Ep. 197 Kindness Comebacks

A playoff preview for the Minnesota Wild with KG followed by game show host, Steve Brown, and his Kindness comebacks.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:19

Welcome to the kindness graphical square. Once again, we hope to inject the world with the dose of the Minnesota Kindness that desperately needs. Back in the basement studio, we got Jeff back there working the board. Hi, Jeff. How are you? Fantastic. My hips are a little messed up, but we'll talk about that later. We got KG. KG is back. He's on the phone. We're not uh we're not we don't have a wild game tonight. How are you, KG?

SPEAKER_02 0:46

I'm really good. We're kind of bridging the gap between the regular season and the postseason. And of course, we only do round one. No matter how far the team goes, our broadcast schedule ends here at the end of the month. Oh. So the the non-travel schedule for me will mean more time with you guys, probably more time in Matamiri.

SPEAKER_04 1:05

So it's uh it's all fantastic. Look at that. Awesome. Yeah, because I think we're going to a twins game, some like May, May something.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

Yeah, we are getting those twins, by the way. Hey, how about the uh best truck in the American League? Who saw that coming? Not me.

SPEAKER_04 1:21

Mm-mm. No, that's uh that is big fun. But you know what? It's been a while since we've had you on. Lots been happening. Let's talk about the Minnesota Wild, because that seems to be where you're uh spending most of your time these days. How uh how are you feeling about the team? How are you feeling about the uh the playoffs?

SPEAKER_02 1:42

I'm really excited. Uh I gotta be honest. Uh 20th year, as we've talked about a couple different times here throughout the season on our show. Uh, this is by far and away the the best team that that I've covered. It's not even close. And we were talking yesterday as we were getting ready for the final regular season game. This will be the first time in probably six or seven years we've gone in the playoffs with all of our star players. You know, the last couple of years, one year we're missing act, one year we're missing Terrell, one year we didn't have Brody or Spurgeon. They're fully healthy right now.

SPEAKER_04 2:17

God, nothing.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

I know it's a tough matchup. Yeah, exactly. But uh, I feel really good about it. I know Dallas is an outstanding team, uh, but I I really think this team is capable of making a significant run.

SPEAKER_04 2:29

You know, they they they talk about you gotta have you gotta have a couple of guys on your team, quote unquote guys, and they got like five or six top sixty, top seventy-five players in the NHL. I I noticed that uh Boldy and Carill are both in the top ten for goal scoring this year for the entire NHL, which is super fun. I think Kirill ended up with 47.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

Um and Boldy not far behind. I think he had 44 or 45, and they were I think five different teams in the league out of 32 had had two guys that posted 40 or more goals. And you know, you think about the Stanley Cup, and you know, for for people that have watched hockey, I've I've done it for a long time. I go back to the late 70s, early 80s with the Islanders, and then of course and the Oilers. But when you think about teams that win the Cup, they have stars. They the the cup seems to find superstar players, and so when you have a Map Oldy, when you have a Krill Caprice, when you have a Quin Hughes, when you have a Brock Faber, they're the type of guys that end up lifting that trophy. And so for a long time, you know, early on they had Marion Gavrick, then they had, you know, Parisi was kind of a fringe superstar, Suter was a really good player, but this is a completely different level of stardom. And so it makes you feel like this window in time, this next three, four, or five years, this is when it can happen. And for Minnesota hockey fans of my oak, close to 60 years old, going back to the North Star days, um, we're due. Bring it on. We're due a cup run. Let's do this.

SPEAKER_04 4:08

You know, it's funny is uh I have become so intrigued that I'm embarrassed to say that I went and I looked at uh the uh the the status of the contracts for the Minnesota Wild. And man, did they sign Boldy to a hell of a deal?

SPEAKER_01 4:25

How about that one?

SPEAKER_04 4:26

I mean, that was a good one. Faber is locked up until like 2020 or 2033.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

I mean, he has ahead of both those guys.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

That is a lifetime contract there. Are they gonna be able to keep Hughes?

SPEAKER_02 4:41

I think they are. And you know, getting to know Quinn a little bit this year, um, I think he really likes it here, and it's really cool. We talked about it last night on the on the game broadcast side. There was a poll done in the last couple of weeks by the Athletic, and it polled all these NHL players about which NHL team um takes the best care of their players. And Minnesota ended up being the number one on that list. They have a brand new facility that was built in the last five years over at Trier Rank, where they have all their practices, and the workout facility, um, the kitchen with the gourmet chefs available when they get to the rank, they they just text in their order, it's waiting for them before practice. And I will tell you this um the the food on the plains, the hotels that this team stays at, it's gone to a completely different level here in the last year. Bill Guerin needs permission from Craig Leopold to do this, but they have gone all in. And the one thing Billy Guerrett told Craig Leopold is if we're gonna bring in guys like Quinn Hughes, if we're gonna go out and get the best free agents, if we want to keep the guys we have, um, we don't have Florida weather, we don't have, you know, LA or New York and that kind of cool vibe, but what we do have is the potential to take the best care of our players. And that word gets around, and I do think that's gonna play a significant role uh in obviously it's a good team, and Quinn wants to win, but that also there's a layer there where this team goes above and beyond, and I do think that matters.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

Yeah, regardless of how much money you're making, you do like to be pampered, you know. You do like to have, I'm sorry, did you say something, Jeff? No, it was uh there was a little sound. Yeah, that was interesting. Wow. So let's talk about some of the new guys and what we think of them. Tell us about Nick Felino. He seems like a hell of a guy.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

It's funny. Um, you get to know Marcus, and you're like, oh my god, this guy's the coolest guy. He's the he's he's funny. Um, everybody loves this guy. It was like the brother must be a dork. And then he comes in and he's the same damn guy. Like, um, he's found his role, he's found his niche. Last night he assisted on Hunter Hayes' first NHL goal, and he gave him this big giant bear hug. And then I'm interviewing Hunter after the game, and and he comes by and he's trying to distract him. And he's just a fun-loving dude. He's a hard-working guy. He takes nothing for granted. Um, he knows his role. He knows he's gonna be probably a third or fourth line guy. He's gonna be out there killing penalties. Um, but he is kind of just like Marcus. He's beloved, and he's kind of a glue guy. Um, he he's one of those guys that that likes to take care of his teammates. So a couple weeks ago, Boldy was in a scoring slump, and we were the while we're in Detroit, and he was so frustrated that he couldn't score, like in four or five games. He took a bunch of the guys to dinner and picked up the tab and said, I know I'm gonna score them all now, and he did. So Nick Fellino hadn't scored a goal yet with the wild on this last road trip, took a bunch of the guys out to dinner, picked up the tab, and of course, comes back home and scores a goal. And so that that's kind of the the way he he rolls. He's a really he's a glue guy. To explain to him, he's a guy that kind of brings people together.

SPEAKER_04 7:58

Excellent. Michael Dempsey has entered the studio. Hello, Michael. Hey guys, we got an early start, we got KG on the horn with us. We're talking a little Minnesota Wild. Tell me about that big dude, McCarron. He looks like a monster.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Well, the nickname is Big Sexy, so that's a gas be smile. He's he's uh, and the best part is for our viewers, he's 6667, and then you throw skates on him. And so the first time I interviewed him, oh boy, well, you know, my poor camera guy, you know, because I have a guy with a camera on his shoulder, kind of right there where I do the interviews. And so, you know, he's focused on McCarron as he's answering my second or third question, and we're going to commercial break. And so he answers the question. I wish him good luck. He walks away, and I'm like, nope, keep going down here, down a little lower. So yeah, so we had a little fun at my expense there. But um, he's uh he's a beast. This guy is physical, he can fight. We've seen him drop the gloves a couple different times, sticking up for his teammates. He's fantastic on the penalty kill. So the face-off dob, which has been a real problem for Minnesota, kind of an Achilles heel, he's great in that area. And I think between him and Fellino, those are significant upgrades on the penalty kill. Of course, when you look at Dallas and what this series is gonna present, the last two times the Wilde played the stars in the playoffs, the Dallas power play has killed Minnesota. And so those moves were made, I think, specifically to give the Wilde a shot in the arm there. And I think that that that's the role where he's gonna, I think, pay the most dividends.

SPEAKER_04 9:35

And they're getting like league minimum, they're not making any money. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

I what's more amazing is the fact that you look this up.

SPEAKER_04 9:43

Oh God, I'm in it, man. Uh like so good. Tell me about Bobby Brink. Isn't he from Minnetonka?

SPEAKER_02 9:52

He's a Tonka kid. Um, he went and played at Denver University, so you know he's a pretty sharp kid. Uh, won a couple national championships because that's what the Denver Pioneers do, it feels like every year. Apparently. He he's, you know, I'll be honest on Bobby Brink. I I like the upside he has because he's got offensive skill. He's a guy that you can if you have a Johansson injury or you have an injury in the top six where you need a guy that can score goals, he's a guy you can pop in there. Um, he hasn't caught fire yet. He hasn't um, I don't think yet played to his absolute ceiling. He's he's had moments, Johnny, but he hasn't been. I mean, I would say McCarry and Felima have made more uh of an impact in their month, month and a half with the team than Brink has. He's had pockets of really good play, and that's why you've seen him kind of shuffled in and out of the lineup. I don't think he's an absolute lock to be in there uh when game one comes around Saturday, but if the wild are gonna make a run. They're a legit contender, they end up winning a series or two and get to a conference file, or you know, if it's a dream scenario and they get to the cup, all these guys are gonna play a role because you're gonna have injuries. It's just the way it is.

SPEAKER_05 11:03

Yeah, I I I think it's exciting, KG, to watch uh, you know, what what um what the wild are doing, and it's gonna be a tough matchup, there's no doubt about it. I'm sure you guys already talked about goaltending. No, we haven't. Oh my because that that to me is you know, that's the big sort of toss-up going in through the end of the season. It wasn't like there was a a goalkeeper that was the standout absolutely locked down, you know, this is your number one ride or die. It seemed to me like the goaltending was really up and down for both um uh uh of uh of the netminders. I don't know what that and then the McCarran thing, uh the mustache, right? He he I mean that for a guy that size, I mean, that mustache, I mean that's what's distracting on the dot. I mean, he's gonna throw guys off. Oh my god, that stash. That I mean, when he when I saw him for the first time, I just thought, what I mean, is he in what was it 1927? You know, the the the the the series of stash is amazing. But about the goaltending, what do you think about that, KG?

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Well, I'll tell you what, if uh if like me, you follow social media on the hockey side, um, this town's been on fire because I think up to a couple weeks ago, everybody assumed uh that that Philip Gustafson would be the guy that gets game one.

SPEAKER_05 12:28

Right.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

And you made a great point. Both guys have had really good years, they've got the combined best save percentage uh in the National Hockey League. They're probably the best one-two tandem. The problem a lot of run into here now is in the last two weeks of the season, yes, for Volstead's been unbelievably hot, and Gustafson has struggled. I think in six of his last seven starts, he gave up four or more goals. And the the the real kicker is Gustinson's got playoff experience and and Volstead does not. So he's played on a big stage and he's done well. He's played not only big minutes, but he's played really well in the playoffs. And so now you've got this decision where everybody's like, they've gotta play Wally. They they can't play Gus. And I think, and I could be wrong, but if I'm reading the T-Leaves and listening to the general manager and listening to the coach, I think they're still gonna give Gus game one. And I don't know if I necessarily agree, but it is in my decision to make. And I think that playoff experience does matter, no question. I think both guys, if the Wild are gonna win this series, both guys are gonna play. I do know that. Um, and I think it'll be super interesting because game in a series it's likely gonna go six or seven, probably seven. You can't just throw a game away and say, well, he's the veteran, he deserves to play, and then you go out and get beat 5-1. Yeah. So it's not just about, you know, keeping him happy. You've got a whole locker room full of players that are trusting you as a coaching staff and a general manager to give them the best chance to win. They deserve that. And the way Wally played last night, I I don't know how you don't start them. So I think it's it's a big, big elephant in the room. I think everything else is great. They're rested, they're healthy, they can beat Dallas, they played great against them all year, they split the season series, but this goalie thing is a thing. And I think that's the biggest story between now and Saturday.

SPEAKER_04 14:24

So two two things along those lines. Have you considered going into Heinze's office and saying, Heinzey KG here, former goalie, state champion goalie. Yeah, you know, you raised you raised a trophy here in this, well, not exactly this uh stadium, but in one that was once here. Uh uh here's my suggestion. And number two, the question is, and this is somewhat rhetorical. Um, you know how they have the emergency third goaltender?

SPEAKER_02 14:53

Don't even go there. Have they ever considered it?

SPEAKER_04 14:57

And and what will what would that look like in this day and age? How do you feel you would fare So let's say there's 40 shots on you, how many are you gonna shut down?

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Harkens back to that movie uh the Vench Warmers or No, no. There's one with Keanu Reeves where uh the the replacements is the replacements, yes.

SPEAKER_05 15:17

These are these NHL shots or these B we beats in the.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

These are NHL shots. They're not gonna lead me into phase 40 because they're gonna yank me after I let it end up. There's not an emergency fourth guy unless they put like the best news Yeah, but the the best news is I work in the tunnel when I when I work home games, and there are those D fibs, those uh those claps right down there. They might come in handy.

SPEAKER_05 15:43

The Kachunka chunks.

SPEAKER_04 15:45

Yeah, so they do have an emergency third goaltender that's there.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Guess who he is? I think John Beauprey's kid. What? Connor Beaupre. Connor Beaupre is the e bug goalie at Grand Casino Arena. Has been for a few years. In fact, when the wild come off a road trip, and if they get in super late at night and some of the younger guys want to skate the next day, Marc Andre Forey's in one net and Connor Beaupray is in the other net. He he gets pucks all the time. He's at practice at least two, three times a week. No kidding. He is the guy. And Connor's probably 35, 40 years old, and he's pretty he's he's a pretty good goalie. Um his dad was a legend. So yeah, the old North Star, it's his kid.

SPEAKER_04 16:27

Is Jill's Malash? Is he still around?

SPEAKER_02 16:30

He is still around, but he's not around here. Okay. I think he still lives uh out in Pittsburgh. He um he was one of their goalie coaches for years with the Penguins, and that was a part of their scouting staff, so I think he's out east.

SPEAKER_04 16:42

How about Bernie Perront? Is he still alive? Oh my goodness. No. Oh my goodness. He died.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

He did. He died about six months ago, and it was a really sad deal because he had just been honored by the Flyers. And, you know, Bernie Perrant takes you back to the 70s, the Broad Street Bullies. I mean, he's one of the great sports legends in that town. So that was a tough one for Philly fans.

SPEAKER_04 17:05

And I saw Ken Dryden passed away a while ago. I mean, we're all the good ones.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

Oh my gosh. You know, we lost three. It always happens in three. We lost three during the season. Ed Jockman.

SPEAKER_04 17:15

Oh, yeah, from the Rangers, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

And Bernie Perron, three legendary goalies all passed away. And, you know, I remember vividly, guys, having those posters on my wall. Now, as I got a little older, when I was a kid, it was Ken Dryden, it was Bernie Perron, it was Billy Smith. Then all of a sudden it was Cheryl Teagues, and that was Bo Derrick, and uh, you know the rest.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

Yeah. So did they look in a goalie outfit? I'm just yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:39

So here's a question when Ken Dryden and Bernie passed away, and you know, things go in threes, were you checking your pulse a little more often? Make sure everything, you know, we didn't want three legends, you know.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

Yeah, that's funny. That is funny. No, it would be it'd be more like if there were sideline reporters dropping. And being that I'm kind of a dinosaur, yeah, because as I look around, you might be number one with a bullet. Exactly. I might be the favorite. You know, last night I'm I'm working the game, and Anaheim has this, I mean, she is an awesome human being. Um, her name is Allie, and she's from Montreal. She's worked for Vegas, and now she works for Anaheim. So we always connect before and after the game. So after the game, she's come over to give me a hug. I'm waiting to interview Nick Fellino. And I mean, if I'm a three, she's a 12 on a one to ten scale. And Marcus Fellino comes out, he gives me this look as I'm hugging her. You know, I kind of wink it. I try to wink at him, and then he comes by her and he goes, Hey, I like your shoes. I go, You weren't looking at her goddamn shoes.

SPEAKER_06 18:42

No, it was great.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

It was fat, and she did have really good shoes. So I just wanted to make sure that out.

SPEAKER_04 18:51

You weren't going Eric's Walwell on the deal. No. You don't want to be. Do you even know who that is, KG?

SPEAKER_02 18:58

No, but I'm sure it was a bad situation.

SPEAKER_04 19:01

Oh God, he's uh he's got a corrupt oil right now. He's yeah, it's not working out for him. Steve Brown has entered the conversation. Welcome to the Kyrgyz Chronicles. There you go. So uh KG, one last Minnesota Wild question that I have for you, and it's related to the new lad they got named Viking. What's Viking like?

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Oh, this guy.

SPEAKER_04 19:22

His name is Viking, for God's sake.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

He is another six foot six guy. Thanks, thanks for that. Um, and he's he's a fun-loving kid. He's just out of college, played at Connecticut. Um, great dude. I mean, great dude. And you know, we were watching him kind of for the first time uh from the concourse level last night. I was watching the first period with Wes Walls. This kid can skate for a guy that's 6'6, 220 pounds, he can really skate. Now he's a little rough around the edges. He's still a player that just got done playing college hockey. But um, yeah, I'm very encouraged. What a nice pickup. I I think that kid's got a lot of potential. So did he play at Yale? He played at Connecticut. UConn? Yeah. I didn't even know they had a hockey team. What? Yeah, they've been they've been a team for a few years, and and they play out in hockey east, and now you know they were an NCAA tournament team. It was a kind of a Cinderella story. It was their first trip to the tournament. They did get beat once they got to the tournament, but they had a good year. They beat Boston College. I think they tied Boston University. They had a good year, and uh, this kid can play. Um, he's he's gonna be a guy that's gonna start in Iowa next year, develop his skills, but uh earlier turns, he's played a couple games. He looks good.

SPEAKER_04 20:41

That's fun. Yeah, I it it feels like the future is bright. It feels bright. You think they'll bring McCarn and Felino and these guys that they have that are all uh you know uh UDAs.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

I think they want to.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

But I I I do think it a lot will depend on what happens here in the next uh weeks, months, whatever it's gonna take. I think a lot will depend on how they play it. Months is what we're looking for. Um, you know, I I just think of St. Paul, if we can get to like middle of May, late May, even early June if they make a run to the cup. You guys know from being a part of back when the twins made those World Series runs, this town is craving something like that. The cargo shorts, the jerseys, the bars with the rooftop. I mean, it St. Paul would be it would be so much fun. So we can dream as we get set for game one. It's a long way off, but I think this team's got the potential.

SPEAKER_04 21:38

Did you say cargo shorts?

SPEAKER_01 21:40

People still wear them, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_05 21:42

Well, no people I want to be around.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Not since now St. Paul.

SPEAKER_05 21:48

He was gonna say Jordan. He was gonna wear Jords.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

I'm telling you, cargo shorts, people that come with to the rank wearing hockey jerseys still wear them.

SPEAKER_04 21:57

I come back. And they're sweaters. They're hockey sweaters, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:02

Thank you. Thank you for correcting me.

SPEAKER_04 22:04

Any uh any other things regarding the wild that you feel like you need to get off your chest? You probably you probably had enough, huh?

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Well, no, I think it's great that that we're doing the show on the front end of the class because the hope is that we're gonna do a bunch of shows as they make this run and we can kind of live vicariously through what these guys are doing. The only thing I'll say about the Kindness Chronicles in the Wild is just getting to know this group specifically. What a great bunch of dudes. I think I've told you guys this multiple times. Like Marcus and Nick Fellino have that charity they run, uh, the Fellino Faceoff that raises money through the V Foundation to fight cancer. That's the kind of guys that we've got in this locker room. They are charitable, they give their time. Watching them last night, um, after the game, it's 10:30, 11 o'clock at night, and there are these kids down with a Zamboni. You know, Kirill, Faber, all the star players are out there taking pictures, signing autographs. Like, this it's a really good bunch of guys. Like, if you were around them and you're like, oh, these are the kind of guys I'd want my kids to see and look up to because they're the right kind of I you hate to use the term role model, but they're good human beings.

SPEAKER_04 23:15

What kind of cars do they drive? Do you ever walk through the parking lot to see what kind of cars they don't drive a lot of Toyota Corolla, so I don't get mine mixed out of the world.

SPEAKER_06 23:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

No, they're they're really nice cars. They are, they're a lot of trucks. A lot of the guys drive those uh those those big pickup trucks that are all swooped up, you know. KG Hartman's got that. He's got that filed in because he's a hunter guy too.

SPEAKER_05 23:40

Oh. Yeah. Hey KG, um while uh while you're wrapping up the the the the the wild banter and we're on the front end, just go let I don't want you to be Nostradamus, but let's just look at the first series. You said six or seven. What are are you gonna stick with that? Is six or seven and uh and the wild come out on top? What are you gonna go?

SPEAKER_02 24:02

I've got the wild and six. I think uh you don't want to have to go down there for game seven. I think the wild right now have a chance to uh at least put the first two this coming weekend, and I think it's gonna be a six game uh wild victory, and then see what happens with Colorado. They're they're the tough favorites. So I think people have been complaining about the playoff format. The silver lining is they're healthy right now. So you're gonna face two of the best three teams in the league, and you're likely gonna do it um hopefully with a with a healthy roster while you're fresh. If you get through Dallas from Colorado, then you might just be on your way.

SPEAKER_05 24:40

All right, we're gonna uh uh uh Minnesota and six. Yeah, Minnesota. One last question.

SPEAKER_04 24:46

On the team, I saw a fun thing where people were guessing who would have the biggest smile in the team picture. And did you see that little that little reel? Yes. And Marcus Bellino clearly had the biggest smile. Who is the may the biggest like fashion guy? Like who wears the most fashion forward outfits to the rink?

SPEAKER_01 25:10

That's a oh god, that's a good question. I know Bellino would be in that conversation, such a good looking guy.

SPEAKER_04 25:16

Yeah, he's got all kinds of Louis Vuitton bags and stuff. He's a little precious there.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

Well until you get on the ice and you you meet him in the corner. It's not so precious when he's looking to rim me through the wall.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

I I know that, Jack. I see it on uh the the on the show? No, on uh like Facebook things. Oh I become really kind of into this Minnesota wild team. It's I'm one of those uh school, yeah. This is the hockey one, right? That's the hockey game. Hockey is the game that they play on ice. I just know that's a playoff app, and I want to make it. Do you have something prepared for us to make it hot? Yeah. I I do actually. Well, what is it today? Well, I don't want to disrupt. No, we're done wild playing. We've been waiting for you, the game show horse. Um we we we purposely started early so we wouldn't have to subject you to the uh just joking.

SPEAKER_03 26:08

I I love I love the wife.

SPEAKER_04 26:09

Steve and I will be going to the uh the Hill Murray premiere auction with our moms. We'll be bringing our moms and our wives. Yeah. And Leno Rooley is the MC at that event. I am former and I mean that's the guy. I mean, you talk about a guy that can't.

SPEAKER_03 26:25

We've seen him speak uh in front of the Hill Murray folks before. Oh, yeah. Was that the same event? Or is that something? I can't remember. Well, he's good. He knows what he's doing, he's he kills it.

SPEAKER_04 26:34

He's an entertainer, he was in the circus. He was, you know. Yeah, he was. So what's our game?

SPEAKER_03 26:39

All right, so we have uh I've prepared a little thing. Who knows if it'll be fun? We'll see if we can get KG a lot fun. Is it a long game? I don't know. It's long as we want to make it. Depends on how fun we have, how much fun we have. Um we have a game that is uh it's another well, go around the room, right? It's one of those kind of games where we can play. It's called uh well turn awkward, rude, or negative comments moments into kindness wins on the fly. Okay, and called Do you want do you want me to play the the the Hold on I'll just say you'll say it first, okay? It's called kindness comebacks. Let's do that song.

SPEAKER_06 27:18

Kindness comeback, kindness comeback, kindness comeback.

SPEAKER_03 27:25

All right. That's compliments to my friend Steven Russell, right? This one is called kindness comebacks. We're all gonna get uh thrown into the real life, annoying, awkward, and just plain rude situations. Oh yeah, put those glasses on. Yeah, and we uh so we've got about five seconds response, five or ten seconds response with the most clever, disarming, kindness-powered comebacks you can come up with. No sarcasm, no cheap shots, just high-level kindness only under pressure.

SPEAKER_04 27:58

Let's see who's got game. Okay, let's start with KG. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:02

So so each host will go around, or each of our group here will go around getting the situation, and they can do you know, whatever they can do to respond. Best would it be um shoot, let's just yeah, let's just try. Do they want to do like Minnesota nice? Do they want to do dry humor? Do they want to go over the top with enthusiasm? Yeah, do they want to be calm and wise or slightly passive aggressive? Let's be what we are. Yeah. Let's be what we are. Let's be what we are. Okay, and then we will all judge whether it's uh escalated kindness, um, just empty or made the matter worse, or simply recovered or made things worse. Okay, okay. So hoping for the last. So who wants to go first? Who should we have? Let's have KG go down.

SPEAKER_04 28:42

KG KG. KG's on the tightest timeline. KG, how much more do we have of you before you have to go to your movies? At least half an hour. We got plenty of time, right? I got a pedicure at 6 30, so we'll give a KG.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

We'll give you a couple of them. Give a couple of them. Okay. Are you driving right now? Yeah. Okay. Well, this is perfect for you then. Someone cuts you off in traffic, then flips you off, and then you pull next to them again. How do you handle that in the most kindness-empowered way? Or or do you not do it that way? What would you do?

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Well, in this day and age, I try not to escalate the situation. So if somebody cut which happens, right? They don't see it, they're not paying attention. I don't know why they were flipping me off, but um, if I get up there, I have to understand they're probably having a bad day. It's probably not me that caused this bad day. So I would probably just give them the thumbs up and the salute and hope, like be by not being a jackass and flipping on the bird that their day gets better, but you know, not a lot you can really do in that situation. Oh, yes, there is.

SPEAKER_04 29:47

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_02 29:48

Escalate it and make it a lot worse.

SPEAKER_04 29:50

I blow them a kiss. Uh that is my response. I blow people a kiss, and sometimes it really makes them angry, and then I will roll down the window and say, Would you rather have a real kiss? And then it gets real.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

Have you gone that far? I have.

unknown 30:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:09

And then you actually Yes, I have, and it makes them laugh. Oh, perfect. That escalated it. In your own special way. Escalated, and then they laugh their butts off. Because you made them face a ridiculous. It's like really, yeah. You would you like a real kiss? And honestly, I've gotten a laugh. Yeah, but if you had your fist up, that would be different. Like, yeah. You want a real kiss? They look at me and they're a kid kisser. Okay, this is fun. This is good. I got I got a lot of. I kind of feel like I want to answer all of that.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

Well, of course. Yeah, I know. Because you like to hear yourself.

SPEAKER_04 30:38

Oh, well, you can.

SPEAKER_03 30:39

There are no rules. All right, let's give one to uh let's give one to Dempsey here. Yeah, Dempsey. Um, a coworker takes credit for your for your awesome idea in a meeting. Clearly, it's clearly it's clearly your your idea?

SPEAKER_05 30:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:54

How do you handle that? As a professional man that you are.

SPEAKER_05 30:56

Yeah. Uh are we in the meeting together? Like we're sitting next to each other, and the idea comes up, and this person says, It hey, that was my idea, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

No, it's like no, it's your idea.

SPEAKER_05 31:08

No, no, I know, but it's claims that it's her idea. It's probably a woman. Sorry, why would I say that? Wow. Sorry, ladies. Uh you know what I would probably do, I'd probably look at her uh or him, right? And I would go. And let me tell you something. That was an amazing idea. There you go. That's perfect. I I would have been like, you can't, that was so great. You know, that was an amazing idea.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

Or you could uh start drilling them with questions that of the nuances that only know. Only what you only you know the nuances.

SPEAKER_03 31:40

That's a kind of sarcastic different angle.

SPEAKER_05 31:44

Oh, I'll I'll get there. Tell us I would I yeah, I'll get there, but I'll start with really pumping the tires. Like, you want credit for this thing? Yeah, that'd make the room laugh, probably, right?

SPEAKER_03 31:55

Because everyone knows it was your idea.

SPEAKER_05 31:56

I'm gonna give you all of the credit, and then you know, you're pumping your own tires, then all of a sudden it's like, oh boy, I'm gonna be exposed. This person.

SPEAKER_03 32:05

They just kind of cap and that's what I would do.

SPEAKER_04 32:07

That's how I would respond. Okay. I would be like Jim Helpert on the office and look down the camera.

SPEAKER_03 32:13

A mug in.

SPEAKER_04 32:15

Right? Um, yeah. Okay, Jeff. And then I'd blow him a kiss. Oh, yeah, of course you would.

SPEAKER_03 32:19

I guess that always ends in a kiss. Yeah, yeah. That's that's his go-to. Jeff, that's gross. A grumpy cashier barely acknowledges you and seems annoyed you're even there. How do you handle that one at the local market?

SPEAKER_00 32:34

Uh feel bad for her, probably her him, and just want to give them some nice pleasantries and hopefully get them to break their pattern. I don't want them to be. They seem annoyed with you. Oh, annoyed with me. Okay. Yeah, they're annoyed with you. All right. Well, not me if I confront I confront them and ask them, was there some is there a problem? Did I say something? Wow. No. Is there a I would ask them Is there some kind of a problem for a kiss?

SPEAKER_04 33:02

I would ask them, where are your condoms? Oh, just throw something, or yeah, I could use some tampons. Did you show me something like that to really like get like just disarming?

SPEAKER_03 33:14

You like to disarm it. You like to disarm it.

SPEAKER_05 33:16

I'm with I'm with John only. I would go and I want the big ones.

SPEAKER_06 33:20

I would I would I would I love that.

SPEAKER_05 33:25

I love that. I would go with something similar. I would, I would say, do you do you smell that? Man, I I do you smell that? I I smell it. Do you smell is that what's annoying you? I mean, because it doesn't smell good. Well, maybe it's me. That's what I would say. That's a good one. What's that smell? What would you do, KG?

SPEAKER_04 33:43

Yeah, you know, you're a man of the people. Yeah. Grumpy cashew.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

I would, I would, I would probably give them a smile and say, hey, it's great to see you. I hope your day gets better. Clearly, it's not going very good so far.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

Oh, and then a kiss.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

Kind of an end tag to that's kind of nice Minnesota.

SPEAKER_02 34:02

I'm not I'm not a big uh I don't want to kiss anybody. And you know, what if they what if they want to kiss me? And then I then I'm in a bad position.

SPEAKER_04 34:10

That's right. Let me ask you this. John's the kisser. Yeah. Have you ever said, do you recognize me from TV? No. No, no. I would. No. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

That is.

SPEAKER_04 34:21

I'd be wearing all my Fox Sports stuff just so everybody knows that it's me.

SPEAKER_02 34:27

Oh, so no. No cringe. That that that whole cringe, don't you know me, like that, that is just a recipe for disaster. I have never uttered those words, and I never will.

SPEAKER_04 34:37

Do you ever travel around with like a cordless microphone? Just in case, like you could pull it out of your pocket and get it to the butter. And just start interviewing start interviewing the person. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

That actually, if we could have like a hidden camera, that actually would be a fun like you know, like remember on Seinfeld when when uh the the uh the animal guy comes in and he goes, hey, where are the cameras? Yeah, because he's doing this professional interview. He's the Merv Griffin. I could have the microphone, and like you guys could be recording it, but they couldn't see me or see you. And I started like interviewing, like, we're on like a broadcast, and then they started looking around like, what is this guy doing? Like they would think I was Ricky Birdsong. I remember Ricky Birdsong was the Northwestern basketball coach that started going into the crowd when the gophers were clocking Northwestern. He was like being the band director of the gopher marching band. I could be I could be the broadcast version of Ricky Birdsong.

SPEAKER_04 35:37

Okay, now see this is this game is really it's we need to do this more often.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

You know, can I be honest, you guys? No. In the in the situation we gave Jeff, which you're in a store, the person's I I think honestly, how I really hand I try to approach anytime I'm with uh someone working in a store, I didn't realize they work with grumpy people all the time, you know, and and they can be grumpy. I probably wouldn't say anything, I would be pleasant to them. I would walk out and be a little like, man, I tell somebody, man, guy, you should have seen this guy. I would have probably been Minnesota, not say anything, yeah. You know, but bitch about him later. A little bit. I would have been like, Man, the guy was so rude today. But I would try to pour kindness on him. Um, I I wouldn't be as bold as you. I know that's how you would do it. You'd disarm it. I'd say, you know, you got something in your nose.

SPEAKER_05 36:23

You should probably get rid of it. Let's go but listen, I would I will say this on on that note. One thing that I always do, like uh legit, is I always call them by their name. They always have a name tag.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

That's a good thing. I've been doing that lately too.

SPEAKER_05 36:37

And I always, no matter if I'm checking out or like maybe I'm calling somebody for some support from the bank or whatever, I always I repeat their name back to them so that I'm acknowledging their name. And uh that always is I also look them in the eye. Yeah, and you and then you're humanizing them because if you don't do that, then I know what you could do. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_04 36:59

It's how you say their name. You could go, thank you, Brenna. Yeah, like that. Very kind of janis. It's usually correct. John, I got one for you. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_03 37:09

I got one for you. This is uh a neighborhood, this is a John, Mr. Monomedi man here. Okay, yeah. A neighbor complains about something super minor to you again. Oh, yeah. So it's happened many times. What would I say? What is your real think about what you really would react to?

SPEAKER_05 37:26

Well, but I just want to ask. They they're complaining to you about something you're doing.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

I'm gonna let's make that up. Yeah, something that John has going on in his yard or with his with his property somehow.

SPEAKER_04 37:37

Oh, that's not gonna happen. Yeah, it's not your show. Yeah, so so somebody comes up and says to the show. I would probably say, Are your meds off? Oh, oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_03 37:46

What if you what if their meds are off? What if it's really someone who has is having a problem? Would you know what?

SPEAKER_01 37:52

Be careful with the meds.

SPEAKER_03 37:53

Would you say that to anyone? Let's see. Yes. Picture a neighbor. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 37:57

A neighbor that you don't attack me, the great guy that I attack, yeah. Something is wrong with them. But it's my guess something that I did. It's come up, it's again, so it's something that's happened repeatedly.

unknown 38:11

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 38:11

Yeah, I don't know. Like I left their garbage can too long in their yard.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

I know. I don't even know how to rear it.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

Yeah, a garbage can thing, or something where you keep doing it. And maybe they don't understand, but how do you handle it in a way that is kind?

SPEAKER_04 38:26

I would say, oh God, I'm sorry. Uh you know what? Would you yeah, for sure. And then different if their meds are off after. As I'm walking away under your breath. Under my breath, I but just loud enough for them to hear me. Sure.

SPEAKER_03 38:39

KG, I guess I got one for you because you meet a lot of people, you talk to tons of people, and I know you have like a a way to, you know, say, hey, pal, or hey, no, so what are some of your names that you use to people that you don't know?

SPEAKER_04 38:51

Tiger?

SPEAKER_02 38:51

What are your partner, boss, chief?

SPEAKER_04 38:54

Chief.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Oh, chief. You ever use sport? Hey, bud. I I don't use sport. That reminds me of uh sport Caddyshack, Judge Schmail, who was kind of annoying. How about buckshot?

SPEAKER_05 39:06

Have you ever used that? Hey, what's up, buckshot? That must be a little falls thing. Buckshot.

SPEAKER_03 39:11

And we don't talk like that here in this big city.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

I usually go boss. I make them feel like they're you know they're powerful.

SPEAKER_03 39:18

All right, now flip flip that though, KG. Say you run into something, you're out of town, you're not, you know, people you're not known in this area, you're somewhere far away, you're not KG. Someone forgets your name mid-conversation after you met them multiple times. How do you handle that?

SPEAKER_02 39:33

I just reintroduced myself. It's happened. And uh, you know, I just walk back up and say, Yeah, Kevin Gore, good to see you again. Um just move forward. I it gets awkward otherwise, like and I'm so bad with names that I appreciate when you know people remind you of it. People are in that awkward spot because it feels horrible to not remember someone's name when you're probably you know just met them recently and should know the name. So I kind of do that, so I don't want to make them feel bad.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

Kindness tip, yeah. Never say nice to meet you to somebody. I know we've talked about this is kind of good to see you, right? It's good to see you. Why is it rude to say meet you? Because you already met them. Because you don't know if you've met them or not. And if you're a guy like KG, so KG's on the TV, everybody knows KG, but KG doesn't know everybody. And if he does, he just you know, he doesn't, it's always good to see you. I'm very popular with the people. Right. Um, you know, I would never say nice to meet you to anybody.

SPEAKER_05 40:33

Well, it's always good to see you, especially he's he's popular with the older people. They don't remember. They don't they don't remember. You could use that all the time. Well, I but but can I ask the reverse? I I really need this because I'm horrible with names, and I will be in conversations with people, and they're just recounting our experiences together, and I got a trick for that. I have no idea who they are. I can't place them in my head, and I just need a name. I don't know what to do. So here's I I have a trick for this. Okay, good. What is it? It's just politeness.

SPEAKER_04 41:02

I will say, I will say, but it's it's sort of a kindness to acknowledge. I'm like, remind me again, what's your name? And they'll say their first name, and you go, No, I know Andrea, but what's your last buccanee, right? It is. Oh my god. Of course. That's a good one. That's a good and then you're like, Of course, I know it's you, Monica. Yeah, what's your last?

SPEAKER_05 41:21

It's always women. Did you notice that?

SPEAKER_04 41:22

It's always women. I like to meet the women. All right. That that is a really good tip. Yep. So the kindness tip, maybe we could have your buddy make a kindness tip. Okay, kind of dip.

SPEAKER_03 41:32

Hey, we're having ourselves a kindness dip. Yeah, so far they're kind of, you know, they're they're politeness and stuff, but again, this is kindness comebacks, right? These are kindness comebacks. This is uh a little more of a playful one, but I want to bring it up to you because you work in an office environment often. You're walking down hallways with people. This is fun, this has happened to me too, but uh you wave at someone who you thought was waving at you, yeah, and they weren't. So this is an embarrassment thing. How do you handle that and say face? Um there so you wave because they're waving at you or toward your direction, but that's right past you.

SPEAKER_05 42:06

Yeah, yeah. What do you do? So um I I then I wave with some real vigor. Yes, right? I wave with some real vigor, and then what I do is I point at me, and then I point at them like me? Is it me? You know, and then I pick me, I make it uh a bit of a sketch, right? When I know it's not me, then I just go really into it.

SPEAKER_03 42:27

But your yeah, your virus.

SPEAKER_05 42:29

Turn around and wave at the person that they're waiting.

SPEAKER_04 42:32

I could totally see you do it. Yeah, it's turning it into a sketch.

SPEAKER_05 42:35

It's a total sketch for me. When instead of going, oh God, I'm then slinking off, you know. No way, I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_04 42:41

Here's the one thing to smell your arm, you know.

SPEAKER_03 42:44

Yeah, you look here. Here's the I think I would do something very silly like that if I was walking with someone. Yeah, but if I'm by myself, I think I'd be a little more like, oh.

SPEAKER_05 42:53

Oh, not me. No. Um good for you. I'm entertained by myself.

SPEAKER_04 42:57

Gigi, what do you do? I'm sure you've never been caught in that situation because people are generally waving at you.

SPEAKER_02 43:04

I it it's the the worst for me because I never know when they yell my name if they're just watching wild games or with somebody I went to school with or something, and I just don't have that mechanism. John and I have a mutual friend from college named Mark McAsee, and he is almost autistic with in the way he can remember names and conversations, and I'm so jealous of that skill because I end up, you know, whether it's in an arena or wherever we are, yeah, seeing a bunch of people and I want to know their name. And so what I normally do is if someone's not around there that can help me, at some point I'll just say, Hey, it's on me, and I apologize, but I I can't place your name. I can place your face, I know I know you, but I don't know your name. And then you know we laugh and you know, I make fun of how old I am and I'm exactly right or whatever. Put it on yourself.

SPEAKER_04 44:00

You have to say H is caught up with me. Clearly, it's caught up with you. I don't recognize you anymore. So let's just acknowledge that life has gotten the best of us. Wow. I would do that. I would do that. Yeah, I can hear you. Because it's it's it's very disarming. Yeah. You know, I wouldn't do it to a gal. I wouldn't say that to a gal, but to a guy, like I have said to people, it's like, God, you've gotten old. And I look the same. Well, what does that happen?

SPEAKER_05 44:32

Well, I don't really like that much. I got uh to I want to ask a question of you guys, but first I got a story about that. I was in uh actually, you don't look like you did in high school. No high hole. No, I don't. And this is this is the story. I was in this uh restaurant, the restaurant Jeff, you and I went to that Thai restaurant. I was sitting there by myself, and this guy walks in, and I hadn't seen this guy in 30 years, and we played hockey together and growing up in Little Falls, and I I said his name like two or three times, and he's literally from me to you away, John. And he looks at me and he doesn't, he's it's not registering. And I mean, I've you know, we did sleepovers, we're on bus trips. I mean, like he I I said, I I'm I say it's first and last name, and I said, No, sit down, right? And he goes, he sits down, he stands down, but he doesn't know me. He's looking at me and he's like, I just can't place it. Like, and I'm like, why did you sit down?

SPEAKER_04 45:24

Finally tell him.

SPEAKER_05 45:26

And then I'm like, I'm so-and-so, and he goes, Oh my god, yeah, I didn't see him in 30 years. Oh yeah, oh goodness. So here's my question, though. Well, I don't know how it is for you, KG, but like at different uh phases of my life, people called me different things. So if someone says, Hey Mike, I know it's like someone I knew in grade school. If it's like Jack, I knew it was somebody because that you were you knew me as Jack in college. Like if it's Michael, like so uh I I had different sort of names or nicknames at different stages in my life. So if someone yells at like if you called me fatso. Oh, yeah, fat so I knew it is that what it is? Yeah. Do you guys have that? I mean, KG, do you have that? If someone says something to you, like, oh, that's a college buddy or anything like that.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

Everyone's called me Gorg or Gorgi forever. Okay. The only time I know it's something different is this whole K-train thing has caught fire the last couple years. So if they say K-Train, it's no one I know. I got it. It's a wild fan, and we have a circle. But the problem is, like Monica, my youngest, was little. I'm going back probably 15 years. We were walking through, I think it was Law of America, and it was just her and I were doing some shop and we're gonna grab some lunch, and the two young, you know, hockey fans, probably high school age, scream at the top of their lungs, and my daughter like she's like kind of hugged into me and like got scared, and she's like, Why are they yelling our name? And I'm like, Oh, they're just hockey fans, they're all excited. And so then they came over and we did the pictures and yada yada yada. But it at first, you know, seven-year-old Monica was like freaking out.

SPEAKER_05 47:08

Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. That's funny. Name is a name is a big deal, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

Uh, okay, let's get back on the kindness comeback game. Just a quick, well, let's go. A couple more and then let's be done.

SPEAKER_05 47:19

We got a pedicure.

SPEAKER_03 47:20

Oh, do you really?

SPEAKER_05 47:21

I do actually. All right. Oh, that's so much. And we don't want to cut into that. It's sandals season.

SPEAKER_04 47:28

Um the owners would say, What take you so long to get here?

SPEAKER_03 47:32

Oh, you did not do that. These are only I'm gonna ignore that. These are only uh these are so there's just some social awkward ones, but we get into a few others, and we can play this game again. But Jeff, this one's for you. You hold the door for someone and they don't uh they don't say thank you. You hold the door, they walk through, not a word. What do you how do you handle that? Or you just kind of give it an eye roll, or what do you do, Jeff?

SPEAKER_00 47:54

I say you're welcome. Sarcastic is a good one. I love it. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I would not. I I I I it's not I don't want to make anyone's day bad. So I I've that's pretty sarcastic. I I have done that in the past, uh in my 20s, but I've mellowed it with age.

SPEAKER_04 48:14

So so I have so if I let somebody in when we're driving and I don't get the wave, I go with the Jerry Seinfeld, where's my wave? Yeah, yeah. And they can hear you. Well, hopefully. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

No, because it fits. It fits the moment. Yeah. Where's my wave?

SPEAKER_03 48:31

Give me that wave. Um okay, I'll go one more for for you, John. Kindness comebacks. Last question, we'll we'll play the theme song again, maybe. Um John, someone interrupts you three times while you're telling a story. This is your story. Oh boy. They're telling a story. You can't say, is this a long story to them? Because they're they're you're telling a story and they're interrupting you. How do you handle that? In a in a maybe it's not a work thing. Maybe you're not the boss. You're not the boss.

SPEAKER_04 49:02

Really?

SPEAKER_03 49:03

Well, I don't think so. This is all let's say this, John. You're not at work. This is just because work, you're the boss, and they're gonna they're not gonna do that to you. It's just out there in the world.

SPEAKER_04 49:12

Well, most of the places that I go, I'm the boss. Wow. Like oh man, right now, yeah, no. Here's what I would do. I would say, please stop interrupting me. I have a very important story to finish, right? And you keep interrupting me. I have the floor. All right, that's what I would do. So you you you've heard me do stuff like that, right, Casey? Yeah, on the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 49:40

Yeah, 100%. And you're yeah, you're good. And no more's gonna look when you get going, like it it normally is a good enough story where people aren't normally gonna interrupt you anyway.

SPEAKER_04 49:50

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

You've got a good way of telling stories.

SPEAKER_03 49:52

I do like to hear myself talk. So it's uh, so it's you're you're actually by making it very dramatic, like you're doing, yeah, it's so absurd that it clearly it's gonna make people laugh.

SPEAKER_04 50:03

It would be like uh like Bill Murray-ish, sort of please, yeah, would you stop with the goddamn hammering, remember?

SPEAKER_05 50:12

Yeah, Scrooge. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:14

For the love of God.

SPEAKER_05 50:16

That's good. I would, I would, I would say though, that that's and I can picture that. I would say if someone's interrupted you three times, uh, that means they're active listening. Maybe that's a sign of kindness, maybe unless unless I agree with that.

SPEAKER_04 50:31

In fact, I like when people interrupt you and then they and they apologize for interrupting you, I will give them grace and say, Well, this is how conversations work.

SPEAKER_03 50:40

Yeah, sure. Sometimes we I like banter like that. Yeah, I do too. I I I talk often with introverts and extroverts, and both have their merits. And an introvert will let me talk and then listen and wait, and then I have to wait for them to respond. And I have a very carefully thought out thing. I I I know people like that. My wife is an introvert, um, but sometimes I like talking. My friend Steven's kind of an extrovert. We just kind of just jive, we just introvert going. Yeah, we just keep I like that energy. That wears you out.

SPEAKER_00 51:09

Yeah, that's he's he'll wear you out. That I like that energy. Oh, I know. There's not a sarcastic version you can say, Oh, did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours? That's good. That's a great line. Wow. Oh, I love it. Take note of that.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

Or to be kind, you could go, I really want to hear what you're gonna ask, but let me just finish, you know, like keep saying it, but yeah, or say, shut the front door.

SPEAKER_04 51:30

So hey, um before we before we conclude, I have to ask, have any of you watched The Pit?

SPEAKER_03 51:37

Oh, yeah. I've been telling you about it for years. It was the greatest.

SPEAKER_04 51:40

Have you watched it, KG? No, what is it? Uh are you serious? It's on HBO Max. It is, it might be my new favorite show in a long time. On the edge of your seat. Well, fascinating. It's about the uh the a Pittsburgh emergency room and Noel Wiley, who used to work in Chicago in the ER in Chicago. He's now working at an ER in Pittsburgh, but he's you know he's the boss.

SPEAKER_05 52:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:06

But it is so well cast, like those characters, yeah. You know every one of those characters.

SPEAKER_05 52:12

Well, John, you didn't you you go back and listen. We we brought up I know that's why I started listening. When you uh when you had one of the nurses on for Dina is that nurse, Dina is that blonde nurse.

SPEAKER_04 52:26

She's the head boss for sure. Yeah, she's such a badass. And my daughter Riley reminds me very much of the the the one kind of badass. Yeah, I know which one you're talking about.

SPEAKER_05 52:38

You know, I'm talking about sassy. Totally sassy. She has a house. Yeah, Huckleberry lives with her, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Santos.

SPEAKER_04 52:47

Santos, yeah. She's so good. And that the Huckleberry guy is so good. Right.

SPEAKER_00 52:52

I heard in the last episode, didn't an ice agent come in and take away some of the but no, I I haven't seen the second up second season.

SPEAKER_04 53:00

I'm only on the first season.

SPEAKER_03 53:03

Well, it's way to go. Well, I'll just say about it because I've Who did they take?

SPEAKER_04 53:07

Santos?

SPEAKER_03 53:08

I didn't know how to have Santos. They're kind of bringing the political angle in it. Yeah, no, it's it's fascinating, and part of the reason why it's so good is you're invested in the characters and how they're doing it, but they're not um it's it's not their love life and all this stuff. It's it's engrossing in each uh medical case that they're doing. There's a lot of gross. There's miss, yeah, very gross. Yeah, but it's it's it's uh you you're in the edge of your seat and you find yourself fascinated with the medical aspect of how they're doing, and it's uh it's very well um they have experts that are on hand all shooting it. Sure is it's so fascinating.

SPEAKER_05 53:43

So it's um what it what it evolves grip it's um it's a lot of times you're watching a show and it's the relationship between actors, and this is just as much the relationship that an individual has with their own mental uh health around how they're dealing with the the the patient or the pace. It a lot of it is about an individual's sort of mental health in that situation, and that's what's compelling about it. Not uh whereas most shows it's uh two people or three people, those relationships in this show, it's how am I dealing with this chaos? Very complicated.

SPEAKER_04 54:22

The reason I bring it up is in many respects, it gives me many of the same feelings that watching Ted Lasso did. Yes, there are lots of oxytocin moments, like when one of the senior doctors says something uh nice to one of the younger docs and just hitting the nail on the head, like this is exactly what that person needed to hear at the time. I just love that stuff, and I I honestly I think there's something to be to be learned from just watching how people manage people.

SPEAKER_03 54:50

Yeah, well, let me just say that season two goes even deeper in that, and there's a moment that just happened recently that it you know one doctor says something to another one, and it's so much of what that person needs to hear, and it's just emotional. Oh, I love it. They're they're building the tension up. You will love second season.

SPEAKER_05 55:07

Yeah, I love second season. And as far as oxytocin goes, um uh with it with a humorous bend, but also rich with emotion uh shrinking. My wife has watched it. Watched it all. Yeah, it's uh it's also you watching forward and yes, very, very, very good. And it's actually the same same writers from Ted Lasso wrote shrinking. Oh, and you'll get sort of the same oxytocin hit.

SPEAKER_03 55:34

It's just a different speed, and it's you know, they they swear and stuff, so it's good, it's more of a good script is good. Yeah, just when I think of sappy, they get you. Yes, just I'm like, okay, and then I go. It's just like Ted Lasso.

SPEAKER_04 55:44

Yes, KG that and that's shrinking, not shrinkage. Yeah, okay. I was in the book.

SPEAKER_06 55:50

Shrinkage is a problem.

SPEAKER_04 55:52

Well, I don't want to watch a show about shrinkage. No, thanks. That's right. All right.

SPEAKER_06 55:57

Oh, but shrinking is a good show.

SPEAKER_04 55:58

There we go. I think we've given them enough, we've given them more than they deserve. That's what I always do.

SPEAKER_05 56:02

It's so good to be here.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

Yeah, good on a YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

Yeah, that's that YouTube. Check out and off we go.