# 3 Peggy Horan, Mother, Massage Therapist, Midwife, Author and long time Big Sur resident.

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An hour and a half at Peggy's home on the South Coast. We meander through many stories of life on the coast.  You will soon recognize that we of course only have time to skim off the top of many deep, consequential and memorable stories. Hopefully we'll do more some day. An hour an a half is not enough with Peggy!

Please use chapter markers above.  Some chapter names:

"Fritz Perls…smoked a lot of cigarettes, very direct!"
"Geese, garden, cheese! Back to the land!  Belly dancing! But I was a city girl!"
"Big Sur? What is that? Are artists drawn to a place like this?" 

Names and notes from the conversation: Gregory and Lois Bateson, Fritz Perls, Early Esalen…the Barn. Meskalin, Acid…sexuality, Seymour Carter, Storm, Janet Letterman, Big Sur Coast Midwifery,  John Horler, Karl Lee, Honey Rose, Bunny Gries, Stephanie Healey, Horst Meier, Tony Wagner, Arica, Lucia & Jasmine, Jack Downing Arica training, Gazebo, Brita Ostrom, Theresa Bradford, Judy Share, Linda Padilla, Candice Romanov, Melanie Lerner, Patty Villa, David Abel, violin, Richard Andersen, clarinet, Café Amphora, Doug Madsen, John Larmor, Jaime Morton, Robin and Billy, Bill Rose, Hope Rose, George Leonard, Maslov, Stanley Grof…

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Chapters

• 2:25 Warren Leopold handcrafted house…
• 5:00 Columbia University, fun NYC life…
• 6:00 1966 first time at Esalen: Ed Taylor, flaming red hair, very few teeth…
• 7:50 Fritz Perls…smoked a lot of cigarettes, very direct!
• 9:50 How did you make the decision to move to Big Sur/Esalen?
• 13:40 Drugs, work scholar, working the kitchen, Ron Martin…
• 15:00 'Found' massage. What is massage good for?
• 18:10 The first massage I ever gave.
• 19:00 We worked naked, no boundaries.
• 20:00 If an erection happens, it happens.
• 21:30 Feeling deeply peaceful.
• 23:30 Teachers Seymoure Carter, Storm, endless learning…
• 24:30 Arriving 1969 in November…learning to be honest with myself and others.
• 26:00 Spiritual tyranny…I don’t need a Guru!
• 28:00 Casparian. (K?)
• 28:20 Dick Horan: Let’s trade massages…(-: Early days living at Esalen…nesting!
• 33:00 Lucia comes along. Dick leaves to chase young women, trouble, heartache, lessons…Stepson Jonathan. It was crazy!
• 37:03 Honey Rose, Vicki Topp, Stephanie Healey.
• 39:20 Geese, garden, cheese! Back to the land! Belly dancing! But I was a city girl!
• 42:00 Dance group: Theresa Bradford, Judy Share, Linda Padilla, Candace Romanov, Melanie Lerner, Patti Villa, John Larmor (Mary Lu, too shy!). Richard Andersson, David Abel…
• 46:15 Birth of the Big Sur Natives.
• 48:25 Thank God for Gazebo!
• 50:45 Creating a home now with Jasmine and Lucia!
• 53:00 Changes? Tourism…South Coast vs North Coast!
• 54:00 Treebones - Sushi - tremendous!
• 55:10 Esalen - What does Esalen mean? Human potential movement? Alan Watts, Stanley Grof, Maslow, Bateson, Dick Price. Fabulous! We had heroes. The integrity of the Place itself.
• 59:15 Big Sur? What is that? Are artists drawn to a place like this?
• 1:02:00 The moment of first stepping into Esalen & into the baths.
• 1:04:30 Pacific Valley School for Jasmine and Lucia. It was Crazy!
• 1:06:50 Air Force 1 / Willis!
• 1:09:50 The Highway - A big part of my life? Midwife runs in the rain! Wild!
• 1:11:10 MIDWIFERY and how it started. Vicki, Debra, Brita…and Horst! (useless!) Psychedelic! Honey, Robin, Mary Lu…about 100 births over the years. Magical births at home!
• 1:19:00 What about Birthing nowadays - has it gotten better?
• 1:21:20 Big Sur/Esalen, overall how has it changed?