we go.