The Kindness Chronicles

Ep. 198 Wild talk and Kindness Comebacks (part 2)

Kevin Gorg, Steve Brown, John Schwietz, Jeff Hoffmann

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Our scheduled guest was unable to join us, SO…More Wild talk (that’s all KG knows…and movies), and Steve leads us in another one of his Kindness Comebacks game. 

SPEAKER_03

Welcome to the Kindness Chronicles, where it's our opportunity to once again inject the world with a dose to the minister the kindness that it desperately needs. We've got Jeff. Hi, Jeff. Hey guys. And uh KG's on the line. KG, back in town.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, good to be back. Uh back home. Beautiful day here today. I'm glad I uh the early flight home, got a couple of walks in with the pups, and uh yes, bring us strong guys.

SPEAKER_03

Steve will be joining us, uh, will be joining us shortly. He doesn't like to participate in the sports talk.

SPEAKER_02

He gets a little uh intimidated there, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's just it's not his wheelhouse. That's okay. Um let's just review. You were in Dallas the last couple of days. Um Wilde comes away one and one, which we should feel pretty good about. So we've got home. Is does that mean we have home court advantage? Does that even matter anymore?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I don't know how much it matters in the NHL, the whole home ice thing. But yeah, five games left in the series. Three of the five games are in St. Paul. And if you know, if you do the math, and Minnesota's able to win their three home games where they all, you know, they always play well in St. Paul.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and three of the win score at home.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you win the series. So that that's something they earned. Um, I thought they could have won either game. The first game, obviously, Dallas didn't play well. Minnesota clocked them, but I I thought last night's game was up for grabs. I thought uh Jake Andrew, Dallas's goalie made some unbelievable saves in the first half of that hockey game. If a couple of those fucks go in, and he probably pulled four out of the net. I mean, Boldy probably had a hard time falling asleep last night with the the two glove saves that Ander made at him. One on the deflection, one on the breakaway. Um, you know, kind of funny that they were teammates with Team USA, and then Andrew just shown them last night. But uh last night was one of the most physical hockey games I've ever watched. And I've obviously seen a ton of hockey, but that was an absolute war.

SPEAKER_03

Let's talk about that for a moment because I get the sense that those Dallas lads could use a dose of the kindness chronicles. They seem like they seem like they're uh a little on the crabby side. What could we could you address that for us?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I think you know, they're missing one of their top weapons offensively, and a guy named Rope Hans out for a couple six, eight weeks. He isn't back yet. And so I think they realize that two of probably the best three players on the ice are wearing a wild sweater, Fuldi and Capri Sow. And I I just I look at the way the games are being called, and Dallas is certainly they're walking the line, and a lot of the the cross checks and the extra curriculars after the whistle are meant to intimidate Minnesota and keep them from doing what they want to do, which is drive them nets. And I think when you look at the way Brock Faber scored those two goals last night, one of the rare chances were Dallas the you know, the inner slot area, which is kind of prized real estate. So they are um they are a team that's hard to to like. Like last year getting beat by Vegas, I kind of walked away saying, you know what, um the Wild could have won the series. It was it was a competitive series, but I didn't look at those guys as kind of being jackasses where this group from Tyler Myers with his cross checks, Amico Rantan and sheep shotting guys in between whistles. I I just I have a feeling, guys, and you know, I I've got a pretty good finger on the pulse of the crowds in St. Paul. I've got a feeling uh with the 852 puck drop tomorrow night, uh, it's gonna be bonkers in St. Paul. The crowd's gonna be lubed up, and there's gonna be some vet on there because the Dallas crowd made a difference. They were incredibly loud, and I think it carried them through in game two.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I got a feeling when you've got that much time between uh getting off of work and the puck dropping, there might be a few beverages consumed that uh, like you said, that that ought to get the crowd uh ramped up significantly.

SPEAKER_02

And you know, the wild are always trying to get special um, I guess I'll call them celebrities to do the let's play hockey, right? You go to the wild game, a let's play hockey is a big deal. Just rumors, it has not yet been confirmed, but it sounds like this is breaking news. Uh young Justin Jefferson might be doing the let's play hockey tomorrow. And if that's the case, the the roof might come off the building.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm guessing JJ McCarthy wasn't available. No, why would I say that's not very nice?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's not nice at all.

SPEAKER_03

And Kyler Murray, probably they they wouldn't be able to see him. They'd have to give him a booster chair, which is very sad.

SPEAKER_02

That's just terrible too. You know what they can't say.

SPEAKER_03

They don't listen. We'll be fine. That's true.

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That's true.

SPEAKER_03

Um, the uh the the Zuccarello is hurt. What's what do you see there?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. They're calling him upper body. Uh John Hines uh admitted that it happened on that elbow he took early in game one from Tyler Myers. And I keep mentioning Tyler Myers' name. He's 57 for Dallas. He he's about a six foot five defenseman. It's not really that mobile, but he's a big physical guy. And Zuccarello took a shot at the net and was kind of going to skate by and just go chase off into the corner. And Myers did the old chicken wing where he shoved his elbow right off the chin of Zuccarello. So we're we're I guess assuming that the upper body injury they're calling it is a concussion. Because the weird thing was yesterday in Dallas, Zuccarello took morning skate, which is usually an indication it's going to play. And the speculation was sometimes when you have a mild concussion and you do you know some exercise, you get sick. And so maybe that played a part, and all of a sudden the Wild having to shuffle the deck in the afternoon. We didn't find out Zuccarello wasn't playing until we got back to the ranking uh you know, a couple hours before puck drop last night, which was a big surprise. And it really does change the look of the Wild's power play. And he's such a playmaker, and he forced him Carill on that first line, it's weird because you would think plugging Terasenko in would be great because he's been so hot on the stretch, and they're they're good buddies, but they don't seem to have the chemistry on the ice that Zuccarello and Carill certainly do. And so it's just it was different last night. I thought Carill was really quiet, and so as you look at game three and into game four, if if Zuccarello can come back, that would be uh a really big jolt for Minnesota.

SPEAKER_03

How much dread does that guy got left on the tire? He's 38 years old.

SPEAKER_02

You know, it's funny you ask because you know, NHL, you don't see guys play much past 39 or 40. I mean, you in fact you rarely see guys get to 38 and still be this effective. But Zucarello's a different cat. And you know, you look at the way he takes care of himself. He doesn't take a beating. He's not a guy that plays in the trenches, right? He's more of a perimeter guy, so he's not taking a bunch of hits. Um, and he's he's a really, you know, he's a I think a typical European guy that does a lot of soccer, calisthenics, and stuff on the on the side, you know, when he's not playing hockey. And he um he still got he's still got the juice out there, John. It's uh it's a fascinating question. I my guess is contracts up after this year. I'm guessing they're gonna re-up him for at least one more year because he's still effective, and I think he brings out the best in your in your superstar for Caprice up. So I don't think there's a lot of a lot of reasons to not bring him back.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the Europeans are are well known for avoiding any conflict, if you know what I mean. You know, generally speaking.

SPEAKER_02

Well, he is he is he's Swiss.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I mean, that's I mean, he's a peacemaker.

SPEAKER_02

But he is a peacemaker. You know, listen, I I respect that. I'm more of a lover than a third of myself.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, look at you. You're you're like Fabio without all the great hair and stuff. Hey, uh Zeke. Real real quick, um, did you happen to see the video of the Pittsburgh Pirate throwing the ball into the crowd? Did you see that? No. Where the little boy catches the ball. Jeff, did you see that?

SPEAKER_01

I did not. I I actually, though, pulled this up. I think this happened in game one. This was a little girl that was a Minnesota Stars fan and she caught a Minnesota Stars. Well, um boy to the Dallas Stars. Did you did you see that, Kat KG? Or do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

I did see the puck situation. Yeah, but I didn't see the baseball one. So let me tell you. The puck one's different, John. Yeah, you go over the baseball one first.

SPEAKER_03

I'll go over the baseball one first. So anyway, there was uh uh the center fielder for the the Pittsburgh Pirates, I can't recall his name, saw a little girl uh up in the the crowd wearing one of his jerseys. So he points up there, throws the ball, and her brother happened to have a baseball glove, and he catches the ball. He's in uh a Paul Skeen uh USA jersey and he gives the ball to the little sister and the hug that she gives him and the people it was it was seriously if it doesn't show up on the highs and lows of the week on Willie Geist on Sunday, I'm gonna be very disappointed. It was so heartwarming. It was an oxytocin oxytocin moment. Tell us about the uh little girl during game one.

SPEAKER_01

This one I pulled up. I asked AI, is there anything I can ask KG about the series so far in terms of moments of kindness and a moment she'll never forget popped up. During game one, a puck deflected off stars defenseman Miro Heiskinen. His stick. It flew deep into the stands. It was caught by a young stars fan in a green jersey whose pure joy and priceless celebration caught the attention of both the announcers and fans on social media. So we're showing a picture of that right here.

SPEAKER_03

Did you happen to witness that?

SPEAKER_02

They showed it on the on the jumbotron.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, here it is. We're we're playing it. If you're uh one of our uh YouTube Oh my gosh, that is so cute. Oh my god. Yeah, pure James.

SPEAKER_02

I love those kind of stories. I love that. It is.

SPEAKER_03

By the way, you know, when the when the players um you know, when they toss their sticks up into the crowd or they um, you know, toss some of their equipment up into the crowd, um, do they have to pay for that stuff? Hi, Steve.

SPEAKER_02

Well, no. No, the uh the team pays for all that stuff, it's all part of their deals, and you know they they have uh unlimited resources. As many sticks as they want to go through, they go through. Some guys change sticks every period, some guys change them every game.

SPEAKER_03

And they're not using Christian Brothers or Sherwood wood hockey sticks.

SPEAKER_02

Those are those are four five hundred dollar sticks. And the cool thing that I love is if you come to a wild game, uh preseason, regular season playoffs, it doesn't matter. It's become a thing to get there early, and and especially if you've got young people. Like Saturdays, the game four we're gonna have is a 430 start. So you're gonna see a lot of families there. So they they align the lower, I don't know, six, eight, ten, twelve rows of the bowl for warmups. And all these kids bring these signs, and they have the most creative ways to try to get a sticker and a pock. And I'm talking, they they they tape these candy bars to the placards, they play uh taper rock scissors. I mean, they got all this crazy stuff, and there's signs everywhere, and the guys are great at picking up on that. Um, and so I I think if you're looking for kindness and you're looking for some of those oxytocin moments, um, come to a wild game a little earlier, just watch one-ups. It's uh it'll make you feel good.

SPEAKER_03

Who is the most forthcoming? Like who engages with the crowd the most? Give us a name or two.

SPEAKER_02

I would say Marcus Felino's at or near the top of that list. He's uh seems like a hell of a tune with the fans. He's such a good guy. And then probably um, well, when he was here, Marc-Andre Forey was that guy. Like he was at the top of that list. And then maybe now um looking at some of the younger guys, I would I would probably go with a guy like Brock Faber. He's in tune with that. Jake Middleton's great at stuff like that. Um, they're they're really good about engaging with the young fans. And I, you know, you know, think about Brock Faber. He was coming to Wild Games himself as a kid, and I know you guys have seen the picture, but Brock, Brock was a college student in row one when Capri Soft scored a hat trick, and Faber's pounding on the glass in his gopher sweatshirt, and now they're like best of friends, teammates, whatever. And Brock's almost as big a superstar as Carillo, and that was like five years ago.

SPEAKER_03

And Brock looks with the when he wears his glasses, he looks like he should be going to the library, not to the hockey rink.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_03

I love him.

SPEAKER_04

He's amazing. Did you guys see the movie Rockstar? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Do you remember the concept of Rockstar is a super fan becomes the actual Mark Wahlberg. Yes. That's exactly what he was.

SPEAKER_02

That's a great movie, by the way. Jennifer Armiston. Yeah. Come on now.

SPEAKER_03

Yummy.

SPEAKER_04

And Brock Faber became exactly right. Yes, he he was on the sidelines and then got to sing along and then jumped in, and now look at him.

SPEAKER_01

And his nickname is Quinnisota?

SPEAKER_03

No, that's that's Quinn Hughes. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Why would Brock Faber's nickname be Quinnisota? I don't know. You know what, Jeff?

SPEAKER_04

I'm with you, Jeff. There's no logic there.

SPEAKER_03

Here's what we're gonna do. We're not gonna let you talk during our sports.

SPEAKER_01

I will I will say KG, I was reflecting on some of your the stories last uh the during the last episode, and I was reminded of Billy Bean and and you were talking about how they feed the players well in Minnesota Wild, and I almost I couldn't chime in because John was hogging it. But uh do you remember the scene in uh in Moneybell where you said don't don't pay don't pay for the Coke or uh you know don't charge them for the pop machine? So it was you know that was that was my that was my contribution.

SPEAKER_02

That movie is a look kind of behind the curtain at the opposite of what I was telling you about the Minnesota wild. I've worked at that stadium uh where the Oklahoma's used to play baseball, and it was so outdated, so um unkept. I mean, the the twins have told stories in the visitors' clubhouse of the toilets overflowing, and then some of that that water from the toilets or whatever was in the water being in the dugout. Like it is horrific.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, water runs.

SPEAKER_02

One of my favorite parts of that movie is when when he comes in the clubhouse after a loss and they're dancing, they've got the tune box going, and he shuts that thing down and says, you know what? Dance parties don't happen after losses. You guys need to I love that scene. That's the power of the good one. Wait the hell up. Like, you guys are not gonna sit here and party after you just go out there and get beat on the baseball field. I thought that was interesting. Um, that's a great movie. I that's another one I love. Moneyball is awesome.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, uh one last uh Brock Faber comment. Have you ever seen him in a pair of shorts? He has got quad, he is quadzilla. I know. My God. He looks like it is amazing. There was a video of him tree trunks. Huge, huge and you know, like when he's just standing there with his glasses on, like I said, he looks like a guy, like a librarian. And he's just like wild. Anyway, enough about his quads and I mean now that we've talked about Quinn soda Faber. I I have a comment to make. Yeah, yes, Steve. I welcome.

SPEAKER_04

Uh well, yeah. Thanks for having me down here. I came in a little late here. I jumped into sports, sports side, you know, the sports side. You go you're attacking poor Jeff. I just want to say Mr. Gorg, you actually cut a good image here in this photo. You look like a young Walter Cronkite. He does. He does. He does. Very official. And that's the way it was. Very 60s newsman. Do you know what we're talking about, KG?

SPEAKER_02

Every time I hear and think of Walter Cronkite, it takes me back to November 22nd, 1963, when he pulls the glasses off.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, the Brock Faber glasses off.

SPEAKER_02

The official time of death for President uh John F. Kennedy, one of the greatest uh conspiracies ever um impressed upon the great people of the United States of America. I was just down at Daley Plaza, and I'm telling you right now, every time I go there, I'm reminded of just how asinine that theory is that Lee Harvey Oswald did that by himself. Here's what we're gonna do. I respect who's involved, but please don't ever try to tell me he did it by himself.

SPEAKER_03

So here's what we're gonna do. Every once in a while, I think we should have an off j just address things that we need off topic. We don't always have to be kind of because we've got important things to talk about. Like how we have opinions. Yeah, how about all of the scientists down from the uh the jet propulsion lab and uh from Los Alamos in New Mexico disappearing? Jeff, you're aware of this, right?

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, I am. Yeah, I'm gonna be able to do that. You gotta you gotta do more than just this. Do you know who Bob Lazar is? He's the guy who worked at S4 in Area 51 back in. It was interviewed in 1988. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But I'll tell you what, he could tell you who's uh play who's uh in the third race at Del Rey Mar or Del Mar or wherever. What is that called down there?

SPEAKER_02

We're 11 days away from the 152nd running of the Kentucky Derby. So let's focus on Boulevard, Kentucky. No, get me back to these scientists. What do you mean they disappear?

SPEAKER_01

No, so at least 10 of them tied to sensitive U.S. research have died or disappeared in recent years. I didn't hear that either sparkling sparking a federal investigation. Do you not watch the news?

SPEAKER_04

Oh I don't watch certain news.

SPEAKER_03

It's too depressing. It's on it was on the Today Show.

SPEAKER_04

I don't actually I I don't I have to go to work today.

SPEAKER_03

I've taken time for today's today show.

SPEAKER_04

Wait, I had a okay, so we obviously that is off topic for our thing. And we do kind of stuff, but what about a conspiracy of kindness? Can we tie that in together? That's a topic idea.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, there could be a conspiracy of kindness. How about fake kindness? Like, you know, when people do all those charitable like um money schemes, those that's fake kindness, right?

SPEAKER_01

You mean like feeding our future? Yeah. Learing centers. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03

That's not very take this a lot of directions, this show. But what we are gonna do, KG, before you have to go to your next movie event. What is he seeing? We don't know what he's seeing. We think it might be Prince Revolution.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, yeah. So yeah, today is the 10-year anniversary of Princess Passing, which is hard to believe.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it is yeah. Um, so we had some great response. People enjoyed our game last year. What people? Who are you talking to? The people. So, like your kids. No, no, like people like it was with some Homery people last night. People that I didn't even know listened to the podcast. Wow. We're bringing up anecdotes and they said, Hey, like the game that you were playing. I thought that some of your responses were spot on. So we don't have a guest other than uh the four of us clowns right here. Yeah. Do you have any more questions? I do. I think that we need to explore this a little bit.

SPEAKER_04

I have a lot of them, and I actually those were kind of just surfacy. We get a little darker. A little deeper.

SPEAKER_03

Here we go. Keep the theme.

SPEAKER_01

You want me to replay the theme? Yo, hell yes. Yes, let's put the first second on top.

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Kindness comeback! Kindness comeback!

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Yes, that's right. Kindness comebacks coming to you live.

SPEAKER_04

We're all gonna get a little thrown into real life, annoying, awkward, and or just plain rude situations. And we've got about five seconds to respond with most of the most clever, disarming, kindness-empowered comeback we can come up with. No sarcasm, no cheap shots, just high-level kindness under pressure. Let's see who's got game. Okay. So the concept is we're all gonna go around. Yeah, let's start with KG. I'm gonna give you a uh this is for the people who are I don't have to go first. Right, okay. I gotta I gotta jump ahead here. We had some so uh did we did we get into yeah, someone forgets your name. Someone forgets you three times. Okay, that's where we stopped. You got interrupted three times, and you talked about how you'd handle that. Yeah. So now, Mr. KG. These are passive, these are passive aggressive moments.

SPEAKER_02

So oh, this is Minnesota 101.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, pretty much. So someone says, Wow, must be nice after you share something good in your life. That's just talking to John. I agree.

SPEAKER_02

I I mean I I would agree. Like, you know, like when I won the power trip golf bet, that's right. Roy McElroy came through for me, a couple of my co-workers were kind of sarcastically saying, Wow, must be nice. And I stopped and I said, You know what? It really was. It was a great Sunday. And I looked them straight in the eye. I said, Thank you for acknowledging that. Because more often than not, when you do the golf bet on the power trip, you end up Venmoing somebody else. So to get the Venmo sent to you, I gave them a nice, beautiful thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03

Awesome. What if somebody that wasn't picked won the tournament? Does the money go to the next one?

SPEAKER_02

No, it goes to the best score of the golfers, golfers that you drafted, but then the the price goes from 200 ahead down to 100 ahead. So it cuts your prize in half.

SPEAKER_03

That seems right.

SPEAKER_02

The next time there's a major, tune in on a Wednesday at 8 o'clock because it's it is a golf draft, but there's a lot of comedy involved. And Meat Sauce always wants Corey Cole to get screwed. And then this time, Meat Sauce got screwed. Everybody laughed at him, and Corey Cole was being funny. Like it's it's a bit. Like the whole thing is fun. You got Mark Rosen in there. It's a good little setting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And and uh Rory was your what pick was was Rory?

SPEAKER_02

No, again, Shuffler, Sheffler's the ghost, so he can't get picked. And it was the sixth pick after Sheffler, so technically the seventh golfer off the board. And as I said, when it came to be my turn, I can't believe none of you guys ahead of me took this guy, but why can't Rory win again? Like he loves the golf course. The pressure of finally getting the career grand slam has it's gone. Right. So why can't I why can't he win? And I mean, I know there's a bunch of guys that can win, but he had to be one of the two or three favorites. So I was very um very excited about that opportunity to pick him.

SPEAKER_03

So, but in a nutshell, your response is thank you. It is great to be me.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's a good approach.

SPEAKER_02

No, well, in a certain circumstance like that, I mean, yeah, I'm not gonna deny that it was wonderfully fun. I had a great off day in St.

SPEAKER_03

Load of dough. And two weeks, since you two tournaments in a row.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, first time that's ever happened. Uh I did cash on the players' championship. So now we've got the, I think in two and a half weeks, we've got the PGA championship, and now they're all mad. You know, they're all bitter. So now I'm sure they're gonna it'll be they'll be taking shots at me this time, not Corey or Meat Sauce, because they're they're upset that I've won two in our own.

SPEAKER_03

I'm fired. Hideki Matsuyama. Because I like to say his.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I like him.

SPEAKER_03

Hideki Matsuyama. Okay, next question.

SPEAKER_04

All right, this one's for Jeff. Okay. A friend, this is again, this is kindness comebacks. These are passive aggressive moments. Yeah. The kindest comebacks game. Jeff's up and he's gonna answer this one. A friend constantly shows up 20 minutes late and jokes about it. Yes. That guy or that person. How do you handle that, Jeff?

SPEAKER_01

I guess I just say great to see you. Glad you showed up. So you throw a little a little uh sarcasm by the way a little shade. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I might say, are we operating on mountain standard time? Oh, there you go. Oh mountain daylight time. Did you just move here from another state? Oh, maybe, you know what? Did you move your watch when we had daylight savings time?

SPEAKER_01

Or are you just saying you know we plan we we planned it a 30 minutes ahead of time just to make sure that uh some people in my family?

SPEAKER_03

KG, uh Mr. Hand, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, if you're here and I'm here, it's our time. Yeah, why are you why are you doing this to our time? Like pick a you know, if you can't get it a certain time, pick a time that you're gonna be there and I'll be there, but don't make me sit here every time. I I don't know if you can kill a kindness if it's consistently 15, 20 minutes late. I I find that to be a little disrespectful.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yes, it is. And actually, now you eventually just stop inviting that person.

SPEAKER_03

That kind of comes to especially when it really makes me start lying to them about when it's gonna start, which is what we do with some people in my family. Absolutely. My two, mine too.

SPEAKER_01

If it's a family member, if somebody that consistently does that, you just tell them the 30-minute time frame, knowing that they're gonna be 30 minutes late anyway.

SPEAKER_03

I could tell you that when we were on uh the trip to Italy, I am always on time. Oh, and it was constantly five minutes, we got the five-minute warning. Every single thing that we needed to get to. And there were certain members of our party that just, you know, they wanted to wait until the very last second. Yeah, I will tell you that Mrs. Schweitz, her goal is to be entering the plane just as they're closing the door behind. My wife could travel with her. You know what? I hate that. You know what ends up happening? You end up spending the next seven hours in the Delta Club because you miss your plane. That's true.

SPEAKER_04

I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that either. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, next question. Next question. This one's for you, John. Oh boy. Someone gives you a backhanded compliment. You actually look pretty good today. Oh man. Don't be that guy.

SPEAKER_03

You actually look pretty good today. You actually look pretty good today. I mean, there are so many different things that I can do.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you first have to be like, well, yeah, right?

SPEAKER_03

You have to be well, I well, I might say, Well, I showered. Or, you know, I decided to uh run a comb through my hair. Do you turn it back at him? Oh, for sure. I can't the whole no sarcasm. We're not the no. Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_04

But how do you handle it kindly? Um, even though they're coming at you with a little sarcasm. Is it possible? I guess that's the really thing. Is it even possible when they're coming at you like this?

SPEAKER_03

If they put the you're actually look nice today, that's a tough one to recover from.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty vindictive. I I I can't do this game. Yeah.

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No.

SPEAKER_03

You don't like that one.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, well, let me give you another one.

SPEAKER_03

There's no way to respond to that with kindness.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. Thank you. Well, and isn't the kind thing to do. If they're if they're giving you the backhand, don't you want to sort of teach them, you know, that wasn't very nice, and let them know that they should No, I wouldn't give them the no. Through your response.

SPEAKER_04

Well, uh okay, here's the thing. Could you say in reality, in reality, you are a jokester at your office. Let's just let's say you're at work and someone says that to you. Well, you're ready to jump on anything. If someone says that to you, that means they actually like you and they're being funny to you. Yeah. They they're they want to play.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Generally speaking, I would say it looks like it's time for you to update your resume. Oh, there you go. You know, so you have power over them. That's right, I do. He wields it. Okay. So now they can. Let me give you an example. I was at an event on uh Saturday. It was a banquet or Friday night, a banquet up in St. Cloud, and my friend Reed Endersby, who does a another podcast, a friend of ours, um, on my dinner ticket, he put me down as a vegan. What? Yep. He the little card that I had had vegan. Do you think he did a vegan stick? He did for sure. Okay. Because he's married to a vegan. Oh, he's referred to her as one of those weirdo vegan people. Oh, I love it. But it was dong in cheek. Yeah, you do it all the time. I took a picture of it. I texted to uh to read and I said, We'll see you in the HR office Monday morning. Yeah.

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Were you able to get your meat, or did you have to swap it out and eat vegan?

SPEAKER_03

I pushed a vegan down and took uh her meat. No, I I I was able to get what I needed.

SPEAKER_04

You don't sound like the kindest guy at your work, John. You're weaving your power over everybody sometimes. But they also know who you're gonna.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean it's always it's all in good fun, usually. Yeah most of the time. But what else you got? This is fun. I love these anecdotes.

SPEAKER_04

I'll give this one to you. Well, actually no, uh you didn't like that last one. No, give me a different one. Okay, here's another one for you. This is kind of similar. A co-worker loudly sighs every time you ask them a question. Oh no. Which is actually something you would do to someone, probably. But you're talking and they're saying they're cycling every time you ask them a question.

SPEAKER_03

I would ask if they have some sort of a uh a dietary matter, an issue. You know, uh did you not get enough sleep last night? Something along those lines. Am I boring you? It sounds like yeah, they they have a little bit of like uh like eye rolling, like this guy piano. You're not with us anymore.

SPEAKER_04

Oh you don't sound kind, don't no, I'm kind.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, I just renewed with the uh wooden sticks podcast. That's big fun. Yes, that is such good news. By the way, you're gonna have to have dinner with me or lunch with me one of these days, KG.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because we're we're gonna we're gonna join Tammy.

SPEAKER_03

That's right.

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Our sales act exact. She's great.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we don't need to promote Tammy on this podcast. You got her for years. What's the next question? Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_04

Do I look like Brock Faber with these glasses? Totally. Thank you. Except for the quads. You gotta hold bird legs. I gotta get bird legs. Um here was one for you, KG. This is okay, this is in the category of everyday frustrations. Oh, right? Um someone with 25 items jumps into the line. Oh no. The 10 items are less line in front of you. Oh now now, this isn't for you, John. So just save your frustration. This is uh everyday frustration for KG. How does he how does a KG handle that one? And say you are in the Twin Cities, so maybe people do know who you are. So you you how do you handle this kindly?

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's happened to me before a cub because they've got two different express checkouts, one for 10, one for 25. If I felt comfortable, I would probably say it's not a big deal. I'm not in that big of a hurry. But next time, you know, the the 25 item spot is over here, you're in the 10 spot item, and if it was somebody that could kick my ass, I wouldn't say a damn word.

SPEAKER_03

Or you could go Dan Barrero and say, uh, this is the express range, sir. You know, right? Isn't that a Dan Barrero thing?

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, he would get snarky for sure.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I What would you do, Steve? Well, I I think this is kind of thing when you witness people on the road and they they're you do something and they're trying to teach you. We're adults, you can't teach people. It's kind of like you can't teach someone. No, I think it kind of no, but they don't you can't teach them. So so I would be like, whoa, that's a lot of stuff. Or something like that.

SPEAKER_03

I would say, where'd you go to high school? And they would say, probably like Do I know you? North St. Paul or some public school, and I'd say, Clearly, we didn't get past the 10 digits when it came to the counting.

SPEAKER_04

Now, you have a way of doing that where they could get your life, they could see that you're joking, but some people wouldn't catch that. How do you handle what people are like you what if they turn into rage?

SPEAKER_03

If they turn into rage, I wouldn't I I would say, and clearly your meds are off.

SPEAKER_01

You could grab you could grab a basket because you're right by the checkout anyway. Just grab baskets and then redistribute the items and say, Okay, three separate transactions.

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Right!

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Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_03

That's a good one, Jeff. I feel like these are here. Let me help you out. Yeah, yeah, I like that.

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And you start counting with one foot.

SPEAKER_03

Of all the games that you've come up with, they're they're probably not kindness. Yeah, respect.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like we're just thinking of snarky things to do, but they're fun. All right. This is fine. Well, obviously, your Hill Marie gang likes this. We'll keep going. Yeah. Um, this is for Jeff. The person behind you is right on your heels in line, like uncomfortably close. How do you handle that with kindness, Jeff?

SPEAKER_01

Hmm.

SPEAKER_04

No matter where you are, you're just you're standing in line somewhere.

SPEAKER_01

It's like they're tailgating.

SPEAKER_04

They're breathing on your neck.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man, I think I just I think I just stop and say, God, that feels so good. Well, you want to you want to jump on? Either that or I could run really fast and then quick spin around and then catch him.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Are we dating now? Is that are we dating? How would you handle that, John? If someone really did.

SPEAKER_02

Buy me a drink first, something like that, right?

SPEAKER_04

A little too close. That's kind of the tough guy angle. What would you say?

SPEAKER_03

So I'm saying here's what I would do. Yeah. I would do like, do you remember when the close talker in Seinfeld got right up into Jerry's face and Jerry didn't back up? He stayed just right in his face. That's good. Like I would turn around and I would stand real close to their face like this and say, Hi, can I help you? Something along those lines.

SPEAKER_02

That was the guy from Fast Times Mm-hmm. Judge Reinhold.

SPEAKER_03

And they just had a nice conversation. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

That was good. Do you need a breath mint? That's a good one. Except when you face someone that close, it could it could look like aggression, but it's how you handle that, I think, is the key.

SPEAKER_03

Like you do it like Seinfeld did. That's right. He just had a big smile on his face, and he just was like face to face with them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I like that. Are we in a hurry? Maybe that would be the thing. We're in a hurry today, aren't we? That's a little. I'll get a ride. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Hey now. Do you want to wear my pants?

SPEAKER_04

Okay, uh KG. Yes. Someone blasts their phone on speaker. This is their phone in a quiet way. This is one of my biggest. They're watching a YouTube clip peeves. Or they're at the the car dealership and you're sitting next to them and they blast their phone with the video they're watching. How do you handle that? And it's a quiet space.

SPEAKER_02

It's one of my biggest pet peeves. That and when they're having like a phone conversation on speaker phone in the elevator, in the grocery store, and this has happened. And at first I always I kind of give a look, like you give them the look. Okay. You gotta give them a look, give them a chance to like recoup. And I'm like, finally, I would just say, hey, is there any chance you've got headphones you could use, or could you go to a different area? That's I don't feel like I need to hear everything coming out of your phone because it is honestly so rude. Like it is obnoxious.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. I have to I gotta push back on this one. Okay. Why do you do this? Well, let me explain.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

A couple of weeks ago, I'm at Wildwood Tavern with uh I just went there this weekend, by the way. Becky and I are at Wildwood Tavern. Wonderful. And we're talking to Jack on the speakerphone. Oh no But here's the deal What's the difference if he was sitting there with us or if he was on the Because the video sound is squawky and it's kind of annoying. It sounded exactly like he would have been sitting there, and the waitress came up and she said, Somebody was complaining. And I said, Who?

SPEAKER_02

Good.

SPEAKER_03

Right? Did you see that? I'm like, what's the difference if they're here or if they're not? I was pissed. Ah, I heard today. I understand. I understand why people, but it's like, you know, the people that were sitting behind me, and I think those were the people that were that were upset, they were talking so fucking loud. They were talking so loud. And I think that they were upset that we were talking loud. It's like that place is loud. Yeah, restaurants are loud. You know what? If you want to have a nice quiet conversation, go home. Well, yeah, that's not a quiet tricky one.

SPEAKER_02

I can see that a little bit more than an elevator. Elevators in a restaurant when they don't even know.

SPEAKER_04

They don't know. Yeah, your child could be sick and dying. They don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's not there. But here's the thing. They're not gonna be sitting there having dinner.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no. I mean, it depends on how hungry we are, right? No, I I that is that's a very tricky one. Um, normally I'd be like, no way, uh, but that's setting I can kind of understand it's your kid, and but there's something about that video sound that's it's not it's different than a vocal, just like a conversation uh in person. Yeah, there's a warmth about people's conversation.

SPEAKER_01

John, did you see that in 11 states they're banning cell phones in restaurants? I did see that's and I'm fine with that. That's what that that's a but that's kind of what they were doing to you.

SPEAKER_03

I know. I just I I I'm just I I was upset. Yeah, and I'm I'm over it. I get it. Maybe I'm not.

SPEAKER_04

You know, here's the thing maybe the restaurant didn't watch it, and they were just saying there's been complaints, but it's just them. They don't want to've been them.

SPEAKER_03

You're right. You know what? I'm wrong. It doesn't happen often.

SPEAKER_04

You ever been on a walk and people are playing their music from their phone loud with them?

SPEAKER_03

Like well, first the first question is have I ever been on a walk? So we're gonna go with a hard pass.

SPEAKER_04

No, you live in White Bears, a lot of beautiful places to walk. But you ever been like anywhere in the city or walking around and and someone's got their radio or whatever, their phone cranking music on them. Like, why are you doing that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I like when they play like the heavy rap music, and I say, Oh my god, that was our first song at our wedding. They're like, What? Yeah, that was the song that we played at our wedding.

SPEAKER_01

Sonny, come here. Let's do this.

SPEAKER_03

All right. Um, the police. That's you know right. Okay, we just got a couple minutes left because KG's got to get to movie night.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that's movie club.

SPEAKER_03

Movie clubs, all right.

SPEAKER_04

Should I give this last one to him?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Um, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Are you on the road right now?

SPEAKER_02

I'm I'm parked near movie club's location.

SPEAKER_04

All right. Think about this one as you start to move uh back on the road. A driver doesn't let you merge, then speeds up to block you. Oh.

SPEAKER_02

This just happened to me. What? That happened last week to me. How'd you handle this like a kind gentleman? I just gave him a I gave him a nice wave and a thumbs up. Um, you know, road rage makes me nervous. Um we've we've had some situations here. I know a couple years ago over in uh New Hope, a guy got cut off and yeah, and he I think gesture was his middle finger, and they ended up unfortunately getting shot. So I mean, you have to kind of, you gotta kinda, you kind of notwithstanding, you gotta kind of be careful there. And it did happen to me. I was merging, I had every right to merge. Person sped up, purposely cut me off. I'm like, saw that I tucked in behind. I gave him a little wave and a thumbs up and just said, all right, I'm gonna move on. It's not gonna be a jerk, I'm not gonna ride. Because sometimes then that you know, you you get the temptation to ride their tail because I'm not gonna be.

SPEAKER_03

By the way, Neil Ford, he's coming back. He's coming back.

SPEAKER_04

We're gonna we're gonna talk to him in a couple weeks. It's gonna be exciting.

SPEAKER_03

So I think this is episode 198. KG, you're probably gonna get Yogi Bear's granddaughter for episode 200 for us.

SPEAKER_02

That's what we're gonna do. That's the plan. Okay, that is what we're doing. She's on wooden stick. I knew we were saving it for a special occasion.

SPEAKER_03

That'll be KG disguising his voice as uh Yogi Bear's.

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Hello! Hello.

SPEAKER_03

All right, well, KG, you enjoy uh enjoy movie club. We're gonna shut this one down. It's been a delightful opportunity. Go wild tomorrow night. Oh my god, big fun. Enjoy the movie. I like these games. We need to do this more often.

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