The Kindness Chronicles

Gentle Touch Cleaning w/ Jaylen Jones

John Schwietz

We visit with Mahtomedi High School Student, Jaylen Jones, aspiring entrepreneur  with a big heart. Learn more about his unique idea of connecting high school students with seniors in need of cleaning services and companionship.

We're on a mission from God. That's right. That's right. Welcome to the Kindness Chronicles, where once again, we hope to inject the world with a dose of the Minnesota kindness that it desperately needs. Got Steve Brown in the studio. Hey, what's up? We gotta talk to you about your big weekend. Big weekend. Hey. Hello everybody. Rockstar weekend. We got the, uh, the intern Jeff, who's been having a lot of fun with, the soundboard. He's now an engineer. He's not just the, uh, intern anymore. He's Jeff, the engineer. Jeff the engineer. Very nice. Yeah. Good to be here. Huh? Do you working on the railroad? All the live long day. He's got a hat. Uh, we have a guest we'll introduce here shortly. Yeah. In studio. Yeah. Uh, but we, uh, he gets to see all Behind the Magic KG is unable to join us because his, uh, special friend is making him go to a dinner tonight. Unavoidable. He said he'd much rather be here and she doesn't listen to the podcast, so we should be fine. Yeah. But Steve, let's start with you. Yeah. You're out in Hutchinson. Yeah. Big fun. Far West West, far West T Trick. We haven't played an outside event for a long time. We're mostly playing in a dark bar, so it was super fun. The people were awesome. It was a really organized event. The old school fans came outta the woodwork. Really? But did you do your And my, my family, like my, my kids were there, all their friends were there, so they came in with Johnny Clue fan club tshirt stuff. Oh, sweet. So they all had t-shirts. I love it. So they came in right when we started and like, it was kinda like, you know, it was very funny that they were there, you know, singing and dancing, all the songs. But what I was gonna say was, it was a challenge. We had one hour to do, really get my band's, you know, whole show done in an hour, get'em up and get people going. They're all sitting in lounge chairs. Oh no. You know, and, uh, lounge chairs all over the place. It's, oh boy. Like a thousand people in, you know, they're just. You know, looked like they're just, oh, they all looked elderly, but it was younger people's, like, you know, 50 something year old people. Well, they came to drink some beer and sit and Right. So I was like, oh, this is gonna be tough. And we kind of got going and I got'em clapping along and I, we did the drink toast. We have all these things that we do to get people going. And people were, as soon as I got'em clapping along. Okay, that's good. We got'em going. We fired through our set list and it was super fun and we had a great time. And we, uh, uh, so we, we sold a bunch of t-shirts and some stickers and people were really kind of into it. We signed autographs after Oh wow. Fun. Like a real, like a real band. And then I got, I got a, a survey after the fact. They, they wanted to take a survey with all the people that were there and all the bands. And they showed the graphic of, uh, Martin Zeller and like these other bands. And they have a picture of me in there. It's a horrible picture of me. Oh, no, I can't imagine that. I'll show it. I just, I'm in action. I look a little, you know, I'm kind of squished up and I'll show you the picture, but I'm like, that's what they Well, that's Steve. That's how you look. I know, it's okay. I mean, that's, how far is Hutchinson? It's a hour and a half west of, uh, the Twin Cities. They're made from my house, which is, you know, and you stayed overnight. I camped out in the, in the feet, in the woods. In a, in the park. What a terrible idea. Ah, it was great. But are you an outdoorsman? My, my family, my boy is, oh yeah. Both my boys are, they love it. And, uh, all their friends, they're so super fun. We had three tents, but I slept on the ground. I slept on a little mattress. Oh God. Super uncomfortable. It was the worst part about it. Otherwise, everything else is fantastic and for that reason. I'm out. Well, John, here's the thing. Can you mention the, my Z guys are age. Gotta get up. You gotta get up and use the restroom middle of the night. Right. But you can be right outside. That's true. Well, yes, but you still, you know, I go to, I went to sleep in my pants and my, you know, I'm, I'm have to get up and get out of the tent. I don't have shoes. Like I'm not gonna put my big boots on. So I'd like to walk out in the grass and like it, it's just hanging outside the, the, the door, the campsite's full of people and it's silent. Nobody's gonna see it's dark out, whatever. Oh, it was super great. We had a great weekend. Oh, that's fantastic. And, uh, people loved seeing us outside. Was it hot? No, it was a beautiful day. Okay, so no humidity? No. No humidity and there's nothing like a campfire breakfast. What did you make your family? Uh, I didn't make it. My son made us all coffee and we had granola bars. Okay. They, they made steak and eggs. Ooh. We left, but they made some food. Wow. Fun with their whole gang. Huh? They camp out a lot. Yeah. My kids, my kids are big campers actually. Huh. If I had more gear, I'd be way into it. It was just not that comfortable. I'd be into the gear. I'd like to have the gear. Yeah, you'd have to have good stuff. Yeah. That's what makes it better. So when I used to take my kids to Cub Scout camp. Yeah. I don't know if we've ever talked about this, but. I would always rent a hotel very near the camp, like, yeah. Did you ever go to Felipo or, or Cannon River Scout reservation? Yes. So I would go into Canon Falls and I would stay at the, uh, the hotel in Cannon Falls. You were really rough in it. And you'd come back in the morning absolutely chipper like you were out And if I didn't like what the meal looked like, I'd go to the pizza place for lunch. Yeah. I wasn't a very good scouter. You're not a, you're a, you're an endorse I'm an avid endorsement, yeah. Yes, avid endorsement. Jeff, what did you do this weekend? Boy. Um. You put me on this spot. This is a long story because you, he was working, I'm working on engineering stuff and then you put it on this, um, what did I do? I worked on my yard. I'm, I've got a big, I've, I've pulled out a bunch of trees and filling dirt in with it. Yeah. And um. You know, coaching my daughter who's in Boston, uh, we recently moved her out there, so that's how, you know she's enjoying it. But on Sunday nights we get Is she going to school out there? No, she's two years past school. Okay. And she's got a job out there doing, what is she doing? She works at a company called EF Tours. EF is education first and she is helping high schoolers. Uh. Plan, international travel trips. Oh, very cool. Very fun. It is. She's excited about it. So we've got a, we've got a guest that's patiently waiting, wondering what have I gotten myself into here? His middle aged guy's talking, but I gotta tell you about this guy. I remember I was doing this, volunteer delio for the DECA program. Was it the DECA program?. I got caught off guard and wrote a check to this program and I'm a big maite guy as everybody knows. And, uh, you're Mr. Maite, I think. Yeah. And this young man came up to me, fabulous. Had a hair, very unforgettable, super gregarious. I was thinking that he was graduating senior. Turns out he was only a junior, so he is got a whole nother year of high school. reached out to me on LinkedIn. And, I immediately remembered who this kid was. I'm sorry I'm calling you a kid, but, he's a young man. He's got better facial hair than I do too, but that's a whole nother situation. But he, recently won,, a recognition for a program that he put together and is going to continue to put together. And the, lad has entrepreneurial spirit to burn. He's got great pipes for, uh, for a podcast, that's for sure. Yeah. Welcome to the Kindness Chronicles Jalen Jones. Woo. Great to have you. Happy to be here. Jalen, first and foremost, tell us, uh, a little bit about how you made your way to Maida.'cause you're, are you an Oakdale resident? Yes. I'm, I'm from, originally from Oakdale. So, uh, I made my way to Mamita my 10th grade year. So. Um, throughout ninth grade I was going to North St. Paul, um, taking some business classes there, just learning more about business. Um, and then I decided to make the switch to to, yeah, to. Very good. Well, welcome. We're happy you're here. There's no doubt. I appreciate it. Yeah. Um, and you have a twin brother? Yes, I do. I have a twin brother, Jayden. He's, he's at Madam with me. He's playing football, so, uh, we're kind of on two different ends of the spectrum, but. But you're on the spectrum. Just like Jeff There. I said it. Oh boy. Oh boy. Get a sample in there. So does your, does your, is he an identical twin? Yeah, we're identical. So do you guys ever have fun with that? Uh, everyone always asks that, but that's, I'm very cliche that way. I think, uh, just considering the nature of our, our interests, I'm really into business and that stuff, the classes that I take are. A lot different than his, so I don't know if he would ever, and he is taking weightlifting, those kind of classes. Okay. Stuff like that. So I don't know if he would ever really switch classes, but it is fun to Okay. Pretend like, does he have, does he have the same great hair that you have? Yeah, he does actually. We both have, um, uh, big, uh, curly hair. We actually both had our, our curly hair. I was waiting for him. To cut it first. Okay. Uh, before I did so I could just see what it looked like. But, um, yeah. So I, uh, was, uh, brought to my attention that you, were interviewed on the CBS, news program., You and another student that had, it was St. Thomas student, so there you go. I'm a Tommy, so she must be fantastic. Hmm. Um, but tell us about this program and, uh, how you came up with such a great idea. Yeah. So, uh, I honestly can't remember who, um, kind of made me aware of this award or this competition that was going on. Yeah. And what's it called? Uh, youth Sparks. Um. It was Youth Sparks like innovative idea competition. Okay. So through that I, or that competition, I was just kind of thinking of some different ideas that I could potentially submit to the, uh, competition. And I've done a internship with, his name is Israel Tolu. He is the CEO of uh, blue Nest Connect, and that's another kind of d, senior related business. Okay. That focuses on teaching. Um. Digital literacy skills. Oh, okay. And kind of teaching workshops with that. And they are building a software, I believe, to kind of make the process of using a device or using technology simpler for seniors. So Cool. Um, I kind of joined that really early on when he was starting off, so I got a lot of good experience just learning from him and, uh, kind of learning the. The industry for seniors, just knowing the different problems that they do kind of struggle with and that we may not be able to see. So that's kind of where I learned my, where I became aware of the problems that seniors are facing. Absolutely. Hmm. Uh, and then from there, I just, I worked with him for probably four or five months, just Okay. Helping out with some marketing related things initially, and then, uh, kind of helping him find some, some different partnerships for initially starting out and then for the, uh, the. The, the competition, I was just thinking of some different ideas that I could potentially submit. And, uh, working with my grandma a lot often too. I, I often seen that she, she would struggle with, with cleaning around the house. Yeah. Or, um, kind of get into some specific spots just, just because of the health issues she's having with her back or just stuff that happens when you start to get older. So You bet. Absolutely. Um, with those two things in mind, I, I kind of came up with an idea. Um. Which I initially called Jones Cleaning and Companionship. Um, and then I then switched that over and rebranded to Caring Touch Cleaning. Um, and that business really just focused on kind of getting mainly teenagers, um, to go to these seniors homes and, and provide these companionship services. Okay. But also provide these cleaning services because you do cease cleaning services around. Yep. Um, even Minnesota or the us. Not many cleaning services are specifically tailored to seniors or, um, and if they are, they're not offering that companionship service that, um, a lot of seniors are needing nowadays. Absolutely. So, um, kind of brought all those things together and, uh, created a business out of it. Just knowing the needs that, uh, seniors are facing now, um, and kind of use it as a reciprocal benefit for not only teens by giving them kind of employment opportunities and having an opportunity to, um. Kind of get in the community and help seniors out. Um, but also help the, the children of seniors by kind of taking something off their plate and, uh, allowing them to kind of continue to, to work or do the other things that, um, kind of consume a lot of our lives now. But, um, I really wanted to use it as a, an opportunity to help, help a lot. Well, for starters, I have to first acknowledge, if you were to close your eyes. He sounds like a 30 5-year-old guy. I know. The very clear thinking ideas, articulate great ideas. And so you got that going for you. Good looking guy. He's, he's like a businessman already. Yeah. He sounds like a business guy. Yeah. But the idea that you've come up with, I gotta tell you, as the son of, aging parents and we all, if we're lucky enough to have our parents still around, they all will, have these challenges. It is such a brilliant idea because I think what it does is it is it impresses upon young people for starters that there's something just beautiful about that intergenerational connectedness. One of the things that we discovered during COVID, and as everybody knows I'm in the senior care business, so this is really important to me, is that loneliness was probably the most difficult part of the whole COVID situation. Yeah. The fact that the state wouldn't allow us to have. Visitors come and visit seniors. Yeah. Uh, that's rough. People that were, that were dying from COVID couldn't have visitors. It was just awful. What we did do is we went out and bought a whole bunch of iPads and we trained all of these seniors how to use technology to connect with their loved ones, and ultimately it turned out really great because they had the chance to connect with them in a much more meaningful way. But it's much different when it's in person. Yeah. And I remember when I was, uh, when I was younger, I had a couple of, uh, great aunts and uncles that my, uh, grandma and grandpa encouraged me to go and cut their grass and do these different things with them. And I have one really fun story as it relates to that. My grandma Kate had a brother named Bob Garvey and Bob Garvey was single guy. Uh, he had a a, a son, but his wife had passed away and he lived in the Mounds Park area, uh, mounds Park area, St. Paul. And I really like this guy. I just got a kick out of him. I think he worked for years at like the Hams Brewery or something. He always had chewing tobacco in. Mm-hmm. And one day, what are those guys? He asked me if I wanted to have a dip. Oh boy. And I thought, this is the day I am gonna do it. You were in high school? Went over I was in high school, yeah. Probably like ninth grade. Yeah. I went over and I, he was chewing Copenhagen, so I took a thing at Copenhagen, put it in my lower lip, didn't know what I was doing. Immediately got a buzz from it. Yeah. Immediately got a buzz. And then I looked over and he took the dip outta his mouth and put it back in the can. What? I was chewing already been chewed. A, B, C dip. A B, C, Copenhagen. So I called it a B, c, D. Already been chewed dip. What? Yeah, I just, you know, I wanted to barf anyways from the Copenhagen. Right. But that just put me over the edge. He was the guy. Like he'd have these, he had these permanent stains down the side of his cheeks where the, oh no, it was, but you know what? A lovely guy really, Hey, he was sharing with you. He wanted me to experience that. I really, I really bonded with him. Yeah. But the point of that story is, I mean, he loved the fact that, you know, yeah. I mean he, I think he may have offered me a beer and I'm like, you know, I don't think we're gonna do that quite yet. We're not going that far. Yeah. We're not gonna go, um. Yeah, I think it's a, it's a brilliant idea. I think so too. I have some questions. Go ahead. I bet you do. I was just wondering, you had mentioned Deca and I looked it up, is that Distributive Education Clubs of America? Yes, that's, yeah, that stands for, alright. And so I'd love to hear about how this factors into all that, but go ahead. It's like business club, isn't it? Yeah, that's what it, exactly what it is. Um, DECA, so it's. It's kind of hard to explain without actually being able to see it, but, um, we do a lot of kind of deca or business related things around the school. So we'll do like local popup shops with, uh, kinda local businesses in the school and kind of do events, um, school-wide, but we compete also against kids across the, um, the world really. Um, so, so business ideas. Um, so there's so many different competitions you could do. So you could do like, um, a startup business plan. So you're kind of creating a business. You could do franchise business plan. Um, a lot of'em are role plays. Um, so you kind of sit down with a judge or two and oh yeah, you've been the go through the gauntlet that you've been, you'll take a role, take on a role as like a director of marketing or director of operat man operations, and they'll kind of give you a story and something that you have to figure out and solve and, and that's kind of how you, that compete. That's cool in that, uh, category. There's a lot of different, um, um, kind of events that you can do for Deca, but, um, I met John through Deca though, um, because we were hosting, um, I'm the president of DECA at Madami, so we do a lot of, um. Prep for competitions and uh, that's a lot what kind of falls on me and the advisor. So, um, we were planning this kind of prep day where we had local business professionals come in. Business professionals. Yes, that's right. What were you doing there? Business. I was doing business. We wanted, uh, some local business professionals to give us some feedback and kind of have some. Relevant, uh, feedback. So, were there donuts available? There weren't donuts, but remind me again, what, what's your role on Deca? You're the, the president, the presidency. Oh, good for you. Okay. I have a question for you. Go ahead. Um, how do you, how do you envision this? I'm, I'm curious, um, this idea, I think it's a great idea as well. Kids sign up for it. Um, you maybe have a team, but like, how does the actual. Uh, visit, go. Did they arrive and go. Hey, Gloria. Oh. I'm blah, blah, blah, I'm here to help. Um, what would you do? Do they, is there a phase where they, they talk a little bit? Well, for starters, can we, can we go back? I know how that works. I want you're, you're kinda getting ahead again, I dunno what the, what division is. I'm wondering how do you get clients? How do you get the employees? Yes. Can we start there? Let's start with, could we even go back? Oh, no. And did did you do some product development, for example, with your grandma Shonda, is it? Mm. And so did you. Have this idea and start talking. How do you know that already? Well, chat GPT Really? This guy is a, a creeper. I do a little bit of research before. Well, what's her birthday? I don't have that. I can look it up. What's his brother's middle name? No, I don't want to freak him out too badly. But, but did you Yeah. Did you, did you start with your grandma and kind of socialize the idea and get some ideas and then I'd love to Yeah. Learn about the time, the life cycle of how it all came about. Yeah, sure. So, um. Kind of initially when I was, I, when I was doing my internship for Blueness Connect, just kind of learning about the, uh, the senior space, um, kind of learning about the problems that they have and, um, kind of the, the things that they struggle with. I definitely wanted some feedback from my grandma, especially as, um, I was kind of helping the, the, the founder with this startup. Um, we were kind of in the early stages, so we wanted to kind of get as much information as possible and, um, kind of share the, share the idea so. Initially I started just getting feedback from her learning about, um, kind of the different things that she's struggling with, um, but also just through experience, um, helping her, um, kind of being at her house. So most days she would need help with cleaning stuff or, um, just kind of moving things around the house Yeah. Or anything to do with that. And. Honestly, um, my grandma is single, so she, there would be days, I'm sure she's lonely and, uh, she, especially when, uh, COVID was happening, um, I'm sure that was the case for a lot of seniors. You bet. So, uh, does she live near you? She does live near me now. She, uh, moved away. Okay. Kind of a little farther away, I think like 20, 25 minutes away. Um, and that was during COVID, and then she moved back to, um, kind of my neighborhood. Okay. So she lives closer by now. Mm-hmm. Um, but yeah, I definitely did have conversations with her, just trying to build the idea and, um, kind of getting her, her feedback as far as what, what approach we should take with it and, um, kind of what things we should add to it that, um, seniors would really appreciate. So I did that. And then also we, I did a, a. Interview with NPR Radio with my grandma as well. So that was before I went on. Cool. Wow. That was before I went on WCCO. I did a interview. Oh, good for you. We saw that. That was great. You did a great job. Yeah, that was really fun. I was extremely nervous, but I had a really fun time. You seemed nervous, but you got everything communicated perfectly. Yeah, I was practicing that. I didn't think he seemed nervous. I seem, I, you just seem like you really, I know you're a professional though. You know, you, you wanted to get all this information out and you did. I could tell that you, yeah, you had to get a lot out in a short amount of time too. Yeah. So let's go back to this. Is the business up and running or is this still in, ideation phase right now? Yeah, it's still honestly in ideation phase where,'cause I just needed help honestly, getting it started. I started it when I, well, the idea initially came when I was pretty young. So you're still pretty young. Yeah. Still, still, still pretty young. But, uh, you, you don't sound like it, but you're a young man. Um, so kind of having those ideas and trying to. Put them together. And I think when I had all of this media recognition and kind of having all these people trying to get my, uh, attention and yeah, wanting to know more, I think it, it overwhelmed me a little bit. Of course. And I think also I tried to, um, launch it way too fast. And I think that that, and. Hurt me a little bit when I initially was just trying to start because I was kind of going back and trying to fix things and trying to, oh, well I guess I need that too, and I guess I'm gonna need that too. So, yeah, you don't have the really any experience with it yet. You're just trying to gather a great idea. Okay, so Here's my first piece of advice. Oh, we're already starting. Well, I just, I'm gonna go right into it because the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Mm-hmm. And there's a lot of great ideas that nobody executes on. I get the sense from talking to you for 15 minutes, that you're a guy that's gonna get shit done. Yeah. There I said it. Yeah. Swear. Swear word. I said swear word. We're not supposed to swear on this. I'm not editing that out. So, anyway. The first thing is, is you should go to the University of St. Thomas. They have the Schultz School of, entrepreneurship. We'll get you a full scholarship to go there. Um, the idea is a brilliant idea it's funny'cause Jeff and I immediately thought of the same thing. You know, the guys that started two, uh, two men in a truck. Yeah. They're everywhere. Yeah. That has become this huge franchise and not only does your idea,, check a box when it comes to a need that people have in terms of, cleaning the house, like something tangible that you can see, but there's also that emotional connection with people and, those relationships lean on that. Those are relationships that could go on for many, many years. Um, I was with a couple today and, they didn't have any children. They're in their nineties. What do those people do in terms of, who's going to be the trustee of my trust or who's going to be the executor of my estate? And not that that's the motivation for doing these things, but that's really important for these people. Those people, especially those that don't have children. Or they don't have children that are living near them or grandchildren,, this is like the grandchild that you never had kind of an opportunity. And let's face it, they're targeted by fraudsters that wanna go after'em. So to have a trusted person to help them, which yeah, which is, you know, is also an important consideration. I mean, you gotta make sure that the people that you're vetting really, that you're bringing on board are, uh, are people of high integrity because, there's some liability possibilities there. Well, you know, the Seinfeld where they were over there getting, uh, record records from the, uh, old people. Thank you very much. Um, okay. Now, now, now to my question. I wanna hear your vision for, how do you, how does one experience go? Like if you send people to the house, how does that work? Like, just walk me through what you're thinking and what, how it would work. Sure. So honestly, I was kind of struggling with the idea of coming or not coming up with, uh, deciding whether. Would it be one person on, on the job? Would it be two people on the job? Mm-hmm. So. What I'm thinking is having one person go, I did initially create a website for the business and I had all the, um, kind of booking information on there. So that's where it kind of start. Yeah. And something that I was really trying to focus on with, um, kind of my target market and while I was. Really trying to spec, uh, target seniors and trying to help senior citizens. I, I didn't necessarily want the cost to fall on seniors, or I didn't really want them to have to, um, kind of reach out and, and have to go access it. Um, themselves just because I know that, uh, seniors aren't as Yeah. As digitally literate. So that's savvy. Yeah. Like that. Um, so what I was really trying to do is, is target the, the children of seniors and, and trying to, um, promote it that way. So, um, people that are a little bit more tech savvy and, um, have the money to do it, but also, um, I'm not gonna feel bad for, for taking their money for, or for also trying to help as well. So, yeah. Um. The, the, the process starts online. So the booking process and then going there, I was thinking maybe doing like workshops or something like that where I was speaking briefly about, uh, doing digital liter, digital literacy stuff for my past internships. So I have a little bit of kind of experience, um, in that field and just knowing what, what seniors are really struggling with for uhhuh, um, digitally. Um, so going in there, teaching classes like that, um, and being with the seniors and kind of teaching them, uh, what's what. Scam looks like and mm-hmm. Okay. And going in there and just kind of helping them learn the different things. But also, and what, what I love about that is that idea gives you something for that visitor to, uh, to engage with them. Yeah. Let's start with this and kind help. Something to start with. Something to start with. You know, in addition to the cleaning. Hey, while I'm here, would you be interested in this or even have a, you know, a checklist of things that, you know, you might be interested in. Here's what you should do. I'm just gonna get right after it. Yeah. Okay. Ideas from John. I think that this lends itself, he's the professional sincerely to be a nonprofit organization. I think what you do is you, uh, you can work with different senior care facilities, physician groups that, uh, work with geriatric patients. Some people don't have the wherewithal to, to financially pay for a cleaning service. Or a companion service. That sounds kind of weird. You know? Companion service does. That's, that's a, it's a whole different direction's, a different angle of the business. I apologize for that. We'll stay on track. I apologize. How old are you? 17. We'll, stay on track for, pretend I didn't say that, but you know, I'm sorry. I just, where, why did my, why did I say that? Because you're a weirdo. Okay. I am a weirdo. The point is I think that people would be interested in supporting something like that because, the idea of a person that's lonely, that's, that home needs some, some attention. I think it just lends itself to, to fundraising. And I think that's something that I recognized too early on that I feel like. If I were to target the, the senior homes or the kind of the providers or the, the caregivers to seniors, um, and kind of offer it as a, an amenity or some sort of, um, kind of service that they offer underneath them, but, you know, it's through me. So, um, the cost wouldn't fall on seniors, but the, the senior home they stay at, or, um, like I mentioned earlier I, it sounds kind of broad. Um, when I visit my mom, I. She doesn't live that far away from me, but there's always something that I could help her with. Her phone chores, like, yeah, well, no, like her phone or setting or, so my wife does the same thing for her mom. She always has to reset something and you know, go, here we go. Just helping understand, you know, going through digital issues, that they're having real simple stuff. The other thing. She needs something lifted, moved from down the garage, outside, whatever. Something real simple. Light bulbs. Yeah, light bulbs, anything like that. Um, sometimes some cleaning. But my mom's pretty active. She's, by the way, she wanted me to say hi to you guys. Oh, great. She's on the way over here. So Nice. But, so there's that. And then there's, just sit down, have a cup of coffee and talk with her. So when I think about, uh, you know, what you're talking about. I feel like there's a big range of things. And so this isn't medical, this is not, you're not, people aren't going there. Uh, yeah. You're not qualified for any kind of medical attention. You're not, you're not visiting angels. So I'm not gonna like count pills and do all anything medical, but you're gonna basically sit down with them. Uh, v visit, maybe help with some digital stuff, play cards, maybe move some stuff around. Uh, but are you cleaning? Are you vacuuming? Are you like sorting anything? Yeah, I think that, um, so there's cleaning as well? Yeah, absolutely. Some light cleaning. I think that that's kind of what it, I think that, um, the companionship was more of the kind of secondary, the, the twist and the, um Got it. Got it. The competitive edge, um, to the cleaning. So I think that, um, while there's some senior business out or businesses out there that do focus on kind of senior home cleaning or yeah, senior care or I think I even did see a couple companionship services or senior companionship services for, um, while I was, uh, uh, starting up initially. But, um. Okay. Yeah, so, so it's cleaning with companionship connected to it. That's, that's what the name instills as well, so I got it. I'm, I'm just trying to put my head on. Yeah. What, and, and, uh, my, my dad's a veteran, um, very much in this situation. And, um, luckily the VA has been really great in Minnesota and they've, um. Contracted with a place called 10 Air Home Care Services. And so I wonder if there's a partnership angle here where, um, for example, a nurse kind of comes in and oversees everything and has even had to help set up. You know, his, his pills, for example. Mm-hmm. And things like that as a person, just memory care kinds of things. Um, but then we started talking, her name's Jen. She's the head nurse and she's awesome and builds rapport and, uh, just has already established some great trust and a relationship and there's a PT person that comes in and helps. But then we were starting to talk about my mom who needs help. Caregiver, um, assistance where she needs to just be able to go and have a mental day off mental care day or go do practice, get Exactly. Go grocery shopping. And so they're, apparently there's services where the, these people will just sit with them and provide the companionship. And it's, uh, the same person. It's just a different kind of care. And I wonder if that could be something that you plug into like a 10 Air Home Care services or even the va where, so that, here's a question for you. Do you have a memorable moment or story of connection between a teen and a senior and a senior that really affirmed the mission of what you're trying to do? Is something that really stood out? Good question. Chat, GPT, you're such a cheater over there. Honestly, what, what really stuck out to me and what was most memorable to me during the whole process of initially starting it off and kind of getting a lot of recognition for it initially, um, was just seeing the, the comments and just having the people that I. Coming up to me in person, um, expressing their kind of, their need for it, uh, whether it was them or if it was their, their parents. Um, and I don't think I recognized the, the overwhelming need that seniors were, um, having for just companionship or, or cleaning in general. Hmm. Um, until I started getting posted and having articles written about me. And, um, that's when, when people were just, it was overwhelming in the amount of, I mean, hundreds of. Of people were, um, comping saying like, wow, this is awesome. Like I need this So affirming this in California. So wow, there's just love from everywhere. And I think that that was something that was super memorable for me is, um, knowing that there was hundreds of people that, um, are, are looking forward to and excited about, um, kind of what I was building. And essentially there's, there's an element of adult daycare there, but it's not branded as adult daycare. I think adult daycare is something that. Many seniors would just go, it's a little, yeah, yeah. To me it's very demeaning. Yes. Okay, so, so I get that too. I get a sense that this is a strong need and seniors welcome this and they would probably love this. My question for you is you're a 17-year-old man. What evidence do you have that young people are gonna wanna do this? Because the goal is to try to get young people to do this, right? Like this isn't for like 30-year-old, uh, um right. Caregiver professionals. This is, you're trying to create a little bit of bond and stuff. Is it because. Like, do you have friends that would be interested in doing this? Yeah. What's, where's, where's the, um, where's the interest level do you think, based on your age in, uh, any kids wants to drop their cell phone and go help out, old, older folks help to help you that scale? Do you think that's a real thing? That's, I mean, that's a great question and I think that that's something that was just more gonna be discovered through experience. But when I was. Starting off, I was reaching out to my friends and just trying to find out, um, what, whether people would be interested in kind of joining in and, um, doing what, um, doing what we do with seniors. Um, and honestly I feel like I don't remember not having, um, people willing to help out. And um, and I think also. When you kind of surround yourself with Exactly. With people. I'm, I'm in omi, so Yeah. There's a lot of kids there that are just, they're great. Yeah. I mean, they, they, it's kinda one of those when, you know, you know, I mean, well, yes. And that, that will, that will play into the kind of people you find and believe me, I'm, I'm not, I'm not asking that to, like you were one of those people. Oh yeah. Oh, I would've loved it. Totally. I would've too. I worked in a nursing home for Great Safe. I still wanna go and play music for, you know. Play, you are my sunshine for, for seniors, and they'll love it. Um, but I love the idea. So that's why I'm, I'm hoping that that's where you're finding good people. I love that idea of it, but I have some reservations and, and the stereotype of, you know, teenagers is like, they're gonna wanna play video games. Well, and again, I think that, I hope I'm wrong. I think that it's of the, the vetting process. Yeah. So when you're ready to launch this thing for real, like launch, launch it. You know, between now and then, I'd love to continue to, to, to stay connected with you and if there's anything that we can do to help you sort of, you know, formulate what this thing looks like. There are social workers when, when my dad was in the hospital, for example. Um, if I hadn't been a person that lived in town, I would've been invited to participate in a care conference over the phone. And if I'm a social worker and I'm aware of a, a, a, a program that you've got, um, you know, not only does it provide the cleaning services, but you know, this young person's gonna come over and, you know, play cards with you every once in a while after they get done, you know, cleaning your bathroom in your kitchen. I just think that the. Yeah, there are so many different ways, you know, dots that you can connect to make this thing a go. You gotta make sure that whatever name you decide to f to go with, that you trademark, and that takes a little bit of work. Make sure that you, uh, you know, I'm gonna say get the 5 0 1 C3, uh, nonprofit status because I do think that people would support this financially, including the people that you're caring for. You know, if they found value in what you're doing, you know, that might be something that they would leave some money in their will, for example, to, to this organization that helped me. I got all kinds of ideas. If you could get this off the ground. Um. And you probably you. I'm not doubting you will, you will get this off the ground. Can you imagine the connections you're gonna make with people? Oh my God. Can you imagine what you might be putting forth in someone's career? A young person who does this totally. Now they're like, oh, I like this. They could, I mean, they could be starting an entire career in caregiving or something like that. Yeah. I'm interested in geriatric nursing. I'm interested in elder law. No kidding. Be a doctor. I mean, there's all kinds of different opportunities. Dude. He's onto it. And the other thing is, is when those people are trying to get into law school or get into medical school, or get into nursing school, to have this as one of their resume fillers, bingo. Critically important. You know what? It shows their character. It shows their character. We've been on for how long? About 39 minutes, but Oh my God. Than Native Earth. I was just, I was just gonna say, uh, resume filler. Maybe we could come up with a more euphemistic, uh, sounding. Well, why don't you work on that between now and next week. It is what it is. What do you got there? Okay, on that note, thank you Jalen. Jalen, thank you very much. Good to meet you. Good luck to you. Good luck Jalen. Steve, it was great to meet you. And off we go. Keep playing that tune.