Father's Day Special (Featuring Jack Schwietz)

John's dad, Jack joins us for a fun chat about fatherhood and favorite TV and Movie Dads.

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to the Kindness Chronicles, where we hope to inject the world with a dose of the Minnesota nice that it desperately needs. It is Father's Day week. Which is the week leading up to Father's Day, not the week after Father's Day. And as we did a Mother's Day special, we felt for, uh, Title IX purposes, we should do a Father's Day program as well. We gotta keep things fair, we gotta keep things, keep it equal, uh, but, but before KG, you know, last show, Episode 100. This is a episode 100. 2. Um. Your question is to Kevin Gord. My question is to Kevin Gord. Kevin, we were kinda tough on you in the last show. It was worth it, though. It was good fun. It was good fun. It was fun at your expense, which is always the best kind of fun. Some people that called and said you gotta take it easy on Kevin. Oh, come on. Yeah, he's soft, you know, we don't want him to feel too bad. That's not true at all. Not true. I know that you're not soft, but you're, the impression that people have. And then finally, I was at the Outback Steakhouse today and got the time. Oh, I love the Outback. I know. I went there with my friend Colonel Roger Letting. Uh huh. Colonel Roger Letting was a guest. Yeah. It is his 95th birthday this week. Wow. So I took the colonel out for a healthy lunch and, uh Did you guys have steak? Didn't have steak. We had a chicken dinner. We each had a Alice Brings Chicken No Mushrooms. Which is good. It's fantastic. And, uh, got talking to the waiter, a nice man named Jordan. Excellent server. And, uh, he has a friend who has podcasts and he overheard me and the colonel talking about the podcast. And he called his buddy and said, Hey, I'm at these guys that do this Kindness Chronicles podcast. And the guy that he was talking to said, Oh, Kevin Gorg, I love that guy. Of course. Of course. You know, Steve Brown, what's that? What's a John Schmitt? Oh, Kevin Gorg, I love that guy. There you go. Oh, that's hilarious. Goodness. Tell him the check's in the mail. Check's in the mail. And then you also stole one of our podcast guest ideas, and you apparently had her on wooden sticks this week. I'm not going to be mean to you because of the soft angle, the softness that you, uh, that you have, but Oh no, you fire away. Tell us about Taylor. She must have been so good. Yeah, it was fun to chat with her today and kind of get her whole story. You know, grew up in Lake City, Minnesota, which is a basketball town. Her mom and dad were great basketball players. Her brothers were basketball players. One of them, I think, plays for Iowa State. So for her to find her way to hockey and become such a superstar in the game, it's pretty remarkable when you consider where she grew up and, you know, her path. to where she is now. And, you know, just talked about the championship season that just was, and obviously her boyfriend came up, our, our good buddy, uh, Parker Fox, and, you know, kind of the, the two different podcasts. And I just asked her, I said, you know, with your personality, when you, you know, 10, 15 years down the road, when you're done playing, Would you be more apt to go into coaching or more apt to go into broadcasting because you feel like a natural and she mentioned that she had thought about it so that's kind of cool. Very cool. They're both good at broadcasting? Of course. Parker and her, they're both like talented in that way? Yeah, I mean they're both very outgoing. That's gregarious people for sure. Yeah, they're Division 1 athletes, they're stars. It's wild. And it's just, yeah, they've got the world. But it's not the wild, it's the, the women's. I know. And they don't have a, they don't have like a mascot, do they? Isn't it just Minnesota? Well, they're gonna, so we discussed the nickname, which comes out in August. And I have talked for a couple of weeks on my show that I really want them to be Purple Rain. I want them to be Minnesota Purple Rain. I want there to be a lot of cool tie ins with the Prince music and logos and stuff. I don't, I know she doesn't listen to my show, but I asked her point blank. I said, Hey, I've got a strong opinion, but I want to tell you what I think. I want to hear what you guys talk about, you know, amongst yourselves about what you want the nickname to be. And her and her teammates have already discussed this and they also like the sound of purple rain. So we're going to try to push for that on social media, see if we can get anything done. Any trademark challenges there? It's spelled different. It'd be rain, R E I G. It might be like the logo side of things. But if you, yeah, if you spell rain, you know, that way you What way, Kevin? R, what, what does that start with? E I G M. Oh, very good, yes. Yeah, I almost, I didn't want to spell, I almost spelled it wrong to you. That is a good idea. That's a great, that's a great concept. You probably will have conflicts with, uh, Prince's family of some sense. But, but, maybe not. You know, purple, you can't copyright purple. Purple is just a color. I mean, you could do cool stuff with it. Right. Yeah, that's very fun. It's Father's Day. We're, uh, we're all fathers. We all have or had fathers. We, you know, um, I would like to spend a little time talking about fatherhood, talking about some fathers that have influenced us. And later on in the program we're going to have a special guest, my favorite father. My father is going to be joining us. I'm going to ask him to keep his language clean, which could be an interesting challenge for, for Papa Jack. But, uh, first let's just, let's just talk a little bit about, uh, our dads. Steve, tell us about your dad. He passed away a few years back. My dad, Earl Brown was, uh, uh, he died in 2017. Um, he was, uh, a great, great guy. A wonderful guy from everybody has told me what a great guy. He was an Irishman. Um, very friendly. Um, liked talking to people, liked hanging around. I got a chance to work with him in his later years, um, after college. I worked for his roofing company for a while, and it was great to be able to work with him and see him with people, with other vendors and stuff. He was, he was, uh, he loved people. He loved talking to people, and he would have loved to be a guest in the podcast, actually. Well, he's with us in our hearts, that's for sure. No, he's a great guy. Really, uh, upbeat, fun guy, nothing ever too complicated. He never, nothing was too complicated and impatient. He was a carpenter. So patience, uh, galore. Oh man. One of the things that I have noticed about every member of the Brown family that I've met is everybody just seems so light. Everybody seems just very happy. It just seems like there is, a kindness, there's just a lightness to you. Um, does that apply to your siblings that I don't know? Uh, mostly yes. Mostly, um, my mom and dad are both pretty happy people. There's my mom's, I got some Italian. So the Italian, you know, uh, you know, there's, there's some Italian blood in there, so there's some kind of vigor and feistiness sometimes. And, um, she's about four foot 10, so you better be feisty. If you're, yeah, no, I, my, I got great brothers and sisters. Yeah. I've got two brothers and two sisters and lovely Shannon, Lisa, Tony, Dan, me and KG. How about Ken Gorg, the golf legend? Yeah, Kenny. Um, he's 84 now. He's slowing down a little bit, but I gotta tell you, I'm so happy that I had the chance to, uh, work for him at a young age. Like, you know, he was the golfer down at Faribault. Um, most of my early, well, I'd say most of my early life into my, you know, mid fifties. Um, he was a golf player. So I had a golf shop and so, yeah, it was at a young age, you know, making the trip down there with, with my dad. And, you know, early on, it was, you know, cleaning the golf carts and cleaning clubs and helping out around the shop, starting at age 12. And then it was a great summer job all the way through high school and college. And, you know, the work ethic I have, um, I got from him and nobody worked harder than my dad. Uh, The effort he put in, um, the way that he treated people, the way that he handled his business, uh, it was just, uh, it was a great KG. We're kind of losing you in and out of that relationship. And I ever got out of college where I screwed around the whole time, as you know, took probably longer than it needed to, as you also know, and just how much he cared about his family and still does like family. Um, and as much as he wanted to be with us when we were younger in the summers, he was working and he was working seven day week. There was no off day for my dad. So we got to see him a lot more in the winter. Never missed one of my hockey games all the way through junior hockey in Des Moines. He was always there. And then just the way he's been such an instrumental part of all eight of his grandkids, like he is the best grandpa. He loves those kids so damn much. And, uh, there's nothing he wouldn't do for them. So what a great example. And yeah, Father's Day is a big deal. I can't wait to see him. I'll work during the day at Canterbury, but I'll go over to their house for dinner and watch the end of the golf tournament with them, which he loves watching the golf on TV. So it'll be really fun. This brings to mind a Seinfeld episode, believe it or not. Wow. Already there. Yeah. Remember the number one dad t shirt. Remember the number one dad seat. Now you're saying that your dad is the best. I'm going to say that my dad is the best dad. Steve, the, the, the mental bombs. So many of the things that you said about your dad, I would say about mine, you know, the first thing, when I think of my dad, and I'm going to talk about it now. So I don't get all weepy when I'm on the phone talking to my dad about it. But the truth of the matter is, is, you know, there has never been a more loyal guy to his family that I know. Um, you know, it sounds like your dad was like that, Steve. It sounds like your dad was like that, Kevin. And, I don't think my dad ever missed any of the games that my grandchildren, that his grandchildren, I don't have grandchildren, that his grandchildren participated in, my dad has had, All kinds of different cancer, colon cancer, kidney cancer. He's got spinal stenosis. I mean, the guy is just physically. Life has been a little tough on him, but he's still like an energizer bunny. You know, he's going to get out there and he's going to, and he's going to mix it up. And, you know, we go to grad parties and he can hardly walk anymore, but damn it. I'm going to go to those grad parties and it's really fun to talk to. He gets a little salty sometimes when it comes to certain topics, but we'll see. Yeah. Well, we're going to try and keep him away from those particular topics. the other thing that my, my dad, he was always such a hard worker. And I remember once upon a time he was in the publishing business. And once upon a time, I was probably 10 or 11 years old. He was laid off from his job. And, uh, the printing business took a, took a nosedive. He got laid off from this job. And instead of sulking about it, he got a job working at Hyman Freightways, which was the home of Many Minnesota golden gopher hockey players. So my dad would unload trucks and load trucks with the likes of Rob McClanahan. You remember that name, Kevin? I'm not kidding you. Those guys, yeah. We'll have to talk to Bob, but we call him Bob. When we, when we have him on there. Yeah. Okay. he would work his tail off for the family. And he's also a guy who never. Ever put any pressure on me so much that it was almost like you talked about this. I have talked about it, but just to remind you, when I'm in law school, I was stressed out about grades and all that stuff. And you go, what are you worried about? You know, the guy that graduates last in the class gets the exact same diploma as the guy that graduates first. Quit worrying about it. I mean, and I, my response would be, I don't think you're supposed to say that. That's not exactly, you know, and of course my mom, her famous line, as she mentioned in during the mom's thing was, if at first you don't succeed, just give up, you know, find something else to do. Common denominator for all of us is I think that we've all been blessed with great families with great dads Yeah, and hopefully and I from what I've witnessed We've all done our best to be the best dads to our children as we could possibly be Yeah, I think the common denominator also is that that generation the the the perseverance and the hard work? Yeah, it's yes very vital to their survival and they're in their generation and And, uh, and yeah, I mean, my family, we're pretty hardworking, but we're much softer than I think, uh, our generation is much softer than the generation before it keeps going. But, um, I want to just say one note, you know, I played sports and stuff, but we weren't quite the sports family. Like you guys were, I wasn't dedicated to a sport like that. So my parents didn't really, they came and saw some games and stuff, but I'm telling you, you're in the band, man. I'm telling you, as soon as the music. Turned into like a real thing and even before it did my dad loaned me money for my first amp and he goes it was like it was like a 60 or something like that. I needed for a nice amp. He said that's not a very nice He goes, uh, hey, you know Steve Do you think you think you make enough money to pay for that amp at some point? Like I think I can you know 60 100 something like that Yeah and I Carried that amp around for many years and and you know use that amp for a long time and I made more than 60 With it'll tell you that much but He also, they used to come and see us play everywhere. And they, your mom still, my mom still does. They couldn't be more proud. So my dad was very encouraging with music. Always. Always. I think your mom mentioned that she has some hearing loss as a result of coming to your program. Yeah, we all have. So we're going to, uh, we're going to talk a little bit about our favorite TV dads and movie dads. But before we do that, is there one thing that's sort of unusual about your dad? That you learned from them something that like most people wouldn't say This is what I learned from it, you know, I learned from my dad to be a loyal dad and blah blah blah blah blah Cuz one of the first thing to come to mind for me and my dad my dad has always been a really good tipper Ah, like when we go out, you know, he's not a 15 to 20 percent guy He always gave significantly more and I realized that he did that especially in the places that he went too often because his tipping was It wasn't completely selfless. Like, he knew if he was a good tipper, he was gonna get taken very well care of. And he did. And as a result of that, I just have this crazy obligation to be, like, this over tipper. Really? When I go to Mexico, My friend Patrick Hawkins and I, we take out thousands of dollars in five dollar bills. And we're handing out five dollar bills for the people that smile at us. I mean, you just You're like Dumb and Dumber, uh It is. That's exactly what it's like. Yeah. And, and I just, you know, I credit my dad for, for recognizing that, uh, you know, tipping is, is, is a love language in many respects. And, uh, so, do you have something along those lines? I will, and I, so I, I'm Proud to say I gave my dad's eulogy and this was one part of that eulogy in that. My dad was a, uh, he loved connecting with people. He loved conversations. So this, this right here is part of what you got from he passed on to me too, because I love a cup of coffee with somebody I would rather, I would rather nowadays, I'd rather people want to get together for beers and go out and hang out. I would rather. I like if we do that, I like getting together the next morning and having coffee talking about the night or I would rather have coffee and sit and talk with people, you know, quietly together. I love it. And I think my dad was all about that cup of coffee and sit at the kitchen table. He would talk to us all night, tell stories about, you know, whatever. He just, he loved to talk. KG. Do you think that that response tells you a little bit about why we like being with Steve Brown? Yeah, he's great. Like, this is, you know, Taylor made. Yeah. Yeah, like Kevin and I are not going out guys. No, we're not. We would rather sit on the couch, put a Seinfeld episode in, make fun of it, laugh about it, and You know, we're not going to have a cup of coffee with you, but we'll crack open a diet Coke, right? KG. You're not a coffee drinker. I'm not diet Coke all the way for me. But where, where you could go with a conversation, where it could take you as opposed to watching a movie together, like you, you can, you can end up talking about. You know, get into really great zones. I love it. That's very cool. How about you, KG, other than your excellent golf game? No, my golf game sucks. It's depressing because I had every opportunity to be a lot better and I just wasn't, but my love of movies, uh, that starts with my dad at a young age, that was our thing and, you know, I had two sisters and they weren't as into the movies as I was, and so that was what my dad and I got to do it once a week. We'd spend. A night going to the movie theater. I'm I would get a little anxious because I would go see, you know, Tora, Tora, Tora, Jaws, uh, Lawrence of Arabia, movies that were kind of on the edge of maybe I was a little too young for these movies, but my dad would like tell my mom, it's going to be okay, you know, dah, dah, dah, dah. And to this day, I'm in love with the experience of going to the movie theater as of that time with my dad. Wow. you do have a love of movies. In fact, uh, What are you going to see tonight? I'm going to go see that new movie with Robert De Niro. It's a single dad who's a stand up comedian, and he's traveling all over the town with his artistic boy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I gotta, you know, I should have the name on the tip of the tongue because, um, I've been looking at this movie schedule all day. It's called Ezra. Yeah, Bobby, Bobby, uh, kind of all kind of all is in it too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. And it looks really good the fact that it's not getting more buzz and it has Bob De Niro makes me nervous But you know, if you're a movie guy, you got to see them all I know what you're gonna say right now, by the way. What? Daisy Ridley. Daisy Ridley. Yes. How did you know? Because. We listened to I'm gonna say the same thing to him. Go ahead. We both listened to, smartless. Smartless. And Daisy Ridley was talking about the fact that she was He didn't mention it was Daisy Ridley. He didn't, cause he didn't know it was Daisy Ridley. I talked to him today about it and I said, no, I didn't, she didn't look the same to me at all. Oh, okay. I am. Now I'm even more interested in seeing this movie, but it sounds great anyway, but after her, yeah, a woman in the sea or young woman in the sea. Oh, so amazingly good. Yeah. I got to see it. It was very funny. I was listening. I was probably listening to the podcast about the same time you were. And I thought, I bet you Steve's listening to this going. Oh my God! KG! Daisy Ridley was the one KG's ahead of the game. He's ahead of it. You know what? KG. I try, guys. I try. Okay, at this point, I'm going to call my dad. We're not going to talk about TV dads? No, we're going to talk about TV dads. We'll do it when my dad is on, because I'm sure he'll have a TV dad that he admires. Hey we've got, uh, a special guest. Yeah. We've been talking about dads. I would like to introduce you to my favorite dad, my dad, Jack Schweitz. Jack, hello. Hello there. How are you today? I'm pretty good, I'm pretty good. You know, I'd be nicer if I was younger, but I'm, I'm, I'm getting by. Well, that's terrific. I'm going to ask that you and mom don't bicker about anything while we're on the podcast. We're going to try and keep that for private times. Do you think we can make it? I'll leave the house then. There's a marriage blare. And there you have it. So dad, you've been married, what, 57 years now? Yeah, I think that's it. 57, yeah. And how many of them have been happy years? No, we're not going to do that. Just kidding. Oh, don't you dare. 56 and a half. At least 57 years. Come on, John. Okay. Yeah, smart man. Life is just a wonderful time. Very, very nice. So, Dad, we were just, uh, talking about, uh, some of our, uh, favorite memories and the things about our dads that, uh, that we admired the most. And, uh, I did mine before we had this conversation because I didn't want to get teary eyed, but, you know, in a nutshell, we talked about just how loyal, uh, all of our dads have been to their families and hardworking, and I, I mentioned that once upon a time, you worked, you'd gotten laid off at, from web publishing and went to work at Hyman Freightways, which I'll never forget. That's correct. Didn't you work with some Minnesota Golden Gopher hockey players? It was a number of hockey players who were there. Yeah. Uh, I can't remember all their names. One was Steve Griffin. I know. Oh yeah. Uh, he was always worried about, uh, about dropping something on his feet. Well, his feet are his life. Pretty important. It was very, uh, serious to him. Don't come near me with that forklift, you know, well, a forklift might hurt a hockey player's career. That is for sure. It wasn't Rob McClanahan. One of them. I don't remember that. I, I don't, I, I just remember Griffin. That, that's all. I mean Well, you remember Griffin because he was a Hill Murray guy. Yeah, that was it. That was it. That was it. No doubt. Well, I remember it was Rob McClanahan because he was kind of a big deal and I thought, geez, so why were these guys working for Hyman Freightways? Was the guy who owned Hyman Freightways a a gopher booster and Love the gophers. Paying him a little, a little more than he should back before. Oh yeah. NIL money before NIL. Yeah. Really, yeah. No doubt. So, dad, what advice would you give to, uh, to a new dad? Advice to a new dad? I think the thing that you have to do is just keep it. Let the kids do their thing, you know, within reason, you know, you don't want to, you don't want to encourage them to do something that's not good, but don't hold them back either, you know. I mentioned the fact that you always were a guy that said, what are you worried about your grades for? Which I just thought was a very interesting The diploma that hangs on your wall doesn't say your grade point average. Oh, that was another one of his famous lines. It's true. Nobody cares if you were the number one or the bottom in the class. It still prints it out. And I can attest to being the bottom of the class. Just about. Steve, you got some questions for my dad. I want to know. Can you share a time when you felt proud of your son, John, anything that he's done that you're like, what are your proudest moments? It'd be great for us to hear about that. Is this a two part show or can I just, wow, look at that, as many as you want. Let's just, I mean, my God, look at, look at what the guy's done. You know, I mean, he's, you know, he's pretty well, pretty well accomplished in his, in his career. And, you know, he went to law school and. Good. And he's taking care, care. Steve, Steve, this is not meant to be a, uh, I just wanted to know. Well, thank you, dad. I appreciate that. Got, he tells me all the time about that question. Okay. Go ahead. Kg. I'd like to know, you know, John, to me, he can take over a room and the entertainment that he can bring to a group of people, the happiness and the comedy that he can bring to a room is unlike anybody else in my world, honestly. He's the one person I know. Mr. Schweitzer legitimately could be a top 10 professional stand up comedian in the world. Wait, where are we going with this? This is a Father's Day show, not a John Schweitzer show. I want to know, from a dad's perspective, when you knew John has that kind of charisma and could control the room the way he does now. How, how little was he? Oh, he was pretty little. There's no doubt about that. No, he, he, uh, he, he was the center of attention at a lot of events and different things like that, you know? Oh, yes, yes. And, and, uh, and he liked the attention. You know, this is, this is going places I wasn't intending it. Okay. And don't you dare edit this out. I can, I can, I have another one that can kind of take it away from attention a little. This is more focused on dads. As a dad with your family, you have two kids, right? Um, what's your favorite family vacation memory? Oh boy. When we've been to Disney World and a number of places, but I think as far as favorites. When we went through Montana and the Beartooth Pass, and all that kind of stuff, remember that, John? You know, John was hanging out the window of the car. I mean, it was, it was bad. I mean, everybody was afraid on that trip. I mean, it was, it was crazy. So, let me explain. Let me explain. What happened? So we've, we rent, we rented a big, uh, SUV, a big Suburban for this trip. Okay. Fun. And we, we drove out to, you know, through Wyoming, Montana, all that stuff. And we went through the Beartooth Pass. You know what that is? Mm hmm. The Beartooth Pass, and it's a treacherous drive. Yeah. And I have a bit of an anxiety disorder. Oh. Oh, yeah, and dad Heights was was driving. Yeah, and I will happen to be in the passenger seat Which you know when you're driving on that side of the road you look over and it's down like 10, 000 feet Yes, and I think I ended up in the fetal position in the back seat And, uh, it wasn't my proudest moment. And I think he kept crying. Mommy. I didn't mean this to be about you job, but it turned out to be, yeah, I was 25, 26 years old. Um, yeah, it was not, it was not my best moment, but that was a fun, fun trip. Dad, can we tell them about. The, uh, the hotel room situation. Go ahead. You, you know it better than I do. So here's the great, and if my brother in law, Chad Jacoboski, were on this one, this is what, this is what he is a wonderful guy. This is what life, uh, is like with my mother. So, we're traveling, and I think my mom and dad paid for the entire trip. They paid for the rooms, they paid for everything. And we get to this one hotel, and they have just like a, a regular hotel room. But there's two beds in there, but it's a small kind of snugly room. And because there were four of us, the four kids, my wife and I, Becky and I, and Kate and Chad were in this other room and the other room was fabulous. And it had a beautiful view and it was everything. My mom comes over and sees our room and she said, well, this isn't going to work. And we switched rooms. What isn't that your recollection, dad? Well, I, I, I think it went something like that. I'm not exactly sure. You, you gotta remember your mother's sitting next to me here. I gotta be careful. Oh wait, careful. Wait. She swapped'cause she wanted the better room. She wanted the better room. Oh, I thought she was giving you the good room. No, she wanted the better room. Oh, pat the better room. Come on, tell the story. Right. That was a very fun vacation. And, you know, we did, we have taken a lot of, uh, great trips to Disney World with the grandchildren. And, uh, you know, once again, my mother is a big fan of, uh, Well, I'll tell you another story. And this is turning into my mother's story. I guess. But we went down there and we were going to stay at something called like the Disney Music something or other. And it was, it was kind of a low rent spot. Oh. But it was on the Disney property. Was it spelled properly? Because it might not have been Disney. It wasn't great. Was there a Z in there? And of course my parents were staying at the Polynesian. And would always go and have breakfast at the grand Floridian, which is the way my mother likes to roll. Nice. She likes nice things. She did come and saw where we were staying at. And she actually got us rooms at the Polynesian because she wasn't going to let her kiddos stay in a place like that. And it was fine. But it wasn't the Polynesian, you know, which is right on the monorail and all that other stuff. So my parents have been very generous. In fact, I think once upon a time, my, my dad may have paid for Becky's, um, engagement ring. I think I paid him back for that, but we're not going to get into that. Let's not talk about that now. Let's not talk about that. I don't know if I ever paid any of my student loans. I think my dad paid my student loans. Wow. Or my mom. We'll give mom credit for that. I've been very blessed to have a wonderful dad. More questions for my dad. I got another question for you, Jack. So this is in the realm of kindness and and that kind of stuff. What what do you think is the most important value? You hope you instilled in your kids I said you're very generous person you you've always you've always been there for us and You know, anything that we ever needed, you, you were able to take care of for us if we needed anything. And, and you, you know, like, uh, the other, the other day, uh, we were at a graduation party and my legs aren't what they used to be. Getting out of the place, you know? And, you know, I, I felt like people, kids, people were, little kids at this graduation party were looking at me, looking, thinking, look at the old drunk, he can't even walk to the house. you know, because I had Chad on one side, me and Pat on the other side of me holding me up, basically. But anyway, it was mission accomplished, kindness. You know, he, he does this thing called the 12 Days of Christmas. Where every day, during the Christmas season, he brings over a little gift. And sometimes it's a bigger gift than other times, but it's always nice, and it's every day for 12 days right before Christmas. Oh, cool! Yeah, it's, it's been something that's really quite fun, because my My mother has a lot of fun with the 12 days of Christmas. And, you know, what is it going to be this time? And then I think she calls her friends and tells them, tries to make them jealous. Some days it's like a bag of oranges, and another day it's like a puppy. What are we haven't gone puppy, but, uh Not puppy, but there's a lot of other stuff. No, like we get creative. Becky and I think about what it's going to be. That's a great idea. You know, what do you get your parents? My parents, One of the greatest blessings that my parents ever gave to my sister and me was when they moved from, you know, the, the suburban big house into the townhouse. They got rid of everything. I'm talking minimalists. In fact, if there's a book that's, a book that they don't need, they get rid of the book. I mean, it's really quite, uh, remarkable. Being in the estate planning business and dealing with, families that have lost their mom and dad. And you go to some of these houses. Yeah. And it's weeks worth of work. Yes. To, to uh oh yeah. To clean it out. So that's, that's very nice. So generosity is, is what you, you, what you're saying, Jack, is what you think. You've, you hope to have passed on to your kids because you're seeing that in your son. Both of the kids are really generous to me and Pat, you know. Well, and, and I think that they're very, we try, I mean, I, I don't even think of it as generosity. It's just how we were. Raised and you guys have always been super generous to us and I would like to switch gears and talk about our Favorite TV dads and favorite movie dads. All right, dad I'm gonna give you a chance to think about it But we're gonna start with you KG as you are our movie and TV guy. Yeah. Do you have a favorite TV dad? We're gonna start with you. So nobody steals your pick I have two words for the group. So run to me now! Frank Costanza will always be my very favorite TV dad. Oh, I love him so much. Okay. Let's see. He's a hothead. He's pretty, he's pretty, uh, has his own opinion. Pretty strong opinionated. Yes. Um, he's loud. Yes. Um, he's funny, but he had a couple of great contributions. The man's here. And, uh, the soft short. I mean, the soft short is, uh, it's a classic that'll live on forever for young men all over the world. Jerry Stiller. I agree. It's, it's actually crazy because he's the dad on Seinfeld and also the dad from King of Queens. Oh, that's right. Yes. And he's kind of, he's kind of a similar character. He's not quite as bombastic as he is on Seinfeld. He's kind of a cartoon character, but. But I, I, I agree with you. He's really fun. I get the feeling that for, for Jerry Stiller, it wasn't a lot of acting. No, no. I think that's just naturally who he is for him. He's so damn funny. He's pretty damn funny. I'm happy that you didn't bring up Cliff Huxtable. That's gone sideways. Oh, yeah, that's so good. Cliff Huxtable, if you go He was a popular dad, though, for sure, on TV. He was a popular dad, and, uh, it's just Kind of got tarnished a bit. Oh, kinda? The character got tarnished even. Yes. Well, as a re Just, just a tad. How about Archie Bunker? Archie Bunker, now Oh, man! Of course, that's the guy that you would go with. Archie Bunker. My dad loves him. There's a lot of similarity there. There's moments Between who? Between my father and Archie Bunker. Okay, alright. And what's really funny is Becky's dad who, yeah, uh, he had some very archy bunker qualities about him. I didn't understand. I could see that that show is as, as I got older and watched it, I understood how funny it was and the social, what it was really saying. It was really, oh yeah. Really smart show. It was very smart, great character. And, and Ted Bun. Ted, Ted Bundy. No. Sorry, uh, Al Bundy. Al Bundy, Ted Bundy also. Different, different. Different Bundy. Um, but Al Bundy is kind of a cartoon character version of Archie Bunker, right? Yeah. Do you have one? I got a bunch of them. Um, as far as my favorite, one of my favorites, Andy Taylor. Oh, from, uh, from the Andy Griffith show, Andy Griffith. Yeah. And that goes back to your era, dad. That's old. Yeah, that's a good show. Yeah. That show holds up. I was a big fan of Howard Cunningham. Yeah, Tom Bosley. Mr. C was a pretty good one. Um, from movies, I want to switch to movies. Do you, KG, do you have a movie dad that was your, uh, that was your favorite? I do, and it's the, it's the father son relationship. The dad doesn't play a huge role in this movie, but, John Kinsella, who is the father of Kevin Costner's character, Ray Kinsella, in Field of Dreams. That is a remarkably tight and beautiful relationship and it does bring me back, again, it all comes back to our own life experiences, but my dad would shoot tennis balls and Nerf balls on me in the basement when I was just a little guy and that was like, he'd come home from work exhausted and I'd drag him downstairs. I was, I was in love with being a goalie, right? That was my thing as a little kid. And he would go down there and shoot Nerf balls and tennis balls on me. So that movie certainly strikes a chord with me. That's cool. Yeah, that is very cool. And that, I mean, what a great. Oh, that scene. How about it? Kills me every single time. They made it choked up every time I watch it. It made our, uh, our movie episode list back in the day. Oh, absolutely. There's another one that I'll say is Atticus Finch. Oh. From To Kill a Mocky Bird? That's kinda highbrow. It is a little highbrow. That is highbrow. He's a good, good dad. Really good dad. How about Charles Ingalls from Little House on the Prairie? Oh yeah. Oh no, thank you. Pa Ingalls. Pa Ingalls, that was a damn good one. I couldn't stand that show and my sisters would watch that garbage over and over. I did not care for that show. Of course it was dad, Dad. I would imagine that you were a big fan of Ray Barone from Everyone Loves Raymond. Well that was a good show, yeah. Was the bald guy, was that Ray's dad or the, the mom's dad? Yeah, that was Ray's dad. That was Ray's dad. Ray's dad, yeah. Peter Boyle. Peter Boyle. Peter Boyle, yeah. Oh, there you go. Funny, funny, funny dad. Um, my favorite movie dad though, was the Will Smith character in The Pursuit of Happiness. Oh my god, was that, I was looking at that today, that was absolutely on my radar. What a fantastic, fantastic pick that is. What a powerful movie that was. That's another one for our listeners to have if you have time this weekend on Father's Day weekend. That, John, that is a really good pick. Well, thank you. How about a movie, uh, not a movie, but a TV dad? I'm gonna go with the Taylor name, Tim Taylor from Tool Time. Tim Taylor from Tool Time. A fun, a fun dad. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely a fun. How about, uh What about Bosley? He's a father figure on Charlie's Angels, right? Bosley was a father figure. Tom Bosley. No, just Bosley. Bosley, yeah, Bosley. Tom Bosley was Howard Cunningham. Right, right, right. The actor. Dad, how about you? Do you got any TV dads that come to mind? You know, the, the commissioner of police in New York City on Blue Blood. Oh God, you love that show. Tom Selleck? Tom Selleck? Magnum P. I. Huh? Tom Selleck? Yeah, well, yeah, yeah. No, I think that's a pretty good show, but I enjoy his character. I think he's pretty good. Um, one that most of you probably wouldn't think of, but I, for whatever reason, this movie gets me is in the movie Finding Nemo. Yes. Marlon from Finding Nemo. Albert Brooks. Is that Albert Brooks? He's scared because the mom died, so he's scared to let his kid out of his sight. It's a fantastic movie. We watched that. That was my daughter's movie as a little girl. Love, love, love that show. Um, I'm gonna go with the Taylor theme. I got another Taylor. Oh boy. Eric Taylor from Friday Night Lights. The coach, Coach Taylor. Oh yeah, Coach Taylor. Great dad. I'm embarrassed to say. I've never watched an episode. You would love it. I know you would love that for sure. There's a lot of episodes, but it's a great show. I, it's been a long time to watch it, but he came up on my list on my list that I was working on a dad. That's a funny dad is Johnny Rose from Schitt's Creek. Oh yeah. I love that guy. Well, yeah, yeah. He's one of my favorite S S S CTV guys. Yeah, he's pretty. Um, how about, uh, what's the guy's name with the beard on Family Ties? I liked, I always liked him. Oh yeah. Uh, the bearded guy. The bearded guy from Family Ties. He was good. Michael J. Fox, uh, Alex p Keaton's, uh, dad. Yes. The Keaton. Yeah. I liked that guy. Yeah. He was a good dad. He was a, like a nice warm blanket. Yeah. How about George Bailey from, it's a Wonderful Life. Oh boy. Oh, wow. That's a very, oh, there you go. There you go. You have to have your impression in there. Um, you want the moon? I'll get you the moon. I didn't watch the show much, but this made the list that I found, uh, Danny Tanner from, uh, from full house. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he's a great character. Bob Saget was that guy. Yeah. A late, great Bob Saget. Okay, go ahead. I got one. Yeah. Game of Thrones. Ned Stark. Oh, geez. Ned Stark. Yep, that's a good dad character. That is a good dad character. What do you think of all, I had to kind of race through all the dads because there's a lot of despicable characters in that show. say, Kevin? Terrible show. I just never got into it. I'm sorry. Maybe that's just because you're not as bright as the rest of us. It's all those hockey pucks you took from your dad. How good can the show be? It's really good. It's complicated and you got to watch it from the beginning. Yeah, I'm not into complicated. How about Too much work. How about You guys are talking about all these movies. I haven't seen any of those movies that you're talking about. I got one for you, Jack. I got a dad for you. How about Robert Young from Father Knows Best? There you go. Oh, now you're cooking. Now you're going back to this guy's era. I love that show. It was on reruns back when I was a little kid. How about Mike Brady from the Brady Bunch? There you go. Mike Brady was fantastic, right? Good luck with six kids, my god. Yeah, mixed family, six kids, lot of work. You know who else was a, who was a dad that I think was underrated was James Evans Jr. from Good times. Oh, yeah. He was wonderful. He was a badass. That was kid dynamite. Kid dynamite! Yes! For another one, another one for all of the flaws and dysfunctionality. Homer Simpson, he loves his kids. He's a good, he's, he's a mess, but he at the core of him, he's a good dad. It's a little bit like Phil Dumphy from my own family. Yeah. You know, kind of a doofus, but just a lovable doofus. Let me ask you this one. How about Darth Vader? What? No, hear, no, hear me out. Darth Vader, at the very end, he had a, uh, kind of a, uh, a rebirth. Don't you remember the very end of episode six? Is this Jedi then? This is Return of the Jedi. When my least favorite of the Star Wars movies. Yeah. He asked him to take his, take the helmet off. Yes. There's a tender moment there. It was a very tender moment. Doesn't mean he is a good dad though. He wasn't a great dad. Good fighter. But yet at the end, things kind of came together. Yeah, there's little moment, but I love a happy ending and that felt like a happy ending. Oh, it didn't seem happy. How about Clark Griswold? Oh yeah. Now there's a dad for you. Well, Clark Griswold. And how about that pool scene with Christie Brinkley? Oh no. I always thought of my dad as Clark Griswold in some respects. Like when, when you got the, uh, the big bonus and you put the pool in, in our backyard on Warbler Lane, that was very Clark Griswold of you pool. Well, that is what's great. You didn't enjoy that much, did you? I didn't. What? You didn't like it too much in that pool, did you? Oh, oh, brother. Not a bit. Not a bit. I think at the core though, Clark Griswold is a great dad and that's, he just wanted, you know, he wanted, uh, he wanted, he was a sentimental guy, he wanted his kids to have the, the upbringing, he kind of had it in all its dysfunctionality that it was, but he wanted to make the lights perfect, he wanted to have the meal perfect, and nothing worked out great, and that's what makes that movie so great. It's recapping it for you. That's yeah. Thank you. Thank you for for for going down that road we're surrounded by Legos here and, you know, there's a dad, uh, the Weasley dad from the Harry Potter, uh, Series is a fabulous character. I couldn't tell you what is his name was but The Weasley dad was a damn good dad. You see the red haired kids. Yeah. Okay. I can't remember Ron Weasley But I can't remember his dad. Okay, we've gone and gone far enough. Maybe it's time that we Be nice to your dad on Father's Day week, please. I think that we have, uh, exhausted the dad list from TV and from movies. Oh sure, there's a lot of good examples there. But I just want to finish by saying, dad, you have been a wonderful dad, a great role model, I couldn't have been luckier. My kids couldn't be luckier to have a grandpa like you. I just, uh, am, am grateful and hope to someday be to, uh, to my kids and grandkids, the dad that you've been to me and to mine, so thank you, dad. I love you. You know how I feel and, uh, blessed with, uh, four, uh, four grandsons that are one better than the next and a granddaughter that's just a wonderful young lady and, uh, you know, it's just all good. It really is. If I were to ask you to rank them, how would you rank them? No, I'm not going to do that. One thing that I'm missing lately, um, John and Chad and myself for years. On, Father's Day, we always played golf. Is that right, John? Remember that? That's correct. We would go to Como Park and play golf at Como. Yeah. Or, for whatever reason, it was always Como. I think it was because it was the only one that I could maybe hit, hit a drive long enough that I'm that you could take an iron into the, uh, in the rain. At any rate, I, I missed that. That was always fun. And then going down to McGovern's or whatever, you know, have a little Stuff like that, but you know, we've always had a lot of fun with you guys and and um, Just proud of it. Just happy to be uh your father. Thank you, dad I I do have to tell a quick Um, story about golfing at, uh, at Como Park with my dad and Chad, Chad has become a really good golfer. My brother in law hits the ball a ton. He's a very good golfer. He wasn't always that, that good. In fact, a round of golf would probably cost him 200 in balls back when we had played Como Park. But dad, do you remember the time you hit the ball? It hit the. tee marker on the ladies tee and came straight back at you. I do remember that. I do. And you caught the ball. I caught the ball. That's right. Like a trick shot. Like a trick shot. It was the greatest trick shot. Terrible drive. My dad is a lefty. It hit the lady's t box Like like little brick flew directly back at him and he caught it. You know what that's class He would have been a good goalie. There you go would have been a very good goalie. There you go, hand eye coordination. Chad will never let me give that one down. He always brings that one up all the time. And he brings it up not for the reflex, but for the terrible drive that it was. Oh no. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Well it's been a, uh, a pleasure talking to you dad. wish you guys a, uh, happy Father's Day. I'm back at you father's. Happy Father's Day, Jack. Happy Father's. Happy Father's Day, Jack. Happy Father's Day guys. And that's you guys too. Appreciate the call. Yep. You and mom, it's time for Wheel of Fortune, Alright dad. It's alright. Look at that. Love you dad. Off we go. Yeah, I love you guys. Thanks very much. Bye-Bye. Bye bye.