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The line between strength and weakness blurs when our panel tackles the explosive question: Is it weakness for a woman to stay with a man who cheats, or simply acknowledging reality? This charged discussion ignites a fascinating exploration of how deeply men and women misunderstand each other in modern relationships.

Our hosts and guests unpeel layers of gender dynamics that few dare to address publicly. A standout moment occurs when male panelists argue that showing vulnerability often backfires despite women claiming they want emotionally open partners. "There's a reason why men feel that we can't open up to you. Just think about that," challenges one guest, leaving the room in thoughtful silence before erupting into passionate debate about whether men and women are fundamentally wired to process emotions differently.

The conversation flows naturally into examining Netflix's controversial "Adolescence" series, questioning its portrayal of violence and misogyny in youth. We then venture into profound territory, unanimously agreeing that something must exist beyond physical death while marveling at the consciousness of other species – including dolphins' surprising capacity for depression and complex communication.

Perhaps most revealing is our unanimous support for a gym owner's right to create female-only spaces that exclude transgender women, showing how even politically charged topics can find common ground when framed through personal choice and safety. Throughout, musical artists Aya Blue and Corey Cosmos bring fresh perspectives before treating listeners to samples of their upcoming releases.

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Discussing Cheating and Marriage

Speaker 1

A weak woman holds down a man that cheats , because a woman that loves herself simply ain't just going to fucking do that shit .

Speaker 2

It doesn't make them a weak woman , though , so I'm going to defend them there . It makes them more in reality than most women .

Speaker 3

This new generation . Everyone's just cheating .

Speaker 4

young enough it's , cooked it's true Society we live in now . I don't think anyone's pushing for marriage as much .

Speaker 2

Bare men are deleting themselves at a higher rate than women .

Speaker 1

Sexual energy is so precious , it's so powerful . You're out there sharing with other women and then you're bringing other women's energy back to me you got me fucked up if you think I'm gonna be doing that the energy exchange and a fair , fair point .

Speaker 2

You know , if it's such a sacred thing , why are you doing it with the men that are not worthy ? Then why are the drug dealers getting pussy ?

Speaker 4

I don't get it do you believe in marriage ?

Speaker 2

I do believe in marriage . Do you believe in marriage ? Yeah , you both should be virgin . Then to marriage , it's a sacred thing .

Speaker 1

I agree , I completely agree . Catch it , bitch . No , you haven't got me , because I know you like that .

Speaker 2

I know you like that . Yeah , so adolescence has been trending this week , a new Netflix series talking about kids and , you know , misogyny and all these kind of things we've seen in the news . Well , I've got a panel today and we're going to talk about it . I'll get their opinion on it . What do you think ? What do you think about misogyny ?

Speaker 3

See , I didn't think it was about misogyny . To be honest , the message I got is just upbringings for kids . How just upbringings for kids . How their parents you mimic your parents when you grow up . So just having good influences around you , man , and it shows like even not even a bad upbringing , but bad situations in upbringing can cause from one thing to the other and it just it can go extreme . You know what I'm saying , do ?

Speaker 2

you think we need to bring back beating ?

Speaker 3

I do . To be honest , it's a short and simple idea . I can't lie . Short and simple idea . I try that .

Speaker 2

All right , fair enough . Okay , what do you lot think ? Do you think the message was about misogyny , or so I think it was more about misogyny .

Speaker 4

I didn't really get the bad upbringing vibes only because of the way the dad was in the what's it called the interview with the little boy , because I literally thought he was shocked , as shocked as everyone else .

Speaker 3

I , everyone else , he I don't even think he believed that it was real , so confident . Yeah , literally it's about being neglected , though like he didn't even know he's just working all the time , but in doing that he's neglecting his child . So that's kind of where it's coming , that's right , that makes more sense .

Speaker 4

Yeah , I think that's the .

Speaker 2

That's the kind of like . I do agree with you , though , but I think that's the kind of the life that we're kind of , especially as men . Like you're forced to do enough , like because everything's so expensive , like you have to basically just do long days every day or that to make enough money to kind of provide them . Yeah , if both people are not working , yeah , if both people are working , it's a bit different , but then you're both out of the home , which is probably even worse .

Speaker 4

So , yeah , but I did find it interesting how the little boy I just felt like he had an issue with women , whether that was his maybe ego or self-esteem . He might not have literally known what it was because he's been so young , but I did feel like it was very much based on he wasn't too keen on women . Maybe that was because the girl who he stabbed rejected him .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , I think it was . I think there's a reason why so , because with the misogyny thing , I do , I understand why people are saying that right , but it's obviously it's this , the deeper part . And you know , he's young , he doesn't really understand women , um , he doesn't understand why they don't like him , and you know . So . Obviously he's getting frustrated and that's probably where it came from , like because I think when he stabbed her , if that is because we were so confused , yeah , I was so confused .

Speaker 4

I was like if you're beating her or what you know because I I honestly thought , like the way it was going I honestly thought that someone like edited the video we're trying to do , you know like , because we're in the age of ?

Speaker 2

yeah , we're in the age of ai and it's our fault . Someone else done it and we've kind of so I thought that's what was gonna to go , but anyway yeah , I think he asked her out with that there and I think she said something like horrible to him . Yeah , because I think everyone turned on her and then he tried to be nice to her and then she was horrible to him . You know what happened yeah and he's like hold on hold . That it's not even funny .

Speaker 1

But to gonna say this one , I don't know what I was okay , misogyny or not um , I , when I was watching it , I I wasn't really like picking up like , oh , this is like about misogyny or whatever . But to be honest , I wasn't picking up a lot from it because I wasn't really engaged , because it like didn't make a lot of sense . They're throwing all these stuff like they're hinting at this , they're hinting at that , like you know , like they got non-ce tatted on , sprayed on the side of the van .

Speaker 1

Does it make sense , that bit yeah like they put in other bits about saying like it might be to do with , like the dads , like insinuating certain stuff , all these little things , just for it to literally be nothing , for it to be exactly what it was expecting the series to end when it ended .

Speaker 2

The thing is the with the nonce thing . I didn't actually like think too much into it . I just thought it was just a kid being a dickhead . I didn't think that there was no message behind it .

Speaker 1

I thought it added on to what he had said before , when he was like oh , and when the dad comes in , it can use like a parent it can affect and they might've done something , Cause he was like a feeling it might be like this yeah , so I've got a feeling yeah , they then spray nonsense on the side of his van . And yeah , I thought that came from .

Speaker 4

I thought that came from what I don't know what , if this was before or after . But when the mum said about we can't go back to liverpool , I thought maybe he might have done something and they've had to move like they can't because didn't the daughter say like it's going to be bad if we go back or everywhere , or something .

Speaker 2

That's what I thought the nonce , because the nonce thing has nothing to do with the little boy yeah , because then he even said we can't go , we

Breaking Down Netflix's "Adolescence" Series

Speaker 2

can't go back to Liverpool , and you know that , or something like that , something like that .

Speaker 4

That's why I forgot about that yeah .

Speaker 1

I think they were just like two is going to come , unless they do a series two , and series two is the plot twist . You feel me then ?

Speaker 2

other than that , I don't get it , and there's no point in making series , because because if that is the case , like , let's say in , let's say they make a series two right and um , you know , it turns out that you did do something to the sun then obviously that makes more sense you know , because people act .

Speaker 3

You know , I mean know what .

Speaker 4

I mean , yeah , it would make more sense , hurt people , hurt people .

Speaker 2

So then obviously that's also built up , and then violence . So it might not be the hatred of women , might just be because obviously that's happened . So now he's acting out .

Speaker 1

I do believe in Stephen Graham , though , because you know , every single thing he's ever acted in or written acted in or written I have loved . I've , literally . I'm such a big fan this is the only thing that he's been in , and I couldn't knock his acting in it either , but just like the fact that he wrote it , I was like so I do . He's never let me down before , so I feel like season two might be the plot twist and we are all these little things . It might be something I hope . I hope it is what I'm saying , so yeah definitely .

Speaker 2

well , you know what it is when , when you try and like push the ball out and try things that are different , you know it's always a gamble , of course . Yeah , so this one take thing , I think this one take thing will catch on .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's not the first thing he did one take . I swear he did something . It was , I can't remember what it is . Yeah , it was like a shorter , yeah , shorter thing , and then he did .

Speaker 2

He's talented to do it he's so talented , and the other actors as well , everything . Yeah , they would have been told like I think in the interview room someone mentioned something I think it was you and then someone said that yeah , am I boring you and obviously I think they would have been like told . Obviously you kind of like got to adapt to the thing that's going on . You know what I mean , because it's going on right there and then you know what I mean .

Speaker 4

Yeah , because the little boy was like . I saw him on this morning and he was like oh yeah , I smiled at that point because he felt like he came out of character . I was like I smiled because I didn't know what to say and he was like no , but for the fact it was one take . I think the kids it was impressive , big respect to them all .

Speaker 1

I just personally don't really wasn't engaged with the . Yeah .

Speaker 4

Too many storylines yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it was a lot of things thrown up and like yeah , I think like if it all comes together , in the end it's all right , it makes sense , but when that is literally . Too many questions yeah . Well , maybe that's why it .

Speaker 3

Do you know what I was thinking ?

Speaker 1

He's a very smart man , and I feel like he might have done this all intentionally , knowing that everyone's going to go well , what ? That's the end , and even that itself when something is controversial , it's a success anyway . Do you know what I'm saying ? If you've got people talking like that , then it's a success .

Speaker 2

Exactly .

Speaker 3

She makes a point .

Speaker 2

I like that . Now let's introduce the cheeky person who's saying what I was talking about First time on the show name age . What you do for work and relationship status .

Speaker 4

My name is Aya Blue . My age is whatever you think it is , cause I'm a young babes , I'm a singer and I'm single .

Speaker 2

Okay .

Speaker 4

She belongs to the street , okay , so singer good singer .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we're going to get some vocals at the street . That's it . It is Okay . So singer , good singer .

Speaker 4

Yeah , we're going to get some vocals at the end . At the end , I'll give you something Only if you give me something first Me . I don't sing .

Speaker 3

So there's always a first time . Let's go with it then .

Speaker 2

Exactly , we'll do a draw , okay .

Speaker 3

Next first time on the show again . Sir Cosmos , artists and Seville . Okay , he belongs to the streets . For the sake of For the sake of equality .

Speaker 2

Because we strive for equality On this show .

Speaker 1

He belongs to the streets .

Speaker 2

You try . Well , you might be thinking you know , there's a person you know , bk looks different , it's a bit lighter , he's got long hair . Well , yeah , we've got Inks here With me Co-hosting the show today . How are you Inks ?

Speaker 1

I'm great , thank you .

Speaker 2

You know the slogans right ? Yeah , because you've been here so many times , I think I do . So we try , we could try . So if it's your first time on the show , make sure you press that subscribe button . Turn it on subscribe to Subscribe . To Turn it on subscribe subscribers . Can I get an amen from the guests please ?

Speaker 4

amen . Now we need some more energy .

Speaker 2

Can I get an amen from the guests , please ?

Speaker 4

amen you know what ?

Speaker 2

we need energy , energy alright so listen what's now gospel you know you got the gospel obviously , what we've been doing recently is getting the guests to write down some anonymous questions and then we talk about them . We've had some crazy ones , to be fair . So to be fair today over to yuki .

Speaker 5

We're saying guys , I'm good , yeah , these are pretty tame questions , but they're pretty thought-provoking . So I'll start with the the first one um , do you believe in life after death ?

Speaker 4

I do believe in life after death . I don't know what happens , but I just know there's something , something going on somewhere else .

Speaker 2

Are you religious ?

Speaker 4

I definitely believe in God and I'm spiritual , but there's got to be something . This can't be it , guys . We don't just die you know what I mean ?

Speaker 2

There's just nothing . They say it had an essence , is it ? No , exactly , there's got to be something .

Speaker 1

Exactly .

Speaker 4

There's got to be something after this . Something after this , I don't know what it is there's so many theories .

Speaker 2

So he found out there was nothing like literally just dead they can't be , they can't be , just nothing do you think ?

Speaker 2

do you think like , let's see sorry , calm things down , I'm calm with that . Ask another question do you think , right , right , and this is me just throwing something out there do you think that they've made religion right to like because imagine , because even you're saying like there has to be something , you know what I mean . Like imagine there was nothing and you just die and that's it . Do you think like that's what I'm saying ? Do you think they've done that ? Because people just go mad and just like yo , what's the point ?

Speaker 1

like yo , I'm gonna start adolescent the life out , maybe one day , because there's nothing you want me to say like there's literally nothing , but you're not thinking like the great , like you look at time as it is , yeah , like millions , like when billions of years the universe existed before and everything , and you think like a human life is like absolute max . If you hit 100 , yeah , then you're doing something right . But let's say like 80 , yeah , 80 years in the grand scheme is nothing . If we're here to only exist for like a blink , then I wouldn't understand what's the point of falling in love , what's the point in learning how to do this .

Speaker 1

What's the point in all if it just but like it's a literal fact that energy can't just disappear and die . It always transforms , and we are energy . We have our own energy fields .

Speaker 4

You know , what I'm saying . So I think definitely it's gotta be so definitely do you think it'll reincarnate you , though , like see , I don't know about that . Well , the thing is , you hear stories about people being like oh , like my , my baby reminds me of my dad , like things like that . I don't know about that , I just don't .

Speaker 3

I don't know , I don't know . Do you know what I'm thinking ? Do you think animals have consciousness the way humans have ? Like they're self aware , like us ? I think they're like NPCs . I hear that , you know , I hear that to be fair what's so different with humans than to animals ?

Speaker 5

it's gotta be a soul yeah , exactly to add to that , that's how dolphins do , because it's illegal , it's illegal to communicate with dolphins yeah , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 4

So what the fuck do they know ?

Speaker 3

because dolphins it's illegal to communicate with dolphins you know , someone had a sexual relationship with a with a dolphin and um , yeah , communicating with each other and everything .

Speaker 1

If a woman gives birth in the ocean and there's dolphins around . They will literally like help with the label , like circle you . If there's a shark , they'll protect ocean and there's dolphins around they will literally like help with the labour , like circle you .

Speaker 5

If there's a shark , they'll protect you Really so dolphins have the intelligence similar to humans and it's the only known animal at the moment that will commit suicide because of depression .

Speaker 1

And have sex and have sex for pleasure and have sex the only other thing to have sex with them .

Speaker 2

I heard dogs don't have sex with birds as well ?

Speaker 1

No , no , I've never seen a female dog in a time period when they haven't sex , you know what I did see , which is actually mad to me .

Speaker 2

I seen a video someone dropped their phone in the seat and a dolphin grabbed it and brought it back up . Mad that's crazy .

Speaker 1

I saw a video the other day of a girl literally teaching a dolphin how to talk , like she literally was teaching it hey , mama , and it was saying it back and it almost you know how like how parrots imitate a voice and it sounds like it sounded like that yeah , they're very intelligent .

Speaker 4

I heard that dolphins are also gang affiliated gang no gang , no gang what can I use ?

Speaker 2

right ball in the pack .

Speaker 4

Basically no gang grape , oh no wait , no wait .

Speaker 1

I've heard that as well .

Speaker 5

I've heard that , yeah no , no , you're right there .

Speaker 1

I heard that because that fits with the only other you know , mammal to have like sex for pleasure then also comes with .

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah , well , that's mad , but great's prevalent in wild anyway .

Speaker 4

Yeah , but they consciously do it , that's why we're talking about the consciousness .

Speaker 5

They consciously do it .

Speaker 3

Oh , okay , we have a soul and we have never chatted to a dolphin before , yet , yet .

Speaker 1

I will . When that girl Wait till I get my hands on a dolphin date I want to find out what they know . But when that girl was communicating with a dolphin .

Speaker 4

Did his communicating with Dolph ? Did his voice sound like ?

Speaker 1

No , that's what I'm saying . It sounded I'll try and find it to show you after but it sounded like you know how a parrot , when it imitates it , sounds like a human's voice coming back at you . That's not like it's normal noise , like it almost sounded like coming from like a different part of its mouth , like it sounded completely different if they got into an accident .

Speaker 5

Tans were now physically disabled .

Speaker 1

Tansfee was driving to cheat on me , wow you lot are getting crazy with it . Accusations , of course I would , of course my conscience and the way that I love would never allow me to be of words . You know what I'm saying . When you fall in love with someone , even if it was like a physically altering thing , you fall . When you do fall in love with someone , you fall in love with all of them and yeah yeah , who I am .

Speaker 2

I'd never , never be able to I hear you , yeah , I'm gonna have to be the bad guy then so go on like obviously , just let's just think about it . Yeah , let's say , you haven't had kids or nothing , right ?

Speaker 4

there we go . You know what I mean , like you know , let's calm it down .

Speaker 2

You've had no kids right , and it's different if you've like had a full family and even then , like you know , you don't want to be lonely . Still like depends on . Are they like potato , like can't talk , or is it just like they're disabled ?

Speaker 1

yeah , what level hold ?

Speaker 2

on like potato is a bit like for this argument , for this argument .

Speaker 5

Do you remember ? Do you remember Superman ? No , I've never watched it so the old school Superman where he had , he can only move his head and that's it , so no responsibility is that like Stephen Hawking ?

Speaker 4

yeah , similar so you can't even talk to him , basically . No , you can talk to him , okay so he can speak , but yeah , that's cool .

Speaker 5

I'd stay with him . I would have to stay because my conscience just could not , I couldn't do that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , and I hear that You're talking A man about . Like potato can't do nothing , I'm just going to have side bitches .

Speaker 4

It's not real . You lot have that anyway .

Speaker 2

She said it you lot .

Speaker 4

have that anyway , it's all made up .

Speaker 1

I feel like a man is definitely way more likely to leave a woman if they get in an accident .

Speaker 3

I don't know I don't agree , still I think so . Women are just crafting it all .

Speaker 1

Because , women are nurturing and have that . I'm sorry because I can't have it you literally just confirmed that you'd have side bitches anyway , do you know what I'm saying ? But that's true , that's true .

Speaker 2

Like most men , will have side bitches . That's just true . I just report the news and I don't make it . You know what I mean .

Speaker 4

It is what it is , but I don't hate the players , yeah , but could you use the saying here about side bitches ?

Speaker 2

This guy can no longer provide , for you can no longer protect you .

Speaker 3

These are the main things that you look for yeah , so you're telling me you wouldn't have sex otherwise .

Speaker 4

Ever again Elsewhere .

Speaker 3

No , I don't believe that , to be honest .

Speaker 2

Gotcha bitch , I couldn't Wait . Run , run , run run .

Speaker 4

Why are you lying , bro ? Yeah , it's for me . I couldn't sorry . Yeah , but again . It's a conscious thing and it's a model Till you die .

Speaker 5

Nah , do you know what you ? And obviously also pleasuring themselves my soul wouldn't .

Speaker 1

I would not be able . If I've got a guy and he's in whatever vegetative state or whatever , there's no way that I could go out there and do something with another guy and even be mentally present with them . It wouldn't be something that I would enjoy because the guilt and the conscience would ignore but God would do that when he's not even a vegetable so what's the point ?

Speaker 4

no you up , don't do that because no don't do that .

Speaker 2

I'll defend the ladies in one aspect right , like they're less likely to . But the problem is is that what you have to be and do so that they don't cheat is a lot harder for the others even though , to be fair , men don't cheat anyway , so probably nothing you can do . But with women you have to be , you have to be the best guy . That's how I say you have to be the best guy . If they think you're the best guy , they won't cheat on you . If they don't , they'll cheat on you anyway answer the question .

Speaker 4

Sorry , what's the question ? Would you leave your ?

Speaker 2

I would make sure , no , I wouldn't , leave her , he'd leave her with money . He'd leave her with a little bit of money , so his conscience was clear . No , no , no , no . She'd be looking like if it's , and a carer probably nah , if she , like , if she was down for me and you know , and she looked after me when , you know , when we was together and everything , then she'd be nice , like but you still have side bitches .

Speaker 1

Who me ? If she wasn't registered to , I'm sorry , I'm being fair Well yeah , I just no .

Speaker 2

Obviously I think men are going to do that anyway , but I'm just saying that if she was good to me , I would make sure that she's good .

Speaker 4

When you say men , but at the end of the day if .

Speaker 2

I ever got kids . I'm going to want kids , isn't it ? I'm not ?

Speaker 1

going to . Just . This is a question for you , like when you say men , are you saying me or are you just talking on ? Because , like , I can understand if I say like , oh , women do this , but I wouldn't categorize myself in what the way that majority women behave . Do you categorize yourself in the way that the majority of men behave ?

Speaker 2

do I categorize myself ?

Speaker 1

yeah . So , like you know , you get into a relationship but you're definitely gonna cheat , you're definitely gonna have side bitches I'm gonna be honest , right , I'm gonna be , I'm gonna be a bit honest . I'm gonna be completely honest , right ? Yeah ?

Speaker 2

this is a cast coach podcast , so I don't know .

Speaker 1

Sorry , yeah yeah , I thought you'd say was that your answer ? No no I thought you'd answer it that way sorry what was the question again ?

Speaker 2

tell us again .

Speaker 1

He's the cast coach podcast you when you , when you talk about these statements as men , are you saying you included , like would . When you get into relationship , do you cheat ? Do you have side bitches ?

Speaker 2

I don't cheat because they'll know anyway that you'd be a real it's not cheating if they know , is it ?

Speaker 4

oh , here we go .

Speaker 2

I might have to answer that one All right . Next question Is it wearing on already ? That's true game , you know . No , if they know if they don't know .

Speaker 4

If they know or if you don't know .

Speaker 3

What you know doesn't hurt you .

Speaker 4

If they know it is cheating , no it's not what do you mean ? If they know before you do . Said yeah , he literally said that , and respectfully .

Speaker 1

I think , yeah , that here we go . Although like you'd probably say like no , a strong woman is A woman is going to hold down a man that cheats .

Speaker 4

Oh , blah , blah , blah .

Speaker 1

I'm going to say , a weak woman holds down a man that cheats , because a woman that loves herself simply ain't just going to fucking do that it yeah , so let me tell you let's go back into the real world .

Speaker 3

Now let's go back into the real world , so in the real world , right in the real world , men and women are different .

Speaker 2

All right , we all know this . Obviously . Now , I'm not necessarily justifying this and saying it's a good or bad thing , but what I would say is that I believe that it should be up to the man , right . So if the man decides , this is what I think . If the man decides , you know what ? This is my woman , um , I'm gonna stay with her . I don't really want anything else , and I think every man eventually gets to that point . Yeah well , if it's a case where you're just not doing it because you're scared about your woman and things like that , then I don't agree with that . It should be a decision that you make . If we are meant to be the leaders of the relationship , now , some people don't want to . Women want to be the leaders . That's fine . Be the lady if you want .

Speaker 1

Well if the man's a leader .

Speaker 2

He should decide . That's it , and I think you should be honest I agree with that . There are women that are willing to that are happy with that yeah , they exist , it's absolutely it doesn't make them a weak woman , though , so I'm going to defend them there I see I don't make them a weak woman . I think it does it makes them more in reality than most women yeah , but more in reality .

Speaker 1

What for the world ? Like ?

Speaker 4

I live for the spirit and my soul , so for me you're literally selling yourself short for what , like you , definitely don't need to sell yourself short , but that again that's a personal thing .

Speaker 2

Some women that they're happy with that so with the women in the bible , but that's because the level with the women in the bible weak what polygamy was in the bible , king Solomon , so what about Muslims as well ?

Speaker 3

how they have multiple wives . Would you consider that cheating ?

Speaker 1

yeah , for me , my personal opinion , if you're willing to hold down a man this week , I think that you , I will see you . I can't help but see you as a weaker woman because that's not within my reality . So the way that I'm going to view you , if you're holding that , I think that you probably have low self-esteem , you probably don't like yourself somewhere , you've probably got trauma that's unhealed because you're happy for that , because for me , that can never fulfill me . I can never be happy I couldn't be happy .

Speaker 1

Some women are , and that's cool it's a good opinion , but for me and I wouldn't be happy with that , so I just want to do it I just want to say it's a way .

Speaker 2

I just think I don't think it's a way , because for me , I think , do you think men are built to just have one way ?

Speaker 1

no , no , no , no , no , do you think we're built to just have our urges and what's what I believe , because it's all personal . It's right , two different things . Like you know , a man definitely isn't , uh , constructed and built to want to only fuck one woman , you know , as soon as they , as soon as they're sexually active . But if a man chooses to live by certain morals and certain characteristics and certain levels of respect and engage in um a relationship , but like you said , that's the man's choice , same as it's a woman's choice I agree with .

Speaker 2

So why did it have to be weak though ?

Speaker 1

no , I'm saying I view , I will automatically view you as weak , because my brain , I'm thinking my , I could never be happy with that . I can't see how you could stay with someone that's out here . You know , giving

Introducing the Panel Guests

Speaker 1

their energy and your sexual energy is so precious , it's so powerful , so I was out there sharing it with other women , and then you're bringing other women's energy back to me back to me . You got me fucked up if you think I'm gonna be doing that .

Speaker 2

Like no , no , but men don't take on energy .

Speaker 4

It's still an energy change . It's still an energy change .

Speaker 3

On the women's side , you take it A man does , you will carry that energy .

Speaker 1

Oh , you know what ? Tell you what ? And aside from that one sec , cool , let me push it in . And aside from that , because I'm going to say it first , like I ain't doing no off-rowing pH balance , because you can't , because you can't keep it in one , like no , stop , listen , listen to yourself . Nah nah , nah come on , man , I ain't I'm going to cut in there because sorry .

Speaker 2

I need to respond . Keep hold that nah nah , I need to .

Speaker 5

I need to say my , my God , this one thing . Ph balance is off-key . Men as well Can't lie . If a woman's balance is off-key for me and I go in raw , I've got eczema . I hear it .

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying ? Apparently , apparently , like BV , which is what throws off your pH balance , has just been announced . It's actually now recognised as an STI , rather than just something of a woman's pH balance being thrown off . It's actually a class now as a STI .

Speaker 5

But that's because of because of a parasite , is it ? Yeah , yeah , it's because um . Bv is in conjunction with trichomyosis , which is um trichomyosis vaginosis , which is only for . So men can be carriers , but over time it dies in them , sometimes depending on the person . But um that's in conjunction with bv . So if you get bv , they'll then um treat you for chicken meiosis as well .

Speaker 1

No way right .

Speaker 2

Look at dr , dr cute I know I've heard a few ladies say this thing yeah , oh yeah , the energy exchange , fair point , fair point , fair point . You know if it's such a sacred thing , right ? Oh shit , yeah , exactly .

Speaker 1

I know exactly what you're going to say . If it's such a sacred thing , why are you just doing it with anyone ?

Speaker 2

then why are you doing it with the men that are not worthy then ? Since it's a sacred thing why are the ? Drug dealers getting pussy . I don't get it .

Speaker 4

I agree Because some women think that these people so I know a lot of people who will be with people and stay with them , even though they're cheating on them because they have money I just don't think I need to stay with a man for that Fair enough Personally . Do you believe in marriage ? I do believe in marriage . Do you believe in marriage ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , right . So then you believe in marriage ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , right so then your balls should be virgin . Then to marriage . It's a sacred thing , Energy exchange . I'm just saying no .

Speaker 3

I'm just saying I'm just saying no , no hold on .

Speaker 4

I'm borrowing what you're saying .

Speaker 2

You said it's a sacred thing .

Speaker 4

It's an energy exchange . It is a sacred thing , yeah .

Speaker 2

so then , wait for the man who's going to marry you .

Speaker 3

You get a few tequilas , it's not sacred , no more .

Speaker 1

I agree , I completely agree and catch it , bitch . No , you haven't got me , because what , what do you want me to come straight back at you , the fuck , okay .

Speaker 2

I agree .

Speaker 1

You know what you're the co-host today I agree and I think which is why I speak the way I do on podcasts because I feel like young women should be told this more and should be taught this more . Had I understood what sexual energy is and how precious it is , and the reality of what we do and what it is when you give yourself to someone , I would have solely wanted to save myself . Are you crazy ? I wouldn't want to get with my husband and then have other people to compare it to . That's when your divorce rate is higher .

Speaker 3

That's true , that's factual .

Speaker 1

If I had the knowledge that I had when I was younger , I absolutely would have lived my life differently . But all you can do when you retrieve this knowledge as a woman is then change your ways from them and that's that , that's what I did when I become enlightened about certain things .

Speaker 1

That's when you you change the way you act , you change your level of access , you change who who you fuck with or you don't fuck with anyone and that and's it , and you respect yourself in a different way . And it's sad that a lot of women have to go through that to get to that realization and there's some women that never gets that realization . And I think that's really sad personally , because when you do learn how sacred our bodies are , you don't you grieve people that you have given yourself to on a different level . It's real .

Speaker 2

I don't necessarily disagree with you . I actually agree with everything that you just said . I'm just not going to be the sucker , to be the one that's waiting after you've already gave it to everyone , in fact . That's all I'm saying that's all I'm saying it's took you too long to figure it out , but I don't want to be the sucker that's waiting . As a man , I can .

Speaker 5

Not all women are like that .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I was about to say not all women are like going out on the weekend and fucking someone . Some women are , Do you ?

Speaker 3

know one thing before I forget as well . Younger when you're younger as well . It's getting this new generation . Everyone's just cheating younger . Now it's cooked , it's true .

Speaker 1

So back in the day it'd be 15 , 16 .

Speaker 3

Now it's 10 , 11 , 12 .

Speaker 1

It's mad Bruce .

Speaker 3

Madden . He's just getting younger now , so he's cookster Corrupt .

Speaker 2

Nothing for me , man . I agree with you . Yeah , but anyway , move on , I agree with you .

Speaker 4

Go on , go on , go on , go on , go on .

Speaker 2

I mean I mean , I mean , I mean , Go on , you just light the fire and he just smashes me , All right cool , cool , cool .

Speaker 1

So it my minuscule Of course .

Speaker 2

So I'm just talking in general , and most Tyrone had it after the globe .

Speaker 1

I do know , I do get it , I know , you know what I'm saying .

Speaker 2

So if you come to me and you're a virgin , I will take your word , but like you know what you actually think it's sacred . You know what I ain't sleeping with no .

Speaker 4

You know what we're going to yeah , but it's the same for you lockdown , it's not , it's the same for you . It's actually science . We take on a lot of men .

Speaker 1

You just said that it's deeper for a woman . And if you are so we 100% take on everything from the man you just said that yeah .

Speaker 2

Now , it's proven scientifically , though , that you do .

Speaker 1

That's what I'm saying , yeah , so like the more penises you have .

Speaker 2

Yeah , even with marriage . The higher the body count , the less likely you are to have a long marriage . When you're a virgin , virgins last longer .

Speaker 1

Because you've got nothing to compare it to , so you're , you're never going to , and that's how it should be . Yeah , I agree , that is how it should be . That's how it should be and as you said before , we like to experiment in sexual freedom . It's normal to have her phases and it's not . It's detrimental to young women .

Speaker 5

Okay , let me answer the next question nicely , right ? So do you think in today's society we are more desensitized or less resilient ?

Speaker 1

Desensitized in every single compartment , every segment . There is like everything we watch . Like we open our phone and it's normal for just loads of um , you know of models and like half naked people on the ground . That's like soft corn . Do you know what I'm saying ? Like literally on our timeline , and these are young , young girls that are then looking at them and comparing young boys like and then even with like violence and everything that we watch , satanic stuff , everything just constantly is desensitising us and I think that's why we have a lot of the issues that we do violence , all of it , yeah everything from real young kids .

Speaker 3

I'm going to say something does that ?

Speaker 5

make you less resilient or more resilient depends on the person .

Speaker 1

Depends on the person . I think yeah it depends .

Speaker 4

I think it depends on your person . I think , yeah , it depends .

Speaker 1

I think it depends on your level of consciousness . You know I'm saying , um , I feel like , in a way , subconsciously , can desensitize and make you less resilient , make you weak , um , make you more fearful , all this type of stuff . But on the flip side , if it's someone that's a lot more conscious and self-aware and they're watching this stuff , and they , they , you know , if I watch something , I can say , oh , okay , I can see what they're trying to do with this show . They're trying to instill this like view , or they're trying to do this , or they're trying to run with this undertone . So I feel like that . Can that , for me , make me more like fuck you to it ? You know what I'm saying I clocked it , that's .

Speaker 2

Um , that's see that mate , that that mind frame there has kind of ruined my life , to be fair . Literally I can't watch a show and just watch a show now .

Speaker 3

When .

Speaker 2

I'm watching a show now . I can just see the propaganda .

Speaker 1

I can see what they're trying to do .

Speaker 2

That's why I was talking about the adolescents . I can see what they're trying to do . It's more just trying to make everyone against each other . Men are bad , men are dangerous , especially the Red Pill , the red pill thing , yeah , like all of that thing .

Speaker 3

Like I think that's yeah , it's just like I can't watch a show in peace now because I can see everything and it's like oh my gosh , it's just madness , yeah

Speaker 2

and some people watch

Life After Death and Human Consciousness

Speaker 2

that and don't even pick it up , and I'm just like , and that's why , that's why I'm saying it depends on your , your level of consciousness , and stuff and I would say the this is don't say this often on the show , yeah , but when you know the OF the naked pictures , the soft core , I blame the men . I'm sorry I've never said I do blame the men and I'll tell you why . Right Cause number one I believe we should be the leaders right . And the more you're giving attention , validation , comments and all that people are going to , especially women , they're going to want to do that . They love attention . It is what it is . They always have , they always will be , will . So the more attention you're giving to it , the more you're feeding it Women follow .

Speaker 3

When .

Speaker 2

I see if I see any twerking naked .

Speaker 4

I'm just not interested in that . I don't want to see it on my feed , that type of stuff . As I was saying the other day , like I'm tired of being desired for the physical stuff , it's gross , isn't it ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , and you can feel the lust on a person . Yeah , it's like ugh Now .

Speaker 4

I'm older , I'm like I don't want to just be desired for that . I don't want you to just want to sleep with me , like where's the rest of the first conversation you have ? They're dropping sexual in you and yeah , but I also think that is because , as you were saying , most , yeah , most women love that and play into it , yeah , whereas , and then you get the minority and it's like , well , I've got no hope because that's what ? Yeah , out of 10 people , you've jumped in 10 people's dms .

Speaker 1

I'm probably the only one that said listen , I'm never gonna respond to a dm because my , my husband , is not in dm . You might call me delusional for that , but I will never respond to dms because I think my husband's not a dm .

Speaker 3

The book you're in the traditional way .

Speaker 1

You gotta find him outside I have to catch up , I have to meet you in person . I have to feel that connection , demisexual , that real , like I feel your soul and your spirit .

Speaker 3

What's that ? Demisexual ?

Speaker 4

Yeah , it's about like a sexual connection .

Speaker 1

Nah , they have to look at it . It's not Okay . Take this one second .

Speaker 4

One second , no it's not a sexual no . Yeah , of course , but in order to sleep with someone . What is it ?

Speaker 5

No , no . So demisexual is more about connection so demisexual is nothing to do with sex at all .

Speaker 3

So , they open themselves to you and allow you to have sex , is it ?

Speaker 5

pansexual no , no , no , okay , there's too much .

Speaker 3

Just look at her , just look at her . There's too much . Go on , go on .

Speaker 5

So they open themselves to you because of you , yeah that's it .

Speaker 3

Okay , I get you .

Speaker 5

That's it , not because of how good you are in bed or this or that because of you and the connection that I have to you and that then allows you to have sex with them . It doesn't mean that they like sex . It doesn't mean that they want sex .

Speaker 1

It means that they're open to having sex because they like you .

Speaker 5

I'm tired of being a bad guy all the time .

Speaker 2

To me that just sounds like a woman in general .

Speaker 1

No , they can't just sleep with someone I might be slightly um , I don't know that I don't know the term , but I'm saying like that that don't like sound , I mean what you just described you're not , you're not , you're probably not demisexual yeah

Speaker 4

but yeah you probably know , but you don't just sleep with my members . To sleep with them , yeah , but you have to have a connection with them .

Speaker 1

So yeah , but even like yeah , but even just have it that doesn't , yeah , but what I'm saying is like , just because I have a connection with someone , that doesn't mean that I'll be willing to sleep with you of course like that you can have connections with a lot of people , but it ain't no , no I I want to go nowhere near that , like you get to a certain connection and then you open up just because you have a connection .

Speaker 4

Well , that's what I'm trying to say like don't women do that anyway . No , no , no , because I know people who just like sex and they will just have sex . Yeah , no , no , no , listen , listen , hold on . So let me explain what I mean here the bar .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the bar for sorry , the bar for sleeping with men is definitely dropped . But like , if you're good looking enough , that's enough , nah what I'm saying in general .

Speaker 3

Just sit down and you'll see it six foot one , mostly tour .

Speaker 2

I agree , talk can form a sentence .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , obviously like that and I had this friend when I was younger and it honestly blew me away and said this she was like she's like , no , she's like , I love going out every weekend and like choosing a guy .

Speaker 3

She's like yeah , and then I and I was like what she was like .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's kind of like you know , like Christmas , like you don't know what you're gonna get until like the ticket , and I was just sat there thinking like oh my god , absolutely crazy and that she genuinely enjoyed it and that , like she loved it and yeah and that's how I really started to to it is like that . It's like I do get your point of views because that is the majority . You see , like if you go out in clubs , that is what you see that behaviour every single night so she was gay ?

Speaker 1

huh , she was gay yeah , why were you interested ? Or something , a lot of women asking for a friend a lot of women can do that .

Speaker 2

I just never know who I am but a lot of women can be like that but the point I'm trying to make , they're not going to sleep with the five foot one dweeb who's fat . You know what I'm trying to say .

Speaker 4

There's still a bar , no , but someone is , though , because there's someone for everyone .

Speaker 3

No , I know so many men that are virgins . There's not a pretty women , though .

Speaker 4

There ain't . That's not the thing .

Speaker 1

I know bare men in their 30s that are still virgins because they can't find someone to be .

Speaker 2

That's what exactly .

Speaker 4

Really . Yes , you just wouldn't know this . You don't know number one , they're invisible to you .

Speaker 2

And number two that's why do you know how real that is , though ?

Speaker 1

about like unattractive men are invisible to women so the reaction in a man's brain when they see an ugly woman is annoyance . Yeah , so they're annoyed , which makes sense when you know , when you've got like the ugly friend that tries to cheer for him , why they're always annoyed at the fact . It's because your brain literally naturally reacts to an ugly female as annoyed by their presence but with women once again , adolescence , 80-20 rule , but with women , yeah , with women when there are men that are unattractive to us , our brain just doesn't see them .

Speaker 4

And it's so true , it's so like if you're like completely like maybe I've never seen them yet . That's what I mean . Maybe I've never seen them .

Speaker 1

That's why we always go oh no , we don't because we literally just don't register them , like I didn't even clock in .

Speaker 5

That's actually cold , you know . No , it's so cold .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , yeah but that's the point of it .

Speaker 3

It's a cold word , cold yeah muslims , don't you get me in society , and that's probably why we saw straight feeds come in mate let's have some fun with this now .

Speaker 4

Let's have some fun with this now what's the dream world today ?

Speaker 2

the ladies now right , just think back . You've been travelling around today . You've been walking around you've been driving around . Think of a man that you remember , that you've noticed today not a single one .

Speaker 4

I haven't remembered one . How many men do you ?

Speaker 2

think you've walked past today or drove past Loads .

Speaker 4

I haven't seen any of them . I haven't seen one .

Speaker 2

There you go . That's my point .

Speaker 4

Yeah , she walked past me .

Speaker 2

Exactly .

Speaker 4

Yeah , I haven't seen any , nah 100% .

Speaker 1

I went shops and everything today and I remember one man's face . The first man I saw today was you .

Speaker 2

And that's because you had to talk to him . Well , yeah but it's just like they're invisible . You can't see things that are invisible .

Speaker 1

No , it's real . It's real . Sorry guys , I'm sorry .

Speaker 4

I have to agree with that . But the way , the thing .

Speaker 2

I would say , is just that the only thing , the difference is right with men . We can make it up in other ways . So you know , you can make money , you can go to the gym . Your face might be hair , but you can look good , you can dress better and it would attract women . So there's ways that unfortunately for the other way for the women you can't cook , I can't lie like if you don't have the looks it's a bit of a mad tip .

Speaker 4

It's really sad that . I know it makes me sad .

Speaker 3

I know , but we're visual creatures .

Speaker 4

I know , but I know some like people who are not lookers and I just think I'm sorry . I'm sorry , it's tight .

Speaker 2

That's a way of saying yo yeah , fucking hell . Man , I'm sick of being fired . Just see you all .

Speaker 4

That's not what I'm trying to say that's basically what no ? No , because not everyone finds me attractive .

Speaker 2

Of course , not everyone's going to find you Exactly , so it's subjective . Do you think any men see you today ?

Speaker 4

I don't know .

Speaker 2

Oh , okay .

Speaker 4

Maybe . What are you talking ?

Speaker 2

about . It's crazy . It's crazy . Do you think any men see ?

Speaker 4

you today , I don't know no one's approached me , so I'm going to say no , I would have noticed .

Speaker 2

I noticed because there's a reason why we're not doing that .

Speaker 5

But I'm going to move on . That's a different topic , that's a mad topic . So the main , main question I want to ask is do you think women bring anything to marriage anymore ?

Speaker 4

yeah , I look at him trying to hold his laughter and he's not even fucking married so how would he know this guy ?

Speaker 5

so bring any value cooking and cleaning okay firstly stop there no , no , no .

Speaker 1

I actually I agree with , like the traditional . Yeah , no , because I do believe in traditional roles and I feel like , um , you know , some like are modernized , whatever , but that doesn't mean I don't believe in them . I think women are nurturers , women nurture men and I think they , your woman , should be the only person really that you can open up to and have that emotional safe space where you can be vulnerable , because you don't really get that anywhere else , as a man don't need to marry you to do that , though like .

Speaker 3

I think that's , that's a basic . That should be basic anyway . You should be cleaning , cook anyway .

Speaker 1

Basically no , like if we're providing , you don't have you don't have to get , you don't have to like be married to get that emotional space . Otherwise I feel like you wouldn't marry the woman unless you felt emotionally safe with her . But other than that , women bear children . Okay , so women , you literally can't build a family without a woman let's have some fun with this , then .

Speaker 2

I like having fun with these topics , right ?

Speaker 1

if I got a man , I'd happily I'm not saying that in a way where I'm looking down , no , no , no , yeah , you are .

Speaker 3

I'm joking , I'm joking . I'm joking as I provide . You know what I'm saying . Yeah , we have gender , of course , because it's the gender roles my man's letting me not work .

Speaker 1

I'm happy to keep the home clean , happy to cook you beautiful meals .

Speaker 3

I'll even pray while I cook them naturally do you need to be married to have kids no , we're just gonna go for a yes or no no you need to imagine ?

Speaker 2

no , because I know now once upon a time yeah , back in the day back in in the dream , back in the day where people were having sex when they were married and then you'd get kids if you marry me , which was a better deal for women . Yeah , this feminine bullshit . It's a worse deal for you .

Speaker 1

I agree we have to work . The players are just cleaning up with you lot .

Speaker 4

No commitment , I agree , I agree . I think now I'm older , I think now I would like to have kids in wedlock . Before I was a bit like it's whatever .

Speaker 2

You can say that because you don't have kids currently , I mean .

Speaker 1

I had a child out of wedlock and like , obviously I had a child when I was 20 years old and I think that obviously you , it's better if you have children in marriage , of course . That's how it was meant to be . That's how everything was set up , but that's the point , though .

Speaker 2

We can just have kids outside of marriage .

Speaker 4

Yeah , there was nothing wrong with having kids outside of marriage . There's nothing I came from . I came from .

Speaker 2

I would say people . It's a worst deal for women .

Speaker 1

It is , it is a worst deal for women , but then , but also it's like , what's the alternative ? Then abort the child , like that's the if you because of like having marriage outside of it is a sin , well then also getting rid of it is a sin . Do you know what I'm saying ? It's a blessing from God . Like yeah .

Speaker 2

But again I said this last week , there is a foolproof way that there's a contraception . Yeah , that is foolproof .

Speaker 4

Not having sex and I beat you . I do , I don't edit .

Speaker 1

What are you ? They can't make the whole . You always want to edit when it's nah .

Speaker 2

Generally don't edit the clips well , yeah , I'm just saying you don't like , you know , you can wait . I know it's hard , it is hard , but I'm saying women have more to lose when you are having sex .

Speaker 4

I agree with more than one person if you get pregnant .

Speaker 2

It's not a good deal for you , that you know what I mean . Well , yeah , in marriage you can have kids , you can have a loyal woman , you can have someone who cooks and cleans . You still don't need marriage now if you go back to the past , where yo ?

Speaker 4

they're not going to do that unless you marry them fair enough , yeah , but again we're talking about my majorities and minorities . The majority is not going to say yeah , like we're going to have to get married to have kids , because everyone's already .

Speaker 1

I get what you mean I get your point .

Speaker 4

They should they ? Definitely should . I think they should , yes , but it's like again , it's the majority is not doing that ?

Speaker 5

so is that pressing you now ? Do you feel like that's putting pressure on you and putting pressure on females in general ?

Speaker 4

I think it is putting pressure on females in general because it's like no one's really pushing . Because of the society we live in now , I don't think anyone's pushing for marriage as much Again . When I was , maybe even five years ago , I would have been like , oh , I'm not really bothered . But I think for I feel like as women , we do need to have more .

Speaker 5

I think there's more stability in marriage so what's , what's the value that you can provide in marriage , then ?

Speaker 4

everything a man wants . As we spoke about , we'd have to cook , we have to clean , we have to look at .

Speaker 5

Well , I can get a clean look at that and I can get a cook for that , so I don't need you to do that well , that's what you're gonna have to do then if that's what you want to do , how about this ?

Speaker 2

how about this ? I've got a better question go on what can you provide for your future husband that you've never given to any other man ? The silence , the silence .

Speaker 4

No , I'm just trying to think no , it's not even a thing , it's just like how I'm just trying to think no , it's not even a thing .

Speaker 1

It's just like how I'm going to construct it , about him immediately Pressing a fucking button . Do you know what I'm saying ?

Speaker 5

Alright , so I'll , I'll let him respond . I'll make it a bit easier . So Make it easier Because to my partner I need someone who can I can naturally bounce off and naturally Go in comfort .

Speaker 2

Why are you helping him out ? Let him answer first no , because coming afterwards , no , no , no , let him go first .

Speaker 5

I'm not , I'm not , I didn't say you were , but it just breaks the silence a little bit . So I like someone who I can naturally bounce off and who can give me guidance in places when I've got a bit of confusion , a bit of neglect per se because of my own , because of my own doing so . That's why I need someone who can be that okay , then you've gone wrong in this way . I think this way is better things about nature . I don't need you to physically do anything for me , because I can get that . I can do it myself , or I can get someone else to do it for me . It's that connection where , like the barack obama and michelle type type situation , by the way .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I was going to say a man .

Speaker 3

What Michael Obama ?

Speaker 2

What , what , what ? She's a man .

Speaker 1

Wait what .

Speaker 5

Yeah , but to your point then .

Speaker 1

Yeah so number one number one , like how you said how you said like see with my partner , I need this , this , this Number one . How do you know she's not really giving that to another guy before ? Which one any , any , any point . Oh , I was gonna say oh no , I mean , the healers as well , master healers .

Speaker 1

So but my point is , what I was gonna say is , like when , like for me I think it's different for everyone , but for me personally , like I've been in love do you know what I'm saying ? But I definitely haven't found , like my person , and I definitely and there's so many parts of yourself that never get seen , heard like tapped into when you don't , you're not fully in love or with your person , do you know what I'm saying ? So I feel like there is so much of me , so much of like my love , that hasn't even been opened yet and from stuff that I've , you know , done for men , or you know , and I would say the most I've ever provided for done for men , or you know , and I would say the most I've ever provided for men is with my heart , or what I'm , you know , my wisdom , or , like you know , trying to protect them spiritually , because I think that's what women are supposed to do . Men protect in the physical realm and women protect men in the spiritual realm . I think there's so many different levels to it .

Speaker 2

It's just all about getting to that level of that person and also seeing what they need , because not all men want the same thing .

Speaker 4

Yeah , so it's like catering to like .

Speaker 2

I get what you're trying to say . No , it's true , it's like catering to their needs .

Speaker 1

We generally want the same thing what he's trying to say . Not really because you were talking about emotions before .

Speaker 4

like Like you wouldn't feel comfortable opening up emotionally to a woman . I didn't say anything , I just dropped my head . No , that's what you said before . What Off camera when we're talking ?

Speaker 3

about emotional Opening up to women is not a good thing , we need off camera , no but , you shouldn't unless you're with a person , unless it's a wife . That's what I'm saying Exactly .

Speaker 4

So a lot of men say , oh I , you've not found the right woman because- .

Speaker 3

That's true , though , even when you do it is dangerous , though it's very dangerous , of course . Yeah , but that's a person thing .

Speaker 4

It's also dangerous for us to open up emotional- .

Speaker 1

I don't think so .

Speaker 4

Of course it is because men this is on a human level , I think , am I right ?

Speaker 2

Of course it is . I'll explain what I'm saying now , yeah , and then I'll let you . I've literally seen like an ex break down because they couldn't find their house key . Like crying .

Speaker 4

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Now I didn't see her any differently .

Do Women Bring Value to Marriage Today?

Speaker 2

I'm just like , yeah , you're a bit emotional . Fine , it's fine , I'll help you find it , whatever .

Speaker 3

Now , imagine if the roles were Crazy .

Speaker 2

You reckon I could break down ?

Speaker 1

and start crying and find the keys Women and men , we won't get that grace .

Speaker 4

We're not getting that grace , but what you break down over is going to be different one sec .

Speaker 1

You're just kind of low key playing victim , bro , because all you ever go is oh , but women and men are different .

Speaker 3

But you've just admitted , we're going to break over different things because even if you break over a house key , you gonna look at man like you're fucking of course I'm gonna look at you like bro yeah , it's just .

Speaker 1

It's just the key , but this is what I'm saying . Men and women are different they are . You know , I'm saying so like a woman , literally is what we're fueled . We run off emotions so yeah we're gonna cry .

Speaker 2

We might cry if we can't find our key , but then that buys into what we're saying yeah , but that's we're saying that obviously we can't really open up like that to you . So you can something , you say something , say that , but your actions are always no but the action .

Speaker 5

Would you be happy with your man breaking down over the ?

Speaker 2

house key .

Speaker 4

Not a house key , because I feel like You're going to say that's it . No , but Hold that thought .

Speaker 2

That's the reason , because we don't know , because every woman's different to what you're tolerating , what you think is okay , some women won't care . If you break down over the key , you might if we was together , I wouldn't care . The point is that we don't know . We don't know where the line is of what you're trying to get from us .

Speaker 4

No , we don't know but I feel like , okay , maybe a man would break down over a house key . Who knows , would you accept it ? I would accept it . If you're that emotionally hurt over not finding a key , then that's cool , that's cool . But I just think that a man should be able to open up to a woman emotionally , and if you can't , that is not your person . What I was going to say not your person .

Speaker 1

What I was going to say is that , right , when you first start talking to a guy , yeah , if the guy is hella emotional , yeah , and he's opening up mad straight away and he's like porn , then you are put off as a woman because we are the emotional ones , okay , we lead with emotion , and so we don't seek that from a guy straight away .

Speaker 1

When you are then building the connection with the guy and it goes deeper and you're starting to to trust each other and yet you kind of build in the foundations , that is when you start to tap into the man's emotion and you show them that you can be , that , that space for them . And when they you know , I mean with me , like when it's been a guy they start to like say stuff and you just be there listening , space and I'm saying and , and it builds . But you can't do it straight off , you can't do it off the bat to be a hella emotional man , because men can't lead with emotion . So , yeah , you might not get the same grace as crying over a khaki , but if that was my man and he suddenly breaks down crying over a khaki , I'm going to know why you're crying over the khaki because you're my man and because I understand you emotionally .

Speaker 4

So basically what you're saying and it's probably not even over the khaki .

Speaker 2

Yeah , exactly it's deeper than the khaki . I hear you , I hear you , so . So , basically , what you're saying is and yo you tell me you speak . This is how I interpreted it , right .

Speaker 4

Let's say I know what you're going to say , just say be stoic , be not emotional .

Speaker 2

To get me .

Speaker 4

No , she didn't say that , so hold on no , because that's what she's saying .

Speaker 3

She's saying when you first meet , you can't be overly emotional and the person you fell in love with the stoic is now you're changing .

Speaker 4

She didn't say that , though she didn't say that , yeah you're , you're missing , no , you're missing . I get what you're saying .

Speaker 3

Still , let me say you're gonna understand the reason behind . It's not gonna be the car key . There's gonna be probably more things behind it and you're gonna understand them , man .

Speaker 1

So yeah , you're gonna know your man but what he's trying to say is what you guys are trying to say is that we're asking for this version and then all of a sudden , we're gonna be like , oh , you switched up , we haven't got that version anymore . When you become softer we know that men have emotions . We're not stupid okay , when we want to see that you can be strong , we want to see that you can be , that you can handle your emotions and not lead with it , we know that you have them . In fact , we want to be that space for you . Eventually , you know , I'm saying we want that's . That's the best part of a relationship with a man and a woman . Is art , personally , is when you are that space . I feel like there's the balance , is like it can be amazing . So you do . But the same way for a woman . A woman has to , you know , kind of act a certain way to to maintain the man , and you might say no , you don't , no , you don't but all women , all women ?

Speaker 1

you definitely . You are not off the bat as crazy as you are when you first start talking to the guy . Are you crazy ? Are you mad ? Like that builds over time , like you get to know , you get you both get more emotionally secure .

Speaker 3

You're emotional .

Speaker 2

That's fair . That's fair point . We know you're emotional , so it is what it is .

Speaker 1

And we know you have emotions , but we just want to see that you can hold it down before we let you in , because if we've got a man , that's all over the place .

Speaker 2

So you're training us to not be emotional first . We're not training you .

Speaker 4

No , no , no , no , no . We're not training you , we're seeing you if you're already trained .

Speaker 1

But my with emotion , we know you have emotion . We know you have emotional moments . You have to not lead with it , be overly emotional . Where to the part where we feel like we can't be emotional as women because you're taking that role when a man is overly emotional in the beginning . You put us into one masculine energy .

Speaker 1

Emotional men are very dangerous because we can't then be feminine if the guy is leading with a , with feminine behavior . We want you to be emotional when the foundation is built . Do you know what I'm saying ? We'll tap into that both sides , and that's just the natural course of a relationship .

Speaker 5

Fair , nice , okay , fair enough , I could rebut all of you , I'm just kidding no no , no .

Speaker 2

I actually understand what she's saying , but I'm just saying for us because we don't know where the line is . I would just say to guys like obviously I'm not saying to never talk to your girl , I'm just talking about the . You can't really be overly emotional at any point . Really , like I think acceptable things is maybe if someone dies , like things like that yeah , that's different . There's no way that she's gonna going to say , well , it's not all . I would disagree Not all .

Speaker 4

She would be on type of way about it .

Speaker 1

Can you still protect me . You need to protect me . Do you know what I would say ? You're wrong there , because if my man come home from work and he's had a hard day and been able to cry all day at work , so now you're coming home to me to cry . This is where I step in and do my role as a nurturing woman .

Speaker 5

So to me that doesn't make sense .

Speaker 4

I agree with that , you agree with that I agree with that .

Speaker 5

For how long ?

Speaker 4

after the podcast ends yeah , no , no , I agree , I agree with that , I just think . I just think men should be able to be emotional alright cool , think the three men in the room disagree with that because you have not been around the right women . Why is ?

Speaker 5

that . No , no press press dream man , please , I beg you . So your guy comes from home from work yeah , it's the first of january and he's saying you know what I can't stand . This breaks down to you yeah , let's start a new lease . First of february does the same thing . First of march does the same thing .

Speaker 4

Yeah , first of april does the exact same thing yeah you can be acceptable for each part yeah , and then we'll have a conclusion of maybe you need to get a new job because you clearly don't like it there yeah , I , I wouldn't let it go that far .

Speaker 1

to be honest , I think that falls a month in and he's still .

Speaker 3

I think you don't like your job at this point . Don't change your dreams , my bro , when I say I wouldn't , let it go that far .

Speaker 1

I mean like when I'm seeing that he's still like it's impacting his mental , even after a few weeks a month let's have a .

Speaker 4

How can we fix it ? Yeah , and if it changed , he goes May , may , now 1st of May , same thing . Yeah , but has he ?

Speaker 5

tried to change the situation change jobs , change jobs but he's still stressed well , we need to dig deeper .

Speaker 4

Why is it coming from ?

Speaker 1

yeah , there's always stress , stress . I'm not being funny , we need to find where it's coming from .

Speaker 5

There's always stress , 100% , always but he cries to you about it because he doesn't cry to anyone else about it , he just cries to you about it . Every time he's stressed , he comes to you and cries .

Speaker 2

That's your job If you're a man and you don't have no stress in your life you're not successful .

Speaker 4

I feel like that's your job as a woman too .

Speaker 1

Yeah , but I also think it's very unrealistic for the man to come home and cry .

Speaker 2

You're giving unrealistic , no , but hold on , wait , because I think it was out . Remember , if you're emotional , you're emotional . You can't turn it on and off . You're emotional . So if you're an emotional person , you're an emotional person . You understand what I'm trying to say .

Speaker 1

Then we change the job until you find one that you're happy with . No , but the point is that is emotional , so it's just emotional .

Speaker 2

If you want an emotional guy , he's emotional . He might even hit you , yeah , but that's what I'm saying . I would have vetted that out . I would have vetted that out .

Speaker 4

That's what emotional men do to not control their emotions , because what you're saying now has no logic . That's too far . What ?

Speaker 1

you're saying now has no logic because I've just said , yeah , that my man needs to not hold it down if you need to where's the line ?

Speaker 2

where's the line ? Okay , how do we know where the line is ? I'll put twice to you .

Speaker 5

That's what I'm asking , because if he's coming to you once a month , from breaking not breaking down to you , but allowing once a month or every day once a month , once a month . I'll say once a month , once a month .

Speaker 1

I thought , you meant every day once .

Speaker 3

That's even crazy , though they should be allowed to come and cry to you once a week . I'm confused . I was only .

Speaker 1

I ain't crying since I've been 12 years old Listen my reaction then was I thought you meant he comes home every day from work and cries .

Speaker 2

Now you're saying once a week , once a month .

Speaker 1

Come and cry to me once a month .

Speaker 2

Once a week .

Speaker 3

Once a week I can to say you might win the situation for me personally , you're gonna think what the fuck's going on .

Speaker 2

So hairline okay cool , hairline is once a day .

Speaker 1

I'd be thinking , ah well , because then I'm also gonna think you're a man and I'm also in this with you and I would be trying to find other jobs or ways that we can work around , and I'd want my man to be proactive and do Do you know what I'm saying ?

Speaker 2

Once a day , yeah , once a day .

Speaker 3

I could do once a week . Let's ask you now then , once a month , once a day , for how long I can take once a month and once a week , but if you're crying over something once a day , we need to find a solution together .

Speaker 4

But also it depends on whether it's just a patch .

Speaker 2

Can you cry once a day ? Can I like ? Do you think a man would accept you crying once a day ?

Speaker 4

I don't think a man would . You don't think so ? No , I don't , because I'll tell you why . Because if . I'm coming home every day crying about something and I'm not trying to change it , then that's a problem I wouldn't really care . I think , I think yeah .

Speaker 2

I should . There's no line . No , I think .

Speaker 4

I think I should be able to , but I don't think men are going to accept me coming home every day crying if I'm not trying to find a solution .

Speaker 2

Yeah , girls cry all the time , especially when it's that time about that .

Speaker 1

Yeah if you're not solving .

Speaker 4

Yeah if I'm not trying to solve . If , yeah , they might get annoyed with that situation . Yeah , but in general , yeah , but in general , yeah , but if it's the , if we're talking about what we're talking about before with the job and I'm not trying to do anything about it , then I feel like a man would get annoyed if I that's the problem there .

Speaker 2

That's what I'm going to say . Because we don't know the line , it's better to just be stoic just be stoic ?

Speaker 4

I don't think so .

Speaker 1

I don't think you should just be stoic sometimes some of the stuff you say . It makes me question the level of genuinely , makes me question the level of love that you have encountered with women in your life as an adult man , the depth not of love , of connection , should

Men, Emotions, and Gender Differences

Speaker 1

I say like true connection , because for me I've been in like , um you know , relationship where it is a true soul connection and we can talk about that stuff and we can level and we can set up things and we we understand each other . Do you know what I'm saying ?

Speaker 2

you have to be emotional to have that conversation like can't we just sit down ? No , but you have to have a certain level of emotional intelligence that's different , though emotional intelligence yeah , men are more emotionally intelligent than women . Anyway , key , go on google right now you can hold our emotions because people don't know what the definition of emotional intelligence key get .

Speaker 4

Key . Get the definition and read it and you tell me which one . I don't think men are more emotional .

Speaker 1

Let's see , okay , I'll give it to you in some situations and others .

Speaker 2

No , let's get the definition up , because women think that emotional intelligence means to be able to let your emotions out .

Speaker 5

No no , there's nothing about that , Sorry so read the definition the capacity to be aware of , control and express one's emotions , and to handle interpersonal relationships judicially and empathetic .

Speaker 4

empathetically okay , so what's the percentage men and women .

Speaker 5

So who has more ?

Speaker 1

okay , give me one second okay , so , okay , so , whichever way it goes , the media says things , it's women , but men can show their emotions a lot better you just said .

Speaker 4

you just said ask google and Google will say men , okay .

Speaker 2

No , I didn't say that . I said get the definition of it . The definition is basically to control your emotions .

Speaker 1

You did imply that .

Speaker 4

No , I didn't say that you did . You said you did , yes , you did .

Speaker 2

I just said get the definition roll it back .

Speaker 3

Yeah , before that I said what ?

Speaker 1

sorry , I don't know word for word . But you said , like about how men are more emotionally intelligent . Prove it , yeah , okay , so emotionally intelligent . I think that I'm not saying that some men aren't emotionally intelligent . I think my dad is an incredibly emotionally intelligent man , but I would say women are more emotionally intelligent in general and I think just one example off the bat that you cannot deny and you will you'll even get this childbirth .

Speaker 1

You can't always understand what your woman's going through or why she's going , why she's being that emotive over certain stuff , because you literally can't understand that . You might be aware , but to understand and empathize , going with the full definition , you physically can't . But as a woman , because we go through that , we can . But then there's going to be on the flip side , the same certain things that women we're not going to be able to be as emotionally aware of certain things that men go through , um , because , because we don't go through it , all right , but I would say , because women are nurturers , and because women do lead with emotion , I do think we are slightly more emotionally intelligent and emotionally aware .

Speaker 5

I've got the answer to that . I do so . There is a study that was out there and it broke it down , essentially saying that men and women because of their chemical makeup think differently , so men often have a bit more passion and a bit less irrational than women .

Speaker 2

Logical .

Speaker 5

Yeah , so women can express and identify sadness and anxiety a lot better than men can . So their perceptions are completely different because of their chemical makeup . So with men they have more of a flight or flight reaction , whereas with women they have more of a flight or flight reaction , whereas with women they have more of a , as you guys say , more healing , more nurturing reaction .

Speaker 1

so they will identify things that will make you sad or that means attention and what men are going to identify things that make you safe or make you look , and that's because that's what we're meant to do . Women are meant to nurture and heal and that's just supposed to protect .

Speaker 5

I'm not saying whether that's because that's what we're meant to do . Women are meant to nurture and heal , and then it's supposed to protect . I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong , but it makes sense , it makes sense .

Speaker 2

I don't know .

Speaker 1

I don't know .

Speaker 3

I'll tell you why . I'll tell you why , yeah .

Speaker 2

Because if you know if women are great at sensing these things , which is fine , like say that they are or not , I think a lot of the time you don't know when we're sad .

Speaker 4

Because you don't want to show it , no , but you said that you can sense it . You said , you can sense it , I would disagree .

Speaker 1

Spiritually spiritually . Listen .

Speaker 3

I feel , I feel energy I can feel it , especially if it's my man .

Speaker 1

I'm going to know just by looking . Even if you don't even if you , the man , don't want to be seen , let's talk in general , look in the majority .

Speaker 3

I can't talk in general .

Speaker 2

Bare men are deleting themselves and no one knew that they were sad . Nobody knew the woman didn't know , the family didn't know . Yeah that's true , and they're deleting themselves at a higher rate than women .

Speaker 4

Mental health is not talked about still .

Speaker 3

And people don't know that they're sad .

Speaker 4

You need to be talked about more . Of course , I do agree the point is that you're not .

Speaker 2

You're not sensing these things . Your partner don't know , your girl don't know . We just keep it in , like I'm not saying to keep your emotions in . I'm just saying express it to your guys , because they will understand more from your what you're going through , because they're also understand , but they also .

Speaker 4

I don't think that your boys will give you . Maybe this is what .

Speaker 2

I want you with . You like , yeah , we don't necessarily need to talk to you because there's even a study right , I tell you what . Let me explain like if I , if I was to come home , let me explain .

Speaker 2

Tell me if you agree right , yeah if I was to come home and you just think that I've had a bad day , right , and I just lie on the bed and you just come over and you just , you just put my head on your chest and just start playing with my head , rubbing my head , or like rubbing my legs on my back or something .

Speaker 3

I'll appreciate that .

Speaker 2

We don't need to talk . That's the support that I need . I don't want to sit and talk . We don't always want to sit and talk . Like for me , I don't know about you . Sometimes my friend just comes over to my house . We're just gaming , we're not even talking . Yo , we're bonded . Yo , cool Gone . You like to talk ? Sit and talk . I've seen women , strangers , sit and have a full-blown conversation . I'm like yo , what's going on ? You ?

Speaker 4

don't even know each other , you know what .

Speaker 3

I'm trying to say , so the point I'm trying to make , especially in our emotions verbally .

Speaker 4

That's not us just support us the other way , hug me kiss me , rub my hair , do that , put me some food like .

Speaker 1

I don't want to sit and talk . That's what I was trying to say with the whole female and nurture . It's not always about talking , it's literally nurturing you , like giving you that , that female touch , that female nurture , that female love that you don't get anywhere else and that you have . You know , you get that from your mother as a child and then when you grow into a man it's not not in like a weird way , but you still need that balance that feminine balance .

Speaker 1

I've never found love sometimes sometimes I'm not saying that you haven't , but sometimes you say like , and that's why I asked you .

Speaker 2

Are you talking in men or are you talking in women ? You say stuff and I'm like I hear you , the men in the room are agreeing with me , so it's just like you're not really sensing .

Speaker 3

You're not really sensing the room right now you're meant to be good at sensing emotions . I understand . Women don't think like men , so they're thinking their perspective they like to talk .

Speaker 1

Yeah , but that's that's kind of my whole point . I've been saying men and women are different .

Speaker 3

Women run off emotions .

Speaker 1

Men work off logic . Like I acknowledge it , the men are going to agree with you because you're all chemically built the same . That's why we're agreeing , because we're chemically built .

Speaker 2

We have the same perspective . You're right there . I agree with that . But the point I'm trying to make is right and I'm going to move on now because Katie's pressuring me . He always likes anyways , I'm just going to say like there's a reason why men feel that we can't open up to you . Just think about that . I'm going to move on now . Just think about what you think . The reason is why we think that .

Speaker 1

I agree generally . I agree not me .

Speaker 2

I'm not saying why . Why there must be a reason . Just think about that food for thought we spoke about it .

Speaker 5

Desensitivity , all of that shit like loss of moral if you've got an opinion , put it in the comments as well . We'd like to discuss it you do not .

Speaker 1

I'm going to come back with a paragraph oh shit back to you is there any more .

Speaker 5

No , no , no , that's it from me .

Speaker 3

So shit was that just a question .

Speaker 2

Yeah , four questions that's what I mean . Sometimes , when I started doing the live show , I was like this is going to happen because the people are going to be setting the questions up .

Speaker 2

Right , there's something else that was trending . Yeah , I meant to talk about it in the last show , right , I was trying to get people's opinion on it . There was a lady , right , she was opening a gym Like you must have seen it on social media . Yeah , I've seen this , so , and then she's basically saying that she doesn't want trans women in there . It's just for women , biological men . Yeah , and obviously she got a lot of backlash from it from what I , from what I've seen , right . But I just want to think what do you like ? Think I'll give my opinion at the end , but what do you like ? Do you think like she's out of order ? I haven't saw it .

Speaker 3

You know , oh , you haven't seen it .

Speaker 1

So basically , she a couple years ago . She's like I'm gonna start a women's only gym and when she was talking about creating it and she was receiving funds from it from people as well she said that it would be inclusive to um trans women as well . Then she finally , uh , opens it and it's just a women's only space , no trans women . And what she's also did was um refund anybody that was unhappy because they donated , thinking it was going to be an open space for trans women as well . She refunded anyone that was unhappy with that , gave it back to them and she just kind of said you know , I just want to save space for for women only . You know , women , and I don't think there is anything fucking wrong with that . Like she got so much hate and I really don't get it like . So what ? Like ? And if I feel like if , if trans women want this , go go make one for trans women .

Speaker 1

No , no one is going to complain , no one is going to be angry . Everyone will be happy . They've got their own space . No one's going to bat an eyelid . So why are you batting an eyelid when it's a woman's only gym ? And do you know what really , really fucks me off ? Am I allowed to swear . Yeah . What really fucks me off , yeah , is that you know trans men . Yeah , you don't see trans men out there trying to change the way that men are doing stuff and like , oh , men's shavers now have to have this or anything like that . But trans women , yeah , which are men that are transitioning to women , are trying to change everything about women period pads , chest feeding , all of this and it just hurts me .

Speaker 2

Remember it's because they want to be women .

Speaker 1

They're not going to focus on the men's side , but it's so .

Speaker 2

I think it's because they want to be women .

Speaker 1

They're not going to focus on the men's side , but it's so . I think it's so disrespectful to who we are as women .

Speaker 2

Do you think that she's entitled to do that ? Yeah , she's 100% entitled that's crazy . You can't be mixing that what do you think as a woman ? Let's get the woman's opinion . Do you think she's alright to do that , or do you think she's out of order ?

Speaker 4

in my opinion , I think , do you think she's all right to do that or do you think it's out of order ? In my opinion , I think it's a tough . I think this subject is a tough subject . The thing is , I don't think she's out of order because it's her business . She can do whatever she wants with it . But it's a tough one because I really I'm very like I . Why do you think I I back for trans women ? Because I do agree , I agree with the whole transitioning thing . If that's what you want to do and you feel like you're trapped in a different body , then go for it , like I'm very for that , because I do believe that you can be born feeling like you're in the wrong body . So for me , I just think , I just think for her , just , it's her business , so she can do what she wants with it , whether it's right or wrong .

Speaker 3

I'm sorry . Is that a new thing , though you're backing it like , come on , is this a normal thing or is this a new , new generation ? I think it's a new .

Speaker 4

I do for . Well , to be honest , I think it is a new generation thing , because obviously when I was growing up it wasn't a thing , but I do . I just think people should be who they want to be , and if you want to be a man or a woman , then that's what I believe .

Speaker 1

I think do whatever you want . Whatever you're going to do , as long as it ain't affecting my life , I don , yeah , could not make no difference to me . Go be whatever you want to be . But the second that it has to be , I have to change my personal belief , my perspective . Anything has to change the way that . Why ? Why have we got to do that to accommodate other people ?

The Women-Only Gym Controversy

Speaker 1

And my thing is is that and this is a controversial to say , but I really don't care you have Exactly so hair . Um , you have exactly so .

Speaker 1

The whole gender dysphoria thing is rooted mentally , like how you said you can be born feeling like you're born in the wrong . Yeah , it is a feeling . Yeah , depression is also a feeling . You can have loads , you can schizophrenic people hear things . You know I'm saying they genuinely hit and hallucinate things . We don't then tell them that they're actually there , tell them the voices are real . We don't then tell them that they're actually there . Tell them the voices are real . We don't then tell people no , you're actually depressed , actually stay in that rut and don't get out of bed .

Speaker 1

We help them to find enlightenment and be happy in their own skin , and I feel like this is where we're failing , especially children . We're encouraging them to say , yeah , all these confused feelings . You're completely right . Let's make it your reality , instead of trying to make them happy in the skin they were born in , which is the most healthiest thing to be . Is is happy and confident in your own skin , walking in your own power . So I think that woman is so , like you said , it's her own business . She had every right and even the fact she changed her mind . I don't get why she's getting hate . You're allowed to change your mind . You're a human being .

Speaker 2

She even refund offered refunds to people that had sent funds to it because they thought it was going to be , you know , inclusive to trans women and the fact that it's not I think it's it's not that big a deal Like yeah , I think for me , I think I kind of agree what you're saying , but I just think when we start to get to the point where we're trying to ignore biology , that's where I will say that , the point where we're trying to ignore biology , that's where I will say that's where we have to start talking the truth , right . So obviously , yeah with you . I think if you want to transition or whatever , I think keep it away from the kids and I think you should be a certain age before you do it .

Speaker 4

Yeah , of course , because you can regret it .

Speaker 2

So I think , like the age when it is now , especially in America , like it's a bit too low for in America . I think you can . From school you can . And not only that , and as well you can get your kids taken off you as well , if you don't support it .

Speaker 2

That's what I was saying so I think you should have to be a certain age , 18 plus , and then I think you should have to actually speak to someone first , like a psychologist or something , and do a certain amount of like do you know the suicide rate when I was younger ?

Speaker 3

but I don't want to be a doctor now . You know what I'm saying . You might . The suicide rate is higher post-operation if you actually look at statistics .

Speaker 1

It does not fulfill these people after the transition , and that would then indicate that it is an internal issue so many and because they're not warned of the effect and how intrusive the surgery is and the fact it's not always successful . You have people that have then literally got lifelong open wounds . They've got issues that are irreversible , and the whole children thing is , I think it's abuse for children . I think it's terrifying .

Speaker 2

I think , yeah , do what you want , but obviously at a certain age don't push it out onto the children . That's for me and for me with her business . I think if she's her business she could do what she wants . She wants to open an all-female gym . Like , open an all-female gym . It's her business . See , I'm even more controversial than that , like people might think I'm crazy . I think if you own a business , you are entitled to recruit or employ whoever you want . That's black or white .

Speaker 2

If you don't want to employ black people , that's your . It's your business . Like people might think I'm crazy to say that white people or whatever it is like do what you want .

Speaker 4

It's your business and it comes to your business .

Speaker 2

I think you should do what you want people will have their biases based on their upbringing . Let them do what they want , like , if anything , if it's the wrong decision , the business will . People or white people or whatever , and you know you don't want to serve them . Your business is going to stop that . To be honest with you , I think you should just be ultimately down to whatever you want to be and if she wants to open a female gym .

Speaker 1

Let her open a female the world's getting too sensitive as a grown adult do what you want , do whatever you want , but the second we have to start changing all our lives . And all this that's wild . No , just do your thing and be happy with it . I agree .

Speaker 2

Well , yeah , I think she should be taught to do what she wants to do . I actually respect her for doing it and standing on her ground and not folding under .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and I respect her for not folding under the pressure and holding it down because she's got hundreds of thousands of people coming for her , for literally creating a safe space for women . Thank you , and thank you to the woman I'm saying I I feel safer in there just because it's straight women a lot of the time in gyms .

Speaker 3

It is a ladies only bit as well , so I can't like yeah , there is a lot of sexism .

Speaker 5

To be fair .

Speaker 3

It's true , I agree with that over the men's only gym now , because we don't know anything like that need to hear what I'm saying . I've never been a thing like that ever right .

Speaker 2

So another trend I've been seeing I've tried to understand the flex right . So the trend is like what is it ? So basically X age , so I don't know 30 , 35 and no kids , and like they're dancing and everyone's in this trend , oh , kind of like dancing on the wall , like no , I don't understand the flex of that .

Speaker 1

I don't get it .

Speaker 2

I think so they're bragging about they don't have kids at a certain age .

Speaker 1

They're basically bragging that they're 40 and they've got no kids and they're all happy . For me , that's the purpose of life , like personally , I think we're here to you know our souls transcend through the love that we have with our kids you know what , I don't get , what the trend is , so people are just bragging .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I don't understand it .

Speaker 1

I don't get it either . I mean , some people might not want that for their life and that's cool , but it is what it is , I think but it's the dance and flex and the thing I don't like .

Speaker 2

What's the ? I don't get the flex .

Speaker 4

I've not seen it . I can't comment on that . I don't know .

Speaker 1

It's like you know when I'll be in rap battles , yeah , and they like , cause they'll be like oh , look at you with your son and I'm thinking , yeah , look at you with no family . I go home to love every single day like , cuss me for it .

Speaker 2

Cool that's it Fair enough . And the last thing I we had a clip Right on cancer culture right , and then I kind of got into like a conversation with someone and this girl was always debating us in the comments .

Speaker 1

It's crazy .

Speaker 2

still , I can't remember her name , isn't it Something like Little Asian Needs ?

Speaker 1

or something . But anyway , do you know who I'm talking about ?

Speaker 2

G-Word Warrior . Yeah , she's literally always in there debating , right . I mean , obviously we're just talking about obviously like sex and how it affects the genders , etc . Right , and I'm basically saying like for me she's implying like oh , how come you keep talking like sex is something that's being done to a woman , right , and I was like cool , like physically , obviously it's being done to you , because you're like you know what I'm saying , you're being penetrated , it's being done to you , and like she was just basically arguing against us , like she was like the illogical thing to me . She was like what , if she gets on top , right , and what I would say , you'll enter a hurdle . You see what I'm trying to say .

Speaker 2

You'll enter a hurdle , she's basically saying like say someone's holding a knife . Yeah , let's go into an analogy . So let's say someone's holding a knife . If I hold the person's right , I'm still being stabbed like the logic the logistics , the logistics don't change . You understand what I'm saying and like we just literally got into a whole debate , I don't know . What do you think ? Do you think it's always been done ? Or do you think a woman can fuck a man ?

Speaker 3

that's a bit bit of a swearing thing , but you know , it's more of a thing where it's like okay , cool you've got a younger kid you know where I'm coming from though he's going to be under pressure . Oh my gosh , I don't know what to do . That's the only way of terms I can see . Even that , he's still penetrating her . So it doesn't make sense . The logic we're logicking .

Speaker 4

Logic doesn't make sense .

Speaker 1

I think energy-wise it's like who has more dominance during sex , that'll be it , but the actual penetration , it's always going to be .

Speaker 2

It's always going to be that so basically . I've got logical people on this whole thing , so that's why the conversation is going to last that long . I've asked her to come on the show a few times , but she doesn't want to come on the show , she's just in the comments . She's just in the comments she's just in the comments and she doesn't want to come on , but I think she's just scared of it . To be fair , she don't want to come on and debate me because , it's just the logic's just not really logic .

Speaker 2

It's a good debate to have , yeah , but even like for me , even if you like , even if the woman's more dominant , like it doesn , yeah , that's it . That's crazy . Yeah , that's another subject . Yeah , it's the next podcast . That's a crazy one . I've had people like that . Alright , listen , we've come to the end of the show . We've been recording for like an hour and a half , been a while , guys , been a while . So what we're going to do is tell me how you think the show went , plug any social media or anything you want to plug , or start with yourself so my social media is at ayablu underscore that's a-y-a-b-l-e-u .

Speaker 4

And . Yeah , had a great time . I think there's some good opinions . We didn't agree at all times , but that's what these things are about and I just think yeah , thanks for having me . Everyone was great no vocals .

Speaker 2

Wait , you got any songs coming out ? I do , what's the song ? I have a song called pressure , pressure coming out .

Speaker 4

It's coming out the 25th of april . Make sure you get that can you find ? It um and everything . Spotify apple music . These are my pre-save . Link will be in my bio by the time this is out , I'm sure nice one day . One day can we get a bit of the song uh , while we're taking it slow green light boy , we can go straight to the . No , you can't get enough of my , I know you don't .

Speaker 2

You don't sound like how you sing . I know people say that makes sense are you gonna ?

Speaker 4

are you gonna sing like Liam Gallagher ? I'm like no .

Speaker 1

I'm not . You're such a lovely R&B singer . I love it like .

Speaker 2

I heard some of the R&B . You Jamaican , yeah , I had some Can't .

Speaker 4

Can't get enough .

Speaker 2

And in the studio I was trying to say Can't get enough .

Speaker 4

And the guy One of the guys in the studio Was like you can't say it like that . I said , alright , can't .

Speaker 2

Are you South from ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , I enjoyed it , man , it was good , good talks . Corey Cosmos Got a new song releasing Get your money .

Speaker 1

All Star Shows From Basquiat . You said you want some bars , Just a little bit yeah .

Speaker 3

This loud hit of crescendo , mixing it up like the benzo hit to the tempo . Tune my palm like a kimbo can't choose when I'm in limbo , can't even think Baby , I'm coming . Commando , talking phonetics like Tango . I need some ammo . She trying to link on the D-load . Reload .

Speaker 1

That's what you spit in a lovely minute .

Speaker 3

I've just turned into a twitter bandit as well , so I'm one of them , man still is he having a debate ? Nah , I'm just posting my random thoughts . Every day , bro , I can't like jokes .

Speaker 2

He's trying to start a war over there if you need some vocals you need a hook on my back .

Speaker 4

You need a hook . Come on back , tough in man tough in get me . You can't do a hook like that you can't do a hook like that jeez .

Speaker 2

What are you eating first time ?

Speaker 1

co-hosting . Yeah , let me know what you thought in the comments . Guys , if I should replace BK permanently , then let's kick him out . You can sit . You can come for me now , it's okay you can sit here need that diversity man he'd never . He'd never um . Nah , I had a great time . Thanks for having me . Um , yeah , I mean , I already know um . Cosmos was lovely for me . You used to , yeah .

Speaker 4

I definitely check my music . Yeah , can I hear some bars off you now ?

Speaker 1

oh no , we're not doing it please , just a little bit , just for me , just for me , please , please , please . I'll do something after okay , okay , okay .

Speaker 4

Can I hear your buzz ?

Speaker 2

you mean yeah , I don't have buzz , I don't .

Speaker 4

I mean , should I have buzz ? Yeah , why not next time . This guy has a choke on this .

Speaker 2

You're the bad one , the bad love , all right and that was cancel culture podcast guys thanks for watching .

Speaker 4

Should never know where that's from you know 8 mile .

Speaker 3

Yeah , come on big up , eminem man .

Speaker 2

I don't have past yeah , man listen . If you've been watching for almost an hour and a half makes no sense not to subscribe to the channel now . Press that

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Speaker 2

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