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What if the secret to a thriving relationship lies beyond monogamy? Join us as we explore this provocative realm with our fascinating guests: Rose, a renowned OnlyFans creator, and the vibrant duo, Ash and Tanya from Smash Bus. These trailblazers share their insights and personal anecdotes, challenging the stereotypes and misconceptions surrounding swinging and open relationships. Through humor and honesty, they reveal how they juggle their unconventional personal lives with their equally intriguing professional ventures.
Listeners will be drawn into the importance of honest communication in non-monogamous relationships and how it fosters genuine connections devoid of taboo. Our guests candidly discuss the dynamics of open relationships, offering perspectives on managing jealousy and the excitement of lifestyle events. For those curious about whether this lifestyle might suit them, the conversation provides a balanced view, encouraging exploration without pressure. The episode also sheds light on the often misunderstood aspects of being an OnlyFans creator, revealing surprising encounters and the thoughtful considerations involved in content creation.
We'll also navigate the intricate etiquette of swinging and the evolving perceptions of the adult entertainment industry. Through stories of unexpected hotel encounters and discussions on personal boundaries, Rose, Ash, and Tanya challenge us to question societal norms and our comfort zones. This conversation promises to be as enlightening as it is entertaining, providing a fresh perspective on modern relationships and the choices that fuel them. Prepare to have your assumptions turned on their head as we uncover the vibrant, complex world of swinging and open relationships.
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Swinging Lifestyle and Ethical Relationships
Speaker 1People don't like the term swinger. I can hold my hands and go. We are swingers. It's what it is. We don't need a fancy word to dress it up.
Speaker 2An 80-year-old guy getting pegged by his wife around the pool. And he had a little cage on as well.
Speaker 3I see crazy things on a daily basis. I've seen a man put a rolling pin up his back door.
Speaker 4What on camera?
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, we would advocate it by educating people.
Speaker 2People swinging is not what is stereotyped we're in a club and I was playing with this woman and then I just felt someone grab me, look down and there's just some guy in a suit people ask like weird objects to be inserted cucumber and there's no price no, I ain't doing that, jesus 100k everyone has a price, so maybe, maybe 100k.
Speaker 4I could not watch my girl do anything.
Speaker 1I couldn't do it honestly and would that be, even if she come to you and said I would really like to bring a girl in?
Speaker 4Oh no, then that's. I know you like that. I know you like that. Welcome back to the Cancer Culture Podcast, where we talk about modern relationships, culture and ethnic trending. It's Miss Anson here. Why himself? Because obviously my co-host isn't here. Because epic trending. It's Miss Anson here. Why himself? Because obviously my co-host isn't here because he's a part-timer. And yes, I'm calling you out BK. Okay. Well, apart from that, if it's your first time on the show, make sure you subscribe to the channel. Press the subscribe button, turn it on, subscribe to subscribe and get our subscribers up to 7,000. We are on the road. Can I get an amen from the guests? Amen, there we go, because we need energy, energy in the studio today. So I've got some lovely guests, as you can see, we're introducing one by one.
Speaker 4We'll start with you Sam, name, age what you do for living relationship status, if you can remember all those questions, sorry, if you need help okay, rose 28 from Manchester, um, I do OnlyFans and I'm a cam girl.
Speaker 3I'm single single.
Speaker 4Yes, she belongs to the streets. So, cam girl, we'll get into that a little bit. On the other one in the show, we'll go to the middle.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm Ash. I'm 31 from Leeds.
Speaker 5I'm a window cleaner.
Speaker 2Oh really, yeah, yeah. And then I've got a swinging events company okay.
Speaker 4I've got the smash Bus.
Speaker 2To make a lot yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, a Smash Bus. What's that Should we get into?
Speaker 5that a bit later. Yeah, okay, let me jot that down.
Speaker 4I wonder what the Smash Bus is about. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure what that would be about. I'm going to ask, okay, relationship status obviously I'm married.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh, okay to me, oh you're married.
Speaker 4Oh, questions, questions, okay, no problem, and the end so I'm tanya, from leeds, also married to ash.
Speaker 1I'm 35, um, I've got a salon where I predominantly do hair and beauty and we run the events company with ash. And then I've got a wife on the side as well do you run, run everything together. Yeah, like you do loads of stuff then.
Speaker 4Very busy, like you've got buses where you smash and then you've got a window Like the windows is that a job or do you?
Speaker 2Yeah, like full-time business, yeah.
Speaker 4Oh, so you run the business, yeah, yeah, okay. So you run the windows. Yeah, you smash, yeah you, you fix the hair, the hair so you okay.
Speaker 1So this is how it goes right, right, let me quarterback it.
Speaker 4So obviously you meet them because you're cleaning the windows, you might see something, and you, like you, invite them to the smash boss. Yep, yeah, and then, after the smash boss, they have to go to your salon to get the hair done. Yeah, right, is that how it works?
Speaker 1it's all great business, great how it works. Great business, great business.
Speaker 4Very good, okay, so obviously you're swingers, so I can ask you a bit about that. Actually, before we do the Smash Boss, please. How did that come about? What's that about?
Speaker 2So it started, like I read it, with one of my friends called Liam. So we had like loads of ideas to begin with, because obviously we've got a lot of swinging clubs and there seems to be way more women than there is guys. So together we're just having to run through all the women together making sure everyone gets a go. And we're like we should film this. And then we went should we do it in a hotel? We're like no, that's too annoying, set all cameras and everything up. And then we're like like why don't we just remake the old school american bang bus and do it over here? So then you know what a bus so the uk customize it.
Speaker 2Yeah, and then now that's ours. The random people thing right, is that real? So the random people think not real, because obviously people are not tested. Oh yeah, okay. So yeah, it's just like active, yeah, it's like oh, I'm lost, give me directions.
Speaker 4Yeah, um, so the swingers lifestyle. So how does it work? Like, how do you qualify?
Speaker 3like, do you?
Speaker 4have to get a license or like how do you qualify to be? You know what?
Speaker 1we're swingers there's no license. Uh, it's just, it's a lifestyle choice. So if you want to open your relationship up and invite in women or men or couples or multiple people, um then you'd be a swinger. I mean, a lot of people don't call it swinging anymore. They don't like that word what do they call it? They're in the lifestyle or ethical, non-monogamous relationship um what is it what are?
Speaker 2all these words yeah, e&m. What is that?
Speaker 1I think people are just put off by people don't like the term swinger like I can hold my hands and go, we are swingers, like it's what it is. We don't need a fancy word to dress it up. Also, instagram can be a bit funny with the word so yeah, that's why people will put lifestyle like we're a lifestyle couple, so for that I get.
Speaker 4But it's quite confusing because, like, when people come on that do stripping and stuff, they'll say they're exotic dancers yeah we all know what it is, so people say exotic like if you actually are an exotic dancer.
Speaker 4That can blur the lines a little bit. So I'm like it's a bit mad, but okay, and that lifestyle as well, like when I hear that I more think about how for I don't know gym or something, I don't know, I don't know if that's just me, um, so yeah, I think it can be a little bit confusing, like do you not subscribe to these different names? You just like whatever?
Speaker 2no, we don't use our names, we just we have to use it on instagram because, like, the word swinger is a bad word. Yeah, you literally can't use it okay, fair enough.
Speaker 4So when did it? When did it start? Because you're married now, yeah so how long have you known each other?
Speaker 1We've been together seven years.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1So we've been together seven years, been married five. We got married in the June and I think like a couple of months after that, we were out on a night out and one of my friends offered us a threesome. So I'm like, okay, I'm down for this, just not with my friend. She's kind of friend zoned, let's, can we talk about this, like later on. So we were like, yeah, yeah, we'll talk about later on. Um, so my friend had told us about a website that you could go on to sort of find other people that were sort of into the same things. Um, we signed up, I think like the next day, that next weekend we're out trying the club and I'd look around for and yeah, it was just for us, just worked so because you said that you do what did you say?
Speaker 4you do events so like would you be one of the people that they can ask.
Speaker 3No, I haven't been to an events, but I have done partaken.
Speaker 4Yes, so that's what I mean.
Speaker 1So you'd be, you'd be like the third yes yeah, yeah, yeah, so she'd be a unicorn okay, okay, because I've heard that before. I had someone on before, so that's like a single person that's in the group. It's always a girl. Yeah, a single female, because it's quite rare to find a single female that wants to play with couples.
Speaker 2Well, good-looking ones.
Speaker 1Yeah, to find nice, good-looking unicorns Trying to recruit you already. Okay.
Speaker 4Oh, so how did it start with?
Speaker 3yourself like did people just like ask you or did you start something?
Speaker 4yeah and I was just like yeah and he's like fuck it, yeah, why not?
Speaker 3yeah, one of my obviously I do content as well someone like offered me the the man and I was like yeah, okay, okay, do you know what I mean? That kind of thing.
Speaker 4Good looking guy, I guess.
Speaker 3Yeah, they just ask you do you want you?
Speaker 4say no, yeah, don't think I've been asked that before You're not no. I don't know if that's a bad thing, Must be a bad thing. Okay, so you'd be one of the people that they ask Be asked. Not yet, not yet, still recruiting, right? So when it comes to like jealousy and things like that, is that a actually wait? I got another question because you said it happened after you got married.
Open Communication in Non-Monogamous Relationships
Speaker 4So who did anyone? Because you said your friend asked you. Yeah, you say like before your friend asked no, like you didn't initiate, you didn't initiate it no so it started the ticking what's your friend? She sort of planted the seed okay, yeah, and you were just, you were right up for that right.
Speaker 2I feel like every man wants to do it but you're not going to ask your wife and like it's not worth it yeah.
Speaker 4I know you can't be. You can't be. I mean, you're married. You can't be completely honest, I guess, with certain things now that we do this, they're like 100% honest.
Speaker 1Yeah, Anything now. There's no sort of taboo boundaries. Anything that we want to talk about, we can now.
Speaker 4Do you only do like one other person? We do.
Speaker 2We're pretty much Audrey's only.
Speaker 1It just fell like that. We didn't ever plan it. We have a lot of friends. We have a really good, strong friendship group.
Speaker 5That want to do it as well.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, they're all yeah, um, because we host events, so we've met a lot of people, um, we've made some really good connections, so when we do go out on a night out or to a club, there's so many people there that we love. It's hard to just choose one person so we all usually yeah. So you can't be like, oh, I'm only gonna go so and so today, or you know. So you just end up in a room altogether and flip out there's no like negative nothing we don't have any negativity.
Speaker 4No, because it probably happens with others, so you've never felt and you've never felt we even like, if someone's like you, feel like someone's outperforming you still no no, really no, because I can't. I'm trying to imagine it and I'm like I'd probably fight everyone, so I don't think I could do it, so yeah no, I don't think I could do it the other way around what do you know?
Speaker 3I don't think I could bring a couple of someone to it, but I'm happy to oh, you're so you're happy to partake.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'm happy to partake, but yeah, you're not. Yeah so your your guy is not off limits, basically, so okay. That's some people's dynamic as well, yeah yeah, oh, one side, yeah, a lot of people go out, yeah, a lot of people One wants to play and the other one doesn't. Yeah, I think that's like most people. I think that's most men. To be fair, Some don't know that it's usually the guys who watch?
Speaker 1It's usually the guys.
Speaker 4Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1So I can't call you a unicorn, right, because you're the unicorn yeah, because we're a married couple, so I wouldn't be a unicorn because I'm not a single.
Speaker 4No, I'm trying to like keep up with the, the words and stuff because I was going to say, because you're saying that there's not a lot of women that want to do it. It's more the guys like initiating it, I feel like it's more women.
Speaker 1I feel, like more women yeah, all right.
Speaker 2Yeah, from my experience, yeah, women are the men don't want to bring it up, but women end up bringing it up and then the guy's like, yeah, I'm down girls are yapping because I'm the thing, because I talk about this right, I talk about cheating and things, right.
Speaker 4And I talk about the differences between, like obviously in your case it's not cheating, but I talk about the differences and why it's different for men and women, right? And I say that if women want to sleep with other people that they don't really like the person. That's just what I'm saying so clearly. That's not the case with yourselves, right?
Speaker 1no, that's not. No, I like him.
Speaker 4You don't care, I mean you're married, so I'd like to think so, all right, fair enough.
Speaker 2So it's been five years going strong yep we're going for 10 yeah, yes okay, we'll go all the way through like everything's too good in our life, like it's perfect. So okay, I mean best both all right, fair enough.
Speaker 4Um, and you said it started after you got married. Then she was carried on since then.
Speaker 3Um, okay, fair enough and there's no jealousy.
Speaker 4Do you think about other people ever? Yeah, you, just once it's done, it's done.
Speaker 1That was a fashion if you're not like in this lifestyle, I feel like anyone who says they've never thought about another person whether they've been in a relationship is a liar.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's true, I think like you can't say it though, like would you bring it up?
Speaker 2yeah, you would and you wouldn't care.
Speaker 1Yeah, we just tell each other everything yeah, we just so if you're like so and so, yeah, she was like great at doing this yeah, well, that's what we'll tell her we were out before and that girl said oh, I had a dream the other night and I was giving you a big chair and we were like what she was out, like telling us to our face she was dreaming about him and yeah, this is, this is foreign to me, yeah I think people that are in the lifestyle are very, very open about the wants, needs, the sex lives and things that they like and don't like.
Speaker 4Yeah, there's not really any boundary, everyone just discusses everything openly yeah I'm literally like, because I don't know if I could hear that I might. Yeah, I think I'd throw someone off a cliff to say that that's crazy. Would you promote the lifestyle?
Speaker 1Yes, I would say that everyone should do it.
Speaker 4Really, if you don't?
Speaker 1like it. You don't do it again.
Speaker 4I know, but like it's like can you really go back? You can't go back, you can't go back, you can't. I don't think it's a don't do it again, it's too late but you don't have to.
Speaker 1You can always go to an event or a social or a club and just have a look around. You don't have to dive head first in into an orgy like that's. You don't have to go that far, just go and see. Do you know what? Do you think this?
Speaker 4is for you, if You're just going and watching me.
Speaker 1You can do it.
Speaker 5Yeah, watch it.
Speaker 2I've got loads of friends who always talk about oh, I won't like extra women and that, and the wives have offered it to them and they're like nah, Change of mind. Why do you think that is? I think they're scared.
Speaker 4They're battling it, yeah. So, when it comes to real, more than one, because I think most men would fantasize about that, most people, most men would fantasize about that I feel like every single man wants it and I feel like, honestly, women are no different and they all want it as well.
Speaker 2But they're just less likely to say it. You think a lot of women want that, though I feel like every woman would want it.
Speaker 4Yeah, like threesomes, 100%. I don't know if I agree with that. Well, fair enough. I think more honest about it.
Navigating Swinging and Camming Boundaries
Speaker 1Yeah, I think more women do than what are honest about it oh yeah, I think that's probably true yeah, yeah, yeah okay, all right, fair enough.
Speaker 4So you're saying that you've got friends that are doing this. Yeah, when it becomes real, I guess, yeah, yeah, is there any chance of like a one-sided would you? Would you because you said you're the partner or you said you don't want to share on it?
Speaker 3no, I wouldn't share. I wouldn't. If I was with someone, I'd be with them.
Speaker 4Or you would be, but I'm not, I'm single, so I can. And what if he came to you and said like what do you mean? If he came to you and said, maybe not, I've not done it in a while no no, no, but I mean like I guy comes to you and says like he wants to, I don't know, maybe like a three, maybe like a, maybe not an orgy, but like a threesome I'll be like no, really, you wouldn't allow him to do it.
Speaker 3No, it should probably do it behind your back. What if you wanted to bring a guy in?
Speaker 4I don't know wait, hold on wait. You was more adamant about it? Yeah, but you used more adamant about the girl I feel like when I'm with someone.
Speaker 3I'm with them yeah but I'm, I'm very like you know, like yeah yeah, with them but I'm very like, you know, like with them, but when I'm, when you said I'm single, I'm like yeah fair enough, fuck it button yeah yeah yeah, is there any?
Speaker 4so, like say, one of you was to say that you don't want the other person to do it anymore then you'd both not do it anymore okay, so the other person wants to do it, but just doesn't want the other person to do it, won't?
Speaker 1work for us. You've both got to be in it or you're not in it, like you can't, yeah, couldn't do that.
Speaker 4So like no rock paper scissors or anything like that, no, it's just a mutual agreement yeah, like if tomorrow I woke up and I said you know what? This lifestyle's not for same thing, that would still be. Yeah, yes, all right, hello. So do you think your lifestyle should be advocated a little bit more, I think, bring more awareness to how healthy it can be being open and honest, or do you think um?
Speaker 2it will be a hindrance. I feel like more people should do it and more people should look at like what it brings to relationship, so like so many people have like a dead, no, like sex life, stale relationship and this can like make it fun again spice it back up.
Speaker 4I just think, I just think most people like will be very, very jealous like.
Speaker 3I've never met a couple that do that, that are unhappy honestly that do I mean?
Speaker 4yeah, I've had. You're the second seem quite happy to be able. I don't know. Yeah, so how would you promote it, how would you advocate it? Just for your.
Speaker 1I think we would advocate it by educating people that swinging is not what is stereotyped. So I think a lot of people just think about it all and they think of older people just going with anyone and that is not wait, what that?
Speaker 4that? What happens in benidorm? The?
Speaker 1tv program benidorm.
Speaker 4Oh no, we all love benidorm but no, I'm about the, not about the show Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1So on there it's kind of portrayed that it's this older couple, not very attractive, and they just sort of pull anyone. That is not what happens. I feel like swings are probably some of the most fussiest and the whole thing like, oh, I bet they're riddled with diseases. I feel like we probably test more than any single person out there. Anyone could go out on any weekend on the pole, take anybody back and have one night stands. Do they get tested? Every 28 days, probably not.
Speaker 4That's a good thing as well, to be fair, Like a lot of people don't do that. So what's the criteria?
Speaker 1Anybody in the world can do it.
Speaker 4Like there isn't. No, I mean, like for yourselves for picking For us.
Speaker 2for picking for us, yeah, do you pick or do you pick? I generally pick Ash picks, but Ash is fussier than me.
Speaker 1I don't have any one specific type. I like people. You've got to kind of make me laugh. I've got a vibe with you. Ash goes more off looks. So you've still got to look nice because of what it does what it goes off looks okay, yeah obviously looks, do come into it, but mine's more on how I get on with somebody.
Speaker 1You could look at 10, but if you're not a nice person then or you don't laugh when you don't have that banter, I wouldn't be interested so what if you, like, you was to pick, and then they don't make you laugh I kind of.
Speaker 2We know what each other likes yeah, we're quite similar.
Speaker 4Are you not gonna pick it if you like it, because you?
Speaker 2no, no, we don't.
Speaker 1We don't do taking one for the team like that's not true, and we always run everything past each other as well, and we have like secret little little phrases that mean let's go, what's? One of those as if we want to like, get out so much, like, should we get a bottle of water and it can be holding one, I'll go, let's go get a bottle of water, and it's just. Let's.
Speaker 4Let's go off and confer with each other do you think anyone like catches on to that?
Speaker 1yeah, I don't care fuck it.
Speaker 4You said you do camming right yeah, yeah, what's that like? What's that like for?
Speaker 3us. I see crazy, crazy things on a daily basis, but it's easy. It's a really easy job. I've seen a man put a rolling pin up his back door.
Speaker 4What on camera yeah?
Speaker 3yeah, I think I had no warning either. I didn't know he was going to do that.
Speaker 1What was that like on a private cam to you?
Speaker 4So sorry when it's on cam to you, right, they're paying, they pay per minute and they can tip as well yeah, so they're paying you to be on camera, right?
Speaker 3yeah, the pay me to be on camera, but you can do group calls, so there's more than one person, which means they pay a bit less. Or you can do it private, so it's so one-to-one, but I don't have to see the other person either.
Speaker 4They can decide I'm trying to just like this world's a bit mad. Yeah, what made him want to do that?
Speaker 3I have, I can't tell you, so he just so like camera came on.
Speaker 4Hi, yeah, yeah, yeah just whips his.
Speaker 3I was like what's going on?
Speaker 4he didn't say nothing.
Speaker 3No, I couldn't hear him and I was just like oh my god it's ten pin time, that's what got it like pretty much all the way up.
Speaker 4I'd say yeah okay, yeah, it was anything else. Is that like number one of?
Speaker 3that was the most probably shocking one I've had, I think close second, it's all to do with like gross stuff, though I don't know if I really want to say it. Do you think they're?
Speaker 4just trying to test to see no some people are into that. Some people.
Speaker 3So I'm trying to say like this is all new to me, like the swinging thing, the bowling pin thing Like that's great, that's-. Sorry, oh, rolling pin. Oh, that's what I thought.
Speaker 4Oh, cause I thought it was like a you know a-.
Speaker 3No, like a wooden oh sorry.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, I think I didn't hear that.
Speaker 4Okay so like the kitchen things yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1I wonder if he put it back.
Speaker 3Oh my I wonder, because when he pulled it out, oh no, oh my God, oh my God.
Speaker 4Did you just roll and trip yeah?
Speaker 3that's disgusting. Bake it ready, you just get a little bit.
Speaker 4Yeah, no, do you imagine. My face. I didn't know that was coming and I was just like that was on me, so do you think that they're doing it for that? Yeah?
Speaker 3I think so, but I think they get off on that.
Speaker 4That shocking.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. So what did you say? Did you have to be like, oh, that's hot.
Speaker 3No, I could not hide that. I was like that is disgusting. I think he liked.
Speaker 4No, but I thought like I would. I would like assume that they would want you to like not encourage them, degrade them, no I mean like, obviously you're saying that they would like degrade it. In my head I'm like wouldn't you want, wouldn't you want some encouragement? Oh, that's so cool.
Speaker 3Like well done. You know what I mean. I don't know who's going to say that, though.
Speaker 4But you're just like you're fucking disgusting yeah, pretty much piece of shit yeah and then they just character that, oh man you know, what? Yeah, what's something else, because that what's the worst thing you guys have seen, probably like not your worst experience, but like the worst thing, the worst thing we've seen was in Granken area yeah, probably.
Speaker 2It seemed like an 80 year old guy getting pegged by his wife around the pool no, no, pegged by his wife around the pool, no, no.
Speaker 1And he had a little cage on as well like a chastity cage and then, after she pegged him, she spun him around so wait, hold on this is like an, like an actual event, for that no, no.
Speaker 4So this is like an adult's own hotel no, no, because I've got to get this clear right this hotel. Is this a normal hotel?
Speaker 5no right, this hotel, is this a normal hotel? No Right, so we need to. We've got to say that one.
Speaker 4Because now it's ten times worse Because I'm not trying to go to a hotel and I go downstairs. That's madness.
Swingers Hotel Conversations
Speaker 1No, no, it is an actual hotel. I've started seeing rolling pins. It's a nudist hotel.
Speaker 3So we were just all sunbathing.
Speaker 1There were loads of people sunbathing and this woman dressed in like full pvc and high boots like get up, and she was like young, younger than him.
Speaker 4No, no, no, she was like maybe 70, 80.
Speaker 2She walked past us first with him.
Speaker 1He ran all fours, she walked in around the pool.
Speaker 4How did you know he was 80?
Speaker 1he'd looked it.
Speaker 4It was saggy, and I need to try and justify it in my head. Yeah, so I'm like he might have looked older than these, because I can't if we did it. We're only by 10 years, okay, fair enough, because, yeah, that's mad and I'm trying to like you're done normally.
Speaker 2That that's it this hotel was full of them. Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1I think they were german, weren't they? Yeah, yeah, they were german. So she was shouting at him in german. She kept whipping him, so like she'd walked him round the pool. So everyone kind of were like what's going on?
Speaker 4like looking does it like, because obviously I probably would be an old out like that, but like, does it get? Does it sometimes get a bit too much as in? Are you like? Maybe he needs some help now or something?
Speaker 1no, I was fascinated do you get? What I'm trying to say. No, nothing else like that happened at that hotel the husband and wife, aren't they? People have safe words, so I mean, he had a ball gag for a while so I'm trying to like, would anyone?
Speaker 4have stepped in yeah, yeah, I guess that's what I'm getting at.
Speaker 2I don't know, I don't think so, I think you wouldn't know because he was moaning as well, so obviously he was enjoying it.
Speaker 4No, but he's got something in his mouth, yeah, she took it out after she'd pegged it.
Speaker 1She took the ball gag off and then let him suck it. Yeah, I was like what is going on? Oh my God, yeah, that's mad. It was mad, it was you know what it is, I came into this show and.
Speaker 5I was like I was pretty confident.
Speaker 1Like I know the world, so was I till I saw this. Like that's it then I watched.
Speaker 4I'm like I don't know the world.
Speaker 1No, I guess honestly and I thought it was just me that was shocked, but every single person that was sunbathing eventually got up one by one and walked over and crowded around them to watch what they were doing, and we were all like they might as well have put like a tip hat or something.
Speaker 4Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3You might as well make something for you.
Speaker 4We're all having a good time. He's busking in there. That's what he's doing. He's what Busking? What's that when you have a hat? When you have a hat, yeah, oh, anyways. Sorry, you know, I don't know the words. I'm sorry as it goes.
Speaker 1we did not end up having any fun in this hotel Because it was weird. We went back to sunbathing and went out every night somewhere else, because it was weird, it was an old crowd. It's a number one hotel, isn't it?
Speaker 2It's like the number one swingers hotel in the whole of Gran Canaria.
Speaker 1The hotel's nice.
Speaker 2Nice, but it's like the youngest people there were probably 60. And then us.
Speaker 4Not what you want, really have you found a hotel that's for your age range. Yeah, yeah, is it a lot better?
Speaker 2Yeah, well, we haven't actually been yet, but all of our friends go, so I think there's about a hundred of us going in October next year.
Speaker 4And you're trying to get through the group of 100. Oh easy, no, he said no, he's like fuck yeah, easy, you know, oh dear, how long are?
Speaker 1you there for five nights, done five nights five nights.
Speaker 4What's that work out that math?
Speaker 2ten, what's that? 20 a night.
Speaker 520 a night. Yeah, 20 a night.
Speaker 2You don't get through 20 a night no, obviously half are going to be men, so oh yeah, that's true yeah there's only 10 of okay, you don't not. Well, a lot of them not going to be obviously for me, because some will be a bit older, because the group's like sort of mixed.
Speaker 4Now I'm saying like do you do the men just? Oh, it's just the women just all right, so you stay on that, okay? What is?
Speaker 2the weirdest request you've had. So after what she's done on, I'll just request just some of them are mad and I won't do them. I draw the line?
Speaker 5yeah, I do. Where's the line?
Speaker 3we need to know if it's like discolourating, like animals like bodily fluids.
Speaker 1So bowling pins out of the question yeah, I'm sorry, like the flights to Dubai stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 4I'll do that. You wouldn't. Okay, we're going to spin the black back to you. I've been asked loads of stuff.
Speaker 3People ask like weird objects to be inserted. I had a monster, can I? Asked to do that?
Speaker 4Yeah, that's big Okay.
Speaker 3Cucumber.
Speaker 4And there's no price.
Speaker 3No, I ain't doing that, jesus 100 it's like, everyone has a price. So maybe, maybe for 100k.
Speaker 4Catch it, bitch. I'm not using buttons or that today, so 100k the line. 100k is the line.
Speaker 3But like, if it's like you know the other, I never. There's not a price for that. You could pay me for that 10 mil.
Speaker 4Probably not now 10 mil, I just can't.
Speaker 3I couldn't able to do it. I don't think I'd physically be able to do it 100 mil All right, I just want you to try.
Speaker 4You take 10 mil, don't you? You try for 10 mil. Don't lie the line's easily moved. I know the line's moved yeah.
Speaker 2And then you say, actually I've only got 95. They'll be like, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3You just keep lowering it and lowering it, like everyone would Most people, I'd say- I can honestly say I'm not sure For a hard UK.
Speaker 1You're not sure. It's not a no, though, is it?
Speaker 4Nah, because Monster can, Because obviously I've only got a few places it can go.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, it would be harder for you, nah, nah for no price?
Speaker 4Honestly, there's no, there is a price. Isn't the right amount? I'll take 100 grand, I'm not no way, no way, I'm not doing it, I promise you, I could pay my house off be done. Nah, you know what it is, because the way I'd weigh up is like what, if nobody?
Speaker 2gets to see, nobody needs to know, nah, nah.
Speaker 3I'm telling you, bro, I couldn't.
Speaker 4I couldn't because I'm like the way I'd justify it is maybe, I don't know, I can't clearly you can't, yeah, yeah, but. I'm like. For me it's like I'm alright how I am so yeah. I'm happy to not do that and just continue what if it were a million? Pound. That's what I mean now. There's no price. There's no price because I'm just like, for me I'd be like, I'm just happy, yeah you're alright now yeah, yeah, I'm not struggling.
Speaker 4I'd still do it, I know. But I'm saying like, okay, fair enough. I don't know. I think it's a bit different though.
Speaker 1For a girl. I think, yeah, I think it's a little bit different.
Speaker 3Definitely different for a girl, but nah.
Speaker 4I can't know it.
Speaker 3Have you not seen them? Big Exit only.
Speaker 1Have you not seen them just?
Speaker 3like doing silly tiktoks, yeah. So I don't know, like if you know, if you've seen them, they're, they're the size of that.
Speaker 1It's a brand.
Speaker 4Yeah, there was one, and it's those red dragon things in it.
Speaker 1Yeah, there's them and it's, is it um north north passara something? Brandy's um but one? I'd hold the back. I held the bottom here and I had it wrapped around my neck, the other side I was using it as a telephone, like going hello. Yeah, but that's what I mean. People use them, yeah, people insert them.
Speaker 5They're made for it.
Speaker 1I think I'm not sure.
Speaker 3I guess people just try to push the limits. I guess, yeah, they do.
Speaker 4It's exit only.
Speaker 3Shock factor. Innit Shop's closed.
Speaker 4Shop.
Speaker 5Shots closed. I can't Nah, couldn't Alright, fair enough.
Speaker 4So, what's the Craziest thing You've done? That you didn't think You'd like, but was actually Really good.
Speaker 2I'd say the orgies yeah. I'd say like to begin with I always said we are never doing that. It's disgusting, it's for tramps. And then one day it just happened, and then we do it Every weekend. Happened, and then we do it every weekend. But you answered that very quickly, I know.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'm again. I'm storing the I'm trying to process. This is that same for you as well yeah, probably.
Speaker 1Um, even when we first started in this lifestyle at first, it was just all about the women, like I don't want to do this, I don't want to do that, I don't end up in orgies, and it took like a year or a year I'm just having to have loads of women all the time so what is it about the orgies that you like?
Speaker 1it's more because we've got so many friends. It always ends up being like a group of people that we know and you don't want to like segregate off, so you kind of end up just going to a room together and you might all have your own little bit of bed and whatever but yeah, it just pretty good that you you've got that camaraderie.
Speaker 4I don't know, I don't know if I can do that. I couldn't. No, I feel like, I look after everybody as well, yeah, yeah, yeah I'm always the one that goes in like shut down I know because I swear so like have you like ever been, you know, in one of those things.
Speaker 2And then you just like feel something or like touch something that you didn't want to touch no, well, a few week ago we were at a party, we were in a club and I was playing with this woman and then I just felt someone grab me, look down and there's just some guy in a suit rather try to grab my mouth fully, fully close see, these are the something to say like.
Speaker 4That's why I'm trying to like.
Speaker 1It's rare.
Speaker 4Slowly break down the kind of things that would stop me doing it and the things that would cause a fight. So it's like that's another one. Yeah, that.
Swinging Etiquette and OnlyFans Definition
Speaker 2I'm really chilled out, I'm not gonna. Well, the woman kicked off she started screaming and shouting and he ran away.
Speaker 4Oh really because he kind of like did he break the rules? Yeah, so what did?
Speaker 2you like, did you send.
Speaker 4I didn't get a chance oh so she, she just noticed, she was like what is he doing?
Speaker 2okay?
Speaker 4okay, it sounds like it's a really good like tight knit family to be fair like.
Speaker 2I swear to her you would always look out for like all the women, yeah, like, even if they're not in like your sort of group you ever seen like a woman like not being treat right, you would step in and make sure like it's all good, but that's like your job is, like a man anyway. So like in that sort of community. So protect the unicorn. Yeah, you check, you make sure the women are good, and then obviously the women are still checking as well. And she's seen, she knows I don't like men, yeah, and she's seen a man try grab me okay she's like whoa, what are you doing?
Speaker 2yeah?
Speaker 4so like, do you have like a little briefing then, or no, I wouldn't. Just how does she? Oh, because they're your friends, right?
Speaker 1yeah, yeah, I don't know okay yeah, but even so, generally before you would go, you would always have that conversation of what your boundaries, what you do and don'ts, what you into you you do. You don't just meet someone and go off and do whatever. Generally I mean, some people might, but we don't you always have.
Speaker 2Yeah, like a briefing and no one touches without permission anyway.
Speaker 1So yeah, everything's always, even if that had been a woman grab me should have been like what are you doing? Yeah, yeah. If a woman would have just come in and just grabbed him and not there'd be no prior communication, it would have been like what are you doing?
Speaker 4get out all right, so like four people go in okay. No, no, six people go in Okay no no Six people go in. And four Because everyone's in the room. So in my head I'm like obviously everyone's like whatever, isn't it?
Speaker 1If you've all gone in that room together and you all know each other, then yeah, oh, then you already know. Okay, I get what you mean.
Speaker 4But it's obviously.
Speaker 1If someone's strangers, then you have to. Yeah, yeah, I'll have with you.
Speaker 2Yeah, we normally tell like it's normally the women who are like the gatekeepers, because it's like it's less aggressive. I stand up and say to people do not come near me. It's like it's different when a man says it. There's an etiquette.
Speaker 1anyway, there is an etiquette, like you would never just come in and touch someone or try and join onto a bed. You would always to speak to that person. You'd kind of you know if someone was at bottom at bed, like a girl was sitting at bottom and kept like looking at me, like are you alright, you know, and she would say, can I join? You wouldn't ever just jump in. I mean, anyone that does would be booted straight off because you just don't do that.
Speaker 5I feel like this is like a not a cult, but like a little 100%, like yeah, everybody knows who I've got on, yeah, yeah yeah, Like there's so many rules and not rules and regulations, but like unwritten codes in it.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's a swinging etiquette.
Speaker 5Bloody hell, fair play. There is Right, they have questions for you.
Speaker 4Yeah, go on. The first question is do you class OnlyFans as porn? Yes, explain why it's a weird question, because how can I not?
Speaker 2Everyone we know does it kind of says it's not, but like no, it's just like content.
Speaker 3I think it depends how far you go.
Speaker 4No, it's porn.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4Even if you're in a bikini. Yeah, yeah, it's porn.
Speaker 3If you're in a bikini but, you're doing it in a sexual way yeah, twitter is full.
Speaker 4Twitter is just born. Twitter is just full born, so there's different levels to it, but yeah, there is different levels, but yeah yeah, I'd say it's yeah. I'd say it's born, yeah, yeah what about you guys?
Speaker 2I definitely think it is, but people we know think it's not.
Speaker 1I didn't used to, but the more that I've learned about people and what people do and don't, I'm like, yeah, it is it depends what.
Speaker 4It depends what you, because what would the person saying that it's not like what? Would there be definition?
Speaker 1of it when you buy a top shelf magazine, what's it known as a what mag yeah, but it's still classed as porn yeah, that's what I mean. So it is. So, if a magazine is, why is OF not that's?
Speaker 4what I'm saying. So I'm trying to like, I'm trying to get into their thought process. I'm like what would your definition of it be? If it's not, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2I think anything where there's a naked guy and naked woman.
Speaker 3Yeah, doing anything to all just two women or anything. Yeah, then that's what it is yeah, obviously yeah, and I think probably.
Speaker 4Yeah, south Corn's probably South Corn. Sorry, we've just been messing about.
Speaker 2So I told you. I heard him say it about eight times.
Speaker 5We're gonna have to put the thing in the front.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah okay but like okay, so like, because even like, if someone was like sitting just on a chair like say, say like in your thing on a cam, yeah, but he was like in a underwear yeah, I would still say that is yeah, I would yeah, okay I go on.
Speaker 3They're fully clothed, though normally I wear more than just underwear I would say, like underwear is not really it's not depends in what context.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think it depends on the bikini, on the street.
Speaker 5Yeah, it depends in what context you're doing it.
Speaker 4I'd say yeah, no, but it's like. It's like you know what? Yeah, maybe it's the context yeah, I think it is because, although people might say instagram in bikini that's porn, I don't think most people class that as porn because of the context.
Speaker 1It's just like yeah, I mean, you're not going to look from next catalogue at people modelling lingerie and be like oh, that's con because that's a different type so it depends in which way. If they're bent over the back of this sofa with butt up in air, that is con.
Speaker 4Yeah, I think if you get in. I was going to say if you're getting some kind of like sexual gratification from it. It's porn, but then I'm hearing about rolling pincer so it's like, yeah, just put it out the window. Everyone has their own blurs, the lies a little bit yeah, okay if you woke up tomorrow with a superpower, what would it be? I like that question. Immortality, that's my one really yeah because then you can do anything no, yeah, but then you're gonna outlive everybody yeah, no, I would not like that, and you're gonna.
Speaker 1There's only so much in the world that you need to know no, because I feel I think the person that's immortal.
Speaker 4You just end up being the emperor of everything. I guess because you know the information you don't get bored of it.
Speaker 3Yeah, I get, I would not. I'd be like I'm sick of this now.
Speaker 2You won't get bored because you can live your life in a million different ways yeah, yeah, like again again you'd learn every language
Speaker 1you'd learn everything that would be forever. You know what it is.
Speaker 4I didn't have much time to think about it but the reason I said the reason I said that is because, like no one could do anything to you, you could do anything if you wanted to.
Speaker 1So you're just thinking, oh, I can't be killed, yeah, not thinking about the long term. This is forever.
Speaker 4But then again I'm thinking about it because like they could just lock you up and then you're just there forever.
Speaker 2They could cement your feet and put you know the one years ago. I know which one you mean.
Speaker 1I can't remember what it's called yeah, where one of them he could only control milk and heroes, were it heroes I? Can't remember it was on Netflix series, wasn't it?
Speaker 4I think I can't remember no, it was because he used to control the dairies.
Speaker 2I swear it's heroes I swear.
Speaker 1One of them. They were killing him and he was buried alive because they didn't know he was dead.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1I can't remember what it's called.
Speaker 2He could live forever, and someone who could control milk worked until he had. That's it.
Speaker 5And then they put cheese in his brain and cabbage him, but they weren't heroes.
Speaker 4I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2I watched the episode I can't remember what it's called, but I know the guy with the afro, the Irish guy I know you're on about and you don't know Misfits.
Speaker 3Misfits. Oh yeah, that's so good, that was great.
Speaker 1I loved Misfits and imagine that controlling dairy being your superpower yeah, yeah, it was Misfits that's crazy.
Speaker 4Misfits was really good to be fair you know what it is, though I think because, like from watching shows like that, I feel like it could be anything. Because I think because that cheese thing was crazy yeah, because no one would want to mess with him, and he just messed him up with cheese. It was crazy.
Speaker 3What yeah?
Speaker 4All right, your part.
Speaker 3A teleport thing?
Speaker 4Oh, that's a good one, yeah, oh, that's like John Platt.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, John Platt.
Speaker 4Oh, mate Damn, I can't change it now.
Speaker 5Because you can teleport anywhere, anywhere literally is it any?
Speaker 4time as well any time.
Speaker 3Yeah, through time, yeah, like through time. So you wouldn't have to, you'd just be there, teleport back to like Roman Orgy.
Speaker 4I like that one, that's a good one, yeah yeah, yeah, that would be nice, I like that one, alright.
Speaker 2I think stop time would be good. Ooh, I like that too.
Speaker 4I'd just rob everyone yeah, I know that's probably the best one. That's the best one. There's a.
Speaker 3TV show about that as well.
Speaker 4I feel like someone had a Norman's.
Speaker 3Watch or something. Oh, it's in the programme.
Speaker 4Yeah, I remember yeah, stop in time. That's cool. Okay, everyone's better than me, so what's yours?
Speaker 1I think I would want to speak to animals, but them like me.
Speaker 4Dr Doolittle? Yeah, would you mean, but them like me, dr.
Speaker 1Doolittle yeah, would you mean, but them like me. That's cute. I would control the world with animals. Yeah, you think there's power in numbers? Look at ants.
Speaker 4Look at wasps, that is true birds.
Speaker 1I have got super strength, though, so yeah, but I control, I control the ocean, I control everything yeah, but I could punch a whale up though.
Speaker 4punch a whale up, what about 100 whales? Yeah, I'll punch them up. I can get one whale swing them All the piranhas?
Speaker 1Yeah, I'll punch them all up. Everything in the ocean, the krakens are coming for you. Yeah, I'll punch them all up. That's crazy. That'll be a TV show now. Yeah, it will.
Speaker 3That'll actually be really good, you know, that's right Now, stop time.
Debunking Swinger Stereotypes
Speaker 4Yeah, you win all right, it's that time. So when you hear the word swinger, what's the first thing you think of?
Speaker 1I think the actual word swinger instantly reminds me of the benidorm tv show, which I really want to take that stigma and that stereotype away. I really want to educate people that that is not how the lifestyle is. Um like our events. They are for, kind of like, predominantly under 40s. They are all young, nice looking people.
Speaker 2It's not what people think yeah, I think that word just makes me think of old people as well, like big fat old couples yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't think that neither would.
Speaker 3I? I wouldn't think that would be the first thing I'd think of. I just think married couple.
Speaker 4That's all I'd think we've seen the TV show like and it's sort of embedded in our brain so when we say so, is it like I have to say a word, or is it just what I think of, what you think of? So for me, I could not watch my girl do anything. I couldn't do it. Honestly, yeah, I think it would just rub me the wrong way.
Speaker 1And would that be, even if she come to you and said I would really like to bring a girl in?
Speaker 4Oh, no, then that's.
Speaker 1I'm not about with men. Yeah, I'm not about with men. It's different. Obviously, there's all different things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4Nah, girls, I wouldn't really mind, I don't think what if she's like?
Speaker 2I think that's A bit of a fantasy or not Acceptable, I guess. Yeah, okay, it's the men. I can't do it.
Speaker 1I feel, like majority of people that we speak, to start this lifestyle with a girl.
Speaker 4That's how it starts. Yeah, that's how you get your foot in the door.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 4And then you start exploring.
Speaker 5I don't know if I could break that barrier though it's like a gateway drug, like yeah.
Speaker 4I think that that happens, like with people with porn as well, like they will, and then they'll die that's what people start like swinging, and then they'll start on OnlyFans, and then now they do paid stuff yeah now they don't swing anymore, but that's the thing. No, because like obviously you lot do it, so do you. Because that's, do you think that you would fall down that kind of?
Speaker 2well, now, because we do the bus, we don't swing like as much now because people have got to be tested, and if not all of our friends are like recently tested, then we can't play with them, okay. So then it sort of kills the swinging, do you think?
Speaker 4swingers are more loyal than non-swingers.
Speaker 5Yeah, I'd probably say yeah, to be honest.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'd say yeah because you know so it's not cheating because you know.
Speaker 5So yeah, probably are to be honest.
Speaker 4Well, from my experience with you guys, it seems like nothing's a secret.
Speaker 2Yeah we don't have to lie or hide out.
Speaker 1Why would you cheat when you could have that discussion openly?
Speaker 4you can, just I want another girl now, let's go find one.
Speaker 2Like if I said to her like I, like I'm here now and I really want to smash this girl, like can I? And she said, yeah, then I could do it.
Speaker 4And it's fine if she said no, it'd at some point, and then vice versa.
Speaker 1We still don't like go off separately and go like everything we kind of do is together.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'd probably say yeah, just because it's probably more open that way.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 4And I think, because you were saying that guys don't really want to bring it up, but women will bring it up. Yeah, now I feel like they're all trapping us.
Speaker 2They bring women in. What do you mean? They bring the women in just to get it started. Oh, okay. Yeah yeah, they're like. I know I want this, but first I'm going to have to bring a few women in.
Speaker 1Oh, so you're going to go in the door.
Speaker 4You know what I?
Speaker 1think the last people that came once said that, as Any girls out there, and they're like how do I get my partner on board with this? Girls bring the girls.
Speaker 4Well, that's what I mean, Like, cause the girls, I don't think I'd mind that too much, but then the barrier for yeah, men, I don't know if I could, I don't know.
Speaker 2People do like girls and they do like start soft swapping, see if that sounds even worse no penetration, oh, so it's just like oral swapping
Speaker 4oh yeah, that's what I was just saying, because the last show yesterday we recorded right and someone asked a question. It was like would you prefer? Like to the guys? They were like would you prefer a girl that gave head to 100 people or slept with 100 people? And at first I said slept with, but I feel like head's worse. I don't know.
Speaker 2I think that's a bit if you look at it more like if you had a girlfriend and she cheated on you and you found out that she'd either slept with someone or give someone a head, which is worse that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4I think the head is worse. Nah, I think I would be more pissed off for the yeah for the head yeah, yeah, that's like an active full-time job for what they're doing. Like you went out your way to make someone out.
Speaker 2Ah, yeah, that's what I'm saying, it's more intimate. That's what I mean.
Speaker 4What do you call it? They call it soft swapping. Yeah, but that's worse.
Speaker 1I'd say that's worse for me we'll do the penetration first and then we'll come back to the oral, which is a bit strange, but I don't know.
Speaker 4Would you ever date someone who was in the adult industry?
Speaker 1adult industry is like a really broad spectrum, but like at all.
Speaker 4I was gonna break it down so porn star. No, since I've been doing this show, I think I'd consider like only fans if it's like just pictures, yeah.
Speaker 2So pictures were like this, I think I'd consider like OnlyFans. If it's like just pictures, yeah. So pictures were like this.
Speaker 4Nah like as in like you're dressed. I'd consider underwear.
Speaker 5Okay. But I think past that yeah, I don't think so yeah underwears.
Speaker 2I don't think I would do it. It's different because we're already together. If I like sing on, I met a girl and she's like I'll do this, I don't think I would like it.
Speaker 1Bear in mind that he runs this bus, that's what I'm trying to?
Speaker 2yeah, I'm trying to understand everything Like oh, what we're doing Friday? It's like, oh well, I'm busy Friday because I've got, like you know, meeting up.
Speaker 4So what about like? Because obviously I'm saying pictures what about like pictures?
Speaker 2yeah, that's different. Yeah, so I suppose it depends on the level. But if it's like full everything and she just does it full time, five days a week, she's out.
Speaker 4Nah, that's a lot doing shoots, and that I'd be like nah, I can't do that. I'd like to do it. Oh yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1That's a lot nah, I couldn't pictures. Maybe not if she's a corn star, but if it was just pictures.
Speaker 3I think if she was doing like underwear you'd be okay with it. Yeah, if it was collabs and bits.
Speaker 1That would be a no, then, so that again if she's doing like collaborations like full girl girl stuff if she was like meeting up with girls.
Speaker 5Meeting up with girls you know what it is.
Speaker 2She's earning bank as well. Yeah, the bank don't. She's looking after you.
Speaker 4Nah, nah.
Speaker 5Because the thing, is, I don't want to be looked after.
Speaker 4I don't think I could be with someone who's going to look after me. I want to look after someone. It's like I couldn't, so I don't think it wouldn't work. So what did you ask?
Speaker 1So what if she did content with other some videos and some photos and bits Do?
Speaker 4you know what the problem is with, though? Is that obviously, yeah, you're doing it with girls, but then the guys are going to see the guys are going to see if she's only in her lingerie.
Speaker 1Yeah, they are.
Speaker 4Yeah, but that's because there's still a mystery to that Like you can see that on Instagram. But when there's no, the mystery is gone now.
Speaker 2Like yeah, that's. It's too much of a thing to be more than 1OF.
Speaker 1I can't understand how many people can?
Speaker 3make a career 1OF out of just lingerie pictures, I think people do, you can see all of that on most of mine is not that extreme, but sometimes it is. I don't know. Most of it isn't.
Speaker 2I feel like most people is like super vanilla and then every so often you've got to add something yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4I'd say that, but like okay, celebrities say, because I'm pretty sure that they're already celebrities, and then they usually start doing it, and then it's like in the millions but I mean like they're just doing pictures, do you mean because they've got a following? They've already got a following they've already.
Speaker 1People are going to sign up and subscribe to them because they're already famous.
Speaker 4Yeah yeah, they want to see anything, yeah if they see a bit of n, don't say you never had any like stuff on your Insta.
Speaker 3I feel like it could work.
Speaker 4No, Nah people.
Speaker 2I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 1I think it could work.
Speaker 3I guess, but you'd have to do implied stuff. Yeah so you'd still have to be, but you wouldn't see everything.
Speaker 4Or suggestive.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I might be fully nude right here yeah, that kind of stuff is mostly what people you have to be already basically like famous to get.
Speaker 1I think that stuff is nicer anyway, yeah, I prefer that I don't know what the suggestive. Yeah, I think it looks nice, I think it's a lot nicer than just spread like them, because I think like because someone was saying to me like obviously they kind of regret going too far yeah because like they're, like they know people in the industry as well that are doing less and making the same yeah.
Speaker 4But then like you're getting by, like four guys, but they're making the same, just like doing yeah, and it's like it's too late now. You can't even go backwards.
Speaker 3I think it's more like how you advertise yourself Like somebody can people onto the OnlyFans if they know how to advertise, I know someone I know, someone who she doesn't doesn't show any of that, like none of this, but it's all suggestive and she makes a fortune. Is that like?
Speaker 1her near us I think that's the girl near us?
Speaker 5yeah, but the problem is because unreal natural as well, like crazy, like you know, like, wow, like oh you, you know what I mean Like wow, like it might be maybe.
Speaker 4I don't know. Oh, like you do that.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 4Okay.
Speaker 2But then when you look like that it's easy Well, not easy, but it's easier Gives you a step up, gives you a step up from people that just have, like an average body type.
Speaker 3People are going to sub just to obsessed with.
Speaker 4You know like they do and like they make you know that's a thing as well the only thing I would say is that once, like, if you do OnlyFans, I feel like it does kind of open the door to like people paying you to do things like.
Speaker 3I think, yeah, it does when you just like no to everything.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's it like the doors close but the doors open a little bit of suggestive stuff, but then people are, I'd say, more open to offering you money yeah, to do other things and you have to be very, very resilient to not do it you know, I mean am I making sense?
Speaker 4yeah because I'm new to this world so I don't usually I don't usually kink shame, but I think this is something that I thought this is ridiculous. So there was a woman who was pregnant at the time and she was having. You know what she was doing.
Speaker 3anyway, she was having relations. That's it, yeah, that's the word.
Speaker 4Thank you for saving me, Okay. And then during that she had a.
Speaker 3I've seen it. Oh my God, she had a miscarriage.
Speaker 4Oh, what so? After all that happened, she then told the person she was having relations with to eat the miscarriage part.
Speaker 3Surely not.
Speaker 4I don't think it's real, but do you think that fetishes can just go a little bit too far? Yeah, that's jail. The whole thing was filmed Jail immediately.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's cannibalism, that is wrong. Yeah, no, lock her away immediately.
Speaker 3That's crazy, isn't it? Yeah, that's cannibalism, that is. Yeah, no, lock her away immediately.
Speaker 4I don't know if it was filmed. I don't know anything about. I literally read it and I said I can't no, I read it as well.
Speaker 1I don't believe that happened. I don't. Someone said that for the shock factor.
Speaker 4I think it's fake news. Why?
Speaker 1would you say?
Speaker 3that for the shock factor.
Speaker 1That's too far even if it's not real, people are doing stuff. So she asked him to eat it, and what did he?
Speaker 4agree no, no, no no, she put it in his mouth and he oh no, that's definitely not real.
Speaker 3I can't believe it.
Speaker 4I can't lie. No, but like the way the world is.
Speaker 1I think people do, but why would you do that?
Speaker 3Because, that's not the same thing. I know the same thing that's not the same thing at all is it.
Speaker 4Sometimes I have to mentally justify things because it's a bit mad, that's like what is it?
Speaker 1by-product, you know, that's not, it's meant to be good.
Speaker 4That's not your child, is it? 10k I think to sell that. I wish I'd have known that Literally. But normally the hospital just takes. But do you think some fetishes or some kinks can just go a little bit too far?
Speaker 3I'm a kink shame.
Speaker 4I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3I'm a kink shame, yeah, but some people just do stuff. We try not to kink shame. I try not to, but when it's something, some things are like well.
Speaker 4But how can you not, no, no, no, that, how can?
Setting Boundaries and Gender Dynamics
Speaker 1you not like that? Obviously, there's certain things in the anything that's illegal is legal for a reason and it should stay illegal anything that's ever to do with animals or, I think, sometimes, places that are inappropriate.
Speaker 4I still agree it should be there do you know what I would say, though? The reason why I say I'm a king chamber is because, because there's tramps because there's tramps doing weird things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's like the thing is, obviously people say that they're not King Chambers. But there's always a line, and because no one doesn't know where the line is, it's mad. So it's like for me everyone might as well just say I am a King Chamber, but I don't mind most stuff.
Speaker 1Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4I couldn't agree with that, because there's always a line that's fair, that's crazy.
Speaker 2I know we saw a snippet of an event once, didn't?
Speaker 1we and I had to leave. They were setting up a toy box.
Speaker 4I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1An actual child's toy box.
Speaker 4They were setting up for an event.
Speaker 1People have like.
Speaker 3There's age play, there's race play. I will not touch anything like that.
Speaker 2What is race play? You can just get another race.
Speaker 1It's like you're calling the. Yeah, I would not touch anything like that. What is race play? You can just get another race Just like you to call, and then yeah.
Speaker 4I would not engage in that. Yeah, I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1That's crazy, and that's crazy, and if that's filmed and then passed around like in out of context, that's your career over.
Speaker 4I don't even think it can be out of context, it's quite contextual pretty much, nah, nah, I'm talking about the toy box thing. Oh yeah, oh no, yeah, that is, that is not. That is not right.
Speaker 1It's implied, that's literally implied, and I understand that they're paying to go to an event where that is in a safe space for them to do it, and a lot of people think that they're doing it there, they're not acting out these things elsewhere.
Speaker 3but I yeah, pretty much. Yeah, you shouldn't entertain it.
Speaker 4The thing is, though I've noticed, though, like on the show, I've had loads of different people on. Everyone has different lines, but the one line that no one ever crosses is that. The child no one ever, no one ever like yo, universally Nah it's, we're not adjusted.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4That's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy. That and animals, have you seen? I even think some people don't mind the animal thing.
Speaker 1We've seen messages before on a website of people saying like oh, do you want to come around and let my DOG have a go?
Speaker 4It's disgusting, no, but there's dildos out there that are like dog shaped and horse shaped.
Speaker 5This is why I'm a kickshamer, because this is nasty madness.
Speaker 3You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4Well, I am clearly as well, that's crazy.
Speaker 3Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4Sorry. Do you think that there's got to be something wrong?
Speaker 3Or the lights say it's on, there's got to be something wrong. Is that what you're going to ask?
Speaker 4No, no, I was going to say something else, but yeah, the lights. We've got to start. What's the word I'm looking for? We need to manage this because it's getting out of hand.
Speaker 5There needs to be a line.
Speaker 4There can't be no line. Dogs is mad, I think there is like a little similar to swinging a little world out there that people do stuff like this.
Speaker 2No, they do, Of course. So the swingers clubs do it in the swingers clubs. So like weird fetishes like they have, like fetish nights, where it's like open on a random Tuesday night and just then go whips and chains and oh yeah that's all fine, that's fine stuff like that absolutely fine wax playing the bondage, like with the candle wax, hot wax on you
Speaker 4that's a bit strange. That's like people like that, people like that. And that's a bit strange.
Speaker 1That's like pain that's in our body, people like that, people like that, and that's fine, but anything that's like burn pain, though was it masculinism or something like?
Speaker 2that.
Speaker 4I don't even like the word daddy, it's like being used yo me and you being you too, brother, that's mad, because that's. I find that weird yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 3You know loads of people who like it.
Speaker 2That's weird. If a woman called me that, I'd be like instantly put off.
Speaker 1We used to say jokingly, don't be like, yeah, that's weird still.
Speaker 4I'd rather have a sir. A sir. That's weird. It's strange that comes from whoever set up that toy box facts did you see that people do like the baby thing, like they act like a baby?
Speaker 1have you seen that? Yeah, I've seen that. That comes under age play as well.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's age play. Age play, that's the same thing. Age play should be eradicated. I'm sorry, that's madness.
Speaker 1Because that's for sexual gratification as well. Yeah, that's madness.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's trying to like yeah, that's great, I'm out of it. Yeah, madness, so I've Me. Yeah, what I do.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4I wouldn't, you wouldn't ever start.
Speaker 3Unless you was paying me a lot of money to fund my life, maybe more than what I was earning. I wouldn't, and even then it'd be hard for me because I'm very, very independent. I'm a very independent person.
Speaker 4So you wouldn't let like sort of man your dreams.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 2You don't have a man that you dreams no catch it bitch.
Speaker 3No, I'm very, I'm very content by myself. I'm not going to go out there looking for someone do you have a cat.
Speaker 1That's a good way. Do I have a?
Speaker 3cat. No, I've got a dog dog, but she doesn't live with me. She can't live with me at the minute, though the dog doesn't even want to live with you she just doesn't live with me. I wouldn't take her away from a big garden lives in. I live in an apartment, so okay, it's not fair I did have a clip.
Speaker 4Maybe it's a little bit off topic, but I did want to get people's opinion on it right, so I sent a clip right. And this this woman was saying because she was talking about like going on a date and that guys should pay and the reason that they should pay is because women take longer to get ready and spend more money on getting ready. I'll give my opinion afterwards. Do you think that? Do you agree with that?
Speaker 2no, whoever says do you want to go out, yeah I should pay.
Speaker 3I agree with that I don't even agree with that, though.
Speaker 2Wow, because the guy's always gonna ask.
Speaker 3When we met and she paid for everything I've paid for yes, so like I've never been like if it was like a long night, a long day. I'm it's like, do you want me to like?
Speaker 4buy a drink or whatever. So what if he said no? What do you mean? Like you're trying to pay and he's saying no.
Speaker 3If he's saying no, then you can pay.
Speaker 4Okay, do you know what I mean? Yeah, like it's nice to offer. Yeah, I always like it's a bit biased because obviously guys are going to ask out for the most part. Most part, yeah, I guess but guys ain't really going to ask out. Sometimes they do or is that why they're not asking out? Because they believe that too?
Speaker 1no, when we first got together, I wouldn't let Ash pay for anything. I'm very independent and even though he probably four times more than me, I'm still like nah, I've got this because he earns more than us. It'd be crazy yeah, now, now everything's equal, but still, it wasn't about that. It was just like I can buy my own drink. I'm not like a pity case and I just had that independence.
Speaker 2She asked me out. She invited me to hers. Does that make you a pity case, though?
Speaker 1like if we'd gone for a meal first. That's fine, but I just didn't want anyone thinking that I'm only on a date, because I think you're gonna pay for it.
Speaker 4Yeah, no I get that, but would you mean get there first, like the bill comes and he just gets his card out like a race?
Speaker 1yeah, he got my glass of wine when he lived here and he'd go get another from bar or something, or yeah I always offer so to you know I think it's nice to offer.
Speaker 3Yeah, because I think the majority of the time they won't. They won, so yeah. And then it's kind of like you don't want to push it on them because they'll be like why are you trying to? Oh yeah, it's going to be a fight, yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, we do this. We have to just do this all night, then, because I'm paying.
Speaker 1So yeah, wherever you want to go with this, we'll stay there, okay what about you?
Speaker 3because you said yeah, I think you said, I said yeah whoever asked the person out, I think well, you would expect them to, but, like I said, I would always offer okay, we've been going for an hour.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's about time. So what we're going to do now? Just want you to tell me how you think the show went and plug in your social media yeah, it went really well.
Speaker 3I think it was chill.
Speaker 4And it pissed you off, then no not at all.
Speaker 3I've gone quite hard to annoy, to be honest, but no, you didn't piss me off at all Fair enough. And yeah, my Instagram is roseapwinter.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, I thought it went good, nice and relaxing. No one said all stressful.
Speaker 4My.
Speaker 2Instagram's the smash plus.
Speaker 1Really yeah just that I feel like it's gone brilliant. Yeah, really nice, lovely, lovely, lovely little chat. I've got two Instagrams, I've got ravenous wife and I've got corruption events ravenous wife that's a good one I made that
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