This week we discuss all things Canvas Health with Julia Yach, Director of Development and bunch of other stuff at Canvas. Canvas has 35 programs that provide support to people of all ages. We discuss their programs in the mental health space and a unique Embedded Social Worker Program with the Columbia Heights Police Department.
This week we discuss all things Canvas Health with Julia Yach, Director of Development and bunch of other stuff at Canvas. Canvas has 35 programs that provide support to people of all ages. We discuss their programs in the mental health space and a unique Embedded Social Worker Program with the Columbia Heights Police Department.
welcome to the Kindness Chronicles, where we hope to inject the world with a dose of the Minnesota Nice that it desperately needs. Middle of January. The weather is starting to turn. It's going to be in the mid 40s by next week. Yeah, we're going to be out of our cold snap. Life is very good. I'm, uh, here with, Steve Brown. Hi! KG, are you, uh, you on the line? I'm on the line, and, uh, yeah, we're getting through the dog days of winter. If we can get through another month here, and you can see March on the horizon. As a Minnesotan, that kind of starts the process of, uh Even though this winter has been kind of a joke. It really does. It really does. And then we also have, uh, Julia Yock. And Julia is with, uh, Canvas Health. And we're going to get to her in just a second. But first, KG, we always like to hear about where in the world is Kevin Gord? Uh, remember Matt Lauer before he was a pervert? Um, before he got But I should say he was probably always a pervert before he got busted for being a pervert. where are you at these days, KG? Just got home late last night. Uh, we had a little, uh, three city, kind of a southern tour of Tampa Bay, um, Fort Lauderdale, and then finally close it out in, uh, in Raleigh, North Carolina. And all was a little extra special because I'm the friend of the trip. I got to see my oldest daughter, Katerina, who lives in Orlando. Oh yeah, that's cool. Drive over to Tampa for a dinner. Which was lovely and then, uh, Lou Nanny was our, uh, guest analyst in the booth calling the games, the godfather of hockey in Minnesota at age 81. He's still a rock star and so we got to break bread with Louie, uh, in, um, in Raleigh and it ties in to Julia because the night we were out to dinner, um, in Raleigh, we went to, uh, a steakhouse that John and I are quite familiar with from, uh, days gone by, Ruth's fifth. And, um, as we were leaving, about half of the wild team was in a little private area upstairs, and they were coming down the stairs, so we connected with Marcus Foligno and asked them what they were up to, they all had these notebooks in their hands, and, um, which was strange on a non game night, and he said, well, I'm the player rep, and we get together every so often, um, to do different activities with some of the players, and they were working on, um, Mental health and they had an expert in rally. That's a retired NHL player that now Helps kind of bridge the gap for players if they need help and so I would say there was probably eight ten maybe players Led by Marcus Polino that were in a meeting that night and going over mental health, which I thought was pretty impressive. I was wondering how you were going to connect this to Julia due to the fact that you don't know her. And I thought, where is he going with this? And, uh, are you a wild fan, Julia? Say yes. Yes. Yes, very much so. Very good. Good answer. KG, it was a successful road trip, which is kind of fun. Yeah, they won two out of three, and I guess, you know, going into the road trip. Yeah, all three were teams that were favored to beat the Wilds, so that was kind of exciting. And then, you know, we got to see, um, Kirill Kaprizov kind of take over. And he had the hat trick in Raleigh and just was named the first star of the week in the National Hockey League. Yeah, it was a happy bunch of players coming home last night. And, um, you know, that hasn't been the case, uh, most of this season. It's been a tough year for the For the team. And I think right now they're starting to get a little more healthy and playing a little bit better. And I think these guys still care tremendously about, you know, how they're playing and what they're doing. So it was nice to finally have a. A plane ride home that wasn't so somber. Alright, so I have a question for you, KG. This isn't like a joke. Is it coincidental that they're working on their mental health based on all the ups and downs they've had for the last, you know, couple months? Was it, was that timing, it just work out that way or, or was it something to try to help them get through all that? Any idea? I think it was coincidence. Okay. And the reason I say that is because You know, when, when they're talking mental health and the National Hockey League, and I've had a conversation with a couple of these guys, you know, it's, it's the behind the scenes stuff where, you know, the pressure of the job, um, the next contract, moving your family, getting traded, having good friends get traded. Sometimes there's a lot of isolation. Uh, these guys aren't like the players of the seventies and eighties that were going out every night, heading to the bar or the restaurant and partying. And these are, these are well trained athletes that have an early dinner and talk in and. You know, it's been a year where they've had a lot of travel. They've had a lot of injuries. They've been dealing with a lot of stuff away from the rink. And I think the mental health aspect, I think people always just assume if you're a professional athlete and you have a lot of money and you have a beautiful family, that it's, it's always easy. And I think we live on social media and places like Facebook where everybody just believes that everybody else is so happy and their lives are so perfect. That isn't the case behind closed doors. And I think for hockey players, it's always really hard. to admit you need help. These are guys that play through broken bones and all kinds of injuries on the ice, off the ice. They're not as equipped to handle some of these things that come up and they're serious issues. And so I think, um, it might have just been a coincidence that this particular former player lives now in Raleigh and the Wild had a night off. But, uh, it's certainly something that the league is really starting to focus in on, hone in on, because the stronger they are off the ice, as a group. And these are all the players in the National Hockey League. The better the product will be on the ice. And there are some players, uh, in the in the past calendar year that have taken a leave of absence to get really specific help for some hard, hard things. And they don't disclose what the issue might be. But players are given time away from the team as much time as they need. I think the National Hockey League has been very proactive and Helping these guys get through some tough situations. And you know, you think back to like the late 70s with the New York Islanders for example. Didn't they win four cups in a row? Yes. And those guys after every game would pound a pack of heaters. They would be smoking cigarettes in the locker room and getting hammered. 70s, yeah. these people are so much more physically fit and more concerned with their health and probably Crazy about it. You know, I mean, longevity too, right? Well, you know, I'll give you an example. So we were in Raleigh yesterday and the game gets over and it was a hard game. Carolina was peppering the wild net with 40 plus shots on goal. And my two post game interviews were the goalie, Philip Gustafson, and one of our big defensemen, Jake Middleton. And I had to wait for both guys because after a 2 hour and 45 minute hockey game, Both guys had to go work out with the strength and conditioning coach. And I'm not talking, you know, stretching out in calisthenics. I'm talking a hardcore workout where they came over, huffing and puffing. This is after a hockey game. And this is the norm now in the national hockey league. So there are no heaters and there are no blue skis. And it's just a different athlete to John's point in all sports. They've realized that their bodies are their business and they have a. A career that could last two or three years. If they're lucky, it could last 8, 10, 12 years. And if you're a Hall of Famer like Marc André Fourier, it could last 19 or 20 years. But the bottom line is, if your body can't respond, and you're not physically fit and ready to go, Um, and back to my original point, if you're not mentally in a good space, then it's going to affect your business, and your business could be bad. Well, now it helps me understand why I'm not a professional athlete. You know, the idea of all of that physical fitness stuff is just Too much. It's too much. It's a workout after a workout. Yeah. Oh, I mean, who does that? You cool down from your workout with some workin out. I like, you know what my workout after workout is? dessert after a good meal. So, speaking of mental health, Steve, how have you been? No, I'm teasing. We are here with an old friend of mine, not old as far as age is concerned, but I've known Julia for, I don't know, 10, 12 years. And just today I learned how to pronounce her last name. It's Y A C H, which is Yaak, apparently. Um, I've been calling her Yak, which I thought, you know, that's kind of a funny name, but I've never really wanted to say anything because I'm such a kind person. I love that. This is the moment she actually got to really, it really matters right now, she, she actually could confront you with this, is actually Yak. Yak. And Yach, it sounds almost like it's some sort of, uh, Eastern European sort of a name, right? At least in Atlantic, yeah. How are you doing? I'm doing well, thank you for having me. Julia is the Director of Development, Marketing, Communications, all those things at Canvas Health. I became aware of Canvas Health while working with the, uh, the fine folks at Lakeview Health Foundation because one of the Canvas Health employees, Sue Sperber, is on their board and Lakeview has been a long time, uh, supporter and advocate of the work that Canvas Health does. I did not realize just how extensive the Canvas Health network is. It's remarkable. I would suggest, uh, after this, not now because when Because you're listening to the podcast. Go check out the Canvas Health, programs. It's unbelievable. So tell me, for starters, how is it that you found your way to CanvasHealth initially? So I worked at the Autism Society of Minnesota and got myself kind of wrapped up in the non profit world and um, was looking for a new challenge and ended up at CanvasHealth and so I've been there for about 10 years and um, it is. It's a really great organization. Um, we have To, to your point, we have 35 different programs to help people of all ages. So from little, little kids to the elderly. And so it really, we really do great work in all facets of mental health and substance use care. When did it change from substance abuse to substance use? Seriously, it seems very specific. So that is a state mandated term. Oh, is it really? Interesting. The state wants us to call it that. And I think it's in the spirit of kindness, substance use sounds a lot nicer than substance abuse. That's true. COVID had to have been just an absolute chaos for you people. Tell us about, uh, you know, I'm getting right into it, but I think about Just the challenges that young people had dealing with COVID not being able to go to school and not being able to see their friends and not be able to see their, their classmates faces and tell us about what that was like that had to have increased the demand for your services. Yes, I mean, we definitely saw a lot of people dealing with isolation, and, um, one of our challenges was how do we provide the best kind of services to them, um, when they're at home? Um, we had to ramp up, of course, our telehealth services. Telehealth was just kind of a thing that we did sometimes, and it basically What is telehealth? So telehealth is having your therapy session via your phone or via your computer. Your therapist is on one side of the screen and you're on the other, and you know, everything is all on the up and up. Everything is HIPAA compliant and all of those things, but it really enables people to have their therapy from wherever they are. And, um, that became really important, of course, during COVID because, um, we didn't have as many people coming into the office. Um, some of our programs really struggled with that, especially little kids. Um, we see, uh, we have an early childhood program that sees zero to five kids. And that, um, imagine doing therapy with a zero to five. Um, they're, you know, they're running around with their iPad, their, their parent is chasing them. Um, so we did bring some services back. Um, we also learned a lot about how to serve people better when they are in an online environment, but And probably more efficiently. Yes, definitely. You know, the technology piece became more efficient and just the way our, our clinicians were able to kind of handle that kind of care. Yeah, I know like in the medical setting, the use of, telehealth visits ramped up substantially. And I think about, the times that I've tried to make a doctor's appointment. It's like, God, do I really need to go all the way down there just so I can get a prescription for whatever ailment I think I have. And it's just so much simpler 40 bucks and off you go. So yeah, actually it's super interesting. The tele, Health world, especially with psychology. So if you are having a, you know, a session with someone, I'm assuming that it must have been a hard thing to sell to get, uh, you know, doctors and therapists to buy into it because they don't have that connection with somebody. But. Obviously it, it worked. They were able to break through and maybe it's a little on, the patient side where they're actually more open or something, but how cool is that, that actually that broke through for a lot of, a lot of areas for meetings and all this stuff too, but that especially, it's really interesting that you'd be able to offer someone help with it. Mental health issues on a, on a call on your computer, that's Yeah, and I think for people who are, you know, have maybe transportation barriers or other types of barriers to get care, it really is a good solution for them. I think in a lot of cases mental health is Um, but it definitely offers, especially now that we're out of COVID, it, it does offer a good solution for people who, um, you know, might even be facing some anxiety with coming in an office. Um, of course that's the, the folks we see, um, and they're able to come and do their therapy via telehealth. Did you consult with a therapist before coming here tonight? Because you said that you might've had some anxiety about coming down. In studio too, by the way. In studio. She asked if there was going to be cameras because she was already sweating. As you can tell, by the last, uh, seven or eight minutes, this woman has no problem talking about Canada's health. Well, there are no cameras either. I told her, I said, I can edit out all the errs and the ums and I haven't heard one yet. So, whatever. Our listeners don't care. They know. They know how we speak. Yeah, they've been listening to us. You know, I did talk to my friend Katie, who is actually our Director of Child and Family Services and she is a therapist, so I did actually talk to someone before I came here. Good. Yep, so I'm ready. There you go. Could I get her number so I can talk to her when we're out down here? Of course. Um, KG, you're kind of quiet. You got any questions for Julia? Yeah, I didn't want to interrupt, but, you know, Julia coming out of COVID now, um, what are some of the, um, the issues, the key factors that kids are dealing with? Because I just, you know, I, my three daughters are a little bit older. My youngest is still in college. The other two are out there and functioning somewhat as adults, but somewhat, well, you know what I mean? I mean, it's varying degrees of success. Getting through just fine. I'm proud of him. But I guess my question is we live in a world as I mentioned earlier, we're watching my youngest grow up, you know, in that generation. She's 19 years old right now. So much time on the screen. So much attention. to Instagram, Snapchat, the social media vehicles. What are the effects that you're seeing and what are some of the key areas that the Canvas Health is trying to kind of forge through to help these kids get to a good place and a good space mentally? I think we are dealing with kids coming out of isolation who maybe that was where they were comfortable, that's maybe where they They felt good is not having to deal with that. I didn't even think of that. Kind of getting them to re socialize and socialize anything. I think that's been something really important. Um, we have some interesting, uh, day treatment programs actually that help kids who are not doing well and maybe a mainstream. school situation and they can come into our office. They are, uh, able to do therapy, social skills, all those kinds of things, and also do their schoolwork in our full day program. And that helps the kids who really have not been able to reintegrate back into, uh, to a mainstream school setting and really helps them get some skills so then they can go back into, uh, uh, Uh, school setting and, and really do well and thrive. And so that's kind of one of our programs that kind of really deals with, with some of those kids in high school, especially. And do you have multiple locations? We have seven clinics. Oh, wow. Yes. In the, in the So it's not just Oakdale. That's right. We have seven clinics throughout, throughout the Metro. Um, we are about 50 percent of our services are in the community and 50 percent are in our clinics. Oh, okay. So we have a school based program, for example, so we're actually in the schools with embedded therapists. We are in 40 different school buildings now, so kids are able to do their therapy with our therapists in the school. They don't have to leave. Um, that helps break down barriers for parents who maybe can't get their kids to a, an after school port appointment or, um, and then the therapist can also talk with the teachers about the kid and make sure that they're getting a really great plan in place to help the child succeed in their classroom. How are, um, how are other kids seeing other kids getting help? So what's the tone and attitude about mental health issues with kids now? You know, I can speak, um, I have two teenagers and I feel like they are really more receptive to talking about mental health and they're more receptive to kind of You know, I'm going to go with therapy. I'm going to go see my therapist. Um, I think it's, it seems to be getting better in that way. I think the, the next generation is doing better with it than generations before. Um, because they, they have seen a lot of things, um, go wrong when people do struggle with their mental health, um, significant depression, anxiety, um, suicides, things like that. I mean, I think that they, they have seen it. What can, what can happen and so they're more receptive to maybe seeing their friends or themselves get that help. And I do think that one of the benefits, frankly, of social media is that a lot of these influencers like the Selena Gomez's of the world and Noah Khan and some of these people that have got such a presence. In the social media community. They're very open and honest about their struggles with mental health. Therapy has almost become something that's cool. you and I listen to SmartList. They talk about going to therapy like it's going to the dentist. Like you almost have to go. They're high paid celebrity guys. They are high paid celebs. But, but it does sort of normalize it for Yes, especially for teenage kids who are influenced by that. Absolutely. Justin Bieber, I mean, clearly that guy needed some help and it's working for him. so I think it's very interesting. The admission that you need help. No, I agree. I, I agree that, that um, it's become far more of, like you mentioned going to the dentist. When we were growing up You know, you had that, that, that note from mom or dad, they were going to pick you up at a certain point during the school day and take you to the dentist. Nowadays, there's enough students that are, that are going to get therapy that it's the same thing. And that's a good thing because it used to be so unique that kids didn't know how to handle it. And that's where some of the, the teasing, the name calling could have come from. It's not the case anymore. And I, I guess, Julie, if we have people that are listening, uh, to this podcast and have. a connection to maybe it's their kid, maybe it's a nephew, a niece, a friend of their kids. Um, how do they get in touch and how do they qualify to get care? Uh, at your place. So we serve everyone. Um, like I said, we serve all ages. And one of the great things about Canvas Health is that, um, we are a nonprofit, so we do exist to help, um, the underserved so we can help people if they're on medical assist. Um, if they're on Medicaid and if they're, um, on commercial insurance, so they would, uh, call our office, um, it's 651 777 5222, or they can go to canvashealth. org and request an appointment online. Um, but we really do work to try to make sure that everyone gets served and if we can't, if we don't have services for them or if we can't serve them, we, we try to help them find a different kind of service that will, um, help them. them with whatever they have going on. KG is obviously the, uh, the most, uh, professional, uh, broadcaster, broadcaster that we have, because he always gets to that point. Tell us, how do we connect with you? But is he a little early? He's a little early. Usually we've got, I've still got some more questions. Can I tie something? Yes, please. A lot of questions, but I was thinking though, as I was listening to, um, and it's fascinating to me because I know at certain points in my life as a young person, I probably could have used some of this. And it wasn't something, you know, honestly, back to that seventies and eighties, back when we were kids and we sound old because, well, frankly, I feel old some days at 56, but it's changed dramatically and I think it's changed for the better. And so I just, I think it's important as we kind of, you know, find all the different tentacles that this wonderful, uh, place, you know, can provide, um, you know, help for these kids that, that as folks are listening, they have a game plan that maybe they can. I hope we're asking the type of questions that our listeners would be asking if they were here with Julia too, because it feels like we're kind of going behind the curtain. And I think that is a really cool aspect of, you know, a new way of doing things. And this sounds like a place where everybody's welcome. And I think people are in different places of need. All are welcome. Yeah. It even says it on their website. Well, it's pretty tough for people right now, right? I mean, not just kids coming out of COVID, families coming out of COVID, jobs lost. Um, a change in, in the finances and so something like this to me is, is incredibly important. When I was a kid, went to grade school, there was a friend of mine, he was a good friend of mine. He had a therapist that came in, but we didn't really understand what it was. So they would come in and he would go, it wasn't a music class. It was like, we're like, was it like speech therapy? It wasn't, but we didn't really know what it was. It was just someone he went and talked with. So you made fun of him? No, there was none of that, because he was a good friend of all of ours. What I'm trying to say, yeah, it could have been that way, but it wasn't. It was just more of a, like, strange questioning. What's going on with him? What's that all? We didn't know. And we never made fun of him about it, but it was really That's good. Well, with St. Jude's, you know, come on. That's true. You get smack weird good kids smacking the, the, and he was our friend Knuckles with a ruler. Like, he, he would make fun of himself because he was like that, but he, he would have to go visit with this teacher and we're like, have you seen him lately? Yeah, yeah. He's, he's fine. Is okay. He's great. Very good. He's great. But, um, the, it was very much just this really questioning mystery. What, what's going on with him? Why is he, and, and I think if we would've known. Would have been kids today if people understand it and they go, Oh, yeah, but there may be all right. I mean, and again, I think You know, people think of social media as this destructive weapon. And it really can be a useful tool in some respects because a lot of this stuff, and I've said it before, it just has become normalized because, there are influencers out there on social media, not that I'm like spending a lot of time on Instagram and those things, but I've Are you an influencer, John? Are you getting there? Well, Kindness Chronicles, hello. No, but I just, I, okay, I want to switch gears. Um, one of the programs that I discovered as I was doing show prep, Steve. What? Yes, I was doing show prep. About time. Was, um, the Embedded Social Worker Program. And the reason I bring that up is a couple of weeks ago we had Mike McGinn, who, is a retired sergeant from the St. Paul Police Department. And when After the George Floyd thing happened, there was all this talk about we need to defund the police and we need to bring social workers in. And you heard all this hubbub about it, but you never really heard of anybody actually doing it. Well, Canvas Health, and I specifically read about the Columbia Heights Police Department, has had extraordinary success. with their embedded social worker program. Can you just explain how that came to be? Yeah, this is, she even has notes for this. She is so prepared. She's prepared. It's a great question though, John. Thank you. It's an, it's an incredible program. Um, so we, uh, partner with Columbia Heights and we have two social workers who are embedded with the police officers in that department. Uh, they go out on calls that, that could potentially be mental health calls. Or, um, or if they know our mental health calls, uh, they, uh, because they have frequent flyers, like you have frequent. Right. Yeah, that is true. There, there are folks who do call frequently. Um, and so, um, we do have, um, so our social workers are in street clothes. They are with the police officers. They, um, police officers will make sure everything is safe. Um, one of the questions we get a lot is do those social workers feel safe when they're going out on these calls and our social workers have said, we're the safest social workers out there because we have the police officers with us. Um, they go into a situation and they will talk to, uh, the, the person involved in what they say. And this, this is a kindness thing. What they say is this person is going through their hardest day of their life potentially. And they don't, they want. Kindness. They want someone to say, Hey, it's okay. Like, we're going to help you through this. We're going to get you some resources. We're going to get you the help that you need. Uh, we are, we're going to try not to, you know, um, get, I mean, the police are already involved, but we're going to try not to have it. Um, so we have seen such success in terms of numbers with this. So 97 percent of cases where a social worker has been involved are resolved with no use of force. So these social workers. Yeah. It is. Holy. It is. incredible. I can't say enough about how kind of successful, I mean, I know you can define success in a lot of ways, but this is, it's so amazing that they can be able to make people feel and get people to a place where they don't have to, there doesn't have to be violence. There doesn't have to be, I'm assuming the police officers. You know, really enjoy that too, or really like, oh, I mean, that can you imagine a calm conversation or like a, a, a manageable. Well, and the reality is, is, you know, police departments, their, their officers go through a, you know, Columbia heights specifically. When I saw the Carol Evans story that was done on them, they do 40 hours of, of, uh, crisis response, so they, they, they kind of understand the nuts and bolts of this, but you're talking about people that are truly educated in, you know, crisis response. And I think that what was mentioned is that there were a hundred and four And only one of them required a, uh, a physical, like, uh, a transfer hold. Transfer hold. CC knows the terms. Yep. So it's, yeah, it's called a transport hold. And so that, that's a really great, uh, way or another illustration of how cool that program is. Um, I think what the. What the police officers say is they are happy because they get to learn more skills. So they get to learn. So when they're not, when they're not with Eileen and Aaron, who are our social workers there, they're able to, you know, be able to handle situations in a different, kinder, you know, more social worker kind of way. You know, they've been trained to be police officers and they're, they're trained to protect and they have all this amazing training. But, um, they didn't have as much maybe social worker type training because that's, so they've been able to learn skills and find that different gear that allows them to pull down the pressure of the minute. And what's really special about Canvas Health's program that I like to talk about is, uh, our social workers are connected to the Anoka County crisis line, which Canvas Health actually answers for the County of Anoka. So they have all this backing if they need to do a consult or if they need to do a referral into Canvas Health, which makes our program a little bit different from a lot of different police programs because, uh, sometimes police, uh, uh, departments will hire a social worker To come into their department that is not with an agency, but with with our program, they're with us and so they can do referrals. They can do consultations, all those kinds of things, which makes the program, I think, even stronger for the police department who has hired us to do that work. Fantastic. Yeah. In the spirit of kindness. I mean, to me, An example of the recognition of that kindness CanvasHealth received this T. Nightingale Community Policing Award. It's a community service reward reserved for, partner, stakeholder, or member of the public. I really was moved by, is it Dr. Ku Tao? Yes. Who is your CEO? Yes. Said it's an honor for Canvas Health and our embedded social worker team to accept the T. Nightingale Community Policing Award from the Columbia Heights Police Department. This partnership is a beautiful illustration of the good that can come when law enforcement And mental health professionals work together to make our community safer for everyone, even on their most difficult days. And to me, the compassion that comes with a program like this. Hats off to the Columbia Heights Police Department for having the foresight and the actual, you know, Go get them sort of attitude by actually putting a program in place and not just talking. There's a lot of there's a lot of Remarks during that time of defund the police and all that was like, you know, it's never gonna work You can you know, you can't put people in those positions like yeah hats off that they actually tried it and are proving that it's working Let's keep that going. 97 percent of the time it seems to be exactly what they're, they're hoping for, so. That's pretty incredible. Very cool. one other thing that I thought was kind of neat is, the suicide prevention programs that you have. As I was reading through that, I, I kept on seeing this QPR, what is QPR? Sounds like CPR, and QPR is question, Persuade and Refer, which is a program that I guess helps people, can you explain what QPR is? Yes, so with our Suicide Prevention Program, we're actually contracted with the state of Minnesota for 57 counties and the Dakota communities to do, um, to offer trainings and to promote the 988 number. Um, but one of those trainings 988 number? So the 988 number connects an individual to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. So it used to be an 800 number. Remember the 800 number? No. There was a rapper guy who sang a song about it. That is true. So well done. What was the guy's name, Logic or something like that? Oh yeah, I know Logic. Yeah. Yes. So they basically, the 9 88, that's okay. The reason they, they shortened it is just, just to shorten it for practical reasons. Yes. Just to make it easier to remember and to have in your phone and all the things. So that is one of the things that we do. And then with the training, uh, the QPR training is meant to train a lay person, so a non-mental health professional to help. Another individual if they feel like they are, um, they are suicidal or if they are really, really having a difficult time to make sure that they are getting the resources that they need. So they're asking questions, um, and then they're, they're persuading them to, to, you know, wait, um, until they get some more help, um, and then, um, refer potentially to, um, other, again, other resources. So really just kind of trying to equip people with the tools that they need if, should they find themselves in a situation like that. I've got a question for Julia. You mentioned you were a, uh, a non profit. How do you guys go about raising money, uh, to make sure everybody that's taking care of these kids is, uh, Is able to do their job at a high level as well. Well, I love that question because I do work at a non profit and I wear like 19 hats. One of my jobs is, uh, I direct all of our fundraising. So, um, about 50 percent of our funds, uh, on the philanthropic side come from grants. So we do, uh, we write grants to Twin Cities Foundations, um, and National Foundations, um, to give us money, primarily general ops money because they want to support mental health causes. And then we have. three events. We have a golf event at Delwood on July 22nd. We have a stamp out suicide event, which if I can talk about for just a second, it is The most incredible event. Uh, we, uh, a family in Wyoming, Minnesota, uh, the Haynes family, uh, lost their daughter, Alyssa, when she was 15 years old and they wanted to do something. So they created this event. Uh, it's a 5K at a park in Wyoming, Minnesota. They started out with a couple of families getting together and really the, being there to remember their loved, their loved one who they'd lost. Um, they did a 5k, they had some music, they had some activities, they did the event for about five years. It grew and grew as people found out about it. And after five years, they really wanted to give it to an organization that was able to do some mental health work and really put the funds that they were raising to really good work and making sure people were getting help. So they They gifted the entire event to Canvas Health, which was a really, really beautiful gift and a really big act of kindness, um, for them to do that. And we are now, uh, in, this will be the 13th year of the event, and we have well over a thousand people that come to the event. Uh, we have huge families, so they'll come with 30, 60 family members. They'll walk the event, they'll remember their loved one. And what's really special about it is they are able to connect with other families who have also lost someone. And it's, I mean, for, for a lot of families, it's just such an isolating thing to lose someone like that. And there's so much stigma around it still. Uh, and you know, people have lost young loved ones. They've lost older young ones. They are, you know, older, older folks. Um, and it's just so hard to, um, It's so hard to put your head around at any stage and so for them to be able to see other families and to kind of connect with other families and to have a day where they're getting together and just talking about their loved one, saying their name, you know, doing all of these special things at our event that, that, that help remember, uh, their loved one. So is it still, is it still in Wyoming? It is in Wyoming, Minnesota. So we fill this park, we fill, Parking lots full of cars. Um, it's on, uh, pardon me, August 17th and it's a Saturday morning and we start the event at nine. It's over by noon. Um, you know, it's, it's, but it is, it's still growing and people are okay coming to Wyoming and it's kind of nice. It's very, you know, I would, I would say we haven't made it super fancy. It's just, it's just Really about people getting together and and being there for each other and kind of showing up for each other So so you have a busy summer. You've got the the golf tournament, which are always fun to put together Yes, are you sold out yet for the golf tournament or not? Okay, I could put put me down. We'll do a sponsorship KG, can we get you to come out of retirement playing a six hour golf tournament at Delwood? It's so fun. Uh, uh, uh, uh. Hey, you can edit that out too, by the way. You can do all of that on your own. What day of the week is it? It's a Monday. Yeah, Monday should work. Yeah. You know, I've just got my Canterbury schedule and I think we're more, uh, racing on the Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday. Yeah. Uh, mode next summer, so that, that would likely work. So I'm going to buy a Kindness Chronicle foursome and do a sponsorship. Let's do it. We're going to get Steve out there. Best ball? I don't know. I can do that. It's a scramble. Yeah, I can do that. Or I can carry your bag, whatever I gotta do. We might just have you carry the bag. Sure. You could wash our balls. Get drinks. That's always Oh boy. Um. What's wrong with Hey, I had an idea. Yeah? KG, you're a movie guy. I am. We're all in this movie, guys. What if there was a character, like a huge, you know, uh, Hollywood star that, they created a character where he was a mental health professional, saving the day, figuring stuff out, you know, is there a movie that does that? Is there? Oh boy. I just mean all these crime, like these cop crime dramas and you know, cop crime action movies. Where are we going with this? I'm saying, are you producing? Are you? I'm bringing it to Kevin. When I think of mental health, and a movie with two superstars Uh, we're going through some serious mental health. Um, it would be Bradley Cooper and Jennifer Lawrence in Silver Linings Playbook. There you go. By the way, I hope everybody's seen it. If you haven't, run, don't walk to download that bad boy because it is brilliant. I'm talking about a, you know, like, Like a TV program. Swapping, yes. Like something that Dick Wolf would be the producer for. Swapping out the, the cops on the beat or the, you know, the detectives and turn it into like, Oh, so like a superhero. on the mental health side to go around and help, okay. Mental man. No, no. I love, you were explaining how this person, this mental health professional comes along with the police. Think of the cool stuff they could get into and cool stuff they could you could see some great moments where they're solving crimes And they're using this guy that would that would actually expand the use of it, too We should shut down this podcast get that some casting get some pretty know what he called that There's like a there's like a a script writing Screenplay app. Screenplay app that you can get done. Yeah. It needs to be done. We're gonna get right on that. By someone else. Yeah. No, it's a, but, you know, can you imagine if they make that a cool, that would be a cool character that, you know, the right person has to do it. It'd be a star, it'd be a star making role for somebody. Who, who would play you in that? No, I wouldn't, I'm not a part of it. I'm just producing. So somebody play Julia. So that would probably be like Reese Witherspoon or somebody. Super cute. As long as we can have proceeds going to Canvas Health. There you go. That's right. There you go. I love this. No, this is, uh, this is great. Julia, I'm grateful that I finally know how to pronounce your last name. Yeah, finally. I feel really good about that. Ten years later or whatever. KG, what do you got planned for the rest of the night? What's for dinner? Have you had dinner yet? Had dinner earlier. I had gone to the laundromat. Our, um, our dryer broke down last week. And we've got a new washer and dryer coming actually next Monday night. It gets delivered. I can't wait. Love doing laundry almost as much as I love Watching movies, but the laundromat's not bad. How do you feel about going to laundromat again? I got some work done. I had my headphones on I was listening to another I used to enjoy laundromat took me about an hour and 10 minutes trunk to see and and really went well for me but tonight, um, my better half is uh With my better half out in Lake, uh, Tahoe. Living the good life. So I'm at home with the dogs and we're gonna download a couple of shows. Uh, I'm actually at the, the Plymouth Grand Theater, uh, right now in the parking lot doing this podcast. I'm gonna grab a bag of corn and a soda. We're gonna have a little, uh, a little party on the couch with the, uh, the two dogs. So wait a second. You go and pick up popcorn at the movie theater to watch at home? Yeah, oh yeah, I do this about, uh, I'd say every other week. And I do it, you know, frequently, but I do it about twice a month. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you are the only person that I've ever known that Go ahead. Remember during COVID though, seniors had That's kind of where this whole thing started. And I do get looks because I'll walk in and I'll go right past the ticket counter, right away, like, Oh, I didn't buy a ticket. I better keep an eye on this guy. And I go right to the counter and I get my corn. And, and my soda, and then I walk back out, and then the kid's like, Oh, he's not actually seen a movie here. Um, I love it. I love the popcorn here, and I love the experience at home of being able to watch a couple movies. Now, I hope Christy doesn't end up listening to this, uh, podcast because I occasionally will spill popcorn, and I've got the two little human vacuum cleaners. Yeah. Perfect. Uh, those two morky dogs that clean up all the, the spilling. So there's no evidence. And, uh, we have a heck of a time. KG, at 7. 15 on Wednesday, I'm going to be coming to watch you perform at the, uh, the Capital Club. You're going to be interviewing the Minnesota Wild coach, John Hines. Yeah, John's a really good dude. 7. 15 though, are you looking forward to 7. 15? It's early. I'll, uh, I'll have to be up and at them early with, uh, you know, getting the dogs out, getting them fed, and getting them to St. Paul's. A couple of weeks ago for our season ticket holders, we had about 4, 500 show up at the arena for this and we just did a Q& A and it was really a fun thing because I think the fans get to know the coach a little bit, whether it's on the radio or TV when he does his press conferences before and after the games, but this is more And this is one where you guys in the audience can bring questions. So I had no idea how to be there. This makes me very, wait a second though. This is at the Capitol. I was told this was kind of an exclusive event. He's 4, 500. Well, that was the last one. This was far more exclusive. Yeah, we were going to let the 4, 500 people ask questions. We would have been there for eight hours. So I think it'll be really enjoyable. Uh, maybe we'll even dabble into some of the mental health things because it's on the forefront of everybody in management coaches. They all, you know, again, I think everybody right now is in a world where they understand that whatever business you're in and they're in the business of winning hockey games. If your employees are feeling better about themselves. You're going to have a better product, whatever you're in the business of doing. And so, um, bumping into Marcus Polino and those guys either night, it just reminded me of that. And no matter what walk of life you're in, this is so important. And I think for kids to get a head start on this and that brings it all the way back full circle to Julia and what they're doing makes them more comfortable, allows them to know about this and they can see. The impact it has on them as a young person that can only do good things down the road when they get to be adults and there can be some other hurdles to overcome. So, um, you know, I'm, I'm really excited we had this opportunity tonight and I hope our listeners are going to come out to that golf tournament on July the 22nd. Listen to this guy. He's a pro, man. Listen to him go. So, real quick, um, that chomping that you've been hearing this entire show is Steve Brown chewing on his gum. He is constantly, he is the guy that says, you know, I could hear somebody breathing in the background. Yeah, last week. Can we work that? That was Josh last week. He was breathing. I think I wasn't doing anything. Chomping your gum. Wait till you hear it. Oh, I'm so sorry, people. Yeah, so that was You can edit that, John. Just edit. You can't, there's not a chomping edit button. I thought of taking my gum out at my car and forgot. No you didn't. You're over there smacking your lips. I don't, I'm so sorry, Julia. Okay. I'm sorry. Julia, thank you for coming in. What do you got there? I have a special prize for you. Especially for, apologizing for chomping everyone's ears. Who's this a surprise for? This is for Julia. She's our guest. This is our tradition. Is it used gum? Here, I'll put it in there. No, it's ABC gum. It's a, it's some kind bars. That's our tradition when we have people, special guests in our studio. Oh, to get a kind bar, you go share those with people that you care about. You use some carbs, by the way. Thank you. The 90 calories with that much here. Yeah. Oh, John. Less honesty. Come on. Oh, right. Uh, I guess that is it for, uh, this week's edition of The Kindness Chronicles. And off we go. Goodbye.