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Amélie (With Ginger Pauley)
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In this episode, we talk with one of our favorite guests, Ginger Pauley. We talk with Ginger about the 2001 film Amélie starring Audrey Tautou. We break down the themes, plot, and production of this beloved modern classic. Click to listen! 🎥🎥🎬🎬
Ginger Pauley is an actress with credits in big Hollywood films and also is the leader of the music band Ginger and the Hoosier Daddy’s Check out her and YouTube link!
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Hello, and welcome to Cinema Chat with David Heath. And I am your host, David Heath. And this is a podcast where we talk about movies from every era and just about every genre. And I would humbly ask you wherever you're listening to this, please uh subscribe to the podcast. Not only will that mean that you're going to be informed of new episodes, but it also helps the podcast move along the in the algorithm. And uh today we are going to be talking about a movie from 2001 called Amelie. And we are going to be talking with one of our favorites. Favorite guests, that is. Ginger Polly. Welcome back to the podcast.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. Thank you. I think this is what number six or seven for me.
SPEAKER_00Something like that. I've lost track, but it's it's okay. Uh uh, you know, actress, host of vintage America with ginger, such a great show. If you haven't seen that show, it's on Tubi, and it is so much fun. Um, and of course, you know, the leader of the band and the ginger and the Who's Your Daddies? Thank you. And um, and check that out on Spotify. When I have to tell you, you know, I listen to Spotify on Shuffle all the time. I don't order, I don't like ask songs to be be on there. And then whenever you want to hear songs come on, like Hoochie Cou, you know, um, that one's come on several times. Like, oh, this is so exciting! Oh, yeah. I know her, you know, kind of like Will Farrell and Elf. I know her. I know her. Yeah, it's awesome. It's awesome. Um, yeah, so check all and check out Ginger's YouTube, um, which is just under Ginger Poly, right?
SPEAKER_03Correct, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, check that out because um, you know, you you you'll be hooked. So there's lots of good uh stuff with Conan O'Brien and and yeah, and you got you know, of course, who could forget the wonderful silent film. You've been in movies since the silent time uh The Wild Man of Kakado, uh which uh you do your best we could do a show on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be fun. Um yeah, uh the the the cop really wants the donut, but uh he ignores ginger.
SPEAKER_02That's a little strange, but and that's Dutch Newman.
SPEAKER_00That is Dutch Newman, oh okay, yeah. We talked we talked about it. Okay. Yeah. Um okay, so Emily um is a movie that you had suggested, and um I I certainly wasn't dragging my feet about it, but I had never seen it, and I and I had um I I normally about about probably I've done almost 500 episodes, okay. Well, uh and not quite 500, but we're around 450 or something like that.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um, but uh but out of if there's 450, 450, um, then usually I I have seen the movie 430 times uh you know uh beforehand. Um and I've done a couple I've done reviews on some newer movies that just came out of the movie theater, but this is one that escaped me. And you know, I gotta tell you something, Ginger. This is so fun. Okay. When when when somebody has not seen a movie that is fantastic and I know they'll like it, um, and and I know I've seen it several times or whatever, I get a little jealous because this is their first time, you know, being able to see it. And like, oh wow, this is so this is so incredible, you know, that you get to you get to watch it, and I'm so jealous, you know, and after doing a movie podcast, it sort of spoils uh you a little bit because you end up watching so many that you eventually run out of five-star and four-star movies to watch.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00Um eventually you've seen them all, eventually. Um, but uh in any case, Amelie uh is something that um escaped me in 2001. When did you first see the movie and what were your first thoughts about it?
SPEAKER_02I saw it in the movie theater when it came out in 2001.
SPEAKER_00What attracted you to do it, by the way, to see it?
SPEAKER_02You know, I think I saw a trailer on TV or something. And um I saw it at the Beverly uh the Beverly Cinema, which is in Hollywood. Um, and they used to show old movies and uh independent films. And I I think it saw an ad on TV and I was like, oh my gosh, this looks incredible. You know, and at the time I thought she kind of looks like me. You know, and it's this French film, and this the the ad that they show is just amazing. And just the color and the look, and I'm hearing this music, and I'm like, I was just drawn to it. So I went to the movie theater and saw it, and I I was just dumbfounded. And I was so dumbfounded, I went back two days later and saw it again in the movie theater. So I saw it twice, like in two days. That's awesome. I was so taken with it.
SPEAKER_00My son does that all the time, by the way.
SPEAKER_02It wasn't on, you know, it wasn't on TV, but this was before streamers. I mean, you know, um, and all of that. So I bought as soon as it came out, I bought the DVD.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, this is that window of time when when there, you know, when we when when we were d m kind of merging into the online, you know, stuff.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00And um, you know, we you know, I bet all the way to like 2008-ish, where where where we could where movies weren't spoil where you know there weren't any spoilers or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Right. You'd be lucky to see it on like HBO or a movie channel or something to come and go, but you couldn't just see it on demand like we can now. Yeah. You know, and I it's still, I mean, I think it's available on demand, but only you have to buy it or rent it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I uh yeah, I did uh well there's other ways, but but we won't talk about that on on here. Um but I did I I I did rent it um and I I wish I would have bought it. Oh wow. That's um it's something I'm gonna go to again. I I can guarantee you because it's just it's lovely.
SPEAKER_02If you are interested, I I recommend you get the DVD if you have a DVD player, because there's two discs and there's um a lot of bonus stuff on the other disc.
SPEAKER_00That's really that's really great. What what so uh so obviously you loved it so much and like I like when you when you first saw it, my my son does this all the time to me. He'll he'll uh we'll he'll say, Hey, you want to go watch this movie on Saturday? And I'll say, Yeah, sure, we'll go see it. And then um he informs me he's done this to me at least ten times. Uh I watched this yesterday too, and like I go, you're yeah, you know, you're you're ruining it. Uh yeah, thanks a lot, son. Yeah, you know, he does he doesn't even he doesn't spoil it so much. It's just that it's just that you know the the experience of seeing it for the first time is exactly you know, but um uh so what are what are the things that you uh what are the things that you like about this movie the best? I know I know you mentioned music uh for uh it's a beautiful film. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's a beautiful film. Um the the lighting, the colors. Yeah, yeah, the colors. The first thing um I I think I can tell you, um, my husband's a cinematographer, so um when you watch this movie, you'll notice the colors stand out, the the green and the red, the whole movie is green and red. And the way they achieved this is they um they they shot the they shot the film with the film, and they graded it, they graded the colors and um tur turned it digital, graded the colors and then turned it back to film to get those colors. So they took out like the blue. You hardly see blue. Once in a while you'll see sky.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But the sets, everything is is red and green.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, it it it's it's really it's a marvel. Uh and I feel like this is what I I think this is uh one thing that Wes Anderson wish he did. Oh yeah. Yeah, I mean uh yeah, because uh the it's screams Wes Anderson, you know. But but it's but it's better. Uh I mean I nothing against Wes Anderson, it's just I just just think this is just better. Um and uh the the tone of the movie is just fabulous. Uh it it it's a movie that is a little more than two hours, but it's not it's not like homework two hours. It's really a solid two two-hour movie. I mean, as far as like there's no meat on this. I mean, there's no fat on this but uh on this uh movie. It's all it's a story that moves. Yeah, it moves quickly, and and I I mean the the thing is what what sticks out to me are just lots of little things like the the you said the camera work and of course the the ability to also move from the ground, you know, or film from the ground. Um, you know, you see a lot of pictures uh where it's like the the the cameraman is lying on the ground getting uh getting everything. And you know, and it makes me happy that you said this was on film because you you see the colors and you're and you're going, wait a minute. You know, this looks like CGI, but it doesn't look like CGI, you know?
SPEAKER_03It looks real way before CGI.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it looks real, um, but it also looks um cartoonish, but not cartoonish. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean it it's just it is yeah, I mean it it it it's whimsical. That's really the the best r term I can come up with to call to and and I feel like Amelie herself it's very creative.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Because it's like her experience and through her eyes and what she's doing. Um, because she's so creative in everything she does, you know. She's had to be creative since she was a kid because she, you know, she was an only child and and you know, her parents didn't want her to go to school because they think she has a heart condition. So she, you know, she has to be creative.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02No, she does things to do, and this is about that. And it the the film itself is creative in how they tell her story. Yeah, it's how she is.
SPEAKER_00It's unbelievably creative. Uh and oh, you you see all these moments of of you know fantastical illusions, and I don't know, it's just uh there's so much in here, you know. You and I'm I mean I wrote down a whole bunch of things, you know. Um the rapid narration. I love the rapid narration at the beginning.
SPEAKER_02Okay, the little girl who plays her.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02She's so much like her, and she's so she's really good. I don't I don't I didn't write down who the little girl is and where she is now. I I need to, um, because I'm curious if she became an actress. Um, she's phenomenal. And she's so much like her. In fact, there's parts in the movie where in the beginning she does something where her eyes are really wide, and then later on you see her doing that again as an adult. That same look, like that same face. It's like was she on set at the same time when they were filming Little Girl, you know?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know, I think the whole movie, uh Amelie has this look on her face of I I I it's so funny because she's got two she's saying two things. One is I'm very innocent and naive, but at the same time, I know more than the average uh person. You know, it it it it it's a little it it's it it's like a it's a little contradictory, um be but I I feel like she's smarter than the average bear, you know, but but she also has that that naive quality that you know not why not like not like dumb or anything, or it just kind of like thinking the best of things.
SPEAKER_02She wants to help. She wants to help the world, yeah. And she wants to help people. She feels like to me, she feels like an old soul.
SPEAKER_00That's a good way to that's a good way to look at it. Yeah, she yeah, she she loves people. I I I will say, um, did do you have a favorite moment in this movie? I'm just curious.
SPEAKER_02Oh gosh, I can't pick one.
SPEAKER_00I knew there's I knew you were gonna say that.
SPEAKER_02There's so many. There's so many because I can't even. It's like I enjoy every second of this film. Everything. I mean, it's just it's so much fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I love how I love how she gets back at the people that wrong her and others in the beginning when she's a kid, how she gets back at the the guy who tells her that she's been taking pictures all day and causing accidents.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02She goes when he's watching a game and unplugs the the TV, you know, at every great moment, you know, back at this guy, you know, and she does the same thing with Colin, you know, the the the grocer downstairs. How cool he is to his um his shopkeeper, you know, guy, uh Lucian. Um and what she does to him, you know, what she does to to uh the shopkeeper guy. Oh, when is his name? Um trying to remember. Colin. Colin down the John.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. There we go.
SPEAKER_02I love how she is with him and what she does to his apartment and how creative is that. And oh my gosh. It's just, it's it's just so much fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02My husband and I now will say things, you know, to, you know, in jokes to each other when we hear something, you know, Colin Young down the jung. Colin Young dead and gun. You know, or Lady D, Lady D. Ren Wall, Ren Wah. Those moments, those moments, you know, it just it's just it's so fun. It's so funny.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Let's let's talk about specifically. We haven't mentioned, you know, of course, the director is now uh the the director and the anomaly character are the two people that I can name. The other people, oh my gosh. Uh yeah, it's directed by Jean-Pierre Junet, and I think I got his name right, but uh uh and he uh directed a bunch of French films, uh, but uh but he directed one uh American film, and that was Alien Resurrection, which got pretty bad reviews and I I think pretty much universally is unliked. Um but um most of his other output is is it scores pretty well on IMBD and and um people have she's still directing, do you know? Uh I am uh actually trying to remember if he is still out there doing stuff. I don't think so, but I'm I may be wrong. Let's take a look at IMBD. And I'm gonna do a little song.
SPEAKER_02Just to st just to let you know, um there's a story, and you can look this up if you know if it is online. Um the the guy that did the music, Jan Pearson, um, the director wanted original music.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He wanted music that, you know, was very original and very different. And when they were starting to film the movie, one of the PAs went to the director and said, You've got to listen to this guy.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02He leaves his music with an accordion.
SPEAKER_01I love it. I love it.
SPEAKER_02You've got to hear that and a baby piano. You've got to hear this. You've got to listen to this guy. He listened to it when he was hooked. He the director went to Jan Pearson and said, I want to buy all your music and then I want you to create more stuff for me for this film.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And it and it and I I think I love that story. Yeah, it it it's really great. And I and I think that it's the um besides our our main character, I think this is really of the best aspect of the movie. Uh I mean I and I I think that that music is it it just oozes you know, Paris. And and uh, you know, it's that the the the the the looks and sounds of this movie are what uh have you ever been to Paris?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_00Okay. This is what we want Paris to be, like when we go. Now I've heard that it's not quite that way, but um but okay um but that's what we want it to be, right? I mean we Yeah, the the beauty and and you hear that accordion music, and yeah, that's I I I've I've I've told people before, um, if there's an accordion in it, I'm gonna probably want to listen to it, you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the score is finally available. I think it's on Spotify.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um the whole score, not just the Al Boli does, but uh, you know, uh the whole score, and it's just it's lovely to listen to.
SPEAKER_03It's so great to listen to.
SPEAKER_00You you said before we started recording, you said that the words changed my life. The the the music. You were talking about the music, and yeah, it's that good, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean that there's two songs by Al Boley in the film. Um uh Guilty, which is very pointed at a very pointed point point in the film, um, and Sweet and Lovely. And those are really the only two songs that have lyrics. And it's interesting that they chose the 1920 songs. You know, it gives this this film a very vintage vibe in, you know, the the diner that Amelie works in.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Now if you haven't if you haven't seen them, oh good.
SPEAKER_02This this film, that when I saw this film, this was right before I joined a vintage orchestra. Right before I joined a vintage band when I saw this film. Yeah. And and I had for years and years and years wanted to do the song Guilty. Not many women have done it. And I think um Annette Henshaw did it, and um one other female has done it, but Al Boli's Virgin. I was like, I want to do Al Boli's Virgin. I finally got somebody to write me a version for my band.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Last year. Last year, I finally got it written right the way that I wanted it. And I'm finally singing guilty.
SPEAKER_00That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. I I know there's a lot going to be a lot of new entries on Spotify for for for my account, so because it's just yeah, it's it this is it is a real popular film, you know.
SPEAKER_02There's there I'm always seeing clips on on Instagram.
SPEAKER_00Well, it and it did it well here.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if you know that. They tried to do a Broadway on the didn't it didn't apply because they didn't use the music. Why would you try to do a play version of this and not use his music? The whole reason for this film that it clicks is because of the music.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I no, I agree.
SPEAKER_02I just thought it was a mistake. I'm sorry, anybody that did the you know, the Broadway show and you know, that did well with it or thought that it was great or felt strongly, but I just I thought there there's somebody uh
SPEAKER_00There's somebody in a couple of weeks that's going to be grumbling. Uh we're who is this ginger poly person? We gotta we we we're going to do something here. Let's let's rate all the movies she's in, you know, with bad bad ratings. Um which by the way, your your your IMBD is not got got not complete. Uh you got like 20 credits, but you've been in more movies than that, right?
SPEAKER_02I've done movies where I've been cut or you know, I haven't had lines or whatever.
SPEAKER_00I've worked with a lot of people, but you know, uh it it have I I I always wonder, like I don't know if there's any way to quantify how how uh accurate IMBD actually is. And I feel like it's about 90% accurate, but I think it fumbles and stumbles its way through some things.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I I actually had a I had a really hard time getting them to complete my credits for Conan because I did a lot of episodes, and when I tried to add them, you know, they wouldn't approve them, you know, and the show wouldn't, or whoever does that, I don't know. I I tried to talk to the casting director and I was like, I can't have more credits, can you guys do it? And they're like, no, someone else does that. So I'm like, how so like five or six episodes when I did like twenty. Yeah, I think it had you down for I feel like it had you down for six or maybe Yeah, it's like um it's hard to it's hard to do, and somebody on the other end approves that stuff, so you know, unless you try to add stuff and it it just won't be approved.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and every once in a while there's you know if you watch a movie.
SPEAKER_02Unless you've done a big part and you're a big star, you know. And lately it's like I haven't done anything in a while because it's just I'm not you know I'm not as active and Hollywood is not what it was.
SPEAKER_00No, it's not. But you are a big star, Ginger. So I don't think so. You're a huge star. I mean I I don't know given I've never talked to anybody else that that met Sterling Holloway, so okay. Yeah, uh so yeah, and I never talked to anybody else's. Um, you know, but I I've been fortunate to talk to people that know know people, but which you're one of them. Um yeah, you met Jim Carrey too, and that that that's pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_02That was cool.
SPEAKER_00Um let's see, and the sound design in general, and let's just put aside the music, just the sound design. I wish I had seen this at the theater because there's so many moments where there's loud noises that that just you know come out at you. Um, you know, lots of jump cuts in the movie where it it just it changes like you hear a teapot, you know, or something like that, just you know, you know, all of a sudden, you know, and it just comes at you. And the the sa I'm I'm so wanting to see this at the theater, and I just wish that I had been able to to do that. I mean, you know, I uh you know we all have big TVs now and all that, but uh the nothing quite they'll screen this in a Lemmley Theater.
SPEAKER_02Sega I did see it a few years ago in the theater at a Lemmley. I don't know if they have Limley's out where you are. It's like an art house theater. So on occasion, you know, an art house theater will play it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And in the and you know, we mentioned you you mentioned art house. The funny thing about this movie is it feels um it this is another contradictory thing. It feels like an art house movie, but doesn't but it also feels like a popular movie. And it there's uh it it's kind of like they draw you in, and you know, and and it just it's just I have no idea how to describe this movie. And I'm sitting here um trying to figure out how not how you know what am I going what exactly am I going to say? It's beautiful, it sounds great, and I I I d the sound design in general um is just oh it's just outstanding. I I I I I the mo like the moment where where they are uh where the two people in the in the bathroom uh at the cafe are are getting it on, um and and everybody there knows what's going on, and then eventually it gets so loud that she turns on the um uh the the the the the the the what is it steamer. Yeah, yeah, the steamer steamer I couldn't think of the words like a kettle to yeah yeah yeah like you can it can't I can't tell you how many times my I've watched a movie with my mother and I didn't want her to hear something that was that was being said so I will cough or make any kind of noise, get up, and and and like I don't want my mom to hear what they're saying this moment. Yeah, because it's like I don't want to sit there and like I want you to see this movie, but I don't want you to hear this part.
SPEAKER_02So I said she set it up and then she's like, oh no, uh you know, I didn't expect that.
SPEAKER_00I don't know how I don't know if my mother is going to listen to this episode. Um, but I've told on myself so many times, and you know, and and she's the type that she hears it, hears me telling myself she's gonna say, I heard what you said, you know, but uh yeah, she's hilarious. But uh yeah, but I I've done that before I I just don't want her to to hear certain things.
SPEAKER_02We call we call the and the kids and watch movies with our parents and you know, as kids, and you know, when the sex part comes on, you're all embarrassed and like uh watching the sex with being with my parents and they're kissing other, yeah, you know, and it feels weird because you're with your parents.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Uh uh, yeah. We have more than one well, we really can't call that a sex scene because it's not, you know, we just hear stuff. But uh, but but we do have that moment in uh early in the film where uh she you know there you know and someone's on top of her and really enjoying himself, but she is just looks staring at us at the camera, and like she's laughing.
SPEAKER_02She's trying not to laugh.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she's kind of got a smirk on her face. Like, okay, well, I'm here, but you know, but I'm not really here. Um it's just there are lots of moments like that. This movie just bounces all over the place. Um with like we are right now. Uh you know, like we we you know it it's kind of like uh kind of like you know, do you ever eat jello and and you and the and you put it on your spoon or and then it it just kind of slides off the spoon and you're like you gotta dig back in again again and then it does it again, it wiggles its way out of it. Uh you know, that's that's what this movie's like. You can't ever get a you could never get a grip on this, you know. This you can, you know, or like I see it differently.
SPEAKER_02I see it kind of through her eyes, I guess.
SPEAKER_00I I know you identify with her.
SPEAKER_02Um I don't know if it's because I'm an actor and I think like in what I'm seeing and and how you know the person is uh how they are, you know, when you're a creative person who can't really she hasn't related to other people, you know, other kids. That's the whole thing of and and and you know, boyfriends in general or other people. Like the um the glass man, what's his name, her neighbor?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I always forget all the names in this movie.
SPEAKER_02Um uh do fiel, I don't know how to say his name, um, that lives next door. She says she can't relate to other people, and he's drawing the room law with the girl with the glass, and he's like, she says, you know, she can't relate to other people. And he's talking about her anomaly because she didn't have any playmates growing up, she didn't have any friends, she has a hard time relating to people. That that that thing with that that boyfriend and that guy and her having sex, she's just like she's she doesn't have any connection with him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02She knows this is what people do, but she's just like, this isn't working for me. Yeah. This is not this is not me. This is not, I don't have a connection with this person. This is just silly. Why am I here? Why am I doing this?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, it it it yeah, and and even in the beginning of the movie, sh we see her. Well, with this has happened in the beginning, but also we we talked uh we brushed upon the the heart condition, the supposed heart condition, which of course she didn't really have a heart condition, and then this is kind of something that's that caused her at all to probably always think I'm not like everybody else. Uh there's something um I I d did she feel like something was missing? Uh is that or do you think she's like chasing after like on like on a quest for um what she is or who she is or what she needs to find or I think so.
SPEAKER_02I think so, and she's you know, feeling sorry for herself. You know, and she's watching the TV at several points. This happens in the movie where she's she's watching the TV, but she's putting something else in what's actually happening on the TV, and she's feeling sorry for herself.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um because she's not sure where she fits in, she's not sure um you know, where what she's supposed to do with her life, you know, and she feels bad for her dad because he's still mourning her mother. And uh you know, she's like, What am I supposed to do? And then um the news shows Princess Diana dying. And that's that's what changes everything. You know, because the the the ball falls off the the the cologne and rolls and finds the hidden treasure in the wall. And she's she says, Well, I'm gonna try to be a good a good do-gooder and I'm going to return this to this guy. And if he's impressed, then I'll become a regular do-gooder. Regular do-gooder, yeah. If not, and if not, then so what? You know, so so that's kind of literally puts the ball rolling. Yeah. Um, into like what she feels like she could do to to make changes, you know, with the blind man, like the to helping the blind man across the street and the light that opens up like he's just his eyes have just been opened. You know, it's it's amazing, like once she decides to make that change and to help people and to help that man, you know, return that that treasure box it sets this tone of like not only her her wanting to help people, but also learning who she is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, it it's um it it's a it it really is is so powerful and and lovely and and sweet and and uh bittersweet at times. Um, you know, and but but yeah, I I I just see her on this quest um you know to almost you know find her her purpose. And um and I I just And and to find her person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's part of it too. Yeah, that's that's that's part of it.
SPEAKER_02And and we And it kind of magically happens, which is really cool.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I think I think honestly, my my favorite part of the movie is when when she sees the the the guy in the cafe and she like predicts everything that's going to happen in the next minute, and everything happens exactly the way she said it. And and I I I love that. I don't know, yeah. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_02She's she's just like now she's embarrassed because she thinks he doesn't like her. And he walks out and she literally turns to water. That's an amazing moment.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what is that exactly? It's crazy.
SPEAKER_02It's her falling apart.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's her just like, I thought this is what I wanted and this is how it was going to turn out, and now I feel like he's he doesn't like me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Now he's like he's almost laughing at her. She feels like he's this is you, right? Because he first sees the this pretty girl come in and sit down with another guy. You know. And he thought maybe that was gonna be her and it's this prettier girl, and she sees that. You know, and then she's like, Okay, he's gonna he's gonna put down the spoon, he's gonna dip his finger in the sugar, he's gonna turn around and talk to me. Uh-huh. She does. And and he's like, Is this you? Yeah. And he's kind of laughing. You know, is this you?
SPEAKER_00She's like, Yeah, she like falls apart.
SPEAKER_02And he's kind of it's almost like he's gonna laugh, and she doesn't have enough experience with people, uh-huh, you know, especially not like this. And she feels like, oh no. He doesn't like me. And that's and she falls apart and turns to water when he walks out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's really it's really powerful, it's insane. I love it. Uh um, and and I also love the part where the the the yeah, this is the other surreal part, which the whole movie's kind of surreal, but but the other very surreal part is when the when those two pictures with with animals are talking to each other. And I won't I love that. I love, love, love that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, those moments are so fun, you know, and then her lamp, you know, the big the pig lamp. Is she in love?
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's kind of cartoony, you know, and then it's the same thing with the the pictures in the album.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, the the the two men, you know, with the with the caps on their heads and the talking to each other to hit to Nino, you know, the boy. Yeah. You know, hey, you know, beautiful. She's beautiful. Now she's pretty. Now she's just arguing back and forth. What a cool I thought that was just such a cool thing, you know. It's it's more it's cooler than like a picture-in-picture, like you're making these all these these photos of the same guy talk to each other, you know. It's just very creative.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. No, it it's um it it is. I I I I I love it. I I I love the idea. I wonder who came up with the idea. Um, you know, when when in movies are made, it's it's all it it it's always kind of like a mystery. Uh who came up with that part, with that gag? Uh yeah, that was such and such. And then you hear talk to others the other person, they're like, no, that was somebody else. They they they sometimes uh will say they did it and they didn't really do it, and sometimes they say that was somebody else's idea, but they're the ones that really did it. And and uh and it because I I think that's the way it is with with almost every movie made, um, you know, uh unless you're um somebody that just writes everything and and does everything. Um but uh you know I I just think it's fascinating to hear stories like that. Um you'll never really quite hear the truth. And and what is the truth 25 years later? Uh uh. Yeah, you know, I think we have told ourselves this is what happened, and maybe it wasn't really what happened, you know.
SPEAKER_02Uh in a creative in a creative film, a creative team, and you know, a team of people, you know, as story writers and you know, um putting the scene together and you know, the it's the whole team.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, and sometimes somebody says, Hey, can we try this? You know, and a director who's open to ideas, you know, and obviously he was because he listened to his PA about the music. So it could have been a team effort, you know, and that's it could be a really good team. It could have been his regular team of people that he used all the time, like um, you know, other directors do. Use the same group of people all the time for every film. Yeah. You know, I mean, I don't know that that's what he did, but you know, it could have just been a really good team, you know. Um the the other movie that that a lot of these actors are in, um, City of Lost Children. Same kind of thing. It's very creative like this. Get a chance to watch that. Um it's it's similar, you know, just creative. The way that they the choices they make, you know, in the story of ways to do things and ways to tell the story. It's just very creative. And, you know, it could be the team. It could be that it's just a great group of people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I think sometimes peep someone comes up with an idea and then it gets changed five times and and and they think, well, that's no longer my idea. It's the other person's idea. But you know, I I you know, yeah. I I think that happens a lot. You know, I think it happens a lot.
SPEAKER_02If it may if it all makes the movie good, then you know, that's what's important.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02What what's best for the movie?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like you know, I I uh I I I I know um I'm gonna tell on my mom this time. Not telling on myself, I'm telling my mom. Like there's been times where she she had something that she w wanted to do, and then and then we would adopt as a family uh uh like a we would format a plan to to adopt part of what she wanted to do, and then when she found out the full plan wasn't going to happen, she will just say, Well, well, I don't know, I'm not the one in charge here, you know. And uh like you know, just completely give up credit of her idea uh because she felt slighted that part of the plan didn't is wasn't going to come through. Sorry, mom, I just told on you this time. Um I've told on myself plenty of times. Um, but do you know anything about the casting? Oh we we uh we've talked for 30 minutes and we haven't mentioned Audrey's name. Uh you know, Audrey is it Tatu? Tatu?
SPEAKER_02I thought it was Tat Tattoo Tattoo, almost like tattoo, but I think it's a tattoo.
SPEAKER_00Tatu, yeah. I think it's Tatu. I think it might be wrong.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think it's actually my favorite film of hers. I did see some other films of hers that I just wasn't it wasn't I wasn't a fan of, and I'm not sure what she did before Amelie. Um I believe she was 22 or 22.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she was young, yeah.
SPEAKER_02When she got the part, and there is a video that um is on Instagram. Um it could be I don't think it is on the DVD extras, because I've watched that and I don't think it's on there, but there is a video that came out um her casting, you know, with her audition. You know, when when she auditioned in person, and I think I sent that to you. Um she's auditioning for the part, you know, and you can kind of see uh her reading some of the scenes in the camera's very close, and it's the reaction on her face, you know, like when she calls the the sex shop, you know.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And and her reactions to what she's hearing, you know, even though you don't hear on the other side, you know what the thing, you know, her reaction's just like, uh, you know, yeah, Jesus. It it's just so good. It's just so good. She's just so cute. Um so I can see, you know, from that audition, you know, she got the part. I mean, it's it's it's great.
SPEAKER_00Well, do you know if there were other actors as though we're were good audition for this?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. Every once in a while you have someone that just comes in and they're like perfect, and this is what we want. You know, every once in a really long while you they build movies around uh like we want to get this person and and and then they will make a movie around that that character and uh because without that actor, you know, that is in it, they do that, you know, they they you know uh j uh any movie John Wayne was in that didn't wasn't directed by John Ford was like that, you know, they would just say, Oh, let's just have and they make another John Wayne movie. And John Ford would like actually worry about the movie, but the other directors not as much. They would just like, oh okay, let's just do this and this and this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know. I don't think that was the case here. Um, I'm not sure. I mean, I don't know for sure, but just by the way the audition was, you know, she's kind of standing there with her arms around her back and you know. They're like, okay, you can hear her say, like, turn around, turn a circle, and she she turns around and then she does a little cursey, you know, like this is me, you know. And you know, it's so it seems it feels like she was a pre-cast.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02She probably it does feel like a real audition. Yeah. At least it seems like it in that video, that particular video.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's pretty great. Um the I yeah, that that that look the the listeners can't see the look on your face. That was funny. Um but I but I got I I enjoyed it. It was funny. Um But she is just so she look she looks so relaxed doing this role. She looks like she was born to play it. Absolutely. And you yourself, um, how much do you identify with the character? I'm just curious. Putting you on the spot here.
SPEAKER_02I feel like I feel like uh Amelie's a lot more, she's a lot smarter, more creative than I was at that age or than I am, you know.
SPEAKER_00Um You're pretty smart creative.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, in this way, like how she would think up to do these things.
SPEAKER_00She's very clever.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. There there are there are the way that she gets the box back to the man, you know, um the the you know, the the kid that lost it in the in the 50s, and the way that she all the work she goes to to to try to find him, you know, and then she thinks that she walks into the lost place and they're carrying a casket down the stairs and she thinks, oh, I failed, you know, he's dead. I just missed him. Her neighbor tells her, No, you're spelling his name wrong. Um, you know, you're spelling his name wrong, it's you know, because obviously he was probably there when he was a kid, you know, he's an old, old man. Um but um what she goes to what she goes through to try to get his box back. And then when she does is sitting next to him in that in that bar or the cafe or something, you know, he's just kind of spilling his heart and saying, I my daughter has a kid and I I've got to I need to pay her a visit before I'm in a box too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And and she just she'll her mind really fast and all the jokes on it, and she's just like, oh my gosh. I think she's a little taken, but it gets her hooked. You know, it gets her hooked enough to to want to to want to do more. And the way that she the way that she gets, you know, that scene where um where she follows Nino and he drops the book and she picks it up. So from the the man with the red shoes running up those stairs, this is, you know, and then um him jumping in the car, Nino jumping on the bike, which is right by the guy's car. That's funny. And then and then her running after him and him dropping the book and her picking it up. And Pierre watching this, he goes, Every time I see this, every time I see this, I'm just like, How did they do this? That's all one shot. That is there's not a cut in that shot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's all one shot. I'm thinking, how many times do they have to do that? Hopefully, not a lot. That's all one shot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, um like um similarities. I just I think she's much more creative than I am, but it's just um I like the I like the word clever for her. But I I I love it. I love how creative she is, and I think it sparks creativity in in the watcher.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02You know? And it's like, gosh, could I do something like that? You know, you think, gosh, you know, I was around her age when when I saw the film. Um and I I thought, could I do something like you know, uh would that work out, you know? And I guess it's about taking chances.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, it it it it it it it is about that. And I I I I just yeah, you have to do, you know, in order to get something that you want, you you you have to use it yourself. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you have to go out there and get it.
SPEAKER_02And you if you don't take this chance you know, you're gonna end up very regretful.
SPEAKER_00No, it and I I think those are I think uh those are all all all true things about Emily. And I I I I have to say, Ginger, yeah, you you hit a home run with this this because I I I uh I I I was never skeptical about it, um, but I I I it just wasn't on your radar. It wasn't on my radar, and I know I had seen the pick the movie poster, um, you know, with her, you know, pretty eyes and smiling face, but I didn't um I I never watched it. And um and I but I am I I can say honestly that I'm I I it was worth the wait because I I thought it was I thought it was I thought it was uh I thought it was brilliant. And there's so many things about this movie that are brilliant.
SPEAKER_02It's like Sideways. I watch it every year.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, uh yeah. I know. I I I that's the one that I I probably uh when I when I did an episode on Sideways, um I had I was so over prepared for that. Um I I overwhelmed.
SPEAKER_02It's similar. It's it's a very creative, independent film. Yeah, you know, and it it's it's it's not really something you can explain to somebody. You're just like, you know what? It's not just about a wine trip, you know, you've gotta watch it. It's not just about this this creative gal, you know, with with good mu music and and a pretty movie. You have to watch it.
SPEAKER_00It's actually got a similar theme in a sense. Um, you know, to uh you know, uh sideways uh in that he Miles, our main character in that movie, didn't didn't want him, didn't want to, which is by the way, also an art house movie that's also a popular movie. Um and the the um um the our character Miles had to get outside of his own box. And and and you know was his comfort zone, yeah. Yeah, and that was something that was very difficult for him. And um and the and and we have Amelie in this movie doing the same thing.
SPEAKER_02Like and both of your your lead characters grow and learn. And that's always fun because you're you're you're right along with them, you know, and it's inspiring. Both his ways are inspiring, you know. It's like, you know, this you you had to you had to grow and change in this film, you know, you had to its character grew and changed and made a difference.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, I I uh see.
SPEAKER_02They better themselves, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00I'm just scanning my notes here, and uh, we have hit on a lot of a lot of lot of things about this that that uh uh you know I actually I need to take take back what I said. I I I kind of actually think the pictures talking to each other is my favorite part, but I'm not sure. I'm really not sure.
SPEAKER_02That is fun. I think they're both fun.
SPEAKER_00Oh, but I I do want to mention the the narration. I I touched on it earlier. The beginning of the movie, you hear the the narrator, and he sounds like he's talking 90 miles a minute to us because he's speaking French. Um but uh but uh but what I like about the narration is that it's not throughout the film. It actually is just like, hey, we're gonna drop you into this. And and when you when we when we when we drop you, you're gonna understand what's what's happening. And and so we had to kind of have that to to know exactly what we were dealing with, and that way it quickly it you know explained uh what happened. Mo uh most movies there are a lot of movies that have narration at the beginning, but most movies really don't. Um and and so oftentimes it's just kind of annoying um narration. But here it works so well because like I said, we're we're dropping you into this real place, but also kind of surreal place, you know, and but so we want to let you know what what you're dealing with, and we see her we see her uh being conceived and being born and and it's just yeah, um, and we see how she's treated as a child, and we get over that like in three minutes, and we're on to the story of Amelie as an adult.
SPEAKER_02It's it's interesting too how you know they introduce her first and they introduce her parents. Every time they introduce a new character, they say what the character's likes and dislikes are.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, like the mom likes emptying her purse evacuating.
SPEAKER_00Yes, it doesn't do that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Likes to empty his toolbox, and everything, and they're saying mom and dad have a lot in common, is what they're saying.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Every time that they introduce a new character, they tell you their likes and dislikes. You know, every single character that has something to do with Amelie and her life and this this journey we're taking you on, we're gonna tell you what they like and what they don't like. Yeah, we're seeing we're the cat. Even the cat, it's in the corner, it would tell you what the cat likes and like. It likes hearing the porcelain bowl put down and it likes hearing kids' stories.
SPEAKER_00This is one, yeah, yeah. This is one of those few films that we m most films we know who the protagonist is, and that's pretty obvious. But this is one of those where we never ever see it from another's perspective. You know, we we don't ever we don't ever see anything other than Amelie's perspective and during this whole entire thing. You know, um all the characters in it are are basically um not hollow is not the right word. Um yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And and we we know we know certain characteristics about the people, but we we do not do a deep dive at all into their heads. And why all we know is is what Amelie thinks of of what they are.
SPEAKER_02And it's like, uh, you know and her dra her daydreams. Yeah. Um and and the you know, even even in the she's watching TV and you can notice the the characters of her and Nino and other people in her life that she's imagining you know, that are on the screen in black and white, you know. Or, you know, even in near the end where she's she's making the palm cake and she's wondering if, you know, she made a mistake and her daydream, you know. Yeah, her daydreaming is you know, Mr. Cohen Young um is actually the helper and Lucy or Lucy Lucy is is the boss and he's telling him what to do, you know, and this is all in her fantasy and her like wishing things were different.
SPEAKER_00No, I it it it's everything about this is uh there's a purpose in in what they're doing, um and you know, on on on the screen. Uh this movie made 174 million dollars. It was a $10 million budget, you know. Yeah, $10 million budget. And and I I think um, I mean, obviously this is 25 years ago, and and money was a little different, but $10 million is is still pretty small, um, you know, for especially for $174 million.
SPEAKER_02And it was just in France, so you know, it's it feels like kind of a small town. You know, the more you watch it, the more you'll see the same people coming and going, you know, even on the street.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, when she's on the in the train station, you know, she sees the blind man again. You know, there's different people that come and go around her that are, you know, there's a young woman who comes into the cafe to buy cigarettes, you know, and the guy at the counter has trouble helping her and she says, forget it. She walks back out. You see her later when Nino is when she sends Nino on the the scavenger hunt, you know, you see her with another guy, you see her with a man. I'm like, oh yeah, that's a cigarette girl. You know, I watched it a few nights ago, and I that was the first time I saw that. Every time you see it, there'll be something different.
SPEAKER_00That's what I was gonna say. I I I've only seen it twice, but I guarantee you you'll see something different every time. You know, if you look, I I this is just one of those kind of movies. Um anything else you want to say about Amelie?
SPEAKER_02And and we could go on five for hours, so I make this extra extra long. Um, I just if you have not seen this film, I highly recommend it. And you're gonna want to watch it more than once. I mean, do you want to see this again?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02After our conversation, I'm hoping that because of our conversation, people will want to see this film if they haven't seen it, or maybe it'll inspire them to see it again, or maybe it'll inspire creativity.
SPEAKER_00No, that's a good idea. You know, and I think people should do it the way you told me to do it, which is the way I did it, which w you know, watch it twice, you know, and what watch it the first time, and then the second time.
SPEAKER_02Now did that happen for you? Yeah, yeah, a lot. You saw it first, was it in your head?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02You keep thinking about it, and then you go back in a couple days and watch it again and you see different things.
SPEAKER_00I did it on consecutive days, to be honest. But but it it it clicked, and you know, it it really clicked. Uh I I watched it and I'm like, this is just fantastic. Um but when I saw it the second time, I knew it was fantastic, and and so I could just sit there and enjoy it rather than worrying about taking notes and and things like that. Um it's it's just it's just a fabulous experience to watch it. And I I would suggest for people listening to turn off the lights and enjoy the beautiful color uh in this. It says this movie has one of the best color schemes uh just imaginable. It just it and you described what they did earlier with the film. Um that's probably the bulk of the money.
SPEAKER_02Colors mean something, you know, like the man with the red shoes. They're trying to figure out who he is. Yeah. And omalie, they put it, they dress her in red and they dress her in green. You know, the the c the clothing the clothing choice for everybody is very specific.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_02For all the characters, you know, they've got her in that um like a long red sweater with pockets, and when she takes the key, you see it glowing in the pocket, you know, so then you can see that she's got his key. Um, you know, it is yeah, the color is is very specific and very um very much a choice.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, before I started talking to you today, uh I w I watched a movie while I was eating my dinner, and I was very much unimpressed with a movie that had so much potential. Um, and uh and and I commented on Letterbox about the movie. I said that it felt like they were just walking, I felt like the director was just taking a a check, and there was so much potential. But this movie feels like it was hugged and caressed and petted and and fed and and and I I I think that you know this movie was allowed to grow, um, and the idea, the concept uh was allowed to grow, and and and I don't know this is what was happening, but I I have the feeling that it was a progressive thing, and not in an unorganized way, where people uh are doing things on the fly, so to speak, but in a way, in a creative sense where uh they were filming things and and the director clearly uh I I I'm only saying this, I'm stepping out in the way it feels to me is that the decisions were made that made this movie better, and they were made during the filming. And because sometimes when you're when you're doing anything, um uh you you sometimes can look and say, Oh, wait a minute. It'd be better if I turned this way or turned that way, or uh or if I aim just a little bit more toward the right. Um those are types of things that sometimes you decide uh at the uh you know during the during the the process.
SPEAKER_02Right. And sometimes and I've seen directors do this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um sometimes I'm working with kids and sometimes just working where they just tell the actor okay, after you say your line, just sit there. Just just just pause. Don't don't say anything, don't do anything, don't move. Just after you say the line, just just stay until I say cut.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02And um the moment where um in the cafe where Amelie talks to the tobacconist lady and says to her, Sit in his seat, sit here. What do you see? My cigarette counter, what's missing? I don't know. I don't know. I don't see it. Try harder. I don't know. Amelie gets up and walks off, the camera backs out, and you see her still still sitting there, and there's a m there's a beep and a beep and a beep. She's just like uh kind of shakes her head. And it's perfect.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02She just did it, probably because he's just like just stay until I say cut.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh. Yeah. He saw the way it looked, and yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it was just that extra beep beep and it's like pauses can be really valuable.
SPEAKER_02You know, and I've seen directors do that with kids, like when I worked with Richard Donner on um on Radio Flyer.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02You know, and it's also the way he worked with the kids on goodies. You know, he tells you the story, and then now he wants you to tell the other kids the story, you know, or or do this, do it this way. And he doesn't tell them why, they just just do this. And they do it and it's like, wait till I cut. And they take that extra V or they do that extra thing, and the kid does it on his own.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02That just happens.
SPEAKER_00That's pretty that's pretty wild.
SPEAKER_02They don't overexplain people that are good directors, they don't overexplain, they know what they need to get, and they're just like just stay, just stay, just do this without over explaining it to them. Because if you over-explain something to an actor, you can see they're thinking too much.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, I I I I I think I know what you mean. I think I know what you mean. And I and I know you mentioned pauses a minute ago, and which pauses can be so powerful sometimes. And if you just uh you know, if you just simply let things sink in while on the other side and and uh see see what happens. Oh my goodness. Yeah, we probably could keep talking about I could tell, Ginger, you you you you're you you're you're still bubbling, you know, and uh you're I love this channel. Uh I can talk about this so far out. It's special and and I have to thank you for uh pointing pointing me in that direction. And uh I uh there there have been quite a few revelations for me uh over the last uh and you know, I've been doing this podcast for eight years.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_00Eight years and uh doing an episode a week and uh Um, you know, there have been a lot of lot of uh you know, I I a lot of movies that uh I watch that I, you know, in 1995 when it came out, I I wouldn't have wanted to see it, but then I look at it 30 years later, I'm going, it looks pretty good. You know, I I think I'm gonna watch it. And I sit there. Like like period dramas are the ones that that never appealed to me and and now like I don't know, they're pretty great, you know. So um, you know, even the even the ones that aren't great are still actually good to watch just for the costumes, if nothing else.
SPEAKER_02What genre would you put this film in?
SPEAKER_00I I don't know. I don't know. Um that's a great question. One I was unprepared for, holy.
SPEAKER_03I'm sorry. Um I can't, it's not a comedy, it's not it is not something you can again.
SPEAKER_00It's like the jello thing. You can't wrap your hands around this, you can't just stick your spoon in there and have it stay on your spoon, it will jump out of your spoon. Um it's absolutely insane. It's definitely not a drama, but it's definitely not a straight comedy. Um, and it's not fantasy, even though there are some fantastical things in it. Right. Um and yeah, I guess it's just um I you could call I mean like again, it's probably like the Wes Anderson stuff. I think you whatever you call Wes Anderson movies is what you'd call this. But it's better than than uh you know it this is better than all the Wes Anderson movies I've seen.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, and I like Wes Anderson. You you what's that?
SPEAKER_02Some of the I like Wes Anderson. I mean some some more than others.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, I I agree with you there. Some more than others. But this is better than all of his stuff in my and that I've seen. Uh there are about three movies with him I have not seen.
SPEAKER_02Um, but uh, you know, i it's uh I like the vintage vibe of a lot of his films. I really liked the Budapest Hotel just because of the believe it or not, that's one of them I haven't seen.
SPEAKER_00Believe it or not.
unknownOh gosh.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, believe it or not, that's one of them I haven't seen. That's one of my favorites of this. That's one of the three, I think, that I haven't seen. I haven't I actually haven't seen his last two that came out. And that and that's part of just uh a time issue thing, you know. But um, you know, and and my my son makes fun of me all the time. He says, Yeah, but you know, I don't want to say the names of the movies right here, but uh while we're recording, but but he'll say, Well, you have time to watch such and such. Um, it's like, yeah, but then it's white noise. I don't actually have to pay really close attention. And and he's like, Okay, and I I guess I get that, you know, because like before before you and I started talking, I watched a movie that I knew wasn't great, and I knew I didn't have to concentrate heavily on it, and I was more worried about the podcast, and and and I was brushing up on some notes, and uh you know, I you know I would have watched uh the movie a third time, but it was a 48-hour rental. So, you know, okay. I wish I would have bought the thing. I wish I would have bought it. I really do because I I because otherwise, um, you know, what I've been guilty of multiple times is watch is getting excited about a movie after I recorded a podcast episode on it. I just watched it twice. Guess what? I watched it a third time. I've been guilty of that so many times. And it's only after conversations like this that are so fun, and you know, I I it just it's just sometimes you just can't get enough of a movie.
SPEAKER_02Right. Yeah, yeah. Every time I see it, I see something new, and I've watched it hundreds of times. Yeah, if it ever happens to me on TV, I'm glue to it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um but um do you have a DVD player?
SPEAKER_00Yes, I do.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I highly recommend you.
SPEAKER_00I will, I I I I I I think I will, and I'll watch those those uh there's some fun extras on it. Extras, yeah. And that's exciting. I I I love this movie, Ginger. And and I and I love having you on the podcast. Every time you come on here, you're so fun. You interject. Thank you. Uh so uh so much excitement. And and it would be it's so much better to talk about a movie like Amelie with somebody with a female perspective um than it is for me to drone on you know all by myself.
SPEAKER_02It's fun, it is fun, and thank you so much for having me. Thank you for for finally watching this film and talk about it all like, oh, we gotta do Oli. I gotta do Oli. It's one of my favorite films ever.