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Join Cheryl Lee - That Radio Chick on STILL ROCKIN' IT for news, reviews, music and interviews with some of our favourite Australian musicians.

Imagine grappling with a 15-year-old laptop while pondering the durability of things from yesteryear. Legendary frontman Angry Anderson joins us to share his humorous insights on technology, comparing himself to the old appliances that just keep going. Join us for a nostalgic ride through Angry's personal history, as we trace his journey from childhood in Melbourne to the exhilarating life of a rock musician on tour. You'll hear about his upcoming performances, with stops at iconic venues like California's Whiskey a Go-Go, and his reflections on sharing the stage with legends such as ZZ Top and George Thorogood.

But it's not all rock and roll tales; we dive into the transformative power of music when faced with life's challenges. Angry opens up about overcoming childhood trauma and the importance of addressing emotional health issues early on. Listen as he shares how music became his saving grace, channeling emotions into creativity and advocating for others to find their own paths to healing. His story of resilience is a reminder of the enduring strength found in both rock music and the human spirit.

Rounding out our conversation, we explore the origins of Angry's musical journey, from his first band to joining Buster Brown, and how fate led him to become a singer. There's excitement in the air with new music releases and plans to welcome back former band members. Angry also fondly recounts the joy of reconnecting with old friends and the thrill of creating new music. Whether you're a long-time fan or just discovering the world of Rose Tattoo, this episode promises a blend of heartfelt stories, musical insights, and the timeless energy of rock and roll.

What have Angry Anderson and Rose Tattoo been up to lately?  Let's find out!!

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Cheryl Lee:

That Radio Chick Cheryl Lee here. Welcome to the Still Rockin' it podcast where we'll have music news, reviews and interviews with some of our favourite Australian musicians and artists. Today we catch up with Australian music legend, Rose Tattoo's frontman and founding member, Angry Anderson. We're going to do things slightly different this time due to two factors. One, Mr Anderson does love a chat, over an hour in fact. And two, technology is fabulous until it's not.

Cheryl Lee:

I won't bore you with details, but due to catastrophic hard drive failure here there's a huge backlog of editing, so for that reason this episode is naked and uncut. It's a long one, just Angry and I chatting on the Zoom warts and all. He's an amazing Australian treasure and if you want to hear all about his exploits, both musical and philanthropic, you can listen to our first podcast chat a few years ago. Or if you want to watch this whole thing, go to the YouTube page Still Rockin' It That Radio Cheryl Lee and see the whole chat in the zoom room. Or else just grab yourself a cuppa and let's get started to find out what angry anderson is up to now. To catch up on podcasts from other favorite artists, simply go to that radio chick. com. au hello sorry I just had to have a quick wee break.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, that's fine, thank you. Yes, lovely, I just recently had one myself. But anyway, having said that, yeah, I was just saying to the youngster, I think I have to bite the bullet and admit that this laptop, I think, is just about ready to chuck it in.

Cheryl Lee:

Time for some new technology, is it?

Angry Anderson:

Well, yeah, it's apart from the fact that you know when some of your keypads start to go. You know which happened some years ago. I might add.

Cheryl Lee:

Well, it's done. Well, I think you've got your money's worth by the sound of it.

Angry Anderson:

Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. You know my son would know, but it's at least 15 years old.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, that is pretty ancient in the land of computers. Yeah, so it would seem.

Angry Anderson:

But I am loathe to. I'm one of those people that was brought up like if you pay a certain amount of money for something, you expect it to last forever.

Cheryl Lee:

Anyway, yeah, like the old fridges used to do. You know the old fridges? They had outlasted all of us.

Angry Anderson:

You know, one of the funny things, funny, you should mention that my brother inherited it because he lives in Melbourne. Well, he doesn't anymore, he's passed. But anyway, having said that, it was the first real fridge that we bought when I because I grew up in Melbourne and I remember Mum had a, like many people did in our street or our area we had ice delivered and it went into a well, I call it an ice box. So the ice went in the top part, yeah, yeah, so every, I'm not too sure, maybe a week or maybe every three or four days or something, but because the water would seep down, it was, like, you know, some sort of irrigational type situation and it would end up in the bottom. So, yeah, and Mum, like others in those days, she used to because, as the water went down, of course it was still cold. Yeah, and cold, you know, as you know, travels down. But yeah, and then we got this fridge right and it had the round corners on it.

Cheryl Lee:

Yes, was it a Kelvinator.

Angry Anderson:

Oh, probably, yeah, a Kelvinator or a Westinghouse or something, but it had that big handle, yep. And yeah, my brother inherited it from when Mum married again and moved on, you know. Yeah, so because I love that, well, we all love that fridge, because it was just that. And mum, you know, religiously, like women did in those days, I still do it. I still do it to this day. I clean the fridge like twice a month. I take everything out, because I've got a back fridge like a bar fridge yeah and I take everything out and clean it inside and out, so it's spotless.

Cheryl Lee:

You're good, you want to come to my house.

Angry Anderson:

I'd make someone a good wife, you will. My kids have often said to me yeah, so where are you? By the way, Sorry. Where are you? Oh, I'm in.

Cheryl Lee:

Adelaide. I was going to ask you where are you? Are you nowhere near these fires?

Angry Anderson:

No, no, nowhere I live. Do you know Sydney at all? A little? Well, there's the northern beaches. Yep, yep, I live on Beacon Hill, which is the highest physical point in the Sydney metropolitan area, and if you go directly to the coast, our beach is cool, cool. So there's manly fresh water and then cool, cool Nice.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, I was just going to say. A lot of back rooms and men's sheds still have those old fridges because they just never die, do they no?

Angry Anderson:

They're like old rock and rollers. They refuse to exchange. Someone said to me I don't think she meant to be unkind. She said do you ever feel like you might have overstayed your welcome? And I said, if I did feel that way, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, that's right.

Angry Anderson:

But she was at least honest enough. She said look, I'm too young to remember when you started and all that. I realise it's nearly 50 years and you're ready to retire and all that kind of stuff. And she said but I've read a little bit about the band. She said it's fascinating what I've read. And I said well, you know, like most bands, if not all bands, it's been a real journey, like I mean, I've been in the band or I've been the only singer in the band anyway, so more than half my life.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, oh, absolutely. And I was just going to say before we start chatting about the ongoing tour at the moment and the special things coming up, what is this Monday morning business angry? At this time of day? This is not very rock star hours.

Angry Anderson:

Well, yeah, no, it's funny about that. I've just got to go and turn this radio off, okie dokie. When I got home from yesterday we drove home because we're in New South Wales, because you know we only work Friday and Saturday these days, and yeah, so you know it's Monday's washing day. It's also, you know, the domestics like because I went away for a weekend, so the kitchen looks like a fucking bomb in it.

Angry Anderson:

But anyway, having said that, apart from the Saturday and possibly the Sunday morning, I made it my habit years and years and years ago when I was training and stuff, because I spent so many years of you know, some time ago, you know not getting up until like lunchtime, you know, and I thought, well, if there's going to be this you know, seismic shift, we might as well go all the way. So I decided that I was going to make changes, in the sense that I was going to have new experiences.

Cheryl Lee:

And better health wealth. Well, there's that as well, yeah, absolutely Sorry go on.

Angry Anderson:

Well, apart from Friday, you know, after the gig there's a bit of drinking done. Saturday the same. But you know we it's funny, you know, because, uh, in relation to having to get up to travel home on the sunday, usually, um, yeah, we sort of pretty much take it so it's kind of friday's our party night and um, because we're all the same, you know, we're all the same, we're all the same.

Cheryl Lee:

I was scared.

Angry Anderson:

I was going to sleep through the alarm. Anyway, here we are. Mine goes off at five and if I haven't woken up before that, you know, for obvious reasons, five, you know I'm b.

Cheryl Lee:

if I'm, you know I'm being um that's it, but then again I'm, I'm in bed by like eight.

Angry Anderson:

Oh okay, yeah, I like to go even even earlier sometimes because I like to read what does it say?

Cheryl Lee:

uh, early to bed, early to rise, mate, yeah something healthy, wealthy and wise that's it very good now. Um, we last spoke. Can you believe it? It's nearly three years ago now, so it's about time we sat down and had another chat, isn't it right, oh?

Angry Anderson:

yep, yeah, I just. I'm just asking you over your left shoulder?

Cheryl Lee:

Yes, yes, there's a series of multicoloured clocks or radios. Yeah, well, a couple of them are radios. Oh okay, the big ones are radio and the little little itty-bitty ones are radio. The big ones are radio and the little little itty-bitty ones are radio. The others are biscuit tins that look like radios, the old-fashioned radios.

Angry Anderson:

Really.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, I just loved them, plus I felt, like some biscuits, absolutely. I mean bonus bonus, I know right, yeah, no, they're cute, aren't they?

Angry Anderson:

They are, they're really cute. I was saying I've got my original transistor radio. I've kept it all these years because it was my first real personal, you know, because transistors were, you know the thing, in those days they were new and obviously they were new, and because I remember having like a crystal radio, which was they were big in those days, and I had a. Later on, when I was working, I bought myself a small like a bookcase-type radio, dark brown in colour, you know. Yeah, and it was amazing. You know, it was run by valves and at night, particularly at night, I could tune in. I had a wire going out the window and going up what was called the stink pole and was scratched a bit of paint off and wound the aerial so it was quite high on the roof, wound the aerial, so it was quite high on the roof and especially at night I was able to tune it very, very delicately and I could get like any place in Australia but I used to get like Radio Moresby, port Moresby. I used to get, you know, asiatic countries.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, well, my husband's from country Victoria. That's just the reason I asked about the fires, because we've lost two houses. Luckily, both of them are empty and we nearly lost an inhabited one yesterday, inhabited by his 90-year-old mother. But he says exactly the same thing. When he was a lad, he did exactly what you did with the wire and you could get forever.

Angry Anderson:

Well, it goes to show. You know, it's like one of those crazy things, crazy contradictions, I call them. I remember years ago when I was doing television and we went out, we did a couple of, we did a program after midday with ray yep um, he moved on to current affair and I moved on with him and we were given this idea for a program called the challenge.

Angry Anderson:

and um, we went out and it took on seemingly impossible or extremely difficult challenges, and you know, because television could get things done because of the persuasion of exposure and all that kind of stuff. And we did two over those years. I think we did challenge for about six or seven years. And we did Challenge for about six or seven years and we did two Challenges One was for Farmhand and the other one was a government initiative to do with farming. So during the first one we did was during the drought and we organised a train full of food and fodder for animals et cetera, and we started in Melbourne, victoria, and the train went all. It was the largest train ever assembled and it was so long and so heavy.

Angry Anderson:

it took four diesel drivers, two at the front, two at the back, pushing and we went all, all the way into into Queensland to a place called Texas, which is just over the border. But anyway, having said that, I found out a lot of stuff about farming on the way. You know, because we did a lot of research et cetera, and it shows you how not always the right decisions are made, but you know analogue farms.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

I remember talking to a farmer and we were out the back of bum-fuck, nowhere like really really out out. It was a sheep farm and um and uh, you know he had a, an analog. Well, the only phones around in those days were analog. And when it years later, um, we knew it was going to change to digital and he said, you know, like a lot of things the government do, it doesn't make any sense in the reality, he said, because analogue can go through mountains.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

So there's no loss of signal. You know it's a penetrative thing, it's just like it's just all pervading. So it's fabulous service everywhere in the in the country, doesn't matter how far out from you know like, because it's just that system. Yeah, they change to digital and we still, to this day, haven't got it right no, oh, absolutely not.

Cheryl Lee:

I work during the day. Normally I'm working from home. When the internet goes down, we can't do anything, even make a phone call, our phone, the internet, everything we do is internet and we just can't do a thing. Yeah, yeah, we need to, needed to have kept one of those old analog phones.

Angry Anderson:

Well now, now what I? Yeah, I actually kept a box full of them, like every phone I ever owned, and it got to.

Angry Anderson:

I don't know maybe you know, like probably four, five, six, seven, eight phones like all different sizes and shapes, like there was a flip phone, you know there was one about that big, you know, like about the size of two matchboxes. They got smaller and smaller and smaller. Now they're going back the other way. They're getting bigger. I saw a lady at the mall the other day and she had my laptop. It was about it'd have to be half the size laptop, ipad, like that's pretty much a normal size, you know iPad, and it would have to have been, yeah, half the space of it. It was huge, a young Maori woman and you know it. Just yeah, it was just incredible. Anyway, let's get into it.

Cheryl Lee:

Righto. So yeah, like you said, the band was formed in 1976, so you've got your 50th anniversary next year. Yes, Any big plans for celebration?

Angry Anderson:

Well, it's the end of the band for a start, so that's. I wouldn't call it a celebration, but there'll be a wonderful wake that I think will be held over a series. Well, we plan to have it over a series of days. I mean we will tour as extensively as we can in the first half of the year. In the middle of the year, of course, we'll go to Europe for about four, maybe six weeks and do a farewell there. There's a promoter in America who's desperately trying to get some way around the ridiculous costs involved that have come about in the last gee within, well, since the plague.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

For some reason, all the prices for visas et cetera and all the paperwork's gone through the roof. So it's made it very, very difficult for us to afford to do that process. But we'll definitely do Europe. I think we're doing five or six countries from what I've heard. Awesome, yeah, so that's kind of a usual tour for us.

Cheryl Lee:

Well, I thought this one was this current one was big because, like you say, you're in the throes of it. You've worked last weekend, I've got all your dates here. You're going everywhere, man including. So we've got two more in Australia and then, is this right, You're going to California to Whiskey and Coco.

Angry Anderson:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yes, that was supposed to be a secret. No, I don't mean in reflection to what you've said, because the news got out weeks ago and the yeah, really, so you're off the hook there. So, um, yeah, what happened was that um, um, the guy that runs um whiskey, a go-go, um, has been desperately trying to get us to go there. And, uh, we're going over to florida, or I think it's out of orlando. I'm not sure we land in orlando, but out of Florida. There's a thing called Monsters of Rock. It's a rock heavy rock cruise.

Cheryl Lee:

Oh, yep, yep.

Angry Anderson:

And through the I was corrected. Yeah, because I remember saying to a podcaster I said, oh, yeah, we're coming. This is some years ago. We're coming over to do the Monsters of Rock cruise through the Caribbean and he said, wow oh yeah, we pronounce it Caribbean. I went, oh yeah, whatever you know, like I'm from Melbourne.

Cheryl Lee:

I say dance.

Angry Anderson:

You know what I mean. Yeah, Newcastle, Anyway. So I stand corrected, the Caribbean, which is far more exotic and romantic sounding. You know the pirates of the Caribbean, you know all that shit. So, yeah, we'll go over and do that. Anyway, he heard we were coming and he said and we always stay in Los Angeles for a couple of days to rehearse and to meet the crew and all that kind of stuff, you know. And so the organisers used to do a couple of nights at the Whiskey before we go on this cruise, Nice.

Cheryl Lee:

Lucky day.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, absolutely, we've done the cruise a few times and it's, you know, I mean I like cruises, I mean it's just the whole romantic thing about being at sea. You know all that shit.

Cheryl Lee:

I like it too. I love cruising. Some people don't like it, but you know I'm with you. It's a great holiday. Unpack once, go everywhere pools, spas, massage, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, and one of the guys in Ronnie Simmons who's playing guitar with us he's played with when he was living in Los Angeles. He lived there for 10 years before he came back to join the band a couple of years ago and he so last time we did the ship, one of his old his bands that he played with was on the ship and the bass player, who's a real ladies' man, you know, he says he himself is a bit like most of them. Do you know like and why not? I mean, you know it's part of the experience Rock and roll. He said yeah, he said the great thing about being mean.

Cheryl Lee:

You know it's part of the experience.

Angry Anderson:

Rock and roll. He said, yeah, he said the great thing about being there. You know there's only so many places they can hide. That's true. Yeah, really, it's like you're playing to a captive audience in a sense, but of course it goes back the other way. You can't hide either.

Angry Anderson:

Well, you can, but you've just got to stay in your cabin, you know, and it's like, if you know, it's quite a flattering story. But you know, there was this lady who took a bit of a shine to me and, yeah, she just, no matter where I went, I bumped into her, you know, and it was just yeah.

Cheryl Lee:

Oh, and have you ever done Rock the Boat here in Australia?

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, we did some years ago. Well, I did as the AA band and you know some really really good players, some wonderful players on several different lineups I put together and we were doing it. I think you do it every like second year. They have most of the main acts they don't have, although they've sort of fallen into this having the same people over and over again. But yeah, the guy that does it, he won't work the tats on the crews. He said so after missing out, our management put up because our manager manages a half a dozen of big-name bands and he kept sort of saying well, when are you going to put the tats on?

Cheryl Lee:

Did you misbehave?

Angry Anderson:

No, no, certainly not no not these days. Well, not really, not offensively anyway, but yeah, no, for some reason. He said, oh, you know, I've had Angry do this and do that. He said, so, you know, oh, yeah, he can do another Angry band, you know. And I said, no, the band I'm, you know, the tats are working now, yeah, so that's it.

Cheryl Lee:

It's the band.

Angry Anderson:

I don't yeah. I don't have a like a sub band or a b band or a. You know a side, you know I love that side, that terminology on face, but you know they've got my side chick, you know, or my side guy. You know, like on the side, you know it's like I don't do that.

Cheryl Lee:

Oh well, so then you're back here for Rocket the Races. A few more things and then how exciting is this? You've got the Red Hot Summer Tour with ZZ Top and George Barragood and the Destroyers for six I think six shows, yeah.

Angry Anderson:

Actually the good news for punters that want to see the top and the Destroyers is they are doing shows just the two of them and they're doing smaller venues and they'll happen after we've done that run. Yeah, that's a great line-up. Another one of Scotty, our manager's bands Baby Animals they're on it. Living End yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know it's a terrific line-up, but you know they'll be obviously race courses and like big, big venues outside. Know, it's a terrific lot, but you know there'll be obviously race courses and like big, big venues outside stuff. Yeah, yeah.

Cheryl Lee:

Now are you sure, though, that you do want to do Rocket the Races? Because you're going to miss out on the event of the season on March the 22nd? You're going to miss out on my 60th birthday, Bugger. Yeah, I know.

Angry Anderson:

Didn't you get your people to speak to my people first? No, well, obviously someone's kept it from me. Someone's got to be in trouble.

Cheryl Lee:

Someone's head's got to roll.

Angry Anderson:

Bolts and bottoms will be kicked.

Cheryl Lee:

And then after that you've still got a few more dates. So I think you're living proof, Angry, that rock and roll is the fountain of youth.

Angry Anderson:

Well, yes, I think there's whisperings or murmurings out there that one pretty unkind person said obviously not a fan, obviously not a fan. And said you know, blah, blah, blah. We've only got a couple of years to wait and then we'll never hear from him again. So I think it's got to do with. I sniff the whiff of you know he's a socialist or a communist or a lefty and doesn't like my politics.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, I was going to say I reckon that sounds political.

Angry Anderson:

Yes, doesn't it.

Cheryl Lee:

Right and.

Angry Anderson:

I love the. I'm not sure if it was Oscar Wilde, because he's one of my favourites for quotes, but it goes along the lines that you know, if you haven't offended anybody, you're not really doing it either.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, that's right, especially these days.

Angry Anderson:

Oh well, it's so easy these days. I mean, you know, like I just saw a great delight, and I take great delight in it on several different levels, and one, quite seriously, intellectually serious, is that they are now going to have, pardon me, and a lot of damage has been done, but they're finally going to have. They've been forced into a position where they're going to have to have a public debate based on the scientific data about puberty blockers and physical mutilation of particularly girls in early puberty and early teenage years. So they're going to have this public inquiry into it, which it should have happened years ago, you know. But I mean the other thing too, which is, you know, there's a lot of things that are happening which shouldn't be happening.

Angry Anderson:

You know, like quite serious issues to deal with, and a lot of them have got to deal with women, with females. You know, like the lesser of evils, I suppose, is like allowing biological males to assume the identity of a female so they can play in female sport. Yeah, I think it's like assume. Okay, when you assume something, having been married once, I don't assume anything when it comes to women and relationships.

Angry Anderson:

And the other word which I think is identify. You know, just because you identify doesn't make it real and you know, it's one of the things that I think you know. Terminology, like the way terminology does change to the point where they even you know they include modern sort of I can't remember what the word is, but the words that come into the language and for some reason they, it's like wellness.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

You know, wellness really, I mean that's just health. I get health. Are you well? Thank you, yes, I am. I hope you're well. But wellness, but now it's accepted as a real word, you know. But one of the other not much offends me anyway, but influences, you know. Yeah, you know what. I mean Like fuck off, I mean influences.

Cheryl Lee:

Well, I guess the thing is that anything that brings about, you know, public debate on topics, the public debate, has to be a good thing.

Angry Anderson:

Yes.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, so I was going to go backwards a little bit, by the way, angry. How long have we got? They didn't say Are you going to give me the wind-up when you need to go? Well, I don't know, don't these things time out? I don't know, they might.

Angry Anderson:

Zooms. I mean, Don't they have a?

Cheryl Lee:

Well, we talked about the important things, okay, so.

Angry Anderson:

Which are.

Cheryl Lee:

Back a little bit. Yeah, okay, Because you know I don't think it's any secret that you had a bit of a rough and tumble and sometimes difficult upbringing. And at one day, that's so delicately put.

Angry Anderson:

Yes, yeah, a bit rough and tumble is a nice way of putting it. I've had to. The wonderful publishing house of Harper and Collins approached me well a couple of years ago and I wasn't ready, but they were interested in doing my life story, so to speak, and I'm working with a wonderful young bloke as a ghost writer, as a ghostwriter writer, and, yeah, so it's by thinking long and deeply about the past, which I'm not afraid to do anymore. I had a lot of some years ago. I had quite a bit of therapy and sorted a lot of stuff out and I've been able to talk to cousins and in some cases aunties or uncles over the last sort of 10, 15 years and I was able to put peace together.

Angry Anderson:

You know, like the whole and it was you can't try and deal with being. I'm no longer a victim of pedophilia, I am a survivor of it and there's a real, real difference there, obviously. But when you go through the therapeutic process to confront that as your past right which is, and unfortunately, what happens? You know, I was such a cliche case that up until I had therapy I was carrying it around, you know, and it was always in the back of my mind. You know and I I sort of dealt with with drugs and alcohol and, and you know, bad behavior yeah really, um, because, know you, don't, you know we're not equipped to.

Angry Anderson:

But I mean, I am concerned that some of the methods these days that I mean chemical, like sedation, when kids like myself are trying, you know, in their teenage years or whatever, and they've got these sort of repressed memories and they don't want to deal with it or they don't know how to deal with it, you know.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

One of the worst things that you can do because well, in my opinion, because I've been there and done it is to try and not deal with it.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, Through alcohol and drugs. It just doesn't go away, does it no?

Angry Anderson:

it's not ever going to, you know, and I'll never be free of it. But the depression that I felt for all those years, and, you know, massive depression from time to time where particularly in my, you know, if it hadn't have been for rock and roll, I don't know what would have happened, because there were periods of time there where and it wasn't anxiety, it was just massive depression where I just could not function so rock and roll really did save your life absolutely yeah without a doubt.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, because it gave me. It gave me an outlet for all this anger and this sadness. Because what happens and we, you know, we discussed this, we discussed this dynamic at great length in therapy was that there is a great sadness attached to the child because they, instinctively, we know that this is wrong. You know that this is wrong, you know, but you look around and you know, like my mother said to me years later if only I'd known the extent of it. You know, she knew there was something wrong with me, but I don't know why I didn't spell it out. Yeah, and I remember talking to the therapist about it and he said what about the fact you might have been protecting? In other words, what he suggested to me was that, because my mother was the, you know, the love of my life, I didn't want to cause it. She was going through enough as it was.

Cheryl Lee:

So you were in a way protecting her.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, yeah.

Cheryl Lee:

Well, kids will do that for their parents, won't they?

Angry Anderson:

Yes, yeah, absolutely yeah. And that's a dynamic which is starting to emerge now through psychotherapists. And when I say counselling, not so much counselling but therapists, that my experience was with a psychotherapist, because he's a psychiatrist but he doesn't want to deal with drugs, he doesn't want to treat you know, because psychiatry is about a mental illness like schizophrenia or something that's like a mental condition which is the condition of the mind.

Cheryl Lee:

Yep.

Angry Anderson:

Whereas depression manifests itself through your behaviour, but it's an emotional thing.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, that's right.

Angry Anderson:

And that's what we should be telling parents and kids and teachers that you know like. Just because the kid is depressed now, the child must be told at a very, very early age you can work with this, you can work through this. You don't have to be a victim.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, and you don't have to have it forever.

Angry Anderson:

No, no, it's like being an alcoholic. You know they're 20 years sober and they get up at every meet and say you know, my name is blah blah and I'm an alcoholic. They haven't had a drink for 20 or 30 years. But there's the propensity, or it lurks there. It's like depression.

Angry Anderson:

You know, whenever I feel, you know, and you know, and you know, since we lost Liam, depression comes and goes, it's constant, it's just there, you know today is actually today is his birthday, so it's apart from this little um oasis, if you like, um, I will busy myself around, as I do anyway most days, doing something around the house, but I will, I'll put myself to task and centre my, you know, like thinking, doing, thinking, doing, you know. So I'm not going to sit around and just Allow it to take over.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, yeah.

Angry Anderson:

Otherwise it'll just swallow me up.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah Well, let's go back a little bit. I was going to talk about your very first band for just two seconds. Bust a book, bust a book, no actually the band.

Angry Anderson:

the first band that I actually worked publicly with was a band called the Web oh, yeah.

Angry Anderson:

And I didn't last very long in that band. A terrific bunch of young blokes there was. The drummer was a Maltese kid and the bass player and the two guitar players was Italian, because where I grew up in Melbourne Pasco Vale was only a couple of miles away was Brunswick, where the big Italian population was. So that was my very first band and then they were moving in a direction musically and I wanted to go much more into the blues and I formed a band with some fellas and called Peace, power and Purity.

Cheryl Lee:

Oh.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, I had hair down on my elbows and, you know, wore a fringe jacket. You know, very early 70s and then after Peace Bound, purity, there was a couple of lineups of the same name and still I wanted to go further, some somehow, and that's when I joined Buster.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, well, the reason I picked up on that was because I've been researching Sunbury. I'm doing a special on Coast FM on the Sunbury Music Festival. Oh, there's Angry and Buster Brown in the first Sunbury. Yeah, can you?

Angry Anderson:

remember it Vaguely Vaguely, there was a lot going on in those days.

Cheryl Lee:

And I do love this. Sorry, go on, do you love? I love the story of how you got to be the singer in Rose Tattoo, because I think early on you wanted to be Bob Dylan and you wanted to be John Lennon, but the band already had three, was it? Or four, guitarists.

Angry Anderson:

Oh yeah, no, this was the early, early bands. This was pre Peace, Power and Purity. This was between the web and I was just there was a bunch of us trying to find some sort of musical direction.

Angry Anderson:

And you know, like, what do we want to play? And you know, there was all this new and exciting music coming out. You know, like there was the Beatles and exciting music coming out. You know, like there was the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Animals, the Kinks, all those kind of bands and, um, so we were desperate. There's this bunch of young.

Angry Anderson:

We were very young in our teens in those days. We were desperate to get a band together and some of us had been at school together tech school and we'd met a couple of other blokes in the area, because it soon became known who was interested in forming bands. And so, yeah, there was about six of us for that first band. And I remember I had a guitar and a little amp, tiny little amp, and couldn't play it. You know, we were all trying to learn as quickly as we could. And anyway, we were having a band practice at one time at one of the guys' places and I said, look, we've got to have a singer, We've got to have a singer. And you know I thought you know, okay, yeah, we've got to have a singer. I didn't want to be a singer, you know which is funny eh yeah, you are.

Angry Anderson:

So anyway, we said righto.

Cheryl Lee:

The mother of this boy said I tell you what one by one, we'll go into the lounge room and sing along to a record.

Angry Anderson:

Twist and shout, was it? Yes, it was. You've done well, girl, but that was the song that I got, and yeah, so at the end of that, the four of us sang, you know, through songs and she said, yeah, well, did you get the short straw? Yeah, she said well, you're obviously the best, so you've got to be the singer.

Angry Anderson:

So there went your guitar career, yeah well, I gave the guitar to one of the other guys who was actually starting to play. You know, I'd only owned the guitar for a few weeks, like you know.

Cheryl Lee:

Well, it must have been meant to be in the rest, as they say.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, yeah, and I am a great believer in that. There is a design out there, written in the stars, that that's our fate, our destiny, more to the point, our destiny. And I think some things are destined to be, and I think there's a wisdom are destined to be and I think there's a wisdom. There's a wisdom attached to having faith. It's not that sort of dogmatic faith about, well, everything is predestined, in a sense that you know there's some sort of control, there's a spontaneity to everything. That is its own reward, if you like, and it's its own reason for being, and that's why I always say you know, it's written in the stars. Yeah, it's a turn of phrase that I borrowed from the ancients, but it's a turn of phrase that I borrowed from the ancients. I remember reading a book years and years and years ago about the possible origins of our civilisation or life as we know it, and there was that phrase that just caught my eye that it's you know, all that has been and all that will be is written in the stars.

Cheryl Lee:

Now I am a bit afraid that we're going to get cut off, so I want to talk about the one other important thing. Yeah, and then we can continue chat until we.

Angry Anderson:

Until they cut us off.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, go into the Twitterverse. Continue chat until we, until they cut us off. Yeah, going to the Twitterverse Because you guys have got a new single coming out this month. Yes, yes, and you can free save it right now.

Angry Anderson:

I think it's next week or possibly next week or the week after. Yeah, possibly, I don't know. I've done my part. Yeah, it's another Stevie Wright cover. We covered Black Eyed Bruiser on our last album, which was the last album that we did with Mick and I as co-writing the albums, because he and I apart from Scarred for Life, which was a co-write with predominantly with Robin Riley because he replaced Mick in the line-up but Mick and I wrote most of the songs on Outlaws and Assault and Battery and he and I wrote most of the songs on Blood Brothers. Yeah, that was the last album.

Angry Anderson:

I was desperate to get it done. I'd had a lot of the lyric content as ideas for some years and there's a couple of tracks on it that go back to when mick and I wrote salt and battery and one of them's called creeper and um, which was I. I'd just been reading a lot about this this new thing called a serial killing, serial killers and um. The book that that got me killers and the book that got me started on this was the Moors Murderers. There was a husband and wife in England and then there was the Sutcliffe, but then I went out and I thought, well, okay. So I went back and I read probably three or four different books on Jack the Ripper. They reckon they just as a piece of trivia. They reckon they've identified the person through DNA. And that's only happened in recent months. Oh wow, but yeah. So there's a couple of lyric ideas that we were writing or working on back in those days that never made the cut so all these years later.

Angry Anderson:

So we covered Stephen King, who's back playing bass with us for a while. And Stephen King, who's back playing bass with us for a while. He came with the idea. He came to rehearsal one day and said he'd been working with Mick Black Eyed Bruiser. Yeah, and he said, well, lyrically, it really suits the band and you know so Mick had given it a tougher treatment guitar-wise. And yeah, so we put it down as a demo and Mark Goberts, who produced the album, just loved it so much. He said let's do a version, let's record. And it came up trumps. And so I got in touch with Stevie. I said look, we've covered, because I've always been a massive Stevie Wright fan, a massive Easy Beats fan.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

Long before we joined Alberts, you know, as a production and as a label. But, and yeah, stevie said, oh, I just love it, I love it. And he said why didn't you do the middle part? And I said, well, because we want, we wanted it to be belligerently rose tattoo, we wanted to draw the essence and give it our you know, like our take on it. And he said, yeah, it's really cool. He said I'm not unhappy that you left that bit out. Oh, because what I said to him was I said, mate, that's you, I mean the whole thing's him. But you know, like, that middle section, the quiet part that's Stevie reflecting, you know, like, all I want is, you know, some love and understanding Because, as we both know, stevie was a very damaged human being.

Angry Anderson:

I mean, he'd taken a lot of damage over his life, which is another thing he and I had in common as friends. So, yeah, so he loved the version so much. Anyway, I told him when he'd had the track for a few weeks and I rang him up and said what do you think? He says it's amazing, I love it, I love it and anyway, so next time we got together I said there's a few other songs of yours that I'd like to cover, either as the tats or as a solo effort on my part. And Hard Road was the next one. I said, well, it's almost like it was written for me. And he said, well, yeah, it was.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

Because it was written. No, he didn't write it for me, but he wrote it for what I now Road Warriors, you know.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

The real rock and roll outlaws of. You know, stevie was way, way, way in the beginning, of course, and you know, then there was people like you know, that wonderful productive era of music that Albert's helped launch into the world.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, oh definitely.

Angry Anderson:

You know, and there was. So we all were. You know, we were warriors of the road. We were, you know, tried and true, hardened, you know, in the battlefield of pubs and that lifestyle. And that's what he meant when he said yeah, well, it was.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

Because it was written about all us guys Pub bands on the road.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, one town to the next town to the next town. Yeah, yeah, so it's called Hard Road and it's out in February and people get onto the Google-o-meter because you can pre-save it now, which is a good thing to do. Oh, okay.

Angry Anderson:

So it's like available on.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, you can go onto your you know platform of choice and like pre-save it, which I believe is like pre-ordering it, yep, and then it'll just appear like magic, like voodoo, into your music thing, right, yeah?

Angry Anderson:

right. Well, fortunately I know people who know people. So, yeah, not the finished product, but I think close to the finished product on my phone. Um, yeah, no, it's. When I say the finished product, yes, it is, it's um, what they call mastered. Oh, yep, so it's the one that's got. I've got the version. I've got about six versions of all different stages of mixing and stuff and um, yeah, um, I've. So, yeah, I've got, I've got what will be released.

Angry Anderson:

Um, and the good thing about too, is that um, um, because of, and this is the plus attached to the accessibility through, you know, the device is that it'll be accessible to everybody.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, Now just for the Adelaideans listening. I think it might be your second to last gig on this particular tour. Adelaideans, put this one in your diary. 24th of May, the Rosie Tats are at our Emu Hotel in Moorford Vale, so I shall see you down the front at the.

Angry Anderson:

Emu Right Now. All you've got to do is talk to Catherine and she'll arrange all that. So come you know, would daughter want to come?

Cheryl Lee:

Danielle, I could ask her. Yeah, now one other question that I wanted to ask you before we do a goodbye, before we get, because it reminded me when you mentioned Rob Riley, because I have a TV show here in Adelaide on our local community station, a music show a weekly. He lives there, sorry, he lives there in.

Cheryl Lee:

Adelaide. He does correct. Yes, yeah, so I'm in charge of the Legends series of Ryder TV and I was wondering if, when you came to the EU, you might like to spend a little bit of time with me in front of the camera and let me interview you. As part of my Legends series, I've interviewed Rob, and Rob and Glenn Shorick.

Angry Anderson:

Who I think is one of the greatest rock and roll players in the world.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

Like in the world?

Cheryl Lee:

Oh, absolutely, we did it in his man shed. Have you seen his man shed?

Angry Anderson:

Oh yeah, yeah, I have, wow, his man shed. Have you seen his man shed? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, yeah. Have you got a man shed? No, I've got a carport. Yeah, no, I've got a shack. There's a, there's a. It has been a bedroom actually for well. All the boys have been in there at one stage when they wanted to be outside the house. And so there's the carport, then there's what we call the shack, and then there's a tool shed. But you know, it's now my men's shed, the shack, it's got my stuff in it. You know it's become more of a storage facility, you know, than anything. But yeah, I think there's a lot to be said, for I remember years and years ago I was asked to help. This is when I was doing television. I was asked to help launch the concept of the man shed as an Australia-wide initiative, and it was to get men together in groups and be mentored by older men.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah the two men shared, yeah.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, and it was an effort to try and get men, because, not that I think that many males need a safe place, but it was the man's shed, the man cave has always represented. You know like, well, that's dad's turf, right? Yeah, you don't go in there unless he says come and watch TV with me, you know whatever, but it's come and watch tv with me, you know whatever, but it's just it's, it's just that's dad's. You know it's where he, you know he builds up an old motorcycle or you know like, well, like rob does, you know like, restores an old vehicle, what you know, which would be largely useless to anybody else, but but it's precious to him, you know Dad, and it's where Dad can go and just be, you know like, if he wants to sit around and watch football with his mates and drink beer and smoke cigarettes or cigars or whatever. And so it's kind of yes, and what that represented to this initiative.

Angry Anderson:

The Man's Sh? Shed was that place, you know, and they were. There was a lot of talk in those days about getting men recognised, yeah.

Cheryl Lee:

Well, yeah. And to get together and to talk and share and.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, yeah, even predominantly in the early days with just one another, with your mates, right? So which happens? Uh, now I, I don't know. Up until recently I, you know, I worked as a laborer for what my one of my very best mates, um, um he's. He was a plumber. He's now retired, he retired last year, but he and I always talked about stuff on the job. Yeah, and you know, fridays we'd go to the pub, you know, because you'd knock off early, you'd go to the pub and have beers, and we'd go to the footy and you know stuff. But we were very relaxed with our inner feelings, which is why I found that most the younger blokes struggle with it the most.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

The older blokes, by the time you get to sort of 40, most blokes that I know had no problem talking about sensitive issues, personal issues with mates that they'd known forever. Yeah, because there was a certain amount of trust and there's a certain amount of like. Well, you tell me it doesn't go any further than this.

Cheryl Lee:

Exactly yeah. Like you said that safe space.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah. So when they turned around and said, oh, men, this and men, that and men, I think I was like really Some academic's going to tell me that we don't know how to express our feelings and I thought, no, well, fuck, that's bullshit. You know, because I'm associated with blokes. You know blokes my whole life and so I know the way blokes operate and you know most of us blokes because of our experiences, because of we're not worried about being vulnerable with one another, because we know we'll keep one another's secrets and that's no reflection on females or even blokes that can't keep secrets, because you know there's people who gossip in both genders. But, yeah, so I used to think to myself no, no, no, I understand what the seriousness of that problem is. You know that there are some men who don't know for one reason or another.

Cheryl Lee:

Who can't? Or won't open up.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, yeah, and there's always usually, when I say usually, in most cases, there's a deep-seated, deep-rooted reason They've been betrayed. Yeah, yeah one way or another yeah you know, um, you know that's one of the, the dynamics that we dealt with, dealing, uh, you know with, with, um, um physical abuse, um sexual abuse and but also domestic violence. You know, domestic abuse is that? Yeah, there was, there's this, there was always this thing that you were trying to deal with and and men are like that, and this is where where I concede the point, so to speak.

Angry Anderson:

I concede that silence is a man's way of dealing with something.

Cheryl Lee:

It just doesn't sound easy and silence can be his worst enemy. Yes, yes it can Anyway.

Angry Anderson:

So, Angie, can I Talk about men's shed?

Cheryl Lee:

Would I speak to Kat? To try and organise half an hour with you for the telly.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, what we could do, we would do it probably at sound check or just before sound check.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, quite often do do that at the EMU. Yeah, even in the green room.

Angry Anderson:

What's on your list there, because there'll be two gigs.

Cheryl Lee:

In.

Angry Anderson:

Adelaide. Well, there's always a Friday and a Saturday.

Cheryl Lee:

Oh, I've only got one for the moment.

Angry Anderson:

Really yeah, okay, is it the Saturday or the Friday?

Cheryl Lee:

May 24th, let me tell you, is a where's May, march, april. May 24th is a Saturday.

Angry Anderson:

So where's the Friday?

Cheryl Lee:

It would be the May the 23rd.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, but where is it on your list?

Cheryl Lee:

No date for that one, no venue for the 23rd as yet.

Angry Anderson:

No.

Cheryl Lee:

Hmm, but we've got a bit of time. Hmm, maybe it's yet to be confirmed.

Angry Anderson:

I find that curious. Or maybe it's just to be confirmed. I find that curious.

Cheryl Lee:

Or maybe it's just not been put on the webpage.

Angry Anderson:

Oh, I think all of them have. Yeah, I mean we don't for just for the practicality of expenses et cetera. We never work just the Friday or just the Saturday, it's always the two. And sometimes it includes a session on the Sunday, a Sunday session. I love that. Yeah, some of the Sunday sessions are pretty good. We usually do a Sunday session down in Tasmania and so knowing that we've got a show on a Sunday, you know we don't have to travel like home. Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

So, it's another. You know, like late night on the Saturday night you get up and you because there's always there's always been this thing with bands is that sometimes, when you're just that little bit, you know, hungover, worst for wear, so you're just a little bit raggedy, some of your best gigs, yeah, no, they are. I mean, it's a common known fact with any band. Yeah, and particularly a Sunday, because it's early in the afternoon and it's kind of like, oh fuck, you know, like really, and you drag yourself there and the fucking band is on fire.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah.

Angry Anderson:

It just goes off like a frog in a sock and you know.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, it's just really cool Just when you least expect it. It's just like you know. Yeah, it's just really cool Just when you least expect it.

Angry Anderson:

It's just like you know. You just feel like that's not 100%. So maybe that's just the catalyst, maybe I don't know, but yeah, it's a common thing with bands.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, when you're feeling a bit rough, when the going gets tough, the tough get going. Bingo All righty Well, I'll talk to Kat about that. And Going Bingo Alrighty Well, I'll talk to Kat about that.

Angry Anderson:

And fingers crossed, we can have another chat for the telly. And just mentioning Rob, the reason Kingy's back in the band is because all the players over the years that have been the real members there's been people that have come in through the band as a line-up to help us out at one stage or another. I think 31.

Angry Anderson:

Well, yeah, I think that's a bit exaggerated, because there's some people who played like a gig, you know, like we needed a bass player. For some reason, whoever was playing bass was crook with the flu. We've got a mate to come and fill in, right, that's it. Just do one gig, or maybe two or three gigs. It was just a fill in you know like so.

Angry Anderson:

But Rob Riley and Geordie Lynch will come back and play in the lineup next year, which will be and hopefully we might even be able to write and record some songs.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, which will be cool Because you have been sort of bringing in some of the past. You know true members to play along the way.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. There's been so very few. And Stephen, he did the Blood Brothers album. He did probably four, five, maybe six tours, maybe even more, I can't remember. But you know, back in the day when Pete was still alive, and so we did a lot of work in Europe with King. He did a lot of work here too. So, and Geordie, of course he took over from Royal Islands, so he was the longest serving bass player and Rob was in the band for years was the longest-serving bass player and Rob was in the band for years. So yeah, it'll be a real treat to have them come back and play.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah. Oh that'd be awesome.

Angry Anderson:

Well, it's a way of acknowledging the invaluable contribution that only several people have made, because they've written some of the best songs. Rob, you know, co-wrote some of the best songs we've ever recorded on the Scarred for Life album, you know. And Geordie, like I said you know, there's no better bass player than Geordie. He's a freak.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, yeah, you've had some great talent along the way, oh yeah, yeah, demarco.

Angry Anderson:

you know he's a freak too, but it's like he's always saying you know, as long as I can live up to Diggers playing and I think DeMarco is one of the probably well, he's my favourite rock and roll drummer because he plays rock and roll, he swings everything because there's rock and there's rock and roll and we play traditional rock and roll. It's like all of our roots and all of our influences come from the 50s, when rock and roll was key when rock and roll was real rock and roll was key when rock and roll was real rock and roll.

Cheryl Lee:

yeah, Well, apart from having great players, you've also supported some or toured with some great bands as well, like the Gunners.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, I mean we were lucky enough. You know that time we spent in America we toured with two of the biggest names, which is Aerosmith, yeah, and did a lot of gigs with Aerosmith and a lot of gigs with ZZ Top. But we toured in Europe a couple of years earlier with ZZ Top when they made their comeback album, earlier with ZZ Top when they made their comeback album, and so that's when we first met them. We were touring around with them right extensively through Europe and Britain and so, yeah, I mean, when you get to play with people of that calibre, you know ZZ Top have to be one of the greatest rock and roll bands ever, you know.

Cheryl Lee:

You've had a pretty good rock and roll journey, is the word you use?

Angry Anderson:

Absolutely yeah, and let's just get our marketing cap on now.

Cheryl Lee:

It's been a long hard road, well done, marketing cap on now. It's been a long, hard road, well done. Well, I'm going to quickly congratulate you on 2006, inducted into the aria hall of fame. Um, alongside you know lobby lloyd and also daddy, called the diviners ice house hillley. Again, great names there. And what was the other thing I was going to say congratulations for.

Angry Anderson:

I remember telling Pete because he was dying at that stage and I went to the hospital and I said, pete, they're going to put us, they're going to, they've nominated us, they're going to give us an ARIA Hall of Fame award. And he says I won't tell you exactly what he said, but he said, fuck, you know, like I've got to die to get a fucking award, I've got to get a ticket. He said tell them to stick it up their arse.

Cheryl Lee:

Oh, and I remember last time when we spoke uh, you know you were telling me how much you enjoyed working um on beyond thunderdome. Yeah, so since we spoke last, I've been to um monday monday, the monday monday bash. Oh yeah, I went to, you know, know.

Angry Anderson:

Mad Max.

Cheryl Lee:

Country.

Angry Anderson:

We're doing Monday, Monday next year.

Cheryl Lee:

Are you? Yeah, have you done it before?

Angry Anderson:

No. Oh it's awesome, actually, that plumber that I was telling you about who we became best mates on doing that movie. He was the giant.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, yeah.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, six foot nine tall, big fella, big fella. Actually, I said to a journalist once I was the smallest bloke on the film and he was the biggest bloke on the film. And then I thought, no, I said oh fuck, I wasn't the smallest, he was the biggest bloke on the film. And then I thought, no, I said oh fuck, I wasn't the smallest. What?

Cheryl Lee:

was his name, the dwarf, you know.

Angry Anderson:

Oh, yeah, he sat on Paul's shoulders, he was master and Paul was blaster. Yeah, angelo, yeah, what a great bloke, angelo, jeez. I tell you what I mean. He had some amazing stories about making films and stuff. I bet, because he was in, it was either Zeke Phil's Follies or you know, there was a carnival show that they made. They made a movie out of it about the carnival troupe called Freaks. Yeah, he had some incredible stories to tell, some which I can't repeat.

Cheryl Lee:

No, save them for the book.

Angry Anderson:

Oh, no, no, I can't even well. Well, it's not part of my story, you know, but I mean no.

Cheryl Lee:

So there's a Mad Max Museum In Silverton, you know which is where Monday Monday is held. Have you been there? Well, you can. When you go to Monday Monday, I can yes, I can. They've got the car in there and all sorts.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, well, it's a funny story, you know, like it's a curious story because I remember saying to George at my 60th and I said you know, I've met half a dozen people who have told me to my face they have one of these original cars, you know. And George just looked at me and smiled and he goes yeah, I've had people tell me that too, because George has got all the original stuff. Uh-huh, I'm like with all the cars because they smashed up, from the first Mad Max to, you know, the second and then, of course, thunderdome. I mean that car that I drove in Thunderdome that got crashed and smashed up three times.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, well, they do have a few wrecks at the museum.

Angry Anderson:

I think the Bigfoot which was my car. I think that's at that museum.

Cheryl Lee:

Yeah, it might be, I reckon.

Angry Anderson:

It was a huge, huge vehicle. Yeah, it had like tractor tyres on it and it was so much fun to drive that thing. It was just fucking amazing.

Cheryl Lee:

Oh you lucky duck.

Angry Anderson:

It had a big sort of fully blown, I think a Chev 454 or something, a gigantic V8 motor, I remember.

Cheryl Lee:

Down memory lane there, yeah, I was, I was. I remember Down memory lane there, yeah, I was.

Angry Anderson:

I remember when I first got in it and I had the guy who built it with me and he said look, it's really good in a straight line. Just don't try and turn any corners, particularly when you get up over 60k right, or 60 mile an hour, because that had mile an hour gauges on it. And I said why? What will happen? He says because it'll fall over, because it's so far off the ground, right, these huge tractor tyres. So I was all right, in a straight line you could drive it, I just yeah.

Cheryl Lee:

Just don't turn. Well, we were Monday Monday virgins. We hadn't been either. It is the best thing you know. Out in the desert, no water, no, in the dust, camping, no showers. It's the best. So I would really love to go again this year, so I might even see you down the front there as well. Well, we'll be there next year. Oh, 2026? Yes, Right.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's next year. Yeah, Awesome yeah.

Cheryl Lee:

All righty. Well, I have taken up so much of your time. Oh, that's okay. I've enjoyed myself. It's been fabulous having a good old gas bag.

Angry Anderson:

Yeah, awesome, yeah, all righty. Well, I have taken up so much of your time. Oh, that's okay, I've enjoyed myself.

Cheryl Lee:

It's been fabulous having a good old gas bag. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, and we'll see you at the EMU, if not before. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Well, I'll let you get on to your jobs.

Angry Anderson:

Just get on to the lovely Catherine, I will do Thank you. Alright, mate See ya.

Cheryl Lee:

Bye, angry. You're with Cheryl Lee, that radio chick. Thank you so much for joining me on the Still Rocking it podcast. Hope to catch you again next time. Get out when you can support Aussie music and I'll see you down the front.