Scott Stallings is a PGA Tour golfer who stepped off the green and ran right into the Boston Marathon - with no experience. In this episode of the Mental Training Lab, I’m joined by Scott and performance expert Steve Magness to explore this athletic and psychological journey.

Inspired by Steve’s groundbreaking book Do Hard Things, Scott stepped completely outside his comfort zone, confronting challenges that tested his resilience, self-awareness, and mental adaptability. We hear what Scott learned about balancing response and reaction under pressure, how embracing vulnerability unlocked new insights, and why sometimes the most valuable performance lessons come from being willing to feel completely lost.

This episode challenges traditional ideas about mental toughness, performance, and embraces the power of a beginner’s mindset. If you’re looking to push your limits or redefine what you’re capable of—whether in sports, business, or everyday life—this conversation is packed with evidence-based insights and relatable wisdom to help you thrive.

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