Listeners will get a brief, 3 min, overview of Hopeful Purpose as a 4-H Thriving MOdel indicator. We then interview our guest on the topic, Dr. Casey Mull, State 4-H Program Leader with Purdue University. Lastly, we take what we have covered and apply it to our daily practice. Segment 1 starts at :38, segment 2 starts at 7:41, segment 3 starts at 46:05.