Corie Sheppard Podcast
Corie Sheppard Podcast
Episode 217 | Jungie
This week we’re joined by the oldest breakout artiste in the history of Trinidad & Tobago – Jungie.
If you don’t know Jungie, just know that your favourite artiste knows him. He’s been around since the days of Kisskidee Caravan and has worked with and around some of the biggest names in the industry and 2025 he ketch a length with his breakout tune – Drinking Rum.
If you’re on the socials you may have seen Jungie giving his own versions of motivational speeches and maintains an aura of persistence and positivity but his pages these days show him putting in the work performing his song with energy on a thousand whether he’s on the stages at Army Fete, Different or a backyard jam.
We talk to Jungie about his brotherhood with artistes like Mx Prime & Ziggy Ranking and his entry into the entertainment industry.
He openly discusses his battles with mental wellness and the role that DJ Bravo has played in his return to the industry.
Not one you want to miss.
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Jungi. It's something I want to recreate here before we start. Right, jungi, because you see, this part of the tune is my favorite part, I feel as the bottle. Let me try and do it here now. Let me see if we could do it. First drink for the year. You know Everything. Good, my brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, everything cool, welcome man. Thanks, man, I'm glad to have you here.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that I want to let everybody and you reach here one time as I reach out to you. Very effective, Very effective very efficient, nothing selective. It's my place. I want to start. I could start here soon.
Speaker 3:Spin it, drink, drink, drink, drink, drink. You better know when to drink your rum. We love to drink. Till the kingdom comes the middle of the week or the month and month, when the night's high and the burning's hot, we gonna drink, drink, drink, drink.
Speaker 3:With Naya Artissian, I try to sing and everybody know I like to drink my rum when I drinkin' it down in town, town, chiffin', and I fall in dung. I like to drink me rum, chiffin', and I fall in dung when I drink in a dung in town. Bring out the rum, be me, let me drink up. Have a new rum shop Woman and the glory and everything. Pump up them, woman and God bless, they come out to impress. Two days on the road again, cannavale is rum fest. I don't care what people say. Again we drinking rum. I don't go on the road, all in the drain. We drinking rum, this thing, it is helping so much pain. We drinking rum. Hold a glass of liquor. Everybody, everybody, we gonna drink, we gonna drink, we gonna drink, and everybody from the back to the everybody. I like to hug her.
Speaker 1:Hey, we can't get them for free. We can't get them everything for free. Brother, it's Carnival Week. Men have to save their voice. Yeah man, yeah man, Brother, congratulations. A big, big season. How's the season treating you?
Speaker 2:Right now we're just appreciating everything as it comes and obstacles will appear. But you either go around, go above or go beneath, you know. But I stand in ground and Everything good Tires was so often, the oldies are replaced, so I'm running with Run flat.
Speaker 1:They can't stop you now.
Speaker 2:They could slow me down, but they can't stop me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man. Well, boy, you have a word you like to use I want to talk about In this podcast here, called determination. I hear so about that often. Yeah, boy, how important that is to you, boy.
Speaker 2:Well, it is mandatory that. How to put it, boy, I is old school, I is not Air Force One, right, right? So it have things that becomes necessary to achieve what it is you need to achieve, not what you want, Right, what you need to achieve, not what you want what you need to achieve. And I appreciate the fact that plenty of times you will get turned down, right, some people become sour and they will talk, and they you have to use that as manual to produce flowers, right?
Speaker 2:You know, and okay and I'm good, no problem, no problem, I will show you. Okay, oh, you're so. And okay and I'm good, no problem, no problem, I will show you. Right, oh, you're so quiet, you're so quiet, put a mic in my hand.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, we see that, we see that, we see that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:That's one of the things make me reach out to. You know and we have plenty is the oldest artist in the history of Trinidad and Tobago, the oldest breakout artist in history.
Speaker 2:Somebody say Bo Bo. How are you feeling?
Speaker 1:How are you feeling this year after all the determination?
Speaker 2:Between me and you. It's been a while. I've been clapping for everybody, you know Right. But I decided to clap for myself now and even if others who I was clapping before four, they'll clap for me. It's okay. Anytime you emphasize and try to gravitate from that low vibration, you'll remain low, you know so. Once you shake, one needs to be shaken. Gravity is there, but God is also, so you will rise to the occasion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I see you rising. I see you rising. And who produced this song? Who produced the writing? For yourself. Where did the idea come from?
Speaker 2:Well, honestly speaking, if somebody gave you an idea like let me say, corey gave me an idea, I will put written by Corey, Because too often people like how do I put it? I plain spoken right. People like you're in a restaurant, you're selling food. They want all the praise you have to remember pimento peppers was cut, coconut was great. Think about the people in the background. You catch me. So every little percentage of the assistance given, you have to acknowledge them and with that now they will give you more because they feel appreciated of course, of course, of course you can't just want to focus on the attention.
Speaker 2:The attention is there, but you can't seek it right, you know so plenty went into it, plenty hands went.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's good that's well good.
Speaker 2:Well, about two since about 2014,. Yeah, I left an organization, willingly, you know, and I decided I want to venture out on my own. But venturing out on your own, I had some issues and it have a lot of people right now with mental situation. I'm not crazy, I'm not mad, but sometimes just lot of people right now with mental situation. I'm not crazy, I'm not mad, but sometimes just so you can catch the call right Tylenol may work for you, advil may work for you. It might not work for me. So I had also dig really, really deep to get myself out of a dark place Since 2014,. Tobacco for you as well. And the sad thing is, people just talk to people, so you don't want to tell people your business for it to spread like peanut butter. You know so plenty of the things I would keep to myself, whereas I was supposed to go out and get the help I required. But, just like everything under the sun, that time expired and I'm in a good place mentally right now. Depression is no more Nice and, trust me, risk gone.
Speaker 1:Risk gone, risk gone, risk gone. I see you holding it with two hands.
Speaker 2:Because last year I decided to come out and let people know where I was mentally Right, and it was not about shows or anything like that, it was about just how to put it just praying myself, let people see what he's capable of, right, I already knew what was coming this year. And this year still is not about shows. This year is about effort, because I'm 51, going on 52. Right, and I consider myself the oldest breakout artist. Nice, you know, some people go well, but what's wrong with he boy? Where he going and where I going, where I going Watch and see.
Speaker 1:We watching, we watching we watching.
Speaker 2:No, I'm very determined. And you have to pass through the gallery before you reach in the house. Yeah, so right now I'm doing the groundwork. I started in the streets, on the road, until I reach stage.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, I want to go back to that start because let me tell you, the first time I introduced to you, I introduced you as a little fella in st james, when men used to come up from st james sec. Yeah, I know you're wrong. Since them times, yeah, I used to be chanting. Yeah, yeah, yeah Men was chanting, so you were telling me that in St James Sec, which is a kind of hub for the culture in its own way too. Yeah, man. Maximo something would've been around your time too.
Speaker 2:Edgel. Well, I left Edgel and Corey in school. You, them is my two big sons. Man, make me very proud, and I can say it loud Good, good, good good, and you and them fellas good now.
Speaker 1:Very good, that is good that is good.
Speaker 2:The thing about it is a lot of people saying he's not a breakout artist. But like he, you remember we used to chant and in chanting you must have the properties of being able to freestyle. The rhyming comes natural. You know, I remember General Grant, you know it had Charlie Chan, it had so much of them and I look up to them in terms and I say I want to be who I want to be. You know, right yeah, they days are no post Laurel, yeah yeah, what a speaker.
Speaker 1:Some people don't know what you're talking about there at all.
Speaker 2:Some people lost right now, yeah, but them days were some good days, man, real good days. You see, kiske, the Caravan, it made such a forum and the forum was even if you didn't make the team, at least you was in the stands Right, be it as a backer, a goalkeeper, wherever you was. You didn't make the team, but you was part of the unit.
Speaker 1:I got, you Got, you Got you One second.
Speaker 2:This is my daughter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's very mandatory.
Speaker 2:Shania, daddy will call you back. I'm trying to make some money here by promotional means. All money here by promotional means. All right, love you baby, all right. Yeah, you know, this is about realness. She's in canada oh she abroad.
Speaker 1:Nice one, nice one. You're making sure, daddy good, I'm not making the phone ring out for you to feel something wrong, because usually there's answer. That's important. That's important them first.
Speaker 2:That's what we do, but this is history because nobody not answering phone on the program and nobody is making it as entertaining as that but you say you are wrong at the time.
Speaker 2:Yes, never got the chance. Well, um, I never got the chance to participate in any of the events, but I always, in case, adias right, my mom and her mom she was the secretary of the place were good. She always said come through, come through. Mr Ken Holder, you know, and I tell different, a lot of different people I wouldn't say look up to or idolize, but their energy was very compatible with where my head space was, like Omari Kindred, you know. Well, grantee was Grantee, them time you couldn't touch, you know, but I used to go more or less to pay attention, not seek it, but pay attention. You're soaking it in. And I learned, you see, sometimes in life there's different phases and even if you don't catch it, no, that mean that, don't mean that you will never catch it. It's just not your time and you have to learn to catch.
Speaker 1:But I had to ask you about that, you know, because I hear many people talk almost the opposite of what you're saying. Many people the narrative is that somebody holding them down, somebody keeping them back, somebody, but the narrative is that somebody holding them down, somebody keeping them back, somebody, but you talk about being in custody.
Speaker 2:I find that is the easiest thing for people to say, and that's a bit that mental laziness. Because look, for example, right, it will have the few people that know Dzungi, but that is old school. Nobody here know me like an artist that's coming out every year. Nobody was expecting me, right? So what it is you have to do is you have to sit down and analyze the thing properly.
Speaker 2:I did my homework, I watch, I understand and I pay attention. I say here what's going on? Even though you have friends on the radio, nobody don't want to hear only Carnival Time. Hey, what's happening, boy? Everything cool. Game of Tuna play. No, after a while it's hard to get annoying. Of course, of course, yeah. So what I will do now is people pay attention to effort. The effort must be real, because you must know if it's Papi Shua or Manon, right. So I would go to events. Sometimes it has six people, that's all right. I treating it like the place ram. I see that giving it here all. So it's out of it one, it's out of it two, it's out of a tree. Then you start getting calls because people like the coordination which you're distributing, what it is you're going with. If he could get on like that with six and seven people in our place, you could imagine you know, so I started in them. The abc right xyz wasn't for after yeah, trust me brutal wait, tell me they're paying attention.
Speaker 1:You say earliest days in the industry. You tell my story about how you used to tea parties and carry them and bring them in the industry.
Speaker 2:Well boy, well, you see, some people like, like, let me say, for example, forget soca or regular weapon, right, we're just talking about music in general. Some people like, when people already establish, to jump on the bandwagon and say I, I'm responsible, I have the ability to see talent and nurture it Right. And too often you tend to say I break out this one and I, it's not break out. They had talent, they just needed it to. You know, marion it a little bit and, trust me, I had a mental seasoning to get into your cranium and expand it Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And Edgel Thomas and Ziggy Rankin it was not Ziggy Rankin, corey Francis. Everybody knew, you know, love them bad. Then love them bad. Now, you know, and you start chanting little competitions and things and, just like now, nobody not taking, right Not to say that an artist is nobody, but nobody not taking and nobody to bring on stage to slow them down. Of course it have to be somebody who lacks selfishness, you know. So step back. Only make some noise for this one. Make some noise. No people have time for that, you know. So step back. Only make some noise for this one. Make some noise, no people have time for that.
Speaker 1:You don't see it much again. You don't see it.
Speaker 2:There's a level of greed that is in high definition that has taken over. Watch me, jesus Christ, anyhow I have vibes. Man, I know 12 tribes. Man, you know, anyhow, man you know any of back to my brothers. Yeah, man, ziggy, now, boys, he did nice, give a nice little flat top, you know. Oh, yes, he likely it was no boozy like mega, but really like Mega Mega.
Speaker 2:Manton. But he had the ability to store it in his head Very educated. I know, not that I didn't do good at school. Peer pressure had me jump in St James, are you close enough? You hit my bums. You're for six and I was just boy. It wasn't easy. Thank God for Squeezy. So with that being said, yeah, boy Ziggy was nice boy, ziggy, we used to go up in Ziggy's mother's well, his parents' house. You know we used to drink. You know this. You know that. You know Pass idol thing we house. You know they say you eat this, you eat that and you know personal thing, we eat, we drink. But the main objective is to get him out of there Because nobody that part of Caranage that is a wealthy section, so nobody can hear you there and the wealthy people don't want to hear ooh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:You had to get to the ground Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it used to have competitions over on our side, which is Hague Street Right, that is Gaza, not Riverside Plaza and Flyon was the DJ Right Aldrin, old school general in the area, used to keep like chanting competitions. So, ziggy, he used to get a little money on his side, take money and tell me well, we have a uniform. So I went in town buy two tie-dye jersey. But his mother it was not that she disliked me, it was she was more focusing on securing her son because this person keep coming, coming, coming. But I trained to my name a very team and watch me.
Speaker 2:I walk my way into the family to the same jungle eat, laughter, miss Deanna, big up, I love you, mr Hugh, I love you same way. Jungle eat. And they used to prepare little thing and I say, good, I get him now, right, I used to thief him now and he said I'll go in all about where they will see, we'll pass through a truck and reach over on Hague Street. So people started seeing him Because I had a bad owner mic over there. You know chanting Easy, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, with that being said, when you come from, you know slow, you just take your time and walk right, guri. So what I'm saying is when you come from this part of life, tell me when you're done. Now I ain't feeling no done boy. When you come from this part of life and you come over in the Gaza, people watching you so and it's long more weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what we need to stop. But I have to solidify the fact that he is me true and I am him right. And in the chanting competition, people start cursing bye, ziggi father was the ex-minister of works. Yeah, yes, the honourable Mr Hugh Francis, you know, and with that being said, now hold that mic boy. I have to explain to them first. The Honorable Mr Hugh Francis, you know, and with that being said, now hold that mic boy. I'll explain to them first, because I hear what they're tearing up.
Speaker 2:Yeah boy, you could get lit up there you see this man here, this is we, and after we is we. Somebody say boom bang, they're watching us. Oh, you waited, but the guy in the big, julie Mango training back right there where you used to sit he waited what?
Speaker 2:but the year I was big, julie Mangochini, back right there. We used to sit on right. It's the first time I saw, because remember where I come from, a single parent and things were a bit tough, but we were never under poverty. People tend to, but we we come from. Poverty is not lack of money, poverty is lack of options and I never had no hard upbringing. But what you don't know and most of the people don't know I grew up in the bush right. When you go in on shakarama stuff, scallywag well, they pass kaliwa. Can you bend the corner to go down Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm come from your car, you know, of course. So there's a latrine, there's rainwater, there's this or that. So I develop a thing for people who try, and so I'm willing to give anybody a chance, because people used to bypass me in the bush when the rain not falling, we live in the swamp, we have water hole, and you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So the family end up with high blood pressure throughout because everything we we didn't have fridge and things, so we used to corn and catch fish. So we corned everything for it to last. And that is from since. Ptsd had Thomas bus with the green strip and only going bzzz, bzzz, you catch me, salvatore building, building, you're getting your ID card. Yeah, that's the dream. What is?
Speaker 1:that People don't know. Salvatore building You're lusting people.
Speaker 2:Dr Eric Williams no swaying, he didn't even have the hearing, idiot he ain't gonna do it.
Speaker 2:Oh god, watch me. After one time I screwed by you. So with that, you know I love my Ziggy and it was Ziggy ranking. He never changed it. I was Jungi ranking and he said he wanted to be a ranking too. So it was Jungi ranking, ziggy ranking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And boy, after I done, let our crowd know he is he. If I don't control the thing, I have to be able to control all of you, because any time all of you rush my partner, he's backing away with that mic and I'll be there, merciless, with that mic. Yeah, that's your crowd now.
Speaker 2:So we, it had a thing. I think it's Lady Sok, whatever the person's name is. They're paying me. Man had a right. Two men have a right to say tin, tin, tin and we, just we win that competition. Nice, the people accept us.
Speaker 2:And then we bounce up Ninja Tsu, who was ninja, from Asylum. Yes, at that time there was no Asylum yet. Yeah, there couldn't be. He was just vouching and trying to get a run, but he could sing over anything here. Bad, just vouching and trying to get her wrong, but he could sing over anything here. Yeah, bad, bad ass. So I pulled in red la red ziggy, dr maximus snow, which was magadan them time. Yeah, normal, nice normal. But the thing about it is he never put on anything. What you see now is then, because I used to wonder, like Sad is always serious, but he's not serious. He was paying attention to development, you know, and he wanted good for himself and very, very talented. And I hear him. You know I used to go Rai, which is King Courage. Now, that time was Rai, he had a little diet, sushama, pulling bull. For those who don't know, pulling bull is not what you're thinking. No, no, no, no, counting like taxi hustle you catch me.
Speaker 1:Teach them that. Teach them, stay with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he used to pull bull by Bones Road. Everybody know. Ryan, how can I encourage he had a little diet sushi. I'm had the whole trunk rotten. Not forgotten Records in the back and we go and pick up Maximus. Why are you saying Maximus, pick up a Jill which is my goddard? Yeah, yeah, he, mummy oh, they're going again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he going going down Caranage. Moms Go jump in. We leave like we're going down Caranage Kill a little bit by La Hulken, because we know we're going out and mommy watching. I know mommy can't see when I tell her I drive Blade. So me, maximus at the time, magadan Right, you used to go all about, all about and watch me. I just started to improve. When I say improve, the more you do something is, the better you get. Yeah, yeah, and I feel real good about them today, you know, yeah but I sure they feel real good to see you this year too.
Speaker 1:I sure they feel good themselves, you know, when they see you out there well, they both just call me regularly.
Speaker 2:You know, give me a little advice, because at the end of the day, you know what I mean when they see you out there. Well, they both just call me Regularly. You know, give me a little advice, because at the end of the day, that chanting thing Played out. They took it To a professional level, a business aspect, so it have a lot of the things that I didn't know, that they involve me. They tell me and yeah, we keep it real, real good. You know, I used to feel real good them time I had a little problem. And I go in Canada, yeah, and boy, I only day only watching thing them fellas mass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're seeing them rising Anytime.
Speaker 2:We have to throw some for this place, but we always alcohol right Anytime. Yeah, they cannot touch. Yeah, well, I want. Yeah man, yeah they cannot touch, yeah, man. Kia drink on one foot. So I used to watch them. Watch me the nice.
Speaker 1:From the start, from the get go.
Speaker 2:But Maximus Eteno, who better than who? Both of them good in their own way and both of them excellent they don own way, and both of them excellent and both them make their own lane too. They don't need and that is something from long they don't need a song to entertain a crowd.
Speaker 1:Let me talk about that a little bit now because I don't marry. It's about kindred, right? Yes, and one of the things you say, which was a powerful statement, was the idea of just where you say, running by a radio station trying to get a radio to promote your tune and them kind of thing.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I guess dj's fed up with people, it's a thousand song coming out by every day now, right, yeah and you were saying that one of the things they had pride itself on as chanters yes, is being able to entertain a crowd a song that nobody don't know. Yes, and I see you by a poolside boy. It's one of the greatest things I see on Instagram in a while. I see you run off a stage and run around a pool.
Speaker 2:No, because the DJ was bowling I would have done perform.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is after Iowa.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a couple of people perform and people bowling with me, because I stand up there in this big. What mess are you playing for? I?
Speaker 1:know the football team.
Speaker 2:But first I like the Ziggy and the Maximus Maximus used to do that years ago, remember in the soccer t-shirts. Yeah, I remember that right. I say you see me, me care, going, tom, and pay no five and six for this. And that right is soccer Josie in the bumbo. Yeah, you're going. Yeah, porna, into Miami or wherever the man is before the short.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, into Miami when the next one always running him down the bodyguard, yeah, yeah, and I go now and I just rock back me and him feeling to myself, but people paying attention, right, right. So it have a squad in the corner, so the ball in the weight, not Jungi singing.
Speaker 2:I was a sing. But after George Donna say, boy, I go just rock back, rock back, I said you me a matter what, you don't quite up yet to take Hudson and I QDDG, and I was TC, tc, tell how we squeeze, you need a boy. So he said, right now the man with the biggest one to you none. But you see, now I don't like confusion, what I like is growth. So I'm not saying I have the biggest room tune, but I have the biggest effort to grow, a tune that people don't know since november. And you wrote up and down. If you see me like a jam at here, there beer people might be boiling, but he going mad so you're waiting on radio, you're doing your thing nobody radio pays attention to the street, the street don't pay attention to the radio.
Speaker 2:So the gravity what coming down is from the street to the radio. And when the dj called me I said you can come now. Yeah, I think. I say yeah, I gave it, I wait for her with the thing and I say yeah, I gave him a wait for her with the thing. And one thing with me I'm very confident. Right, I got broco, I got handicap One eye, big head, big belly. Give me a mic and hush, I will do the rest. Facts, and with that I introduce myself. My name is Junge, the oldest breakout artist. At first people ask but why are you saying that? Shut up, I have the mic. I am the oldest breakout artist in the history of Trinidad and Tobago.
Speaker 2:Somebody say bow and I say bow. You feel like I stand up there and da-da-da-da-da.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see you take off. Give me some room.
Speaker 2:You don't wait for the crowd to come to you. I is not Jesus Christ, I can't run in that pool. I say you see that, try to run across there and get wet early. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I run around, give me some room to partner. Hey, hey, and you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But a lot of people thought just the excitement, I enjoyed it and I died for the mic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 2:Show the mic. And it was nice, yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see people accepting it, people accepting the song. From the time when the song come out, it constantly bill From the work they have put in.
Speaker 2:But the thing about it is If I had just leave that song For the radio to bill it. You remember, when you have four to six hundred songs you can't remember. I wonder if Joongi sing this here but Joongi not accustomed singing so you're looking for that, but when it is, you hear the streets are to pick up. You have to network your thing too, because I don't have no camera person following me. They have plenty of the artists, they have camera people, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:What I decide to do is whoever I'm going with you know or you don't know just tape me and I will zoom up. I will do my thing and I wait until two days. You have to give people the idea of what's going on now. Fresh, fresh, fresh, yeah. So some of them. They may not be in the megapixels, they're rich, but if it is, you want more megapixels, get a camera person for me.
Speaker 1:You know you have to take what you get. Well, you're taking it, you're taking it. I mean, coming from that era, chanting, watching men like Prime and Ziggy go on their way.
Speaker 1:It's impressive to see how, because then right To build a song. Then, as you say, you had to be on the ground, you had to hit spots, you had to meet people, network. But in networking you figure out some things in social media because after them, early days of chanting, me looking up to men who used to chant and sing the next time I see you speaker on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Boy between me and you. I is a man of many hats. I do like to wear it, but I just put it on. Is the landing strip clean? So how I ball it there Me, play no thing with them. Young girl and boy what do grandpa? No, I lick off the landing strip. Yeah, boy, watch me. It's easy. But here's the thing, before I forget, tell me Dr General Grant Arnold Don't even know. He know me, but he don't know.
Speaker 1:Who I am. He can't connect From the back of the deal. Yeah, who I am.
Speaker 2:Third day boy In PSA. He get a blame. He don't even know. I never tell him Because I say, oh God, boy, up to this day we're talking. Now. It had a show in PSA right opposite Longsicola Mall. Them Jamaicans come down heavy Boy and Lizard escaped. Lizard from Longsicola. I remember Lizard Right Talking about back in the day. Lizard escaped and Drew Screw was the dj, the whole of the db squad. I don't know if lizard was there, I don't know if bachako answer was there. But boy, this squad tick. But you know when you like the chanting, anywhere you're here you have a spectrum this place carnival city you're fine
Speaker 2:and I have this man from Caranaj. He was a cook on one of them vessels, so money planes are up on them. I do have it, but he paying for me, he like me, isn't he? Yeah, his name is Del Darby, from Caranaj. Yeah, and he said let me go and boy, go on to the event and I'm begging, begging to go and I want them to know who I am. Uh-huh, I wish I didn't go. Boy Drew Screw. He gave me a chance, right. And he said wait, no, drew Screw, that finished. The end was Teddy Muhammad. Yeah, boy, the father of Lynx, right.
Speaker 1:Lynx is Teddy Muhammad's son. I didn't know that. Yes, kevin Lynx Right, lynx is Teddy Mohamed's son. I didn't know that, yes.
Speaker 2:Kevin Lynx. All right, kevin Lynx, your ratings going up. Yeah, by me for sure, yeah. So they asked me what rating I want it was, and boy, they put on the big record. We did not know Serato and all them pato, and you know.
Speaker 2:So, with that things are to squeeze. And boy I remember it, like yesterday, because some people just put on show and make up thing. You cannot a liar have no memory, is not flash drive. So you have to know what you're speaking about and speak about what you know. And speak slow. All right, let me take a drink, let me take a drink.
Speaker 1:Let me take a glass.
Speaker 3:I never will make it.
Speaker 2:So, with that being said, he squeezed, you know that, and he put on the thing boy and boy. All the thing Djungi could sing about to get her forward is Lizard. Papa. I say lizard, great Lizard, great lizard, great lizard, great, Send for Panadol. Police get headache Early the morning. When lizard escape, he open up the cell block, he shoot off the gate. Remington steel watch man. Lizard, those skin teeth. He shoot out teeth and plate. I hear blow. I say no, it's my mind.
Speaker 1:Listen to me.
Speaker 2:I hear bap bap, bap bap, I say but it's not galvanizing. And I watch him, but long time is not like how Chandler and him have these improvised lighting systems. It was a long cone and it just opened the flap. So a man in the middle of the party had that on you. You can't see nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, light in the eye.
Speaker 2:So he turn and so I see him. I hear bop. I say nah, that sound like bottle. Oh, God. And boy them. Bottles start to ring like it's a machine gun. I said, wait a minute, it's me that pelted Because the team used the lizard thing to generate riot boy. Watch, my first time you know them big dog. First time I see Al Station, that's the correct name for the dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, back in the day, listen to me that exists again.
Speaker 2:They had the leather thing on their mouth. I feel it's that event. Expire them. Watch me Gone, take off from the handler. I'll station dog looking for the exit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, looking for shelter.
Speaker 2:Gone and boy them. Men started to turn over tent, they started to turn over thing. So, what bottle pelting for Lizard and the 90s dance? It was just a creating energy for chaos, all right because the boat bar. They did not get a rub. Rub is hello, pass your thing and stick up. No, no, no, no. The people left money, everything getting out back on the next day. Boy, hold on the sunday punch, remember them. Yeah, dance hall show gets scrapped due to violent lyrics and the whole general grand picture.
Speaker 1:I will never forget that.
Speaker 2:Remember, nobody don't know Dzungi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and his face and everything back then.
Speaker 2:Yeah boy, oh man Violent.
Speaker 1:And Since I never tell him, Well, when he come here, I go remind him. Whenever he come, I go remind. I'm going to remind him. Whenever you come, I'm going to remind him you know what.
Speaker 2:But that was chaos, but we had some good good times too. Yeah, yeah yeah, Because as a child, I'm not expecting the younger ones to know Like now it's Carnival. We used to look forward to our parents cooking pilau, Even though it was cold, slow, Just to come into Victoria Square. Adam Smith Square and sit down. There's a rollout wherever Shit.
Speaker 1:And you're there for the day.
Speaker 2:And you're there and you sit down and you're enjoying and Tambu swinging in her tight pants. Remember them days, boy, watch me what? David Rodda, bahia man, gil, everything and watch me Ding ding, and watch me. We were watching these people. It was nice, real nice, royal Castle, car Park, you know. But after one is two and the music changed. So what I'm saying to is no disrespect to no producer, but some of the music I'm hearing it's not appealing to me. I like real music. So some people will say that he's stuck. Appealing to me. I like real music. So some people will say that he's stuck in a time. I'm not stuck in a time. I know what it is I want and I know what I'm going to get. I like brass, I like live guitars, I like bass, I like drums. So if you listen to drinking rum, you will hear you're singing towards a band. You know it's very effective. Yeah, so listen, when I listen to drinking rum, you will hear you're singing towards a band. You know it's very effective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so listen when I listen to the song, right, one of the first things that hit you when I get past the ice in the glass and I get past that first part, one of the first things I hear is a piece of guitar riff. Right, and it's funny. You talk about PSA, right? You was there, so you know. The days were Brass Festival.
Speaker 3:When you was there, so you know the days were Brass Festival.
Speaker 1:When a band finish and a next band start, it's a real instrument coming down. It had no Boy. So when you hear a man play a guitar, what you have in the beginning of your song days, what would it be playing live in Spectrum.
Speaker 2:Well, I take that I wouldn't say is a sample, it was just an example. I like the rhyme.
Speaker 1:Just an example.
Speaker 2:Yes, and what we did is Kyle Peters from the Bandwidth Boys very effective, very, very bad. Yeah, no, satan Blockletter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he's smart, he's different.
Speaker 2:And boy, ting-a-ting-a-ting-a-ting-a-ting-a-ting-a-ting-a-ting-a-ting-a-ting, I don't know T you catch me.
Speaker 2:You were driving, coming down, yeah hard boy and he gave Keskis, which is Keston, yeah, keston, which is Keskis. At first he didn't like because he say if I'm not going back too far, but what it is I was telling him is you have to go back to foundation before bricks go on top of it, because you don't build house and then put foundation after. So I decided to experiment. Why does I run hard? It was harder for me. Why it was harder for me is I wouldn't say I'm a nobody, but I'm an artist slash entertainer.
Speaker 2:Because to'm an artist slash entertainer? Because to be an artist right, some may not agree, but you have my number, call me, let me deal with all of you. To be an artist, you're depending on the radio play. So you go in a crowd. Everybody know your song and the singing with me. Some will ask but why you only pulling up? Pull a shut up your mouth and let me do my thing. You catch me. I know what I'm thinking. I'm not running on no stage. Hey, hey, like a Baptist going crazy and the people don't really know. You pull up and you talk to them here. What's going on? My name is. That is in the history of Trinidad and Tobago. Somebody say bow Prove it. When the ball bows sometimes it's only like a 22, we don't use it again. I want to hear the AK Say it over Bow, all right, this is my rendition. All who drinking rum up there and we say tinky, tinky, tinky People can appreciate that you run out with it. There's your investment.
Speaker 1:Come on, there's your investment. It's showing, it's showing, it's showing. I see you, I see you talking. As I say, I saw you on Instagram, yeah, and you used to be. I've ended up following you because you just used to push positivity and at them days, you from back in the day, so I just fall in it. It's after a while. I say, well, with Junglas, there's the same man.
Speaker 2:Yes, but I got a Junglas name from Donji, as Jungia was, and he told me change it, you know, and get something fresher, junglas. But at the end of the day, I like what I like and I like, and Junglas does not represent me.
Speaker 1:Jungi represents me.
Speaker 2:So with that, I went back to the Jungi and it was already hard. Excuse me, it was hard for me. You know like people like to call me, pardon me, you know it's fucking real, yeah. So with that, you know Me, huh, what?
Speaker 2:So with that, you know it was hard because it will have entertainers or people in positions that not really glad with this big, belly, short man just come and just take a position I could have. But what I'm saying is when they were in position, I was glad for them. So now the bongs and the hug up start to become less, but at my age I have more life gone than what is in front, so I can study what you thinking about, how to study what I need, not what I want. Yeah, yeah, and with that being said, I will show you what I am capable of. It have a lot of things I'm capable of, but we're talking music now and there's no vexation.
Speaker 2:No, this, no that, no complaint. You either listen or you don't, but I'm going to pong it in your head like a hammer, especially a ball pin, and you're going to hear me, not listening, no, you're going to hear me because I come in, genuine With me. My aura is very normal, it's very humble. It's nothing I put on Like come here, dress up fancy. No old pants or sneakers, the socks used already. You know, and you just be yourself. Stop trying to be who you are not. People will identify it and they will say it's a fake.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it had to keep up too. It had to keep up them appearances. So from the beginning of the season they say november right to perform in front. They say six people and them say what's your feeling running on army stage boy?
Speaker 2:boy, that in itself you just have things to remember because I don't have a vehicle right now and to show. Show you how I am so, so pure. These are things people don't want people to know because they want you to feel they're so well off. Image, I do have a vehicle right now. I leave Eddie from traffic. They decided Jungi, we're going to give you a chance. He knew me from long when I live in Canada. Eddie singing where the fuck you hold me For my little daughter.
Speaker 2:I wrap she up in blanket. I buy a train and I stick it in a second-hand stroller. You hear I say People not talking. There is a level of realness that is not common, true, true, true. So I buy a second hand stroller the flag was new and I say I go in and watch Eddie and Chinese Laundry. Eddie and him come up with the band. Then they watch me. They're spitting fire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that man is the hottest thing, what.
Speaker 2:And I went to Lamport Stadium Elzo James, he's deceased presently he brought them up and we go and then my little child wrap up I know she called, she can't talk, she's a baby, but she had to take that as eddie and him. So when he remember the kind of devotion I had behind them you know, because people in canada I can't say america, basically canada yeah, they, yeah. When you see a soccer artist come up, these people coming out, they're all. So we always, you see, keep touch Auntie's, which is Toya, that's his niece, right, all of. We have a bond so we always link in. So I tell him I go in and sing and he laughing, so when it is I draw his attention.
Speaker 2:The song that I produce, not produce the song that I sing Kesky's was the producer Sharp, which is Jason Bishop. When I call him and I tell him this is the direction I'm going, he say yeah, but you're going sharp, you have to bend it a little bit. So I bend it to the point where I don't care what people say. Again we're drinking rum and Kesky say boy, it's too much. A different thing. Just for the record, let me press pause Right, hear this right In case you're wondering, but this fella heard all over the place. No, there's so much different things coming in at once, the fluctuation tends to go all over, but we're staying in one zone pertaining to djungi and the music right, we need a place for that.
Speaker 1:All right, right. So where we was. Well, you see Any gay back there. Strengthfully support your show.
Speaker 2:So Sergeant Job Paui Supers Life, support your show. So Sergeant Job Powie Supers Life. Powie said you have to be on my fed, but I back and I'll be, be, be, be, be. I said, all right, well, you know anybody. And he tell me about Sergeant Job and thing, and, as he thinks that the progress, matthew dissent, he are called and everything. And with that being said, they ask do you know any ban? Yes, I know ban. It have Marshall, it have A-Team, it have traffic. However, a-team, they just back everybody. Good work. But what I'm saying is trying to get on with A-Team, it will be difficult because it doesn't have so much people already. And with Marshall I never ventured in that way because we never, even though he grew Caranage, we never kept or we never had that communication. That's right. So why would I just? Marshall, you want to back me? Come on, that's madness.
Speaker 1:So Sergeant Joe, responsible for the artists on the next.
Speaker 2:Yes, as well, as Matthew Got you and he said you and Eddie, you got traffic there. I said yes. He said once, eddie, tell you, yes, send me an email, send me the song, send me a contact on your own. I said all right, I called Eddie. I said Eddie, just so the conversation went. This person is a real. This person is a real, real out-of-put-it boy. That is Dwayne Bravo. Yeah, caught me at a real low time in my life and he never advertised what he did, but he did a lot up to now. His studio is available to me. I don't have to think nothing, nothing, just go, but a man like to see a man help himself. You know, it have people right now not happy with this Joongi. It have people right now fine, he shouldn't be where he is. It have people right now who wish they had the power to pull the plug. It had people right now who would do anything within their powers to mash the bricks. But is he doing, bravo, what he do?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, if you drink into the ups, you drink into the downs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Downs is just a next opportunity To get up. I hear you say that.
Speaker 2:He reinvent me With just a few conversations. Yeah, sent me to do courses Helicopter course, banksman and rigging. He just wanted to find a way One could make me in trouble Because I had a pass which was a blast. It wasn't plaster Paris, but it was in Akias and between me and you, let me tell you something, in case you want to. I'm talking about the demo, watching you see when you cry. It does not mean you're soft, it does not mean you're weak. It means there's a part of you that still need healing and here's a work in progress. And if you didn't know me about some years ago, trust me, no way I was bringing me here, not here. Trust me somewhere else. And you're one police in the corner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, somebody had to watch it.
Speaker 2:And now I think I'm doing relatively well, you know, and I think my personality can tell and Hmm, remember we was talking about all over the place. Let me come back. Smooth with grace, right, eddie? He said I have no problem backing you. Once it is your show, you talk to the promoters.
Speaker 1:I said yes.
Speaker 2:Who you talk to. I said Job, and they sent a number for Matthew here. I'm all right, let them know. Well, I ain't let them know. I sent song to the number they sent I sent email.
Speaker 1:I sent everything.
Speaker 2:And the rest was history. Now I'm not accustomed to a stage of that size and boy me playing no game. I went down for the sound check and they said the driver here first. I don't want to disappoint him. I said yeah, driver, right. Eternal driver Chungi had to look to go and get a taxi. Say the driver here first. I don't want to disappoint him. I say yeah, driver, right, it's not driver. If you see me blade, I go in and out stage and I take a car From here To Kwesi, kwesi to Tongue. I find the man in the Kwesi Taking long. I say driver, pay him For the whole car. He watch him, you know. I wonder if he carrying me Some way.
Speaker 2:I say no. I say you want to bring me Behind by the, by the grandstand? He say grandstand, I chop in him tongue. I said no problem, I hired a car from Tom Boy. When I reached Wendell I faced wrong, like Paul, because I was supposed to be there a while ago. I was out of time. He didn't play with that. No, he was not playing.
Speaker 3:So he said what do you mean?
Speaker 2:So I can't take and absorb that energy to go and say people will know. So all I said is hey, hey in my head, yeah. And when Eddie see my face light up and I said I'm ready, and when they hold that I'm like what. And when I run out there it was relatively early. But I'm not studying early or late. What I'm studying is I am on Army stage and a lot of people would like to be there and the crowd was not like like somebody they know, but they were appreciative of the fact. Look, the fella was running, all about six people.
Speaker 1:You see it, you see it.
Speaker 2:Look this, look you catch me. And look the fella was how he balling boom and look the fella was. You know what I'm saying? And same big belly Jones. I go on left, I go on right, until the belly side get tight I say, nah, boy at attack is going to take me. You know, all you matter, what I say wheel.
Speaker 1:Slow it down.
Speaker 2:When they pull it down. What people like with me is the level of rawness. That is uncommon. It's uncommon. I say here what's going on? All you Executes, you see this, I ain't know this. So hard now, all that to help me breathe in, breathe out, and with that, you know, I take in my little pants when I find the lungs feel like here. Right, so I say good.
Speaker 2:I say we gonna drink. Don't feel like part of the show it's dead. I want to drink and watch me. I like to drink my rum, but you see, for the younger ones, just like um Kyrie, people also gave me a chance. That's what I'm different, yes, and that is not a normal stage. That is also a large stage and I listened to Richard last year when I told him I want to come on and sing, he explained me something that nobody explained. What he said is Trungia. I want to explain you something. When I said Richard, richard from Kairi People, he said if it is people paying for a professional service, they come to an event. They come to an event If I bring you on the show is going to dip because you don't have that level of cough. Those weren't his exact words, but I know what he's talking about and instead of getting vexed and saying boy, they're fighting, I go no, no, no. I say one cough, I go get a cough Whip kick for this carnival coming.
Speaker 1:Oh, so that was with the last year too.
Speaker 2:That was last year. Yes, I told him I am going to be on Carrie People events. He said, good, I like this spirit. And with that he also paid attention to effort. And with that effort he called me and said for sure, different Bop, bop, bop. We go thing as we're going along. And, with that being said, end up on the stage. Now it had a girl to the front. She wasn't black, she's also a paying patron, so she is subject to her opinion. I cannot know. I was singing and she motivated me in such a way she didn't know she nah, nah, nah.
Speaker 3:That is not, it, that is not it, you remember?
Speaker 2:She don't know me, she's not feeling the song. Very true, but it's. From what level? Is she listening to what I'm saying? She's not even contemplating. Boy, he could be on suicide watch, he could be on this. No, no, boy, he could be on suicide watch, he could be on this.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, Of course, of course.
Speaker 2:Same thing Richard said. So, with that being said, I just smile and I tell the DJ cut. I say, hey, what's going on? Everybody Good day. My name is Jungi, the oldest breakout artist. This is my first time I say, but you know what, sometimes in life, when you're new, a crowd may not accept you and give you a big forward. But they listen Once it is serious and they know what you're about the effort, they will absorb it and they will grow with you and the crowd started to really understand that. You know, Because too often as somebody finds the crowd stand up on them, so the whole origin, everything just drop and die the end of them. Boy, the people are like me. None of the people like you don't like yourself. Because you have to be creative and find ways to entertain these people come out from who get horn yeah, all kind of problems All kind of problems.
Speaker 1:They come there and enjoy themselves. And what a release Right.
Speaker 2:You come there and son up on pim pim, pim, pim, pim and bam, you're walking for a full stag 60 miles per water head. You catch me Sing.
Speaker 3:Find a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let my boy ding In a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:My boy Ding Dong, you know. He come on after me and the crowd started to thing up and he, making a little joke, he say oh God, I should not eat boy yeah.
Speaker 3:I barely feel it.
Speaker 2:The people want to laugh. I'm not saying it's a comedy show, no but they want to be entertained.
Speaker 1:Come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tv6 called me Nice Miss Romani, and I went on the rooftop and I heard Marlon Griffin.
Speaker 1:Boy, it's nice to see Marlon in this song. One minute. I see you take a run. I see Marlon running coming behind you. The energy infections.
Speaker 2:Yes, before I started back singing, when I was now starting to Heal myself mentally, at our dance I used to do waka, so I used to play like a pulling to start a bush waka. So Chyney remind me, he say waka, waka and we laughing. But what I saying is another thing. To the artist, when I say, well, I is not an artist, I'm an entertainer, right, I don't need a radio song to catch a crow, evidently, I just need to be there in person and execute, not kill. I don't say I kill nobody, but execute my son, right, right. So what I'm going to say here now is, as an artist, you need to work harder. Stop trying to idolize people. People accept you for who you are. If you're a stummer, sing stummering Kitchen will do it Right. But what I'm saying is too much artist. You're more focusing on the look.
Speaker 1:Look at me the look of success, whatever that is.
Speaker 2:My belly big. I put on a t-shirt that I use already. I put spray starch on it, preferably the lemon scent, and it come back up. But he wear that already. It's mine. The sneakers are beating a green new balance. It's mine. You do like what I'm wearing? No problem, buy clothes and come as a jungi here. Let me hit your bellas. Yeah, you know, be yourself, yeah, because you can be looking rich and your delivery is poor. Of course, of course, of course. You know. So with me, what you see is what you get, and I'm sure they don't forget.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no. I saw that moment in different and I see her pause and talk. So I realize it's a lady motivate that she don't even know what she do, because I will tell you how I receive it. When I see you do that, I say, boy, because it's Carnival Week. Right, we see many years with Carnival Week that, from Skinner Park all the way up to Ash Wednesday. Yes, that does make fortunes of people.
Speaker 3:I see Superblue Winroad marching in that space of time when he released some of them times.
Speaker 1:When I see you take the pause there and you start to talk, it almost feels like you're talking to a younger artist, in a way.
Speaker 2:Yes, because a lot of them are intimidated by crowd. Look, for example, at places that I go and they ask me Chungi, opening? I don't have a problem with that, open, close, just make sure the mic on because they want people to warm it up for them. This is not no bread and toast out of me. Here you go on singing to the people like you don't know. You can't be singing as if. That shit and expect people to ball is pale. I don't know if it smell like shit. You catch me. So, with that being said, I am brave, I am confident and you are going to know me.
Speaker 1:I will let you see. If they know who is Djungi, they are going to know me. Djungi is the artist that your favourite artist know. I want to tell people that your favourite artist know about Djungi.
Speaker 3:So people are now going to find out.
Speaker 1:I have certain shows when people underestimated the headspace. I was at no game to find out.
Speaker 2:They have certain shows where people underestimated the head space I was at. You know, certain artists gonna say nah, nah, nah, when you're ready, when you're calling them, you know, boy, um, call me back. Now the verifier is your number. When you call back, welcome to B-Mobile. You know, because Nothing.
Speaker 2:And at the end of the day you have to be real out of touch not to understand this man taking nothing and making something. He ain't going to put me in a hole in my own drawer. So some of them are starting to camp out. So, all right, you have to pass here. You're on this event and I go in the event just to catch you. Old school, the entourage, not the Air Force one, the entourage passing. I said no, you can't be between the entourage, they're waiting. I said look at him there. I said no, he can't be between the entourage. I said look him there. I said what happened, boss? Hey, hey, hey, what happened? I said I want to talk, call me tomorrow. I said I've been showing my number, boss, and I now take the pump. Tomorrow come, I start to call what, welcome to be mobile. And I now take the pump. Right, right, tomorrow come. I set a call, what Be mobile, welcome to be mobile and these things motivate me. Third base Real, real respect. I give third base.
Speaker 2:Here's why, I give third base right when I came out with the tune. If I wasn't good for myself I would end up in a hole. Here's why I gave the song to John Boy. He said he had a pool, that Slam and Vibe City, and them just listened to. I said listen to this now and tell me, and to this Boy, joongi Boy, that song, that ain't you? You just think motivational this and motivational that.
Speaker 2:And he's thinking about why would I give that to this one? I'm not calling any person to give them no free plug, right? I say all right, but I say let me tell you something, bess, I have more life behind me than in front, and it is mandatory. I catch my link no, and he asks me than in front, and it is mandatory. I catch my link, no. And he asks me what I mean. I say I've been trying to find Independence Square for a while and I'm going down Frederick Street and it is out of my reach. I high wanna hit him until he borrow a ladder and get it. I said I'm going to use Chacon. I'm going to use Nelson. I'm going to use Chacon. I'm going to use Nelson, I'm going to use Duncan.
Speaker 1:I'm going to use Edward.
Speaker 2:I have to reach the promenade. And now you say alright, and he left me alone. And between me and you, bass Was very instrumental With it, was I don't know if it's constructive, whatever it was the criticism I took it and I said I'll go show you. And I started to work that song. When I say work that song, like a belly pain and watch me, I on Red FM have me, excuse you, that's what scratch me is yeah, back to earlier. Yes, and I started to work that song. Boys had this. And when I came off it was shot master g, right and wild child.
Speaker 2:And when I came off the interview and I come downstairs I seen somebody blowing me in a vehicle. I thought it was kevin x. When I woke up to the car, see his bass. But I said I wonder if bass Take me for somebody else, because remember, he already told me the song. Send me that song on my phone now. I said what happened. Listen to me. I take back what I said and I understand what it is. He was paying attention to my effort he was paying attention and it takes a real man.
Speaker 2:He didn't have to. My effort, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was paying attention to it and it takes a real man. He didn't have to do that. He chose to and he waited because he was listening to the radio and he waited for me after the interview and I sent it to him right there and he said I'm going to kill some real love with this tune. And from that time to now he has never stopped.
Speaker 1:Really. Yes, so you get any radio play. You find it in rotation.
Speaker 2:It have people telling me no, it have people just talking because it's free, right Boy, we not hear any song. I not studying all year. I know what I about. Right Right, so much artists in the carnival not hearing the song. I hear my song and people send me videos with the song. So I am thankful. So don't come to me when you're here in your song. I'm not paying for this thing, like no advertisement. It is free, the way you choose to or not. This year might be my year. Next year I could get big stone on our stage, or bigger than this year, but that's what I'm telling you. So you have to wear the thing properly, because life is a given thing, right just like coconut, it are fry as well as big.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how?
Speaker 2:about you know. So, with that being said, you know bigger beef, yeah, yeah, you know, real one, really motivated. Yeah, you know we that night Biff, yeah, yeah, you know Real one, real one, your motivation. Yeah, in a way that nice.
Speaker 1:And a nice time to come back around too. But something you say there about coming down Frederick Street and Maserati Promenade, right yeah, you know what's throw to me when I watch the video for the song. The first thing I see here is in front of TV, you see. I had to mash up a stage, like with Ronnie McIntosh. Don't make me put that in front of you.
Speaker 2:Between me and you. I went back to old school. A lot of people didn't even know who I was speaking about, but that was when he was singing with Blue Ventures, and that's a couple years ago. Right now we have people not even reaching the age of that time, you know, and Ronnie Mc, reaching the age of that time, you know, and ronnie mackintosh. Some people would say super. I don't have a problem with that, but I don't like. I like.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say underdogs, I always like the people that don't get easy yeah I understand, you know, and ronnie mackintosh, when I was in canada I get myself in some trouble and I had to leave the country. But I was paying attention to what's going on, so I didn't like music so much. Ozzy Gurley he produced, who Let the Dogs Out. Anytime I hear Trinidadian artists coming up there, I would go by the studio and find a reason to be there. So it would have nights. I would go and play like a cleaning out and this and that Me and Ozzy get. Good, he doesn't realize he likes my energy because I could work my way into here. So what I did is I would clean out, I would this, I would that and play like a sleeping. But I know I want to be there. Yeah, you want to be around when they reach. And boy, I was there when Ronnie did most of his songs, I was there when this was in Canada, ronnie was recording over there.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:I was there when Anselm did who Let the Dogs Out. Wow, a lot of people, yeah and yeah, fascinated off of somebody. But too often people like to think they watch American artists, they watch offer somebody. But too often people like to think they watch american artists, they watch. What about? Your art is here?
Speaker 2:Yeah, legends to me, you know, and yeah, trying to be like the person, but the person must be able to motivate it to do something. Okay, so when you watch ronnie, that the first man has seen a black felt at it does at all. I don't know if you still work with him, I don't. I don't know if he used to walk with them, I don't know. So when it is, he put on that felt hat and twist it If it are hairpin, whatever it, have it not falling. No, it's a movement from there. And he opened that trench coat and flack it with our black shoes and he sat adrift. I say yeah.
Speaker 2:So when I decided to go into the old school era, I was telling Kesky's Ronnie McIntosh and he was saying you don't find that too old. I said no. So the cameraman, I could not afford a video. So I realized, just to put a face to the music. I did a short visualizer, but I let him stretch it to the duration of the song. When it is, you're doing something and you're not in a position to do it good, you do it to the best of your ability, which to you, will be good. You're not a mad person. You're going to have people criticizing you. You're going to have the shoulda and the coulda. That bandwagon does come in. Why didn't you put in women in it? Why didn't you put in why it is? You didn't sponsor the video.
Speaker 1:You catch me, yeah, if you wanted something.
Speaker 2:I doing what I could do with what I have. I am currently unemployed, not overjoyed. Right how I talk.
Speaker 1:It's not real.
Speaker 2:I telling you Mm-hmm. So I did this visualizer and the video man saying no, but why you want to put that? I say you would understand eventually. So I said, just give me that angle again. My god, he said I said, no, get my good, I want the tv, I want to show ronnie and ronnie, if you see him anything, yeah boy and I say boy, you know how long I want to be on a stage, like ronnie, I already know.
Speaker 2:And he was saying but he, I said it have to go and that is it. Yeah, you know, the rest is history, nothing is a mystery. Dzungi here Doing Bravo. You used to say Dzungi last chest bus, but that was then. I didn't bus, then I bus now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to ask you About that connect Between you and Bravo. But that was a pivotal moment From when I see you do that, because I feel it takes a lot Like I see you do that, because I feel it takes a lot like I tell you about the confidence. I talk to you about success. It's words I hear you say over and over, but humility is one of the things, because when you go on a stage like that, whether it's a stage in front of people, by a pool or army stage or different stages, yes, and you're humble enough to say, as the oldest breakout artist, I think that's making connect to people in a way that, because all of we have something we want to go after, yes, and we might feel we're too old for it correct, or we pass that stage or we can't go back to school.
Speaker 2:We can't look for it, no imagine I have arthritis every itis, I have all kind of itis. But when I have that mic I I think of being a voice. But when I have that mic I think of being a voice, not for the voices, because everybody have a mouth. Even if you can't talk, you have a mouth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it makes sense, right Right.
Speaker 2:So I be a voice for the people that think to themselves they can't do this or they can't do that, or they're afraid, or they're this. Forget all of that, you know, just try, because anyhow you take it, just now we're gonna push up in symmetry. When you lie down in that box, you feel you could sing tiny whiny but, do papi, show yourself, because the people would know.
Speaker 2:And when I run out there it have plenty time my body hurting. People will say but he go fall just now. I'm not falling because I have a drive, I have a energy, you know, and nothing about me is fake, everything is real. You catch me. If I bust a fart, I go say excuse, I ain't looking to pass. If I belch, I go say I go scratch my ass, I go ting. You know, too many people trying to put on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, as if they're not human.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you and all Corey, you would have certain things you wouldn't do because you have etiquette. Yeah, you know, I still looking for etiquette.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't verify it no, no, but listen when I see that Ronnie, that was special, because I did see. You say I remember watching your videos back then. Let me talk to you about success for a minute. There was a point in time where you were doing a lot of videos trying to almost motivate people.
Speaker 1:It was very motivational for me. Where you're talking about success and I hear you say in a video I think you was in the beach in Grenada. I want to say it was in the water, right, If I remember my memory right In the weave.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I parrot his real mix up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Listen, there's real messages ever since. Well, Johnny.
Speaker 2:Bravo. He vexed with me right now because he told me yo Big strong, Bravo. Yes, your thing, Not a cricketer. Yeah, Johnny the bodybuilder.
Speaker 1:Not a bodybuilder. The bodybuilder, yeah, he go glad to hear you call him that Secret bodyguard.
Speaker 2:He used to move Boy, a lot of people. And then I lost. I lost a page with a lot of different people, plenty, plenty following, yeah, yeah. And I say to myself sometimes I wonder if there are people listening. Boy, no, boy. And then I realize it had a lot. Because look, for example, the other day, when I said the other day, just like how we just talked, I did a video telling people thanks, you know. And when I say, see a soaker entertainer saying I cannot remember, I just take any time out to tell you thanks, yes, you.
Speaker 1:Because I want to emphasize If they win the road match, they will post that Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I let people know that it have other people that, even though they don't give me a chance on a big stage, it's okay. Mm-hmm, somebody has got ball. No, they're not fighting me, they're dealing with business. They're not dealing with busting no new artist, even though he's the oldest Right. They're not dealing with that. They're dealing with put on who don't know to sell tickets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:But in between you could squeeze in a one or you could squeeze in a two. You don't even have to go three and I have been deprived opportunities, and that's okay. Next year is there again. It'll be next year again, God willing, you know.
Speaker 1:And I'll go catch them. Well, that's why I like what you say, because when I watch the way you're moving this year to me from the beginning of the season, I say, boy, no matter what happens this year with this song, guys are investing in what happens next year. It's the same thing Richard's saying. You know, because I think our promoter always had to study, not just the entertainment of the people on the night, he had to study what different could look like when next year comes. Yes, and I hear Richard coincidentally say the same thing about Saki. You know. Yes, he says Saki was around for a long time, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting. But Saki hold that with two hands, like you when he go on that stage.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, he let them go.
Speaker 1:He let them forget and he performing on all stages and it's something you tell young artists in different, or at least I interpret it as you talking to young artists Do free the crowd, Relate to the people.
Speaker 2:Stop being intimidated.
Speaker 1:You know what's the things I took from that too. I from that too. I've seen younger artists a lot of times turn down very small crowds, almost as if they're above that or put less effort because it's not a big name fete or a big name event or it's a private party.
Speaker 1:I see established artists, very, very big names, international artists, going to small events like somebody might hire them for, let me say, a christening or a birthday party or for their business, their business carnival party, and they run in and they do one song or half a song and they treat it without the respect that our crowd deserves. Where do you find that in you? To make sure that the people in front of you, because that seems to be your priority Beyond the promoter, the radio station, it seems as though, when you're locking people in front of you, that is all that exists. Where you find that?
Speaker 2:Well, between me and you. When I watch I wouldn't say how to put it I am at a stink before I talk and I didn't waste a lot of time. A lot of time was deprived for me because of my way of living, which was on the wrong side, and when I decided I wanted to do corrective surgery on my behavior. That's another nice one.
Speaker 1:That's a nice one. Corrective surgery on my behavior that's another nice one.
Speaker 2:That's a nice one, corrective surgery on my behavior. I decided I'm going to go, like a forensic pathologist, to the source. Now it have people stand up to the front of a stage. They come to listen to you, but if you're not careful you will feel like they don't like you because they don't know. You. Give them something to smile about, give them something to jump about, give them something you know what I'm saying and you will think that they're sour and your whole aura could change, your whole performance could change, and what I did is one second. I'm going very far. I want to stay back close. Why? You just ask me.
Speaker 1:I was asking you that connection with your audience.
Speaker 2:Yes, some of go re-see you me some of them, you know. I just want people to remember me for who I am, and they wouldn't remember me as a star. They would remember me as the person that make me laugh, the person that appreciated me for who I am. Because it's not to say I perform at high-end events, I perform at the basic street events, the basic cruise. So they leave with the impression he understands me and that in itself, because, look, I used to go in the prison and sing, I used to perform at the school tour. So me and Kevin Baker, we'd be laughing. I had a tune Helicopter I sat up, tutu was singing, but them children and them just came.
Speaker 1:Oh, you mean children?
Speaker 2:So for years I do have a song and I just go helicopter, helicopter and them just spinning and I'm feeling like yes, I like that. But now I have something that has been composed and something that is meaningful to me. So, if it is, I could splinter school children with helicopter. What about a proper, you know? So I pay attention to the people. You don't just run out the way. Dark as way, hide in your eye. That shows fear. Take off the dark as face the people, let them see you, you know.
Speaker 2:And in case you're wondering, because Mark Wright, he told me Jungi, you have to sing your song. Sing your song, Jungi, Mark. He mixed the brass, the different things that was recorded there, but we never sit down on a one-on-one for me to explain to him. I studied this thing. I made it a study. You cannot run on Unless you have a mega.
Speaker 1:Like Black Adam I know Blacker from Grenada.
Speaker 2:Even though he's from Enterprise, he will run on a stage.
Speaker 1:He will have them this year.
Speaker 2:He don't need no introduction, but I am not going to run on a stage and just sing out like it's my son about her. No, I am going to breaks. Pull up, introduce yourself my name is babababab, I am the oldest emphasize on the wooden block letters and then start to deal with them like chini bibi. Yeah, it's making the crowd, I feel people connect with you in the same way.
Speaker 1:The wooden block letters Right, yeah, and then start to deal with them like chini bibi. Yeah, that is, yeah, yeah, it's making the crowd. I feel people connect with you in the same way like your messages online People connecting with you and sometimes it's bigger than the song. Yes, because when they next year you're going to hear people say but what entertaining, no matter what it is.
Speaker 2:I create such a. I just think, no, no, out of no box, I just think out of the house I live in. And you have to come with ideas, even if, look, I could speak freely about what I'm going to do, because somebody could take the idea, but they will not be able to execute what it is I'm doing? Take nice Tasa and you put it with String guitars.
Speaker 3:Kyle.
Speaker 2:And you put it with Best Village Drummers, and you put it with you ain't end up for that now.
Speaker 1:You ain't end up once again.
Speaker 2:And the last thing, like a boss up shot with Serious Curry. You think I did too. Come on, you run that at 160. And the last thing, like a boss up shot with serious curry you think I did too Putt cover. What are those things? Come on, you run that at. Are you singing that 160? I burn. Oh, there's 160 now. Yes, I burn. Now I hit in your 163. But I'm going to be ready because watch me enter the carnival. I think I'm prepping myself.
Speaker 2:The belly's had to go year. Oh, I want to know this year. That nice that nice, that nice.
Speaker 1:So they go see Jungi next year, please go. So let me talk to you about 47 Productions now, before we get out of here.
Speaker 2:That connection with Bravo, where it's at While I was working with my my previous employers, he came to do a recording. But I wouldn't say he wasn't confident. He was confident in what is accustomed to, the cricket, but with the music he loved it real bad, it's evident.
Speaker 2:When I say real bad, he will spend whatever, but he needs a little motivating in between to bring out the best in him. So if you have a friend, if you have a, came to encouragement and I used to be wrong and give him a little encouragement. He started like he's not slow, he just takes his time and that. But he was aware that this person is somebody to hold on to. He heard all type of things about my past and he never judged. He did a forensic autopsy and he realized no, this is not this, this is this. We started moving.
Speaker 2:And one thing about me I try not to be like everybody else because you will be noticed more. It will take longer to complete it, it will take longer to finish, but you will be noticed more Because if everybody is doing the same thing, like where he is concerned, yeah, you only ask when it's necessary, not because it's offered. You know, and from that, from that time with my previous employers where he was recording, to now, we don't have to talk every day. Another thing is you don't have to talk to somebody every day. Right Out of sight is not out of mind, mm-hmm, and he has done so much for me, mm-hmm, and things that I think that is normal is also motivating to him. Got you, got you, got you.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, without I knowing myself you know, Mm-hmm, and right now we tight Anything to do with money. Well, he rich. Yeah, yeah, yeah, proper rich. Let me hit you this one and bring the mic closer.
Speaker 1:Tell me, tell me.
Speaker 2:Chungi rich too.
Speaker 3:I like it. I like it. Why the hell not why?
Speaker 1:the hell not, I'm not stressing. It's you telling me about success?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he motivates me a lot. Right and yeah, but I don't call him if he's going, so I don't want to be a catchment. You have to give a man If a man. Everywhere you go, you're being flocked by people.
Speaker 1:You're flocked by people after a while, yeah, you want to be, I get you. Yeah, but so whatever you're doing next year is with them. You're sticking with them in terms of your production and everything.
Speaker 2:Well, what I just do is record out of the song of itself, is record by the production Kesky's. Does the production Right, got you? And then we go and voice by 47. Okay, good, good, good, good. Keskis Schaaf, you know that's a small unit, yeah, but legends, you're talking about Rapid response.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these fellas and them is no joke, not IATF Rapid response. So listen, you tell me about Road Mix. Now that's Keskis and Schaaf who behind that?
Speaker 2:Well, keskis, we went by Kingston, right, very, very humble guy likewise, and he put together everything on his laptop, right, and we went by Kingston. I have to buy a laptop when money starts coming in. I want to surprise him, but it might not be a surprise, akin, no, no, no. Too often people like they use you as a bridge to reach the other side and they forget, because when you look at the boss, you make a lot of promises. If it is, look, for example, keskis. Keskis is my producer, you're doing good work and I ain't doing nothing for you. Yet what about if I am blessing you? You would do better? Yeah, you'll step up again, but, boy, I don't know, boy, when they reach there, the voice does change, how you mean? The behavior does change, the vehicles does change. And watch me, I will leave that alone.
Speaker 1:We're from Trinidad. Everybody knows, everybody understands exactly what you're saying. You don't have to say too much.
Speaker 2:So I have a road mix. Kesky's did the road mix and we went down by Kingston in St James and Kingston was very instrumental in the redistribution. When I say the redistribution, it had to alter this and alter that and he did what I never know about road mix Because at the end of the day I was old school, because at the NID I was old school. So this here now. I listened to it. Once Kasky said that good, or Kingston said that good, jungi automatically said it good. No one dies alive if you put it in a line.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to trust them, fellows.
Speaker 2:So this road mix when I finish here, I'm going to call Julian's promo Right I'll let them. When I finish here, I'm going to call Julian's promo Right and let him put it out yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it has. So wait, what we have is a world premiere. It's the first time a premiere in anything you know. But come on, let me pour something now, man. If I pray for the premiere, take me and Fata going wherever I reach. I reach Because I was going to ask you about that, because I Big budget is the road mixing. Yeah, this road mix Hard it bad.
Speaker 3:I want to tell you.
Speaker 1:I got a little glimpse of the road mix before we start here and I like the road mix. I find it hard. I don't ask you. You're batting with water, it's diluted, diluted, diluted. Yes, if you're going to, set me up.
Speaker 2:You're going to set me up Me from here, road mix. It was bad kingston and I didn't do anything, but just be there to observe, to learn. You know, some people, everything going is by me and me is by me. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, they come good. I want to take you in a slice of this road mix. I want to tell a little. You tell me something before. You don't need to talk about people change and thing. He asked my question. I go leave an answer. He says where do you feel Is it the man or the woman? I go leave that right there. There's a mystery to be solved. What do you say? The history is a mystery. I don't rhyme like you.
Speaker 3:I leave it.
Speaker 1:And he also tells me that he's memory and good.
Speaker 3:So I'm going to play this on. We're here for the rest of the season while we're taking this road mix here. Premium Drink me rum. I don't care what people say I like to drink me rum, drink me rum. I don't care what people say I like to drink me rum. Drink me rum. Drink me rum. Drink me rum, drink me rum. I like to drink me rum. Drink me rum. Drink me rum, drink me rum. I like to drink me rum, I don't care what people say. Again, we drinking rum. Like down in the road or in the drain. We drinking rum. This thing, it is helping so much pain. We drinking rum hold a glass and lift it like a crane. We drinking rum. Again, we gonna drink, we gonna drink. We love to drink we rum. I like to drink me rum. I drink it a dong in dong. I don't care what people say I like to drink me rum.
Speaker 1:I like to drink me rum. We feel that we drink up. Have a new rum cup, woman in the glory and everything come up. Them, woman, them, god bless. They come out to impress. Two days on the road, again Cannibal is rum fest. I don't care what people say. Again we drinking rum. Lie down in the road, don't let me drain. We drinking rum. This thing is helping someone. I like my line in there. You see, lie down in the road and drink and drain. I like that. We gonna drink.
Speaker 3:We gonna drink, we gonna drink. We gonna drink A little drink we rum. Drink me rum Down in town, falling down. I like to Drink me rum Trip in and out Falling down when I drink in a Down in town. Bring all the rum, bring all the rum.
Speaker 1:I don't care what people say, I like to Drink me rum and a road mix for the people and all boys. It's only one or two of you Artists do road mix for the, for the people and our boys. Only it's only one or two or a few artists do road mix and we appreciate the road mix. Brother, congrats on this season, I'm glad to see I hear you talk about success. For so long I hear you talk about success and you say I am not a success yet and I say boy.
Speaker 1:This man is a success like hell.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you're a success and you ain't know but a lot of people saying you know you done. I said one day I will make it right, but I know what I'm speaking about. And they but you make it. No, I make it. I am on the road to recovery. Yeah, and there's a few people will know what I'm speaking about because once you change your attitude, you could change your life well, boy, listen, once you change your attitude, you could change your life.
Speaker 1:Boy, listen, guys. It's no better place to end, you know, jungi, because gratitude, thanks very much. I want to tell you I messaged.
Speaker 2:Jungi.
Speaker 1:You know how much people inbox are echoing in right now. I messaged Jungi once. He said he'd come in and he'd reach. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:I just tell you that I have an interview with someone, but let me just verify the time and in under 16 seconds I tell you good to go.
Speaker 1:Effective and efficient, effective and efficient. So tell me where you're at for the rest of the season before we wrap. You remember?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I have. I have Dukies up at Paramount performing with Traffic Nice, I have Laird Agard management.
Speaker 1:You see performing with Traffic Nice.
Speaker 2:I have Laird Agard management. You see, laird is managed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, yeah when you have a rum too Laird, bounce a fine, you know.
Speaker 2:No, but between me and you Laird watch how I was applying myself and he connected to that. Nice, you know, and we lazed and everything was good after.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, yeah man yeah, that's good management, so let our friends, our friends.
Speaker 2:That is Westmoreland, by the sea, performing there as well. Jump Out. That is down on the Rock, back on the Bay.
Speaker 1:Okay okay, yeah, yeah, you're there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, passenger James' family fuck it Nice yeah, not yeah, passing through James' family. Fuck it Nice yeah.
Speaker 1:Not fuck it like a cusser. Yeah, yeah, cussing, it's all right, we drink enough, we're entitled, but any fuck it.
Speaker 2:Have a.
Speaker 1:Fuck, it. Is that Cruz or JT Petfest? No, no On the ground Got it.
Speaker 2:Nice splinters. I told him to see to finalize it. No one is telling you it's back and all done there. You know, imagine that's up Splinters. Yeah, JT. Yeah, nigel Maloney. Nice, you have a nice thing too, mm-hmm. As the thing can. You've all done there, you know, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Sweet, sweet, sweet. That's the guy with Indiglo.
Speaker 2:Nice, well, I did already. The DJs had to play it.
Speaker 1:But listen, I'm sending a message to the lad right. Somebody had to make sure you're in a juve truck. A truck on a Monday, a truck on a Tuesday, Because I can't imagine somebody who plays a little mass and plays a little juve. I can't imagine if you hold them in a truck in a jockey. Who do you have in mind? Do you have anybody in mind? I have Strive in mind. I'm playing with strive strivers from strive juve's opposite hot shop.
Speaker 1:They have a body and he doing a juve band from the hot shop in saint james okay, so I think there's make a rundown in wood brook, come back and then lime rider and is is it is the right crowd? Well, any audience is your audience, but is it rightful crowd? So tell, let I see truck boy.
Speaker 2:So what about? Strive you? You have that influence to ensure that Joongies, they are already just waiting for the jump. Jump.
Speaker 1:I go make the call I next door there every day, so I go make the call. Anything I could do, I go do we go connect, we go stay connected. You answer my call first and I'll answer yours first. Yeah, man, I want to see that and I play in Strive as a selfish question.
Speaker 2:So I'm hoping that I see it. The thing about it is what people could realize with me is as much as I'm a work in progress, I'm not rushing to be a success, because the bacon fry on the outside but the inside is raw flour, so you have to make sure everything's soaking and soaking I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:You're talking about my wife. Now Let me tell her about you.
Speaker 2:I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:You're talking about my wife. Now Let me tell you what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I know what I'm doing. I'm taking my time and putting in the work Everything will be everything.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you putting in the work as a fan of the art form and a fan of yours, I appreciate you putting in the work and you keep doing it. When I leave here, I'm going to talk and I go shortly.
Speaker 3:I hope to see you on your road, but we could do this again.
Speaker 1:Whenever you're ready with your next song. I'm playing no mass. I'm playing no mass this year. So our home, after after, strive right now. But once we once, once you settle, you sell me tassel drum, big cymbals, yeah, big horns. Whenever you're ready with your next year tune you, just let me know this is year wrong. This is no carnival thing I'm doing.
Speaker 2:So anytime you feel to pass through, even within the year, I wouldn't wait until carnival. I don't have two ideas to work on, but right now I'm mixing mortar. Once the blocks go up I'll go signal you and I.
Speaker 1:I go, come to you Well good we're here. Salute to affordable imports and the people here. We had a knocker glass before.
Speaker 2:I want to bring lead as well.
Speaker 1:Bring lead. Yeah, man, I cannot drink with lead and, let it be known, I cannot keep up with lead, right?
Speaker 3:Nah easy, I'm get it. Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Outro Music.