Revisiting the 17th Academy Awards

In this episode we discuss the winners of the big three awards at the 17th Academy Awards. Going My Way won Best Picture. Was that the right choice? We also discuss the Best Actor and Best Actress winners and decide who should have won those. Do you agree? Let’s talk about it! Click to listen! 🎥🎥🎬🎬

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Hello, and welcome to Cinema Chat with David Heath, and I am your host, uh David Heath, and this is the podcast where we talk about movies from every era and just about every genre. And we have been doing an ongoing series, but kind of a recurring series on the Academy Awards. And we have been evaluating, if you haven't listened to all the episodes, uh, we have been evaluating each Academy Awards uh ceremony and deciding uh if the big three categories best picture, best actor, best actress, were the right choices. And so we just kind of re-litigate the the the whole deal. And so we have reached the 17th Academy Awards ceremony. And so basically what the rules are, if you haven't heard the other episodes, is we just go over the the category of best picture, list all of the ones that all the movies that got nominated, and and then we kind of break down uh if that one is the right one that should have won. Looking back on it, well, now eighty eighty-one years later, we did did Going My Way deserve the best picture? And did Bing Crosby deserve best actor for winning the award? And did Ingrid Bergman deserve the best actress award for Gaslight? Uh so what do you say you go my way and let's find out? Of course, this is my opinion. Uh you can take it for what it's worth. Uh we will also, by the way, mention some movies, some cat in the in the other categories. We'll we'll talk about uh people that were not nominated, they were completely snubbed, and maybe bring them into the mix. And a few times we have given pe uh movies and actors uh the award that they didn't even get nominated for. As our friend John DeLeo would say, not even nominated. Uh the ceremony was held March 15th, 1945, and of course it honors the films from 1944. Uh it was hosted by Bob Hope, and it was also uh I broadcast on the radio, and uh you can YouTube it and actually hear the the broadcast. Uh it's not very good quality, but uh it is there if you choose to do so. Uh but uh the let's go over the best picture. We go do the best picture, then best actor, and then best actress. Uh kind of flip-flop the way it's done in the real ceremony. But and uh what we're going to do again is tell you the ones that were nominated, and I'm going to tell you a few that should have been nominated, in my opinion, and then uh we'll decide ultimately who should have been the winner, or if Going My Way is the one that deserved it. So let's go. What do you say? Bing. Uh let's see. Going My Way, of course, was nominated and won the best picture. Uh and uh yeah, Going My Way was uh not really a musical, but it had some music in it, quite a bit of music, actually, but uh but not really a musical in the classic sense of what you'd say. But uh basically Bean Crosby plays a young priest uh entering uh as an associate at a uh at a church uh that is uh kind of uh dying a little bit and has kind of somebody from the old guard uh in charge of it. And then the the movie shows their clashes. Uh the one is very conservative in thinking, and the other one is more liberal and more worries about kids and and uh that type of thing. But um uh but the movie won uh Best Picture, of course, stars Bing Crosby, uh one of the most fabulous singers that ever lived. And he does a pretty uh good job here in the movie, and even one Best Actor, and we'll get into that in a few minutes. Uh but um uh let's see, did it deserve it? Let's go over the other nominees. Uh let's see, well, we have uh one movie called Double Indemnity. Now we have seen uh we've talked about that movie on the podcast. Uh if you scroll back uh several years, uh we had a really fun conversation about double indemnity. And of course, uh that's uh Fred McMurray and Barbara Stanwyck, uh, where in the beginning of the movie, or toward the beginning of the movie, uh they off her husband and in an attempt to collect uh double indemnity from the insurance company uh for uh an accident. There wasn't really an accident. Uh but the film noir directed by Billy Wilder, and uh I've documented more than once that that's one of my favorite movies uh that ever existed. Uh but it's followed by another great movie uh called Gaslight, starring Charles Boyer and of course Ingrid Bergman. And also has a Dana Andrews with uh an excellent uh performance, uh kind of plays the uh the mediator, if you will, of the movie. But boy, oh boy, what a what a good film that is. It also has Angela Lansbury in a very memorable role. Um and basically the gaslight, if you haven't seen it, uh we try not to give out too many spoilers, but gaslight uh basically this movie came out, and this is where the term gaslight that you see uh 80 years later on the social media could say, don't gaslight me. You know, that's where this came from. Uh basically, uh Charles Boyer uh plays a man that that uh uh tries to make his wife think that she's crazy, and uh and it's uh very intense and uh very slow, methodical, very much of a slow burn. But um the movie isn't is not overly long. It it's actually a perfect uh perfect length, uh, but it's just a absolutely fabulous uh film. And uh then we have uh uh Since You Went Away, uh directed by David O'Celznick, and in that movie we have uh Claudette Colbert and Shirley Temple and um and Joseph Cotton. I apologize. Uh but uh the um I I I think I said Jade Dane Andrews, but I meant to say Joseph Cotton earlier. Uh but so uh Joseph Cotton is in in this movie as well. Um I have no idea how I got it mixed up there, but in any case, uh yeah, Monty Woolley and Lionel Barrymore has a a moment in the film uh as a priest. But basically, uh the film, um like so many others, uh, it depicts time during the war, uh, World War II, and how uh uh a woman and her daughters uh are handling things while while they're while the man in the house is out fighting in the war. And uh it kind of depicts uh a sort of an idyllic home that has been interrupted uh by this war, which obviously happened all over the place. Uh since you went away, very good movie. Uh that's not gonna be the winner for me, though. It is a very good movie, though. Um and then we have Wilson, which is uh uh what do you say about Wilson? Uh uh directed by Henry King. Uh it stars uh Alexander Knox, uh Charles Coburn, and and Geraldine Fitzgerald. Uh also has some Benson Price in it. Uh but wow. Um it's not a um it's not a fun movie to watch. Uh if you look on Letterboxd or on uh IMBD, you'll see people really don't like this movie. And uh, you know there are uh it's it's it's really it's really a slog. And Woodrow Wilson, um, you know, you can say what you want about his presidency. Um he was a boring man, it's very clear. And uh this performance um probably is accurate. But there's there's just not a lot uh to it, and and it is um I is a term whitewashed okay to say for this movie uh because they really don't delve into anything negative about Woodrow Wilson, and um it it's just a complete, completely spun positive movie. Um and there are a couple big things about Woodrow Wilson. This isn't a political podcast or a history podcast, but there are a couple things really that they're just uh you know hard to hard to overlook that they overlooked it. Um but it it's uh it's not uh it's not terribly done, but it is a real slog, and it's not fun. Um, and it is definitely not gonna be up on my on my list uh to uh win the win the Oscar. Uh so we have Going My Way, Double Indemnity and Gaslight, which we've left in. Um Ars Nicol Lace was not nominated. Um I think uh the movie is hysterically funny and it's really well acted, even though Cary Grant wasn't a fan of his own performance in it because it's way over the top, but it's still great, and I think that's what the film required, and I think that it's just definitely a movie that got overlooked with the Academy. And I know uh comedies aren't you know traditionally not looked at as as the same uh as dramas, you know, but uh Ars of Old Lace is is a much better movie, in my opinion, than than three of the ones that were nominated out of the five. Um uh Laura was not nominated, and I'll say the same thing about that that uh directed by Otto Preminger. Uh now Laura has has uh Dana Andrews in it, um but also Gene Tierney, uh which I think in in both cases um you could say potentially this is their best role or most important role. Uh uh Dana Andrews has kind of a long list, but uh but I think that this was just a really just Laura is just such a fabulous movie. Uh Otto Preminger got nominated for best director, but uh the movie didn't get a best uh uh picture nod or best picture nomination, and I struggle figuring out why. But there he is. Uh we have uh Meet Me in St. Louis uh with Judy Garland, uh the beautiful musical that takes us uh through an entire year's worth of events and at the turn of the century in the Victorian age. Uh I just I love Meet Me in St. Louis. Uh there's really good music in it. Um it's a sweet film, sometimes bittersweet, but uh but mostly sweet. And I think it's uh one of you know the next Wizard of Oz, I I'd I'd say it's it's number two or number three uh on the Judy list of great movies, but uh that's my opinion. Uh let's see, the uh the other movie that I know a lot of people will probably give me pushback on this. Uh probably most people haven't heard it uh or watched it. Um The Woman in the Window, uh, which uh stars uh Ever G. Robinson and Joan Bennett. Ever G gets a chance to be the leading man, and we see him so often be kind of like the third build guy in movies, and and here he is the leading man, and I love it. Um he's got a handful of movies where he's the lead, but but Ever G. Robinson, I realize that there's a lot of attention and a lot of love for him and a lot of affection for him, but I still feel like despite that, uh, he gets so overlooked, uh, you know, because he has just got so many uh so many great roles. And uh the woman in the window gives him a chance to uh really shine and be kind of uh it just uh it's it's really a not it's really a nice vehicle uh for him. And uh the movie uh did did pretty well at the box office, uh, but it kind of flew under the radar um uh directed by Fritz Lang or Long. I never will know how to say that. Um but however you want to want to say it. Um but uh we did an episode on The Woman in the Window quite a while back. If you want to scroll back and listen to it, we did uh a whole bunch on this movie. And uh Joan Bennett, of course, is just absolutely beautiful, stunning in this. Uh we got Dan Dierier uh playing uh a supporting role, and uh it's the kind of the bad guy, which he does so well in everything he's in. He's always yeah, we and my my son has this thing here where he always says, uh well, we watch a movie from the 40s, so we he'll say, Oh, there's 40s tough guy right there. And you know, if you anytime Dan Dierer's on the screen, there's 40s tough guy. Because there's a certain thing that the certain way they behave, you know, hey Mac, what are you doing over there, Mac? You know, that kind of thing. Uh but Dan Dierier was probably the best of all the 40s tough guys. Uh, but a a great little film, and I I think it's worthy of uh some Oscar of attention, attention that it didn't get. Um if we break it all down, um, out of the ones that were nominated, uh going my way, see ya bye-bye. It shouldn't have won. Uh it is a decent movie. Um it uh uh uh showcases being Crosby fairly well. Um but I I feel like uh uh I feel like Boys Town had some some similarities, and that's a much better movie. Um and I think that the uh Spencer Tracy. And I think that this movie going my way uh it had some off-putting um some off-putting moments in it, and then it was just a little too a little too long. Um and uh the you know the off-putting moments is this some of the music isn't really that fabulous. I you know, the the you know the parts when G when other when the choir's singing and not Bing Crosby, I don't need to hear that. I'd rather just hear Bing Crosby. That's just me. Um he obviously was a fabulous singer, um, but um uh but even his songs are you know not really when you know not really that exciting. Um Going My Way is not a terrible movie by any stretch. Uh it's not an Oscar winner. It's just not. Um, you know, it's not better than uh what do we we reached nine 98 Oscar ceremonies as of this moment while recording? And yeah, I don't think it's I I don't think I think it's probably maybe bottom 10 as far as the the Oscar uh films that won Oscars. It's not a terrible movie. It's not that awful, but it uh but it it's it's pretty boring and and just not uh exciting and and fun, and it's certainly not worthy of an Oscar. When you think of movies like oh the ones we have left, uh Double Indemnity and Gaslight, like come on, what are we what are we doing here? Are we really gonna say going my way is a better movie than Gaslight? Are we really gonna say it's better than double indemnity? Are we really gonna say it's better than Laura? Come on. Uh better than Arsenal Lace? No way. Me, me and St. Louis, no way. Even the one in the window, no way. No way. Um uh now I will say it's better than Wilson. Um, but I don't know if it's better than Since You Went Away, which uh is just a decent movie, a good a good movie. Um but um uh when you break it down, um I'm sorry, but I gotta give give it to Billy Wilder and Double Indemnity. Uh Gaslight is an awesome film. And I think some years it probably would be worthy of the best picture. Um not just some, but many years it would be, you know, if you go through all the ceremonies and see some some of the dogs that won, uh, you know, and you look at a movie. I mean, this is just a really good movie here, uh, Double Indity, Gaslight, like Arsenal, Lace, Laura, Me, Me, and Say Lewis, those are all just really good movies. Um, you know, and then it's just such a shame that Going My Way is the one that pulls out with a victory uh when it probably isn't top ten that year. Um, but uh you know ultimately I I I gotta give uh the my nod goes to Billy Wilder and Double Indemnity. Uh I think uh that uh when you look at double indemnity, you see the performances of the leads, uh uh Stanwick and and and McMurray. Um they're both so good. Um the the use of shadows is is perfect. Uh this is a noir film. Now, people all the time they they they they they assume um that people in the 40s knew they were making a quote noir film. No, it's very much like hairbands of the 80s. Hairbands of the 80s didn't know they were hairbands when they were making their music. They were only called hairbands later after the the genre was over. So noirs, uh the people that that directed noirs, they didn't know that they were directing noirs. They just knew they were directing a drama, and then they later tabbed it as a noir, and it just something somehow got it called that. But uh but um double indemnity is in in my estimation the best want noir um of all time. And I and I say that with a short amount of reservation because out of the past is is exists, you know, and there's about five others that you could say are right there nipping at the heels. But Double Animity has all the essential elements, and they're all played so perfectly. And you know, I'm not voting, I'm not voting for it because it's a noir, voting for it because it's a perfect film. It's absolutely perfect. And then you've got Edward G. Robinson who who swoops in and helps out with uh the uh the with the support uh and uh just what a fabulous movie. And we'll talk more about Edward G in a minute. Uh but uh uh but yeah, I'm going with double indemnity, and I think double indemnity should have won. And uh um I think most uh most film critics and historians probably agree with me. Uh that there may be a handful of people that say gaslight and a few people would say Laura, which did not even get nominated. Uh but um and there may be a once or two one or two people that say meet me in St. Louis, but uh but I feel like Double Indemnity is, you know, I right up there with Citizen Kane as like one, you know, one of the three or four best movies to not win best picture. And I think it's a shame. Um and um eighty eighty-two years later, we're gonna make up for it. And and I I unfortunately I don't have um any way of contacting Billy Wilder at this time or Fred Ngmurray or Barbara Stanwig uh you know or Eber G. But tip of the cap to him. I think this is the best film of that of 19 uh 44. With gaslight and Laura kind of nipping at the hills a little bit, but yeah, I gotta give the nod to double indemnity. Uh let's go to best actor. Uh best actor, uh Bing Crosby, as we documented, one uh for best actor. Uh let's evaluate here. Charles Boyer uh for Gaslight, Barry Fitzgerald for Going My Way, uh Carrie Grant for None But the Lonely Heart, which we haven't talked about yet. Uh, and Alexander Knox for Wilson. Uh now uh I can tell you out of that list, um it's not it's not Bing Crosby, because I don't think he's the best actor of this bunch uh in the movie that he was in, uh, or in general, but I definitely wouldn't have voted for Bing Crosby. Uh Barry Fitzgerald going my way, an excellent performance, um, but really it was more of a supporting uh role. And you know, uh I go know. Uh uh Cary Grant, none but the lonely heart. Um really, really good role, but his his British accent in this movie uh disappears a lot. And as great as Cary Grant is, and he was great, uh but he was really good at being smooth and just really cool and and able to suave and all the you know, you know, all the adjectives. But here Cary Grant plays a poor guy that does not have anything together at all. And uh it's almost like an extension of Charlie Chaplin's tramp character, almost. And he's kind of proud of though of being of being a tramp. Uh but uh uh Alexander Knox plays uh Woodrow Wilson. I think he did what Woodrow Wilson kind of was, but it was kind of a bland performance. Um so far, the only one out of these guys that I think is worthy of the nomination that that actually got one was Charles Boyer for Gaslight. Um and he was definitely being Charles Boyer. He's kind of like the almost like the anti-Krant. You know, he he a lot of times is uh he's got that same suave uh uh sensibility, but um, but he can play nefarious characters too, uh, which I guess Kerry Grant did too. But um uh any case, um we have uh Fred McMurray, didn't get a nomination for double indemnity, should have gotten one. And Eber G. Robinson, I'm gonna bring up the woman in the window again. Think Eber G. Robinson should have been nominated for the woman in the window. I I think it's a uh a smart, subtle performance. Uh and in the movie, uh, you know, he lets himself get get wrapped up in this beautiful woman, uh Joan Bennett, and uh and he's a married man and he gets himself wrapped up in knots, and he does so well in this role. Don't want to give anything away. Uh but uh The Suspect, uh it's a really good movie. Charles uh Lawton stars in that. Uh I think he probably should have gotten a nomination, and another guy that should have gotten a nomination uh was Claude Rains for for uh Mr. Skeffington. And uh I I can't imagine why he didn't get a nomination. Uh uh very again, a very subtle role, uh uh very nuanced, uh and he plays uh a man that's just absolutely in love with his wife, but he his wife just is not into him, and she married him for his money, and and that's it. And he uh resents that fact. He doesn't resent her, Betty Davis, but he resents uh the fact that she uh just won't learn to love him for who he is. Uh but uh yeah, the suspect star uh starring stars Charles Laden uh and Claude Rains and Mr. Skeppington, and then Dana Andrews for Laura. It's just an excellent performance. Um but guys, everybody's gonna be shocked. Um uh but uh my I think the best performance you know out of all these is Edward G. Robinson and The Woman in the Window. I think, again, his performance is very subtle, um, and it at times is very sweet, uh, at times is very tragic. And I Ever G. Robinson hits every note with this movie and and his role in it, and it's a it's a shame it didn't get nominated for anything. And uh I think that The Woman in the Window is an awesome movie, and Ever G. Robinson should have gotten a nomination, and I'm going with he should have won. So here I am telling you somebody should have won that didn't even get a nomination. As John DeLeo, our friend, would say, not even nominated. Um, out of the ones that were actually nominated, it's a pretty easy give to Charles Boyer. Um I think he did a remarkable, remarkably fabulous job uh you know, trying to convince Ingrid Bergman um that she was going crazy. And um uh just awesome film, awesome performance by uh Charles Boyer, and also awesome performance by Ingrid Bergman as his wife uh in Gaslight. Uh see we did a little transition here. Uh Ingrid Bergman won for Gaslight. And uh let's see, let's tell you who the other nominees were. Uh Claudette Colbert for Since Since You Went Away, uh she plays the matriarch of the home. And um Betty Davis, uh Mr. Skeffington, um, and Greer Garson uh and m Mrs. Parkington. And we also have Barbara Stanwyck and Double Indemnity. And uh as fantastic as Barbara Stanwyck is uh in everything she is in and including double indemnity, uh uh you know I I yeah it's I I I pr I'm I I struggle with uh the performances uh uh with the performance of Inger Bergman and Gaslight. Um let's hold on to those two though. Um I don't think it's Betty Davis because um I think um there might be a few people that thought that this was her worst role. Um, you know, uh I I would not be one of them. Um but it's you know Betty Davis doesn't play a likable character in this. Now she does that multiple times in her career, but uh but in this one she's just not she's she's really kind of uh just a terrible person. Um and uh you can't root for her. Um and Claudia Colbert uh hats off to her, uh, but this isn't her her this isn't her movie. It just it's just not. And uh she's I I think she's fabulous in it. Uh you know, when she's on the screen, she does just fine. But and you know, we're talking the big time here, and I just think she's short of that. Uh Greg Garson for Mrs. Parkington, uh uh just she's just marvelous in this role. Um you know, but um we'll hold on to her too. Um but let's also mention Gene Tierney and Laura, and uh Marlene Dietrich and Kismet, movie that didn't get any Oscar attention, and Joan Bennett uh for Woman in the Window. Um now ultimately uh Joan Bennett is a femme fatale and and and so is uh Barbara Stanwyck in Double Indemnity. And um I give this the slight nod to Barbara Stanwyck. Um but um uh ultimately when we compare that to Gear Garson and Mrs. Parkington, um I think that Gir Garson covered this ground a couple other times. Uh so we're not really going to give her the Oscar for this one. Um, you know, so that kind of makes it in between Stanwick and Ingreg Bergman. I will not to mention the the Marlene Dietrich excellent job in Kismet, but uh ultimately I'm staying with Ingrid Bergman and Gaslight. Um I think there's a case to be made for saying this is her best role. Uh it's a woman that has a lot of really great roles, uh, but I feel like this might be her best. Uh she's very vulnerable in it, and she plays uh not over the top, but very nuanced and very trusting. And you know, she uh obviously pays the price for being too too trusting. Um but I think Ingrid Bergman, I really do think this is not just my favorite performance of hers, but I do think it's probably uh her probably is her her best performance. And now, notwithstanding Casablanca, but I Yasablanca has so many great performances that nobody out overshadows anybody in that movie, but um uh just a fabulous film in every way. Um but I give I give the nod to Ingrid Birdman, who is the one that won. So uh we're gonna get into a couple other things. Uh and but but first let's recap what we've done so far. So Best Picture, uh going my way won, for real, the best picture, but uh but it is Cinema Chat's assessment that double indemnity should have won the Oscar for Best Picture. And for Best Actor, of course Bean Crosby won. Um, but uh we would have voted for Edward G. Robinson had he been nominated, and we had we had a vote because I think Edward G. Robinson and the one in the window is the best performance of that year, 1944. And for best actress, we are sticking with the one that won. The one that won. The actress that won, which is Ingrid Bergman, and just a fabulous job in Gaslight. Uh, let's go over some of the the other categories uh before we wrap this up. Uh best director, uh auto premature one for Laura. And uh, you know, I I often wonder, like, how in the world is a director best director, but the picture didn't win the best picture. Um, and I think that sometimes it's just an excuse to vote for two different projects. Um, you know, I I think sometimes people just want to they don't want to choose, so they kind of have a default way to choose, and where where they say one guy wins the best director, uh, but the other guy wins best picture. And obviously best picture is slightly more well, I mean that that's the coveted prize, obviously. Um, you know, but I think if you're a director, the um you might not feel that way completely. I think if you're a producer, you definitely want to win best picture, but um uh but yeah, Laura winning best uh auto primature winning for Laura, best director. Uh you know, I would give the nod to the one then to Billy Wilder. Um but it's really it's really it's it's just really uh just really close, razor thin close, but uh best supporting actor. Um this is where uh you know we get Barry Fitzgerald winning for going my way. And um I think it was a really great performance by him as a cantankerous old priest. Um but guess who I would would have voted for for best supporting actor? Edward G. Robinson for double indemnity. That is no joke. Edward G. Robinson did not have won an Academy Award in his lifetime. Um I'm saying he should have won two in one night. One for best supporting and one for best actor. Uh best actor of the woman in the window and best supporting actor in double indemnity. Uh two of his best performances, and they just happen to be the same year. Uh but that's among a lot of great performances, though. Uh Ebra G. Robinson, totally underappreciated, even though he is very appreciated in the classic film community. I think he's still underappreciated nonetheless. Uh, but best actress, uh, Ethel Barrymore won uh for None But the Lonely Heart, which was uh her screen debut. Of course, she was in um on the stage uh for many years prior to that, uh as part of the the the the Barrymore family. And um what a fabulous tradition that is, uh by the way, the the the Barrymores, obviously. But in any case, uh hey, I hope you've enjoyed the show. I hope you you have enjoyed the uh the whole revisiting of the Academy Awards. It's kind of fun to do these. Uh sometimes I completely agree with the Academy, and sometimes not so much, you know. And sometimes it's a little bit of a mixed bag. And I I think um the big categories I kind of were halfway with them, but the other half not so much. Certainly going my way, uh you know, over overachieved uh as far as winning awards, and it you know, I didn't overachieve on the screen, um, but it did on the winning awards. Um what do you think as a listener? Do you you you think I'm crazy? Uh I don't think anyone's gonna think I'm crazy for uh saying double indemnity over going my way. It's going I was so s I had going my way, I had never seen that movie until doing research for this particular episode. Um I was amazed at how flat it was, and um I just really was amazed at how flat it was. It just didn't do very much for me. I I I do appreciate the uh performance of Barry Fitzgerald. I I think he probably deserved that award, um, like we said a minute ago. But it just wasn't really an exciting movie, and uh again, if you're gonna watch a movie uh such as that, uh I you know I think watching Boys Town with Spencer Tracy is a much better call, despite the loud presence of uh Mickey Rooney, of course. Of course, I think Mickey Rooney in that movie needed to be loud, but she he can be so obnoxious in his movies. Um, you know, but anyway, uh hey, I appreciate uh all that all the people listening. And I would really appreciate it if somehow you could find it in your heart to leave a kind review, uh hopefully a kind five-star review uh on Apple Tunes or whatever you're listening to this on. Um, you know, I got a lot of listeners and I really appreciate it. 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