Tim Westwood Charged! UK Digital ID coming SOON! CC EP 169

Tim Westwood Charged! Digital ID’s Are Coming SOON!
Tim Westwood, the former BBC DJ, has officially been charged with four counts of r*pe a shocking development that has reignited one of the most divisive debates in modern culture: false allegations and trial by media. Before a single piece of evidence is examined in court, millions online have already decided he’s guilty. In this clip, the hosts break down how the justice system is losing its meaning in the age of social media, where narratives move faster than truth. They discuss how careers, reputations, and lives can be destroyed in a matter of hours by headlines designed to trigger outrage rather than inform.

This conversation doesn’t just focus on Westwood’s case it exposes the deeper cultural pattern. Why are men instantly condemned while accusers are rarely held accountable when the claims turn out to be false? The hosts connect this to a wider societal shift where fear of being labeled “problematic” or “misogynistic” stops people from questioning the story. The discussion then expands to how public outrage is used as a distraction from larger forms of control particularly the growing push toward Digital ID systems. These systems promise safety and convenience, but what they really offer is surveillance, data tracking, and the erosion of personal freedom.

The hosts ask an uncomfortable but necessary question: is this all part of a bigger plan to condition society into obedience? Whether it’s through media manipulation, censorship, or new technology, it feels like control is tightening on every front. When you combine false allegations that destroy reputations overnight with digital systems that track your every move, you start to see a world where freedom is conditional granted only to those who comply. Watch the full episode for the complete discussion on justice, truth, and the slow collapse of privacy in the modern world.

Transcript

Westwood Allegations And Doubt

SPEAKER_10 0:00

Tim Westwood's been caught.

SPEAKER_05 0:02

Nowadays you can accuse everyone of everything.

SPEAKER_10 0:04

Whoever dates black women shouldn't get into a serious relationship until they see her without her wig.

SPEAKER_05 0:09

I don't discriminate over the race, I like thick women.

SPEAKER_11 0:11

I ain't gonna lie, but I think 70% of people that say they're buys all catman, sort of cat.

SPEAKER_10 0:15

And you know, lesbian relationships are very abusive.

SPEAKER_11 0:17

Because they smash each other up. We know this. It's seen as cool.

SPEAKER_10 0:20

Every time a woman sleeps with a guy, that guy takes a piece of her soul away. Have you ever seen a woman with a high body count when she looks soulless? Women love to say men fuck anything, but women fuck anything with money.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

How many people do you think have died from the vaccine and it's been marked as a COVID death? I know that at least one of those people was kicked in the head by a horse and marked as COVID. Digital ID means that they can say to you, sorry, you wrote something on social media, so you're not allowed to have all of your money this week. Yeah?

SPEAKER_11 0:49

I don't get like that. Tim Westwood TV. Tim Westwood TV. Nah, listen, listen. Tim Westwood. There's been things just dangling over him for Whoa. Yeah, dangling. I'm gonna say it, what? All these things, these rumors, these accusations. For a minute. They've been dangling on me for a little bit. But they finally got him.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

They they got there in the end. Tim Westwood's been caught.

SPEAKER_11 1:19

They finally got him. Now, I'm gonna be honest. My instinctual reaction to this is that I don't know anymore. I don't know if they're telling the truth. I don't know if he's telling the truth. There's that much um fake allegations that I just don't know anymore. So when I see it, I'm just neutral in the whole thing because I actually don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:38

I get it. What can you do?

SPEAKER_11 1:39

I'm just like, maybe you did.

SPEAKER_04 1:41

Maybe you didn't.

SPEAKER_11 1:41

But then at the same time, you know, I I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like he's not very flirty, touchy. You know, he might be. But does that necessarily mean that he's done that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:54

I'm just saying that's a lot of decades. That's that's that's a that's a that's a very, very long time. Is that longer than than Kelly? Yeah, it's longer than Kelly, isn't it?

SPEAKER_11 2:04

The years, yeah. Yeah, was it 19? What?

SPEAKER_09 2:06

1983.

SPEAKER_11 2:08

1983. He said 1983, so that's a long time. What do you think about the DJ the Tim Westport thing? You're quite opinionative. Are you just are you just neutral like me?

SPEAKER_10 2:18

I only I only saw it today, so I don't know much about it. Yeah, he's been accused basically, you know. Of what grip? Yeah, I don't know much. I've only seen it today.

SPEAKER_11 2:27

I don't know much either. I'm just saying my instinct is I think it was four counts, right? Yeah, I'm just saying I don't know anymore.

SPEAKER_04 2:33

But over the years, they've been trying to get him for a minute now, and then it's like this ain't the first time we've heard this. Yeah, I think it's the this now it's comma light, but for a long time now they've been talking about Tim Westwood, so that's why they caught him off radio in the first place. Let's get delayed. Apparently he quit.

SPEAKER_05 2:47

Can someone breathe the story? Because I don't know who we are talking about.

SPEAKER_11 2:49

I'm gonna update it so we're talking about Tim Westwood, right? He's been accused of four counts of great.

SPEAKER_05 2:53

And who is he?

SPEAKER_04 2:54

He's like an old school DJ, he's a he was a DJ music presenter, yeah, once upon a time for BBC on one extra.

SPEAKER_11 3:03

He was our Charlie Slough.

SPEAKER_05 3:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 3:06

Do you know Charlie Slough?

unknown 3:07

No.

SPEAKER_11 3:07

Okay, um, famous DJ, you know?

SPEAKER_05 3:11

David Getta.

SPEAKER_11 3:12

Yeah, he was our David Getter. Basically. So listen, I want to get the lady's opinion. Now, as a as a as a as a man, I'm saying I don't know anymore because there's that many false allegations going around, and the definition of grape in itself has changed, and that's why I'm just not sure.

SPEAKER_05 3:30

So, what do we know as facts?

SPEAKER_11 3:33

That is a bit creepy. That he's creepy, he's a little bit creepy, yeah.

False Claims, Evidence, And Neutrality

SPEAKER_05 3:37

Is he creepy as nancy or I can't distinguish that.

SPEAKER_11 3:42

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 3:43

I can't give you an opinion because if we don't have any facts.

SPEAKER_04 3:46

The rumors were that he uh back in the day, he'd like to be around the younger crowd.

SPEAKER_05 3:54

Yeah. And do we have evidence for it?

SPEAKER_04 3:56

I haven't got evidence, but uh clearly somebody does to be trying to take him to um to court currently.

SPEAKER_05 4:03

If we don't have evidence and there's no court case, then it's just an accusation, it's just an accusation. I mean anyone nowadays you can accuse everyone of everything, but if you don't have evidence, that's just malicious intent.

SPEAKER_11 4:17

We were talking before the cameras, man. Defamation. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. We were talking for the cameras. That's a very logical answer you've given, and I can respect it. Right? What about you in the middle?

SPEAKER_01 4:31

I don't really have a big opinion on it because I only heard about it last night. Yeah, I knew him, I knew of him growing up.

SPEAKER_11 4:38

Whoa, because you had to correct that because you knew it.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Yeah, I knew of him. I I hadn't heard those rumours, which I seem to be in the minority because when I've looked online, the comments are there's gonna be way more, there's this, there's that.

SPEAKER_12 4:51

So it's been it's been festering for a bit.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

I feel like historical cases, I don't know. Would someone really hold on it onto it for that long and fake a case this far down the line?

SPEAKER_12 5:03

Like I don't know. Would they for a bit of money? Would they no?

SPEAKER_11 5:13

Get the bag, get the bag with the man for 10 years, get the bear kind of thing. Got a boyfriend, went back to the person who graped, had sex with him twice. I mean, I mean your man FaceTimed you while you was in bed with him and you declined it. You answered this question on oath, on stage, and said, Yes, Your Honor, that's correct. Will people hold on it for 10 years? I would say yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

I suppose everything's a possibility. I I I'm not bad-minded like that, so yeah.

SPEAKER_11 5:38

I'm new, like I said, I'm neutral. I'm like, I don't know. But I think in today's world it's it's on the internet, so it's true.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

I feel like the sad thing is there's so that recently there's a lot of women coming to light that they've done it, and that then makes us question. That's more that's that's the whole thing, you know. That's why these women shouldn't do it. Of course. Anyone would no, there's loads of reasons why they shouldn't do it, but especially that because women, women, women be lying. But we don't know, there might be evidence, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:12

But we don't know about evidence, so for now there's none. Yeah, which is actually very sad for people that actually got essayed in the past and are actual victims. The victims, the words I was looking for, because that's just not fair. If you're accusing someone and have no evidence of it, that's actually a victim somewhere, and they are not being treated seriously because there's just too much disinformation.

Online Outrage And Double Standards

SPEAKER_11 6:38

I can agree with that. Intros back again, back again. We are it's gonna be part of the furniture now. I don't mind. You know, what's it third episode? Yeah, you know what? I I like him, man. I like him, man, right? Because he he he speaks similar to myself. So sometimes, right? I don't always want to be the viral guy. I don't I don't want to always be the bad guy, you know what I mean? You don't want to speak English. I don't want to be the guy carrying the bad guy torch all the time. Sometimes, yeah, it's alright, it's fun. But then I can I feel like I can just rely you to tell her to shut the fuck up. I don't care. That's what I mean. Because you don't give a fuck, like you know what I'm saying? So I like that, but introduce that for those don't know, name, age, what you do for living relationships like us.

SPEAKER_10 7:14

Yeah, Jay Omar Silgin, 27 years old, e-commerce, and I can't be tamed. Basically, done basically simple, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 7:24

So basically, he will cheat on you, basically he will tell you, he'll tell you, and you'll shut up and you'll sit down. You gotta next in line, you've been back. I mean, the real furniture to be fair, the real furniture, right? This has gotta be right ten. Yeah, she's like gotta be 10 at least now. No idea.

SPEAKER_04 7:41

She's the arms to the sofa.

SPEAKER_11 7:43

One of my most viewed clips as well, you know, talking about meat, talking about meat.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

She always talks about meat.

SPEAKER_11 7:50

My favorite subject. Meat's his favorite subject, right? 1.3 million views on Instagram, I believe. So clearly, you guys like listening about meat. They do.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

Did you ever look at the shared ones though?

SPEAKER_11 8:02

Uh, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 8:03

One of them shared videos that other people posted had 6.5 million.

SPEAKER_11 8:07

Oh, I think you might have sent it me or screenshotted it.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

No, but there was quite a few.

SPEAKER_11 8:11

Yeah, because um what's it? Uh Sean, Sean Bell. Sean, when he done it, he went he went crazy.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

He's posted it about three or four times now.

SPEAKER_11 8:19

Well, for people who don't know, name, age, where do you feel living? Relationship status.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

I'm Rachel, I'm 42, and I don't like to discuss relationship status because I've got some crazies.

unknown 8:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 8:32

She got them crazy crazies.

SPEAKER_11 8:34

Translation. Because there is a translation.

SPEAKER_01 8:39

That's a translation better. No, I don't belong to the. You know, you know me better than that. Enough of that.

SPEAKER_11 8:44

Does she deserve it? To be fair, I'm gonna be honest. No cre I've not seen any criminating activities or information. So I can I can second that. And you won't. I can second that. So that's fair. That's fair. Yeah, last but not least, you're new to the show.

SPEAKER_05 9:00

Hi, yes. Hi, first time.

SPEAKER_11 9:02

We've had an interesting start off of camera.

SPEAKER_05 9:05

We did, yeah. We're here now.

SPEAKER_11 9:07

Yeah, we're here now, and I'm sure we're gonna get into more debates, you know, with the lights and the glitz and the glamours on, everything's recorded. Yeah, well, for those who don't know you, name, age.

SPEAKER_05 9:16

My name's Franca, I'm 27. And I'm Polish.

SPEAKER_11 9:20

Polish.

SPEAKER_05 9:21

Can I tell you about myself? I do a lot of things. I'm a dance instructor, professional dancer, I'm an actress, I do modeling as well, and I have a regular job too.

SPEAKER_11 9:30

What do you do?

SPEAKER_05 9:31

Uh as a regular job?

SPEAKER_11 9:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:33

I'm an uh meetings and events operations supervisor. I coordinate weddings and conferences.

SPEAKER_11 9:38

Oh, how does that make you feel?

SPEAKER_05 9:41

Well, I'd say it is what it is, you know. I need to pay my bills myself, so and I don't know only fans, that's why I have to do a regular job.

SPEAKER_11 9:49

Oh would you say you do soft only fans though? No, soft core fans.

SPEAKER_05 9:55

Because my platform is to gain students for dance classes, not soft core fans, not male validation, is what I would say.

SPEAKER_11 10:03

We'll get back to that.

SPEAKER_13 10:04

Relationships there.

SPEAKER_05 10:06

Uh I'm single.

SPEAKER_11 10:07

Single. Okay. It's listen.

SPEAKER_13 10:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 10:10

Listen.

SPEAKER_13 10:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 10:12

It's just part of the show, yeah. So I'm gonna have to pretend she belongs to the screen.

SPEAKER_13 10:16

Yeah, it might not even be true, but I think it is. I mean, I don't know. I can't really, I can't we can't convince it.

SPEAKER_05 10:22

I actually I actually am very conservative on that part. I don't sleep with people I'm not in a relationship with.

SPEAKER_12 10:27

Okay. You go to a queen, okay. Yeah, conservative. To a queen with morals, interesting.

SPEAKER_05 10:36

Yeah, I also I also you never ask if I'm heterosexual.

SPEAKER_11 10:42

Do you like men or women?

SPEAKER_05 10:44

Um my focus currently is on women.

SPEAKER_11 10:46

Oh man, fair, fair.

SPEAKER_05 10:51

No, but I I like both men and women, but do you like mixed-race women then? Yeah, I like I don't discriminate over Let's move on. I don't discriminate over the race, I like thick women.

SPEAKER_11 11:03

You like thick women?

SPEAKER_05 11:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_11 11:04

Okay, what how thick?

SPEAKER_05 11:05

What what should I show you with my hands?

SPEAKER_11 11:09

You actually, right now, with evidence nearby, could show with your hands.

SPEAKER_04 11:17

Oh, you like curly women. Yeah, you like it.

SPEAKER_10 11:20

Yeah, I've just came back from Jamaica and oh you oh, where did you go in Jamaica?

SPEAKER_05 11:26

I've been in Montego Bay, I've been in Kingston and Nochi Rios.

SPEAKER_10 11:30

Okay. I just got back from Negrill.

SPEAKER_05 11:32

Negrill, okay. That's a touristic place though. I've been staying with locals.

SPEAKER_10 11:35

Really?

SPEAKER_05 11:36

Yeah, I lived in New Kingston for the longest time. I've been going where the regular people go. I was I went there alone, just me.

SPEAKER_11 11:43

Any twerk tips?

SPEAKER_05 11:45

Did you get from twerk tips? Yeah. No, no, really. I took classes of dance hub. Not twerk.

SPEAKER_04 11:50

Sorry, you so you went by yourself?

SPEAKER_05 11:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 11:52

And for all those people that would fear going to Jamaica by themselves, can you make it?

SPEAKER_05 11:56

Do your research, but it's not as dangerous as people say. That's from my experience. I have I haven't seen any shooting, and I went to regular places where regular locals go. I didn't stay in called the resort at all. Um, everyone was super nice to me, really nice to me. I've never experienced this politeness in my life. Everyone on the street was polite. They were telling me even just to say, like, you look amazing. Some people ask me if I know where I'm going, if I'm safe. Uber drivers were asking me if can someone pick me up before I leave their car. It was like everyone was taking care of me. People that didn't know me, I felt really, really well taken care of. I made so many friends.

SPEAKER_11 12:38

I like that. Do you know what do you learn any pathway?

SPEAKER_05 12:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_11 12:41

Can you try it?

SPEAKER_05 12:42

Can you I I don't I don't like to speak it because all my friends laugh when I speak it. I know you're uncomfortable. But I understand full pathway. You can go full pathway to me. Really? And I'll, yeah, and I'll yes.

SPEAKER_11 12:56

Should we test that?

SPEAKER_05 12:57

I also, yeah, sure. I also like I've been dancing, dance car, and listening to it for five years. So also dancers.

SPEAKER_11 13:05

Do you dance? Would you take it notes?

SPEAKER_05 13:08

No, I just kind of got it with time, what that means.

SPEAKER_11 13:12

Okay. Well, as a descendant of the Jamaicans, we can I can talk a little bit of Patwa.

SPEAKER_05 13:17

Guan?

SPEAKER_11 13:18

Guan's a British Patw. Um, Wayado. You invited me, so oh wait, did she get it right? What does it mean? Don't say don't talk. What does it mean? She got it right back then. Now, what's she what does it mean? You know, it doesn't matter if you don't know.

SPEAKER_05 13:43

But I kind of go over the phone. What does it mean? What did you ask?

SPEAKER_11 13:47

Whyado?

SPEAKER_05 13:48

What am I doing?

SPEAKER_11 13:50

Okay, fair. Let's move on.

SPEAKER_05 13:51

I feel like you're going easy.

SPEAKER_11 13:52

Oh, yeah, a little bit, but I just wanted to, you know. But anyway, well, oh yeah, oh, I know Patua too. He's in there in the video.

SPEAKER_05 13:58

Can I try you then? Can I try you?

SPEAKER_11 14:00

Me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:02

What's Ukubit?

SPEAKER_11 14:03

What?

SPEAKER_05 14:03

What is Ukubit?

SPEAKER_11 14:05

Uko bit. No idea.

SPEAKER_05 14:09

Uku bit. You know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_11 14:12

What?

SPEAKER_05 14:13

Lickle bit. I know licobit. Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_11 14:18

Never heard of that of you. And I'm I'm that's crazy. We just say front. Front.

SPEAKER_05 14:23

There's like 20 ways of say a pumpum.

SPEAKER_04 14:25

Where's the yard dictionary? Oh, just the old thing.

SPEAKER_11 14:28

Can the yard dictionary see the Kingston. Anyways, moving on. Listen. Victoria Everest, right? So we're talking about, you know, fake allegations. We're talking about Tim Westwood TV.

SPEAKER_04 14:41

Tim Westwood, sorry.

SPEAKER_11 14:42

And then the allegations. And she's done an interview. Oh, did she? Now, my again instincts is um it's just a disgrace. But there was a guy who responded, right? And do we have that clip? Right? There was a guy. I don't know. Um since my pandering meeter was going off. I'm not sure. You're not sure. It was it was pandering. I think I feel like there was a bit of. But we're gonna watch it and see if you can if Key can get it off. Can we see some pandering here? But yeah, I think a lot of people's claims online, especially you know, some in the in the black communities, that we're not getting the same energy. No, yeah, we're not we're not getting that ginger jade. We're not getting that we're not getting that tick techy wig off energy, you know.

SPEAKER_04 15:26

Techie wig off energy. We're not getting it.

SPEAKER_11 15:28

We just want the energy the same.

SPEAKER_04 15:30

And we said it as well. We were advocates for y'all. We helped, we said, we said we were over the top. We didn't say everything you were saying was probably wrong, but we said he was over the top. We were advocates for you.

SPEAKER_11 15:39

Well, I actually said, because the feminist that I am, I actually said that I don't think anything's wrong with what he said because right, I I'm a firm believer of equality, and I believe that men and women are equal. So I don't think you've done anything wrong. You just spoke to her how that they were both talking to each other a bit reckless, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 15:55

So what do you believe in?

SPEAKER_11 15:57

I'm a firm feminist. You you are I believe in full equality, yeah. I believe in equality, yeah. Yeah, full equality.

SPEAKER_05 16:05

I believe men and women like 50-50.

SPEAKER_11 16:07

I believe in full equality. I believe that you can you they can do anything men can do. Okay, anything that's what Why are you lying? Huh? That's not you. Why are you lying?

SPEAKER_01 16:17

There's change, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_11 16:19

Yeah, chatbot. Since you both don't back exactly. Alright, so let's leave let's let's watch the that's a big difference, by the way. Is this the guy or who's this? Guy. Is this the guy who responded candy? I don't want to see this one yet.

SPEAKER_06 16:33

Ginger J to get him cancelled. Yo, I beg you read the room. When it came to Ginger J, it was black women who organized, galvanized, and led the charge. Where were you? Our sisters have been on the front lines of countless movement carrying emotional, social burdens that should have been shared. Where were you? Many black women think Victoria's apartment, very group of women that black men choose over them. The so-called attacks women that are glorified and prioritized. Yo, these are the gaps that black women have warned you about. The ones that weaponize femininity and proximity to whiteness that harms us all. Now, when one of those same women lies about something as serious as great, you expect black women to be the angriest on the front lines fighting the hardest. Why should they be the ones to carry the weight, especially when they've been ignored and dismissed for raising those same concerns that black women understand the danger here? Feeling like a set of a situation that could be used to easily discredit all women, especially black women, when they come forward with real experiences in a community that is already scarred with high rates of sexual assault. It's just gonna be so I don't believe her, man. Remember that thing that Victoria error is like yo, these girls are crazy, man. You can't trust them. This is not just frustrating, it is triggering. Yes, it ruins our life when we have been accused of something that we did not do any also.

SPEAKER_11 18:02

Alright, caught this, cut this, Keith, cut this. I just feel it's a bit of pandering, right? Because I actually looked into some of this, right? I looked into like um what I wanted to know because he was talking about you know, black women led revolution revolutions and stuff like that. Right. I did look a little bit into it, not too, not too deep, or a little bit, but what I did read is that the men were the ones that were difficult to contain because they will actually start a physical revolution, so they were the ones that had to actually be kept in check like that. Now, the women had their own things, it wasn't physical, they had like other things that they would do. But let's be real, the actual overthrowing of shit is done by the guys, like so. I don't know even know what it means by that in the first place. But what what I'm getting from the internet is that people are just saying, yo, to us that was a minor thing, and it got blue up, and then they wanted to shut him down, counsel him everywhere, comment everywhere, and then now we get this year, and it's like no one really cares. I haven't really seen much about it.

SPEAKER_04 18:57

Nah, I'm not gonna say that there hasn't been uh uproar. Women, there's not not the same as Ginger J. Not the same as Ginger J. That's the difference, though. It's not as loud, but women are speaking up. I'm not gonna say that a lot of the black female community haven't spoke up and says, Yeah, we don't really ride with this woman. A lot of the comments I'm seeing on some of the posts that people are reposting and doing their videos. I'm seeing a lot of comments that are against what she's done. But it I fully hear what you're saying. The the instant outrage, the unbiased outrage straight away is just not it's not there, it's not as loud.

SPEAKER_11 19:29

No one's I suppose what I'm trying to say is you see the level that they went with Ginger J. The level should be swapped. So the level we're getting for this accusation that should have been the level for Ginger J. And the Ginger J level should have been the level for this, what's going on now. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 19:44

Sorry, but could you briefly say what were the both cases? Because I'm not sure. Okay, I should be alright.

SPEAKER_11 19:50

Basically, Ginger J, this is a black community thing, but you seem like you're privy.

SPEAKER_04 19:53

You know, you speak Patois, so just come back from Jamaica or before you knew about Ginger J.

SPEAKER_05 19:57

Well, I was busy enjoying my time there.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

Uh-huh. That's fun. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_11 20:01

Shaking ass. Shaking ass. Um, but yeah, so Ginger J, he was on a show called Batlash. Have you ever heard of it?

SPEAKER_05 20:06

Uh, I saw a clip. Something rings a bell, but he said something about black women, something like that.

SPEAKER_11 20:13

He said something basically telling her to take her week off, and your hair's not real because you know, black people, black women, a lot of black men wear like fake hair. Uh-huh. And it was like an out roll about it. Now he lost his position on the pen game. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:26

He's been canceled. That's what happened.

SPEAKER_11 20:28

I don't know what the situation is. Oh, yeah, he lost his thing on the pen game.

SPEAKER_04 20:31

Yeah, that's what happened. This was after they was making a they made a song about it.

SPEAKER_11 20:36

Ah, we're saying, let's go, go on.

SPEAKER_10 20:39

What do you think? Huh? The guy upset because he said take off your wig, baby. See, this is a problem. Our people love getting emotional about everything, right? And to kick off a guy just for talking about wigs. What's that all about? The way you were talking, I'm thinking it's some grape accusation. Okay.

Sex, Value, And Post-Clarity Rules

SPEAKER_04 20:59

Let's put some more on there because it wasn't quite just the tech after wig comment. It was the out, it was the outburst that people tried to comment on. I think the tech after wig would have been would have been uh hurt but subtle. It would have been like, ah, why did you say that? But I think because he got caught afterwards with a big outburst, and he was very kind of triggered from that moment. That's what people then bit into.

SPEAKER_10 21:22

But he was triggered when people got at him for talking about the wig the company.

SPEAKER_04 21:26

Afterwards, yeah. So it's like he's now off main camera and got caught kind of slipping on a next camera. Now they're recording him while he's thinking he's not being recorded, and he's now venting. What was the is that words that he was saying now?

SPEAKER_11 21:40

I know, off camera. Off camera? Not sure about the off camera, but on camera, they were taking a piss out of him being cheated on. So he was hitting back in it. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Yeah, but he was basically saying that he doesn't date black women anymore. Oh, yeah, that was it.

SPEAKER_04 21:53

Yeah, he didn't want to date wrap.

SPEAKER_11 21:58

American or what's wrong with that? Nah, this is in English. Okay. What's wrong with that though? I don't see anything wrong with that. What's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_01 22:04

You see anything? I don't think there's anything wrong with having a chance.

SPEAKER_04 22:06

Everyone has a preference.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

There you go.

SPEAKER_04 22:07

Some people like big women, small women, some women like tall men, the 6'2 fucking chiseled, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 22:14

Like I would argue, whoever dates black women shouldn't get into a serious relationship until they see her without her whip. That's fact. I can't. You need to see her in a natural state of looking at it. I actually agree. I was just thinking of it. At some point, I date black women as well.

SPEAKER_04 22:31

No, facts it's true. Because at some point I'm gonna see you with that, you get me, that corn roll or whatever you got under there trying to hold it down. At some point, I'm gonna see you. We're gonna see you.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

So are you also gonna take the women to swim pool or something to see them without their makeup?

SPEAKER_04 22:46

Yeah, who said that? Somebody said that. Someone said the first day, was it China or did they of Kimana?

SPEAKER_01 22:53

I think China said it.

SPEAKER_04 22:54

Yeah, I can't remember, but they said on a first day, instead of going for food and that, let's just go swimming. Because then you have to you have to kind of you have to be in your full your full manner. You get me?

SPEAKER_05 23:04

You can't hide case. You might shave off the beard first so they know how you actually look like because beard is makeup for men. No, it's different.

SPEAKER_10 23:11

Yeah, but that's not true. I'm not sewing it. I'm not sewing my beard up. This is the difference. A makeup hides a woman's beauty, a trim reveals no homo, a man's beauty. There you go. Is it in hand?

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Um, it doesn't, but I would say then what as a woman needs to shave off her hair? You're going to those kinds of extremes. It's not going to work.

SPEAKER_12 23:31

No, but we're talking about artificial versus real version.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

So this is how I'm saying it doesn't matter about the beard, it matters more about the makeup and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 23:38

Well, some men have a beard that makes you not really know how they actually look like. How if the beard isn't if they're gonna keep the beard, they're never gonna see it. That's like saying if it's my hair to save it up so you can know what he does on the top of his head. I'm saying it doesn't make sense with that context. They end up having ugly kids and then like, how did that happen? And it turns out with his face.

SPEAKER_11 23:57

Well, you understand Patreon.

SPEAKER_05 23:59

What? Idiot. Nah, think about guys with like Dumbledore beards. Yeah. How does he actually look like?

SPEAKER_04 24:11

He looks like Dumbledore, because that's how he looks with his beard. You don't know who hasn't sewn his beard in to look different. So, what about the guy with the afro? What does he look like, bold?

SPEAKER_05 24:21

You might want to check.

SPEAKER_13 24:22

See, you're crazy.

SPEAKER_11 24:23

That's crazy, still.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

Hatsamens thing, not yeah, not beards.

SPEAKER_11 24:27

Oh, you can be a hatfish for sure. I agree with that. But yo, all I know is this. I've been doing this show what two years now, and I've seen some people that don't look the same as on there when they come on Instagram. So, you know, I can I can I can attend to that.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

Most people don't even chat shit.

SPEAKER_11 24:42

Most people 90% don't look like their Instagram. That's the truth.

SPEAKER_04 24:45

Come on, they're looking like painted ladies. Yeah, but um sick of it.

SPEAKER_11 24:49

Yeah, I just think it's preference. Swimming is the best first date. I think I think people should go swimming. That's that's good. You can see what they look like.

SPEAKER_04 24:55

I can see if you can swim. We need to survive if there's a flood. Shit.

SPEAKER_11 24:59

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 25:00

And they carry your ass everywhere and shit.

SPEAKER_11 25:02

Like, um, but what I would end on is just you know, the outrage is not quite balanced, in my opinion. In my opinion, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

So, what if your woman doesn't wear makeup? What date are you taking her on then?

SPEAKER_11 25:15

Any?

SPEAKER_04 25:16

She doesn't, it's green flag. You know why? Because if she's my woman and she don't wear makeup, that means I'm already attracted to you anyway, without makeup. I was attracted to you without the makeup. Oh, you guys don't like makeup at all. You mean I don't mind, I don't mind if you want to. I'm I'm not the same as him in that sense. I don't mind. If you want to be now, because yeah, you if you want to do what you're doing, you get me. Whatever you're doing to make you feel comfortable is going to make me feel happy because you're happy in it, you're doing what you need to do. Would I prefer a more natural woman 100%? Would I prefer you to be happy being natural? Definitely, but I would rather you just be happy, you know what I mean? Because then I'm not hearing that stress, then you're not bringing certain insecurities to me because you're always secure now, so you can be the best feminine for me. You get it? So I'm not really, I don't when it comes to hair and the makeup and all that, it doesn't really faze me too much as long as we can get on. Yeah, you get me.

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SPEAKER_11 26:08

You I've told many women out of there that you look better without makeup, if I'm completely honest. And I wasn't just saying it, it was actually true. Oh there is that sometimes it's older. I don't know how they can't see it though. The way I say in my opinion, women are very a lot more insecure than men in it. As you know, contrary to the social media opinions.

SPEAKER_05 26:27

Yeah, I agree. This is true. Women are a lot more women have been always fed up with the media that they have to look certain way and that the looks really, really matter to them. I don't I don't think we're victims about like that.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

I think we are.

SPEAKER_11 26:39

Are you afraid with this? Just curiosity.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Like, no.

SPEAKER_11 26:42

Okay, fair enough. Um, not victims. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Uh I'm not a victim of anything. I don't day to day I don't wear makeup. I don't feel like I've got to do anything, be anyway.

SPEAKER_11 26:54

She's making out like society is the reason why women wear makeup, and that is absolutely the way.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

I think your mental capacity is the way you're gonna be behaving and the way you're gonna be putting. I feel like it's a mental health issue when women are using all these filters and nonsense. And actually, people are gonna see you in real life. At some point, that's what I mean. And then I I remember I went to, I think you were there actually. I went to this um event, and um someone nudged me and was like, you know, you know this woman's here. And I was like, no, she is not. I was looking around, where's it?

SPEAKER_11 27:25

Pell's was at the pod.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

No, it was her birthday.

SPEAKER_11 27:28

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Oh and um, I was looking around, I was like, no, she's not. That woman is not here. Looking around, looking around. And he had to actually point her out. I was like, no way.

SPEAKER_04 27:37

Right in front of you.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

And I think it's really bad, and I think it's detrimental to young people, old people, everyone, because everyone thinks, oh, that person's perfect, and you know, all these body things that I can't stand any of it. Like, just be yourself because you can only be yourself when you're seen in real life. So imagine turning up somewhere and everyone being purely disappointed that that isn't a good look.

SPEAKER_11 28:01

Simps and social media as destroyed, buried, destroyed there's a hell of a lot of simps out there, you know. I know there is, and this is the thing, like when I look honestly, right? When I started this show, I've changed so much. When I started this show, right?

SPEAKER_04 28:17

I was gonna say I was gonna say so. No, no, I was okay, right? I was gonna uh you can tell I've changed over the years.

SPEAKER_11 28:24

Yeah, but what I mean by that is that I was very, very, yes, go men, go men, and I am still goal men, but I used to think that a lot more people were like the me and the people that I know. You're disappointed, and I'm very disappointed because what they've done is essentially made fives believe that they're eights now, and that's crazy. Because if you believe you're an eight, you're gonna be looking for an eight and above, and you're not gonna he might sleep with you, don't get me wrong.

SPEAKER_04 28:49

He's gonna sleep. Oh, he'll definitely sleep with you. He'll sleep with you.

SPEAKER_11 28:52

Given, given, and even if given the opportunity, of course, he'll smash, you'll smash, but anyone that brags to me about any of this stuff, right? I just say to them this, right? Forget who's going to sleep with you. Yeah, as we know, men will sleep with a hole in the wall, right? Who wants to take you seriously? That's how I quit. So when many many a times people have come on the show bragging about their DMs and 100 DMs by this man, that man, dick pics, this, that no one cares, right? The reality is who wants to take you seriously? That is the real question. Yeah, that's the reality of it. That's the truth, right? And and fives think they're tens now. Wow, fives think they're eights and nines, which is crazy, and just fives think they're tens and it's and Rachel agrees.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

I do, I've seen it, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 29:39

Yeah, you'll be that's what even even uh threes, they're turns as well. No, but threes think they're sixes, which is even worse.

SPEAKER_12 29:48

No, threes think they're higher.

SPEAKER_10 29:49

No, you got people like sexy red now, bro. Oh, that's in them up, right? It's twisting their minds heavily. Do you know what I mean? That's actually true, that's true. So

SPEAKER_11 30:00

Nah, because there's people that actually like think she's like that. And I'm like, I'm looking what sexy red. Yeah, yeah. And that's my my opinion is nah. But some people think I think it might be because she's famous though.

SPEAKER_05 30:11

I've heard from a lot of men that sexy red is attractive. I don't see it like that. Like I I don't see her as a 10.

SPEAKER_11 30:17

What do you say?

SPEAKER_05 30:18

But I've heard so many men say that she's like super attractive.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

You know why? Are you saying she's not you know why? No, but it's the same concept of walking down the road with your woman and seeing a bimbo walk past you and still being attracted to the bimbo. Yeah, as a man, you are going to want to sexually deal with the bimbo. But the minute that that sexual notion's over, I no longer care about her. I'm back to reality. That post-mark clarity. Yeah, bro. That's all it is. That's it's don't want nothing to do with it. You are the only person I've had for at least three days. Exactly that. And that's all that is.

SPEAKER_11 30:49

Wait, who you know?

SPEAKER_04 30:51

I'm talking about post-mark clarity. Just men in general.

SPEAKER_11 30:53

Wait three days. Depends on the girl.

SPEAKER_10 31:00

You never had that wait three days intentionally. No, no, no, no, no, not intentionally. It just happened. Yeah, depends on the girl, but sometimes when you fuck a girl, yeah, you don't want to talk to them for a bit. No, I'm maybe three charges up during the time. I'm not don't I'm I'm that's biological though.

SPEAKER_11 31:17

Juring. I think juring. Not like just after, but that's biological.

SPEAKER_04 31:21

But that means you're attracted. You see, if you go back and you're still thinking like that, you're attracted, that's dead, bro. Because if we're talking about the same thing. So if I'm if I'm using a sexy red analogy right now, yeah, yeah, and I'm saying the men that are saying this to you, that are saying that she's attracted, are the ones that will sleep with her happily, they will not, they will do whatever with her. But you see, the minute that that's over, most men, I would hope, are like, ugh, like, yeah, I've I've got that away. That's over, accomplished amount. Some people forget.

SPEAKER_05 31:51

Why would men want to sleep with a woman and then forget about her? I don't understand.

SPEAKER_04 31:55

Because because that is unfortunately how testosterone and man's work. Like, I I can be walking down the road with my loving wife of many years and see breasts and arse hanging out as a woman's walking towards me with big lips. And in any other reality, I'm not I do not want to wife this type of woman. She's not attracted to me in that way at all. But sexually, she has all of the right things that turns my testosterone. So I want to now release my nuts into her and procreate.

SPEAKER_05 32:26

I'm scared of getting married now.

SPEAKER_04 32:28

Oh my god. That's terrible. No, marriages. That's actually winning.

SPEAKER_05 32:32

He just said he would walk with his wife and still think sexually of another man.

SPEAKER_04 32:35

No, but that does that let's. Well, hold on, hold on. No, no, no. No, but this is she needs a safe space. She needs a safe space. But this is why we're about to hit you with some truth. But this is why men are the strongest controllers of emotions on the planet. We will control that because that is one of the strongest and hardest things that we have to control is the impulse to now go and procreate with other women because of westernization, actually, you know, because it's just normal.

SPEAKER_05 32:58

Okay. If men are such strong at controlling emotion, do you actually think so? 100%. Okay. Well, to me, anger is also an emotion, and all the words on the world were caused my men. There's so many wars, and that's also very emotional. Yeah, I get it. Because a man got anger, he's like, nah, I'm gonna bump these people.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

There's a lot of emotional men. I'm not gonna dispute that. Can I go? That's what that's what prisons were mostly built for. Can I go?

SPEAKER_01 33:26

Vegans. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 33:28

I'm gonna break down a few.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

What about vegans? No, I'm gonna break down emotional men.

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SPEAKER_11 33:32

I'm gonna break down a few reasons why you're wrong. Um do we need a safe space? Yeah, I'm gonna convince you now. Yeah, oh yeah, we definitely need a safe space. Let's give it a second. Calm it down.

SPEAKER_04 33:45

I was about to, I was, I was there.

SPEAKER_11 33:46

First reason why you're wrong. Shit. How many men would you say is in the UK?

SPEAKER_05 33:51

Men?

SPEAKER_11 33:52

Men, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:53

Overall, all right.

SPEAKER_11 33:54

How many is in the UK in general?

SPEAKER_05 33:56

60 million. Is it 60 million?

SPEAKER_11 33:59

That's a good let's go with 60.

SPEAKER_05 34:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 34:00

Right, and let's assume half of that is men. So let's say 30 million. What do you think the prison population is?

SPEAKER_05 34:08

Good question. I don't know, but I heard that the Polish have like the biggest population in prisons.

SPEAKER_11 34:14

Maybe. Well, the point I'm trying to make is that if men 69 million. Fair.

SPEAKER_05 34:22

Good guess. Fair point.

SPEAKER_11 34:24

Again, let's just assume that 30 million, let's go 30 million. If if men were as violent as yours as you're saying, the prison the cases of assault in general and the the prison population, I would say, would be a lot more than what it is.

SPEAKER_05 34:39

I never said this sentence that you put in my mouth.

SPEAKER_11 34:42

You said that men are more emotional. Is that not what you were arguing?

SPEAKER_05 34:45

No, I think I said if you think that men are so good at controlling emotion, why are all worse covered by men?

SPEAKER_11 34:52

Not all worse. Do you think there's more men that want to smash someone's head and then don't then smash someone's head in when they feel like smashing someone's head in? Do you think that there's more men that will not do it or men that's not?

SPEAKER_05 35:03

No, but I think that more men than women tend to want to smash someone else's head.

SPEAKER_11 35:08

Of course, we got testosterone, of course. Hence why we have to control it. But you've just checked mated yourself. Because if there's more men that want to smash their head and then don't, that means we're better at controlling it. Of course.

SPEAKER_05 35:19

Yeah, but still there's more men that would do it than women.

SPEAKER_11 35:22

No, there isn't. No, this is. Oh, more men than women.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

Yeah, because we have to start, we've just expected.

SPEAKER_11 35:28

I disagree. I kind of disagree with that as well. I actually think women are more violent than men.

SPEAKER_04 35:32

Women are, is that because of their um um emotions and their hormones that you can't control?

SPEAKER_05 35:38

93% of murderers are men.

SPEAKER_11 35:41

All right. I'm gonna explain what I mean by why I think that they're more violent. Women are a lot more violent than men, or as violent as men, but they show violence in a different way. Women are more prone to attack your reputation rather than physically attack you because they can't physically attack you. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 35:56

Okay, so they're they're saying they're verbally aggressive.

SPEAKER_11 35:59

Yes, so it's a it's not physical aggression, but it's definitely aggression.

SPEAKER_04 36:03

It's mental, it's mental.

SPEAKER_11 36:05

Do you know what I mean? They and they have to be like that because they physically, you know, you have to use a different way of getting physical.

SPEAKER_05 36:12

How about the fact that way more men commit suicide than women?

SPEAKER_10 36:16

Yeah, but look at the stressing us out. Stop stressing us out, and we're gonna go jump up the world we live in puts down, man. You don't even surprise men delete themselves, although I don't agree with it, right? But I'm not surprised. Look at the world we live in. Feminism's everywhere, constantly putting men down. All the time. Young boys grow up, they grow up with no masculine role models. The ones we know of, they don't really see like that, you know. And now, look at, for example, Marvel, right? We had Iron Man, now it's fucking Ironheart, yeah, yeah. It's some little girl doing all the shit Tony Heart does. Everything's been done. That's not a bad thing. It's true. The bad thing is when there's no masculine one there. Yeah, nothing. And some people were saying, yeah, it's in the comics, but right, if you're gonna add all this feminism shit to these Marvel movies, why not just add more masculine shit at the same time you're gonna have both?

SPEAKER_05 37:08

You know, I think this is projected in media now because for the longest time it's been a lot about men and they just want to encourage some girls. But I would like to ask you, how do you think that feminism is negatively affecting men?

SPEAKER_10 37:20

Because you men get it, for example, wait, wait, hold on, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_05 37:25

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_11 37:27

Men and women, I need her to go. It might be better, women doesn't go on.

SPEAKER_05 37:31

Um I'm curious. No, just is trash terrible. I was joking about being a feminist, by the way, but she can now feminism done for women.

SPEAKER_01 37:42

Um I'm just asking, but I'm asking what's feminism done for women? Well, you're asking a question for the question that feminism uh started out as an agenda because they wanted to tax two people in the house.

SPEAKER_05 37:54

My question is what are the negative and I don't understand why you asking me as if I'm a feminist. No, I'm just asking to point out the negatives of feminism on men. Because I'm literally curious what you think that is.

SPEAKER_11 38:08

Okay, I can go, but you do want to go? You were gonna go, so you might as well go.

SPEAKER_10 38:12

So, yeah, feminism was created to uh get women in the workforce. What does that do, right? That separates a family unit because you know, before men could provide for their families, just them, the women could stay home, look after the kids, raise them, blah blah blah. Now, what you see is women also working, everything's gone up. Most men can't afford to look after the whole household by themselves. That puts women in a masculine role. When you put women in a masculine role, it never works out because now that guy, whoever is with her, yeah, he doesn't have full control of the relationship or marriage. He can't lead it to his fullest extent.

SPEAKER_04 38:57

Sorry, not just that with what you said earlier. Um, the men as role models, because they were going out every day to work, the women was at home, the kids would see that as a dynamic. Yeah. So then they would then follow that into their life when they now grow up and they're now ready to have their families. They would now follow that trait. That's how families were staying together because it was easily trained. Dad would go to work, mums was at home looking after the kids. The minute that feminism got involved, the whole family dynamic got blown open. You had to go to work, I had to go to work. Our child now gets brought up by the school system, the curriculum, whoever writes that, whatever they're teaching in schools these days, we don't get to see that because we're so busy trying to now pay the bills and the extra tax now that we're both now giving out.

SPEAKER_05 39:44

I agree with your points, actually. That's a that's a valuable point because I've been raised in a family where women were at home. My both grandmas were I was raised by my grandparents, and both my grandmas were housewives, and both my grandmas had their own companies, and this is what I know at home, and I like that. And I wanted to be what my grandmas were.

SPEAKER_11 40:03

Do you believe that they belong in the kitchen?

SPEAKER_05 40:06

I wouldn't say that. That's like that's not the nicest thing to say.

SPEAKER_11 40:09

Why is it not nice to be in the kitchen?

SPEAKER_05 40:11

I think um I think that being the housewife is a very, very hard job.

SPEAKER_11 40:15

To be fair, I'm wrong because there are parts, there are other parts of the house as well. So not just the kitchen, the garden as well.

SPEAKER_05 40:20

Yeah, it's like I think that being a housewife is a very, very hard job.

SPEAKER_10 40:24

And not in today's society, the technology we have allows whoever to clean it at a much faster rate and get things done.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

So before technology, what technology?

SPEAKER_10 40:35

Have you heard of a Dyson?

SPEAKER_04 40:37

Yeah, obviously, but that image loses no suction. I mean, if that's no, they do I've got Dysons.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

I've got free Dysons.

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SPEAKER_10 40:50

Air fryers cooks almost anything. You can even put a time. So before I used to take women probably the whole day or the majority of the day to clean the whole house, do the laundry, make a meal, was done.

SPEAKER_04 41:02

You know, you can even buy a robot that actually vacuums like yeah, like that little circle.

SPEAKER_11 41:06

Do you really think it's do you really think that? Do you really think that like it's harder now?

SPEAKER_01 41:10

It's harder now. I didn't say it's harder now. I'm not saying it's easy though, it's definitely not easy. Don't think so.

SPEAKER_12 41:16

Just go get some steak from Tesco and just in 2025.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Yeah, obviously, if if you're George Foreman and like my diet, then it's super easy. You just chuck the steak on. But when you're looking after a family, it it is hard.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

We didn't have chicken nuggets back in the day. Look, now you got chicken nuggets, dinosaurs, shaping. Chicken nuggets, I don't most of the nation. I'm just saying that these days, bro.

SPEAKER_11 41:37

Man had a my nan had a family of like I think there's like seven, six, six, six, seven holy children. Yeah, and mine's like a thing for it, yeah. Ten you just make a big pot of corrigole and some rice, and you that's it, and that's it for the week.

unknown 41:49

Yeah, I don't know why.

SPEAKER_04 41:52

It's Wednesday, we're hungry, you better go to that fridge.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

You're oversimplifying it. So I do I do I I get where you're going with this, yeah, and I'm with you on that part, but you're oversimplifying it. A woman's role is hard, and I'm not saying it's harder than a man's role. No, no, hold on, it's a different hard.

SPEAKER_11 42:07

We're specifically talking about just the house thing.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Just the house.

SPEAKER_11 42:10

Yeah, we're not talking about the over because I believe this is what this thing, you've I've been tricked into believing that your role is everything. If anything, your role is more important than the men because it's your job to take what he said last week, to take what it is that the men believe in, install it into the children, and that's one of the hardest things to do.

SPEAKER_04 42:29

Not just that, encourage the man to be able to steal stay on that drive.

SPEAKER_10 42:33

You have to protect the kids from all this fucking shit you see on TV.

SPEAKER_01 42:36

But imagine that was the most important thing. Imagine so many men now are looking at these empty women and then having babies with these empty women and then wondering why they're not having the best outcome for their children.

SPEAKER_10 42:48

No, but the different. What do you mean by empty women?

SPEAKER_01 42:51

The ones that are full of makeup filters, them soulless water that don't really know how to be a real woman.

SPEAKER_04 42:57

The ones that we say we're not attracted to, but really we end up putting procreating with. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 43:02

We do do that. Oh no, it's not a mistake. We need hoes, right? Hoes have been around for a very long time. Medieval generation. Actually, a long time. You can't have every woman as a wife immaterial woman, you know even though I love wife and material women, I'm posed.

SPEAKER_11 43:21

The ratio's off now.

SPEAKER_10 43:22

Oh, yeah, the ratio is off.

SPEAKER_11 43:23

Like the ratio is off now. Like there's more hoes than non-holes. So it's difficult.

SPEAKER_01 43:28

Yeah, because you've got women that want to behave like men a lot of like a hell of a lot of women want to behave like men, and we're not meant to be that way. You're not meant to sleep around, you're not meant to do all that stuff.

SPEAKER_10 43:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

Would you say that men are meant to sleep around?

SPEAKER_10 43:41

Yeah, yeah. We're the whole matrix.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

Men and women are very different. They are very different. I don't I don't think that men should cheat personally. Um I always understood I've never ever asked a man for his body count because I don't want to know it. But while he's with me, I expect him to be loyal.

SPEAKER_11 44:00

I know you said you're not a feminist, man, but you are man. I can I can hear it by your talking points, unless you're generally just trying to get information.

SPEAKER_05 44:07

Which I don't think.

SPEAKER_11 44:09

No, your questions are more like I believe this, but let me ask it in a qu in a question.

SPEAKER_05 44:13

No, I'm I'm legitly like curiously. Do you think men and women are the same? No, I think they are very different.

SPEAKER_11 44:19

Alright, so do you think men are can do you think men, a man sleeping around is the same as a woman sleeping around?

SPEAKER_05 44:24

I I disagree with it both ways. Yeah, I don't think a man should sleep around as well. Because why do you did you find your willy in the rubbish?

SPEAKER_11 44:33

That wasn't my question.

SPEAKER_05 44:35

Why are you putting it everywhere? No, my question.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

Pum pum is not rubbish, so it's not as well.

SPEAKER_10 44:41

Depends.

SPEAKER_11 44:43

Gotcha, bitch. Gotcha, bitch. But my question was do you think it's the same? No, it's not the same.

SPEAKER_05 44:53

Uh, as men and women sleeping around, yeah. Yes, I yes, I think it's both wrong.

SPEAKER_10 44:59

No, every time every time a woman sleeps with a guy, that guy takes a piece of her soul away. Have you ever seen a woman with a high body count when she looks soulless? Her eyes have all these crazy bags, there's no glow in them. It's because she slept with a lot of dudes and they all took a piece of her soul until she's soulless. Not just that they entered piece of their soul into it. When she gets with a guy who actually gives a shit about her, more than just sex, she can't get attached to him. Spirit's gone. It's over. And it's easier for her to leave him if there's an argument or to cheat. So that's why sleeping with a lot of dudes for women is very bad.

SPEAKER_05 45:37

So why isn't it bad for men?

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SPEAKER_10 45:39

Because for men, most of the time, nearly all of the time, when men sleep with a lot of women, they don't lose their soul, they don't lose like that glow. It keeps going. And if anything, they actually gain a lot of experience with women.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

It's not just that, it actually makes you healthy, bossing you not, sorry to have to say.

SPEAKER_10 45:58

Yeah, because it releases oxytocin, and that helps a lot of things. One thing it helps with is acne as well. The oxytocin release.

SPEAKER_05 46:07

Yeah, I don't agree with this sole thing.

SPEAKER_04 46:09

And not just that. We were built, so hold on, we were built differently. We we were built to be able to procreate. Like we are built to be able to sleep with many women in a very short period of time.

SPEAKER_05 46:20

I mean, that is true biologically, because men go for quantity, women go for quality.

SPEAKER_04 46:25

No, it's not that your body's just not built to have multiple entries.

SPEAKER_10 46:30

I don't even think women go for quality. I was just about to say I don't think that's true. Women love to say men fuck anything, but women fuck anything with money. Money, yeah. 100%. If it was a fucking horse that had a bag and would look after her and her family's life, bro, she fucked all apart. Even some women who fuck horses.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

I think it's a difference. That's that's a bad woman. That's not a good woman. Come on, she's not horse. I would I would never.

SPEAKER_04 46:55

Yellow at your fucking Drewski happily saying, Oh my god, he's so sexy. He's got money. He got money. If Drewski was brought money, I'll be looking at Drusky.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

I don't even know who Drewski is.

SPEAKER_05 47:04

The fat ugly guy.

SPEAKER_04 47:08

Kodak Black.

SPEAKER_05 47:09

Who? Huh?

SPEAKER_04 47:10

Kodak Black.

SPEAKER_05 47:11

Kodak Black? Yeah. What is it?

SPEAKER_04 47:13

He's an artist. Never.

SPEAKER_05 47:14

Oh, ew. There's disgusting one. He's the ugliest rapper I've seen in my life.

SPEAKER_04 47:18

You guess, girl? What about all them ones that are like, ooh, Kodak's nice? What about them girl there?

SPEAKER_05 47:23

I don't know. I don't know any girl that says that.

SPEAKER_04 47:25

There's a lot of girls that say that. I don't think Kodak would have to do that.

SPEAKER_01 47:27

Yeah, but everyone has their own preference. Some people might be attracted to the bigger. You might like rigor more.

SPEAKER_11 47:34

Dare say something in absolutely ridiculous. Again, you've been on the show multiple times. If he was broke, would he be getting bitches, yes or no?

SPEAKER_01 47:43

I think you're using a bad example. So I think a better example would be an older man. Because some people would preference an older man that's like about to die.

SPEAKER_04 47:52

But what's the one?

SPEAKER_01 47:54

I'd say that'd be a better example.

SPEAKER_04 47:56

But what is okay? Bill Gates right now.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

Oh hell ugly.

SPEAKER_04 48:00

Elon Musk?

unknown 48:01

No.

SPEAKER_04 48:02

No, Elon Gail will see with Elon now. Gail's just remating my bro. Yeah, Elon looks after himself, but Bill Gates right now, then why looking like David Attenbrown steads, bro? Bro, Bill Gates right now.

SPEAKER_11 48:13

Elon Musk is not a guy, bro. Come on, let's be real now, please. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_04 48:18

Get him like Elon, bro. Elon's.

SPEAKER_11 48:20

Because he's the richest man on the planet, that's his point.

SPEAKER_04 48:22

No, but my point is that Elon's not like I wouldn't class Elon and and Bill as the same when we're talking about the big thing. I'm trying to make money.

SPEAKER_11 48:28

The money is the great equalizer, is the point I'm trying to make.

SPEAKER_04 48:32

Yeah, we that's basically the point. Come on.

SPEAKER_11 48:34

Let's pretend he was a normal guy.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Oh, yeah, let's go, we go out. No, I think Elon's pulling still. Elon Elon got game, man. Elon could cook.

SPEAKER_02 48:42

I would argue. Elon with no money. I would argue.

SPEAKER_12 48:44

Yeah, Elon got game still. Elon Musk.

SPEAKER_02 48:46

Elon do the thing, man. I think Elon do his thing.

SPEAKER_10 48:48

Elon Musk would argue if you got Kodak Black and Elon Musk both broke, Kodak will get more bitches.

unknown 48:53

Definitely.

SPEAKER_10 48:54

Kodak would get a lot of hood bitches. I think.

SPEAKER_04 48:56

Yeah, Kodak would get hood bitches.

SPEAKER_11 48:58

I agree with you. And I he definitely has the gift of the gap more than fucking him. I guarantee I guarantee he's got better game.

SPEAKER_04 49:04

No, no, no. You can't do it.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

It's a better game.

SPEAKER_04 49:05

You can't talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 49:06

Men that are funny, they tend to get women that are more attractive above their kind of level.

SPEAKER_12 49:12

He knows that.

SPEAKER_11 49:15

I don't know, but this is the thing. Like, yeah, I agree to a certain point, yeah, but it's more like this. It's more like ha ha ha ha, you maybe laugh the right way's your money now. Like, that's how it goes. You know what I'm saying? It's not like you got any money. Like, the ha ha ha is just the start of the have you got any money? That's what it's like. That's how it goes. Like long term. Come on, bro. You're not sticking with a guy who's broke and funny. Let's be real.

SPEAKER_04 49:43

So if so, if Jeff Bezos went broke tomorrow, his wife's leaving him.

SPEAKER_11 49:47

He's all she's already left him and took him for everything he's got. What are you talking about? She's the richest woman on the planet, man.

SPEAKER_04 49:53

That's why I had to use it. Sorry, Jeffy. It's peak. What happened to you, big man, boy?

SPEAKER_11 49:55

And then he's he's done it again. Another one? The DJ calider of marriages is another one.

SPEAKER_10 50:00

It don't matter how wealthy you are. If you don't know about female nature, you just always want to be cooked with women, bruv. Yeah, it's crazy. Unless you learn. Yeah. Money cannot save you. Looks can't save you either. Looks will get you through the door. Money, yeah. But it won't keep you there.

SPEAKER_11 50:14

Yeah, but this is what I'm saying. Like, I don't think because she said they look for quality. I don't think that's true anymore. Yeah, that's about it. If you're really good looking, you can sleep with a lot of women, even if you're broke. You can't retain them. Yeah, of course. Sleep with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back in the day, like they wouldn't really look for that. They would look for you know, who can protect me, who can provide for me. Yeah. Looks would come last year. You can build a house. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I think it's a bit different. I think back in the day, I think he was right. I think they would look more women, definitely look for more quality. But now I don't think so. There's too many baby moms to to to say that that's true. I'm sorry. And they always they always cost their baby dad off. So the coup like you're gonna say when they how is he hit? Like, I don't like if he's that bad, how is he hit? That's crazy to me.

SPEAKER_10 50:56

That's why I like it.

SPEAKER_11 50:57

Why did you breed his kids that bad of a guy? Fair enough if you're not gonna cost him off. Well, he's gonna cost him off if I think that makes you look mad. You're gonna say I don't know. Did he bamboozle you? I don't know, ladies. Time in like a got down. Do you think that you can get bamboozled by a guy? Or do you just ignore the red flags?

SPEAKER_05 51:17

Define bamboozled.

SPEAKER_11 51:18

Huh?

SPEAKER_05 51:19

Define bamboozled.

SPEAKER_11 51:20

You may he sold you a dream somehow.

SPEAKER_05 51:22

Okay, I can say a story.

SPEAKER_11 51:24

Do you want to say have we got time for a story?

SPEAKER_05 51:26

It's a quick story. Okay, let's try it.

SPEAKER_11 51:28

Do you want to say safe space?

SPEAKER_05 51:29

I didn't say safe.

SPEAKER_04 51:30

No, okay. Raw space it is.

SPEAKER_05 51:36

Two years ago, I met a guy. Yeah. He was uh super hitting on me. Um for a few days.

SPEAKER_04 51:41

Sorry, he was a Ghanaian guy.

SPEAKER_05 51:43

No, what did you say?

SPEAKER_04 51:44

You just said you met a guy. Oh, you met a guy, sorry, accent.

SPEAKER_05 51:47

And sorry. In Manchester, actually, before I even lived in UK, and oh thank you.

SPEAKER_04 51:52

That's better. Thank you. That's what I was missing.

SPEAKER_05 51:54

He was hitting on me for a long time, for a few days that I was the and the last day he came with a girlfriend, like nothing ever happened, right? So I figured that's weird. For two years, two years, this guy has been texting me and calling me every day, every single day. And I was like, no, leave me alone, leave me alone, leave me alone. And after two years, when I was moving in here, I was thinking, because he's been constantly trying to convince me to date me. I was like, okay, I'll give up. And that was the biggest mistake of my life.

SPEAKER_10 52:25

Was he Nigerian?

SPEAKER_05 52:26

No.

SPEAKER_11 52:27

Bro, he was one million percent who was like, bro, he was one trillion percent. Okay, he was back.

SPEAKER_01 52:32

Yes, he was. Oh, he was a bad fact, but I want to I want to know if he was curvy. He wasn't curvy.

SPEAKER_05 52:40

He wasn't, man.

SPEAKER_04 52:41

He's got you. Um he and Kirby, in a certain sentence, is brain.

SPEAKER_05 52:46

He told me he's got a car. He showed me that car, turned out it was his sister's. He told me he lives with a sister and a dog, turned out he lives with his mom and five siblings. He told me he has a remote job and is doing well. Turned out he's unemployed, and he's sometimes doing security on the fake badge that was his uncle's. So none of that matters is that.

SPEAKER_11 53:05

But you don't care about money, so that doesn't matter, does it?

SPEAKER_05 53:08

He was unemployed. It's about love. Fuck love is still here.

SPEAKER_11 53:13

That's what I like to hear. There we go.

SPEAKER_05 53:14

Yeah, honestly, I'm doing well, my friend.

SPEAKER_11 53:16

Fuck love, give me that money.

SPEAKER_05 53:17

And I moved into another country. I had four bags, all of my savings, and I really don't need someone who's a bum.

SPEAKER_11 53:24

Do you believe in equality?

SPEAKER_05 53:26

No.

SPEAKER_11 53:27

You don't? You're honest, that's fair.

SPEAKER_05 53:30

No, and when I realized it took me like three weeks to realize that he actually is a bum and he stole my money from our drawer. He dig from my shit. No, listen, no, no.

SPEAKER_11 53:40

I'm gonna listen, listen to me. You played the long time. He was just trying to hit you. He was just trying to hit two years. And this is what I mean, like like two years, two years everything.

SPEAKER_05 53:49

How much do you try to just hit?

SPEAKER_11 53:52

Did he hit?

SPEAKER_05 53:53

He did.

SPEAKER_11 53:54

Yeah, you did the campus.

SPEAKER_10 53:58

Listen, no, no, no, no. But this is a problem. The real MVP. No, no, no. This is the real MVP. No, no, no, fuck that. No, that's a problem. That's a problem. Two years trying to hit some pussy. Yeah. Imagine if you took that time and put it into a business.

SPEAKER_11 54:11

No, he couldn't. Listen, this is the one.

SPEAKER_10 54:13

He was working.

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SPEAKER_04 54:15

You know what it was, though? He was working on the investment money in it. He got that in it. He had to get that start up. Hear me out, hear me out, hear me out.

SPEAKER_11 54:21

Don't hear me out. Remember. Oh, that's crazy. Hit. And got money. Got money. Like much. How much? You go into a hit. I'm got money. How much did he take?

SPEAKER_05 54:33

Oh, you're gonna love this. Five pounds. Oh, was that?

SPEAKER_10 54:36

You run five pounds. This is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 54:38

You mentioned five pounds.

SPEAKER_01 54:40

Nah, but okay.

SPEAKER_10 54:41

There's even a verse in the Bible that says, do not chase women, they will ruin your kingdom. His kingdom didn't even fucking start. That's crazy. Because he just wasted two years of it.

SPEAKER_04 54:49

No, but that aside, I just want to address the I don't think he was the two years, though. I don't think he was wasting it.

SPEAKER_05 54:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:56

I don't know. I don't think no no no. I don't think. She was not the only person he was dealing with. She was definitely just part of the side. That's even worse though. All them girls he's chasing.

SPEAKER_11 55:10

Too many distractions. Let me respond. Can I respond to him? I I 100% agree. But you know if it was just like a recreational thing, it doesn't really matter. Like whether he was talking to her or not, he probably still would have been a bomb.

SPEAKER_10 55:23

How long now do you spend trying to get a girl?

SPEAKER_11 55:26

That day, bro, and then after that, that's it.

unknown 55:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 55:31

What about you? If the energy's not and if there's no energy there, like you know, them 24-hour responses and that.

SPEAKER_04 55:36

I just I just I'm I'm probably less ruthless. I'm I'm probably in the hours. Like, if there's definitely nothing there, if I'm not getting responses when I'm I'm expecting it, it's dead for me.

SPEAKER_10 55:45

How many dates would you both give a girl? And it's like, oh, if she don't let you hit by this date, you're not gonna bother anymore. I'm on Do you want to go first?

SPEAKER_11 55:54

I say two. But the first thing I just want to say, I say two.

SPEAKER_04 55:56

I'm on one and a half, but the second one, now but do you see what it's like? But when I say a date, that's what I'm doing. The second one, the second date now is that one for me, really. So when I say one and a half, it depends what we're doing for the second date. Now I don't mind cooking or you cook or something like that. You get me? So you never know where that might lead to, you know what I mean? So one and a half.

SPEAKER_11 56:14

Do you know why that's not acceptable though? What I'll tell you why it's unacceptable. Nah, the game ladies are looking now, but all I'm just saying is that the reason it's gonna be for the UK, just to clarify. Yeah, yeah, it's not a good thing. The reason it's gonna annoy me, and I'm not saying the lady should sleep with someone on the first date. I'm not saying you should. I disagree. No, no hold on, where the reason I'll have my point for that too. Yeah, the reason why I'm gonna be like, hmm, it's because I know for a fact that you've done it before. Yeah, that's why I'm gonna be annoyed. Yeah, and I can't not be the guy. I have to believe that I am the guy. No, but I'm asking. I can't be the guy.

SPEAKER_04 56:47

I live in reality, and reality tells me that you have been, you have given this up to a man before for nothing. Without working, without putting any stress into it, without anything. So I'm not about to sit here and be that guy that's gonna sit here for days and weeks and because I know you ain't a virgin, girl. You ain't not virgin. I look in the eye right now, Rachel to say you ain't not virgin. So it don't matter. I'm not about to throw it down on you. We're going on two dates. I've got a second.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

I've got a question.

SPEAKER_04 57:15

Oh shit, before both of you. Okay, go on. Go on, Rach.

SPEAKER_01 57:19

So um, uh who's in a relationship and what's your longest relationship? Two questions.

SPEAKER_11 57:24

Someone asked me this last week. I did they, did they? That's mad. Go biggs. You I answered the last one.

SPEAKER_01 57:29

Don't pass it. Come on.

SPEAKER_11 57:31

Um, I can't be tamed, and and I think I think four years, four years ago. Four years, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:39

Four years. How old are you?

SPEAKER_11 57:40

32.

SPEAKER_01 57:41

32.

unknown 57:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 57:43

Four years. How long do you think it should be? Because I asked this person before.

SPEAKER_01 57:46

How long do I think it should be?

SPEAKER_11 57:47

Yeah, yeah. Like, is there like a time limit?

SPEAKER_01 57:50

It's a bit hard to say, but it gives an indication of what kind of person you are.

SPEAKER_11 57:54

Is four years not long enough, would you say?

SPEAKER_01 57:56

Four years not long, but but it depends what happened. Because you can't keep if if there's issues in the relationship, there's no point in sticking around, but then that goes down to how you're picking as well.

SPEAKER_11 58:08

Good fair, fair argument, but I would say four years is quite long, to be honest. Because I would say, like, if it was like a year, two years, all of them are like two years, I get it. Because the first year I would say is like the honeymoon period. I don't I don't even count the first.

SPEAKER_01 58:19

Okay, let me ask a different let me ask a different question. So, four years is your longest. What's your standard? What's your usual what do you mean?

SPEAKER_11 58:26

For talking to you.

SPEAKER_01 58:27

So you you start dating someone, you're in a relationship. What's normal? What do you mean four years is your longest? What's your what's your normal?

SPEAKER_11 58:34

The average.

SPEAKER_01 58:35

Yeah. Where is it? Not even average, like say you've had six relationships.

SPEAKER_11 58:41

How long of each I'd say I'd say my average is about three years.

SPEAKER_04 58:45

The question is, where what's your cut-off point? What's your cut-off point before you feel like I'm gonna take this person fully serious or I'm not? And I think from probably for me is probably what do you mean by the way? I'll give you like a couple of months.

SPEAKER_01 58:57

So I'm a I'm a until you know you're invested, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:00

Until you invest fully, because of course everyone's surface level initially, and it's that sexual attraction, it's that lust, you know, you're in you're in the mode. But when am I actually going to invest in you now?

SPEAKER_10 59:10

I think it depends on how many of your green flags personally she ticks. Yeah, that there is 80% at least of your green flags just go in. I can't.

SPEAKER_11 59:18

I've been I've been I've been tricked into a relationship before, I ain't gonna lie. Trick I think every guy has at least trick, when I say set the scene, come on. Alright, let's go into the safety. You're gonna need this when I say trick, this is what I mean. Okay, but you know what though? I think they was watching my shows, though. Um I'm pretty adamant. 100% was what I should be.

SPEAKER_10 59:36

How long was it before you got in a relationship?

SPEAKER_11 59:38

I wouldn't say I was confirmed in a relationship, but it was getting relationshipy. But how long was it? The time maybe like I think between six months to a year. Yeah, okay. But how it happened is that they just started being very helpful. Like, and I'm not asking for shit. Like in my house, I've popped out, I've come back, it's clean, done what. I ain't asked you to do it. There's food in that, and I'm like, oh, okay, crazy. And then you just kind of get used to that. And I think they're clever because you get used to it happening. So then obviously you don't really want them to go because it's happening. Do you want to say that's how I've been tricked into it? You know what I'm gonna say? Just being very, very helpful.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:14

And it is hard. You ask us this, but when we you know what honest, we put a lot of our shit on the table.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

You still haven't answered.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:21

Who me? Oh, yeah. I'm nah, I'm out here. I'm I I belong to the streets currently.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:26

I ain't gonna lie. Raw dogging these bitches, bro. Huh? He's raw dogging these bitches, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:32

Nah, nah. Not really. Sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:34

Sometimes that's a jump. That's a jump.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:38

I've told him. I've told him a few times though.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:40

But I have a question.

unknown 1:00:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:43

Before you ask your question, yes. There was something that you asked, and I was gonna.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:48

The average? The average normal? Was it that?

SPEAKER_10 1:00:51

She wanted to ask the average time frame of your kind of like, yeah, what's your standard?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

Yeah, I said I said about a couple of months. But before you jump off.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:00

Yeah, I'm like, if I'm not if I'm not feeling that I can like you're investable, I feel like after a couple of months, I will see the cracks if there is any.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:09

Do you know what? I just don't say anything. To me, a woman is just a ghost. No, no, I'm like, no, I've actually like, okay, yeah, I have. So, but I like I don't make it abundantly, I don't make it abundantly obvious that I'm not going to take it seriously.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:23

Yeah, there is that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:24

I just don't say anything. So you tick all of her boxes, you continue to make it seem like everything's okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:29

No, I I'm I to be honest, I'm honest, I'd rather break it down. I'm not afraid to just be like, you know what, I don't I just don't think that this is really C9I right now.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:38

Do you know what it is? If they don't tick the green flags and they're not cultible, yeah, right, then they just go into the sex-only category. But that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I don't say anything. But when you say disrespect the high way, then you're like, no, fuck. No, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:50

But you have to test the cultureable, that's my point. And doing that is by being able to air certain points. Now, depending on what you get as feedback, will then determine what category you then end up in during.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:01

And a big one is to also see how she is when she's angry. That's a big because women shit test guys all the time. Even married dudes, their wives still shit test them, most fail. So you should shit test them back, you know. You need to see if they're willing to be, you know, for you to be able to be with them for a long time. Yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:22

How long can you stay in a sex only?

SPEAKER_10 1:02:26

I can stay.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:27

No, how long will a man take it?

SPEAKER_11 1:02:30

I can still say not take. Give it, you mean come on, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:36

Yeah, um all of the things I've skipped by today, you know.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:40

Forever and ever, Andrew.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

Stop.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:42

Yeah, forever. Come on, forever, yeah, forever.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:46

A man would just keep going back.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:47

Keep going back just for sex for everybody unless keep going back until she starts throwing it back and does something disrespectful. Oh, yeah, yeah. But yeah, guys will stay there for a while.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:56

I have a question connected to this actually. Come on. So you said that you give like up to two dates to have sex with a girl, right? Do you if you do it on the first date, do you still go back and respect her?

SPEAKER_10 1:03:09

Yes. Me personally, yes, but I can't speak for every guy. A lot of guys actually don't. But me, yeah, because you can think, oh, she's probably done this with so many dudes. But you can also think, well, what if I'm just that guy in her eyes? And her first, second, or third time doing this. It's not really that bad. She ain't a fucking virgin, so right? I'm not surprised. We're fucking on the first or second date, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:34

And if I'm attracted, if I try to tell I like it, I don't I don't really do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:39

That goes past me. Like, I'm really don't if I sit here and consider this whole sorry, I didn't mean to call you there, but if I sit here and consider the whole time, what have you been doing? Who have you been with? I would never be with anyone. Like you would never be with no one, you cannot do that. I'll just go into it open. I'm just open, I'm ready to go until I have a reason for you to give me a reason not to be attracted to you. Everything's on the table. It's actually happened. I'm here.

Protests, Persuasion, And Planting Seeds

SPEAKER_11 1:04:01

I've actually got into a relationship after that, and it wasn't it wasn't actually planned to do that, but it was like it happened, and it's funny because she was Polish as well. But that was um, yeah, yeah, like we did do that on the first night, but there's a way to test though. I don't know if you agree with this. Yeah, the way I would test it. Let's go. The way I would test it is if it does happen, and I'm just giving you like game now, right? So if it does happen, yeah, on the first night. But you're fucking on the first night.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:23

I don't need game, yeah, yeah. You're so funny. No, no, no, okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:28

What I'm what I'm saying, like that I'm uh a little bit into the male psyche, so to speak, but the way I look at it is this if if we did sleep on the first night, right, or the first time of meeting, I want to see your reaction. To what? So like I'm gonna pull back a little bit. Yeah. Uh you didn't pull back though.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:44

And if I now, but just a bit though, because you're testing, I think it's the women that's it. Is it a feminine trait?

SPEAKER_11 1:04:49

No, no, but I'm gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna tell you why I'm testing. Because someone who sleeps with someone all the time doesn't really care, like they'll just move on to the next.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:57

Oh, okay, that's quite a good test, actually.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:59

Yeah, but if they if they're if they start chasing you a little bit, right, like they want to know why you're not replying to them and that, then that leads me to believe either I am the guy or that you know they don't just sleep with anyone like that because that's a big thing for them. Do you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:12

Oh it's not a bad test. It's true, it's the truthful, but it's the truth, it's the truth.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:17

It's it's a so if they if they chase you, I feel like a lot of men do that subconsciously anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:21

Yeah, they don't I don't think they realize like that's hurtful, and then what women will say is I don't realize what a lot of women will then turn around and say, How comes how comes I've slept with that man, but now he doesn't reach out to me or nothing. It's not that, it's just that's a big thing to me.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:35

I don't just free up cheeks like that. Yo, chat to me. Why aren't you replying to me? Question mark, question mark. Like, I'm like, okay, let's let's see.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:41

So why do you want them to double triple text you just to try?

SPEAKER_11 1:05:46

Wait, wait, wait, who said triple text?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:48

But because you said, Oh, why are you not replying? Why are you not replying?

SPEAKER_11 1:05:50

So, but say I'm gonna explain why. Let's be honest. Women play the most games. If we could if we could mark up who plays more games, it's deaf or women. The minute you sleep with somebody, the ball's actually in your court now, whether you want to believe it or not, it is right. So I want to see how you react when the ball's in my court because you're gonna play your games before we sleep together. Oh, you gotta do this, open the door, take me out, pen for it. You like play your games. So most guys fuck this up, but of course, they sleep with a woman.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:16

What does it mean? What does it mean that the ball is in my crowd?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:20

I don't understand because we decide who we sleep with, but men decide about the relationship, who they're gonna get into a relationship but you said after we sleep with a man, then the ball is in our court.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:30

So basically, that's what you think.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:32

The ball is in our court before we sleep with a man.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:35

Oh, yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:36

Not after not after, not after.

Wrap-Up And Social Plugs

SPEAKER_10 1:06:37

So basically, before the sex, right? The woman has technically all the power because she decides if he can fuck her or not. Right. Now, let's say she lets him fuck. Now he's taken the power because he's fucked, he's conquered her spiritually, right? So this is where most guys fuck it up. They fuck and then they start simping straight away. This is a problem because when you simp after you hit, you just give her the power back. You like the power back, and then now when she moves weird, you don't get what you don't get it. So this is what you should do, right, guys watching. When you fuck, if you like her, cool, I get it, right? But you have to contain yourself. You might want to talk a certain way, show a bit of love now. But what you should do, like he said, is you should pull back, not too much, just a little bit, right? Don't completely ignore her. No, of course not. Don't look like a dickhead, but pull back a little bit because attention is a woman's currency. Bring it back. If she reaches out to you, calls you, text, voice note, sends you a pick, vid, I don't know, likes your pick, I don't know. Then that shows that she gives a little bit of a shit about you. And then from there, you can kind of develop from there. But even after that, you should never just hand over the power back. It's your job. Now you got the power, lead and go from there and keep it there. This is where most guys fail because when they get to this stage, now what they do is they try and change themselves. This is another problem. When you try and change yourself, the woman don't like that. She may like it at first and think it's sweet, but then you become a new person. She's thinking, who the fuck is this guy, bruv? She likes the version of you she first met and got with. That's something.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:17

So women try to convert you, though, bro. Yeah, but mold you into this guy that they had their plan for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:24

But that's the masculine women, isn't it?

SPEAKER_10 1:08:25

Women self-sabotage, right? This is what they do. You ever been with a woman, right? And she says some dumb shit, like, oh, do you have to she has some shit? She has sorry. Do you have to go to the gym today? You go every day. Oh, do you have to go out with the guys this week? Yeah, if a woman does that link. And what she's trying to do is she's trying to change you and break you down, right? Doesn't sound like she's breaking you down, but she is. She can't do it physically, so she does it with little words and little statements like that. Most guys fall for it. They say, you know what? Yeah, one day, I'm not gonna lose my gains. But then what that does that tricks your mind into doing it again in the future. It's hard.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:03

Yeah, no, it's not. Yeah, it's hard. When I say hard, I mean like, you know, the bed's warm, they got the soft skin, the hair. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:12

No, I'm just saying. No, but this is why this is why it's always more than a lot of people. They bought it, bro.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:18

Go on, go on. And then what happens is most guys they fall for this. They now stop going to the gym, right? They're under a roof, she's making food, they're ordering takeaway, they got Netflix, Prime, Disney, YouTube, right? They fuck all the time, and then what happens? That guy throws his dreams away, stops going to the gym, gets fat, gets skinny, and then later on, what does she do? She leaves, or she cheats on him with another guy who's the same version as the one she met of him from the beginning, just in a better place. And that you self-sabotage the whole thing just to get rid of you.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:52

And you know the thing about that, the gym as well. Remember, it's discipline. So you lose your discipline the minute that you sit there and say to yourself, Oh nah, you know what? Yeah, all right, babes. You know what fucking I'm gonna stay in bed today. You've your discipline's gone, you've lost that the biggest strength we have as men. Is that discipline? Of course she does, bro. Like, I've got him now in my bed.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:13

Staying here tonight, yes. And then after she'll be like, oh right, he actually stayed. Yeah. Nah, no, it's crazy. So you have said it before evil, evil, evil. Don't say that.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:22

Now we know idealized. I have never seen a man going to the gym.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:26

Main saying, No, you probably haven't. I wouldn't. Me neither. I encourage him to go with me, actually. But I wanted to say something about the guy uh pulling back a little bit. When he does that, what I think is that he doesn't really like me. He just wanted to fuck once and leave. Yeah, but you should chase him. Why? Why would I chase a man?

SPEAKER_11 1:10:43

Because you already gave him the key. I'll tell you why. You like don't realise this, but you all you like go for men that are better than you. Right? You go for men that are better than you. Now you might have made some mistakes, don't get me wrong. But in general, you either go for men that are better than you, or like at some point you believed he was better than you. Whether you're looking back at hindsight and you think he's not anymore, or you at least at minimum want a guy who's better than you. So I don't know. Do you want a guy to be stronger than you?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:12

I don't think about this because what you said feels belittling.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:16

It doesn't matter how it feels, just listen to the words that I'm saying. Listen to the words that are coming out of the way. That automatically makes him better than you. And if you and if you think you're better than him, you won't stay with him. So you have to think he's better than you, and that's why you should chase him. You don't even like Simps. You said it before the cameras on. You don't like man that chase you and run you down and DM you. You don't like that. You like the guys that ignore you a little bit, you like the guys who you think they are better than you. That's what you really want. She don't. She wants a woman that does those things.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:56

No, that's mean that you're gonna wait. Wait, I've got a question. It's an important one.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:59

A masculine man.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:00

You make your woman go to the gym because you said you like her around. Oh, yeah. You like a curvy.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:06

You like a question.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:08

Um, you know what? Actually, I haven't been with a woman for this long to go to the gym with her together.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:17

I ain't gonna lie, but I think 70% of people that say their buys all cap, man. So cap. Like long term, just all lies. Like, it's just it's just all lies. Like long term, most women are not gonna stay with women. And I'll tell you why. It's instinctive for you. You know, it's instinct.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:32

No, but forget No, I have to be here for seven.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:35

You see how you're getting emotional, you see how you're doing getting a given emotion. I'm not talking about you. Stop being a narcissist and thinking I'm talking about you. It's not about you.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:42

I take it throw that brain around so bad.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:45

No, but I feminine trade. 70%, and you automatically thought I was talking about you. And I'm not talking about you, I'm talking in general.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:52

I don't think you know that many bisexual people just say that.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:54

I'm saying most, I'll tell you how I know this, just from you know what? Maybe I don't have the facts, but when I look around, I don't see no outly lesbian couples. I'm not saying that there isn't any. I'm saying for the most part, there ain't most of them end up with men. Maybe they stay away from and do you know lesbian relationships are very abusive. Because they smash each other up. We know this. Yeah, very abusive. The most abusive? What so that's facts? That's the thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:16

Yeah, I heard about this.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:17

Do you know who has the least? Gay marriages. Gay men. Do you know who has the least divorce rate? Gay men. No way. But who's the problem? So wait.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:26

Least divorce. Divorce rate for gay men is ridiculously low.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:30

25% or something on dumb or less.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:32

You know what it is for.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:33

You know what it is for lesbian couples? Like 85 plus percent divorce. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:40

Because y'all be having y'all be times of the months, y'all be like the times of the months of the same time.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:47

But that's down to bad diet, by the way.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:49

Oh trick, you see. But these checkmate. But everything we just said is actual numbers. Like, this isn't just us making it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:56

But who do they ask?

SPEAKER_11 1:13:58

I mean, obviously, that's how you get the information. You do surveys and you just look at divorce records.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:02

It can be biased.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:04

Yeah, at times it can, but we don't know the ones that are and um what I'm so I'm gonna speak on myself, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:09

So you're saying about bisexual people, but yeah, I can say 100% I have never been attracted to a woman. I would never want to be with a woman, that's never gonna happen. I've never thought of a woman like that. It that my I like men, that's it, that's never gonna change. That's fine.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:25

And they might listen.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:26

So someone that is attracted to women is bisexual.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:30

Yeah, I'm I'm saying that's cool. Like, if you believe that you're attracted to women, that's cool. I'm saying I just think personally, there's no facts. I'm just saying that um I would say 70% are just kind of like they might have kissed a girl, but they're saying that they're bisexual. They're not they wouldn't actually date.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:46

You know what a problem is now, you know what I'm saying? It's seen as cool to like the same sex. That's the point. People are like, yeah, LGBTQ. LGBTQ plus.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:56

It's a fad now, it's a fad.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:57

Yeah, and um let's wear rainbows. That's all part of the agenda as well. Obviously, the whole goal is to separate the family, break up the the home, and they do this very well by by t teaching us things that we shouldn't be taught.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:09

You remember when you used to draw a rainbow in school and it went nothing? Yeah, in fact, it was linked to religion.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:14

You know what's hilarious is my mum has got a um big rainbow in her garden. She was like, they're not having the rainbow. I'm claiming it back. They're not having it.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:21

It's crazy. Now a rainbow is is now something that isn't just a neutral thing no more. A rainbow, you could just be like, Yeah, me and you could just talk about rainbow now. You have to look around before you start talking about rainbows just in case. You know, I don't want no one to have any suspects on me. It's true.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:35

I agree, but you know, the uh like we were talking about the education system earlier. They teach you from a young age now, of like age four, they teach them about people being a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:44

But that's why I say that the curriculum is what runs our children.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:47

That's why feminism killed everything because now think about uh Netflix cancellation by Elon Musk lately.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:55

I liked it, to be honest. It's just a shame that he's a part of the team as well, though. That's the only thing. Yeah, it's it's just a shame that he's in the group, he's in the gang too. That's why I don't I don't I don't even listen to the news.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:05

Like I just has anyone looked into the diet and lifestyle aspect of same-sex relationships? There's a um scientist that I follow, and he said to me he wouldn't put his child, his son, into a bath full of tap water. He wouldn't let his son drink tap water because basically the water system, you know, imagine all the women in the world that are um taking birth control. It's all in the estrogenic.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:30

Yeah, so when the water's filtered, they don't filter for um any hormones.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:34

Yeah, it's hard to it's hard to unhold.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:36

Imagine how high do you think that was really an accident? No. I don't think anything's an accident.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:42

We you ladies, not you ladies, probably. I don't know what y'all are done, but ladies were the guinea pigs. They used the they you literally was the the passing flu, the passing common denominator to then infiltrate the world. It was like, how do we get this out there to everyone? How do we soften the world? And I think it was because at one stage we were all way too opinionated. After the wars, people had too many opinions, they didn't want to be told, they didn't want to be controlled, they wanted to live their lives. So it was like, how do we stop people from being opinionated? Let's just completely change their hormones, let's just terrible the world.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:18

Honestly, I think we just had such a great technological development to the point where people just got bored. You reckon? It is. Wake up, build something, go sleep, repeat. But that was the best part.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:31

That's what I'm saying. But that was then.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:32

Everyone's fucking bored.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:34

You were allowed to have your own mind then. Do you not see that? Do you not think now that we are very much scripted? Everything's scripted, everyone's doing the same things, everyone's looking the same way, fashion's the same, mentality is the same.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:45

The thing is, because of television and music, right, it shapes everyone in a way. Yeah, of course. Now, the key thing is to listen and watch things that are good and educational, at least be shaped in that way. But for the most part, people just love entertainment, gossip, bad news. All right, this is why, as well, when it comes to relationships, if you have a woman who you can see yourself wifeying, you have to lead even with the things she watches and listens to. You have to be able to say, yo, we're not listening to that, we're not watching this. She's gonna be like, Why? Because it's gonna fuck your mind up. You can't be with a girl long term and she watches all this. Love island, real housewives of bullshit. Do you know? She's gonna feed her mind with all this negative relationship stuff, even the songs Cardi B, Nikki, Sexy Red. You can't be with someone long term and she's listening to that shit. That's magic. Because then now she's gonna get some fucking big ass tits to fucking argue with you in a crazy way. And you know what's magic and disrespect you, you know what show? I realize that you're absolutely right.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:45

Love island's a scam. You know, they asked me to go on, yeah. Not even Love Island, though, not even Love Island. Um, it's called um what's it called? I think it's called Badders.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:53

Baddies, Baddies, oh Baddies.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:56

Bro, listen. I know or they do just beat up each other. There was, yeah, there was a there was a episode where they was gonna scrap here. I watched a bit of that, but I just was I just heard it in the background, right? And I'm like, like, how are you watching this brain run? It's literally like go to a room, I don't like you, you don't like me, we start fighting, and that's the show.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:17

And the worst thing about it, what the fight over is the stupidest, trivial thing.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:21

You know why they push that out, and it's mostly black people. Oh wow, because they want to no big man thing, they push that shit out with black people because they want black people to keep doing that gangster fucked up shit. So don't change, they don't want to change everything. Oh, you shouldn't have to show you.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:37

There's probably some shows.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:38

We have you got a Polish baddies, probably some not baddies.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:42

We have something called Fame MMA, where they put uh famous people, actually, there is something like that in Manchester now. It's called um KSI rounds it. Do you know? Miss Fitzgala. Yeah, it's based on the fame MMA where they put YouTubers, streamers, rappers, all sorts of celebrities to fight with each other and just trash talk each other completely. I think I know where you have to fight. Yeah, so this is kind of what because this is like a but why people have more like Taoi, like you know, like Tawi, or it's not intellectually demanding, so it's for the masses. The people love like you know, even ages ago in Greece, what was that called?

SPEAKER_11 1:20:18

Anyway, when I hear White Show, I hear like Tawi. Olympics, yeah. Olympics. Do you know what Taui is?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:24

Where gladiators were fighting each other to death.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:26

That's also like entertainment for the different though, because people would would aspire to be like in that physical shape to be a gladiator.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:33

I think it was more about killing people, yeah. Of course, for entertainment. I mean, yeah, it's watching people.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:39

That's what that's what the Coliseum was back in the day, wasn't it? That's it. It's human nature to just watch football. But that's been replaced with foot that's been replaced with football anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:48

Watching violence, I have not watched TV in at least five years.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:51

Really?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:51

Since the whole nonsense.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:53

I like to watch it once in a while to kind of see what they're trying to manipulate. Yeah, yeah. I get I do that sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:59

I do watch the news just to get entertainment. Like these are really trying to push this.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:03

I'll say to myself, I haven't watched TV in months. Let me see what they're trying to hypnotize everyone with. Watch a couple shows, be like, okay, wait, wait, there's a gay guy. Okay, yeah, bye.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:12

Yeah, you know what though, you know what it's it's funny. I used to find those things funny, but now I don't find it funny because now because I'm looking at it and I'm like, there's people that actually gonna believe this. That's there's people that have to be. Like it's like it's actually the crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:26

Remember, we're the weird people because we think outside the box, remember the majority of society will follow these things. That's why everyone sat there in COVID and told you off when you was outside driving, living like a normal person. Yeah, because we sit here, they will sit there, listen to the news, and conform to these things, believe anything that's told to you. It's bullshit, mate. Response to the COVID clip. Should we play our COVID clip? Yeah, let's run it. I just want you to have a quick response.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:49

Is this gonna trigger me?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:50

Might do.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:51

Yeah, it's gonna trigger me.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:52

This one might do still. Damn. Trigger warning is advised.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:55

Yeah, it's gonna, it's gonna be triggering. The vaccines were the right thing today. Vaccines were a scam. You're talking because of what you've seen on social media. I was there. I was in Milton Keynes, I was put in charge of a COVID ward. There were 32 beds. I've written more death certificates in those nine months than I had the previous eight years.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:10

The NHS is a scam.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:11

Hang on.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:12

Anyone who works in the NHS is just a sheep.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:15

I am the person who does it. I am there on the front line.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:19

If you got hit by a bus and died when you were positive COVID, would it go down as COVID?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:23

It may well do, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:24

It's just a scam to divide the rich and the poor.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:26

And to see who would comply.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:28

And here we are now with the digital IDs.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:30

Yo, light, share, and follow.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:31

NHS is Fox. Okay. This is the thing as wearing a pride flag. And I actually like him. Is it Anil? Yeah, yeah. Anil. I actually like Anil Anil. Yeah, he's a good dude. But it's the way he said yeah, it might possibly, yeah, with a straight face. That's crazy. How can you not say how can you not think that's alarming if you get hit by goals as well? That's crazy.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:49

I can't take a doctor's thing. Oh my gosh. Like, come on, you're a doctor.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:56

Alcohol is a requirement. That's what he said.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:59

That's what he said. That's on video. He said his girl couldn't get with him unless she drinks alcohol.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:05

Wow. Give it some content. Why?

SPEAKER_10 1:23:07

Fellas, these are the doctors of fucking England, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:10

She's gonna have no inhibitions.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:12

His boy is the feminist feminist friend's game. Whatever, give it some contents. He said, because he um works long hours, he wants to come home, have a wine or two. So if you couldn't indulge.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:22

As a doctor, he's saying that.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:23

Yeah, he said you like to have wine or two.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:26

As a doctor, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you hear brain surgeons saying that um they can tell when someone's been drinking because their brain shrinks, and a doctor's saying that he needs a woman to drink with him.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:36

Yeah, crazy. This is like when you go to pure gym and you want a personal trainer, and the personal trainer's fat, bro. Yeah, that is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:42

Don't go with a fat personal trainer, guys.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:45

The thing is, he might know his stuff, but it's not a great look, is it?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:48

Like it's not no, he doesn't know his stuff if he can't.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:51

He knows the I'm saying he knows the book. Come on, never he knows the book, he might not implement it. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:56

The thing is, it's not a great look. I'm not discrediting him, right? He's probably obviously studied a lot and all of that probably works really hard, yes. But some of the things he was snitching on himself with on video are just crazy. And it makes you think, how many other doctors here think like that?

SPEAKER_11 1:24:12

Yeah, it's kind of mad.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:13

Response.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:14

I know a lot of doctors. I have a lot of friends that are doctors, and they would completely disagree with him. Um, I know that when I went to so basically, I I've got a little bit of a story. My granddad, when he had the vaccine, he got a rash from that. He was then admitted to hospital, and when he was admitted, um, he got an infection and he didn't come out of the hospital. He was marked as a COVID death, even though it was actually a result in some way or another from the vaccine. How many people do you think have died from the vaccine and it's been marked as a COVID death?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:48

Well, not just that, I had a friend who had um his uncle had passed during COVID and they were saying to him and his family that if they wanted the body to be released to the family in the next couple of weeks, that they would have to class it as a COVID death and then they could release the body. Now, if not, they would have to do a full body autopsy, which could take up to six months, where you would have to then wait for your family to then be poked and prodded and then get them back. So, this is how they were scaring a lot of families into saying, you know what, yeah, write it, class it as a COVID death, just so they could actually go and bury their family in a good couple of months.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:28

The other aspect of this is when you put people in such a high state of fear, you are going to be risking their lives. You know, there's there's a chain reaction to that fear, there's a way that you then start living. Um, that it's not good.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:42

But also, there was a girl, she was a 12-year-old girl that was actually part of the um initial trial, the vaccine trial. She was paralysed from the neck down. They decided to take her out of the um study and not include her. And yet her mum did all these um like press releases and stuff, and she was saying we believed in the vaccine, we had every faith in the vaccine. Now our daughter, who's 12 years old, is now paralyzed from the neck down. She can't go to the toilet, she can't do all these normal things, she can't walk, she can't feed us, you know, all these different things. And that was because of the vaccine, and they decided they didn't want to include it in the study. These are the things we've started.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:21

In Congress in America, they've been um saying that basically 70% of the people that took the vaccine are no longer here no more.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:30

And also in Congress did not be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:32

Did anyone ever in the height of the vaccine, uh not the vaccine, in the height of the whole pandemic, you were able to go onto a website from the government and then put in your area and it would tell you how many people had died with, I'm gonna say with COVID because that is what it was, that's the reality. In my area of, I think it was over 65,000 people, at that time we were something like a year and a half into the pandemic. Um, two people in my area out of 65 people were marked as died from COVID, two. And um, of them two people, I know that at least one of those people was kicked in the head by a horse and marked as COVID because in the beginning, up until I think it was 2021, you had no time limit. So if you were found to be positive for COVID, any time that you die after that, you was always COVID. It was COVID. It was just a way of covering. It wasn't until 2021 that they said, okay, we're gonna do it within 30 days.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:34

This it's this it was all a load of crap. That's why didn't you remember on the news? And the death toll was like a counter that was just constantly going.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:42

Did you read the little small print underneath?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:44

What kept coming up all the time?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:45

So it would have the death counter, yeah, and then underneath in the small print, it would say, Died with COVID, not of COVID.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:53

It's always in plain sight. Yeah, it is, but people just don't open their eyes, they they they choose to live in fear, and living in fear will increase the death.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:02

Well, you've got an opposing opinion. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:04

I uh I lived in Poland at that time. We didn't have a death rate about COVID. We had a count of how many people were infected. Um, I got the vaccine, my whole family got the vaccine. I don't know anyone who died of COVID. Um, they didn't report that big of numbers. I know people infected with COVID. I was myself twice. How do you know? Because I couldn't taste anything or smell anything for a month. Yeah, but I've had that before.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:29

Before COVID was around.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:30

Yeah, I've had a bad cold before too.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:33

We all had bad colds, and it was so easy to put it on that. Of course. Your senses work. And not just that, not just that. If you tell if if you tell somebody enough times symptoms, yeah, if I even tell you now that you know there's a no no, symptoms with symptoms. No, no, but if I say that there's a rash, there's a mad rash going on around the place, heat rash, or I guarantee you all of a sudden people will develop heat rash because your mind is what controls your body. So do you not know? Literally making it happen. I swear to you, most people are getting these these symptoms because your mind is giving you these symptoms because you're seeing it pumped on the news and people around you constantly having a cold. All of a sudden, everyone's immune system was in the tank.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:14

Okay, so do you not believe that the virus existed?

SPEAKER_10 1:29:17

No, I believe the virus existed, but I believe it was man-made. I also believe that too. I use COVID as a population control. I also believe that they wanted to see how much of the human population would comply. And I also believe that they wanted to make money, as they always do. Look how much money they made from mass alone. So it's all a scam. Digital digital IDs are a scam. They're saying it's work safety bullshit. What it really is, right, is to control every single thing you say and do. They're gonna monitor your life instantly in the years to come. First, it's not work, then it's gonna go to finances, food, and then travel. When the travel one hits, that's when everyone's gonna be scared. Most people now they won't care. A lot will, especially because.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:00

I don't think it would affect our lifetime. I think it's the kids. It's the next generation that it will really.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:04

I think it's gonna affect us.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:05

It's gonna affect us.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:06

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:07

I think AI is gonna speed it up as well.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:10

We actually already have ID uh ID like ID, yeah. I have it for yeah now. It's a wrote it out, but it's wait, wait, it's not matching.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:18

Are you pro-vitigal ID? It's my like everyone has. Insane. Insane. It's been a bit more. No, you you you really need to learn some things right now because digital ID means that they can say to you, sorry, you wrote something on social media, so you're not allowed to have all of your money this week. Yeah? I need to ask that, and I've been having because digital ID is coming in. So um also when we if we let it come to a cashless society, they will also not let anyone have any savings. Your funds will be redistributed to them to the world.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:53

They're gonna start saying you have to spend this money by this day. It's gonna have an expiry day.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:57

Yeah, and sorry, you traveled three times. You're not allowed to travel anymore. You you've reached your quota, you're not allowed to eat a certain amount of meat, you're not allowed to think it's complete control. We already have the digital IDs, and none of these questions were asked to know.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:09

No, it's not none of it, it's not happening.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:11

We don't have it to the degree that they want to the reason why it's not here now is because if they put that shit out right now, people are gonna call bullshit and riot, okay? They have to do it slowly. So, what they do is here's a digital ID. Boom. When everyone accepts that, that's when they now say, Okay, guys, right, look, we're gonna monitor your finances. Boom. Actually, next one, food. Your money has an expiry day. Okay, the last one, you cannot travel 15 minutes out of your city. You cannot travel abroad, you can't do this, because why? You're in debt with this, you said this online.

SPEAKER_11 1:31:46

I don't think that's how they're gonna do it, you know. I think they will. I put that into chat if we're gonna do that. So no, no, I'm not saying that they're not gonna do that. I'm I'm saying that they're not gonna say it like that. So what I'll do is I'll take example. So you know your travel thing, they won't say, Oh no, you can't travel. What they'll say is that listen, we're restricting the amount of people that can travel now because of the emissions from the planes, and you just can't travel. They're making sound like a saying seem like we need it, like you need it. Yeah, no, no, no, because that's how control works, it doesn't go like yo, we're stopping you from doing this because everyone will revolt if you do like so they have to do it in a way where you so right now the excuse is is immigration, yeah. And a lot of people are pro-immigration now, so they'd be like, Okay, cool. If it's gonna stop immigration, I'll get it. Yeah, then it will change and they'd be like, okay, uh we're eating too much meat now, so now I've got to restrict how much meat you have this week. You can only have one.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:32

That's how we left. That's how we left um Brexit. That's how Brexit happened when they came to all the everyone and says money. They said they knew everyone was broke and we were going through recession. They're like, okay, yeah, well, we've got all this money that we could save if we leave the EU and all this crap. We didn't get nothing. Who's ever seen? If anything, we've got that's gone up, man. Toxic taxes and everything's gone up now. We have to pay more now. And yeah, the national minimum wage has slightly gone up, but overall, more taxes have gone up anyway. So no one's seen any of that money.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:01

But that's how they get you, yeah. But they create the problem, they've created this issue that we've got with immigration at the moment. And the only reason why they've created it and they're allowing it is because they want to bring in the digital ID, they want to bring in cashless society. But who is coming in illegally without paperwork that then all of a sudden will miraculously have a digital ID?

SPEAKER_11 1:33:21

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:21

Like they're making it for us. Don't be don't be don't actually be lied to like.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:27

Your point on the money thing, they kind of already control the money, you know. Because I just realized, did you know that like banks can just close your account and not give you a money is just numbers on the screen?

SPEAKER_10 1:33:34

Yeah, it's not even real.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:35

Have you ever tried to go to the bank and terms and conditions? Well, you know, I went out yeah, and I went to draw, I went to take out, I think it was like two or five thousand to take out. And the the the question in that I was bearing in mind this is my money, you know. The question in that of line I was getting to get it out, which actually crazy. That happened to my uncle. Actually, and then yeah, the same bank as well. Like they shut my bank down and just did. I asked, I went to ask them why. They don't have to give you a reason, apparently, to just close the bank.

SPEAKER_10 1:33:59

Who owns the banks?

SPEAKER_11 1:34:01

Yeah, of course. I'm just saying, like, they already control it, like, and and again, I've tried to make big transfers and it's blocked, just blocked it. Why? But I've got a ring up and find out what's going on and answer a load of questions. It's crazy, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:13

And they're gonna say because they're protecting society.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:16

No, it's just controlling the money.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:17

Fraud and scams. It's not that.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:19

That's my point. Is that they always paint it up as though they're helping us, and that's how we as consumers of this society accept things as if it's helping us.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:30

I'm gonna have to wrap it up. I'm sorry. Cotton in. Um, last thoughts on the show social media, um, plug, start with yourself.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:37

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SPEAKER_01 1:35:02

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SPEAKER_11 1:35:14

How do you think the shot went?

SPEAKER_01 1:35:15

I thought we brought up some interesting subjects. There's always uh you could talk for a lot longer, obviously, but and then you just cut it.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:23

I have to because he's gotta go and then when we start streaming.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:26

Oh, it's your fault.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:27

Yeah, and the end. I feel like she's disgusted.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:32

What?

SPEAKER_11 1:35:32

I feel like you're disgusted with today's.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:34

No, it was interesting to hear um all of your points of view, I think, because I don't usually speak to people that think that way. I feel like all of you have kind of similar mindset. Um, my socials at Frank XX is W-R-O-N-K-A-X on most platforms. Um what else can I say? I I like I like debating you. Um, I didn't expect COVID debates though.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:58

I know sometimes you know we like to throw stuff in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:01

But when when everyone mentioned the digital ID, so tomorrow I'm gonna be protesting in Birmingham against digital ID. This is this is the big one, yeah. We've all got to do it.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:11

I ain't gonna lie, and like this might sound very defeative of me, yeah, but I used to be gonna say it. No, I know, but I used to be. Where should I fight? Now hold on. I used to be masculinity. No, but I used to be on it. She's been become a V and your masculine. No, no, no, no. Well, listen, let me explain. I used to be on those things. Yeah, yeah. But then I've realized that most people are stupid. I like you're fighting that so everyone, most people are dumb. So why is it?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:35

If you if you yeah, if you spread the word like most people do in organizations and stuff, yeah, you're not gonna get very fast. During COVID, everyone was dumb. No, during COVID, what we did is we set up um outreach marches, or we would go to train stations and stuff, or better still, we took like my one of my friends made this song, Don't Take the Vaccine, and we went to schools. Some of those schools, like I covered every um school in my area and the surrounding towns, and a lot of um schools in London as well. And we would go there with our big speaker and we would have all have like have the kids partying with us. We'd say to the kids, go and tell your mum, speak to them, we'd give them a leaflet. I made sure on that leaflet was that 12-year-old girl that was paralyzed from the neck down. Some schools we went to, none of the kids got vaccinated. Fair because of us.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:22

That's fair. That's fair. That's actually a good achievement.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:25

What I'm saying is you can change things if you do things outside of the box and you actually speak to the people. The people, the only things that the only things that matter.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:34

And I'm not gonna play it out what you do because I actually think that's amazing, but what's the what's the ratio for the people that did and didn't take it?

SPEAKER_01 1:37:42

That's what I'm saying. Some schools had none.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:43

Do you know what? Yeah, no, yeah, I'm saying, like, say let's use the UK as a whole. But one what you say is the majority of the thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:49

But we put our time into people into the kids because they're the next generation, they're the ones that matter, they're the ones that are gonna have babies, I agree, miscarriages, and stuff because of these vaccines, you know, all that stuff. But we also did go and speak to people as well, like we would I I agree with it.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:05

I just like it's it's funny. Even when you have conversations like this, you listen to people and you're like, yo, you like there's no ho, because it's just imagine. You know what? Most people just don't imagine.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:13

I'll say this in closing, right? Unfortunately, and I'm not trying to be negative, these digital ideas are here to stay and they're all gonna develop. However, what I've come to realize is you can't actually change the world, but what you can do is put your voice out there enough over and over again, and eventually you'll just change a little bit. You plant seeds. As long as you can do that, you plant seeds, you're good. Yeah, of course. But what I don't the world will always keep getting more fucked up. Yeah, that's just how it is. Put it this way.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:40

It's been written.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:41

How's it happened?

SPEAKER_11 1:38:42

Put it this way. I I made sure my best. Immediate family didn't take that.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:46

So you don't believe in vaccine?

SPEAKER_11 1:38:48

No, I believe in vaccines. I don't believe in untested vaccines.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:51

You know, I spoke to a scientist at the time, friend of mine, and he said, Why would you put something in your bloodstream that you could never catch that way? So even if you believe that you can catch a virus, so that's gonna go in your eyes, in your nose, in your mouth. I said this, it's never going in. It's never going in in your blood. So, how are you gonna then expect your body to react to something? Because your white cells learn how to fight the disease.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:16

We could be here fighting.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:19

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