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Episode 132: Live From the 2024 Carolinas Conference

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Join Chad Kintzer, Justin King, Jake Teeter, Bryan Epland, CTEM, Moe Rateb, and host Trent Manning as they recap the highlights of the 2024 Carolinas Conference and Tradeshow and TETAC annual education events. From the latest equipment advancements to top-notch education sessions, our guests share their takeaways, including insights on autonomous and remote-control mowing technology.

Learn how CTEM attesting prep can help your facility get ready for a voluntary OSHA mock inspection. Hear why regional shows like Myrtle Beach’s Carolinas Conference are a must-attend for networking, learning, and reconnecting with your newest old friends.

Get inspired to make the trip to a local, regional or national event for education, camaraderie, and fun!



Chad Kintzer

Over fucking yum yum

Trent Manning

sauce Yeah, I just hit record.

MIC2

hit record. Oh. That's

Trent Manning

That's why we got bleep bleep

MIC2

got bleep, bleep, bleep. I downloaded, I

Trent Manning

I downloaded the new ringtone. Er, not ringtone, but Audio clip of bleep. Just for this. Yeah. So we can,

Jake Teeter

Good job, Chad. Good job, Justin. It's

Trent Manning

so we can get rid of all this stuff.

Chad Kintzer

for you.

Trent Manning

All right. I think about what I'm gonna say. Yeah, this is normally what I do. I just sit here and say, Hmm, what am I gonna say?

Chad Kintzer

going to say now?

Trent Manning

What am I gonna say now?

Chad Kintzer

One thing is late.

MIC2

Better case.

Trent Manning

Mm hmm. Dedicated.

MIC2

Only 10. 30 Tuesday, November 19. Tuesday,

Trent Manning

What? November 19th. Yep.

MIC2

November 19.

Trent Manning

Tuesday, November 19th. And we're at the Dunes Golf Club with Chad Kinzer. And, Moe, how do you say your last name? Cause I know I'm gonna screw this up. Rat tip. Rat tip. Like rat tip. Like a rat tip.

MIC2

I never pronounced

Trent Manning

Sorry, sorry man.

MIC2

sorry, man. I would have

Trent Manning

Like a rat tip. Yeah, yeah, no, that's all good. And Jake Teeter. And Justin, your last name? Is it King? Is it really King? Man, I don't know why I was, I was thinking it was King. And then I was like, no, there's no way that's right. It's not Justin King. It's Justin something else. No, it's Justin King. And Brian Eplin. And yeah, anyway, we're here for the what is the official name? The Carolina?

Chad Kintzer

Show. Show?

Trent Manning

conference, conference and trade show, conference and trade show big t tag meeting of the minds. How many people do we have in class today? It was up there. How many did we have after lunch?

MIC2

Probably about 40.

Trent Manning

And then how How many did we have after the raffle

MIC2

Well, okay, so

Chad Kintzer

it was a little better after lunch. I think everybody was pretty much there still after lunch, but I'm pretty sure after the raffle,

Justin King

gone. We'll see how many people are there after Tuesday.

MIC1

Yeah. No,

Bryan Epland

is odd, because you think, I mean, with you having that new, new class, I

MIC1

care.

Bryan Epland

don't think that would draw a crowd. No

Trent Manning

I mean, honestly, it's the last day of the show is always the last day of show. And it doesn't matter if it's the Carolina show or the national show or whatever kind of show it is. The last day is the last day and people want to leave early. I don't I don't know what the deal is, but I'm all for staying to the end. But most people don't like to do that.

MIC1

I mean, you know, I came down here to go to

Bryan Epland

go to this to educate myself, so. Staying at the end just makes sense to me, but I suppose if you're a guy that's got to drive a certain distance, I mean, maybe not.

Chad Kintzer

Well, you're staying until Thursday

Justin King

anyway, so. Well, I mean, they do do the option for Tuesday only. Oh, I know. Yeah,

MIC2

how

Trent Manning

you get like a 10 break if you only take

MIC2

more than that. Well, you

Chad Kintzer

know, I think it's only for the show, though. That's for the show. Like, you can do the conference, you know, just one day. But just still the classes, I think it would be the full, both days, I don't know. I

Moe Rateb

don't know. I just clicked all the boxes and submitted the invoice.

Trent Manning

Yeah, that's the best way. Take it from Moe, you heard it here. Click all the boxes, send in the invoice.

MIC2

it. That's great.

Trent Manning

Just make sure you got a PO number to go with

MIC2

it. Jake. He's looking at the conference. Yeah, yeah. What

Trent Manning

What are you figuring out over

MIC2

there? Jake? I don't know how he can see it through the freaking earpieces. You

Justin King

should open the glasses up before you try to look. I wish we had video for that

Jake Teeter

one. Yeah, we don't. We need to get a video going. 95 for the full package. 195

Trent Manning

for the full

Jake Teeter

That's not too bad. Yeah. Tuesday only is

Trent Manning

So you

Jake Teeter

so you save 30

Trent Manning

30, 30, 30 saving,

MIC2

Tuesday's a long day though. Yeah. yeah.

Trent Manning

No, it is a long day.

MIC2

short day. Yep for sure

Trent Manning

What was the most interesting thing y'all seen? And we'll go one at, one at a time and we're going to start with Chad.

Chad Kintzer

Most interesting thing we've seen at the

MIC1

Yeah,

Trent Manning

yeah. Whatever. I don't, my face, whatever. I don't care.

Chad Kintzer

Most interesting thing. I really like the steel, the steel presentation was really good. I was out talking to them after we were all done. and the I like the zero turn electric zero turn. They have, that's pretty neat. We were out there checking it out. You can add, they have a blower attachment for the front of it and everything. And I'm interested in me because we try to blow off the parking lot with one of those big skag. Stand on blowers and that thing is so loud. We actually had the hotel across the swash call and complain. It was waking up hotel patrons and we're like, okay, so I mean that would be something I think would cut down on noise.

MIC1

So they had

Trent Manning

it here,

MIC2

Yeah, it was sitting

Chad Kintzer

out, it was sitting outside.

MIC1

Yeah. I

MIC2

it.

Chad Kintzer

Yeah, they had the zero turn and then they had the sit down one and they also had the one you stand on. They were both there and I was talking to them and I guess they do eight hours, but it depends on if you're just doing a maintenance cut or if you're doing like, you know, cutting a whole bunch of grass. Sorry. So if it's a whole bunch of grass, he said it would probably, you know, I mean, there's no set like how much it changes it, but he said that it will change the time that obviously the draw on it would be a lot more. So be less time.

Trent Manning

So if they were mowing a lot of grass. Yeah. It wouldn't

Chad Kintzer

run as well. He said it's 8 hours. 8 hours on like a maintenance cut. Hmm. I thought that was pretty good. We don't run ours ever for 8 hours in a day

Trent Manning

like that. Right. I know. Our operators don't operate for eight hours a day.

Chad Kintzer

sit down and watch them a lot.

Trent Manning

you know, they're on their phones for at least an hour a day in the woods somewhere.

Chad Kintzer

Yeah, that's one of the problems. One of our guys, he used to do that all the time. Picking up golf balls in the woods, he'd get all kinds of crap stuck underneath the blades. Yeah.

MIC1

What do you

Trent Manning

think Mo?

Moe Rateb

I like Kayla's presentation about CTM attesting. And it was a lot more than I thought it would be. Like, just the fire extinguisher part. Where the signs should go instead of just having them there to check a box again. But yeah, so that gives me like, you know, the next year or something to Work towards,'cause this year will be my second year. And then my third year will be following after that. So I'll be ready for that.

MIC1

You got your E. M. C. One and

MIC2

two.

Moe Rateb

I got the study guides and all that. Just need to sit down and do'em. Mm-Hmm. you know, you can do'em. They pay for two

Chad Kintzer

classes a year. What do you mean at ttac? If you can register to take classes, you can do two classes a year. They'll send you the books, and you can go take the test. Two of them a year they do. Oh, well you

Moe Rateb

can take them online. Right,

Chad Kintzer

sure you can, but you don't have to pay for them. The GCSA pays for them. The Carolinas. My city pays for them. Well sure, my work paid for ours

MIC2

too, but.

Trent Manning

But you moved off a t tac and got yours paid

MIC2

for it. Most of them.

Trent Manning

instead of getting your club to play for him. Yeah.

MIC1

Okay. Make

Moe Rateb

like six of them. Oh yeah. And the other thing R and R has that program still where they you get a credit basically of 115 bucks to pay your GCSA dues.

Trent Manning

hmm. Yeah, everybody know about

MIC2

that. Jake.

Trent Manning

Nope. Jake didn't know about that.

MIC2

know about that. Yeah. Jake pulls the flags out on the tri plane.

Chad Kintzer

Do you remember that?

MIC2

I

Trent Manning

think that was my

MIC2

first year. I was

Chad Kintzer

telling that story the other night. I don't know who I was telling that to, but it was so funny. We were just dying laughing. Remember that? We were all sitting around the table having a good time talking, you know, just whatever. And you're like, yeah, I was doing, I don't even remember what you were trying to do. And I'm trying to drive across the green and pull the flag out off the mower and we're all like, what? And I'm like,

MIC2

what?

Chad Kintzer

And you're like, what man, that's the way I was taught to do

Trent Manning

yeah. No, that's a big, big no, no. At most places.

MIC2

thanks.

Trent Manning

we do

MIC1

things. Doubling down.

Justin King

Double in doubt.

Trent Manning

down. He's

Justin King

He's not giving up.

MIC2

Did

Moe Rateb

you at least have your seatbelt on? He might even add flip flops

MIC2

along the way. Maybe Crocs.

Moe Rateb

Safety flops.

Chad Kintzer

Steel, steel bottom flops. With the bottle opener.

MIC2

When

Trent Manning

I worked for Jerry Pate, I was at Georgia, Georgia Southern University. And I don't remember.

MIC2

He was

Trent Manning

coach of some sort, and I don't remember what coach he was. But he got a brand new 3500,

MIC2

and I

Trent Manning

don't remember why I was out there. But I'm talking to the guy, and he said, The only problem I have with this mower is when

MIC2

I

Trent Manning

put my beer in the cup holder, grass gets in my

MIC2

beer.

Trent Manning

And yeah,

MIC2

is, I

Trent Manning

I just can't deal

MIC2

with it. So he

Trent Manning

he had come up with his own. I forgot about that from last

MIC2

here.

Trent Manning

No, no. Yeah. The refrigerator running or freezer or whatever it is.

MIC1

Yeah.

Moe Rateb

Does it have an alarm?

MIC2

That is the alarm. Well, it's good to see they got it fixed. Yeah, yeah. Hey, it's a brand new one.

Bryan Epland

Nah, compared to Okay.

Chad Kintzer

Sign language. No beeps for that one.

MIC2

video, we'd have to blur that out. It'd be a little blur.

Trent Manning

A little blur.

Jake Teeter

do you

Trent Manning

think, Jake? What would you like? What'd you enjoy?

Jake Teeter

The most amazing thing I saw was Justin King eating five plus sushi rolls.

MIC2

Hmm.

Trent Manning

Yeah, what was the count on that? What was the total

MIC2

count? Well, because

MIC1

it's the last.

Trent Manning

How many did you order? Let's

MIC2

start order three.

Trent Manning

He ordered three. He ate those

MIC2

in three

Trent Manning

minutes and 33 seconds. Fastest sushi eater I've ever seen.

Bryan Epland

then whatever else

Trent Manning

ring. And

Justin King

were partials so it's hard to tell now

MIC1

I

Justin King

to guess, it was somewhere between five and six rolls.

MIC2

okay,

Trent Manning

that's that's fair

MIC2

So

Trent Manning

you feeling? Right, right ready to go for a run.

MIC2

Ready to go, yeah.

Trent Manning

ready go for a

MIC1

run

Moe Rateb

Justin Yum Yum King. Okay.

Trent Manning

Yeah, I mean I'm down with that.

Moe Rateb

He

Bryan Epland

wanted to tell that story without the language. Not the weirdest nickname I've ever had.

MIC1

Yeah.

Trent Manning

Yum Yum. But yeah, y'all want to tell the story? Might as well. We're talking about

MIC2

it.

Chad Kintzer

So we're sitting there eating, of course. And, brian and I are just stupid for some reason. I don't know why. We always are. And he's like, look, he's like, there's some yum yum sauce over there. And for whatever reason, Justin had his back to us and we were acting like we were going to put it over there and say, here, the waiter put it over there for us. But I'm like, nah, I just hit him on the side. I just go, Hey man, I said, you want some yum yum sauce? And he goes, you interrupted my effing conversation for effing yum yum sauce. And he looked at me like I was, like it was my wife looking at me. He gave me the dirtiest look. He was so mad. I was like, I was defeated. I was like, I hung my head. I was like, but it's yum yum sauce. It was very funny. What about the, what about our waiter that looked

MIC1

like

Trent Manning

yeah, I don't, I don't think we should go

MIC2

there.

Trent Manning

Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I would like to release this episode. So I really, I really don't think, I really

MIC2

don't

Trent Manning

think we should

MIC2

we should get there. No. Okay. Yeah.

Trent Manning

I mean we could just for fun and then we'll I'll

MIC2

just edit

Trent Manning

all out if you want to but Yeah, that's not

MIC2

somehow.

Trent Manning

that's not something that we can air.

Jake Teeter

But on a serious note, I agree with Mo about Kayla's presentation. And a lot of it has to do with the fact that we've got an OSHA inspection coming up in December. And she raised a lot of good points about what we've got to get ready for.

MIC1

Yeah, how do you know

Trent Manning

you got an OSHA?

Jake Teeter

We scheduled it.

MIC1

it.

Trent Manning

Okay.

Jake Teeter

It's a free thing. OSHA will come out and inspect your shop, give you a list of what you've got to fix, and tell you how much time you've got to fix it, and figure out how much money you've got to spend to fix it.

Moe Rateb

Oh yeah, we had, we had that earlier this year. Yeah, it's not too bad.

Trent Manning

Yeah, I mean, that's a good service. Yeah, how would you set that service up?

Jake Teeter

You just contact OSHA and say we want your, I think they call it mock inspection. Okay. And they'll schedule when, and they want to come out in the middle of summer, which is a busy season.

MIC1

hmm.

Jake Teeter

Can you come in the winter? We get a chance to get everything kind of straight.

Trent Manning

yeah.

MIC2

So.

Trent Manning

And when did you say they're coming?

MIC2

December 10th, I think. Okay, So, December 11th, you'll be looking for a job.

Trent Manning

How about you, Justin? What, what did you enjoy

Justin King

I also enjoyed the steel class. I thought the, the battery stuff was interesting. Cause whether we like it or not, you know, it's gonna get there at some point. And that was the first I heard of the claim that their batteries can last 7 to 10 years. That's a bold claim. Yeah, I would agree with that. But if it's true, I mean, that's, it makes the upfront cost seem a little bit

Bryan Epland

better. It kind of offsets Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chris Eden, the territory manager where I'm at in Nebraska, he, he had a price chart that kind of compared it over, like, say it was like five years, and it was like apples to apples. By the time you do fuel and oil, you know, anything, you know, carbon air parts, air filters, things like that, so.

Chad Kintzer

Well, that's what he said when we were out there talking to him. He said five years, he said. Actually, I didn't even think he said it was that long. I mean, he said it was a couple years. Yeah, I mean, I was just throwing a number down. No, no, I could find the

Bryan Epland

document of it. Do

Chad Kintzer

you have it with

Bryan Epland

you? Yeah, I keep it in my back pocket. Thank you.

Justin King

I mean, it seems like things like the, again, like, that's true, longevity, they've kind of taken care of. Power, it seems like these battery tools have good power. I think the biggest thing will be weight for some of these tools. So, but it'll get there, I mean, but I thought that was interesting.

Trent Manning

definitely the the backpack and the

MIC2

weight I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

Trent Manning

something it's gonna be hard to we'll have a hand truck with a battery rolling it around for a backpack

Bryan Epland

I mean he did say that though, he said, you know, if we get these high amp power batteries then they do get a little heavy. So at least they know it and they're honest about it too.

MIC1

Now the freezer's on.

Trent Manning

It's great.

MIC2

Sorry.

Trent Manning

Just working poor Chad death here having him unplug everything in his break room. Yep.

Moe Rateb

And that water fountain might go off too.

MIC2

Yep,

Trent Manning

Might as well just go

MIC2

well unplug it while you're drinking. I need a drink first.

Jake Teeter

Oh, man. Is it time clock strike twelve? Yeah. As

Trent Manning

Nice. How about you, Brian? What, what did you

MIC2

enjoy?

Bryan Epland

Mine, mine was the Kohler one. It was, it was really interesting to see and I was talking, I think, to you about it afterwards. You know, that's the direction things are going outside. If it's not, if it's not battery powered, it's fuel injection. And you can't, you know, diagnose a fuel injection system with MAP sensors, crank sensors, all that stuff. It's not something you can just do on the fly. So, being able to see the tool, have, you know, have the, have it all explained, and how you went over the simple, the diagnosis that you can do without the tool, that was really nice to see. And you did a really good job doing that too, Mike.

MIC1

Yeah, I would love to,

Trent Manning

Get him back

MIC2

out in our local area and Have him back.

Trent Manning

watch that presentation again. Because, yeah, being able to view the live data and stuff. I mean, that's

Bryan Epland

was really nice. I mean, seeing that, seeing the barometric pressure and all that stuff, it was, I mean, it's all in that little Bluetooth deal. It's really neat. They gave us the app last year when they were here.

MIC1

We got the

Bryan Epland

app

MIC2

last year? That

Bryan Epland

was Club Car, wasn't it? No, it was Kohler.

Moe Rateb

Well, it's the Kohler app. I went to Club Car in August.

Bryan Epland

But it was Club Car that, right, that they were talking about here, wasn't it?

Moe Rateb

Well, there's a special club car engine for all the Kohlers, or all the club cars, there's a Kohler engine.

Bryan Epland

Yeah, I thought it was club cars as you were talking about that. But yeah, either way, it's a neat app, and all the live guys can get

Chad Kintzer

it. Yeah, So what

Trent Manning

the app

Chad Kintzer

do? Well, yeah, you need the thing to plug in in order to get it to read the diagnostics. But you can go in there, all the videos. They have all kinds of training videos.

Bryan Epland

Well that's the other thing, on their YouTube channel, I didn't know that. That they have what's it called? Kohler University on YouTube. And they've got all these videos to help you diagnose all this stuff too, so. It's nice that they're putting that information out there and not just keeping it, you know, you don't have to buy a 50 page service manual or

Moe Rateb

On the, the app, without it being hooked up to Bluetooth. It has the manual for that engine, like you scroll through to pick your engine, and then it has all kinds of icons, and the manual for it is right there. And it's got like, pin wiring and all that good stuff.

MIC1

Oh wow. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, that's worth getting the app just for

Jake Teeter

that Yeah, it is. I got a tribute for you guys. What's the new name of Kohler?

MIC1

Yeah, it look, I

Trent Manning

don't know how you would

MIC2

pronounce it. Relco. Relco? Relco.

Trent Manning

Reko.

MIC2

Mm-Hmm.

Moe Rateb

R-E-H-L-K-O. And isn't it Kohler,

Jake Teeter

with just They jumbled the words. Yeah, they just scrambled the words up. Yeah, I guess they're trying to get away from the bathroom stuff. I. I

Trent Manning

thought it was pretty funny. The, the krieger. What do day?

MIC2

say? Yeah. He said he's got to go work on some toilets

Chad Kintzer

or something. Go work on some sinks, faucets. It was funny because as he said that, the guy was walking past me. He's like, I hear it all the time. All the time. He just kept walking. He didn't even miss a beat. He just kept going.

Trent Manning

yeah, I'm sure he gets tired of

Chad Kintzer

I didn't think he acted like he was tired of it. He's just,

Trent Manning

over and over

Chad Kintzer

again. Yeah, I hear it all the time. All the time. Old joke.

MIC1

It was a dad

Bryan Epland

Wasn't new to us, though.

MIC1

year. Every year.

Trent Manning

He's never missed a beat. Ever. He sells it. Well, you know what

MIC2

group. He's never missed a beat. Yeah. No. He's

Trent Manning

I mean, I

MIC2

he does it, you know what I mean? He sells it away. Well,

Chad Kintzer

you know, and the nice part is, like I said, now they can just walk right back past the parking lot where we were at this year. What did you guys think about the new place?

Bryan Epland

It was good. I think that you know, growing pains maybe, just with the microphone cutting in and out, and then maybe having monitors maybe or something closer for the back guys. Because I think that, I didn't sit in the back, I was in the front. I thought maybe it was hard to see from the back, but I did stand back there.

Chad Kintzer

We did get spoiled over at Market Common. 100%. Because there was like 10 screens in there that you could just set everything up on. And you know, most of the time that's enclosed. I mean, the area we're in now is so open, you can't really do it without the microphone. Right. But I thought it was nice. I liked it. I mean, I like the fact that we're right there at the convention center. I mean, that's, instead of having to drive all the way from Market Common over, you know, plus I think it'll be easier to find. I mean, that one at Market Common is kind of buried back in there a little bit.

Bryan Epland

I'm kind of going back to what Tim Krieger said there. He was talking about how special it is. I agree with them, you know, what you guys have here at TTAC, and, and, you know, how many people you get to attend all this, it's, it's all inspiring. I mean, I'm happy in our area if we get 40 guys or 30, it's awesome. But, the education that you guys are able to provide is great, and that's why I come down here every year. Yeah, it's awesome. When I first

Chad Kintzer

started going, we probably had about 40, 60 guys. I mean, it's double. You know, it's, it's good. I mean, I love it. I love it. It's My favorite time of the year right now, you know when everybody comes down and we can all have fun. Oh yeah, you know and you have the classes and stuff and I mean, it's a lot of work But I mean to me it's just it's just fun because you get to do all the work with all your friends and stuff

MIC2

When the, the sad thing is, how many people

Trent Manning

from Myrtle Beach are here?

Chad Kintzer

I Mean if I had a count, I would say there was probably 10, maybe, at the most 15, but I don't think it was that many. I think it was probably about 10.

MIC1

Yeah That's

Justin King

How many courses are in there? Oh, it's 100.

Chad Kintzer

Ridiculous. I mean, yeah, from, from North Carolina down to, say, Pawleys Island, I mean, there's gotta be 100 golf courses. Easy.

Bryan Epland

You've got education, you just walk out your back door and you're there pretty much in You got people traveling from a long ways away to come do it.

Chad Kintzer

Yeah, it's crazy. It just goes to show you, man. You can lead a horse to water and you can't make him drink. That's why I set up for the longest time I tried to get guys to come out and have a chapter here in Myrtle Beach. Because, I mean, with the amount of people that we have, we could do exactly what we do here every year. We could do, you know, we could spread it out over the year. Do, you know, how many classes? Five classes? I mean, anybody would come and do a class for that many people. We could do amazing things. And nobody wanted to. Nobody wanted to do it. I couldn't get anybody to come out. Hell, I invited like guys just to go to lunch. Nothing. I was the only one that showed up.

Jake Teeter

How about lunch? How about the two guys that came from South Jersey and Pennsylvania? He's helping all those guys. No, that's love those guys, man. Yeah,

Trent Manning

this

MIC1

But I

Moe Rateb

but I'll say from last year was my first meeting. Our conference to this year being my second one. What I learned from the conference and the trade show,

MIC1

about

Moe Rateb

being able to apply it throughout the year and adding onto it, I mean tenfold on what I've learned.

Chad Kintzer

It was just inspiring to go there and see all those people gathered together. With a common goal to be better at what our job is, I mean, that's what we're all trying to do is hone our profession and, you know, be as good as we can be. And I mean, when you see that amount of guys come out together at one time, I mean, even though they leave after the awards.

Justin King

Well, it's you can come down here and not go to a single class, and just the networking, you can go back to your course and you can learn a bunch just from talking to people. So, you know,

Chad Kintzer

that's why I never, I never, like for the golf, I say it every year. I don't ever put a team in like I'm friends with all a bunch of guys. I mean, I could get a whole bunch of the guys to play with, but I don't, I like to play and play with a different group each year. I mean, you know, you get to meet other people and just have a good time. I mean, that's the best place to really get to know somebody when you're not in like some type of, you know, Working environment or professional environment, you know, you're just out trying to have fun and that's why I enjoy it the golfing side of it anyway i'm terrible, but You're gonna stay a week over there. I'm not disagreeing with you It's nobody

MIC2

No, but i'm about

Trent Manning

to doze

MIC2

off

Trent Manning

here.

MIC2

I did now

Trent Manning

You'll put us right to sleep. Yeah. Mo. How did you find out about us?

Moe Rateb

So before me in my position, There were, my then assistant superintendent was the mechanic. And he went, because he's been in since high school, playing golf at that golf course. And My superintendent, Todd Baker. he's been like a member for like 40 years or something. And he told me about it. My assistant was like, Yeah, it's a great time. But when I came, I just came by myself. So like the network and everything, I met you. I discovered your podcast like a couple months before. So that got me in. And then The WhatsApp group after that, that, like, blew it open.

MIC1

The rest is history.

Moe Rateb

Yeah. What was your

MIC2

favorite part of the show? You've never

Trent Manning

you found the whatsapp group. I don't, that's a good question. I mean, I,

MIC2

your question.

Trent Manning

yeah, I always, yeah, of course it was a good question. I come

MIC2

up with it. Ha ha ha. Yeah. Don't hit the table.

Trent Manning

Yeah. I don't,

SOUND_PAD

Pshh!

Trent Manning

I got the sound effect right here. It's D I just got to remember. So yeah, y'all made the impersonation again of that. Still was really good. Still is always really good. Always enjoy that. I was surprised, though, that So many people raised their hand and said they grease the nasal needle bearing. Yeah. On the clutch drum of their chainsaws. And I'm sure some people do that, but I don't think there's a lot of people doing

MIC2

that. He

Justin King

called it out right there. I can't believe we have all these lines. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not ashamed to admit that I don't do it. Yeah. No, I've

Trent Manning

I've never done it. I didn't know it was a thing. I've replaced the needle

MIC2

bearings. Oh, sure. I didn't

Trent Manning

I didn't

Moe Rateb

on it but I put like

MIC1

he'd

Moe Rateb

PB Blaster or something on it, cause you know. But that chain guard thing, the chain catch. Where's the needle bearings? I didn't know that. In the clutch. In

Bryan Epland

the clutch. In the trunk. Take the drum off your needle bearings. He

Chad Kintzer

didn't even know where it was. I guess he's never greased it. I'm pretty sure I saw it with his hand up today too. No.

Jake Teeter

I was sleeping in it. No. I think I was in the shower. You said you were sleeping. Oh,

Chad Kintzer

that's probably when you were in the shower. I was in the shower then. Oh my God. Did you hear, did you hear about that one? No. So I come over late cause I had to go get blood work, you know, pull in, Jake's walking out through. I'm like, where are you going, man? He goes, man, my shower takes 20 minutes to warm up. He goes, I didn't have time to get a shower this morning because I'm going back home, back to the room to get a shower now. He goes, I'm just going to let it run until it gets hot. He goes, I took a cold shower yesterday. I'm not taking one.

MIC1

Yeah. I don't blame you there. I mean, life's

Trent Manning

too short to take a cold shower. No.

Moe Rateb

That's why I like hotels.

MIC1

hotel.

Moe Rateb

Another

Trent Manning

It's all good.

Moe Rateb

Unlimited hot showers.

Trent Manning

Mm.

Bryan Epland

He's got a hotel. Felt good today. Yeah, it's an unlimited hot shower if you let it warm up for 30 minutes. Yeah.

MIC2

Yeah.

Trent Manning

Well, we've only been going 30 minutes. We got a

Chad Kintzer

way to go Well, you know what you ought to do is tell a story about getting locked out of a room when he got here.

MIC1

Oh yeah. That's a

MIC2

good story. Yeah.

MIC1

Yeah. We can share that story.

Bryan Epland

Yeah so I got an Airbnb or something and me and Chad were hanging out in there. I got all my bags up there and then Jake gets a hold of them and says, Hey, let me ride with you. So we're like, well, shit. Sorry to curse him, but. So he said we gotta go down and get the golf bag. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna leave my phone up here in charge. So I'll text you my room code. So I wrote the code to the door. I text that to Chad. We go down there, come back up and the code won't work. And there's no way to get in. So, we try and try and try and get ourselves locked out any further than the keypad wouldn't work at that point. And so I'm like, alright, well I'll just go down to the lobby, surely she can get a hold of somebody. Because my phone's in the room, I can't get a hold of the owner. And so she says, well it's a private residence, we can't, we don't have their information, we have no way to get a hold of them. So, at this point, these guys leave. Oh, we did it.

Chad Kintzer

Don't you remember we were up there knocking on the door? Oh,

Bryan Epland

that's right, you tell that part of the story.

Chad Kintzer

So we're up there. We're knocking on doors. I said, well, I said, cause the balcony, you know, they're real close together. I said, well, maybe we can just, cause we, his balcony that locked it didn't work to lock the balcony. So they just put this little latch on it. Well, when we went out of the room, we left it unlatched for whatever reason. He's like, well, nobody's going to break in. So. So I'm like, I'm in my mind, I'm thinking, well, maybe I can just step across from one to the other. This is on the 14th

Bryan Epland

story.

Chad Kintzer

So I'm like, if it's not real far, I said, we can just step across. So we go back up to the room. I'm like, come on, let's go up. We're just going to knock on doors till somebody opens and we'll let us in. So the room to the right, there were no lights on the room to the left. There was lights on. So I'm standing there knocking on the door. All of a sudden the elevator opens up and these people come walking out, walk right to the door. I go, perfect. I was just knocking on your door. And they're all like, Oh my God, just, just let it go. And I'm like, I'm like, look, do you care if I come in your room? And I said, we were locked out of here. I said, can I come in your room and just go see how far it is from balcony to balcony? And the girl was like, Oh my God, no. And the dude's like, yeah, come on. So I go walking into Rome, go walking back through him. And I, he opens up the balcony. I go, look, I'm like, Oh, I said, there's no way I could do that. Cause it's so the, where the, you know, the wall's just real thin. But they have like a T, you know, so that you can't do exactly what I wanted to do. So I come walking back out and I go, yeah, I said, I don't think I could do it. Well, no, you're not doing it. Absolutely not. And then we leave.

Bryan Epland

Yeah, they left. And, and so then I ended up having to call Locksmith. Cause that's, I had to get in the room and I didn't have a choice. I couldn't get ahold of nobody. So I'm thinking he can just pick the lock and be in business. Well, he gets up there and he immediately goes, Oh, I'm in business. And I'm like, that can't be good. And he said, yeah, these things are new, and they're, like, he said, I can't get into this. I'm like, okay, well, I guess you have to drill it out. Like, what do you know when I gotta get in there? So, then there's these two lock boxes right below it for, like, the maids or whatever. I said, well, he starts drilling on the main lock, the expensive one. And I said, well, wait a minute, let's drill these, these out first. He's like, yeah, that's probably a good idea. I was like, I'm not the locksmith. Like, this is, you know, you should have thought of that before I did. So, he ends up drilling one open. We get it open. The key doesn't work. I'm like, oh, this is going great. 50 50 shot. We're already wrong. And so he gets the other one. It's a newer version, so it takes him like 10 minutes. He drills all over it. It won't open. Then he gets a pair of a screwdriver and breaks it open. And that key finally let me in. And it charged me like 250, 300, somewhere in there. But I'm gonna try to reimburse for it. We'll see. I mean Well, yeah.

MIC2

What about the, lock boxes?

Bryan Epland

They'll have to replace them. I got ahold of the owner once I got in there. And they were like, well why didn't you call us? I said, well I wish I could have, but my phone was in the room, locked up.

Chad Kintzer

Which was the funny part, because he was going to take it along.

MIC1

because he goes,

Chad Kintzer

So we were getting ready to leave, and he goes, well my phone needs charged. He goes, I'm really funny about making sure it's charged all the time. And I go, well, just leave it in here. Just text me the code. And I'm thinking in my mind, I have a terrible memory. If I look at a number and then I go to type it in again, I'll have to look back and forth like seven times. And even though it was only six numbers, I would have had to keep looking back and forth to get it. But he's just like, Oh, I got it. And he texted to me. And I'm thinking, man, that was awfully quick to know those six numbers. And I'm like, okay. So we go down and come back up and it wouldn't work. And the code wouldn't work. And I'm thinking. Are you sure you put, I know man, I looked right at him. I know I put them in right, but we blamed it on Jake. So it don't matter if you wouldn't arrive. I don't know how he thought he was going to fit into mini Cooper anyway. The clubs would barely fit in the back.

Bryan Epland

Yeah. So like after the locksmith and all that stuff, they, I get ahold of people finally, and they, they, so all they did was they reset the code. They took the old one out and put the new one in and it started working. And so we have no idea what happened. I, I don't know. And yeah, the lock boxes, they just said they'll have to replace them. I mean, it's not a big deal, but. But, I mean, that was the cheap alternative compared to that, I don't know, 400 touchpad lock thing they have. I don't know, but

Chad Kintzer

I tell you

Bryan Epland

what,

Chad Kintzer

he took

Bryan Epland

it

Chad Kintzer

way better than I would have. I was dying laughing, but it, because I wasn't in that situation. Probably if I'd have been in that situation. I don't think I would have handled

Bryan Epland

it as well as he did. I can't wait to tell Jordan Roth here just cause we had problems with my rental car down in Utah. So he had to rent it and he said, I tried to get him to come down here and he said, I'm not letting you rent a car. You, you, you're bad luck. So, I guess I'm

MIC1

bad. Yeah, it continues.

Chad Kintzer

was pretty funny.

Bryan Epland

It was. You took it like a champ

Chad Kintzer

though, man. Well, what was I gonna do? Get mad? Like, there was nothing to be mad about. I mean, I'm sure there was. You were locked out of your room. Your phone was in there. Jake made us a freaking video. Yeah, it's always my fault. I had my wallet. I was okay. I could

Bryan Epland

have went and gotten, like, dinner. You know, I'd have been alright. Yeah. Yeah, of all things to have, I had my wallet, not the thing I needed to get in the room.

Chad Kintzer

That was too much.

Bryan Epland

It was, it was a good time. So, basically, what we're saying, Jake, is you owe me 300 bucks.

MIC1

laughter take cash check or charge?

Jake Teeter

You take Bitcoin, I'll hook you up. Oh, sure, yeah.

Trent Manning

Bitcoin.

Jake Teeter

Jake

Moe Rateb

is our honorary that guy on the crew.

Trent Manning

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MIC2

was a little

Chad Kintzer

bigger, I think, this year than last year.

MIC2

Yeah, okay. I think there were a few more

Chad Kintzer

vendors. How about this?

Trent Manning

I'm waiting.

MIC1

Horry

Chad Kintzer

Georgetown. Yeah. Won the turf bowl again.

MIC2

Oh.

Chad Kintzer

Five years straight.

Trent Manning

think it's rigged.

Chad Kintzer

Don't think so. Those guys are pretty smart.

Trent Manning

Well, I mean, I'm

MIC2

saying they're not Since Charles

Chad Kintzer

Granger's been there. I think it's, what'd they say, 10 years or 11 years? He's won 10 of the 9 years they've won the turf bowl.

Trent Manning

and you don't think it's rigged.

Jake Teeter

It's in Burrell Beach. I'm not thinking we get an investigation.

Trent Manning

Yeah. Well, I don't know, you know,

Jake Teeter

question. You don't

Chad Kintzer

know what

Moe Rateb

the turf bowl is? I don't know what the

Jake Teeter

turf bowl

Moe Rateb

is. Quiz bowl. So all the colleges,

Chad Kintzer

they

MIC1

have

Chad Kintzer

like, competition for all the colleges. Like you saw NC State, Clemson. That's where all the kids are today. Yeah, they all have a competition and they ask them questions. And they have to answer the questions, and whoever answers the most correctly or whatever, they win the Turf Bowl. So what happens is, they have one at our level, so whoever wins this one gets to go to national, where they do at the national show. And that's where all the schools are that one. Cool. Yeah, so they've won five years in a row. Well, I guess they said they tied last year, but that's a win in my book. It's like the debate team of Yeah, I think there's like five or six of them on the team.

Jake Teeter

I've never heard of it before.

Chad Kintzer

Oh yeah, they do it every year.

Jake Teeter

Wow, I wonder where I was. Sleeping? Whose belly was that? Drinking. Is it yours? Yeah,

MIC2

it was

Chad Kintzer

mine. As soon as I heard it, I knew.

Trent Manning

Yeah. Had to be.

Chad Kintzer

Did that come up? I hope that came on the mic.

MIC1

It probably

Chad Kintzer

It was pretty loud, it was like, I don't

Jake Teeter

know. I don't think that was his belly.

Trent Manning

Ha, ha, ha,

Chad Kintzer

Bathroom's right there. Right in front of the wall.

Trent Manning

So, yeah.

Chad Kintzer

I thought the trade show was a little bigger. Last year, I don't remember them going all the way to the wall. Like, I thought they were. at least one row over from the wall. There was some empty space. On either side, I think it was. And, and last

MIC1

year,

Chad Kintzer

the, all of the dealers had

MIC1

a big,

Chad Kintzer

a large booth whereas Jacobson and Toro just have smaller booths this year. John Deere still has a pretty big one, but the other two only have a smaller booth. So small that Mike couldn't bring his van in.

Trent Manning

Is

Chad Kintzer

that really

Trent Manning

why he didn't bring

MIC2

it? No,

Chad Kintzer

he has it here. He just didn't park it in there. I think he has it here anyway. That's what he said. I

Bryan Epland

know he said it's in my driving car, but maybe that was him joking. No, he might have the van he might have drove the

Chad Kintzer

car But he couldn't he if he did it was because he couldn't put the van in there because the booth wasn't as big Because I said to him we were joking around when I was standing there Jake and I were standing there talking to him and I said, well, you should make a little golf

MIC1

cart

Chad Kintzer

Like a mini like he has a mini grinder. You can put the mini grinders into mini golf. Now, that would be

Bryan Epland

really cool Right.

MIC2

Yeah I would like that.

Chad Kintzer

That would

MIC1

be neat.

MIC2

Come on, they just said they're hiring for the market. I mean,

Trent Manning

a great idea.

Moe Rateb

I'm full of them, buddy.

Trent Manning

Yeah.

Moe Rateb

Okay, well.

Trent Manning

Yeah. Mike

MIC1

and

Moe Rateb

and Chad traveling the country. Oh

Chad Kintzer

boy. In Grindzilla. Mini Grindzilla. I'll drive Mini Grindzilla. Mark's, Mark's an R. M. P. I look like, I look like McGillicuddy.

Bryan Epland

sales tank and what's going on? I look like McGillicuddy

Chad Kintzer

driving the golf cart.

MIC2

Yeah. Yeah,

Trent Manning

did y'all see any new products on trade

MIC2

They

Moe Rateb

have a firefly there. Yeah, the Firefly was nice.

Trent Manning

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about the Firefly. All right. Good

Chad Kintzer

talk. I didn't, see

Bryan Epland

it, so.

Chad Kintzer

Well, I didn't really talk to him, I just saw it was sitting there. I mean, I've seen videos of it and stuff. The thing looks amazing. I don't know what the Firefly is. Autonomous mower. But the big one.

Trent Manning

you know, it's not like a little

MIC1

Husqvarna.

Chad Kintzer

even notice what it was. Yeah, you know me,

Bryan Epland

if it's not green, I ain't looking at it.

Chad Kintzer

Well, it's just sitting there, it's like, it's, it's kinda, so what I saw was, it's all the way, if you walk in the front door where we walk in, it's in the back left corner. Yeah, I didn't make it

Bryan Epland

back there.

Chad Kintzer

Yeah, it's all the way in the back. There was a bunch of people around it when I walked past there. I mean, I didn't stop and talk to them, like I said, I've seen videos and stuff online, but I mean, it's, it's pretty cool.

Moe Rateb

It looked pretty nimble and quick

Chad Kintzer

in the video that they had. Yeah. Well, you know, and honestly, seeing it in person, like I haven't ever seen it in person, it looked a lot smaller than what it looks like on the videos. Like, it looks pretty big on the videos. And seeing it in

Moe Rateb

person, it looked fairly small. But it's like a totally different beast than the Cress or the Husqvarna or some of the other ones that they've had out there. The little vacuum cleaner looking mowers.

MIC1

I thought

Trent Manning

the reels were interesting.

MIC2

Yeah, I didn't even their adjustments. So

Trent Manning

it's, it's a, a fixed bed knife, but you know, kind of like a QA seven or some.

MIC2

I don't,

Trent Manning

Toro have any fixed bed knives now?

MIC2

Not that I'm aware of. I've never seen one. Yeah. Not that I know of.

Trent Manning

I want to say back in the day they had something that

MIC2

was fixed. I don't remember what it was. Well, yeah, I'm not sure. Sorry.

Trent Manning

But anyway,

MIC2

yeah,

Trent Manning

so fixed bed knife. So the reel adjusts to the bed knife and

MIC2

it was

Trent Manning

a click system.

MIC2

The guy said

Trent Manning

65 tenths.

MIC2

Per click, you know Toro's

Trent Manning

Seven tenths or whatever. So

MIC2

john deere's 5

Trent Manning

tenths.

MIC2

So they wanted a

Trent Manning

I guess

MIC2

I don't know

Chad Kintzer

surprisingly well worth it. Fixed bed knife. I wonder why they did that.

Trent Manning

I don't

MIC2

Was it a 7 inch cutting unit? Yeah. Well, i'd say

Trent Manning

that i'm pretty

MIC2

I mean, that's what John Deere is, what the rear one is. When the

Trent Manning

guy did say that

MIC2

So

Trent Manning

it had a JRM reel and a JRM bed knife,

MIC2

but it's Toro Dimensions. So he could you could put

Trent Manning

a Toro in

MIC2

it if you wanted to, Yeah,

Bryan Epland

a Toro would be

Trent Manning

bed knives.

Bryan Epland

Well, that's kind of nice, then you have, you can, you got a little bit of versatility to them. If you're an all Toro or something, then you could just transfer parts or

MIC1

Yeah, and

Trent Manning

then, yeah, I don't know, it's

MIC2

it's definitely a little different

Trent Manning

because

MIC2

it's more

Trent Manning

a QA7 because the front roller

MIC2

is

Trent Manning

adjustable, you know, with, you know,

MIC2

positions. But

Trent Manning

the height of cuts adjusted from the rear roller. Hmm. So, yeah, I don't know. A little, little different Yeah.

MIC2

know, like

Trent Manning

a, a combo between a Toro

Bryan Epland

and a Deere. One question that I've kind of had about these autonomous mowers is, you know, say you do come across like a ball marker or something, especially a real mower, I mean, is, you know, is that just something that's going to get hit? And I guess it'd be no different than, you know, the operator hitting something, but, you know. The operator might be able to see that on the next pass that, you know, is that, I've, I've not been around it so I guess I'm asking a question, but is that something that that mower can see or, or sense or?

Moe Rateb

Toro came out with a video on one of the emails for golf course industry. And they were talking about their next iteration of the Triplex having cameras and lasers or some kind of technology that would have a visual on stuff like that. Yeah, so it's on their mind at least.

Bryan Epland

That's good to hear.

MIC1

Yeah, it's like, is it

Trent Manning

LIDAR

MIC2

That does that probably. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Where

Trent Manning

like my 3D printer has got

MIC2

that lidar, so if

Trent Manning

you know something happens with the print,

MIC2

it'll stop itself. Oh yeah. Yeah. It has be something like that. The Same

Trent Manning

technology, I guess.

Moe Rateb

sprinkler heads.

Trent Manning

Yeah. Can it tell

MIC2

sprinkler heads up I hope so. right over it. Oh boy. That could be a mess. Yeah.

Trent Manning

be a mess.

Moe Rateb

But the one thing I did notice, there was no contact. And it was super easy to spin the reel

Trent Manning

Yeah, because electric motor

Moe Rateb

you

Trent Manning

know, no hydraulic

Moe Rateb

pressure because we use the 25 50 john dears and they're pretty easy, but this one was just I don't know if it was because it's brand new, but it was It felt nice to spin it Until you get your finger

MIC2

and I did it I asked the guy

Trent Manning

and they

MIC2

said a

Trent Manning

light contact,

MIC2

but I guess,

Trent Manning

you know, if it's based

MIC2

on a Toro cut maybe they didn't adjust it.

Bryan Epland

Well, for the show they probably don't have them. I mean, I would think they wouldn't have it adjusted to cut paper at the show.

Moe Rateb

We'll have to go back tomorrow with our little slips. Yeah. Yeah. Go down to the T TAC booth, there's plenty of them. That's a real test right

MIC2

there. Well,

Trent Manning

I did ask him if it would fit on a lift

MIC2

because it looks really wide,

Trent Manning

but he said it would.

MIC2

So how does that work? I wonder. How do you get it on the lift?

Trent Manning

That I don't

MIC2

I think there's a remote for it.

Trent Manning

Yeah, I don't know

MIC2

if it's a remote or if

Trent Manning

like stand on the

MIC2

back. It has a

Moe Rateb

Playstation controller. Yeah, okay. Interesting. No wait, that was another one. My bad, sorry. But it's either way.

MIC1

Yeah,

Trent Manning

I don't know that I got that. Nope. No,

MIC2

Darn it.

Trent Manning

not that one.

MIC2

That

Trent Manning

I have to get that sound

MIC2

effect

Trent Manning

and make sure I, I get it on

MIC2

here for 2025 There you go. New sound

Trent Manning

effect. It'll, it'll debut one year from today.

Moe Rateb

But yeah, I did see a plate motion controller for one of them. Where you had to move it from fairway to fairway or rough to rough between holes.

Trent Manning

I don't that was probably this one, wasn't it?

Moe Rateb

Cause no, it was I can't remember the name, but it was like a purple blue one that he said site one is going to be the distributor.

Trent Manning

the distributor

Justin King

You guys see that one? I don't even know what it was. I didn't get a chance to look at it closely, but the smaller one that was on tracks. What was that?

Moe Rateb

The

Justin King

rhino? Yeah.

Moe Rateb

Oh, it was a rough mower.

Justin King

Okay. That's what I figured, but people were around it and I wasn't. But it wasn't autonomous,

Moe Rateb

it was remote controlled. Yeah, it was remote

Bryan Epland

controlled, but that looked pretty cool. Yeah, because Mike Rollins was saying that I think,

MIC1

uh,

Bryan Epland

Femke at Big Cedar has one or something at the new course they've got there. What's the benefits of having? Well, because if you got real steep slopes, it's got the tracks to be able to go up and down it. Yeah, what's the

MIC2

difference if you have an operator or not? Well, if, safer. Yeah. Yeah, if it flips over and there's not an operator on it, it

Trent Manning

might be safer. Just a

MIC2

Well, no, I'm just saying though,

Chad Kintzer

I don't, I, I understand that. It might have an operator on it and they're like, hey, watch this. I don't know what the benefit would be of it, like, I mean, I would wait. Well, yeah, I mean. Other than that, other

MIC1

they're saying,

Chad Kintzer

you know. But I mean, that would be the only

MIC1

put anybody

Chad Kintzer

That would be the only application that you would think it would be useful with a remote. Well, right, that's, but I

Bryan Epland

think that's what it is. Or maybe even around ponds and stuff, you know. all. I guess. This is the guy that, you know, one of the cross balconies on the 14th story says safety. Yeah, right,

MIC2

Yeah.

Bryan Epland

All about

Chad Kintzer

safety. You know. Safety. That's right. Kayla and I were talking about that today. About safety and safety glasses. We were saying how I was telling her, she was telling me some stories and I was telling her some stories and I was like, I was like, yeah. I said, I've done a few stupid things and I, I used to work in a garage and I never wore safety glasses. I was just, you know, you know how you're, when you're young, you're just dumb. And we used to do exhaust. I know, I'm still young.

Trent Manning

I

Chad Kintzer

still wearing,

Trent Manning

safety glasses like I should.

Chad Kintzer

I just squint my eyes a little bit. I can see better that way. Safety squid. Yeah. So, I was cutting the exhaust off of this car and on the muffler clamp, you cut on either side of it, hit it with a hammer, and you know, it would break it.

MIC1

Right off and

Chad Kintzer

You can cut the pipe out or whatever. So I'm, it's dark, it's nighttime and I'm in there blowing, I don't have any safety glasses or nothing on. And I hit the air to, you know, blow the lava out. And I, all I see is this frigging molten lava coming right at my face. And luckily, you know, you have quick reactions when stuff's coming to your eye. And I closed my eye real quick and it landed. Literally across the opening in my eye with my eye closed I had a burn on the top and the bottom that burned my eyelashes and everything off and I said From that day forward I wear safety glasses no matter what I'm so big on safety glasses now I'm like if I guys come in the shop and help and they're doing something blowing or grinding or anything I'm like, hey, man, get your safety glasses on Oh,

Bryan Epland

I know

Chad Kintzer

and that was my that's Kayla said that was your one warning I said it was, and I took it I said, ever since then I said, I never did it again without safety glasses. I said, that was really close, really close. There was another one I told her too, but I don't remember that one. We're

MIC1

We're dying to know I don't remember.

Trent Manning

Yeah

Chad Kintzer

I'm old. I remember that one. Oh, I know what it was.'cause we started talking about the chainsaws'cause they were doing the steel thing and she was saying that her guys at her shop, there was an old guy that doesn't wear Chad. They finally talked him into wearing them. I said, well, one of my good friends, he has a tree business. And I said, I'd always help him and stuff, you know, you know, we always wore gloves and, you know, hard hat and safety glasses, but we never wore chaps or anything, you know, and he always climbed the trees and stuff. And I'm down there cutting a log or something up and I was undercutting it and it started to pinch the saw and I pulled it out real quick. And what I did, it came down and hit, at that time I wore blue jeans. Luckily, it hit my blue jeans, tore three holes in my blue jeans, but never got my

MIC1

leg

Chad Kintzer

I mean, it was so close. Yeah. Wow. They're

Bryan Epland

worth it, for sure.

Chad Kintzer

What's that? Blue jeans? Yeah, blue jeans, yeah. I mean, they were in style then. I washed them and the holes kept getting bigger.

MIC1

I should

Chad Kintzer

have kept them and sold them. People make good money for that. I could have got a couple hundred bucks for them now, at least.

MIC1

for

Chad Kintzer

with butts all worn out from sitting on them all the time.

Trent Manning

What else? Oh,

Moe Rateb

Look at the OSHA things that she was talking about. Their what was it, their incident reports. Oh yeah, I was actually

Bryan Epland

curious about that. How do you guys put those online? You know,

Chad Kintzer

she's really smart. Oh yeah, yeah. She is, just.

Bryan Epland

So, for people that weren't there since we're doing a podcast. During her class she was talking about, who's she? Caleb, Caleb, Caleb. Sorry. She was talking about how they were there. Yeah. Yeah. She's doing a podcast. Yeah. You know, you know, so she was, she was for her guys she goes on the OSHA website and gets the incidences that kind of are related to what they do at the golf course. And she puts one in the break room tables. I think is what she said periodically. Yeah. Which is, I think is an eye opener.

Chad Kintzer

That's kind of cool. So that's the stuff that she said. So that's the stuff that she tells them. She thinks they're not just telling them. For just to be a jerk so that they can see that that stuff really does happen.

MIC2

Well

MIC1

thought

Trent Manning

Mark was good showing the hamburger meat,

MIC2

you

Trent Manning

know, and really driving it home. Like, if you get a chainsaw cut, this is what it's going to

MIC2

look like. Yeah, he's really good. Yeah, there's

Trent Manning

there's not any sewing this back

MIC2

together Cause yeah, there's nothing

Trent Manning

Because yeah, there's nothing there to sew together

MIC2

not a clean

Trent Manning

out. Yeah These microphones are really sensitive. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

MIC2

How's my belly? It was growling.

Moe Rateb

Giggling. Hour of giggling. You awake over there,

Jake Teeter

buddy? barely Oh, I'm barely hanging on. What was your favorite part of the trade show, Jake? The hose reel. The hose cart.

Chad Kintzer

The 1,

Jake Teeter

700 hose cart? 1, 700 hose cart. 1, 700 hose cart. 1, 700 hose cart. Bulletproof.

Trent Manning

Bulletproof. Bulletproof.

Chad Kintzer

The hose or the cart? The whole assembly. Oh, he was so excited about that thing. He's like, look at that, man. Justin's like, I just made one, man. Yeah,

MIC2

I made one

Trent Manning

I bought the hose reel and I bought a trailer from Northern for 300

MIC2

That's what we got. And a piece of plywood.

Trent Manning

I didn't even do plywood. I just, Hose reel straight to the trailer

Jake Teeter

Fits straight on the frame?

Trent Manning

Mm hmm.

Jake Teeter

Okay. Well, when I started, all the wires were on plywood, which is all rotten now after 14 years. And the last one we did, we did with decking material that What do you call that?

Trent Manning

I

Jake Teeter

like treks Yeah treks. We used treks to put down the deck and then bolted it in. Is that working pretty good? Yeah, it works good. and I figured out that the frames break on the reels.

MIC2

Mm hmm.

Jake Teeter

Because there's no support for them. So I mounted a, a shelf bracket

MIC1

shell bracket to

Jake Teeter

to the deck and to the frame. And so no more flex, no more breaking the frames. Works great.

MIC2

Nice.

Trent Manning

Yeah, the northern trailers I got,

MIC2

an

Trent Manning

cut the axle in half and extended

MIC2

it

Trent Manning

so

MIC2

I can

Trent Manning

put golf cart tires

MIC2

on it. Huh. And other wider tires, Yeah, that's what this

Trent Manning

come with those super

Jake Teeter

skinny ones. Yeah, that's what this has. Those big wide tires. Yeah, yeah. I like that set up. But it had, where you hook the hose up, instead of being inside the frame of the reel, it actually has a curved section that comes out right to the edge so you can just screw your hose on and start wrapping it instead of having to feed it inside and hook it with the hull. Stupid hook that always comes undone.

Trent Manning

I saw it in the front

MIC2

Right

Chad Kintzer

inside the front door it was.

Jake Teeter

Yeah, they ask. H& H. H& H.

Trent Manning

H. Yeah,

MIC1

H

Jake Teeter

Yeah, H& H I think.

Trent Manning

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw

Jake Teeter

it. It says like right when you walk in the door. Yeah, right inside the front door. Fire engine red. Yeah. What do you guys use for hoses on your hose carts?

MIC2

I don't,

Trent Manning

I don't know

MIC2

I mean we keep

Trent Manning

buying hoses and they keep,

MIC2

they don't time at all. Don't matter what you get.

Jake Teeter

Red Underhill

MIC1

is

Jake Teeter

has lasted the best so far, but it's heavy. It's heavy, yeah. It's heavy, heavy, heavy. But it turns out, all of them, the clear one, the green, the blue, have a lifetime warranty.

Trent Manning

Really?

Jake Teeter

I didn't know, we'd already thrown a couple of them away before. Yeah.

MIC2

huh, I didn't know that.

Trent Manning

Yeah,

MIC2

that's good to know because yeah, I don't know how many we've thrown away. Thousands. Yeah, Definitely thousands of dollars worth. Oh yeah. Houses, because that stuff's

Trent Manning

take long. Most things are, yeah, expensive. Yeah, I'll check into that.

MIC2

Well, you

Trent Manning

heard it here first,

MIC2

people.

Trent Manning

Lifetime warranty on, on,

MIC2

Well, it was from Jake, so.

Trent Manning

hoses.

Chad Kintzer

He pulls the flags out as he's driving across. Let me fact check.

Trent Manning

Yeah, that's true.

Chad Kintzer

We better not just hold that to fact. Come on now. You may

Justin King

have heard it first.

Chad Kintzer

Well, you've definitely heard it first. You're never going to hear it

Moe Rateb

again.

MIC2

You've definitely heard

Moe Rateb

it. Guaranteed consumer tips

Chad Kintzer

from Jake. Thanks. So what what do you think about the tournament? The Eric Duncanson Memorial Tournament. You drove all the way from Georgia, all the way

Trent Manning

Oh, yeah, that was awesome. I mean, it was a lot of fun. I definitely like coming to

MIC2

support

Trent Manning

TTAC and

MIC2

Benevolence

Trent Manning

Fund. I mean, it's great.

MIC2

And, I mean,

Trent Manning

a bummer that

MIC2

Right, you know the weather and

Trent Manning

all that, the

MIC2

storms come

Trent Manning

through and I heard a lot of people couldn't make it because of that, which I totally understand.

MIC2

So

Trent Manning

hopefully next year have even better turnout.

MIC2

Yeah, was that good old jake's golf course? Yes, it was which was in

Jake Teeter

fantastic shape

Trent Manning

and it's

Jake Teeter

Justin's golf course next year. Yep. Yeah, not official yet, but we're working on it

Chad Kintzer

So here we go jake light again

MIC2

Hmm

Chad Kintzer

Yeah, I thought the golf course was great, I know it was just funny cuz he's like it's like oh man Everybody's gonna come up here and make fun of my crappy golf course. I'm like, I'm like who would do that? I said nobody's gonna make fun of your course. First of all, it's not even crappy. I said it's great I said I thought it was an awesome shape

Trent Manning

Yeah. The only thing we made fun of was the steak sandwich that Jack recommended.

MIC2

yeah, that was pretty bad.

Chad Kintzer

That was very bad Oh, the night before. Yeah. At the restaurant. Yeah. Everybody changed their mind and got the steak sandwich because he recommended it. I had something picked out. Yeah, we all did.

Jake Teeter

I know you guys asked me and I said, I don't know, just, everything's good. Yeah. you said everything was good. And then I went to the steak sandwich and everybody started ordering steak sandwich. I'm like, oh, shit.

MIC2

Yep,

Trent Manning

It was not good

Chad Kintzer

not good. So, it was made with real steak. And they sliced it, looked like with a knife, like maybe quarter inch strips, yeah? And it was the toughest. Oh, it was bad. Freaking gristliest. The gristliest. If you would bite into it, the whole piece of steak would come out of the bun. The whole, like, four inches long. It was so bad. It was terrible. I think it was liquid.

Trent Manning

was microwave. Yeah and I think the bun was three times

MIC2

bigger than the stand. Yeah, it was, it was

Trent Manning

And it wasn't like it was a big

MIC2

bond. It was bad. So we

Chad Kintzer

know, we should have known when Jake recommended it, had we known. Old Mr. Credibility himself. Yeah. Old Mr. Lifetime Hoses

MIC2

himself.

Bryan Epland

It's

Chad Kintzer

on the podcast now, you can't erase it.

Jake Teeter

Somebody call Uber, I gotta get out of here. You guys can have fun, make some money.

Chad Kintzer

Oh man, well that was the best part of the tournament. We were just having, me, it was me, Justin, Jake, and Lee Carmichael. And oh my god, we were just cutting up the whole entire time. It was so much fun. It was a blast.

MIC2

Yeah, I'm gonna

Trent Manning

to get golf clubs and

Chad Kintzer

Oh, it's just fun.

Trent Manning

I can do it one time.

Chad Kintzer

It's just fun cutting out, man. It's just, I just love just going and just, like, I'm not good. So it's, to me, it's funny when I talk smack to somebody else when they hit a bad shot because 9 chance out of 10, mine's gonna be worse, so. You, you can borrow mine if you need some clothes. Okay. You're not left handed, probably.

Trent Manning

I don't, I mean,

MIC2

I mean. If you've never golfed, I guess either way. Yeah.

Trent Manning

It, it really don't matter matter. I

MIC2

think you can always borrow mine, but

Chad Kintzer

add an extra set of down. I did too. Did Well, you get a, oh, there you go. When it's at his tournament, you can just come out

Jake Teeter

and you get Daniel Garing ability on number two. And I said, you, you and Laura drove up in the beverage cart and I said, you watch somebody hit this image right here and damn if I didn't, he hit it right where he said

Chad Kintzer

he was going to.

Justin King

Just about 10 yard shorter.

MIC1

Yeah.

Justin King

You can make it past the red tees. It was so fun. Yeah, that was funny. We had so much fun that day, Chad and his. This is Myrtle Beach Dinosaur Putt Putt Putter. He was making fun of

Chad Kintzer

my putter. It's a two ball putter. I don't know what he was making fun of. He just didn't like it had a regular, it didn't have one of the fat grips on it. It just has a regular little grip on it. It's almost the same as his putter. I don't know what he was talking about. It's just funny you make fun of you. It is funny.

Trent Manning

I mean, I like when guys talk about their putters, you know, and compare their

MIC2

putters with

Bryan Epland

each other. Yeah,

Trent Manning

Really

MIC2

good

Bryan Epland

Oh

Chad Kintzer

no, I got a small putter. Trust me. Listen, can I tell you the funniest thing? So before we started playing, Justin had never played golf before. And he's going, we're, you were there when we're at his shop. Remember, we're still walking around. He goes, man, he goes, I'm so excited to play golf. I've been watching YouTube videos for, for like weeks now. And I'm like, you've been watching videos? Yeah, man. And I was going to the range and we get out there. I'll tell you what, he was hitting a crap out of the ball. I was like, Holy crap. Yeah. He was

MIC1

to start watching some

Chad Kintzer

yeah, no lie. Cause he was hitting the ball 10 times better than I was. Yeah. He was smoking them. I mean he was hitting them out there really far. He was keeping up with Lee and Lee's like a four handicap or something. He's, Lee's really good. But clarify, just my drives. Right. Well, everything else. That's true. He must only watch dry videos. Yeah, I didn't watch any iron videos. Well how about Lee eagled the last hole himself? Yeah. And he was this far away from the longest drop. Yeah. Crazy, I mean, good boy. Yeah, he's funny. He was at the, he was at the J. R. M. night. He's always so funny. Him and his buddies, there's one guy, Rooster. That's what they call him out there. Every time they see me, it's always, they always laugh at each other. They're funny guys, good guys.

MIC2

I like, it's one of the great things about the industry. It's, you know, I mean, we have fun, you know? And how long have we known each other? I mean, not that long. Like, 30 years, maybe. I mean, like, we're in the Army together or something, you know, for four years or something, you know. But, yeah, just everybody you meet, you feel like you've known for a long time. Yeah, without a doubt. So, it's something special. I

Bryan Epland

was talking to Andrew today from Old Eleanor. And, him and I were joking back and forth. I mean, we met briefly in Phoenix, but we were just sitting next to each other joking back and forth. You know, it's funny, we're kept in the same cloth, even though we come from a lot of different backgrounds. It's good. You can't crack a joke or two as long as they're willing to listen.

MIC1

Yeah, I

Trent Manning

think, and I mean,

MIC2

there's always a few, I guess, but for the most part. As long as it doesn't involve yum yum sauce, it's okay. yeah, yeah. yeah. I mean, you know, you cross the line sometimes when you start talking about yum yum sauce and the guy's telling a story.

Trent Manning

What do you expect?

Justin King

His face was the best. He was like,

Chad Kintzer

You interrupted my conversation for effing yum yum sauce?

MIC1

He stared me

Chad Kintzer

down for like 30 seconds and I was like, I think the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. What hairs? If I had hairs.

MIC1

good point.

Chad Kintzer

The hairs that should be there were standing up.

Justin King

But even that, you know. You can't stay mad at Chad for too long.

Chad Kintzer

He's fat and stupid. You just gotta get over it. Oh man.

Bryan Epland

He's all about self positivity.

Trent Manning

Yes, yeah, yep.

Chad Kintzer

That's like, that's like, Steve, my boss, always yells at me. Cause I'm always my worst critic forever. And I'm sure we all are. But during the tournament, we had the PGA tournament here. And it was like a dream to have it. You know what I mean? To work at a golf course that hosted a tournament. And one of the team owners was out there and blew a hydraulic hose. And I was just like, I mean, we tore it apart, got it repaired, got it back going again. But I came back into the shop, man. I closed the door. I'm freaking, I'm in there. I'm half ball and it's just like, I'm like, Oh my God, I'm like, how could I go and let something so stupid happen? For something I mean it was and you could see the hose was warm like rusted I'm like, how could I miss that? you know, I'm going over this stuff for the three months, you know with a fine tooth comb and I missed this and you know, Tim Krieger and all of them were here and you know, I mean I get mad at myself, but I get over it You know what? I mean? It's not like I'm gonna quit my job or whatever It's just I'm very disappointed in myself at the time, you know, and they're all like, oh, it's alright, man Krieger told the story about when he had a leak course or whatever. And, you know, Steve, my boss pulled me aside. He's like, Hey man, he's like, you just got to let it go. He goes, you got to stop being so hard on yourself. And I'm like, I'm like, I said, I'm fine, Steve. I said, it's just, I'm disappointed in what happened. You know, I said, you know, I've been looking forward to this for how long, you know, and then something like that happens, which is like, for me, it's a cardinal sin, you know? And it's, he's like, Oh, he's like, man, this place looks as good as it does because of you. And he said, it's, you know, just let it go. I'm like, I'm good. I'm fine. You know, and Hour later, I was fine. After I just got stuck pouting and

Bryan Epland

whining. I mean, you know, self criticism is always the harshest form of criticism. You know, it's, we're all hard on ourselves. So, that's probably why we're in our positions. I guess. Maybe why, why we accelerate. The

Chad Kintzer

thing mine has to do for my dad yelling at me all the time. I figured if I yelled at myself and then maybe he wouldn't yell at me so much.

MIC1

Doesn't really work

Chad Kintzer

that way though. Does it? No, no.

Trent Manning

Yeah

Chad Kintzer

I like those memes, the stuff you see on Facebook, you know, with the kids. You can tell these days they never had to hold their flashlight for their dad. yeah, yeah. That's the truth.

MIC2

Woo! Yeah.

Trent Manning

I'll never

MIC2

forget those days. Oh

Chad Kintzer

Mike, you could never have that on the podcast. It would be just one long beep. My dad yelling at me with the flashlight. Over! And I'm not even going to say it.

MIC1

it.

MIC2

Hold it

Trent Manning

where I can

MIC2

see, boy, not where you can see.

Trent Manning

That's what I heard. I don't know how

Chad Kintzer

Well, you know, I think my problem was I would never pay attention. I'd stand there and hold the light. Oh wow, look at that. And the next thing you know, the light's over here. I remember one time we were driving down the road and my dad, we were backing out of something and he turned around like this to back up and my, one of my friends was in the car with us and he leaned like this to look in the middle and my dad reached back and smacked him in the back of the head and I go, you got smacked and it wasn't me this time.

Bryan Epland

I figured the next thing you were going to say was your dad turned around and smacked you too. So I probably, he probably did. He probably blocked that one out.

Chad Kintzer

For laughing at him. Days. We're ready

Trent Manning

to wrap it up?

Chad Kintzer

What time is it? I mean we could just go until tomorrow morning and pull in all night. Oh yeah, why not?

Trent Manning

no. We only got, yeah, 28 minutes, but.

MIC2

Yeah, I'm ready to go. Yeah, we're good.

Trent Manning

Yep, I'm good.

MIC2

Thanks for doing this buddy. no, thank you, Chad, Thanks for,

Trent Manning

yeah, having us

MIC2

Don't forget to plug for everybody else for,

Trent Manning

for being here, and. Yeah,

MIC2

Yeah, thanks for the invite.

MIC1

invite.

Trent Manning

Yeah, no, it's

MIC2

It's been fun.

Trent Manning

I mean, it's always

MIC2

fun,

Moe Rateb

I wonder how this is going to turn out. I Don't you know, it's

MIC2

the

Trent Manning

art of editing.

MIC2

amazing what you can do Oh man. podcast

Trent Manning

Well, we'll see what the one microphone does and

MIC2

And me

Trent Manning

hitting mute so we don't get Mike bleed as much

Chad Kintzer

Oh, is that what that button's for?

Trent Manning

yeah, yeah. That's why

MIC2

I hit that mutes this mic. Oh, okay.

Trent Manning

And that's the biggest problem about recording in a room like this is my bleed. And you basically have to manually go through and scrub each section.

MIC2

So

Trent Manning

it takes forever to edit one

MIC2

of these.

Chad Kintzer

You think there would be something like a program you could just go in and it would just go through and,

MIC2

whoop! Okay. So, Like the

Trent Manning

software I use, it says Mike bleed

MIC2

detected. Would you like to eliminate it? And you select yes, but it doesn't eliminate any of it. I don't understand

Trent Manning

why it even tells you. I mean, it's basically like telling you,

MIC2

you really screwed up and you're going to pay for this.

Trent Manning

click. Yes.

MIC2

To continue.

Justin King

Yeah. Yeah,

Trent Manning

Thank y'all.

Chad Kintzer

Thank you. Yeah, thank you.

Trent Manning

thank you so much for listening to the Reel turf techs podcast. I hope you learned something today. Don't forget to subscribe. If you have any topics you'd like to discuss, or you'd like to be a guest, find us on Twitter at Reel turf techs.