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Cancel Culture Podcast
The Cancel Culture Podcast, the pop culture podcast which discusses and reads out the funny stories you send in. This could be funny moments during sex, your dislikes in a women/man or just funny scenario's which has happened to you. We also discuss trending topics, current world new & social media news, sports news , relationship problems & other trending topics. We are a weekly running podcast with a new episode every Monday
Cancel Culture Podcast
EXPOSED! Astronomer CEO Gets caught on Coldplay Kiss Cam | CC EP 162
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At a Coldplay concert packed with thousands of fans, a kiss cam moment took a brutal turn, and the internet hasn’t stopped talking since. A tech CEO, allegedly from Astronomer, was caught on camera kissing a woman who wasn’t his partner… and now, it’s everywhere.
The Cancel Culture Podcast dives into the fallout. Was it just a random moment caught live — or a full-blown scandal that could cost him his career and relationship? Public exposure in the age of viral content doesn’t forgive quietly.
This isn’t just gossip it’s a harsh reminder that privacy is dead when the cameras never stop rolling. And sometimes, one concert can wreck everything.
Time stamps:
00:00:00 - Preview
00:00:54 - Kiss Cam Scandal & Cheating Aftermath
00:04:16 - Personal Cheating Experiences
00:07:18 - OnlyFans & Fetish Culture
00:09:53 - Intimacy Quirks & Sensory Preferences
00:12:46 - Guest Introduction: Sean/Chanel
00:14:51 - Intuition & Spiritual Warfare
00:18:54 - Religious Views & Modern Christianity
00:25:22 - Social Media & Authenticity
00:30:06 - Gender Dynamics & Dating Challenges
00:37:52 - Music's Cultural Impact
00:44:49 - Nightlife Realities
00:50:36 - Societal Concerns & Current Events
00:54:48 - Miami Privileges & Gender Advantages
00:59:48 - Relationship Foundations
01:06:11 - Authentic Connection Story
01:09:53 - Loyalty & Accountability
01:16:01 - Phone Privacy & Trust
01:20:25 - Peer Pressure Stories
01:31:14 - Friendship Dynamics
01:41:23 - Modern Communication Habits
01:47:55 - Trauma Oversharing & Accountability
01:54:59 - Closing Remarks & Socials
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Viral Cheating Scandal at Coldplay Concert
Speaker 1He's literally got caught on the kiss cam with another woman. Everyone's seen it. It's the embarrassment. She's changed her surname on Facebook. I feel like with Christianity it's a moral code. I don't follow everything in it. I always say I'm not religious, I follow Jesus, I have a relationship with God.
Speaker 2How can you make men less feminine?
Speaker 1Stop drinking tap water.
Speaker 2The dating scene right now is just a mess. Men and women are just trash in general.
Speaker 1Me, I would lick my man's armpit and think that's beautiful, isn't it?
Speaker 2But it's hairy though. Kids can vote now from 16 up.
Speaker 1I wouldn't be angry if they pushed the vote to 21. Girls in. Miami, everything's free, as much as there's like downs to being a woman. There are so many beautiful privileges to being a woman. Have you ever been cheated on? Yeah, I've been cheated on. How many times have you been cheated on? Twice, twice. Have you ever cheated Ski? I was like what are you acting?
Speaker 2like I know you, like that, I know you like that, All right.
Speaker 1so what are you doing if your man cheats on your Coldplay? Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah.
Speaker 2It's a viral video.
Speaker 1And he's literally got caught on the kiss cam with another woman. Um, I don't know, everyone's seen it. It's the embarrassment. She's changed her name on Facebook. She's changed her surname on Facebook. What?
Speaker 2his wife, or yeah his wife.
Speaker 1Yeah, his wife has got rid of his surname on Facebook. Yeah it's the embarrassment, that's what it is absolutely humiliating yeah because I feel like the normal rule when you have women that even if they're okay with cheating, what?
Speaker 2do they say Well, open relationship yeah.
Speaker 1What do they usually say? Don't embarrass me. Yeah, don't embarrass me. That's usually their go-to line. Yeah, don't embarrass me, don't let our friends know, saying like, oh, it's less emotional for a man. You're telling me a Coldplay concert. He had his arms wrapped around her. That's not emotional, because that looked like a full-on affair to me. No, literally you could see the tears in her eyes that she was like proper in the moment and they're like so embarrassed and I'm thinking think of the poor wife.
Speaker 2She's the one who's embarrassed? Yeah, but who was the woman next to them as well? One that they worked with recently promoted?
Speaker 1yeah, yes, he's an astronomer, astronomer, or something like that the ceo for that and I'm so sure he got caught with his trousers down. But it's the fact that someone that works with him and he's like just there as well, and she was embarrassed. She was like this, like yeah so humiliated, like she's not holding on it, but but the thing is, did you see his?
Speaker 1his apology no, like he did a statement online and he's basically like you know, um, this isn't the man I want to be, like I'm working on myself, give me privacy, like I'm sorry for you know, this embarrassment and everyone that I've let down my family, my colleagues and then he goes. Yeah, I respect artists, but really, like, my private life shouldn't have become a spectacle and they should really like, consider what's good. Oh, so it's Coldplay's fault. Basically, that's what he said.
Speaker 1It's not the man I want to be. The man I want to be is someone that doesn't get caught, basically. And then, long story short, coldplay keep out my business 100%. I just think the audacity to then, because he finished it off by Coldplay lyrics at the end, after literally saying it's Coldplay's fault. Yeah, that was stupid Coldplay lyrics at the end. I just thought what a waste man just be, just be accountable, like don't. It's the. It's a social embarrassment to me. That's what I just I couldn't deal, deal with.
Speaker 2That's what absolutely killed me but, at the same time, is anything gonna happen to him? Don't think so, no no, probably not he's too rich. He's too. You got too much of an influence too protected, too much power.
Speaker 1So many celebrities get cheated on, though, don't they really everyone I I'm terrified. Should I tell you why I'm terrified to get into a relationship? Because of this, because the men that I meet in relationships, that's what scares me. The men that will move to me or give me attention, that are in a relationship makes me physically ill.
Speaker 1They're in a relationship yeah yeah, like the guys, you know the guys that will try they'll have like a beautiful wife or a family and they'll be like trying to move to you or oh yeah, married men are the worst like, oh, like that terrifies me.
Speaker 1I just think like I don't want to be the wife so married oh, yeah, I shouldn't say all, I never say all anyway, but oh, I feel like majority of men cheat, though. But one thing, I one thing, yeah, I want to ask you um, if someone was okay, if someone was always going to cheat on you, yeah, would you prefer at the beginning, the middle or the end of your relationship like when I say end, I mean like you kind of both know like it's finishing or whatever or would you prefer at the beginning, where he got it all out of his system and then you know that you're gonna have like some fruitful life and he'll never cheat on you again or the middle? I don't really think middle is really relevant, to be honest, because if it's in the middle, I feel like there's no going back from that. Yeah, yeah, I would say I would. Well, I would like to say beginning, because I feel like there's pros and cons to both, because I feel like beginning is like Teething stage.
Speaker 1Yeah, like that's kind of when you find out each other's character, et cetera. But then also, if you don't rebuild the trust correctly, you're traumatized from the beginning of the relationship. But then the end it's like well, I'm hoping to die with you. So what do you mean at the end?
Speaker 1like that's what I'm saying if it's at the end and it's like you just know he's cheating on you, you gotta stay with him. But it's at the end, but I think it should. I think if it does happen, I'd prefer it to be in the beginning as well.
Speaker 1Yeah, because, it's the teaming issues, it's it's like you said, they're trying to find each other's character. You kind of find out and then you're like you know what? Is it going to happen again? It's for you to basically say yes or no. But when do you forgive If? You can forgive. It's a tough one. Have you ever been cheated on? Yeah, I've been cheated on. How many times have you been cheated on Twice Twice? Have you ever cheated? What are you've been cheated on Twice Twice. Have you ever cheated Ski I?
Speaker 2was like what are you asking?
Speaker 1me. What are you asking me? Yeah, yeah, you have. Yeah, see, I had you in my head as the guy that wouldn't cheat. No, you just broke the illusion. What age were you? I?
Speaker 2was quite young.
Speaker 1Okay. Okay, yeah okay very young, very immature and did she find out? Yeah, how did she find out?
Speaker 2uh, come on, it's poverty. You didn't sit on the couch for nothing yeah, no, that's wrong, um, so the first time it was more. So I told them okay, because, um, basically I went raw dug in it, so I was like oh, okay, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1I get, it was like I need to tell her oh okay, yeah, I get it, I get it so. I need to tell her but that's very responsible of you, because some people wouldn't even nah.
Speaker 2I had to tell her. I was like I did this. I did this.
Speaker 1Go get yourself checked at least there's morals under the mistake. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I respect that that ended the relationship.
Speaker 2There was another time. This one was pizza. Oh, I was just chilling in it.
Speaker 1And then Slipped and fell.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no. So nothing really happened.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2But it was like it was on course. I wouldn't say on course, but it was, something was going to happen.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. And then she walked in when she was supposed to be in edinburgh somewhere far oh my god, that's like textbook how people get caught.
Speaker 1That's crazy but in that, in that circumstance, like nothing happened yeah, I know what you're saying, but well, it's just had she had not walked in damaged limitation.
Speaker 2Something could have happened.
Speaker 1It was it was gonna happen I read a question earlier, and it said would you rather get cheated on by a man or him? Subscribe to your best friend's OnlyFans and you not know, isn't OnlyFans just like porn though?
Speaker 2Cool. Hold on, hold on. You're taking it as porn, that's it. Uh-huh, people have some wicked stuff in there, you know? Yeah, like the. What is it?
Speaker 1They do like one-on-ones as well don't they One-on-ones? Oh wait well, you're talking about when they can actually like talk to them and stuff, yeah like subscribing. Oh, they're not just watching videos and pictures.
Speaker 2Oh, when you subscribe you can do it all. I've never.
Speaker 1I'm not a subscriber. We talk to a lot of oh yeah, yeah, we'll tell us. Oh, I don't know then. Well, he's going to be having a conversation with her. Your best a friend's only fan. She's not my best friend anymore. Let's put it out there, um, or get cheated on. How many times am I getting cheated on? Oh, I don't know. You can't if it's terms and conditions.
Speaker 2Yeah, I need some.
Speaker 1T's and C's, because If it's subscription, how long is the subscription for?
Speaker 2Is it?
Speaker 1a day or.
Speaker 2I'll change it then. So the type so, rather than cheating Like having an affair, he just has a lot of One night stands or Subscribes to your best friends. I need to subscribe, subscribes and just get personables. Yeah, because.
Speaker 1Because with the subscription I'm getting angry thinking about it, I don't even know why. No, because with the subscription at least it's still like a computer screen or a phone screen in between them, you're telling me he's never going to cross paths with your best mate like you like if you think about it if she's my best mate the baby shower.
Speaker 1She shouldn't go too shower but if he's, she might not know, she might not know that it's. It's him that served. He might be under a fake name, but he's subbing to your, to your um and people ask for some crazy stuff in those, those little personal ones.
Speaker 2Isn't it like put some of your booty hole with this, this that they?
Speaker 1get some mad requests. I've heard some crazy stuff, but it's one. The girls actually do it. Yeah, happy to do it, happy to come on the podcast and then talk about it as well.
Speaker 1Send me your it, send me your toenails and your shit literally empty your like rubbish bag bag and like send it over and they'll pay for like your trash. It's mad, they pay for your trash. Yeah, yeah, yeah they. They pay me a lot. Toenail clippings I've heard about the toenail clipping ones, actually a bit weird. There's that one girl who went viral in it because she was like she basically teaches other women how to um do it like sell things, so she sells her own braids um every every eight weeks or something um.
Speaker 2Braids is in her, yeah, even witchcraft.
Speaker 1Way too hard for that. You're crazy, she said. She says she has four loyal. They call pay pigs. Yeah four loyal pay pigs, yeah, or loyal pay pigs, and they literally like pay for all of our stuff and they buy all our stuff, like her sweaty gym gear, her underwear, her bikinis. Someone, someone buys her bed sheets and she basically made a whole ebook where she like sells it for like for other girls to basically know how to do it. Men are out there buying all that.
Speaker 2It's crazy. People are crazy, not crazy. Know how to do it. Men are out there buying all that. It's crazy. People are crazy, not crazy, but like they've got some fetishes man, I wanted to leave writing that book.
Speaker 1What is it?
Speaker 2don't be simple do you know what? Don't be simple, nah. But nah, I mean, like here's what it is. Like I don't mind, like this is me just opening up, like it's a bit weird, but I don like just sniffing my girl's jaws sometimes. Just get her, you know what.
Speaker 1I mean, yeah, but I feel like that's a bit different, like that's, if it's your own girl, it's different, yeah just get her a roll man.
Speaker 2You know what I mean. Just get the whiff of her on me and you're just like where is she? Do you know what I mean? I'm gonna find you now someone else's is a bit weird yeah, but that's like me.
Speaker 1I would lick my man's armpit and think that's beautiful in it, but any other man's armpit I will literally go fanatical.
Speaker 2I thought this was just like a weird thing. But a lot of girls like to eat thick armpits innit.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm not quite like, I'm not quite, not even like not even necessarily it's like in general isn't it yeah, just like a when it's your man and like like they smell. So their natural smell smells so good and it's just like I get it. I don't. I haven't licked an armpit before, but I get it but it's hairy though men's armpits are really hairy you haven't just got to lick their hair. I need a.
Speaker 2I need a. I need a man.
Speaker 1Guide by guide step. Yeah, like Guide's armpits are hairy.
Speaker 2You basically avoid the middle and just get the edges in it.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, that's it. Or when people like Lick ears and stuff, yeah, yeah, but you lick, like If it was someone else You'd be like, oh, earwax, or whatever. But when it's your man, you don't really care. Listen, when I have like A man and everything, everything about him is beautiful to me, doesn't matter, like what it is, you can't. You can't give me the ick, you can't. It's physically impossible to disgust me. But as a man, that is not my man. Everything they do disgusts me, like hearing you breathe. Feeling your breath next to me makes you want to heave have you ever had?
Speaker 2like when you're sober as well.
Speaker 1That's magic you're just like go away when I was doing event work.
Speaker 2I'm like taking photos of that. That's the worst man. I'm telling you. It's the worst. Anyway, let's go to the introductions yes, introduce yourself our first guest. Oh, I'm shan so name name age, age, religion what you do in do and relationship status.
Speaker 1I'm religion. I'm religion as well. Yeah, okay, basically, give us the rundown. Okay, my name's Shan Well Chanel, but everyone calls me Shan. I'm 30. Do I say where I live?
Speaker 2Nah.
Speaker 1Okay, if you want to. Religion? Christianity by birth, I suppose. And what was the last one? Sorry, my memory is like relationships oh, yeah, I'm seeing someone. Yeah, and what do you do? Oh, I so like. My main job is teaching.
Speaker 1I'm a secondary school english teacher oh, lovely yeah and then um, but I do like a little bit of um other jobs, because you know you can't just have one job in this, uh, current climate. Um. So I do a bit of social media marketing. I um I source like entertainment and bottle girls for um lounges and clubs and um I also have like a brand that I've invested in as well, a clothing brand okay, cool, what's your clothing? Brand called um. It's called can't be labeled because you know we shouldn't be labeled. I like that that's nice.
Speaker 2I really like that yeah yeah, really authentic yeah, man gotta make sure you plug that man, yeah no, definitely what do you do with it? Is it hoodies, or is it?
Speaker 1so it's um, it's mixed uh streetwear okay, cool yeah, so it's boys and girls um streetwear kind of thing. We've got like one only female, uh, two piece at the moment, but we do try and try and just do mix, because we feel like girls just wear boys clothes these days anyway. So, yeah, I wear a lot of men's. Yeah, I love a baggy t-shirt. Love and baggy jogging yeah, everything oversized yeah, everything oversized. Baggy is the way forward. Definitely love shopping in the men's section.
Speaker 1That's a good show something I wanted to ask was we always hear about like the universe and the signs, and I think it's like a very big thing like today's culture. Is the universe the universe? Do you believe in the science for the universe? Do you believe in like spiritual warfare 100? I feel like yeah, like you know, when the people say like intuition and gut feeling and stuff, like I know, I already know when someone's lying to me without like knowing they're lying to me, kind of thing.
Speaker 1So it's even when we, if we go back to like the whole cheating thing as well, like I'll know if someone's cheating on me, the signs are there, they're all hitting me, slapping me in the face. But it's whether you choose to ignore them or accept them. And I feel as well, if something bad's gonna happen or something good's gonna happen, you can kind of just feel it, um, and then I'm definitely in tune with like the law of attraction, um, and what you give out is what you get. So if you're a good person, good things happen to you. If you're a bad person, bad things happen to you. No, I would agree. What about you?
Speaker 2I'm gonna disagree with you, with the uh, you gut feeling about lying, only because I've personally had someone say that I was lying. My gut's telling me you're lying and I'm like I'm not, I've got no reason to lie.
Speaker 1There was nothing you were lying about or anything. Maybe. Maybe it's a little. Sometimes they're just traumatised, obviously.
Speaker 2Yeah, it could be, I've done that before.
Speaker 1You know, when I'm just like not healed and I can't believe everything. People say that it's not just, it's not, that's not necessarily a gut feeling, it's just like a my brain latching on. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2yeah um, but I definitely believe in and sometimes that's what your gut feeling is. Yeah, so sometimes you can't always listen to your gut feeling. You can listen to your gut feeling, but you can't always think that it's right.
Speaker 1I get it. No, it's not a thing. But I feel like with your gut feeling as well. Some people, when you talk about trauma and stuff, people go spontaneously. They're like oh, my gut feeling, I feel like your gut feeling, you can't trust it. At first it's something that you keep feeling it. The same feeling like I've had someone literally lie to my face and I've asked them out and I called them out on it and they've lied to me and I was like you know what? I'll take the benefit of the doubt, I'll give you the benefit of doubt. I'll say you know what is what is kind of thing. But something just kept coming on at me and was like no, and the thing is as well.
Speaker 1The worst thing is is that they basically used my past trauma against me. They were like I know that you've been cheated on in the past. Yeah, this is just one of those things like you have to trust me. And then when the receipt actually came through and I was right, I didn't even know how to comprehend it. You know when your brain just basically goes you're like oh my gosh, I was right, but you don't even feel nice about it now. Yeah, no, I understand what you're saying you'd be angry at yourself for not listening.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, thanks. Will you see what anyone I can't? I can't be saying this if anyone ever says you have to trust me.
Speaker 1Just don't trust them oh, yeah, no, no, I never those. Yeah, it's like when, yeah, when someone says you have to trust me, or trust me like, or something like that, as soon as they say trust, then no, but they didn't say that. That's the thing. They were very clever of what they were doing, like I've even had girls that have said to me oh, when a girl says I'm a girl's girl, they're never a girl's girl oh yeah they're never a girl's girl.
Speaker 1The women that you meet, yeah, and they're all like hi, fakest bitches you'll ever meet in your life the women that are sat there like this you know, realest bitch you'll ever meet in your life.
Speaker 2Facts facts once they go resting bitch face.
Speaker 1She's just a real bitch. Yeah, who's she trying to look happy for?
Speaker 2No, facts, facts, facts, facts. You see, those girls that are just overly hyped I don't know what I'm saying. Girls, women, they're overly hyped, like when their voice is like oh, my days man, it just goes straight through me. I was watching, watching it on um on youtube, that dating shows that are like something like that, and sometimes you get like different, different people come through and like the women that have the voices that are just like like barbie-ish I end up just being the catty like, yeah, yeah, I have to mute it because it just goes through me.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, I hear it but I I'm surprised.
Speaker 1I'm surprised you noticed that, though that they're the catty ones, because most of the guys that I've spoke to, when the girl's all like high pitch and like so friendly, they're, like they're such a nice girl and I'm like do you not know who she is? Yeah, but that's because most men are. Do you have any like spiritual warfare stories where, like you just knew you were in a spiritual attack? Like that you're able to discern? Like that you're able to discern? What do you mean like a good or bad one? I thought, well, I've got one. Okay, I'll give you a couple.
Speaker 1Like I was like, um, okay, one sec, one sec, safe space for safe space for personal stories, all right, but I was basically, um, I was having a really bad few mental days, and when I say like really bad, I mean I'm up and down anyway, but I was like crazy, like like not sleeping, like it was just so. I was having back-to-back like nightmares, and I'm convinced I don't even dream, but I just traveled and see, you know, messages from God anyway. So I was just having really intense dreams and I woke up and I just had this feeling over me. I was just like there is something over me right now. There is like something messing with me. And I had a text from my friend, um, and he was like how are you? Like I just had a feeling checking on you. I thought that was really weird and I was like um, I was like thank you, like I, I appreciate I'm actually not too good at the moment.
Speaker 1I was like I think feel like I'm under spiritual attack and he knows the bible quite well and everything. He was like come around, man, after work, like we'll chill. We're sat, um, just talking about, like you know, experiencing, you know, trials, tribulations, especially when you're trying to be on a path with god and everything. And we're both like lay on top of the covers, chilling, watching a movie. Um, we're just like snoozing. And he has a little tea light next to his bed lit. Yeah, I was like snoozing, sno, snoozing away. Wake up to him shouting, screaming.
Speaker 1The room was full of black smoke. Yeah, the thing had the candle, the tea light. Yeah, had like spilled over, gone onto the PlayStation controller, set a light to that, which then set a light to the bedside table and I was like completely off my face and fumes. For like ages We'd literally been like sleeping in it and the only thing that didn't burn on the bedside table was his Bible. The only thing that didn't catch a light on the bedside was the Bible and I, just I just had this direct knowing in that moment that I was under spiritual attack.
Speaker 1And it's like I felt like that the fire itself was another form of spiritual attack and I was just like went on some hardcore like praying and just trying to fast and just get strengthened up, armor up. Do you know what I'm saying? But that's a moment for me where I was like like I still can relive it to this day and like the feeling inside me over because weird stuff happens anyway, but it's that feeling, like you say, like I got that discernment inside me that I just knew that was like attack that was a confirmation, yeah yeah, 100 that's crazy, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 2I think the only thing I've I've felt like and this is like a while back like when you're sleeping they say it's sleep apnea or something like that.
Speaker 2Um, yeah, yeah no, I don't believe in that man because, um, I think I was going through some shit. Oh, like I was going through some shit, I was going through some real stuff and my mind was all over the place. And then I woke up and I just couldn't move at all. So I can't remember what it's called, but I just said in the name of Jesus, Isn't it?
Speaker 1sleep paralysis, sleep paralysis. Oh, I still think I've done that.
Speaker 2Yeah, so I said that three times and I was good. And then since then I've just been consistent with like getting my mindset right in the morning, at night, and I've been all right ever since. Like God will.
Speaker 1It's crazy that you say that I can literally testify the same thing. I've had sleep paralysis since I was a child, something I've always battled with literally my whole life. It was only the beginning of this year that I started using Jesus's name, when I did a pray before I went to. I prayed for I went to sleep in jesus's name because me and my son were both having bad dreams and I was experiencing a lot of sleep paralysis. Since that day in january, I've not had sleep paralysis once. I was getting it on a weekly basis my whole life. I've not had it since january from the very first time I spoke in jesus's name.
Speaker 1That was confirmation for me. That's all. That's. The only thing that's ever made me feel safe in my own brain is by speaking that name.
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Speaker 2So I don't know, man, I still don't believe in the actual like structure of Christianity and stuff like that no, I agree. I've said that before as well like I used to go to church when I was young and stuff. Yeah, I think, yeah, I do as well.
Speaker 1Yeah, you, say you were born into Christianity, what do you? Yeah, like it was. It was one of those things where, like it was, I didn't know where I was going. I just knew I had to go every Sunday, yeah kind of thing. And then when I did know, I feel like I don't know.
Speaker 1I feel like with Christianity it's just it's a moral code, like I don't follow everything in it, but I feel like it's a way of just telling people what's right and what's wrong, like you don't have to follow it. If you don't want to, I suppose it's up to you. But I just see it as like a moral compass. So obviously you don't be mean to people, you don't kill people, kind of thing, you're good to thy neighbor, etc. Like um, and I just keep it as like a moral compass. I don't feel like especially when I was probably younger I probably followed it a lot more, but more now it's like I go when, it's like when I'm with family or special holidays and stuff, but and then I obviously I'm thankful for the life that I have and I I am thankful to God, um, but I don't feel like it's something where, oh my gosh, I'm on fire, out of line. God's gonna spite you down I agree yeah type thing.
Speaker 1So I keep it more as like a moral code than anything else what made you switch up this?
Speaker 2what made you go from like constantly going and then?
Speaker 1I think it's just I grew up like I was, like I said before, I was going on every sunday because I was going with family and then I'd go with my grandparents, et cetera, um, and then as you get older, you go to university. You don't really go that much kind of thing. And, um, there I was offered to go to like a religious grouping uni, but it was a bit of a weird one actually. Um, I have like I went to like a predominantly white university in um, twickenham and um, and there was like the black and the mixed race people like minority and there was a group that did like church, like these black students did church and stuff, and like a Bible group. And they asked me if I wanted to come, but I don't know. They just it felt like they were being too pushy.
Speaker 2A bit cultish.
Speaker 1Yeah, a little bit. I hear it though, because I always say, like I'm not religious, I follow jesus, like I have a relationship with, like with god, and I keep him in my heart. But I wouldn't class myself as I don't agree with um, the way that religion is led to control like across the world. You know I'm saying, and a lot of evil is infiltrated in most of these churches. The facts literally speak for themselves. For me, my relationship with god is is a personal one, yeah, yeah, yeah and I think that's what it should be.
Speaker 1That's why I said the moral code something that just makes you feel comfort kind of thing, um, and helps you guide you like through day to day yeah, no, facts, facts, I think.
Speaker 2Um, greed of the world changes everything. Oh, man, because, like you see, in america, like they have, like they call it mecca, mecca, mecca, um, oh, what do you call mecca? What mecca, congregations and stuff like that, so like when they're a church, is like over a thousand people, in terms of their their common with the words today, but the constituents?
Speaker 1Oh yeah.
Speaker 2They're called a Mecca churches and stuff like that. It's like why do you need to have a new brand name for a church, bro? Just just call it a church. A church is a church.
Speaker 2People go, whether it's a thousand people, whether it's 10 people, it's more like a popularity contest exactly and, like you, you see the typical stories of um, obviously the, the preachers and the pastors, yeah, yeah, getting bucket loads of money because they get deals and endorsements, and obviously the congregation gives them money and all that kind of stuff. I'm not saying it happens here to that, to that degree, but you see that and you see it slipping into here as well, and there's always a lot of judgment in terms of in the church as well, and I think they need to step away from being so judgmental and saying, oh, this person has to be on this path in order to for this app, and like, I understand that that itself is a sin yeah, yeah, exactly, just holding the judgment like this is it?
Speaker 2like everyone knows, there's a, there's a lie that you just do not cross. But yeah, for them to lie that you just do not cross, but yeah for them to say that you can't do this and you can't do it and you have to use the name of jesus, because I know better, because I've got more spiritual awareness, awareness and empowerment I don't think you can do that, like I don't think you can have that type of power over someone.
Speaker 2You can give them guidance. You can say this is this the path that I believe is better for you. However, you have to choose yours. I think that's a better way of doing it. Not even, not even in the bible. You don't see jesus saying look, you have to do this. Is you have a file on my way or you don't?
Speaker 1that's it in jesus has sat with, with all the people that everyone be shaming, everyone's shaming today, and all that type of stuff like and I've had, I had some comments like, um, when I was on this podcast with lily phillips, yeah um, because, obviously, of my song that released and they were like, oh yeah, but you didn't like call her out, like you didn't like go in on it, and I'm like, yeah, because who am I?
Speaker 1like I couldn't only like plant seeds, but you're still an another human being, like I'm never gonna come in, like verbally attack somebody because I don't agree with the way you live. Because if jesus was here right now, like I said when she was here, he sat with you planning season just trying to pour a bit of love.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's like, that's it what it is is because everyone wants a viral moment.
Speaker 1Yeah honestly, everyone wants a viral moment and I feel like we lose touch of any realness online because everybody is seeking that little pop off, that, yeah, that that little moment online, and I think that it's better to slowly build up your support, especially if you're trying to do something like as a content creator, as a musician, like like myself. You know I've had moments where stuff has like popped off a bit, but not to the point where it could like take my career off overnight or whatever, but I've enjoyed the gradual process of having more people support you, whereas I feel like we're just losing touch with with the way that everything goes online at the moment. Oh, 100 people will sell their soul for a viral moment.
Speaker 2God, yeah, in a second for someone who like organizes content and like has that strategy. Do you think a community base is way better than actual? Like the numbers and things about nature?
Speaker 1yeah, 100, because it's one of those things, yeah, like, even if you relate it to music. Yeah, do you want to be like the longevity or do you want to be a one hit wonder? Okay, so a viral moment, don't get me wrong. It's good. It's good for a, but how many people, how many of those people are actually loyal? How many are going to stay?
Speaker 2with you.
Speaker 1How many, yeah, loyal. How many are going to stay with you? How many people are going to like your next five posts? No, they're going to like that post because everybody liked it. I remember I remember watching someone's TikTok a couple of weeks ago and she literally said, um, that like why is TikTok only funny when loads of people have liked it? Like she literally was watching this TikTok. She found it really funny and then, as soon as she saw it only had like maybe 200 likes on it, rather than I don't know 5k likes or whatever. She instantly stopped laughing and I was just like the fact that she posted it as well. I was a bit like you're a bit weird to do that, but it was also like but it's true, that's how people think, it is 100% true. But what's crazy is, without all the people liking it, 200 likes you'd never get the viral post anyway.
Speaker 1And so it's just like such a backwards way of thinking.
Speaker 2Is that clear? No, 100%.
Speaker 1But yeah, with social media, it, when people actually do want to do social media, depending on what route you're trying to take. We're just trying to be an influencer. Best advice is just to to do all the trends like you know what's trending at the moment, um, and, if anything, try and invent your own trend. If you make your own trend, then obviously that will build up your following as well, because you were the initial one. Um, but if you're trying to do like holistic, like like nature or like travel or any of that stuff, just keep it genuine. Like, just do it because you love doing it. Like, don't do it because you're trying to become viral or whatever. Like because as soon as you, if any social media or any way, if you stop, you stop enjoying it, and then why are you doing it?
Speaker 1I always say authenticity is the strongest frequency, ever more stronger than than love, and you've just got to be yourself. You've got to be the brands like um, as much as you can like, join in and trends, like I said, making your own like, just doing your own thing, being you standing on on your ground, standing your power is is going to bring you your tribe anyway, because when you're. I feel like, if you're trying to live up to something online like an aesthetic, if it's not truly who you are, if you're not representing you, you will never be able to uphold it, you'll never be able to to keep that facts, that going because it's not you and, yeah, at some point the mask is going to fall off because you're not, you're not happy. You've got to be really doing you and that that's when. That's when the success comes as well, because you're in your purpose.
Speaker 2Then no thanks.
Speaker 1I feel like how do you know when you're in your purpose?
Speaker 2you know, man, you have that feeling innit like obviously like being like doing all this, all this stuff. Sometimes it's a drag, it's like oh, it's long, blah, blah, blah, but when you, when you know you're in your, in your, you're in your love I mean because, like, there's nothing worse than watching.
Speaker 2You don't want to be somewhere, you don't want to do something, um, yeah, but when you're in your purpose and you're actually doing it for you and it's yours, oh, you don't care. Yeah, you're. You're literally turning around. It's 5 am, you know, do you know? I've got another hour in me, but it's the next thing.
Speaker 1You know, it's 5 pm, it's so true in my eyes, I'm bullshit already living the dream because I I mean I'm 26 I've had over 40 um different jobs since I was what like 14 that's crazy many, most of them after I was 16, I job hopped all the time. Listen, I would get up on lunch break and just not fucking come back. I was like sometimes I got up like mid, mid training, mid shift, I'd be like this cut the tape.
Speaker 1I'm gone like I'm not doing this other times. I'll not come back the next day, like one time I was on the bus to work, stopped at the stop for work and I thought fuck this shit, god I just carried on nothing served me.
Speaker 1I'd get there and I'd literally feel like I was selling myself, like just sat there watching the clock, like nothing is fulfilling me. And then when, after I had my son, I started doing music, even though, like financially, there's been so many struggles, mentally, everything you know there's there's been so many, so many things that I face it's sort of like I know that I'm in my purpose because it happens and it it's happening, for, even if it's slowly, like it, I feel like when you know what you want to do and you constantly you're consistent with it, how, how can you fail?
Speaker 2and this is, this is this is one of the things in it like I've got to appreciate and I've got to like, accommodate you and give you your flowers whilst you're here, like you're doing your thing, and it's, it's nice to see you, even through your struggles, still have a smile on your face for what you do, like the little conversations that we have on and off. I can see, I can see the, the pep in your step of it. You get what I'm saying. It's just like just keep doing your doing, man, even if you go through those struggles and, to be fair, you're not too far from your uh, your plaque in it.
Speaker 1So yeah, not too far from the 100k plaque, so close so yeah, man, keep on doing your thing, man. Yeah, 100%. Something for us ladies is that we are what? Basically members of the FBI when it comes to finding shit out. Yeah, would you agree 100%? I know that growing up, if anyone needed anyone found by a guy, my friends would ask me straight away, straight away, send a screenshot. I'll find them. I'll find them.
Speaker 1Even when I did when I was early on rap battling days and I had some guys and I'd find out everything about their mom and their dad and the names. And I even said once, like your mom and dad got married in black and red devil outfits. And he's like how did you know that? And I was thinking, mate, I saw the whole collection on your mom's.
Speaker 2Facebook. What do you mean?
Speaker 1Like why do you think that we're like that? First we've got trust issues.
Speaker 2But why, why? Why does every girl have trust issues? Every woman have trust issues?
Speaker 1Why does every man lie? Why the hell am I talking? Why does every man lie?
Speaker 2Not every man lies and sometimes I feel like no, no, no.
Speaker 1I feel like every man does lie, just like I feel like there's different reasons for the lie. Yeah, of course, sometimes they lie to protect us, sometimes they lie to not get caught, sometimes they lie because they think they're protecting us, but really they just don't want to get caught.
Speaker 2All of the above is correct. Yeah, and I think it first. It is that way because of the responses we get, sometimes the emotional responses and sometimes you, like, can't handle the truth. Man, honestly, do you get what I'm saying? Like sometimes, yeah, oh, does this dress look good? Nah, you look horrible.
Speaker 1But I'm not going to say that to you no, you have to tell me like, tell me no because if I tell you, nah, they're going to pick another dress and it's going to be even worse. Yeah, but it's just the way that you deliver it.
Speaker 2Yeah, don't say it's horrible. No, hold on.
Speaker 1You don't have to say it's horrible. You can just be like do you know what? It's all right, but I love this dress on you.
Speaker 2Yeah, pick the dress.
Speaker 1Then she's in an outfit. That then she's the issue. I would read between the lines and listen yeah, but I do hear it.
Speaker 2There you go and then all that's all, that's all well and good, having that soft little touch, the soft skills to have that conversation, but it doesn't lead to anything great. So then we have to lie Cause one I don't really care, like I can't care, unless you're the, unless you're the controlling type or you've got some, some issues I won't say issues, sorry, but you know, that's my opinion um, we don't care about that when they think them things. But when you bring up that little thing and then we say, yeah, it's fine, you say you're lying to me. Well then, where do we go from there?
Speaker 1I think we're just traumatized women talking to yeah, yeah I get it because, like I, I have been that before and that is like off the bat of me being traumatized. Not I'm saying so this, so this is like unhealed women and we're just all guys, we're just all fucked up, we're all unhealed.
Speaker 2Basically so why is everyone just like? The dating scene right now is just a mess bro oh the day.
Speaker 1Every time he's like oh, why are you single every week?
Speaker 2because yeah, because everyone's trash. I'm not saying like them in the bin, like men and women are just trash in general, like the actual, like it's so difficult to yeah, but don't you feel that's because everyone's so accessible facts, like before?
Speaker 1it was to get hold of someone. Like you had to like wait till your mum was off the landline or something, or I don't know. Like, like something, something it weren't so easy, or you had to wait till they got home to call them or whatever kind of thing. Now it's like you could literally they could literally be at work and you can just whatsapp them, instagram, message them, snap them, yeah, and some other bitch could be doing the same thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah you're just kidding also I feel like it dies out too quickly the constant. I feel like you start talking to someone and you're expected to talk non-stop, then forever if it's a slow burner. If it's a slow burner, you'll definitely like survive longer. If you're constantly talking, talking at the beginning you run out of things to say I don't know when people like in the past and stuff, when I've had dates, they want to talk about everything and I'm like, well, when we get to the date I'm not going to have anything to say yeah, this is true.
Speaker 2This is true. I don't know, because I can talk forever sometimes depending on how I feel. But yeah, accessibility is definitely a key thing. When someone's very accessible all the time, you don't have that part of abstinence. Everyone knows, when you fast, when you abstain, sometimes you get a greater connection, sometimes you lose connections. But if it's true it's and it's for you, you're gonna look. You're not that gonna have it we've got to understand.
Speaker 1Yeah, like I know, everyone says about the new world that we live in and stuff, and everyone talks about polyamorous relationships and open relationships. You've got to understand when we're in a world where they constantly talk about these things and they're trying to enforce them and even though they're saying that it's not for everyone, fair enough. But if you're constantly putting on the TV, people are talking about it, they're accepting it. In other TV shows it's going to happen. What about Virgin Island? Have you seen that one?
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1They've got like a group of virgins that are going to an island. There are like a few I can't remember how many, but like a few women that are like teaching. I thought they were going to go and lose virginity to each other like the virgin. Yeah, no, they go into the people that are running it and let them then, like, touch them and slowly lose their virginity to these two people. It's very cultish very weird and it's literally I'm like what is it on e4 or something?
Speaker 2of course it's on e4 yeah, so of course it's on e4.
Speaker 1I can't get behind this shit, but this is what I'm saying. But don't you feel like, as well, like the people in open relationships and stuff like that? All that, all for you. If that's what you're up to, whatever you want to do, it's fine. But I feel like the people that are in those relationships are one guys and girls that don't really want to be in that committed relationship anyway, or two, um, the guy has said that he wants to be with someone and the girl just wants to make him happy because she doesn't want to lose him, or vice versa, like the opposite around. It's like there's obviously that small minority that actually want to do it. But technically, aren't you just a swinger like, wouldn't it be easier just to be a swinger rather than in a polyamorous relationship, kind of thing? Um, but again, it's like when they say polyamorous, it's more acceptable. They say swinger, it's like oh yeah, I feel like all these to sex worker, this, that, the other. I feel like they're all just like my nice modernized terms for 2025, more time, it's swingers and prostitutes 100, like, if a girl is so easy and accessible.
Speaker 1And then I have a night where I'm just like I don't know, I'm man. I've been working all day. My man can literally just go out and really like go to the club and get someone if he really wanted to. I know guys always say women have sex with who they want and men have sex with whoever they can. Fair enough, maybe five years ago or 10 years ago, but it's not the case anymore. There will always be someone for everyone.
Speaker 1It just depends on how you're trying to lower your standards. Okay, whether it's the girl at the end of the night or whatever. Or maybe get lucky and you're a good looking guy and you get a girl whatever at the beginning of the night. The same for girls. Again, they can be a guy that they see attractive, but maybe they're in a relationship or maybe they're not available, maybe they don't find them attractive themselves, but they will still 100%. I feel like I could go out on any night and get with someone if I really wanted to. That's because you're a beautiful woman as well. Thank you, I appreciate that. No, but what I'm saying is that if I lower my standard like say, whatever, if you lower your standards enough, you could get with someone if you really wanted to.
Speaker 1For guys, I don't know man you don't think there could be like even if it's just a cheeky feel I know a couple guys that can't do it nah, I do. I do know some, because I do know some guys that are like 30 and a virgin, still like, not even out of it's rough man.
Speaker 2They ain't got no gaming yeah, but they could pay for it. Yeah, of course they can.
Speaker 1Yeah, they can't naturally go and get laid and you know why as well? Yeah, because I like it no, but what I'm saying as well, with that, though it's normalized, that people pay for it, though it's getting more normalized, so before guys paying for it was like, oh my gosh, I I still ask yeah from from being like younger when I first started dating, so now I always would ask her have you ever? From being like younger when I first started dating to now, I always would ask her have you ever?
Speaker 2paid for sex?
Speaker 1Yeah, because to me that puts you in a different category of men. 100% Like you've paid for sex when you can. You're good looking anyway, so you can obviously get it. So it's a power thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, do you know what? No, no, no, I'll stop you with that. So if a guy's good looking and he pays for sex, do you know what he's doing?
Speaker 1he's missing all of the bullshit that you get with dating and he's just going straight to the transaction.
Speaker 2He's it's a transactional because he's probably one not healed enough to to be with a woman or two. Doesn't want to have that in like that the, yeah, the conversation, the conversation, the, the actual commitment to a woman. He just wants to have that thing that he knows he can get from that person and it's over with and he can carry on with his business but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1The fact that it's more normalized now, that guys can pay for it, it's like, yeah, whatever kind of thing. Doesn't that even make it even worse now?
Speaker 2but prostitution has been there for how long? So it tells you that it's always been there.
Speaker 1It's always going to be there it's always been there 100, but it used to be a bit of a no-no. It used to be like taboo, just like yeah, just like girls really putting themselves out there, and whatever used to be taboo it's now. It's not like we're seeing like video vixens. We're seeing girls shaking nash, like we're seeing um, obviously people talk about it in music. Guys degrade women in music all the time, about to say do you think music has an effect on it?
Speaker 1100, let's kick it. Let's take it back. Let's take it back to early 2000s r&b yeah, you should let me love you. You know I'm saying knock you down, talk. Everyone's about love. It's all these love songs. You don't hear no love songs shouting like that. No more, it's just like very rare very rare like all the city girls. If you want to hear love songs, yeah. You should listen to country music, yeah I like country music.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, country music gang, you know they, I love it, I literally obsessed.
Speaker 1They love talk about love, heartbreak all the time. Yeah, um, but yeah, no, rap music is trash. I'm not saying it's trash, but I'm saying they trash women.
Speaker 2I know what you're saying like the message.
Speaker 1Yeah, but women as well. Like look at all of your, your main women of today's world Cardi B, meg Thee Stallion, sexy Red City Girls all about sex, yeah all about? I mean, men aren't at nothing. Sex like I mean like I was in a relationship and you talked about getting rid of a man every other day oh yeah, 100% like you're in a healthy, stable relationship that you say you love and you want to be with forever.
Bottle Girls, Club Culture, and Nightlife
Speaker 1But you're still promoting like, promote, promote that you want to be your wife and you want to be together forever in your song. I might listen to your music, though facts no, it's true when it's just constantly in a bag. I'm so bored of it like I want to feel in love. When I listen, I want to feel something, and all the music these days they don't stir nothing up in my chest but disgust.
Speaker 2But why is that?
Speaker 1because it's soulless. There's nothing behind it sex sells man oh, why is it I?
Speaker 2thought you meant why do I feel nothing? Sex sells, sex sells, that's it. What are you saying? Why? Because it doesn't give you anything. Yeah 100%.
Speaker 1What did I say? Sex, drugs and food.
Speaker 2Yeah. Always sell, that's the thing isn't it?
Speaker 1Always sell 100%.
Speaker 2But I think that's what people need to get away from. If you just strip it all back and just actually listen to music in its rawest form, it's supposed to touch you in a way where you lose yourself, because, at the end of the day, music touches you in ways that no other, nothing else can such a personal because of the one because of the, the way that music is constructed, the waves and all that kind of stuff yeah, frequency frequencies, massive frequencies.
Speaker 2It hits you differently. So I always say you gotta be careful what music you listen to, because it goes to the back of your head, for example drill, drill music.
Speaker 1The frequency of drill music is literally shown to kill your brain cells, damage and kill your brain cells.
Speaker 1You can get certain frequencies that will heal your brain cells and stuff like that. So it is important. So what does country music do? Because I've been listening to a lot of that recently. You can't, bro, oh okay, good. I'm to a lot of that recently. Your car, bro, oh, okay, good.
Speaker 1I'm in a very loving mood. I'm very out of the loop with music these days. Like I used to love listening to new releases and that now I don't. It's like I never really I don't listen to radio. I don't be checking out new releases only if I it catches my attention, like online. Otherwise, I listen to the songs that I find that make me feel good. Yeah, it does pollute your mind, like when I gone through a phase of just listening to certain stuff. It it you change as a person when you're just listening to a certain type of music. No, but it's like if you just go to a nightclub, though, like you see girls like when they go, when they just like listen to day to day music or whatever, and then they go to a bit stiff and then get a couple tequilas down. Her put some cardi b or sexy red on and she's completely different. Yeah, I'm like where the devil come out of you. I actually think that clubs, okay, give me hell vibes like it's oh 100.
Speaker 2They're demonized yeah how's that like? Just working in the clubs as well. So it's just crazy, man, how you just see people just change oh, I used to.
Speaker 1I used to run, um, I used to like run bottle girls, yeah, so now I just sourced them, but I used to actually run them and stuff like that. And and I used to like um, for this one club, um, what was like a club lounge, and I'd done all the tables I I can manage the tables and stuff and I was stone cold, sober and it literally opens your eyes to a completely different world. And the way that people used to always say to me like smile, what's wrong with you or try and argue with you because you're not on the same vibe as them, and I'm just like I don't, actually like I actually had to stop working there because I started to hate people.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh yeah, it's yeah I was like there's literally no, there's no hope for these people. They're all trash, like every man and woman in here is trash especially bottle girls as well.
Speaker 2They get it the worst man oh they do.
Speaker 1They get terrorized saying like bottle girls are trash, because she's like trash and she's like especially vulgar.
Speaker 1Oh no, they're terrorized but the plus side is you can get good money doing violin to a certain yeah, to a certain extent depends on where you work, kind of thing, but then how many hours you do. But yeah, like you can, you can get a bit of money, but you just get harassed. Though, like you will, let you see bottle girl outfits. I don't know if you've seen them recently, but they're like leotards or two pieces, like you could be wearing a bikini no, no, I'm dead ass like they're literally not next to nothing yeah, and then a guy just grab bum grab like one girl that I know she got slipped a finger.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. While she's walking she's got bottles, so she can't obviously protect herself. She's got bottles there, so that's fucking outrageous. But then when she turns around she don't know who it was.
Speaker 2The place is packed no one's gonna own up to that that is terrifying, but I believe, it like.
Speaker 1The last time I like went out I was like to the dance at the club, whatever it was. I'm pretty sure it was like Valiant's, like after party show, that like was it the Sunflower Lounge or something okay, yeah, I don't I don't really know places like that. I would just ask if I want to come. And I went and I'll tell you I was there for about 27 minutes um 27 minutes is very precise. I just mean, like I was there, I was in and out, like I went.
Speaker 1I left very quickly, like because within the first I wasn't even dancing yet. I was stone cold, sober like I. I wasn't really going there to like, I was just there because the girls I was out with I had. That's where the night took us.
Speaker 1Yeah, and like I wasn't even dancing, I was actually stood holding a jacket and my ass got squeezed three times in the street for like 10 minutes and every time I turn around I can't see who it was and I just thought like, like I actually just I'm not even dancing, like I'm not, like there are people that are dancing that you can probably go like wind up against whatever, like I'm just stood on the outskirt not doing nothing. I'm still getting touched up. I was like, nah, I went home.
Speaker 2I literally left yeah, took one of the other girls. You know I do feel sorry for for women, man, I feel sorry for for my own kin as well, because it's hard out there like I don't know why I'm scaring people the amount of like things that are actually I gotta go home by myself tonight, like either that, nah as long as they're getting you home, they're getting in. Do you know what?
Speaker 2I mean it's just scary and it's just like the actual climate that we're living in now, man, because it's like it's a bubbling, bubbling yeah, just like something.
Speaker 1Something major is going to happen in our lifetime yeah, something it always does it already has several times we're due a war.
Speaker 2I think the only reason why we haven't had one is because of literally, um, I think this world will just go into a nuclear radioactive implode and that's it do you watch the news?
Speaker 1yeah, I do. I don't watch the main.
Speaker 2I don't watch the news.
Speaker 1I do because I'll actually like dabble in stocks and trades and oh, okay, yeah that has a big influence on what I do and like, if I literally my mom always gets on to me because she says I don't watch the news and she's like if something nuclear happened. You would not. And I was just like no, but it's not even that, like I just, I just feel like if anything happens, like if a war actually happens, I have no power over it. So I was like, why do I watch it? To depress myself? And then, and then it's like, it's like a blissful ignorance, that's what it is Well our ancestors.
Speaker 1Anything else we're no about. We're bearing the weight of the world.
Speaker 2I would say you should 100% keep an eye on your own local news just so you can know your local news.
Speaker 1I just get on my news updates from my dad. He watches all like all the ones that aren't like mainstream. I don't even know what they're called or whatever. I can't even remember everything on Rumble, basically my everything on rumble basically yeah, my dad is so into politics and american politics, so yeah he just feeds me the importance and yeah, and I.
Speaker 2I don't always remember it, but I try I would say like the key things that I've seen this week.
Speaker 1Anyway, kids can vote now from 16 up oh crazy, I think that's a show you think it's a bit weird, but I think I I wouldn't be angry if they push the vote to 21.
Speaker 2No, because if you're going to attack someone at 16, because is it taxable at 16? I can't remember If they're going to make them go to war, they'll be 16.
Speaker 1That's what it is. If they go to war they could be 16. They're saying they're going to make they might bring that rule back.
Speaker 2You know, like well we'll bring the rule here where you know, every male and female has to serve. From 16 to 18.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, but eyesight can't wear glasses.
Speaker 2Oh, you wear glasses. I did not even know that.
Speaker 1It's got blue eyes Because I never wear them.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Blue eyes is apparently like the weakest eye colour oh really Sensitive. And brown eyes are the yeah, I shouldn't say weakest, sorry.
Speaker 2They're the issue. You don't say it.
Speaker 1Sensitive Brown is the strongest oh sure. That's why when, when, like when I go out into the sun, I'm like this Okay, makes sense.
Speaker 2Yeah, I thought it was because you're ginger bro.
Speaker 1I dyed my hair. I know, yeah, you say this all the time. I got the gene, though my dad's ginger Okay Technically.
Speaker 2That's mad. But but yeah, man, I definitely like don't listen to the news all the time, but you have the war stuff. It is real, man, it's real.
Speaker 1I don't dispute that it is a real. I'm just saying, like, why depress myself with what's happening Because I'm not going to be able to control anything Like what I say isn't going to make a difference. Obviously I don't want there to be a war yeah. A hundred percent not of war. Yeah, 100 not. But if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen, whether I like it or not.
Speaker 2You're gonna have very little control about what what happens to to people in their own countries. But what I would say is you can. You can solidify yourself a little bit I just think, life's one survival skills man massive like video game.
Speaker 1We chose to come here at this time, so whatever's gonna happen, just treat just just treat it like yeah well, I chose to come here, so let's see. Let's see what happens, like, like it's fun because yeah, yeah, yeah like what else are you supposed to do?
Speaker 2live in, fear nothing, it's just I was having this conversation as well, where um someone said do you think we're actually living in the matrix?
Speaker 1and like blue pill, red pill like why not?
Speaker 2like I don't smoke anymore, so I can't even get into that conversation. And like two like if you, if you, go too deep into that rabbit hole, it's just, it's just gonna fall at your brain oh, conspiracy theorists, like they love it, don't they?
Speaker 1yeah, that's me, that's you, that's me right there, carry on, carry on.
Speaker 2We'll have a conversation after this we'll talk later.
Speaker 1I love researching and listening to all it comes to.
Speaker 2No, it's cool man, it's good, it's good, but I'm gonna dive deep into a little bit more about yourself then. So, um, currently in a relationship now. Yeah, how's that going for you, man?
Speaker 1yeah, it's, it's going all right. No, it's going well um. What's the dynamics like? What do you mean?
Speaker 2dynamics of the relationship.
Speaker 1So yeah, it's good, it's going well, like we're together. Um, we had a few bumps in the road at the beginning, stuff, but again, I just think they're like teething problems. Is he like more masculine? Does he make you feel like it's your feminine energy?
Speaker 1oh yeah, he's very protective yeah, he's very protective, um, he's one we have that whole okay. So in our relationship dynamic is when we're in the house, obviously I look after him. I'm out the house, he looks after me. Oh, I love that, yeah. So when we're out of the house, like if I wanted a drink, like even if it was like a I don't know like a sparkling water at the corner shop or something, he'd get it for me. Um, or like food or anything like that, he would get it. Um, if we go to an event, he'll buy the things like that In the house. He can literally stay at my house for the whole day and I'll get him breakfast, lunch and dinner, like I always, when he does come to mine, I always get his like his little favourite sweets and stuff, some of that personal touch.
Speaker 1What did I say? What was I saying last week? When women like men, when they because they love you and they want to serve you and they want to do all them nice things for you, but when you're not in that energy.
Speaker 2And you had it Also, if you have.
Speaker 1I feel like if you have respect for your man, you would do that Like if you don't have respect for them, you don't care about them, and like respect for me is like a big thing, like when we talk.
Speaker 1Yeah, like I feel like his wife would have just lost full respect for him. That's why she takes her name and if she, if you lose respect for your man, you don't rate him. Yeah, and it's hard to come back from from losing respect. It's almost like it's the embarrassment, like I can't do it like if something happened, like per se they cheated or whatever, and it's something that's very low-key. It was something. It was just a mistake. There's a difference between a fuck up and a pattern.
Speaker 1Yeah, I feel like everyone should kind of have one chance and I need to know. But I need to know what happened. I need to know the reasons behind transparency. Yeah, I need, if I ask you straight out of, you've been caught out. Tell me what's what. Don't let it fester, and then I find out more later. Just tell me all now and then't let it fester, and then I find out more later. Just tell me all now and then I can accept the situation and decide whether I want to carry on or not.
Speaker 1And this is why, when people say honesty is the best policy, it always is. Yeah, so in relationships, honesty is always best policy, not saying everyone has to cheat in their relationship for it to go the further mile. But I'm saying, if you're not feeling the relationship, let me know, because I want to know if I can fix this. Yeah, if you're not, if you don't want um, or if I'm doing something that's you don't like, I don't, I don't know what it could be. It could be, um, I'm hanging out with certain people that are a bit out there, like you know them type of girls or whatever. It makes you feel uncomfortable. Yeah, let me know because I might be able to do something that reassures you. Or it could be someone that I'm hanging out with. It was um, or it could be like the job I do, or whatever.
Speaker 1I'm not saying change for your man, evil women shouldn't. A woman shouldn't change for their man. And imagine change for a woman. But if you want it to go the longevity then you do adapt yourself and then it could be reassurance. It could be like emotional support. It doesn't always have to be physically changing what you're doing, but again, it has to be an open book. Yeah, I need to know we're on the same page. If you are not feeling this relationship and you want to go and see other people, let me know so I can have the option to do that too.
Speaker 2Honest, yeah, okay and there's a difference between, like adapting and changing, changing yourself. 100, because when you're single, you're by yourself. When you're together, you're combining two people until one changes happen, but it's not naturally. You're gonna change. You put water and oil together. They're gonna emulsify and they're still gonna be be oil and water, but they become one, isn't it? You're in one cup. See it as that. You put fucking fruit juice and water together and things. You still fruit juice and you still water, but you combine and you taste nice.
Speaker 2You just have to know how to adapt together and do that. And I think it was nice, it was refreshing you saying like he, he, he, like he, he, he focused on the truth and like he knows how to make sure to keep you in your feminine.
Speaker 1Yeah, a hundred percent. He, like I said one thing about him he's a good communicator and I need that. I I've already expressed to him, like my past traumas and stuff. I don't have a lot, but the ones I do have, I express them early on because I need him to have that understanding of me and because it's never been a problem because he knows how to talk to me. Men should know how to talk to their women okay like.
Speaker 1But just like how we were saying before, like about the whole dress situation. If you just say to her like oh, I don't really like that, um, that dress. I love you in that dress, or whatever, there's a way to talk to you. But there's some women just need it straight up, say I hate that dress, wear that one kind of thing. It depends on who you're dealing with yeah, that's what it is.
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Speaker 2It's a learning experience. 100. Some, some, some females definitely need to heal before they get into oh, 100.
Speaker 1Yeah, a lot of women can't be on their own. You see them jump relationship to relationship.
Speaker 2I don't want. Some men are like that too, yeah yeah, yeah, it goes both ways. I'm definitely like that, like I haven't I haven't been single for a time.
Speaker 1I was single for four years until I got into this relationship that's good.
Speaker 2I've been single for a while.
Speaker 1I've done periods of being single. For a while I haven't been single but I just didn't. I just looked at a man like uh, like all of them I just didn't like her. I mean, I find it so hard for someone to even catch my attention these days. I've been a lot of like male dominated spaces and I'm just so used to like it's just hard to. I meet a lot of people. I know that might sound bad, but my brain is not searching, or does it? I naturally switch off.
Speaker 1So I'm not like in search mode. You know what I'm saying. I'm just working, just doing my thing.
Speaker 2It's definitely hard for someone to oh yeah, this one crept up like crept up out of the blue. So what made them different?
Speaker 1yeah, shed some light, give me hope, girl. Come on, you know what? Yeah, it was actually. It was actually a weird. This is when I talk about fate. Yeah, okay, so, okay. So I wouldn't call myself a model type thing. I've done clothing brands a couple of times and stuff like that.
Speaker 2I have to go look at your Instagram. Yeah, we were stalking you.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, no but for music videos and stuff. I think I've only been in four and they're like friends. So it's like a thing where they just call me up and be like Shanky, come and do this for me. I'm likeanky, you come and do this for me. I'm like, okay, cool, yeah, like, if I'm free I'll do it. So my friend Trix messaged me um in the middle of the night and I was asleep. So I saw the message in the morning, um asking me if I could be in his music video, and then I was just like I didn't really want to do it. But I was already in London, kind of thing, um, and I lived just outside in London because I went out for my friend's birthday the night before and he said all you need is a pair of leggings and a red top you sound like a daggum type of oh no, no, no, I'm not daggum, okay, yeah, so I was just like I have like so mixture of friends with different accents, that's probably what it is.
Speaker 1But yeah, no so. And what I had on me was a red top and um, um, like they were like flared leggings, and I basically sent it to him and I was like, are these okay? And he was like, yeah, so he's gonna pay me 150 pound just to stand and look pretty in a music video and I'm just like you know what I spent about 50 pound last night.
Speaker 1I could do with that 150 pound yeah so I was like, yeah, cool, so it was in a couple hours. So I literally just got ready at my friend's house, had all my makeup obviously there because I stayed the night and stuff. And then I went straight to the shoot and, um, I'm just there like I was like sitting in the car waiting for the shoot to start. They were doing their bits, like he was doing this music video with another girl or whatever. She was doing her rapping part, he was doing his part and then other people start coming in. Anyway, he was like shine, it's ready for you. So I'm just like there like talking to a couple people. Next minute, this six foot four beautiful man comes out of nowhere, like I didn't even see him come. I don't know. I don't know when he got there, but he got there and I was like, okay, got some tall people.
Speaker 1I'm a tall girl myself so I'm quite so yeah, so to find a tall guy it's very hard and it literally I just saw and and the thing is as well. I knew that I kind of liked him because I was trying to make the cringiest jokes, like he had one glove off and I was like who are you, michael Jackson? And you know, you just say something. You're like why did I say that? Yeah, no, I don't. Yeah, it was like, yeah, it was just, it was just pretty cringe or whatever. But we were just friends, like at first. We were just literally just friendly and chit chat. He made me feel he had a presence about him already, but he was shy, but not shy, if you know what I mean I know, you mean yeah, I know you get it.
Speaker 1It's like a bit of 50, 50, no, I don't know what you mean he was. He was a shy character but obviously he knew a lot of people there so he had a bit of a presence about himself.
Speaker 2He's not shy more reserved.
Speaker 1No, he was reserved yeah, yeah, okay, reserved yeah is he quite a stocky as well um, yeah, yeah, listen, yeah, I would just like, not like well I'm wedge. No, While we're on, where a lot of people are listening tall girls were made for tall men. Yeah, oh, yeah. So what I? When I see like five foot two girls and they're like Back off, and they're like, oh, I love men over six foot.
Speaker 2I'm like why?
Speaker 1I'm like that's crazy like back off the 5, 6, 5, 8, 5, 9, 5, 10 men. They suit for you. They will make you feel tiny still, you will make them feel manly. Stop, no, they'll still go for 6 foot plus. I've seen like like this, and I'm just like yeah, it's weird but then I yeah, but that's what I say when I see the guys going for those short girls. I'm like it's a bit weird, mate, like I don't really get it, because they have to kind of pick up their girlfriend.
Speaker 2No, I don't know, man, there's a few pluses to it, innit oh relegate. I'm not. I'm not. You know what I mean. I'm just a regular jigger. You gotta give him that hug. Yeah, he's always twisting around. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1Oh my goodness, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2Oh my goodness, don't have to deal with that TMI, tmi. Tmi, don't have to deal with that, but it makes sense.
Speaker 1But he's 6'4" so he's going to have presents anyway, yeah, no, but anyway, yeah, I feel like I think the best thing about it was that we were just friends at the beginning as well, and it was just friendly chit chat and then it was.
Speaker 2It wasn't because you liked him from the beginning.
Speaker 1No, no, no, no. I didn't. I like the look of him, but I didn't know if I liked his personality. It's a slow burner. I don't know if I like your personality until.
Speaker 2I can actually grow, she's right.
Speaker 1I didn't go on a first date until a month after Listen no, because I can listen. There can be guys that are beautiful. Yeah, of a brick wall. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2I'm calling bullshit. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1You can call bullshit, but it doesn't mean you're right.
Speaker 2The fact that you got, the fact that he got your attention, means you already like him. He's already.
Speaker 1She just said like the look.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no, no. Okay, so we already know if a girl, a woman, doesn't like a man to a certain extent.
Speaker 1How many people? How many people? If you're not attractive, we don't see you yeah, and she's saying she's attracted to him.
Speaker 2That's all she knows at this moment. Okay, I would sidestep to that one, that's fine, I can.
Speaker 1I can agree with that one, then find some attractive at the moment, and so she's just talking to him to see if she likes the personality, because she knows she likes okay, so you're doing it in phases?
Speaker 2yeah, yeah, you have to. I'll accept that it's not.
Speaker 1It's not like a oh my gosh, I like him, I'm gonna date him. It was actually like, oh, it caught my eye. It's like, wow, a guy's actually caught my eye. Yeah, now let's talk to them, yeah, and see if they've got so phase one complete yeah yeah, then I spoke to him for about a month.
Speaker 1yeah, that was phase two. I actually had one phone call out of that whole month. It was mostly texting. Actually, no, it must have been two phone calls out of that month and like, the first phone call was about I don't know about two hours, which was quite long, wow. And then the second phone call was about an hour kind of thing, so he can hold a conversation with me. And then he organized our first date. We went to, I remember doing those pen games at box park, yeah, yeah, we went to the semi-final to one of those, um, and then, yeah, that was our first date and it was very, it was very, oh my gosh, it was very awkward. They're not awkward, but I was very nervous because it's like, firstly, obviously, your first date, even though I've met him before and stuff, it's still like ah and then um, but he was very like gentlemanly, he met me at my car we walked all the way because I had to park my car.
Speaker 1He told me the location to park my car as well.
Speaker 1Um, he said like you could probably park it here, there's free, like parking um, he slaps you right and then he and then he came to my car and we walked all the way to box park together, which about a 10 minute walk, um. And then we went to box park, went to the pain games and he bought me my drinks, um, and then, like we were just like standing side by side. It was very like cute, like friendly, though, and then I feel like late as the night gone, he got a bit more comfortable and he kind of like put his arm around me, but it was cute, it was just like one arm and he's like really tall, as well, he's being a gentleman.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's being very gentle.
Speaker 1And then, obviously, when it finished it was very late, it was dark and he said, um, he, he was, um getting trained. He said I'll walk you to your car before, obviously you like go, and he walked me to my car and then that was the end of the day. Oh, I think that's really beautiful story. I love that and I really, really hope that your relationship just yeah, blossoms and blossoms.
Speaker 2I have a feeling this is the one that's not gonna get caught by the cancer culture, because yeah, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1I wasn't even gonna bring it up because I didn't even want to speak into it.
Speaker 2No, I understand like 100 percent. Um, yeah, so hopefully you can come back, yeah, in about a year's time.
Speaker 1About a year's time I'll be here every week we talk about it yeah, no, but the thing is as well. I feel like people need to know how to treat you, and if they do know how to treat you, I feel like I'm not saying okay, so you know, those relationships that last long after I don't know like, say like Jay-Z and Beyonce, yeah, yeah. Yeah, when Jay-Z cheated on her.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it's still going Like. They're still together, they're still in love, they're still the power couple, one of the biggest power couples. It's because, yeah, he effed up, yeah, but he must know her so much where she's not willing to let that go.
Speaker 2That guy money. Are you mad?
Speaker 1they're just yeah, money as well, but you don't think they're both in a call and they're both like okay, what about? Um, what about kevin hart and his wife? Listen, don't get me started, kevin hart, you can't, for me, I can't. I can't compare nothing to celebrities because nothing, none of it's real, but I can't I can't buy it.
Speaker 2Man, man, man. Some of them have got to be real.
Speaker 1I'm sorry, they're humans, but yeah, some of them have to be I. I just can't see I might compare a relationship that like I might have or I might look for yeah to a public, oh no but you should never. You should never um try and match your or like compare your relationship to someone else's. Anyway, everyone relationship is different.
Speaker 1What I'm saying is I've seen people in a healthy relationship outside, but I know what it's like behind closed doors you know, so I've seen the whole people putting on the front, but then I've seen people in relationships where I'm just like, wow, you actually know each other yeah, yeah, like you actually know like you're going, the like you're going, the longevity 100, because you actually know each other, and that's the only thing I aspire for and, to be fair, the things that you said.
Speaker 2They look like he looks after you and you look after him in your, in your simple ways. It's very simple, but it's very, very meaningful. It's very effective as well. Exactly, yeah, and the communication part like him being a good communicator, it allows him to lead you in the right way and it allows you to receive what he's saying, and also allow gives you the access to him to voice your opinion as well. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1That's a big key one is that he lets me talk, like I've been in relationships before where, like I just basically turned into a mute, I didn't, I couldn't talk to them because everything I said just got shut down or it was wrong or I wasn't saying what they wanted to hear, basically. So that is like don't get me wrong, I'm not a shouter. I don't shout at people, I don't curse people, I don't even I don't even think I have a nasty tongue. I tell people sharp maybe, but even then I feel bad about it, kind of thing. So when I have that, like when I actually am angry about something, I do in a very calm way and people will get scared about that.
Speaker 1But I was like no, because I don't feel like if you're just shouting, ranting and raving at someone, if someone did that to me, I wouldn't even know how to respond. I wouldn't be able to comprehend it. So I treat people how I want to be treated. So if I'm trying to get my point across and if I just shout at you, I'm not going to get my point across, but if I do it in a way where I'm basically expressing my feelings and telling you exactly what's wrong in a calm manner. I'm expecting you to do it back to me, but then then you know if someone understands you or not.
Speaker 1Because if you say something in a calm way and I'm like, even if I said to you, I was like you know what, the way you just spoke to me right now, I didn't appreciate it and you instantly got defensive. You are the problem, I'm not the problem. You know what I mean. So again, it's like I can tell him if he's done something wrong and he will accept it, and if he doesn't accept it, he will say it back why he doesn't accept it, because he'll always accept my feelings. But he will say I understand where you're coming from. However, I didn't mean to do it in that way and I'm sorry it came across that way, kind of thing. And then you work through it.
Speaker 2That's fast and you know what? The fact that he has the humility to say sorry because you hurt your feelings. However, he's still standing on business. It's just vibes, man it's good vibes.
Speaker 1Sounds like you caught a good guy there. Sounds like you gotta keep them. Ladies, take notes from what you're hearing this is it for real, no riddle for riddle for real, for real for riddle yeah, but sometimes yeah, it's a hard one, like don't get me wrong, there's still. There's still. Obviously you're working with someone like it's compatibility and stuff like that. Nothing's like made in, made in a day type thing. But do you think that loyalty is um a choice? 100 do you think that it's inbuilt in us? It's a choice.
Speaker 1It depends on you, you know things a bit of both yeah, depends on you, man yeah, what you, what nature versus nurture. Oh yeah, I feel like. I feel like because it can be taught as well I feel like it. You know it's, it's going to be more inbuilt when you, if you come up in in a household that morality is held high with 100.
Speaker 1Yeah, I get that um, but obviously it's still a conscious choice to be. I just feel like some people are more naturally loyal than others. Oh yeah, I'm loyal as they come. Like I can't, yeah, but I do think it's a choice and you know what it sounds silly. Yeah, sometimes I need to think about this you don't know what a step is for, but you know what.
Speaker 2Let me think I'm supposed to be the truth in it, like I think. I think women can be a lot more loyal than men at times, especially when it comes to their man.
Speaker 1Most of the time, I'd say yeah. As soon as the standard is most men cheat, I would say that yeah, probably like most women are.
Speaker 2I do believe that man, like the way that I've seen women, like back there man and like doubt on, not doubt what what's lost out. It's another word I can't, I'm tired today, I can't do more words but they just put a lot of love into their man and like sometimes you don't see what love is blind yeah, yeah, almost, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1yeah, they see a lot of potential like and then they'll run with potential. Yeah, projects whereas men won't every, you know 100%, like men want you like ready kind of thing. Women women love a project. Men, I feel like in a relationship yeah, like you know, some things like going wrong. A woman will look at the relationship and she'll be like, oh, but I love this and I love this and we're good when this, and you know at least he tries to do this as a man will go.
Speaker 2Yeah we're done a man.
Speaker 1Men are very selfish and one thing men have taught me is to be selfish when dealing with in relationships with men, like the man is going to be selfish. So there were times where I'm like not putting myself first because I'm pouring so much into man. I'm like hold on, this motherfucker is selfish by nature. Let me just hold, catch myself and be more selfish.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying all right, I was having a conversation with um, one of my sisters, about this how much percentage do you think you should put into a relationship?
Speaker 1I think it depends on a day. I feel like I feel like a healthy dynamic, I think, would be to be able to say to your partner you know, like you know, I can give 50 today, cool, 150, 50. You wake up and you say like listen, I've only got 30 in me today, so the other person's like I'm gonna be the 70, but if you both only got 30, you agree to give each other space. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like I think you can communicate through everything and through anything if you're willing to, if you want to, if you love them I'm saying now, man, I'm saying you'd have to give me a hundred percent of you in my relationship oh no, yeah, like, I mean, like when you're in terms of effort, I understand I mean like in a, I mean like in a in a, both sort of way.
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Speaker 1But I feel like if you're in a relationship, you're in the relationship like 100, oh yeah, yeah, you, you gotta, you gotta want me 100, yeah oh, yeah, 100, but if a woman actually loves you, she like this is what I'm saying I get when they say, when they say, guys, that the whole sex thing doesn't have to be an intimate thing, it can just be a release. Because I get that like, I feel like with women we are well, me personally, I have to have emotional connection with you. I can't, I can't say, if a woman doesn't give you a hundred, I feel like she doesn't really.
Speaker 2I make a match and that sort of thing yeah, but I say that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1I feel like women, if they're not really, if they're not feeling that for you, they're looking, their eyes are wandering, they're% committed, but women are doing that now too. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's because no one's happy, because they get into a lot of these relationships.
Speaker 2And women aren't giving 100% of their relationships and they wonder why it's failing.
Speaker 1Yeah, but why would they want to give 100% to a feminine man? Because that's what 90% of the men are out there. I can't just go. Women and all this, because it's literally um the dynamics of change, a build-up of a million problems and and and shifts in in social dynamics.
Speaker 2What needs to change for men, then? What? How can you make men less feminine?
Speaker 1oh, stop drinking tap water.
Speaker 2That, yeah, that actually isn't no, that actually like it's actually real?
Speaker 1yeah, because women obviously have the pill and it like when they go toilet and it gets filtered through the. That's the only thing that doesn't get filtered through. So when it comes out of the tap it actually has the women pill in it, like it's actually a real thing, along with all the other chemicals yeah, yeah, no one filters their water, yeah no, but even if you do feel your water, yeah, yeah, it's still in there.
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying, okay so, because, so, because I actually do this, this man, so I get the water from the tap, put it in the kettle, boil it. That probably will work. That works, yeah, yeah I think that works, yeah. Wait, wait wait, wait.
Speaker 1What did you just say?
Speaker 2If he puts it in the kettle.
Speaker 1I boil my water, what's it called? So basically, the fluoride in your water, when boiled, it actually becomes 10 times worse, is it? I didn't know this until last year either, because I thought it was a safe way. But it's not. Listen, everything, everything's got something that's trying to kill you 100%.
Speaker 2So what am I drinking then?
Speaker 1bottled water, but what? But Voss? The glass bottle, not even the plastic, one plastic bad If you do pH. You want the most alkaline water. You can buy alkaline water. I just drink sparkling water.
Speaker 2I like sparkling water. You know, I love sparkling water. People call me crazy for it.
Speaker 1You know People always call me crazy for it. It tastes like white noise or like static.
Speaker 2Yeah, someone said it tastes like static.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's just like weird.
Speaker 2I love it.
Speaker 1Fizzy what Fizzy nothing. I used to be obsessed with.
Speaker 2Fizzy what fizzy nothing like I don't I used to be obsessed with fizzy drinks, so then I had sparkly water and it's like I have that fizzy drink. But I love fizzy drink, but I would never fucking drink sparkling water see, I see I do like fizzy drinks, but I stopped it because it's just, it's just bad for you, it's so bad yeah yeah, so that's my, that's my like um my fourth no, but back to the topic, though guys need to.
Speaker 1Just the thing is yeah, like I'm all here for men cry too. 100, like I don't. I don't dispute it at all. Yeah, but there's, women can cry too. But if a woman cries and she's like, she's called erratic, you get it yeah so why? But? But also why is it okay when a man is just like upset and needs?
Speaker 1expecting all this feminine energy I also think it's weird that when we're like, oh, women are so emotional, like we're fucking supposed to be, bro, like yeah, we actually are in emotion, and when we're allowed to just be, we have so much bitches that's. That's when we're allowed to flourish, is when I feel like the best relationship dynamic is like a really secure man, and then it's like a bitch, is like a bit crazy, and she just gets to be like she has to be a bit crazy, yeah a hundred percent have to be a bit crazy.
Speaker 1And the guy's so secure that you're allowed to be that emotional because he's secure and emotional yeah, like it's healthy, your woman should be.
Speaker 2if she's not, there's some shit wrong If a woman's a brick wall, I mean something's going wrong, definitely.
Speaker 1Yeah, but if your woman's like masculine, like has that masculine energy, something's wrong.
Speaker 2Yeah, you need to put her in. You just need to set the ground rules, man, especially if they used to be masculine as well. You just have to literally just get that out I could.
Speaker 1I don't think I personally could deal with a feminine man like someone who's just so, what do you? Okay? So, on the topic of feminine men, what do you think about the men that make TikToks? Because I think, like what the TikTok dancers I've no, not, but you know what not? Not necessarily always dance, because some of the dances are dope and they'll be like a group of people and it's like their talent. You know, I'm saying I am talking about the men that we post in first straps, the men they open capital.
Speaker 1Oh no, select nine images and put them in put in, make that, make an own little edit of themselves and then post it. I just be thinking a feminine, feminine, feminine, like, like, why are you enjoying that as a man? Like all that, like, I just think it's. I think it's weird. I saw a post earlier and the girl was when someone had commented on a video, like, oh, your man looks like he doesn't want to be there and she's like damn straight. If he wanted to look like he'd be. If my man came up to me and said, oh, will you be in a TikTok? He'd be out, he'd be gone.
Speaker 1I'd be like you're okay in the head. Like what do you mean? Like, okay, girlfriend, you trend. Yeah, where it was. Like the guy, the girl wore the thing.
Speaker 2The girl wore the guy clothes and the guy wore the girl clothes.
Speaker 1Yeah, yes, yeah, and they, and like you, literally would see some guys in like thongs and stuff what about? What about the current one where it's like, um, I want you to get on your knees and bark like you want it. And they've got all their men dropping to the floor, getting on their knees, pretending to bark. I'm like, oh my, if I saw my man do that, I would vomit like I said if I would do that as a test to my man, will you do this tiktok?
Speaker 1if he said, yes, I'm like you're gone. You know what do you mean. What do you mean? You're gonna drop on your knees for the dark like a dog, like a bit? Absolutely, man, I would. Some tiktok trends are like actually crazy or like flip the switch when it was the. They're swapping off the clothes as well.
Speaker 1I feel, like it's like mini humiliation rituals that they're just doing for free, like nah facts, because they do it in the music and they're sharing it. Yeah, they do like that's it's a whole thing, humiliation rituals, like in the music industry, like it's an actual thing and it's just. Oh, is it? It's just, it's just weird. I just see it and I just think like how, how do you do that? And like chill when you say like look yourself in the mirror after like Nah it's rough, man, I can't, I can't see.
Speaker 1No, but if my man actually wore a dress, I'd have to end it. Yeah, if he came to me with the tic, if I came to him, maybe a bit different, but if he came to me, I feel like if I'm begging like, if it's just me and him and I'm like oh, please, let me do this like it's a bit different, but if he came to me, but really for anyone else in the world besides me and you to see like
Speaker 1no, if he came to me and was like will you do this? No, for everyone to see, just because I'm on a viral moment. I was like I can't.
Speaker 2Him wearing a funk that's mad, nah, nah.
Speaker 1Fuck it.
Speaker 2Nah, that's done.
Speaker 1Wearing a bra and dress.
Speaker 2That's mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah Do you know what's crazy?
Speaker 1It's like when I was like 17 or whatever, like I'd always be like to my boyfriend just to practice, just for fun, like I'm bored, like don't let me take a picture and post it, like just let me. And he's always like are you fucking mad? And I used to sit and I used to say you're fucking insecure. I take that back listen, I've grown as a woman.
Speaker 1I take that back. I'm so glad you're not letting me fucking do makeup on you and shit, because I don't want to fucking do it. Like why are they insecure? Because they don't want to have a full face of makeup on. They are a man. Yeah, that was just me being like no, obviously you're learning, yeah peer pressure, peer pressure, peer pressure.
Speaker 1Have you ever experienced peer pressure? Yeah, oh yeah. 100 when, when's your worst experience? Oh god, I can't even think of my worst peer pressure, worst, you know, I don't know. I said yes, whatever it was, when, when's your worst experience with him. I can't even think of my worst, worst, you know, I don't know. I said yes, whatever it was, but probably just like trying something when I was younger, my mum was honest.
Speaker 2I had a, so my bridging shout out my bridging. I'm not going to say names. It was his birthday and he gave me some of these gummies, innit, yeah and like.
Speaker 1THC or mushroom gummy.
Speaker 2Nah, it was THC. Yeah, so I ate like four of these motherfuckers. No way, I was off my head. Do you understand me? Like I thought I could hear my heartbeat. I know it's like, yeah, like my heart was literally in my mouth and I can just hear it. It's like, and I can hear everything and I'm thinking like people are talking to me on the line.
Speaker 2You're as high as a motherfucker. I was off my Charlie and like there was a, there was a spider, yeah, in his dance that was just staring at me. Till this day I'll never forget. Must get the spiders anything here. But it's got the spider just getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1I'm going, I was going mad that is my funniest edible story, I think, is probably like so I took them, took like a pack of edibles, and then I just forgot that I'd take them and I call my dad and I'm on the phone with my dad and I'm just chatting, chatting away to my dad, like it's like I always do, and I just thought, like this is when I was like buying like loads of crystals and shit like first entered that like era, and I was on the phone to my dad and I was like, look at these crystals I bought.
Speaker 1And like I picked them up, I flipped the camera and I went like this, yeah, and as I went like this, I swear on my life, the edibles kicked in from my body and I I thought I forgot that I've taken these edibles. I I just started freaking out and I was going on my dad. Oh my god, they're real, they're powerful I was like they're crystals I was just like sending some power throughout my body.
Speaker 1I started like freaking the fuck out, like what have I bought? Like this is like I can't handle this kind of power, like freaking out, and then, like five minutes later, I just burst out laughing.
Speaker 2I thought, fucking dickhead, I took it yeah, and it was a day for me.
Speaker 1I can't take edibles, man they are hardcore, they are hard no, they make me get that, they turn me crazy.
Speaker 2I can't do that.
Speaker 1the only, the only time I've taken it is I went to one of my friend's birthday parties, um, and they were all just like obviously it was like she done all got all the girls that actually had like a house party type thing, but but it was just all girls and, um, she does the birthday cake and that having a couple of slices. And then I think I was halfway through my second slice and her cousin came up to me and was like son, that's an edible birthday cake. You're only supposed to have one slice, but I'm just seeing this big chocolate like gato type cake.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm thinking this is.
Speaker 1I childed down yeah and um, I was like what does that mean? I didn't even know what edibles were. I was like what does that mean? And she was like you'll be. She was like you'll be fine, you'll be fine. When someone says the worst thing someone can say to you in that moment is you'll be fine. I just started sitting there. I was paranoid, I. The music just became really loud, my body was sweating. Then I got so hungry I pretty much ate everything I could find and then I passed out yeah, yeah yeah, woke up the next day at like three o'clock, I think.
Speaker 1At least you passed out yeah, I couldn't pass out. But I've got in the paranoia, I've got a heart condition, so I think I don't think it was a good thing that I passed out yeah but that's what I'm saying. There should be some warnings or something yeah, yeah but yeah, no, it was, it was a crazy one so what about you?
Speaker 2what your peer pressure was, your professional?
Speaker 1ah, what did I get? Peer pressure, probably, probably, to drink. I used to. I didn't actually want to drink. I I drank for the first time when I was like 19, um, and it was when I was at uni and, um, one of these girls was, um, best friends with my boyfriend at the time sister. So she was like you know, like come here, like take me under your wing, type thing, and these girls were crazy, they loved to drink and they were like, oh, you never really drank and I was like I literally had, I think before that I had a w, uh, a vk. No, yeah, wkd, that's it. Yeah, wkd, the blue one, and that was it. So, alka pop. And they were like, oh, I'm like, have you ever had shots before? I was like, no, they're like, I'll have sours, they're fine, they're not really like you know, alcohol.
Speaker 1So I was like they're not alcohol, are they alcohol? I'm not really sure. So they just keep pouring me the sours. And then I have a glass of wine, because they were like, oh, you never had wine before. I think it tastes disgusting. They put some lemonade in it. So I have the lemonade and, like I basically probably tried like five different alcohols in one night.
Speaker 1And let's just say, like I don't really remember the night, I just remember that we left. We went to the club, I went to the bathroom no, I went to the bar. I bought a bottle of rose that cost me 20 pounds, which back then it was expensive, like 20 pounds on a bottle of rose in the club and then I left it at the bar, told my friends it was there and help yourself, went to the bathroom, threw up, got kicked out. I waited for them for about three hours to come out. They came out, but I think I just left just before that because I remember where the taxi rank was. Um, no, no, none of the taxis would let me in because obviously I was drunk.
Speaker 1My, my housemate was working at a club around the corner. So I went there, begged the security to let me in because obviously the club was finished. I was crying my eyes out, she was obviously doing the bar cleanup and stuff like that. They let me in. I just sat there with her coat over me and um, and then eventually, um, we got a taxi and I paid for that as well. I think I paid like. I think I spent like 80 pounds that night, fucking hell but, yeah, for a girl that's a lot.
Speaker 1That is a lot, by the way. The way, for a girl that's a lot. That is so much.
Speaker 2That's just a normal no, that's so much.
Speaker 1I was having this conversation with someone recently and they were just saying how like an average night out for a guy Like two, three hundred pounds, Like two three hundred quid and I was like what I might spend like 20 fucking quids buying makeup and like getting our hair done, getting our nails done. I don't really go do the most in it.
Speaker 1It's not in one go yeah, but I would say they're still going to have a nice outfit on and nice trainers and stuff. So if you've got to take their, oh yeah, they definitely spend more than us Everything's expensive man. On a night out. Oh yeah, I would hate it.
Speaker 2Yeah, everything's expensive when.
Speaker 1I was underage, I was in the clubs, yeah, with fake ID. This one night I went out with about £3.30 in my purse. Well, I was broke as fuck, 16. And my friend she had a loyalty card to the club which got her and a friend in for free. Yeah, it was like loyalty card.
Speaker 2That's crazy.
Speaker 1And so I'd go in, and I remember this one night I come back with like 25 quid. The same night I'd left with £3.30.
Speaker 2Mad.
Speaker 1Oh, so I used to. No, I used to do that because when people wanted to buy rounds, like especially guys and stuff, they would give me like £40 to buy the round. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and whatever the change was, I used to keep. So I think one night I actually came back with about yeah, about the same, or like 30 quid or something. So for me, going out, I'm either spending nothing or just entry, yeah, like.
Speaker 2I'm not. I'm not spending entry though.
Speaker 1Like that's what I'm saying, like for anything. If I'm paying for anything like I really don't, no, that's what I'm saying, like at minimum.
Speaker 2I'm not going out and spending £100 like the guys are. If I'm paying for anything, I'm paying for my entry and that's about it. It's like it's minimum £20 to get into a club yeah, minimum, but I would just not spend that.
Speaker 1Used to be a fiver back in the day it used to be free yeah, it used to be free before 11. Yeah, yeah, fiver, I don't know none of them in the house, see, we only had like one one nightclub in south earth.
Speaker 1So, no, but the thing is as well with, yeah, not, if you have you ever? Have you guys ever been to miami? No, okay, you go to miami, you don't go to miami girls, in miami, everything's free. Like everything, like I went to, okay, let me think about this whole day. Okay, so you go to a boat party, you go to a brunch, then you go to a pre-dinner, then you go to the pre-drinks before the club, and then you go to the club, then you go to the after club, you go to sleep for five hours and then you do it all again, everything's free. I did not. I went to miami for seven, yeah, seven days, eight nights, yeah, and I spent a hundred dollars and that was just on excursions because my mom wanted to go to like like places, like we had to go see the crocodiles and stuff my friend went to miami because I'm she's spending the same amount of time what he?
Speaker 1yeah, frequent yeah, yeah, no, no, my, my boyfriend has gone to uh miami and he spent about four grand when he went four grand three, four grand, yeah, but he went on like for his. They was all their birthdays at the same time, or whatever. Yeah, yeah, but this is like as much as there's like downs to being a woman. Yeah, there are so many beautiful privileges to being a woman. They don't get talked about enough. Do you think all women have those privileges? No, I wouldn't say, all women have those privileges.
Speaker 1Do you think it's bad though.
Speaker 2Yeah, that all women don't. That's life though, isn't it? Yeah, that's just the way the cookie crumbles. It's the same with men. Yeah, if you, where the cookie crumbles, it's like the same with men.
Speaker 1Yeah, like if you ate six four and you know no, but like I went to. So one of my friends went out with her friend to um, a mayfair club, and they both didn't get in. But then my friend went with me to that same club and she got in and the way that she was so anxious that she wasn't going to get in and I was like you're going to get in, and she was like no, like when they even like charged, like we're saying that it's 20 pounds to get in as well, and they were like yeah, yeah, we'll pay the 20 pound. They were like full entry, it's like full. They were like there's no more entry, it's full. And then, just as they were getting out of the queue, they let two other girls go, like go inside so they buy the disrespect the yeah, the prettiest ones that they want yeah, they're just choosing because of looks.
Speaker 2Man, that's yeah, they do. Do you feel that happened in manchester, so I can understand that?
Speaker 1no, but even with that, it's not just so like it might not just be like pretty looks or something like that. Like if they feel like they have too many black girls or too many mixed race girls, like I've been turned away because, um, I don't know, maybe I'm too black that day, kind of thing, like my braids, I've got braids in and whatever, and they're just like we've got too many that's crazy like, but they won't outright say it to you.
Speaker 2But you know it happens in it like you know kind of thing.
Speaker 1But I feel that that's why I don't really go to clubs unless I actually know the people. Now, because I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to have that happen, because there is a club that it did happen to, it did happen at, and then I went back there a couple weeks later, where I knew more people that were going there, and they let me in, but I was literally the same.
Speaker 2I never thought that would happen to women, you know, because obviously men, like we know, like for a fact, we have to go in like pockets of two every half an hour, just so we can all get in oh, really yeah they can't go in a big group or they have to have like girls with them, unless unless we actually know someone there.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm so out the clubbing scene like this I'm soaking this all of his new information especially if you're out of town as well, if you're from, if you're from Birmingham, it's calm yeah, just don't yeah but like, if you go to Manchester or Liverpool, like Liverpool there's like 20 of us, so we had to go. We all went to different like pockets and then like we'll change friends. So like, alright, so if this group of gold is placing and then we'll meet up, what's the fucking point of going out?
Speaker 1that's just so much.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was fun, though it was fun, though we did the same thing.
Speaker 1I don't know that I'd get put in like the group that I didn't want to be in. I'm saying honestly but yeah well, men don't care yeah, guys actually don't care like this is.
Speaker 1This is one thing I can say about guys. Yeah, like they're all just friends. Yeah, like girls it's a bit more technical Like if you're with certain people you'll tolerate them, but you're just like ah. But I feel like that's because men's friendships are like more surface level and I feel like women, because you have more surface level friendships. They're not as deep and yeah, they can be. Yeah, they can be.
Speaker 2But I'm saying in general women, women are more with everything that we do.
Speaker 1No, I hear what you're saying I'm saying so two women being in a friendship is going to naturally be deeper than two men in a friendship, because women are emotionally what we're rooted in I hear what you're saying so I feel like that's definitely
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Speaker 1no, I get it because if you was being as deep I say, like women are in friendships with every single guy you probably wouldn't be as just cool friends no, I'm saying, if you had to get deeper and even no, I'm saying I won't say I agree totally, but I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2There's, there's layers to it. Just your friends are your friends in it. So you go through. You go through some stuff.
Speaker 1If you actually yeah, I mean like and you and you have talks.
Speaker 2Do you get what I'm saying? And that's just as a group or individually.
Speaker 1I mean like in the setting that you gave, like on a night out.
Speaker 2Even that yeah.
Speaker 1Like the 20 people.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Like I feel like with 20 women, there's definitely going to be some cat anus going on was meant some man getting to scruffles these days.
Speaker 1Yeah, definitely they love to have their say, I know. But there was a group of lads, I know where they. One of them was like oh, you're taking all the women from me to. The other guy was like yeah, like you're supposed to be my wingman but you're supposed to assist, but they were just taken. They were taken, but the thing is, the guy that they were accusing of this had a girlfriend. So it's a bit like was he or was he just? It's not his fault? Obviously the girls were more attracted to him than they were to the other guy. But the other guy took it so personally and he was like you're supposed, because he's saying yo send them my way.
Speaker 1That's what he's saying yeah, but there's only so much assistance. But yeah, I was about to say if the girl if the girl don't like you if the only guy that the girls are liking, they ain't gonna go check their friends if they don't like you they don't like you, how'd that work out? I assisted a guy. It was actually alright. It wasn't too bad. It was kind of just like how did you do assisting there?
Speaker 1go on went to the, waited for her to go to the bathroom, just sussed her out, just said, oh, I really like I think I said I like her talk and she was like, oh, it's from Sheen. And then I was like, oh, I was just thought I was trying to hit on her because it didn't work so much. And then she was just like, oh, you know girls night. And I was like, yeah, I love a girl's night.
Speaker 1And then, um, I had a death before you trying to hit on me yeah, yeah but then I was like, oh, I'm getting so tired, I can't wait for my man to pick me up. And she goes oh, lucky you. I wish I had a man. And then I was just like I'm not gonna lie, someone out there likes you. And then she just kind of got the giggles and she was just like what? I was like what I would do is I would just walk over to them and if you do like them, just come over and just say like you want to get a drink or whatever. So then that's all. Next to she liked a bit of him.
Speaker 2And then and then I was just like I was just like, oh this.
Speaker 1I met this lovely girl in the bathroom that's a kind of thing. But, um, when I've done it to a girl, like to assist him with a guy, I don't know, girls are a bit weird when you assist them. It's like because you're trying to be chatty to the guy, but then I feel like they get a bit, I would never, I would never even try, yeah, I'd never even.
Speaker 2So wing play in terms of like girls to males is better than female to female. Yeah, Mad.
Speaker 1Yeah, because the thing is, if you go and like, if you go and talk to the guy for your girlfriend, like it's like it's a really.
Speaker 2It's an awkward moment?
Speaker 1No, because you're not trying. You're trying to be friendly because you're trying to, but realistically the man's going to be more attracted to the woman. That's just walked up to you anyway with the confidence, versus saying there's a woman that doesn't have confidence to talk to you but wants to talk to you and it's like then you don't. You don't want to be like flirty, I just feel like.
Speaker 2I just feel like it's just a sticky one.
Speaker 1That's, you're not wrong, because also as well if I don't find you attractive, you'll know as well like there could be the opposite. So if I'm going to try and chat to a guy for you, they're gonna kind of know that I'm not interested. They're gonna be like why is this girl talking to me? But I do know, like there was this one girl that I was friends with where the only way she could get a guy was to put me down.
Speaker 1So she just got threatened she just used to think that I wanted the guys that she would go for kind of thing, and I didn't and I was happy for her to play the field, whatever but say she was talking to him and then his friend was talking to me or whatever. She would like start saying, oh, um, you know chanel's this age right, and you know chanel has like you know. I mean she'll just keep saying like things that would try, like in a way, would I don't know she thinks that make me look bad, but it didn't kind of thing. Yeah, and I was like. I was like really, people do that, but guys do that to each other as well as well. When I talk about the situation where guys think that the guy's trying to take the girls or whatever, they start belittling them as well, and I was like that's a really bitch move.
Speaker 2Yeah it's noise, bro, it's noise. It's noise any guy that chats too much for the bin. Sometimes I say that's my opinion. I hate, I hate, I hate when men just chat too much, especially when they're talking to women as well, like having full-blown arguments and stuff.
Speaker 1I just like a man that lets me yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, and he's just gonna sit there and listen and he's just gonna give his two pence on something. Just let me, just let me talk, just let me chat shit and just tell me, show me that you're listening yeah and show a little bit of interest.
Speaker 1You don't have to be interested in everything I'm saying no I really value when a man will just let me get me just just just be a girl, just like you're filling the tea. You know, I'm saying like yeah, yeah, I just I love that yeah, but your, your mind's supposed to be kind of like a little bit of a girl, and you know what men claim they don't like the tea.
Speaker 1They love, they love the tea is mad because they'll be like you'll be saying all about your friend or whatever, you'll be filling them in on the gossip or whatever and be like, and then like two days later that they want to know. Also just like, and they're the same with TV shows as well.
Speaker 2Like you watch a TV?
Speaker 1show what's this bullshit? Yeah, A week later they're like oh so what did they get back together? Did they break up?
Speaker 2I can tell? Have you been watching it about me?
Speaker 1I can text my brother, right him gossip and he will call me my dad, five minutes dad to any gossip that I get.
Speaker 2My dad loves gossiping I don't know what it is. Man, this is weird because you're like oh, this is, you've been let into the, the group yeah you get sucked in we've given you like a little peek into the group chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like you don't want to know, but you just kind of.
Speaker 1I'll be like this one bottle girl just punched this other bottle girl. She's going in the police and then literally my mom would just be like, oh my gosh, so what happened did? She call the police did she call the police? No, she didn't call the police because I. She didn't call the police because I told my boss, boss, the only way she weren't going to call the police if she, if they put her in charge, yeah, so you put her in charge, because no club wants the girl yeah, no, no club wants the police on their on their neck.
Speaker 2Basically, yeah, you get closed down. Makes sense.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh, but bottle girls models they're the worst, like the things I could tell you in certain muddling jobs and stuff like that. Like people like steal from each other. They like um, some girl was like put like a guy in there and said like and out with another girl and said like she's been sleeping with my man, like it's better than restenders. It's crazy. Group chats can be crazy, but it got to the point where the person who owned the group chat was like only work related stuff can be discussed in this group chat.
Speaker 2Now especially with like whatsapp and stuff like that. It's getting.
Speaker 1It is what do you mean it's getting?
Speaker 2well, it depends on like certain people that say are that this is happening, that happens, and then they go to like the police and stuff and they can encrypt it oh, really, I thought um whatsapp, wasn't yeah, was. Yeah, they can decrypt it.
Speaker 1Oh, really, I thought WhatsApp wasn't. Yeah, yeah, they can decrypt it. I want to ask you a question actually. So you know, on iPhone they have the update where you can like lock your Instagram. Now it's like face recognition, mad yeah, and it's the same with WhatsApp as well. If someone did that, do you think that's shady?
Speaker 1Yeah with whatsapp as well. If someone did that, do you think that's shady? Yeah, what so? Like, unlocks it with your face? Yeah, yeah, so say, you have whatsapp just on your phone now. Yeah, you couldn't. Just, no one could just open it. It'd have to be your face to open it. Um, yeah, I would say, that's shady. I don't have if you look at that I think the government are after me all the time, so I don't have a id I don't have fun print, I don't have phone print, I don't have Siri on, I don't do anything.
Speaker 2Passcode yeah.
Speaker 1Just straight passcode. Yeah, just straight passcode. But so I didn't even know that you could do that. It's a new update, that's what.
Speaker 2I'm saying it's one of the newest updates.
Speaker 1I locking up. That's crazy. But then how do you feel about when people have their phone like that or have it like that do?
Speaker 2you get shady.
Speaker 1Well, I'd have it like that because anyone that I want that. I don't want people to see what their name is. They're saved as an encrypted thing anyway, so it doesn't matter if anything pops down like it's already covered and all my notifications. You can't read them unless it's unlocked anyway yeah, so it can stay like that.
Speaker 1I'm saying yeah, no, I, I do both man but listen, that's shady, that's me but when I'm dealing with a man, yeah, and every time they're around me yeah, I'm like okay, all I'm gonna say is that I've I've been around both like my man literally sleeps with his phone right next to him. Fair enough, but it's like that and he sleeps like a baby. If he didn't sleep like a baby and his phone was like down the side or something, I'm like you're shady as f nah but do you know what shady as I don't find it.
Speaker 1I ain't ever going through a man's phone and the relationship's already done. Yeah, no, 100, like I. I agree, and I just don't understand the thing is it's like when I was younger, say, like last time I went through a man's phone I was probably what, 19, 20, and it's just like I already know that I'm gonna. You all because you all. Yeah, my mom says if you look, if you think a man's lying, like if you go through their face because you're looking for something, it doesn't matter if it's the truth or not.
Speaker 2This is what I was about to say.
Speaker 1Whatever it is, you're looking for it so, like one, I already know that I'm going to find something that is going to get hurt, Even if whatever they were doing was valid at the time. You're feeling sick and now you're just left with like visuals and just seeing it on screen and I'm just like, fuck, you just don't need to, don't need to, don't want to, whatever you got in there. Don't do it to yourself. Yeah, don, it's really not, because you never forget yeah, it's not worth a crash at?
Speaker 1it's really not. Can I tell you what? I'd be going through my man's phone, yeah, while he's asleep, when I was younger, and now it's 3am. This guy is just like. I'm sat there raging waiting for him to wake up, smack him on the side and just like trying to nudge him every two seconds. And now he's going to wake up so that I can just absolutely fucking go. Ham, I think one time I did it, one time I had a straight pillow to just go like fire.
Speaker 2Oh, my God.
Speaker 1Or wake you up to this shit Never wake me up. I used to be very I mean, I still am, but just in a different way.
Speaker 2I would literally put you to sleep. Man, I ain't lying.
Speaker 1No, because if someone woke me up from a nap, I'm not happy, yeah, yeah like don't, whatever, it can just wait till we're that night. That night, what I felt like was pure, was pure rage.
Speaker 2No, I get it pure yeah.
Speaker 1I get it the guy decided to have his scrotum force fed down his throat, so I feel like you'll get a not. But this is the weirdest thing though the fact that they do the ones that sleep like a baby when they have done something like that, that scares me. That actually scares me because literally, you never rated me. You're knee deep in that many lies, that many could be. She could blow up at any point and you're just sleeping.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is what it is. At that point he's like it is what it is.
Speaker 1Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's what it is deal with the consequences when it comes, yeah, yeah, they're not even be a secret of no more they don't care.
Speaker 1Listen I. I think that I'm very healthy and everything until until I let a man back into my life no, no, no for me, I'm just. Men can be healthy oh, of course they can. I've had, I've had good relationships there you go, 100, you will find but even when I've had a good relationship, what I'm saying is I can think I'm fully healed until I have a man in my life, and it's only when you're with somebody does it bring it bring out the best and worst no one's ever really gonna be healed.
Speaker 1Healed, you still have cause you're gonna constantly go through, constantly go through shit and get over it. Anyway, you're gonna have little hiccups in there but I feel like when I say healed, I mean like you are yourself aware. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2That's what it is. You're self-aware of your behavior. You're self-aware of what you want. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1If your good habits are bad and you can communicate. That that's really what I mean, but that's what I'm saying. How can you expect someone to communicate with you if you can't even communicate your own feelings? I feel like that do give other women a lot of chances and like stuff like that. But, to be fair, I'm a bit of a straight shooter now because for me anyway, like even with my own emotions and stuff like that, I went to therapy to become aware of my emotions so I can be very self-aware. I I take accountability.
Speaker 1When I've been a bitch, I'll. I will call myself a bitch. I'll be like nah, you know what I effed up, you know what I mean, but I don't. I've been a bitch, I'll. I will call myself a bitch. I'll be like nah, you know what I effed up, you know what I mean, but I don't. I've got coping mechanisms where I don't let myself get to that point anymore because I don't like who I am If I am like that type thing. But this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1Like everyone has that friend where they're like oh that, oh that's them like giving them allowance and stuff, because whatever they're like, they're actually doing that to someone else. It could be male or female yeah, that they're bullying in certain way and they're putting their problems onto them and we're just allowing it to happen. So, like I've lost friendships over just being a straight shooter, be like you're just not a nice person, or even saying, like, how you are right now it's not acceptable. And people that can't accept it, yeah, they'll go the other way, but that's fine, I don't care. But if the people that want to accept it and want to actually take that accountability, they'll still be in my life and I feel like, again, like men and women need to take accountability of how they're acting accountability is a strong word and not a lot of people have it anymore.
Speaker 2Yeah, man.
Speaker 1No one wants to be accountable for their shit. That's crazy. They'll make excuses. They'll be like, oh, but he did this to me. Or a guy will say that she did that to me or it was my past or whatever. Okay, cool, We've all got like you said. We've all got past trauma. Yeah, we're all healing. So what more like worse?
Speaker 2than mine kind of thing. We all have our own trauma. We just get through it in different ways. Yeah, I think. I think trauma, like I said, it creates like a viral moment or like people couldn't attach it more because it's emotions, and blah, blah, blah, because everyone says the best marketing strategy is to hit someone's emotions. So what do people do? What's the easiest thing to do? Just trauma dump or do whatever it is because it makes the room awkward.
Speaker 1But sometimes you just have to have you seen the girls that cry on TikTok?
Speaker 2yeah, it's mad. I hear the thing is I don't I don't fuck with TikTok, but like everyone around me has TikTok and like the only one that got me wrapped up was this woman from um, from america, and she it was like um, I don't know who. I married like take. One name was like take 167, other than that it was all trash man. But like it's crazy how much trauma is on tiktok. It's mad. Oh yeah, tiktok loves a trauma like they love it. I just don't get it.
Speaker 1I don't understand it but the girls that literally they're like what he used to be like and they're all smiling and hugging the man and whatever, and then there's the same person that made me like this on their bare board. You couldn't pay me to post them pictures, I couldn't do it, it's mad to pop my phone up like mid fucking crying and then continue while watching myself. It's just just a bit mad to me.
Speaker 2I just don't get it like you're actually recording yourself.
Speaker 1Great, that's bad there's such thing as oversharing, yeah, and people need to stop yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, facts, facts definitely you've never been in a tiktok hole no a tiktok dive. Where now would that literally a minute turns into an hour?
Speaker 2I'm not allowed to. I've probably done that with x oh.
Speaker 1Oh, I don't have X.
Speaker 2So I have, I have two, wow what are you watching on? X Everything. Man, nah, nah, nah, I might enter the. Or is it the football? Yeah, yeah, I might enter the whole. You know the X-ray part. Yeah, it's mainly football and all the conspiracy theories and that. Oh okay, I'm into space and all that, the philosophy and stuff, and sometimes you get some weird shit on there.
Speaker 1so yeah, that's me man oh no, I have a few friends that are addicted to TikTok and they just dive and they don't come out of it. Yeah, one of my friends actually had to put a limit on their TikTok use and what it is.
Speaker 2I think it it lessens everyone's attention span as well oh, attention span as well.
Speaker 1Oh, it's because of it. Yeah, yeah, it's not natural to be scrolling and be creasing one second crying the neck the dopamine's mad it's what's going on your brain. It's I mean, even I myself, like recently, I said like I need a. I'm online so much. It's like I just want just like a breather from like my phone and I can't lie to you.
Speaker 2Ever since I've started writing, right and what just? I just not just right, okay. So, um, at the moment I'm just doing a few things, so I'm just writing. Rather than like being on, like on the screens all the time, I'm physically just writing everything down, and that just makes everything a lot more easier in terms of, like, going online and tiktok and this that I'm just writing, writing when I write music and I like to write it like I know a lot of people just go to notes app.
Speaker 1I don't feel, feel like I'm creating, I don't know. I don't know what it is. It's just so different when I'm writing down the lyrics and I'm pouring onto a page versus I'm just it's not the same. Yeah, it really is, and I love my handwriting as well.
Speaker 2Like I was saying, mine is terrible. Like I have to teach myself to write like this sometimes, or because if I write like this it's mad. Why? Because it just creases.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, your hand rubs against the paper.
Speaker 2Exactly, exactly, it's a lot of art, man.
Speaker 1Well, that was almost two hours, guys. Let us know what you think of the show and plug your socials for the people. Oh, it's Chanel, scott. One Is my is my instagram s-h-a-n-e-l-l-e. Scott, with two t's, one that was articulated like that I heard every, every sound like you can tell you're an english teacher.
Speaker 1Just run that alone. That's good, had all the practice in there. But yeah, um, but yeah. I love the show. Like it's my third time being here, so officially irregular, officially irregular, um, I'll be pouring myself a drink next time. Won't have the hospitality of someone doing it for me, you know, make yourself at home and stuff but um yeah, no it.
Speaker 1It's been great talking to you too. I feel like we've been talking about some good topics and I feel like I'm vented enough I can go home and sleep well tonight yeah, that's it, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 2Different dynamics with me and um me and it's man, but it's yeah, thank you for having me. I appreciate it I appreciate it, man, and obviously everyone just like and comment as well. Make sure you get.
Speaker 1You're not gonna plug your socials. No man, you don't want to plug it you know what?
Speaker 2all right, I am kian james. Shout on there. That's all my. All my photography work, key visuals is in the workings, so yeah, just keep. I am Keon James. Get locked into that one.
Speaker 1Yeah, and I'm missing. My YouTube is really the only one that I care about, guys and you basically we're not. Now run like a 91.5K at TechTelius yeah, man, we're so close.
Speaker 2We're so close get that silver plaque man 100%.
Speaker 1I'll be so cool when I get the plaque.
Speaker 2I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 1I'm going to do a whole photo shoot.
Speaker 2It's not if it's a when man it's a when.
Speaker 1It's a when.
Speaker 2Manifestation this is it that's it.
Speaker 1That's it, but yeah, if you've been watching. Thank you very much. This is.
Speaker 2Cancel Culture.
Speaker 1Podcast, podcast. It's not as bright today and, yeah, if you're not already, to what? What does he say? Hold on, let's try. Subscribe, subscribe to subscribe, subscribe to subscribe yeah, I hope you've enjoyed the show um as your replacement host for today, living it, loving it so yeah, big up, guys.
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