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Ep 68: BioBus of the Future - The Work

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Today we are speaking to Latasha Wright, co-founder and executive scientific officer of BioBus, a science non-profit with a mission to support all students in acheiving their scientific potential. A real life version of the magic school bus, BioBus started as an upcycled 1974 transit bus, filled with microscopes, that brings science to students throughout New York City. The immersive experience of BioBus not only introduces students to asking questions and experimentation, but also challenges the idea of what science is and who does science. The curriculum of BioBus has also now expanded beyond the interactive bus-based experimental set up to also include community labs and junior scientist internship programs that encourage students to solve problems in their community using science. In her everyday life as an executive scientific officer, Latasha considers herself the manager of all managers. Her work touches on developing strategy for the organization as they expand, looking at equitable engagement with the community, integrating programs with what is already taking place in the community, and program evaluation as well as constantly finding ways to better teach science to students. “We are here to add the salt on top of something that’s already delicious,” explains Latasha. One of the more challenging aspects of her job is fundraising, which is common when it comes to running a non-profit. Her goal is to always make sure there are enough resources to support the organization and its mission currently, and into the future. The aspect of community is very foundational to the success of BioBus; many students walk away from their experiences with BioBus with a sense of belonging in a newfound accepting, scientific community. Latasha recommends that anyone who wants to start their own science non-profit should not go it alone–you need at least two kinds of people: a dreamer and a do-er. Check out the latest episode!

Tune into this episode to hear about Latasha’s work and:

  • How BioBus adapts its programming to the interests of the community 
  • What she learned as a graduate student starting a non-profit
  • Why she does not recommend starting a non-profit alone

Reach out to Latasha: 

Email: latasha@biobus.org

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latasha-wright-95bb7a16/ 

Book a BioBus visit: https://www.biobus.org/programs 

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Sometimes an idea is so unique you just have to stop and take notice. That's exactly the case with today's guest who turned an old 1974 beat up old bus into a mobile laboratory. Dr. Latasha Wright is the co-founder of Biobus, a nonprofit organization that helps K to2 and college students discover, explore, and pursue science. This was such a powerful conversation, Fatu. I heard about BioBus years ago. go. So, it was really great to learn more about it. What about you? 

I heard about it, too, but it was really nice to hear more about what they do and the impact that they have. What was your favorite part? 

Yeah, I really loved learning how much the organization is grounded in community. 

So, not just how cool science is and how fun science is, but also this is the science that's already a part of your community 

and this is how you can use science to make the community you love. so much even more wonderful. And she gave this really fun quote, right? It's like seasoning a dish that's already delicious. That was just so perfect. So, what was your favorite part? I really appreciated the link to the community as well. And not just in the way that they approach teaching science, but also in the broader impact to students, because for any student who goes through the program, they're building a supportive community that they can lean on for the rest of their lives as they move through their careers and that's just so powerful and we all know how important it is to have a support system. Right Shekerah? 

You're right. No one does it alone 

and with Bibus they don't have to. So let's listen and enjoy. 

What can you do with your love of science? We'll tell you. Hello. Hello everyone. Welcome back to another episode of your favorite podcast. We love science. We are your hosts. I'm Shekerah and I am Fatu. And today we're taking a ride, not on the Christopher train, but on the biobus. 

Nice. 

We like taking rides on this show. Apparently 

we do. Transportation. 

So our special guest today is Dr. Latasha Wright, who is the co-founder and executive scientific officer at BioBus, a nonprofit organization that helps K to2 and college students discover, explore, and pursue science, Latasha. We are so incredibly excited to have you on the show. Welcome. Welcome. 

Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here. 

Excellent. So, we're really looking forward to hearing more about your work at BioBus, but before we get into that, we like to warm up by talking about One of our favorite topics, which everyone knows by now, is food. 

Sound good? 

Sounds good. I'm ready. 

Yep. 

So, today's prompt is to describe a recent meal you had that was just so delicious. 

Okay. So, um I had a decad's party, like five or six people who are turning the next decade. So, um yeah. And so, I had a party with people who are turning 40 and who are turning 50, who are turning 60, and then turning 80. And so, yeah, we all got together and they were like, "Okay, so where should we go?" And then I said a restaurant and then somebody countered and they were like, "Let's do Vietnamese." And I was like, "Oh." Everybody was like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." And it was like I was like, "Oh." And I've never I didn't want to admit that I was the only one that never had Vietnamese before. 

What a treat for you. 

They're like, "This restaurant's so great." And I was like, "Okay." So, we went and it's a new restaurant in Union Square called Little song. 

Mhm. 

Fabulous. And so we sat down and I always asked the waiter. I was like, "What is good?" And of course he was like, "The whole menu." And I was like, "Okay, give me that." And we end up ordering like 10 dishes and everything was fabulous. And then at the end, I got to check because I was like, I want to know like what we ordered because I couldn't remember it. It was so delicious. 

And we had these little mixtures. It was like crab kind of shrimp. paste on sugar cane like it was like it was like a little I don't know little lollipop of goodness and you got to eat the sugar cane after 

and I was like it reminded me of being home cuz we used to eat sugarcane a lot in Mississippi so I was like you know I was like it was so good everything was delicious on that menu. So there you go. 

A little lollipop of goodness. I love that. 

Now I see why you were ready to jump into this with you like listen this meal I had was incredible. I love that. 

Yes, it was so good. Plus the company, the people, there was all these women who were talking about how their life is great and how they feel good about going into the next part of their life. So, it was great. 

I love that whole idea decades party, you know, 30s, 40s, 50s, like let's celebrate entering the new decade. I love that idea. 

Yeah. I'm entering a new decade this year. Also, I'm going to keep I'm going to keep it mysterious like Latasha and we'll just both say, you know, like we're entering our 20s. 

Who wants to do that again? 

Okay. What about you, Fatu? 

Yeah. So, um I was in Ethiopia recently for a business trip and I really generally like Ethiopian food, but one of the things that I ordered which I ordered twice cuz it was so good was this and of course I don't remember the name I should have kept the check like you Latasha so I can remember the name of it but basically it was like um iniraa which is like their type of like flatbread and and it has like a little bit of of like um um almost like a whole wheat like type flavor and then it came with collared greens which were done like really nicely and then something that was either like a bean or like a chickpea like lent type, you know, like mixture was super spicy and super delicious and it was just phenomenal. Like, you know, it was one of those things where I was like, I am full, but I need to find space for one more bite cuz I cannot leave this on the table. Yeah, it was so good. It was so good. I'll have to figure out what it was. But yeah, 

it also sounds super healthy. 

It like I don't hear any meat in there. 

No, no meat. So, one of the things that I realized when I was there is one of the hosts was telling me I think like Fridays and Mondays for religious reasons some people will do like even like vegan like they don't eat meat and I was like oh that's interesting so then they have these like vegetarian options like vegan options on the menu for people who are practicing that so that was really interesting 

yeah 

cool 

so what about you Shekerah you're going to have to top this we got two good food stories 

no pressure challenge accepted Okay, so I went to one of my favorite seafood restaurants around here 

um recently and it's one of those where I know everything what's on there, but I haven't tried everything that's on there. So, there are things that I always like to get and then I like to try different things. 

So, I got their black and swordfish this time. 

So amazing their chef. Oh my goodness. Bless your heart. Right. I mean, it's like perfect. ly seasoned on the outside, right? So, it's like blackened and grilled, right? So, it's like nicely seasoned and then the inside is so tender and juicy. Oh my gosh. It's like you take a bite and you just want to close your eyes and just enjoy all the flavors. Oh my goodness, Shekerah. 

I love seafood to start with, but yeah, their black and swordfish is amazing. And it came with baked potato and candied carrots. So 

wonderful. All in all, it was a wonderful meal. I would highly, highly recommend it. 

Great. Oh my gosh, I'm so hungry right now, ladies. This was excellent food talk. 

So, let's jump in. So, our guest today is Dr. Latasha Wright, who is the co-founder and executive scientific officer at Biobus. She spearheaded the creation of their very first biiobased community lab, the BioBus internship. trip program and their Harlem expansion and you said Latasha that BioBus enables you to share your love of science with a new generation of scientists which is so very important right 

so let's start simply with can you define for our audience what is biobus and what is your mission on a whole 

so we started out in 2008 and it was just like three of us thinking we wanted to make science more accessessible And so we bought a 1974 transit bus off of Craigslist, upcycled it, 

added some microscopes, and then we went around to schools and communities to teach kids about science. So basically it was like a field trip that came to you. So we would take the bus, pull up to a school, and kids could come down their normal science class and just do experiments with us. And so that's what we started off. So we still do that. That's like our main thing. Um, we have our 400 000 kids come aboard the bio bus in March. And so we've been to 800 schools and communities in New York City. But after doing that, starting to do that for a long time. Then of course people were like, "Oh, I want more. I want more." So then we started to really build our community labs. The first one is in the Lori Side and also we have one in Harlem. We have one now in Boston and we're about to build one in the Bronx. Um so the bus is there to spark interest and basically it's the most equitable thing we do cuz if we go there school and we're seeing all second graders, we're seeing everybody, not just the second graders who think they love science, but everybody in the second grade. And then that's an opportunity for people who thought that science wasn't for them to see science and be like, whoa, this is something I really like. And so once they find that this is something they really like, then they can come to our after school classes at our community labs. And then once they get into high school, sign up for our internships as high school students. And we really and on the near peer model so that our high school students help us to teach the middle school kids and also public events. So they have a bunch of you know they teach the whole family and so that kids can see themselves at every level. And of course you know us as practicing scientists so you can see the pathway of how to get into science and what scientists look like. And so we're trying to change the idea of what science is and who can practice science because we're thinking that science is not just in the ivory towers of Columbia and NYU but also like getting your hair done. is science. The email does science, cooking is science and so science is everything that is around us all the time and it's about the curiosity and asking questions. 

So that's at the center what bibas is. 

Thank you. Thank you. So your mission on a whole is to help students to basically discover science everywhere where it is. Right. Correct. 

And then see be able to explore and pursue a scientific path because they can see the path and they can see you. Right. So 

yeah. I love that. 

You got to see it to be it. 

You got to see it to be it. I I definitely see that. 

So, I know that you have some different programs and know you mentioned um second graders just now. You mentioned high schoolers. So, I know that you have some different programs in BioBus. Can you tell us a little bit about how you accomplish your mission through the different programs that you have? 

So, I guess our vision is that for all students to achieve their scientific potential that is either like to become a scientist or just like discover their love for science or be comfortable with science and to like I think we're building critical thinkers which is important in this time and also we're trying to restore the curiosity back for kids because we feel like the institution breaks down that and we also want the kids to understand that asking questions is what science is and so we are all of our programs are about inquirybased we're all like bringing our student voice and we do a lot of placebased science and so like If we are parked the bus in front of a school that has a garden, then we'll go in the garden and grab some stuff. So, and then look at the stuff from the garden. If we're going by the water, we might do some of the water. What's here in your water, you know, that you're looking at? And so the kids can say, "Oh, what's happening in my neighborhood is science and I can see that and I can apply that to my, you know, my everyday as well." And so definitely with our after school programs, we like definitely in Harlem, we think Lori science, we're thinking about food insecurity because there's a lot of community gardens there. And so we, you know, we are partner with them and go see the community gardens, do the soil, test the soil testing and things like that. And in Harlem, there's a lot we're by the, you know, the Hudson River. So we do go to the Hudson River and and take water samples out and look at the quality of the water and like microplastics and things like that. So things in the neighborhood, thinking about like how can we connect science in the neighborhood to our everyday life. 

Yes. Very cool. And so so important. Can you talk a little bit bit about the internship program that you guys have. 

I think the way that we are trying to incorporate our interns are like 50% of them have been on the bus or like been in our after school, but then we also have like 50% of people who haven't been uh exposed to a bus, they want to do it, but what they all have in common is that they really want to be exposed to science and they haven't had the opportunity to do it before. So this is like if you really want to be a scientist, you want to be exposed to science, then you can join one of our church programs. 

Mhm. 

And so we're looking for people with a passion for that. And so the interns come in normally during the summer and depending on what location they're at. We normally then do uh have someone from the neighborhood. We do a walk around the neighborhood and try to figure out like do you see any injustices that you want to use science to try to fight? And so it's interesting cuz we want them to like think about how they can apply science to the things in their neighborhood. And so then they come up with a project and like the summer, then they work on that project during the summer. So, one of the cool ones was last year was thinking about, you know, all the kids are really thinking about climate change and heat. One of the ones from the summer was looking at the bus stops and thinking about how can we make those cooler. And so then they built these little models and then tried to put green roofs on them to kind of figure out if that would affect the heat. And so those are some of the projects that they do during the summer. And then they're also with us during the year. And during the year they either continue their projects, but they also like I said, help us to teach our u community events as well. So, 

yeah, I love that. Just very relevant and applicable type of science that you're doing with them. That's really cool. 

Yeah. I was um also going to say, Latasha, I really love this model of um how to make science equitable that you mentioned as part of your mission. Um because I think there are so many students out there where, you know, if they don't have direct access to these things, it it just, you know, is not something that they would be exposed to. And having literally what you said, have the science come to you, you know, is such a clever way, I think, of just really giving um children that experience that might not, you know, be something that they would have normally been um exposed to. So, that's really cool. 

Thank you. 

So, we know that you co-founded BioBus. You told us a little bit of the story. We look forward to hearing sort of the whole BioBus journey in the journey segment. But can you talk a bit about what you do in your current role as the executive scientific officer? It kind of sounds like you plan all the science stuff that they do. Is that is that right? 

Well, so we so I think I'm I feel like I'm the manager of the managers at this point. So yeah, that's pretty much what's happening. Um and like yeah, so I'm just thinking about the the focus of like where we're expanding to different areas. and thinking about like where we should expand to different areas and making sure that you know quality control from all of the different areas to make sure that we're you know serving the community cuz we're also really interested in making sure that we're not coming to a community and being like hey we got the science you should like it instead of being like you know what do you need instead what what do you what is missing here and like also not in a deficit way but also in an assetbased way of saying, "Hey, what's happening in this community already and how can we join that or what can we add to what you guys are already doing or is there something that you need that we can provide?" Then that's the way that we want to approach our our work because things are already happening and you know um people are doing things organically that they may not know about. And so we're trying to like make sure that they understand that we're here to like add, you know, like the salt on top of something that's already delicious, you know, but a little little bit of seasoning. We're adding a little seasoning, that's all. You know, and like you know, sometimes you need that seasoning and that's what we're here for. Um, and so that's what we want to work with the community and like, you know, most of us like go to the community board meetings. I'm on the community board 

so we can understand what is happening in the communities and what are what are the basic primal needs for that. And so we're trying to get make sure we have that two-way conversation. And that's what I do is kind of monitor that to make sure that that's happening. And also just making sure that our evaluations I kind of make sure that that we are evaluating our programs and that we are also looking for better ways to teach and better ways to make science more accessible. That's what I'm that's kind of my job. 

Yeah. So cool. I think one thing that I'm hearing so much from you is that focus on community. Yeah. 

Right. And I love that it's not just about this is science and science is so cool and you can do so much with science, but it's like here is what how we can help your community. We can uplift your community. We can, you know, put the salt on, you know, on something that's already delicious. I love that statement, you know, I love that you can really enhance it in plants. And so, I love that focus on community first. I think that's really important. 

Yes. 

I really also like that. Um, adding salt to something that's already delicious. That's such a good thing. I think I know that's a wonderful You need the seasoning. You need the salt. 

That's right. 

All right. So Latasha, I I love hearing the passion in your voice for what you do. Can you tell us what you love most about what you do? 

I think what I love most about what I do is that I feel like we're very impactful. I feel like every time I go to one of our programs and I see it, for instance, I just went to a program on last Thursday. It was us and other nonprofits kind of showcasing our work and then the kids were like, "I don't want to leave my list. I don't want to leave my list. I don't want to leave. And I'm like, ah, you know, 

I'm not the best, but the evidence is there. 

Love it. 

You know, evidence is here. I don't even got to say nothing. I just got to be like, "Oh, wonderful." 

Yeah. And I'm like, "Yeah, that's me, baby. That's me. That's me over there." You know? 

Yeah. It's like I love that. And like the kids are so nice, so we had compost, you know, and then they had worms and so they could look at it under the microscope. First the kids are like, "No, stom back." And then once next thing you know, they're like digging in it, looking up and they're like holding the worms. It's fun. I really love to see that that oh, I don't want to touch it to like, you know, we've had kids try to put the worms in their pockets so they could take them home. I'd be like, "Empty your pockets right now." 

They have worms on their pockets and it's funny. Yeah. And I love that. you know, but this discovery of like New York City kids loving the dirt, you know, so I love that. 

Yeah, that's just so wonderful to be able to really see it, you know, like the impact that you have right there on the spot. I'm sure that's such a fulfilling feeling in your work. 

Yeah, definitely. 

So then, what do you find most challenging about your work as part of a nonprofit and running a nonprofit and everything that comes along with that? 

Yeah, 

funding. I'm sure every nonprofit this is every project that comes on is the same is definitely because you know profits are you know we are dependent on funding to make sure that we can continue to do our work and I would love to win the lottery so we can just like fun in New York City for that but of course like the challenging part is like making sure that we have sufficient funding and like all different funding sources and also you know both me and Ben Uh we're graduate students and they didn't teach you how to run a a nonprofit in graduate school. 

And so we did a lot of, you know, flying the plane while building it at the same time. 

Yeah. Learn on the go. Yeah. 

Learn on the go. And you know, so I don't I think that, you know, of course, you know, we've made mistakes of course during the way, but like I'm proud of where we are at this point. So 

yeah, so that's it's just learning how to run an organization and And so we are now like from a small to medium organization what it looks like and making sure that you know we have enough money to sustain it for even after we're gone kind of deal. 

Right. Yeah. Yeah. So do you do a lot of that work still finding the the funding and Yeah. 

Yeah. That's like half my job. 

Half your job. Yeah. 

Yeah. So me and men are like half you know both half of our job is is fundraising for the organization. Yes. 

Yeah. Right. Gotcha. So I want to just ask about um the point that you made where it's kind of like, you know, you started this as grad students and at that time, you know, you're not really taught to run a nonprofit, but um you guys learned on the fly, which is great. Um but are there, you know, like any skills that you felt from your time as grad students like you were really able to apply to this? 

I think being able to learn how to fly is a skill you learn in grad school. 

Yeah. 

I think the main skill is multitasking and being be able to prioritize what is important right now. I learned that a lot in in um grad school and I noticed that that's a trait that is very transferable to this work. You know, that's one of the things that they're very strong in is multitasking cuz you're like, I got to set up this jail. I got to do this culture and be out by 5 so I can meet my friend and help me out. You know, multitasking is one. And also networking and also being able to tell the story because like you can do a lot of great work, but if you can't tell the story 

then people you're not going to be able to get funded for it, right? So 

like and you know most of grad school is about taking your like one piece of jail data and being like this is the story this is why this is important you know cuz everybody loosely works on cancer when it comes down to those I'm writing the grants you know 

it's like trying to be able to figure out how to like take what you have and make it into a believable and also compelling story that's also from graduate school. 

Great. Wonderful. 

So, what feedback has Biabus received um you know from the community from students who've gone through the program and how can we in the community help your mission? 

I think that what the students really say is they have they have a sense of belonging. They have feel like like it's important for us to instill a sense of belonging to the students. So, that's important. And also making sure the science is relevant to them and there's those are things that are super important and also we feel like we're building a community here. I think that's the most important thing that BioBus offers is being able to have the sense of community like of like-minded other students who may not go to the same school as you cuz you may be the isolated nerd at your one school but if you go come to five of us then you have like all these nerds who are doing their thing you know 

and so you feel like you belong here and also with a lot of kids when then go on to college and they're having, you know, like a lot of BIPO students also have a hard time during their first year and then they can come back. We have like a lot a really strong alumni base and they can come back and talk to their peers about the things that they're having or also talk to us about like oh this is happening to me and then we can kind of help them through those those like tough times that they're having. So I think that that's really important because like when I was in graduate school I was like you know I didn't understand the power of having a network and when I first got here and then once I got that network and then I saw how I could excel quicker, faster, more when I had that network, I wanted to be that network for other people as well. 

Yeah. 

So, I think that that's the real power of bio is like having those connections because everybody at BBUS has a connection to a lot of different people and are willing to share it with the the students that we have incorporate into our community. So once you become a part of this community then you have a huge network of scientists and other people who have like networks of people who are willing to share it with you. 

And I think that that's important is we're building that community 

for people of color and other BIPO students. And also the community, we want to hear from the community about how Bus can be like a trusted source 

where in this time of uncertainty, we want to be like, you know, a trusted source within the community. And so we will love obviously love community support and If you have some extra dollars, you can always donate. 

Excellent. Thank you. Thank you so much. So, I love that, you know, support system that you're building and, you know, if they take biabus with their peers, they get to know people who are sort of going through science with them and then people who are at a higher level than they are too, the high school students who teach the younger students, right? So, they're building this support network like you said and that is so so so important. So, I love that. Thank you so much. 

You're welcome. 

So, then Latasha, what advice would you give to someone who wants to start a science-based nonprofit? 

I think it's hard to do it alone, but I think if you can find the right partner, like it was three of us that kind of started it and we all accent each other, you know, because we need someone who's like a visionary 

and someone who will get s*** done and someone who can be in the middle to bridge that gap. 

And that's what and like of course you may change that role may go around different people at different times, but like I think that even if it's two of y'all, you need someone whose head is in the clouds and someone whose feet are on the ground. 

I love that. I love that. That is such good advice. Wow. Wow. And it's not what I expected you to say at all, but I could see how important it is, right? Like you definitely need someone who's like the big dreamer and then someone's like, "Okay, how are we actually going to get this done?" 

So, I love that. So, to have people who, you know, your strengths play off of each other, 

right? So, 

that's wonderful. 

Yeah, I like that. 

All right. So, we're going to finish up the work segment with a little game. Hosts on the hot seat. where you got to do the circle. 

Yes. 

Where you Latasha get to quiz us. So, one or two simple questions about your field or work, whatever you'd like. Fatu, are you ready? 

Born ready. Let's go. 

Born ready. Fatu has been whipping my butt so hard. 

I have. Anyhow, 

so Latasha, what do you have for us? 

Ready? 

Ready. 

Okay. How many students have been on the buy a bus. 50,000, 100,000, 300,000, or 400,000. Um, Faty, you go first. I think it's 400,000. 

Correct. Oh, 

correct. 

Oh, man. But it's okay cuz I would have lost. 

Reigning champion. You are. You are 

reigning champion. Okay. The Other thing is, does Vivas have a community lab in Boston? 

No, you don't. I think you do. 

No. 

What's your answer, Latasha? 

Okay, so you both were kind of right. Okay. Actually, we have a team in Boston. 

Oh, you have a team in Boston? 

We're We're working on the community. Okay, 

that was a trick question. So, it's yes or no. I like to be Trixie. I'm a Trixie person. I like to be Trixie. 

I like that. 

Thank you, Latasha. 

Pu gets another championship. Good lord. 

Congrats. Congrats. Congrats. 

I need to start winning actual prizes, I feel. 

Okay, we're gonna we're gonna have to talk about this. surprise thing. 

Don't worry, I will send you a Bible sticker. How about that? 

Oh my gosh, Latasha, thank you so much for talking with us today. It was a pleasure hearing all about your work with Biobus. 

Thank you. 

So, before we jump into the journey segment, can you please share how people can reach you if they would like to? 

Sure. My email is latasha@biobus.org and I'm on LinkedIn. under Latasha Wright and if you want to book a bio bus visit is uh our website is bibbabus.org/programs and that's the way you can uh get the bioabus to come to your school. 

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